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BEST OF 2015 INNOVATION LEADER
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What Manulife’s senior tech execs want from new LOFT initiative 13
United Airlines IT leader describes the RAMP scorecard for evaluating ideas 19
Thanks for your help in puTTing TogeTher This collecTion of our Top ar-
Ticles from 2015.
We looked at our most-read stories from InnovationLeader.com, as well as our most-clicked and shared
material on social media. So rather than these pieces being “Editor’s Picks,” they’re your picks.
What didn’t we include? There were several pieces high on the list that also
appeared in the Fall 2015 issue of Innovation Leader magazine, so we left
those out (but you can see them below, and read them online.) We also didn’t
include, for reasons of length, the three research reports we published in 2015:
If you’d like to download the slide presentations you see excerpted here,
most are available in the Resources area of our site (click “Downloadable Documents,” and look for the
company name.) As always, we love hearing your thoughts on topics and companies we should we writing
about. And I hope we’ll see you at one of our 2016 events (the next is in Silicon Valley, March 30 & 31st) or
talk with you on one of our conference calls.
Scott Kirsner
Editor & Co-Founder
editor@innovationleader.com
Here are the top stories from 2015 that appeared in our magazine; you can find all of these online as well.
And of course, the MIT Media Lab has always been for us a So stuff that comes out of the Future Lab doesn’t have
place to come and get inspired, and we have other collabo- to stay on the market forever? It can last for just three or
rators like the Media Lab. four years, without being seen as a failure?
Yes. For us, creativity is taking something you know and “Yeah, but that’s innovation in a company that does physi-
reconfiguring it. [Our business] is all based on the brick… cal products.” But if you think about the Google search en-
but in new iterations. We are very structured about saying, gine, that is the combination of two well-known ideas — the
search engine, and the idea of how do you index scientific
journals [to see how many people cite a particular article.]
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When Dell acquired Perot Systems in 2009, I was people working on them. It’s meant to be a true, dynam-
CTO of Perot. What we were doing was exploring ic, flat, on-demand type of organization structure.” The
what the world would want, and what technologies group’s mission, Stikeleather says, is to “enable, facilitate,
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would enable that. Dell came up with the title of Chief In- and accelerate” innovation within Dell Services.
novation Officer to let us continue doing what we were do- “If you think about how companies have made their
ing. So I am in the Dell Services organization, and I report money — other than the initial innovation – like Edison cre-
to the CTO of Dell Services.” ating the light bulb — almost all companies have made their
“Our team is small and virtual. But at any given time, money by achieving scale, and driving efficiency and pro-
I’m running projects that can have up to several thousand ductivity. They haven’t really made money by innovating.”
Stikeleather says his team manages a portfolio of proj- Many companies look at truly innovative ideas and see them
ects similar to the way a venture capitalist does. “I’m not as small potatoes — because everything is small at first. “It
responsible to my boss for the success or failure of one drives me to distraction. You look at something and say, ‘That’s
thing,” he says. “It’s about the whole portfolio.” a million-dollar business.’ But what is it going to be five or ten
“Here’s how you could describe almost everything that years from now — and do you want to be playing catch-up?”
goes on in business today: a problem occurs, you sense it, “Most companies don’t really want innovation. They
you categorize it, and then you find the best practice for want continuous improvement in what they’re already
addressing it. People into systems theory would call those doing.” Stikeleather’s slide below shows that that is what
simple systems. But you look at the economy today, and it’s they tend to get when they don’t make a conscious effort to
a complicated environment. There are lots of unknown un- design and execute an innovation plan.
knowns. You don’t know what you don’t know. That’s where “Executives get to where they are because they were
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divergent thinking comes in. You have to probe, try things, successful at doing what the company does. But innovation
and test. You probe and then you look at the results, and is doing something different. Not only is that a threat to the
take action based on that.” But most business environments company’s current business and current margins, but it’s
encourage and reward convergent thinking, consensus, also a threat to the executives and their positions and their
and analysis much more than they do divergent thinking. power.”
“Very few companies are doing organic innovation. they haven’t done before. That is far better than incentives.”
They’re spending all their time watching, and then acquir- By offering innovation training to sales teams at Dell
ing startup companies, which is in-organic.” Services, Stikeleather says he has seen employees who
“My role at Dell is to be an enabler, a facilitator, an ac- have been through the program “closing more deals at
celerator of innovation. I help other people become inno- higher margins.” Customers, he says, “don’t want to be
vative. And I do that through training and education and sold to anymore. They want to insight, points of view,
through our foresight work — creating future scenarios and thought leadership. They want to brainstorm — they don’t
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trying to provide divergent thinking.” want you coming in and saying, ‘I have the solution to your
Dangling incentives for innovative ideas or behaviors problem.’” The second slide above shares the principles of
doesn’t work — and Stikeleather says that plenty of behav- his training program; “Salesmakers” is a Dell term that
ioral research backs that up. What does work? “Get out of encompasses account executives, sales engineers, and
people’s way, give them autonomy, give them an opportunity others involved in the customer selling process.
In providing facilitation to teams within Dell Services, the press,” he says. Eventually, “it’s their idea because
“we’re internal consultants. I can go in an be [a team’s] they’re hearing about it from their teams, customers, and
advocate with upper management or with customers. And the press.”
when we talk about acceleration, I have a certain amount of Stikeleather agrees with Clay Christensen that various
discretionary funding to get things going.” ratios used as measures — like Internal Rate of Return and
Stikeleather talks about a “three-way pincer process” Return on Net Assets — can undermine a company’s inno-
to get executives bought in to challenging new ideas or vation engine.
disruptive business models. “They need to hear it from Below, Stikeleather shares a few of the trends and sce-
their teams, the customers, and reading about it in narios his group is monitoring and exploring. IL
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When Home Depot opened a new innovation center on the campus of Georgia Tech in January, it had
three objectives: connect with engineering students who might eventually consider joining the com-
pany; explore technologies with the potential to impact retail; and host brainstorming sessions with
employees from throughout the business.
We spoke to the executive who oversees the new Home Depot Technology Center, Martin Key, about
what the $82 billion retailer is doing in the new lab, and why it chose the Tech Square complex, which
houses startups as well as other large companies like AT&T, ThyssenKrupp, and Coca-Cola Enterpris-
es. Key is based at the new center and he works within Home Depot’s IT organization, reporting to Chief
Architect Barbara Sanders.
Campus connections integrated we are with other businesses the better.” Key
also says he is looking forward to taking part in an Innova-
A big part of the lab’s location and partnership strategy with tion Council, recently created by Georgia Tech President
the university is to tap into Georgia Tech’s co-op program, George Peterson, which will involve monthly or bimonthly
where students gain work experience to complement their
education. A select group of 25 students works alongside
Home Depot associates at the lab, testing and developing
new technologies. And while not all of the students may be
interested in long-term careers with Home Depot, Key ad-
mits, the program seeks to establish a pipeline for talent.
“From my perspective, part of my role is actively going
out on campus and doing recruiting, trying to integrate as
much as I can with the campus, the different colleges, dif-
ferent majors, different professors and potentially the dif-
ferent student groups … to find the right people and solve
the needs we’re looking to solve,” explains Key.
Proximity to other Fortune 500 companies has its ben-
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allow the lab to prove its value. term projects that could pay off big in the future with
small, quick-hit projects that allow the lab “to go prove
our value,” he says. “The challenge is making sure to cre-
ate the right balance, and not letting the center become
Governance and impact more of a staff augmentation location,” Key says, becom-
ing a consultancy for the business units’ near-term needs.
When it comes to prioritizing projects and ideas that come “Obviously, some of the larger projects deal with more fu-
out of the Technology Center, “that’s where we use the ex- ture-looking technologies, and it takes longer to get that
ecutive steering committee within our group of IT leaders ROI out of a facility like this.” IL
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How the team came together Why put the team in Manulife Investment division,
as opposed to corporate? “The divisions have a budget,”
In June 2014, Blandizzi, who is the chief information of- Moghimi explains. And the executives who oversee LOFT
ficer for Manulife’s Investment Division and Group Func- are both CIOs, of the Investment division and of the entire
tions, held a town hall meeting on creating systems that company. “We’re very much a technology-centric group
could enhance the company’s ability to innovate. By No- to start, but we’re thinking about how we reach the rest of
vember, Blandizzi had approval to begin building a team, the organization through our programs,” says Moghimi.
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and Moghimi, who had previously been working in deriva- “We’re going to offer hackathons, workshops on design
tives strategy, came on board. thinking and lean startup, and eventually, we may have an
Initially, LOFT has been sourcing ideas for projects Small teams within LOFT are intended to filter ideas
from senior executives, Moghimi says, “to make sure our and evaluate technologies, Bean says, “helping to deter-
work is aligned with leadership’s interest and strategy in- mine which ones we should latch on to, in a cheap fashion
tent.” But the group has also been holding “focus sessions” by using lean startup, design thinking, and triz method-
with each of the company’s three business units to explore ologies.” Bean says LOFT will have the ability to execute
their needs. Innovation fellows from the LOFT and cham- projects and “get them to a point of showing something
pions in each business unit help set up those sessions. that can stand up. If it’s valuable, and if everyone agrees,
Bean says that the people most eager to participate in then we begin to think about how to scale,” with help from
LOFT’s initiatives are in the tech-centric 19-35 age range, other parts of the organization.
and also early career executives in their mid-30s and early Among the topic areas they are exploring, Moghimi
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40s. “Those are people who really want to make a name says, are machine learning, cognitive computing, accel-
for themselves, and they have the power to make change,” erated delivery of front office solutions, block chain, and
Bean says. augmented reality.
The first hackathon Manulife partnered with the consultancy Scramble Sys-
tems to organize the hackathon.
The LOFT celebrated its official launch in July with an em- While the LOFT’s first hackathon was internally-ori-
ployee hackathon over two days. The challenge that teams ented, Blandizzi says that future events may involve out-
worked on: “How might we prepare to serve our next gen- side entrepreneurs and techies. “We are sorting through
eration of customers and expand our services to those who the IP issues, and working with legal and audit and com-
are just beginning to think about securing their financial pliance on that,” he says. “Many other companies have
future?” About 100 employees participated, and a handful done it, so we’re exploring how can we follow suit with
of senior Manulife execs came to Boston on the final day our own spin, and take in ideas from the startup commu-
of the hackathon to judge the projects and participate in nity. We’re open to engaging with startup organizations
an opening reception for the LOFT, which attracted more that want to partner with us – and help solve some very
than 300 people from the local innovation community. complex problems.”
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Expectations
‘Most people see only the
Blandizzi says that it’d be “a recipe for failure, if you want-
ed ROI in the first year.” But his goal is “to build a capa-
Uber-type ideas, but 90 per-
bility in our organization where we can fail ideas quick- cent of things that startups try
ly, and get to those Uber ideas. Most people see only the fail. If you have a $10 million
Uber-type ideas, but 90 percent of things that startups try
fail. If you have a $10 million failure that you can’t really failure that you can’t really
document any learnings from, it’s not a successful failure. document any learnings from,
But a couple hundred thousand dollar failure — an idea that
it’s not a successful failure.’
everybody thought was viable, and that has helped identify
other areas that can be efficiently executed on — that starts
to translate into a successful failure.” Blandizzi talks about new technology that increases the efficiency of a business
producing a “quarterly failure report” for the LOFT “that area.”
would list the failures, and speak to the learnings and the Bean says that the LOFT “is looking at solutions that
successes of those failures.” have a longer runway than a typical IS project” at Manulife,
“In the early days, LOFT is more about building an eco- which tends to expect a payback in two years or less. “We
system and culture here that can be innovative,” Moghimi understand this is a three- to five-year stint,” he says. “We
says. “But we need to deliver some business value too, have to make returns in that period, or else we’re not doing
which could be new business lines, products, services, a our job.” IL
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separation from participants’ day jobs. round that payment moment with
We did some work with Whirlpool value before, during, and after the
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United Airlines was going through some turbulence in 2012. That year, the Chicago-based carrier
ranked dead last in the annual Airline Quality Rating report, an industry report card that measures
customer satisfaction.
A year later, United had made the largest leap in the rankings, which included all major U.S. air-
lines, improving rates of on-time performance, mishandled baggage, passenger “bumping,” and overall
customer complaints. United Airline’s 2014 net income also showed dramatic improvement, spiking to
$1.97 billion, up 89 percent from 2013.
Part of the continuing turnaround story at United are new approaches to idea-sourcing and a focus on
rolling out technologies more rapidly. And one of the key players at the company is Jason Flores, Senior
Manager, IT, Flight Operations, Mobile Technology, and Innovation. We spoke with him recently about
some of the initiatives that he and others in the company have introduced to improve both airline opera-
tions and the passenger experience.
Sourcing and scoring ideas » Return: How long will it take to return the invest-
ment? Within one year receives the highest score, and
Flores assumed his current role in 2013, when he was within three years receives the lowest score.
asked to create an IT innovation program that would solicit
» Advantage: Is the idea groundbreaking and new, or
and cultivate ideas from United’s administrative employ-
already existing?
ees. He adopted what he calls an “intrapreneur” approach,
in which individual employees take responsibility for their » Market: Is there a market for this idea? Is it for every
ideas, and his innovation team (now about a half-dozen single customer, or does it just touch a subset?
staffers and contractors) helps them shepherd their ideas
» Potential: How likely is that this idea will be imple-
from concept to reality. Since Flores works within the IT
mented? Are there too many components that could
group, the focus is on ideas with “some sort of IT enable-
complicate the rollout, or is this something that could
ment or IT component. If it’s an idea related to boarding
be up and running in a couple of months?
planes, there will be some sort of IT component on the back
end,” he says. The scoring system, Flores says, helped ensure that his
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Flores developed a scorecard to help evaluate employ- team was devoting its energy to ideas “with more meat on
ees’ ideas, which he nicknamed RAMP: them.”
» iPad Air2 for the pilots: The iPad Air2 devices up- content based on a person’s location), NFC technology
date the first-generation iPads, which United be- (often used for payments), and customer data. For in-
gan rolling out to pilots in 2011 to reduce paper- stance, the flight attendants using their new iPhones
work. The newer iPads are designed to give pilots to handle credit card transactions will now be able to
the latest weather updates, cockpit procedure man- collect data that United couldn’t easily gather before.
uals, as well as help them keep track of their time “We’re creating new opportunities to understand our
on-the-job to make sure they’re not violating FAA customers and their retail purchase trends,” Flores
regulations. says.
Innovation challenges
Peter Erickson, executive vice president of Innovation, Technology, and Quality for General Mills, is
focused on a very clear goal: to help the company, with 43,000 employees and brands like Cheerios,
Nature Valley, and Betty Crocker, become “the best big small food company in the world.”
But blending scale and agility is a tall order for most large organizations. We spoke with Erickson in
July to talk about how he’s approaching it; how the company stays close to consumers; and his efforts to
position the $17.6 billion company as the “partner of choice” for inventors and startups working in the
food industry.
Erickson has been with Minneapolis-based General Mills for 27 years, and he reports directly to CEO
Ken Powell.
Treating the world as our lab So back in the day, we used this adage of a General Mills
researcher used the lab as their world. We flipped that
Innovation Leader: The General Mills innovation pro- on its head and said a researcher needs to view the world
gram is one of the longest-running among big corpora- as their lab. We really tried to open the doors of General
tions. What prompted the launch of the program, and Mills and be much more [overt] about what the needs of
what were some of the initial obstacles? General Mills are, and inviting inventors and innovators
from all around the world to connect with us to together
Peter Erickson: Our commitment to innovation at Gener- try to drive growth.
al Mills has been around since the company was founded
150 years ago. Over the last decade, we’ve made a very con- Within the last several years, we have been working dili-
certed effort toward … reinventing innovation at General gently on trying to [make] the consumer even more central
Mills. One of the first phases of that, which started about a to our development process. And we talk about creating
decade ago, was our focus on looking outside the company consumer-first design, where we’re getting our research-
– new ideas, new technologies, new connection points that ers and innovation teams out into consumers’ homes, into
could help drive growth for General Mills by bringing new the grocery stores, shopping with consumers, really try-
capabilities into the organization. What we have come to ing to gain a lot more empathy for the various consumers
we serve … and doing a lot of that through ethnographic
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learn is that there are lots of other really smart people out
there that have tremendous ideas and capabilities that we research in observing consumers in their own environ-
can do a better job of leveraging. ments to [figure] out those critical jobs that need to be
done. Again, our belief is if we can get the individual who can solve the
problem as close to the individual who has the problem, we dramati-
cally increase the likelihood that we’re going to be able to bridge that
gap and create something meaningful for the consumer, and ultimately
meaningful for General Mills.
When we look at all the stuff we’ve done across General Mills, really
the overarching goal, the North Star that we see for ourselves, is this
aspiration of becoming the best big small food company in the world.
What we’re really talking about is [embracing] many of the best prac-
tices that small companies have today. The focus on the consumer and
the understanding of the consumer is probably greater at small compa-
nies than at big companies. Small companies are very agile and quick
and able to pivot in the marketplace – and they’re very efficient in their
use of resources. So we’re trying to adapt some of those small-company
techniques, but at the same time preserve some of the big company’s ca-
pabilities – things like the depth of talent that we have. We continue to
invest in recruiting and developing and retaining some of the best and
brightest minds in the food industry… Small companies would kill for
some of the skills and capabilities that we enjoy within our organization
today.
The second thing that big companies have is the ability to scale. When
we have an idea that works, we’re able to scale it around the globe very
quickly – and we have lots of examples of innovations that might have
started in one part of the world that worked very well, and we’ve taken it
to other parts of the world.
The third is the ability to make long-term bets. We have some very deep
and long-term technology initiatives that we invest in that are helping
us create advantages in technologies that we think can take General
Mills well out into the future. Small companies tend to focus on what
they need for the next week or the next quarter or the next year; we’re
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working on programs … that may not realize results and benefits for five
or even 10 years. So when we think of this adage of the best big small
company, it’s about all of that.
‘Looking to learn from the best’ kinds of software, tools that allow us to be able to transfer
knowledge more effectively. Again, some have worked really
What are some of the keys to the program’s success and well, and others have been great learning experiences for us.
longevity?
Striving to be a partner of choice
We don’t sit here believing we have the best approach to
innovation, that we have an advantage that’s going to allow What made you decide to start seeking external re-
us to win forever. We are constantly looking to learn from sources with the G-WIN program [the General Mills
the best, not just in the food industry but from many other Worldwide Innovation Network, which we’ve covered
industries that are focused on growth and innovation. So previously]?
that spirit of continued improvement is one of the elements
that has helped us be successful. The other one is a will- If I go back to my background, before I came to General
ingness to experiment within the context Mills, I worked for a small company. I saw
of our organization. We do a lot of pilot- how impactful it was to be reaching out and
ing – if we have a new approach or a new leveraging resources outside. But to do that
technique or new insight on how to drive effectively, you really had to know what to
innovation, we’ll try it in one portion of our ask for. One of the adages we talked a lot
organization, and if it works very well, we’ll about in the early days is if you’re out there
scale it across the rest of the organization. looking for everything, you’ll find nothing.
If it doesn’t, then we learn from it and move But if you’re out looking for specific solu-
on. The third thing is we have great sup- tions to key technical challenges, you’ll find
port from senior management. My direct many ways of being able to deliver that. That
boss, the CEO, he is constantly asking and was something I learned working for a small
pushing and prodding for us to continue to company.
invest in and develop new capabilities and
new approaches. And he’s given us a lot of [We are] really striving to be this partner of
latitude to try new things across the organization. choice externally, where inventors and innovators will come
to General Mills first with their ideas, because they know we
You mentioned some strategies or approaches that ha- treat them with respect, we take care of their technology, and
ven’t worked over the years. Can you be more specific we would share with them in the value that has been created.
about what those were and why they didn’t work?
How much of a difference has it made?
I think we have tried different approaches to how we’ve struc-
tured our organization. Like lots of organizations, we tried We’ve had a lot of products – and improvements to our ex-
centralizing and realized that we lost touch with the con- isting products … that have been made because of the con-
sumer. Then we decentralized and realized we didn’t have nection points we have leveraged with others outside. We did
enough scale to be able to invest deeply. So we’re always try- some research a few years back where we looked at all the new
ing to optimize the size and scale of our organization – some- products we introduced and at that time, about 50 percent of
times it works well for us, and sometimes we end up taking a everything we introduced had been leveraging a significant
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step back and trying something different. We’ve tried a lot of external component of innovation or technology. Those 50
different ways of communicating and capturing knowledge percent that were leveraged were generating more profit and
within the organization. Also, we’ve tried some different more growth than the other 50 percent by a very large factor.
Talk about some of the projects or strategies that have sumer. We [aim to] understand what that consumer need
blown you away. is. Then we build a series of hypotheses on how we might
be able to solve that consumer need. We look into what are
Certainly, over the last decade, some of the most consis- all the technologies that we think will allow us to address
tently successful innovation we’ve seen has come from the various hypotheses that we generated – again, not just
our snack business – in particular the work we’ve done in food, but in other corollary industries as well. Then we
around portable snacks, grain snacks. When you think develop a network of companies that are providing those
about the Nature Valley line or the Fiber One product sorts of solutions and technologies. We reach out to them,
line, they have been hugely successful over a long period we talk about what they have, we determine if there is mu-
of time because we have been committed to continual in- tual value to be had by working together on solving that
novation. Our competition is constantly trying to catch [need], and if all that works, then we ultimately choose to
up, and in some cases, they have been able to match our work together and co-invent the solution.
product. But in all those cases, we’re on to something
Does this process ever involve direct competitors?
even better by the time they’ve figured out how to do What’s in store for the future of the General Mills inno-
the work that we’ve done. And the result of that is in vation program and for the food industry in general?
our grain snack businesses, we’ve enjoyed some terrific
share growth over a long period of time. And our con- I certainly think the level of competition in our industry is
sumers have rewarded that with more trial and repeat not going to subside in any shape or form in the future. I
[purchasing] that have helped those businesses grow. think there are some parts of our industry that are focused
on cost-effectiveness and driving growth by taking away
Winners need to be willing to invest things that can contribute to the bottom line. I believe
the winners are going to be those that are balanced in that
Describe the company’s process for generating, select- approach, that are being efficient in where they invest but
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ing and developing ideas. are also willing to invest … in capabilities and technolo-
gies that are meaningful to consumers and that will drive
As with everything at General Mills, we start with con- growth into the future. IL
A transcript of the call is below, or you can listen to the audio online.
can’t do it? To dig into that and try to figure that out on up. Talk a little bit about what you like about that meth-
behalf of the Coca-Cola Company, that was the job. Now od and maybe how broadly you’ve been training people
we’ve had quite a journey since then. We’ve tried many, there.
many things. The cool way to say that is we’ve pivoted two
or three times, but essentially we failed a few times and Lean means two things. It means maximum speed, and
changed directions, lots of learning. least amount of waste. Maximum speed, minimum waste.
I put one slide up in front of our operating committee, If you think about it, what is every large organization faced
which includes our chairman and his direct reports. It was with? They’re slow, and they spend a lot of money, and
a slide that just said three words: “Learn by doing.” I think we’re right in there. This whole lean approach has been key
that’s key. to everything we’re doing here. Again, we didn’t get to it on
Day Two. It took us a long time to figure this out.
I just said, “We’re going to learn by doing. I don’t know
how to do this, but we’re going to try a lot of things. And We did two things. We created a new platform that we
we’re going to fail at a lot of them, but we’re going to learn called Coca-Cola Founders, where we work with proven
continuously across that.” founders to co-create with them early-stage or seed-stage
startups. We started that platform.
We haven’t hired consultants. We haven’t asked other peo-
ple to figure this out. We’ve actually tried to figure it out on Then we started a second platform, essentially training
our own, and I think that’s actually really key.
It sounds like you were very clear that this was not about
incremental product innovation, like, a different pack-
age for Diet Coke or an extra button on the vending
machine. This was about looking for real growth and
things you just weren’t doing today.
lean principles across our internal organization. Those are First of all, let me say that we’ve been investing and part-
the two things that we started about a year and a half ago. nering with established startups, especially late-stage
startups, for a number of years now. We are partners with
Did you do the training yourself? Do you have a team of Spotify, Misfit, Music Dealers, a lot of other startups. We
people that are running lean startup workshops inside had already been doing that. Once we understood lean, we
the company? thought, “What if we could all the way back to the begin-
ning and partner with a founder that was specifically com-
Yes, it’s all internal. Actually, I will say that from the begin- ing out of their startup?” In other words, they just sold or
ning we formed a relationship with what’s called Up Global, had an exit from their startup, or just had a big failure and
now. They started Startup Weekend. Essentially, you can were in between things.
We wanted something as turnkey as that inside of our or- If we could give them access to seed funding, and give them
ganization, so we partnered with one of the founders. He access to us as a launch partner, meaning get them to the
had spun off and started doing his own thing. We found right people inside of Coke to make decisions quick and pi-
him and brought him in to help us codify what they were lot their product and all that… If we could give that to these
doing. All of it is framed in our own language, in the Coke proven founders, what could we create?
language that people understand here. It’s essentially in-
ternalizing the lean principles and tools out there. That could only work inside of Coke if it was in align-
ment with our business units. The way we’re structured
I want to ask you a follow up about Coca-Cola Founders. is through geographic business units. We went to the BU
In terms of that program, and bringing in entrepre- presidents inside and pitched this idea. They were into it.
neurs to work with your people to launch startups, how
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did you promote that? Did you put boundaries around Then we went into the markets themselves, into the startup
it in terms of, “Hey, we’re looking for people with mo- communities and found the founders. We built what we call
bile app ideas or dispensing or distribution ideas?” a co-founder network where we just link them together. We
built that network. In a year, we were live in 10 cities. That Can you give one concrete example of what’s an idea
was last year. that one of these 23 startups came up with? What kind
of space did they focus on?
Through that, they launched 23 startups across those
10 cities. If you know anything about this, one in 10 I’m happy to share all of that. Actually it’s on our website, if
startups make it. That’s not an unusual number. We anybody wants to check out coca-colafounders.com.
did that within a year. I have to say that doing anything
like that is quite difficult inside of a large organiza- We always start with a Coke problem, a Coca-Cola is-
tion. sue, a challenge. You never want to talk about problems
inside a big company, so we call them challenges. But it’s
We ourselves actually approached that whole platform as if essentially a big problem. The team that was based in San
it was a lean startup and just applied all the same methods
and tools to that effort or that platform development as you
would in launching a startup. ‘You hire managers to manage
The need for ‘explorers’ your business model. What
you don’t hire typically are
I imagine a lot of companies could spend a year just
explorers, people to actually
figuring out the intellectual property issues of, “OK,
we’re going to work with entrepreneurs and co-create figure out new business mod-
things with them. Who owns it?” els.’
Once you have an established business model and you have
an established business like the Coca-Cola Company, es- Francisco focused on one of the biggest challenges that we
sentially the way you keep that going is you hire people to have inside of our US business, which is what we call out-
execute your business model. of-stocks.
You hire managers to manage your business model. What It’s easy to understand. If you go to your local convenience
you don’t hire typically are explorers, people to actually store wherever you live, and you’re looking for whatever
figure out new business models. I think that’s one of the you like, Coca-Cola Zero, let’s say, and it’s not on the shelf,
biggest challenges for any big, successful company, suc- that’s mildly disappointing to you. But that’s a billion-dol-
cessful company, to do this. lar lost opportunity for us.
In our case, we have 700,000 people who are hired to Solving that out-of-stock issue is critical for us. It’s a
execute a business model, and not explore a new one. group of interrelated problems. It’s not just one thing.
When you go to them and say, “Look, we want funding Essentially, no one knows exactly when someone is go-
to do this,” you mentioned the IP, “We want to do this ing to buy the last six-pack or whatever of Coca-Cola
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and that,” they look at you like, “What, are you crazy? Zero. Nobody knows that. A guy comes by every two or
We don’t do this.” It’s a sort of fundamental structural three days and restocks the shelf. There’s no on-demand
issue. model.
They thought, “What if we could create a way for the re- an easy example, one of our startups is looking for a CTO.
tailer, the shop owner, to post a job and whoever wanted One of their milestones is hiring a CTO.
to come and restock that shelf could do the job in an hour,
wouldn’t that be more beneficial to Coke?” Could they cre- We look at their milestones and measure according to those.
ate a business around that? Once they have a business going, they have real customers,
they’re generating revenue, then we look at that. How many
If you think about it, there are a lot of companies out there users do you have? How much revenue are you generating?
right now, TaskRabbit and others. This is sort of TaskRab- When do you reach profitability, that kind of thing.
bit for corporations. That’s what they created. It’s called
Wonolo. The business model is just like Uber. Phil Gibbs sends in a question asking, “Were the
founders employees, or did they become employees of
You post a job. Someone takes the job. The person that does Coca-Cola? What are the issues around equity and own-
the job gets paid through the app, not the retailer, so it re- ership in startups? How did you hash that out?”
moves that friction. Again, it’s sort of the Uber for tempo-
rary staffing. They launched that, I think, 10 months ago. Great question. I mentioned we made several mistakes or
pivots along the way. One thing that we did is we thought
They’ve got 70-plus customers. Actually, Uber is one of — and you can relate if you’re inside of a big company — we
their customers. Burger King, Home Depot, lots of big thought the easiest thing to do is just hire these people.
corporations.
Number one, none of these people wanted to work inside
Again, the idea is what we call win-win internally. It creates a big company. I used a lot of my own personal equity and
value for us internally, but it also allows them to hopefully sweat and everything essentially selling them and talking
start a big billion-dollar startup. them into doing it.
Metrics We hired them and got them all set up inside of Coke. Once
they started doing what they are best at, creating a big
We’ve got a couple questions already from listeners, startup, all of them are outside of the beverage industry. I
so let’s get to those. Question number one comes from mentioned the one about Wonolo, that’s in the staffing in-
Stanley Black & Decker. What types of metrics are you dustry. Our internal structure and support systems are not
using to track your progress and define success? geared to running a staffing company. We’re a beverage
company. All of a sudden I had all of the internal people,
That’s a great question. Actually, it took us a little while audit and everything, coming to me saying, “David, let me
to get here. We track progress just like a VC does, in this remind you. We’re a beverage company. We’re not a staff-
case. We look right at growth metrics, the things that really ing company. What are these guys doing?”
matter. There’s a whole book on this, by the way, “Metrics
that Matter.” It’s inside of a book called “Running Lean.” Long story short, I’ll call it a pivot. We spun all of them out.
All of those startups were spun out of the company. They’re
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In early-stage startups, they don’t have a product yet. Most all their own legal entities. We’ve set them up through a
of them don’t have a team or a product. The way that we convertible note, so our investment converts to equity as
measure success is by milestones. In other words, just as soon as they reach a sustainable business model.
That was one of our major pivots. We hired them into the do that.” I would challenge that. I’d say, “Why can’t every
company. We figured out that wouldn’t work, so we spun brand do that, every company do that?”
them all out.
I actually think that’s the path to success going forward. I’d
Working with small companies say anybody can look at Google or any of the tech brands
and look at how they’re doing it and figure it out for their
We have another question about other examples of big own company.
and small companies working together effectively.
That’s from Peter Sayburn at Market Gravity. I guess I I would argue that a lot of bigger, more mature compa-
would maybe expand that question to say, “Were there nies, they tend to have a corporate development group
role models that you looked at of how big companies can that looks at the acquisitions. That’s at a much later
work with smaller companies, or did you feel like, ‘OK, stage. They’re typically not building those relation-
we’re going to have to hack our own path here?’” ships or making very early-stage investments in compa-
nies that just started this year and might have five, ten,
I can answer that in two ways. One is going to sound al- twenty employees.
most self-serving, and I don’t mean it to sound that way. We
didn’t have a model to work from. Scott, you’re right. We have got a M&A team, and they’re
great at what they do. They’re used to doing big billion-dol-
Again, that’s why I put the slide up in front of our operating lar deals. Just last year we announced a couple of big ones,
committee and said, “We’re going to learn by doing. If you one with Monster Beverage Company, the energy drink,
want to fire me, fire me now because there’s a lot of things and Keurig. We do that kind of stuff all the time. We buy
that are not going to happen the way everyone wants them big bottlers that we have. These are multi-billion dollar
to happen.” deals. That’s more like private equity. Again, with this oth-
er approach, you have to get into this whole lean movement
We didn’t have a model to start with, especially in our in- to understand how it works and the speed that you have to
dustry. Having said that, I encourage anyone to look at operate in.
Google, or the big tech brands, Amazon, Google, Face-
book, even Apple. They use this model quite effectively. Let’s see if we can get in a couple last questions here for
They have this portfolio of ventures—early-stage, late- you, David. Ken Durand from Ericsson wants to know,
stage startups inside their venturing portfolio—that they “Do you have any internal people that you allow to take
have investments in, relationships with. advantage of the founders program? How do you get in-
trapreneurs involved?”
At any point they can just acquire one of them, bring them
in, and essentially repackage it. It’s not as easy as this, That’s a great question. To be very honest, we haven’t quite
I know. Repackage it and then offer that service as a new figured that out. I will say that once you do this, or if you
Google service. Think about it. That’s how Facebook does can do this, it really connects with the “millennial” buzz-
it, Apple, all of these. That’s how the tech brands do it. word out there. A lot of existing employees or people who
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The mechanics around how to take an existing employee I’d say two things. One is more of a mental model, which
and spin them out in their own startup, we’re still figuring is always super difficult. There’s a whole almost genera-
that out to be totally honest with you. I can’t give you any tional thing. I think for the first time in history, it’s su-
big insight there. per-easy to start a company. Funding, getting a team,
working around the world, it’s very easy to start your own
You were saying earlier, and when I’ve heard you speak, company.
you’ve done Startup Weekends for employees specif-
ically, right? And you’ve done the lean startup train- I think just culturally people inside of our company and
ing, so it sounds like you’re kind of paving the path to other companies, especially younger people, don’t feel like
figuring that out. they have to go down that management track anymore. It’s
a challenge for an organization to think about that and
want to embrace that.
‘We don’t look at failing as You have people inside the company that sort of get that
failing. We look at it as learn- and want change, want to embrace change, and then other
ing. How fast can we learn?’ people who just sort of see it as a fad, almost like the Inter-
net. I used to work for a guy who told me that the Internet
was a fad.
Yeah, we do a lot of experiments and failing. We don’t look Speaking the right language internally
at failing as failing. We look at it as learning. How fast can
we learn? I know it sounds trite when I say it that way, but Then secondly, this whole training on lean principles in-
we try everything. side — trying to find the right language and the right way
to actually position that, inside the company, so the maxi-
All I’m trying to say is we haven’t cracked the code on that. mum amount of people benefit.
We don’t know exactly how to do that internally, but we do
Startup Weekends all over the place. We’ve tried everything. We’ve called it different things.
We’re still in the process of making that work. You essen-
I have to say to rise inside of our company you have to be tially just have to try to figure out how to get it inside your
a great manager, managing our business model, great culture and use the right language. We definitely are still
at execution. To actually create a high-growth startup, trying to figure that out.
you have to be a great explorer. Those are, honestly, two
different skill sets. It’s rare to find an amazing founder Trying to figure out the right language in what sense?
inside of a large organization. We’re just trying to figure To describe the mission of all this stuff that you’re do-
that out. ing?
That sounds like it’s an area that you’re still working Let me give you an example. One of the common prob-
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on. What else for you feels like something you’re trying lems that we have inside of our company, what we would
to solve, or an area that you want to explore, in the next call a problem, is we need to get people to drink more Diet
year or so? Coke. How do we do that? That’s a problem.
That’s a challenge for us inside, but that’s actually not a value it can create for companies. What we did is we looked
problem that people are facing out there. I don’t know at growth in two ways: scale and agility.
that someone woke up today and said, “My car won’t
start. I wonder if I could meet that solution with a Diet If you’re a founder, and you’re trying to build your compa-
Coke?” ny, what keeps you up at night is scale, how to scale your
business model, how to scale your product, your team, and
When you start talking about, “What is the problem we’re so forth. If you flip that around, what keeps most business
trying to solve,” there’s this sort of disconnect. It’s like be- managers up at night is agility, how to adapt and stay rele-
ing able to think, “Well, we have a business plan. Of course vant to the next generation.
we need to sell more Diet Coke. That’s our problem.”
What we’ve done in the book is showing how to use design
From the lean startup method you say, “No, what is the in two ways. I think that might be the new thing, the inter-
consumer or the user’s problem that we’re trying to solve?” esting thing. Yes, you can use design to grow, but it’s two
Even simple things like that are difficult inside. different approaches. We use a lot of examples around how
we’ve done that at Coke, in both cases.
What’s an idea or two that you think are counter-intui-
tive, unique, fresh, that you and your co-author, focus Cool. I’ll plug that. The title is “Design to Grow,” out
on in [your new] book? next week. I’ll also mention David’s Twitter handle is
@DavidRButler, so you can follow him there. Thank
The book is about how the Coca-Cola Company uses de- you, David, for joining us today.
sign to grow. In the interest of time, I’ll just say I think
there’s a big disconnect around this word design and the Thanks Scott. It was awesome. IL
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» Skate where the puck’s going. Tilzer says that prototyping team. As we find exciting young tech-
since arriving, he has put a big emphasis on devel- nologies, their job is to explore whether they can be
oping mobile apps for CVS’ various divisions. The meaningful, and deploy them in live environments to
main pharmacy app, for instance, lets users scan collect data.”
codes on pill bottles and order refills, or send pho-
» Lab stores. But rolling out new technologies — and
tos to be printed. “We now have top-rated apps on
then yanking them out if they don’t work as expected
every [mobile] platform, for every business unit,”
— can be disruptive to a traditional CVS location. So
Tilzer says.
CVS is building three “lab stores” that will open this
» Invest in tests. “We’re piloting some telemedicine year, in Boston, New York, and Silicon Valley. They’re
services in our MinuteClinic business, so that we may designed to be constantly changing — and to appeal to
be able to provide a wider range of services,” Tilzer a tech-savvy, “early adopter” customer base in those
says, with a staffer in the clinic getting guidance and locales.
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‘When we got started, there 3. The rise of ‘shadow banking’ services offering low
were like 25 ideas that people interest rates and new models, like Lending Club or
Kabbage
here wanted us to tackle. But
we’re trying to be relentless-
ly focused on things that will
drive revenue and be import-
ant for the bank, and not get
pulled in a thousand different
directions.’
trying to be relentlessly focused on things that will drive ating faster [inside Eastern] than any startup that is trying
revenue and be important for the bank, and not get pulled to work with a bank.’ And we are.”
in a thousand different directions. Right now, we have the “Any innovation team runs the risk of being seen as
an indictment of how things are done currently. I saw it at multi-million dollar investment in setting up Eastern Labs,
Capital One, when we started the payments business there. O’Malley acknowledges, “is a big deal for Eastern.”
One hundred percent [of your potential for success] comes O’Malley says he has discussed with the bank’s board
down to the support you have from the board and other se- the possibility of eventually launching startups that would
nior management.” market Eastern Labs’ products to other institutions. “East-
“The existing business has demands on it that never ern is the first major user of what we’re trying to build, but
go away. If you don’t firewall resources for the innovation we have authority from the board to spin things out. The
team, the existing business just eats them. You need your organization gets new products and the cultural change
own resources.” that it wants, but the end result is going to be something
“We’re building a pipeline [of new product ideas], and big.” The possibility of producing independent ventures
we look at this like R&D for the bank. We expect to have a has helped O’Malley attract the sort of workers he believes
lot of duds and a lot of successes.” he needs. “Spin-outs are an expectation on our part. I don’t
“We’re still fairly loose on metrics. But we didn’t come think you can attract the right talent if what you’re building
here just to do cool stuff. You measure progress by asking, did can’t have a big impact. There’s also a bigger potential for
you make a lot of money or not?” But quantifying whether you financial returns [that would benefit Eastern.]” IL
are on the path to making a lot of money — that can be hard to
know. We are paying attention to things like how many cus-
tomers we’ve touched, loans booked, insurance sold.”
“If you want to change an organization, people learn by
doing. So far, we’ve worked with the retail team, the cred-
it team, the small business team. We’ve been pushing and
shipping stuff. People in the organization know what we’re
doing because we’ve been working with them.”
Since Eastern is a mutually-owned bank that isn’t sub-
ject to Wall Street expectations, the mindset there is that
innovation “is a longer lead-time investment than a pub-
lic company could typically make. We have a longer run-
way — a few years to prove we’re generating results.” But a
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them when they do happen.]” ect] too quickly, you will kill it, or the idea will get watered
“About half [of the 100 people in our lab] work on new down. It won’t have time to grow. I fight hard to not have
business incubation. In the prototype phase, we don’t have a sales metrics tied to innovation.” IL
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