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Abstract. Shippers are fans of couples. In the virtual sphere, rival Ship-
pers (Shippers of conflicting couples) are obligated to share the same
space in order to discuss common interest matters. However, sometimes,
conflict emerges between them when the divergence of opinions appears.
Our work investigates the implications of these conflicts. In order to pro-
pose countermeasures to prevent or reduce the frequency of conflicts,
a good understanding of the problem is necessary. We start discussing
about why people felt motivated to debate about fictional couples. Next,
we report about how this struggle changes the normative sense of peo-
ple. Finally, we investigate the role of the virtual space in the conflict.
Our investigation takes place in a Facebook group called How I Met Your
Mother [Brazil]. To support our observations, we collected evidences from
posts from the group, interviews with members and answers from a ques-
tionnaire.
1 Introduction
Shipper is a term used by Fandoms to designate individuals that cheers for
a romantic engagement between two characters, be them fictional or real. The
word is derived from the English word relationship, and shippers “ship” a couple.
Shippers and shipping are a largely unexplored research topic [6]. A notable
exception is Scodari and Felder [9], which conducted one of the first studies
about this kind of fans. Our research extends their work investigating shipping
and shippers’ practices and conflicts in a 10,000-member online community called
How I Met Your Mother [Brazil].
The sitcom How I Met Your Mother involves a love triangle, what leads fans
of the show to split themselves into two major groups of shippers. We observe
that the preferences for different couples leads to conflict between shippers of
different groups. Nevertheless, to discuss general topics about the sitcom, these
conflicting groups share the same virtual space, routinely coping with conflict.
Our analysis focuses on understanding motivations for shipping, how the con-
flicting groups interact in the community, and how the elements of the virtual
space used by the community – a Facebook group – contribute for conflict cre-
ation and resolution. To investigate such aspects, we employ a mixed method
research design, combining semistructured interviews, privileged ethnography,
and questionnaires. To our study, we collected and analyzed several of these dis-
cussions. In addition, we also interview ten members of the group to get their
perception of the conflict. To support our observations, we used a questionnaire
that received answers from 403 members.
Although, our investigation took place in a Facebook group and we focused on
Fandoms, conflicts due to opinion divergence between members are not exclusive
of this context. Students can argue about the better solution to a problem.
Investors can discuss what the best option to invest in the stock market. Readers
of a politics news portal may have different opinions depending on their party
preferences. With a better understanding of these kind of conflict, we could plan
changes (architectural, normative or governmental) to avoid, reduce or incentive
this topic or to protect members of its effects or even projecting solutions to
somehow affect these conflicts.
This paper is organized as follows. Section 2 presents a brief overview of
researches about Shippers found in literature. Section 3 gives a background about
the show and about the group itself. Section 4 details our methodology and our
data. In Section 5, we discuss the obtained results and some conclusions with
proposal for future work are presented in Section 6.
2 Related Work
Jenkins [3] was one of the works that inaugurates the research about Fandoms. In
his work, he discuss about how the field evolved, limitations and open questions.
Jenkins [3] highlights the mistake made by most researchers that try to explain
Fandoms using a religious metaphor, because, unlike Religion, fans can belong
to multiple Fandoms.
Regarding studies about Shippers, Scodari and Felder [9] conducted the first
research about this specific kind of fan. In their work, they investigate a con-
flict between X-Files’ fans, more precisely, between Shippers (fans who were
hoping that the protagonists form a couple) and NoRomos (an acronym of No
Romancers that they used to refer to fans who preferred avoid a romantic en-
gagement between the protagonists). In addition of reporting arguments used by
the Shippers and by the NoRomos, they traced a theory between the narrative
of the show and how it is associated with the conflict. They commented the
fact that the show producers picked the side of NoRomos and constantly denied
the possibility of engagement between the protagonists, but contradictorily they
keep insinuating this in episodes. We made similarly observations in our study.
Actually, our research extends Scodari and Felder’s work. However, we ex-
plore the role of the virtual space as an environment catalyst to the conflict,
while Scodari and Felder focused in the conflict itself and its actors (arguments,
behavior, etc). In addition, we investigate Shipper’s conflict between Shippers
of conflictant couples, instead a fans who are Shipper and who are not. Finally,
their investigation takes place in the fandom of the dramatic show X-Files, while
ours use a sitcom called How I Met Your Mother. However, we directly compare
some of results with Scodari and Felder’s observations in X-Files fandom.
More recent research about Shippers concentrate in the study of Slashers
(fans who fantasize a gay couple with the characters), e.g. Tosenberger [10] that
studies them in the Harry Porter’s fandom and dos Santos [8] that studies these
fans in the context a British TV show called Sherlock. According Jenkins [4],
Slash is an attempt to insert personal aspects inside the object of your admi-
ration. In our research, we have not discussed about this aspect of Shippers,
although the topic has emerged during interviews. Our work focuses in a strug-
gle between Shippers of different couples. However, it is worth to say that all
interviewee believed that How I Met Your Mother’s fandom has no real Slashers
and “when a fan says he cheers for a gay couple either he is just kidding or
revealing a fetish” (LS), as it was said by one of our interviewees. It has no deep
emotional connection.
3 Background
4 Methodology
The results presented in this study revolve around our two research questions:
one which aims to understand the behavior of Shippers inside the group; and a
second which investigates the relationship between this behavior and the archi-
tecture of the virtual space used by the community. However, before start report
our observations, we will briefly describe our respondent’s characteristics in next
section.
In Table 1, we show how long people who answered our questionnaire were
viewers of the show and how long they belong to HIMYM Brazil.
How long time have you How long time have you joined the group?
Watched the show? One Month Six Months One Year Two Years More Than Sum
Two Years
One Month 10 0 0 0 0 10
Six Months 26 19 0 0 0 45
One Year 23 52 17 0 0 91
Two Years 13 36 27 5 0 81
More Than Two Years 20 50 74 26 6 176
Sum 92 156 118 31 6 403
Most of our responders are in their first year in the group, but they watched
the show longer than that. We also asked if they knew the meaning of the word
Shipper; and, after explain what it means, if they believed they were shippers.
These results are summarized in Figure 1.
Fortunately, most of our responders describe themselves as Shipper. Next,
we asked what couple they “ship”. Based on the answer to this question, people
were directed to different questions. We choose keep only these three options to
reduce noise in our analysis. Figure 2 shows that Barney & Robin is the favorite
couple among our interviewees.
Finally, we asked in the questionnaire if they were aware about the conflict,
73% of responders said that they have already seen one of these discussions. In
Figure 3, we show that longer the person belongs to the group, the greater the
chance he/she had ever witnessed a discussion between Shippers (older members
have witnessed the discussion at least once).
Next, we will discuss about how this conflict affect the living in the group.
Fig. 1: Know the meaning of “Shipper” (Left) and Consider himself a Shipper (Right).
HIMYM Brazil is a group open to discussions about all topics related to the
sitcom. As usually happens in similar groups, there are rules to avoid off-topic
posts and spoilers. Regarding shippers’ discussions, there are no clear rules,
however. In the past, when the group was deciding its operating rules, there were
requests to make such discussions forbidden, but this was not done. In contrast
with the perception of some that the resulting discussions are not welcome in
the group, 65% of the respondents from our questionnaire stated that Shipper’s
discussion is a recurrent topic in the group.
For all interviewees, it is evident to that there are two main sects of shippers
in the community there are Mosbatskty (those who root for Ted & Robin),
and there are Swarkles (those who root for Barney & Robin). Moreover, these
two sects are usually at conflict, generating recurring and sometimes aggressive
discussions. A third portion of the community is those who are indifferent and
do not pick a side. We asked respondents of the questionnaire if they agree
that there was a split in the HIMYM Fandom. Figure 4 shows the agreement
percentage aggregate by favorite couple’s choice.
Fig. 3: Awareness of the Conflict × Time in the Group
Fig. 4: Agreement Percentage about the Fandom Split (aggregate by favorite couple’s
choice).
When discussing the origin and motivation for keeping alive the shipping
conflict in the community, interviewees seem to perceive that this is a natural
consequence of the existence of the love triangle, and of fans turning their sup-
port for a couple in part of their identity in the community. Interviewees stated
that “–This struggle between fans is common in any story that has a romantic
triangle, especially on TV shows” (AT), and “–It’s something that happens in
almost every show; Shippers struggling is common” (RL155). Relating to the
motivations, interviewees mentioned that “some fans take the show to serious”
(AT). One said: “–There are people who raising the flag of a couple and want to
defend it as if it were a football team” (LS). Moreover, on interviewee speculated
that this may happen because it is relatively easy to relate to the characters’
situation: “–People identify with characters and start to wish their happiness;
for this reason, it is common a feeling of transference, where they imagine them-
selves in the character place and create expectations about what is better to each
one” (LC272).
In Brazilian culture, it is usual to routinely discuss what the best football
team is without reaching any conclusion. Interviewees perceive that some of the
community participants follow TV shows the same way others follow football
teams. For those people “the show is a significant part of their lives” (AT). As
their shipping choice becomes part of their identity, it becomes important to
defend it. Nevertheless, in spite of having a rationale that is not alien to the
community, this behavior is often seen as negative. Some respondents said “they
talk about that because have nothing better to do” (e.g., GT303, YA232, BS321).
In addition, a poster gives an advice to Shippers in general: “–to everyone who
keeping discussing about fictional couples: go get a football team to cheer; it
is well better!” (LV8). HIMYM Brazil, like most online communities, reunites
people with a variety of perceptions and cultures.
Regarding identity, people start to saw themselves in the spot of the charac-
ters of the show. Then, when someone is arguing about why Robin should end up
with Ted, this is just a sign that what he would want to himself. One respondent
says “everyone looks something different in a relationship, that’s where the dif-
ferences come” (GS168). They keep arguing because “they wish other people feel
the same way” (JH093). However, one poster states: “–These things of prefer one
or other couple have no argument, we simply like and we identify with different
things. It is like everything in life” (DI22). Identity seems a legit reason to enter
in a discussion and these discussions happens because there is difference of iden-
tities: each character and each couple represents something different. According
one Mosbatsky interviewed, his goal to expose his preference is attract the atten-
tion of others “hopeful” with the same thinking that him (PR). He even created
a minor group derived from HIMYM Brazil and dedicated only to Shippers of
Ted & Robin7 to protect Mosbatsky from the persecution of Swarkles [1].
When one Mosbatsky comments Swarkles content or vice versa, reactions are
almost the same, people start debate and usually they use the same arguments:
“Robin is not the one”, “Robin and Barney do not match”, etc. The aim of
this discussion is not change the other’s opinion, but convincing the other that
his/her opinion is worthwhile. However, like NoRomos in Scodari and Felder’s
study, the Swarkles are “winning” the Shipper’s war. A poster says “–Mobastsky
team lost a long time ago” (MS4). One of the interviewees compares the status
quo to the apartheid 8 , but it is the dominant majority of Swarkles that chases and
attacks on Mosbatsky minority in the group (PR). Due to this situation, other
Mosbatsky interviewed said that she avoid post content about Ted & Robin,
because it would be followed by negative comments by people who disagree of
her couple’s choice (TM). This is a sign that there is a normative sense absorbed
by some members that certain types of content are too controversial to be shared
in the group feed, even with no explicit rules forbidding. According one of the
7
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8
Apartheid was a system of racial segregation in South Africa under which the rights
of the majority black inhabitants were curtailed by the government compound by
the white minority.
Swarkles interviewed, there is “hate”, and it is reciprocal: “–Same way Swarkles
do not like Mosbatsky content, Mosbatsky do not like Swarkles content” (AT).
Swarkles are the majority and Mosbatsky minority feels repressed and avoid
publishing content related with their ship in order to avoid conflict. A Mosbatsky
poster reveals “–I said that I root for Ted & Robin and they scold me; I even left
the group, but decided come back” (MM11). One Mosbatsky among interviewees
said that he often expresses his preference publishing or commenting. He also said
that, due to his posture, he is pursued by Swarkles outside the group. “–I want to
be a Mandela to Mosbatsky” (PR), he said. We tried to confirm this “repression”
through our questionnaire, but the behavior of both groups of Shippers was quite
similar. However, post analyzes suggests that only a small part of Swarkles (and
usually same people) overreact to Mosbatsky’s content. In addition to despise
Mosbatsky’s content; there is a portion of Swarkles that mocks their posts. One
of the interviewees reveals a non-verbal way of dispute in Facebook related with
the Like option. She says: “– I [using Facebook’s like mechanism] like the photo
to numerically make the couple Barney & Robin win” (LR). As the support
of the community, expressed through Likes, was indicative that who is right
in the discussion. This is interesting because, according respondents, “Like” was
the Shipper’s most supportive reaction to content related to their favorite couple
(Mosbatsky: 42%; Swakles: 46%), followed by reading (Mosbatsky: 34%; Swakles:
33%) and commenting (Mosbatsky: 20%; Swakles: 15%).
According most interviewees, the show’s producers are guilty for the conflict
between fans, because they continue to feed the Mosbatsky group with romantic
moments between Ted and Robin, even with the show’s authors officially indicat-
ing that they will not end up together (AT). One of the Mosbatsky interviewed
said in one post, “–It is not fair they play with the heart of a passionate ship-
per like me” (TM5). Another interviewee, with a similar opinion, admitted that
there are only four guilts by his preference for Ted & Robin, they are: Carter
Bays and Craig Thomas (creators of the show) and Josh Radnor and Cobie
Smulders (actors who play Ted and Robin) (PR). He believes that good script
and good performances are the main reasons that draw people to prefer this cou-
ple. Regardless the accusation of fans, the truth is that producers of the sitcom
are aware of this conflict. This even yields a recurring gag on the show, where
Marshall and Lily argue about Robin may or may not be the perfect match (
“the one”) to Ted. Somehow, Marshal represents the hope for Mosbatsky, as a
fan declares in a post: “–Only when Marshal admits he lost the bet, it will be an
end to these two” (RT5).
Mosbatsky themselves recognize that Ted & Robin, probably, is not going to
happen. Few still believe that a big plot twist can happen and Ted & Robin end
up together; “–Even though this is almost impossible” (PR). Mosbatsky are mi-
nority in the group and accepted a role of subservient assigned by Swarkles. We
explicitly asked respondents who the dominant group was and 81% confirmed
that was Swarkles. In addition, we asked respondents how they describe Mos-
batsky and Swarkles fans. The results presented in Figure 6 are aggregated by
their favorite couple’s option.
Fig. 6: How interviewees describe Swarkles (Up) and Mosbatsky (Bottom).
Reasons related with canon (showed in black in Figure 7) were the top voted
options, except by majority that was in 2nd place. Being part of the bigger group
is important to be considered dominant. However, mainly, canon defines what
group will be dominant and what will be submissive and, consequently, affects
the behavior and living of members in the group. This is interesting because
means that external factors are able to influence online interactions.
Most interviewees state that usually they do not discuss outside the group about
what the best couple is. One Mosbastky interviewed said that he does not feel
comfortable to discussing this matter with friends (PR), a second prefers only
to discuss about the show with people who also prefer Ted & Robin (TM).
In addition, other Mosbatsky acknowledges the lack of motivation to discuss
this topic, now that the show is in its final season and apparently the couples
composition was already established (LS). A couple of Swarkles interviewed said
that they do not discuss about “Shipping” with friends: one convinced all her
friends that Barney & Robin is the better couple, thus, “the topic does not comes
to light anymore” (FM); the other said that her friends who also like the show
prefer Ted & Robin, thus, to avoid discussion, they usually talk about others
aspects of the show (LH). Almost half of the respondents (47%) do not take this
kind of discussion out of the group either.
We realize that “Shipping” discussion is not so usual outside the group. Most
interviewees also said that they usually do not share Couple’s related content in
the group’s wall. However, when they see a discussion between Shippers, they
engage depending on “the level of absurd commented” (FM, AT). When we asked
respondents about what reasons led people to discuss about their couple’s pref-
erences related to fictional character, several motivations were raised: identity
with characters (14%), trying to convince others (8%), expose of an opinion
(8%), displeasure with story of the show (6%), etc.
A possible explanation for the above findings is that people tend to avoid
conflict offline, where discussion and possible aggressive outcomes have a high
costs. Even more if the offline discussion usually happens with relatives or close
friends. In the virtual space, however, as opinions are broadcast in a common
space, it becomes harder to avoid conflict. On the other hand, it is also clear that
the conflict generated in the community is tractable, as there are few episodes
of aggression between groups. This suggests that the architecture of the virtual
space plays a role in conflict generation and administration.
The architecture consists in the set of hardware and software features that
defines and regulates the actions that can be performed [5]. Therefore, we be-
lieve that the architecture of Facebook groups favors these two kinds of Shippers
“find” themselves: there is a public space where users can post content unsu-
pervised (video, photo or text); all content published in that space is visible to
everyone in the group; and people can like and comment posts, according their
interests. Thereby, Mosbatsky are exposed to Swarkles content and vice versa.
The discussions happen because “some members of the group cannot ignore when
they disagree” (PR, LR). That is when fights start. One interviewee, for exam-
ple, created a post asking Mosbatsky if they felt pursued in the group (like a
virtual bullying) and asked for Swarkles not interact (PR11). Sometime later,
Swarkles started to comment the post and verbally attack the author claiming
that what was in the collective space may be commented by anyone. In addition,
the architecture of communication through Facebook allows misinterpretations
and overreactions.
Since these discussions take place in a public space, other members of the
group, who identify themselves (identity-based affective commitment) as Ship-
pers, enter and take one side. This way, the amount of people participating in
the discussion rises (sometimes, people tag others with the same ideology in the
discussion). Preece and Maloney-Krichmar [7] states that people feel empathy
for others with similar taste. Thus, supported by the collective power and by
the safety of online interaction, people get upset and some users lose the line,
starting to offend the rival group (strangers, innocent, deluded, were some of the
adjectives used by interviewees to describe people who cheer for a rival couple).
In Facebook groups, people and their thoughts are represented by what they
write and do; thus, misinterpretations can initiate long ideological discussions.
The characteristics of online interaction that facilitate participation, also favor
the conflict between Shippers, they are: anonymity, ease of entry and exit and
ambiguity of written language [Kraut & Resnick 2010]. Due to these architectural
features, Facebook groups become a propitious environment to this discussion
happens [7].
We inquiry respondents if they believe that the way how Facebook groups
works facilitate that Shippers of different couples find each other to discuss:
92% agreed. However, when we asked if a changing in that way would reduce or
eliminate these discussions from the group, 58% disagree. This means that, they
believe, even architecture having its effect, these discussions would come to light
anyway, regardless the way how the group works.
These are recurring discussions on HIMYM Brazil, one poster jokes “soon,
it will have another topic, with the same content, and almost same comments”
(ML11). According interviewees, a Shipper’s discussion only stops when becomes
too much exhausting and people get tired of defend their positions. Usually, this
begins when the discussion attracts too much attention and the number of people
involved rises. Then, comments rate start to increase together with mean size
of comments (FM). Finally, people loose focus and change the topic to “zoeira”
(a Brazilian word that means a state in a discussion where all statements are
jokes) (FM, IT). Respondent’s answers led to the same observations; “get tired
of discuss” (28%) followed by “change the topic to zoeira” (24%) were the two
main reasons to end a discussion.
6 Conclusion
7 Acknowledgments
We want to thank people who answered our questionnaire and all the people
who devoted a few minutes so we could interview them.
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