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ANTONIA CANDELA
Cents de lnvestigacidn y Estudios Avanzados
INTRODUCTION
Traditional work on classroomdiscourseestablishesthe teacher-directedinterac-
tional sequence,the Initiation-Response-Evaluation (IRE),* as one of the more
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familiar features of classroom talk (Cazden, 1986; Mehan, 1979; Wells, 1993).
These studies often assume that the IRE structure allows teachers to control
classroom discourse, because they are the ones who ask the questions, orient the
students’ responses, and evaluate their answers(Leith & Myerson, 1989; Sinclair
& Coulthard, 1975).3
Teacher control has been frequently mentioned as an inhibitor of students’
ideas (Edwards & Furlong, 1978; Edwards & Mercer, 1987). It has been sug-
gested that this control is a mechanismthat causesstudentsto develop compe-
tence in giving the “correct” answer, rather than in looking for an explanation
(Holt, 1969). For this reason, teacher control in classroomdiscoursehas been
seen as a force that works against reflexive education. Reaserchersfrequently
state that the IRE structure is not the best way to facilitate the goal of increasing
student understandingof curricular topics.
In this article I want to make a contribution to the study of the educational
effects of the IRE format by analyzing students’ verbal participation in the ele-
mentary-level science classroomof a shanty town around Mexico City to seeif
IRE always maintains the teacher’spower. For educational purposes,it is impor-
tant to seehow active the studentsare, and whether they are subordinatedto the
teacher’sorientation. My main interest is in analyzing the learners’ contribution
to classroomdiscourseto seewhether they follow what the teacher wants them to
do or if they manipulate the local construction of discourse to seize power in
order to construct their own representationof the curricular topics.
Erickson (1986) postulated that only the teacher has legitimate power in the
classroombecauseof their institutional position and their greater knowledge of
the topic. He explains, however, that the studentshave the power to resist leam-
ing what the teacher wants to teach them. Erickson statesthat this resistancecan
becomea form of power when it changesthe interactional dynamics. In this first
approach, students’ power is defined as resistance to learning (Alpert, 1991;
Willis, 1976). This resistancehasbeen studied asone of the causesof children’s
exclusion from paths that lead toward academic achievement. That is why I am
alsointerestedin analyzing whether the students’resistanceto follow the teacher’s
orientation is necessarilya resistanceto learning.
Most studies of classroomdiscoursefocus the analysis on the teacher’s per-
spective (Cazden, 1986; Wells, 1993). I study the IRE structure from the stu-
dents’perspective, while taking into account that the discursive structure depends
on a negotiation between all the classroomparticipants.
the IRF is the dominant genre in classroom discourse, it could have alternative
functions in the interaction depending on the educational goals and on the spe-
cific tasks of each educational activity. Lemke (1990) focuses his attention on
students’ discourse to find the relationship between their patterns of knowledge
and the patterns of scientific knowledge. Analyzing science classes in secondary
school, he finds that the IRE structure, which he calls triadic dialogue, is the prin-
cipal structure in the classroom, even with modifications. But in his analyses, he
also finds situations where the pattern of interaction is that of a debate, and then
the IRE structure is broken.
Hicks (1996, pp. 17-18) states that since the publication of the Cazden review
(1986), recent works on classroom discourse, especially those with a neo-
Vygotskian orientation, have found deviations from the norm of the IRE structure
as a standard feature of teachers’ practice and as a descriptive feature of educa-
tional researchers’ analysis. These studies reveal the complexity and unruliness
of classroom discourse structure as much as its order and systematicity. They
analyze language use in classrooms as overlapping, sometimes confusing, and
often indeterminate. It is frequently found that teachers revoice students’ com-
ments and that students can have the same agentive footing in the interaction as
the teacher and often even have the last word. These new studies open the possi-
bility of understanding the multiple and simultaneous processes happening in the
classroom. We can consider this discourse structure not as a simple one-to-one
interaction, but rather as a sociocultural ecology (Erickson, 1996) to which all
participants contribute. The special issue of Linguistics and Education edited by
Green and Dixon (1993) has interesting articles on institutional and classroom
discourse positions and positionings, different interactional classroom models
(Gutierrez, 1993), influences on students’ participation (Heras, 1993), and the
social construction of content areas. These studies show the complex discursive
and social actions of all the classroom participants.
Taking into account that deviation from the IRE structure in classroom dis-
course is actually a well known phenomenon, the purpose of this article is to
examine whether the IRE structure always means that the teacher has control or
whether the students can manage to seize local power and wield it to defend their
versions of the educational topics within this discourse format.
For the detailed analysis of the classroom discursive interaction, I have chosen
the approach to discourse analysis of Edwards and Potter (1992). I use conversa-
tional analysis tools such as preference patterns to study how students’ participa-
tion influences the following turns of classroom talk, as well as to examine the
interactional dynamics and construction of knowledge in science classes (Candela,
1993,1995,1997a, 1999).
The idea of preference has been developed in conversational analysis to char-
acterize those conversational events where the participants can choose among sev-
eral alternative and non-equivalent actions (depending on the lexical choice, the
design of the phrase, or the sequence of action), (Sacks, 1973). Pomerantz (1984)
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analyzes one kind of preference structure: the various ways second turns of talk
agree or disagree with prior turns. She finds a number of special rules as to how
the first and second assessments act. The second assessment is one that takes
place after a first assessment. In this article I make reference to the property of
preference structure that states: if the second assessment does not act as an imme-
diate acceptance (no hesitation) of the previous turn, its function is that of denial
of it.
I have known the school since 1985 when I visited it two or three days a week
for one year to observe thirteen teachers’ classroom practices. The data reported
in this paper was collected during 1992. The neighborhood community is made
up of recent immigrants to the city from rural towns who maintain some of their
traditions, for example, their food preferences and some festivities. Most of them
have a lower class status and work in the informal sectors of the economy. Most
of the teachers of the school were young people with few years of teaching expe-
rience, but with strong interest in improving their teaching practice, even though
they have not had any special training. For this paper, I made recordings of nor-
mal everyday lessons. It was the first time I worked with these teachers.
The following discourse analysis is based on transcriptions of the audio tape
recordings, with special notation (Edwards & Potter, 1992),5 complemented by
ethnographic notes and some visual information taken from the video tape. As
the original data are in Spanish I had to translate them into English and adapt the
special notation to the differences in semantics. The original transcriptions are
presented immediately after each extract for analytical purposes and to facilitate
the text for Spanish readers. The ethnographic approach of the whole project
allowed me to have helpful information about the classrooms context for the
interpretation. The conversational analysis machinery permited a detailed study
of turn sequences to describe the work done at each turn in the discursive con-
struction of everyday interactions (Pomerantz, 1984; Sacks, 1973, 1992; Sacks,
Schegloff, & Jefferson, 1974).
Extract 1:
147 B,,: lead.
148 T: 5s lead hea::vier? (2)
149 why: ?
150 B: oh:: no:: (@he tone suggests a retraction))
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Extract0 1:
147 Ao,,: el plomo
148 Ma: *el plomoesm8spesado:?(2)
149 por &?
150 Ao: ay no:: ((por el tono parece coma que se retracta))
151 Ao,,: porquetienem8smate::ria?
152 Ma: [si:::?
153 Aa: [mfismateria
154 Ao,,: no:: (.) el plomocasinozeta (.) maestra
155 Ma: >el plomono pesamcho<
156 Aos: ja ja ja ja ja::: ((mirando a Ao,,))
157** Ao,: TAMPOCO EL ACERO
teacher’s discourse to make contributions that may counter the teachers’ orientation.
The children negotiate their versions, reasoning about the possible answers even
within the bounds of an IRE discourse structure, and being able, at the same time, to
reject the teacher’s orientation. That is to say, sometimes they follow the IRE struc-
ture, but in a sophisticated way that takes advantage of its functional ambiguity,
which enables them to avoid complying with the teacher’s implied preference.
In line 157, the boy openly rejects the teacher’s assertion (of line 155) on a
discursive action that plays an evaluative function. This move made by a student
in order to defend his version not only implies negotiation of the different propo-
sitions under discussion, but also negotiation in spite of the teacher’s position of
power and her control of the discourse sequencing patterns. It is interesting to
notice that the child appropriates the same argument used by the teacher against
lead, and uses it against steel. If classroom asymmetry is based on the teacher
being the one who knows, while the students do not know, in this example some
students seem to question that asymmetry by not following the teacher’s request
to change their answers.
Even when student participation is not so active, they do not always accept the
teacher’s version. There are also situations where the students openly give an
answer that is contrary to what the teacher explicitly demands. The next extract is
part of a 5th grade class following the textbook lesson on combustion. Before the
selected sequence, the group has discussed the importance of fire in the history of
humanity. Later the teacher comments on the role of friction in the production of
heat. Then a few activities that are proposed in the text are carried out, such as an
experiment to see “WHAT:: does fire produce apart from light and heat?”
Children observe a glass that covers a lit candle and follow the teacher’s ques-
tions that attempt to guide them to the conclusion that water is produced during
the combustion. The dominant structure of this part of classroom discourse is that
of IRE as it is oriented by the teacher and followed by the students. The last part
of the lesson is another experimental activity in which the teacher asked the chil-
dren to see the difference between lime water put in a glass with recently burned
cotton, and lime water in another glass where there is a piece of cotton which has
not been burned. In this case, the teacher not only suggested an answer by various
implicit discursive mechanisms, but he directly said that they should see the dif-
ference between more and less transparent water. He was just requesting confir-
mation of this fact from the students. Nevertheless, throughout a sequence of 73
lines in which the teacher insisted that they should see the difference, he got
responses from only five students. Everyone denied that they could see what he
suggested they should see.
Extract 2:
918 * ((The teucher is preparing the two glasses with lime water; one
919 * with a piece of burned cotton and the other with an unburnt
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Extract0 2:
918 * ((el maestro echa agua de cal en dos vasos, uno con un algodo’n
919 * quemado y otro sin quemal: Muchos niAos bromean entre ellos))
920 * MO: y ahora si:: (2) vamos a ver que diferencia hay
921 entre las & aguas de Cal(.) si? (3) EST0 ES
922 para que no digan ustedes que el algodon se
923 de:spi:nto:: (.) que el algodon (.) hizo (.) que
924 el agua de cat se pusiera::: lechosa sino que fue
925 exclusivamente la combusti6n (2) “de este lado::
926 (5)
927 => Aoj: NO SE VE::::
928 As: je:: je::
929 MO: de este lado (.) esta casi transparente el agua de
930 cal Javier (2) si:?
931 => Aoj: no[::::
932 MO: [y de este lado se ve mas blanco (2) a pesar de
933 que tie[ne pedazos de papel quemado (2) y vamos a
934 =>* Ao: [yo no veo maestro
935 * ((hay otros comentarios incomprensibles pero el maestro
936 * no deja de hablar))
937 * MO: pasar por sus lugares para que 10s vean (2) si?
938 * vamos a poner aqui (2) un poquito m&s de agua de
939 * cal (4) ahi esta::: vamos (.) a pasar por aca
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1987), modifies the asymmetry that gives the teacher the power to determine the
orientation of students’ discursive interventions. The teacher, with all of his insti-
tutional power, cannot use it to control students if they refuse to accept it and to
follow his indications.
In these examples we see that an IRE discourse structure where the teacher
is the questioner, the students answer, and the teacher evaluates, does not guar-
antee the teacher’s control over classroom discourse, since the content of the
children’s responses (whether verbal or non-verbal) may not correspond to
what the teacher is evidently trying to obtain. Therefore, even in IRE exchanges
where the teacher is in the position of being the questioner and the evaluator,
one cannot be sure that the children’s ideas will be inhibited, and that the teacher
is in control of children’s knowledge.
Extract 3:
55 * T: OK (2) let’sput iron (.) basedon the
56 majorityopinion,laterwe’ll continuethe list=
57 = > B: =how canwe knowif now it’s:: right?
58 T: let’ssee(2) canyou comeup Ruben(.) to put
59 the secondone?
Extract0 3:
55 * MO: bueno(2) pongamos el fierro (.) por mayoria
56 deopiniones,luegovamosa hater unalista=
57 = > Ao: =cbmo vamosa sabersi ya es&?:bien?
58 MO: a ver (2) t6 Rubentli pasas(.) a ponerla
59 segunda?
In this casethere is an interesting question of a child who not only rejects the
teacher’s statementby not producing an explicit acceptance(Pomerantz, 1984),
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but who also openly expresses his doubts about its correctness, even when the
teacher provides an account for it with the majority opinion’s argument. The stu-
dent asks for a criterion to validate or refuse the teacher’s version, implicitly
questioning the teacher’s position as the one who knows and therefore as the one
who is in control of the academic content of the lesson. indirectly he is also ques-
tioning the criterion of majority of opinions, which the teacher has used as a justifi-
cation of the legitimacy of his version. With this question, the boy also sets himself
up as one who can request accounts, a position that is generally reserved for the
teacher. This interesting question casts doubts on Cazden’s (1986) claim that stu-
dents only ask questions on procedures.* The teacher in this example does not give
any attention to this intervention and thus constructs the child’s intervention as
inconvenient or inadequate. The teacher’s turn (lines 58-59) is also a manifestation
of a refusal to give the control of the next turn to the student (SacksJ992).
The question on line 57 seems to be another example of the existence of cer-
tain moments when the students show, by their ways of intervening, that they do
not necessarily accept the teacher’s control and the implied role of being igno-
rants. They present themselves as having knowledge of the topic and a right to
defend a different position by not accepting the teacher’s version.
The following example, taken from the first class on gravity in another 5th
grade group, illustrates the relevant collective evaluative participation of the stu-
dents in classroom discourse and the importance they attach to the opinion of
their peers. This sequence starts with the teacher’s questions and the students’
answers, and then proceeds to reading the textbook.
Extract 4:
1 T: OKAY (.) do you knowwho investigatedall this
2 aboutavity? or who gaveusall
3 thisof whatgravity is?
4 B: [no::
5 G: [whenChristopher[Colombu:::straveled
6 Ch: [Bu:::::
7 ((lots of children shout makingfin of her))
8 T: let’s see,tell us,we aregoingto seeif it
9 is right (2) whenChristopherColombus
10 traveled(.) whatelse? (7)
11 ((the girl doesn ‘t say anything))
12 T: gravity , or the termgravity (.) wasproposedby
13 (4) ((she takes the textbook and reads it
14 silently for some seconds))
1.5 T: he wasan Englishman ca:lle:d(4)
16 ((she writes Isaac on the blackboard))
17 G: 1saa::::c ((reading from the blackboard))
18 ‘I? Isaac Newton (2) they tell (2) who knows if
19 it’s true (.) that mister Newton was in the
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Extract0 4:
1 Ma: BUENO (.) y saben ustedes quien investig6 todo eso
2 de la graveda::d ?, o quien nos di6 Csto de lo
3 que es la gravedad?
4 Ao: [no:::
5 Aa: [cuando viajo Cristobal Col6:::n
6 => As: Oa::::h!
7 ((muchos niiios y niiias comentan en tono de but-la))
8 Ma: a ver, cuentanos, a ver si esta bien (2)
9 cuando viaj6 Cristobal Colon (.) qut? (7)
10 Aa: ((se queda callada))
11 Ma: la gravedad, o el termino gravedad, lo expuso
12 (4) ((toma el Libro de Text0 y lee unos segundos en silencio))
13 Ma: era un ingles que se 1la:ma:ba: (4)
14 ((escribe Issac en el pizarrdn))
15 Aa: 1ssa::::c ((leyendo en el pizarrdn))
16 Ma: Issac Newton (2) c&tan (2)
17 quien sabe si sea cierto (.)
18 que el seiior Newton estaba en el campo (3)
19 ((Se oye hablar a varios alumnos en la parte de at&))
20 Ma: ya saben la historia?
21 Aa,,: Cl decia que la Tierra era redonda...
22 => As: Oa::::::h!
23 => Ao: [Norma si sabe la histo::ria
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24 Aa: [Norma
2.5 Ma: Norma (Au,,) cuentanos
26 Aa,,:((Se quedu cullada))
27 > As: ella dijo que se le cay6 una manzana
28 ((dicen ins vecinos de Aa23))
29 Ma: Newton estaba en el campo y vio que una manzana
30 caia de un arbol...se pregunto ipor quC al
31 desprenderse la manzana cae el suelo y no se va
32 volando?
33 ((algunos Aos se rien))
34 Ma: ...en su investigation Cl sac6 que eso era por una
3.5 fuerza a distancia que se llama fuerza de gravedad
36 y que va a estar atrayendo todas las cosas hacia
37 el centro de la Tierra.
The teacher’s first question (lines 1, 2, and 3) has two overlapping answers.
One is a “no” and the other is a comment from a girl about the voyage of Christo-
pher Columbus (line 5). But in line 6, several studentsinterrupt the girl with a
joking chorus of “Bu::::::.” This gibe at the girl’s answer, clearly evaluative,
results in the girl’s stopping what she was going to say. The students’ chorus
functioned interactionally asa negative evaluation, as a refusal.
Nonetheless,the teacher’sfollowing turn is a positive evaluation, revoicing the
girl intervention, trying to encourage her to continue and even making it clear
that shewill be evaluated when shefinishesher version (Let’s see,tell us, we are
going to seeif it is right (2) when Christopher Colombus traveled (.) what
else? (7)). This intervention by the teacher also rejects the comments from the
rest of the group that made the girl interrupt herself. That is to say, the teacher
also takes the childish joking comment as a denial, and works to counteract it
with a positive evaluation and encouragement.It is interesting to note then that in
this casethere are two evaluations on the girl’s intervention, and that thesecom-
pete becausethey have opposite orientations.
Nevertheless,in spite of the encouragementfrom the teacher for her to com-
plete her unfinished sentence, and a long pause of 7 seconds, the girl refuses to
continue her intervention. In this casesilence also seemsto be a way for the girl
to reject the teacher’sinsistenceon her participating. Between the negative evalu-
ation of her peersand the positive encouragementfrom the teacher,the girl seems
to act discursively by giving more power to her peers.That is to say, the collec-
tive responseof her peershasmore interactional potency than the teacher’sopin-
ion. So it seemsthat there is an asymmetry in favor of the social consensus
amongstpupils, whose influence on the discursive dynamic seemsto be stronger,
at least in this case,than the teacher’sorientation.
In line 24 the studentsagain collectively evaluate the intervention of another
girl by mocking her.
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This interactionally negative evaluation also leads this other girl to interrupt
herself. But also at this point the studentsnot only refuse the intervention of G,,,
but immediately after, in line 25, they proposea different girl’s (Norma’s) answer
as adequate.
That is, the children, as a group, may reject (interactionally) an answer and
propose another, with no intervention by the teacher. The students ask for
Norma’s private comment to be socially and publicly legitimized. Faced with
Norma’s refusal to participate, the children socially revoice the girl’s private
comment, and say out loud what shesays asa whisper. The teacher also picks up
on the students’orientation and invites Norma to openly participate.
Theseinterventions by the children in lines 25, 26, and 29 correspondto a dis-
cursive phenomenon studied by Shiffrin (1993), that of speaking for another.
Shiffrin finds that this interactive move may have a negative meaning, as occurs
in butting in, or denying someonetheir proper place. But it may alsohave a posi-
tive influence asa reinforcement for the other person,by indicating that his or her
position is shared.In this casethe students,in addition to sharing Norma’s posi-
tion, keep Norma in the main interactional slot, respecting her rights asthe origi-
nal source of the idea by mentioning her in each intervention. Shiffrin finds that
this move of speakingfor another producesrealignmentsin the way participants
relate to eachother. In this case,it seemsthat the students,by promoting Norma’s
private comment to the public arena,jointly endorsethat version as though say-
ing that they know “the stories” as well.
In this section I have shown that studentsparticipate by evaluating their peers
and the teacher’sversions (by displaying approvalsas well asdenials). Repeated
negative evaluationsby the studentscan force the teacher to justify her idea or to
develop better argumentsto convince the students.This situation placesthe stu-
dents in control of turn-taking. But the children also evaluate themselvesand
their peers,sometimeseven in opposition to the teacher’sevaluations.Also it can
be seenin the analysis that theseinterventions sometimeshave even more influ-
ence on the next turn than the teacher’s orientation. When we examine the fine
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detail of recorded interaction, we find that the students’ can influence the dis-
course content, and the person who may participate in next turn, and thus gain
some power over the process of classroom talk.
DISCUSSION
This study shows that students’ participation in classroom discourse is active and
complex and does not always follow the teacher’s attempts to control discourse
content. The analysis shows the importance of the students’ interventions, and
their influence on the discursive dynamics in the classroom. Some reflections can
be made about the construction of local power in the examples I have analyzed.
I have shown that students can break away from the teacher’s control even
when the discursive structure has the IRE form. They do this by denying the
teacher’s orientation, by refusing to participate, or by defending alternative ver-
sions of particular topics. In their responses, the children make use of their rela-
tive autonomy to decide whether or not they follow teacher’s orientation,
depending on the academic task and their opinion about the specific topic content
they are working on. When the answers to the teacher’s questions do not follow
the teacher’s orientation, the teacher maintains the position of the one that make
the questions in the IRE structure but he/she cannot control the content of the stu-
dents interventions.
There are also various examples of situations where the IRE form is main-
tained but the students take the role of asking evaluative questions and of evaluat-
ing others’ turns, thus reversing interactive roles. In the process, they appropriate
those functions through which the teachers develop their power to influence the
discourse of others. Children evaluate previous turns of the teacher and peers,
individual versions, and collective positions. They can do so either individually
or collectively. With these interventions, they are able to confront institutional
authority. Students’ evaluations create new conditions of relevance for the fol-
lowing turns. When their evaluations take the form of collective utterances,
which are presented as a social consensus, they can have an even greater influ-
ence on next turn than the teacher’s orientation. In these cases, the power asym-
metry shifts over to the students’ side, as they manage to alter the roles and local
relationships. Hence, it seems that with some of their interventions the students
influence, and even control, the dynamic of the classroom interaction.
Nevertheless, this discursive orientation of the children does not seem to be a
resistance to learning, as this has been defined by some authors (Alpert, 1991;
Erickson, 1986; Willis, 1976). Before the activity described in extract 2 the class
did an experiment to see the production of water during combustion. During this
sequence, the students followed the teacher’s instructions and content interpreta-
tions. Only later, when they are faced with the next activity (extract 2), was there
a general refusal to accept the observation that the teacher wanted them to
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tional signals (as discourse timing, rhythm, intensity tone, emphasis, or sequen-
cial positioning) and on the various contextualizing cues (Gumpertz, 1977). I
have shown an important influence of the content significance for the partici-
pants, over the social structure of participation. This relation has not been well
studied, thus this work tries to make a contribution in this point.
The fact that students influence discourse does not mean that comments by
teachers are equivalent in status to those of students. It can be seen, for example,
that the teachers’ refusals make some students correct their position in the fol-
lowing turn, while student refusals do not generally modify the teacher’s version.
Nevertheless, on occasions, pupils comments do make teachers justify them-
selves, or lead them to use alternative devices in order to be convincing. How-
ever, teachers usually maintain the initiative in stating discourse topics, setting
the structure for the task, and evaluating the interventions of the children. Only in
some cases do students act on their own initiative, and only occasionally do they
evaluate the teachers’ interventions, although they evaluate the positions of their
peers more frequently. Teachers almost always ask questions, and frequently
‘know’ the answers, while when students ask questions they do not usually know
the answers.9
An asymmetry exists, but this asymmetry is continuously being negotiated,
reinforced, manipulated or even inverted rather than merely being imposed or
denied. Even when the teacher guides the classroom discourse the children are
not subordinated to him/her. I have assumed that power is not only coercion, but
is rather the competence to make other participants accept one’s own version and
to orient the discourse dynamics. This local power can be based on teachers’
interventions or on students’ turns, even when the students do not answer.
In the examples I analyzed, there is no struggle to displace the main power,
but there is a negotiation between different versions of knowledge that empowers
to those participants who manage to influence in the next turns and eventually
to construct a consensual position in the class. So, I found that local power is
constructed around a real interest in knowledge, a collective commitment to try
to understand. Students do not show a resistance to learning. They resist to
accept some versions that they do not share or those orientations that are not
convincing for them.
The appropriation that students make of the terminology of scientific knowledge
and of discursive resources while arguing in favor of their own versions casts doubt
upon the statement made by Wertsch (1991, p. 138) that scientific language, official
science in the classroom, leads to the use of forms of speech that imply patterns of
privilege and of reproduction of cultural capital, in a Bernstenian sense. This did not
happen with these children even though they were from a disadvantaged environ-
ment, where it can be assumed that there was little familiarity with scientific culture.
From the analyses carried out it can be said that the asymmetry of power in the
classroom seems to appear on two levels:
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Looking at the methodological and theoretical reflections, this study also sug-
gest that question rules (Sacks, 1992), preference structure, and adjacency pairs
(Pomerantz, 1984; Sacks, Schegloff, & Jefferson, 1974) operate in a more gen-
eral way in the classroom than the IRE structure, as well as subsuming patterns
such as the IRE structure to more familiar patterns of everyday talk. This could
be an evidence that claims about differences between school and everyday dis-
course have been exaggerated (Bernstein, 1981; Mehan, 1979; Sinclair & Coul-
thard, 1975). From the analyses I can also say that the discourse structure (IRE in
this case) does not define who is in control of classroom interaction.
A point can be raised about the differences between results such as these that
show significant student participation in classroom discourse, and those of the
previous studies (Cazden, 1986). Some researchers claim that the more active and
powerful participation of children in classroom discourse is a consequence of
changes in teachers’ style of instruction (Erickson, 1996). Another explanation
may be that students’ active interventions have always been part of normal inter-
action, but that only now can we appreciate them, given the maturity of the
research field and the Vygotskian theoretical approach (Erickson, 1996). Another
hypothesis is that differences may come from cultural influences on the everyday
practices of teachers. I also want to emphasize the importance of the theoretical
and methodological approach to be able to appreciate the complex processes that
take place in the interaction. The potentiality of the conversational analytical
tools, as the preference structure, combined with the ethnographic perspective
that allows to have a bigger context than the extract, for the interpretation of the
participants’ interventions and the careful analysis of the academic content, dis-
play detail information about the classroom discourse that is not always taken
into account. Whatever the cause, I believe that this study has shown that it is
important to take the students’ perspective in studying classroom discourse and
also has shown the potentiality of the theoretical approach I have used.
NOTES
1. An earlier version of this paper was presented with the title “Discursive construction of power
in school practice” at the session “Discourse and school practices: Some issues and perspectives”
organized by Ana Luiza Smolka at the Fourth Congress of the International Society for Cultural
Research and Activity Theory held in Denmark, June 7-l 1, 1998. Important parts of the ideas and the
analysis are taken from research that I did in 1995 under the supervision of Derek Edwards entitled
“Rhetoric and discourse of students: Classroom science.” I thank him for his instructive and important
orientations. I thank my colleagues Ruth Mercado and Rupert Wegerif for their comments and spe-
cially Elsie Rockwell for her relevant observations. I also thank the anonymous reviewers for their
critical comments and their helpful opinions and orientations.
2. The IRE structure was described by Mehan (1979), and by Sinclair and Coulthard (1975) in
the form of Initiation-Response-Feedback (IRF). This postulation has had enormous influence on
later works in analysis of school discourse.
3. For Edwards and Mercer (1987), the teachers’ questions for which they already know the
answer is one of the characteristic ground rules of classroom discourse.
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4. Wells (1993) uses the IBP structure instead of the IBE to emphasize the feedback or follow
up function of the teacher’s intervention after an answer, instead of looking at it as an evaluation.
5. Some special transcript notation:
T: teacher
B: boy
G: girl
Ch: several children at the same time
A Marks rising shifts in intonation
/ Marks falling shifts in intonation
> Indicates significant utterance for the analysis
’ ’ Indicates a passage of talk quieter than the surrounding talk
CAPS Indicates a passage of talk louder than the surrounding talk
* Indicates background noise of children murmuring or talking to each other
** Indicates higher background noise
< > Indicates a passage of talk quicker than the surrounding talk
> < Indicates a passage of talk slower than the surrounding talk
(3) Indicates a silence pause of more or less 3 seconds
(.) Indicates a short untimed silence
[ Indicates the beginning of overlapping talk
:: Indicates elongated syllable
= Equal signs are latching symbols
Underlining shows vocal stress or syllable emphasis
(z Double parentheses enclose transcriber comments
,?. Indicates pitch level rather than sentence type
6. Schegloff (1984, p. 51) analyzes the problem of ambiguity proposing that “the finding that
the ‘same sentence’ or ‘same component’ can have ‘different meanings’ across the imagined range of
scenarios is the kernel of the problem of ambiguity.” He adds that “it is because actual participants in
actual conversations do not encounter utterances as isolated sentences, and because they do not
encounter them in a range of scenarios most theoretically or heuristically depictable ambiguities
do not ever arise.” The multi-party talk of a classroom allows the ambiguity to appear with excep-
tional clarity, where different functional meanings may be given to a certain phrase through its uptake
by different participants.
7. Each time the teacher says on this side, he is showing one glass and later he shows the other
glass trying to make visible the differences between the lime water of the two glasses.
8. Cazden (1986) summarizes children’s interventions is classroom discourse thus: ‘“The chil-
dren never give instructions to the teacher and seldom ask questions that do not refer to procedures or
authorizations. The only context in which they can switch interactive roles with the same intellectual
content, giving instructions as well as obeying them, and asking questions and answering them, is the
context of their classmates” (p. 670, emphasis added).
9. With the exception of those situations in which the students’ questions are used as a way of
refusing a version or a previous turn position, as I have shown some examples in this paper.
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