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Statement of Evidence Form (SEF) Minor Asylum Interview

Applicant will be recorded

Yes No

Explanation of Procedures
I will record my questions and your replies. I may ask you to slow down or
repeat your answers. If you do not understand or hear a question, please tell
me and I will repeat or clarify or rephrase it. After the interview you will receive
a copy of the interview transcript.

Audio Recording
Your asylum interview will be recorded, and you will receive a copy of the
transcript after the interview. If you have a legal representative, they will be
sent a copy of the audio via a secure portal if they have signed up to the
MoveIT system, or you can request a copy of the audio to be sent to you or
your rep on an encrypted USB device which will be sent by recorded delivery.

Interview start time: Mon Apr 07 2025 12:38 PM

Interviewer's name: K. Murray
Office location
Liverpool Capital Building

Room number / Mobile DIM Number

Remote -
applicant is
at Eaton
House

Is this interview being conducted by video conferencing?

Yes No

UAN (Unique Application Number)

1212-0099-0260-8670

Port Reference

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Home Office Reference

Is this interview a continuation of one that was previously ended?

Yes No

Interview type
Asylum IV

Date and scheduled start time of interview

Mon Apr 07 2025 1:00 PM

Enter any reason for a delay to the start of the interview

Claimant's name
Nur Alsalibi

Claimant's date of birth

01/08/2006

This date of birth is disputed

Claimant's nationality
the Russian Federation

Does the claimant have any other nationality?

Yes No

Home Office Interpreter used

Yes No

Interpreter ID validated

Yes No

Nature of ID evidence
HO profile form

Language of Interview
Russian

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Language dialect spoken by claimant

Russian

Home Office Interpreter Personnel Number

465563

Introduce yourself and any interpreter

Introduction given

Name of Legal Representative / Firm

Claimant's / Legal Representative's Interpreter

Confirm identity of interviewee

Yes No

Has the claimant received an ARC card?

Yes No

Is the claimant content that their name, DOB and nationality are
accurately recorded on the ARC card?

Yes No

Nature of identity evidence

ARC card/photo likliness

Can you see / hear me and the interpreter (if interpreter used) okay?

Yes No

Do you understand the interpreter?

Yes No

Are you content to be interviewed in Russian?

Yes No

Are you feeling well enough to be interviewed today?

Yes No

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Are you content with the person acting as the responsible adult?

Yes No

Are you happy to continue with the interview?

Yes - Applicant is over 18
Name of Responsible Adult
Applicant Is Over 18

Relationship to main applicant

Applicant is over 18
What is your current immigration status in the UK (not applicable if
social worker)?

eVisa Claimant Personal Contact Detail - to be read out at every

interview
As the claimant is a child at the time of this interview, if they are granted
status, we will create a UKVI account utilising the details of the Responsible
Adult. This will enable them to access their eVisa online where they can prove
their status and access support services. Please provide your email address,
which is mandatory for account creation, and your mobile number.

Failure to provide an email and phone number may impact on our ability to
create a UKVI account, and may impact on your ability to access support
services. It is important that you inform us if your contact details change in the
future.

Responsible Adult's email address

salibi.mour@mail.ru

Responsible Adult's mobile number

07899612046

These details will also be used by the Home Office to contact you
about your asylum claim, and any other immigration related matters.
Can you confirm this email address and phone number are secure and
that you have no concerns with anyone else accessing the
information?

Yes No

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Have you understood everything so far?

Yes No

Decision to Proceed

Yes No

Explanation
Applicant is over 18

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Statements

Are you content that the information you provided at the Welfare
Interview was accurate?

Yes No No Welfare Interview

Please provide further information

Yes, the information is correct but not complete
IO: Can you tell me what is not complete?
I think the interpreter got a few details wrong regarding the reason and also
due to my age i was not aware of certain details
IO: Are you aware what the interpreter got wrong?
the interpreter said if i am not mistaken that i had to leave Russia because i
received threats and cannot return to Palestine because of war and that is
not entirely correct because my family received threats in Russia, mainly y
father around 2-3 years ago and they were threatening me as well and my
father has graduated from miliary school and so he was summoned to
report to military registration and Enlistment
office and at that time i was a minor but now since i am over 18 years of
age i also must report to the same place. If i could also add something,
after we had to leave Russia we went to Gaza and lived there for some time
until the war started again on October 7th, my father was killed and me
and my mum were immigrated to Egypt using our national passports as
Russian citizens we could stay in Egypt for 6 months maximum, we stayed
over 6 months and were granted leave to the UK. I came to the UK with my
mum hoping to assess the war in Gaza but the war is still ongoing, it has
been around 8 months now. My father was killed, my grandfather told my
cousins and other relatives from my father's side our 4 houses in Gaza were
destroyed were we could potentially live.

IO: Thank you for confiming that information and i am sorry to hear baout
what happened to your father.

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Compulsory Statements - to be read out at every interview

The asylum interview is your opportunity to tell us your reasons for

claiming asylum. It is very important you do not withhold any information
you believe to be relevant. I will help you by asking you questions so that
we have the information we need.
I will also, either during or after the interview, make any necessary further
enquiries about the information you provide, the situation in your country
and any other relevant matters.
If I do not understand your responses or need to clarify them, I will give you
a chance to explain.
Some parts of your claim may be difficult to talk about but I will be asking
questions to help you explain what happened to you, so it is important that
you answer with as much detail as you can.
The information you provide about your reasons for seeking asylum will
never be disclosed to your country's government or other authorities in
your country.
If at any time you do not understand me, please tell me immediately and I
will try to make the question clearer.
You can speak to your legal representative/responsible adult at any time
during the interview.
If you want a break during the interview, please let me know. I may also
suggest a break if I think we need to take one.
Please let me know if you are hungry, thirsty or are in physical discomfort
or distress during the interview.
You must not take pictures, video or audio record during this interview.

Use the following statements as required, ticking the box for each
statement read out.
Statement to be read to claimant for interviews conducted via Video
Conferencing
This interview is being conducted by video conferencing. If at any point you
struggle to see or hear me/the interpreter please let me know. I would like to
assure you that the video conference is secure and that no one else can hear
what is discussed. We will treat the information you provide today in
confidence.

Statement to Home Office Interpreter

You must interpret everything that is said during the interview in direct
speech. Please do not change what I say or what the applicant says. You
must tell me if you have any difficulty in understanding and interpreting my
questions or any of the replies. If the applicant starts to speak in another
language or dialect during the interview you must tell me immediately.

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Do you have any documents or other evidence you wish to submit

today? What is their relevance?

Yes No

Relevance Document Name/Type

Yes, I do have my passports and my

birth certificate from Russia/Palestine
and boarding pass from our trip to the Birth certificate - advised I will ask the
UK on the date of arrival. The only staff to take a copy of these
document I cannot supply is the documents before he leaves today.
diploma of my father graduating
medical military school.

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Interview Questions

1. Question (required)
Please could you confirm if you are happy for the information you
provide during your interview today to be shared for your mother’s
asylum claim and decision?
1. Response (required)
Yes, sure

2. Question (required)
I will now ask you some questions about your health and background.
2. Response (required)
Sure

3. Question (required)
Do you have any physical health conditions?
3. Response (required)
No

4. Question (required)
Do you have any mental health conditions?
4. Response (required)
I don't think it is anything serious but after my relatives death, I do
have some sort of depression, I have not consulted a psychiatrist, I
don't think it is that serious

5. Question (required)
Are you registered with a GP in the UK?
5. Response (required)
no, not with a GP. I misunderstood the question, I am registered with a
GP.

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6. Question (required)
Just to confirm you have not been given a diagnosis from the GP is that
correct?
6. Response (required)
No, I have never consulted GP about it

7. Question (required)
I would recommend if you do continue to feel this way or feel you could
be depressed to please speak to your GP about this, okay?
7. Response (required)
okay I understand thank you

8. Question (required)
Do you know the name of your GP?
8. Response (required)
i'm sorry I don't remember the full name, it is in my phone, it is
something like Chapel medical centre

9. Question (required)
Are you studying in the UK?
9. Response (required)
Yes

10. Question (required)

How is that going, are you enjoying it?
10. Response (required)
yes sure I am starting to understand the language now

11. Question (required)

Are you in a romantic relationship?
11. Response (required)
No

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12. Question (required)

Can you tell me what family members you have in the UK currently?
12. Response (required)
I have 2 older brothers and my mother

13. Question (required)

What is your mother’s and brother’s current immigration status’ in the
UK?
13. Response (required)
my mum is also a asylum seeker like myself and my middle brother is
studying in university at the moment, my older brother has graduated
university and is working, my father sent them to get education in the
UK when he was alive

14. Question (required)

Just to confirm are you still living with your mother in the UK at the
Holiday Inn express on Mill Street in Slough?
14. Response (required)
Yes

15. Question (required)

Are you in contact with your brothers in the UK?
15. Response (required)
Yes sure

16. Question (required)

Do you visit them?
16. Response (required)
Yes, sure

17. Question (required)

Do you have any extended family members in Russia?
17. Response (required)
No

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18. Question (required)

Can you tell me what family you have in Palestine?
18. Response (required)
do I need to tell you my family members in Palestine or relatives

19. Question (required)

Can you tell me both please? I don't require names just who you have
there please.
19. Response (required)
I have 3 uncles, 4 auntie's, 1 grandma from fathers side who is alive,
grandmother from mother's side, 7 brother's and 1 sister

20. Question (required)

When you say 7 brother's and 1 sister, is that your brother's and sister?
20. Response (required)
it's my mum's brother's and sister, my uncle's and auntie's

21. Question (required)

Do you know where your extended family members are living in
Palestine?
21. Response (required)
so my father's relatives live in a city called Beit Lahia that is in Gaza
strip as well and they live in Jabalya refugee camp

22. Question (required)

Do your mother's relatives also live here
22. Response (required)
Yes

23. Question (required)

Do you have family members in any other countries?
23. Response (required)
i'm really sorry do you mean family relatives like my close relatives or
anyone who is related to me?

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24. Question (required)

Anyone who is related to you please?
24. Response (required)
my uncle's wife and my cousins live in Egypt, Cairo. My mu's sister lives
in United Arab of Emirates in Sharjah.

25. Question (required)

Please could you confirm your religion including denomination?
25. Response (required)
I am Sunni Muslim

26. Question (required)

Do you or any of your family members have connections to politics or
the government in any country?
26. Response (required)
No, no

27. Question (required)

I will now ask you some questions about your reasons for claiming
asylum, we will come back to these in more detail, later on in the
interview.
27. Response (required)
.

28. Question (required)

Can you briefly explain your reasons for claiming asylum?
28. Response (required)
It is a life threat in both countries of my Citizenship, in Palestine and
Russia, Gaza strip and Russia

29. Question (required)

If you could please tell me your reasons for claiming asylum in Russia?
**Advised if applicant can answer the question and keep it brief as to
his reasons for claiming and not details about his claim as we will be
talking about this later on in more details**

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29. Response (required)

to be brief I can be summoned for military service in Russia and I
received life threats from my father's business partners

30. Question (required)

What do you fear will happen to you if you were to return to Russia?
30. Response (required)
I am scared I will be summoned for military service and my father's
business partners will do anything to me, to explain that better I need
to go into more details

31. Question (required)

I will ask you more about this later on in the interview okay
31. Response (required)
sure

32. Question (required)

Do you have any other fears if you were to return to Russia other than
what you have just told me?
32. Response (required)
not as life threatening situations it is emotionally and mentally
challenging returning to a country where I lived all my life with my
father and brothers

33. Question (required)

Please could you confirm who you fear in Russia?
33. Response (required)
the person who fronted my father and myself is called Syed Djumaevich
unfortunately, I don't know his last name but I am sure you can google
it. He is a general of the airborne forces of Russian federation, he was a
business partner of my father.

34. Question (required)

Please could you confirm what fears you have in Palestine?
34. Response (required)
The war in Gaza strip

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35. Question (required)

Just to confirm is it the general situation and the ongoing war in
Palestine that you fear?
35. Response (required)
Yes, of course because at the moment there are 40,000 in this war and
20,000 are children, I fear for my life but more, my mother's life

36. Question (required)

Can I just check are you still feeling okay or would you like to take a
break?
36. Response (required)
I am fine thank you

37. Question (required)

You have submitted your Russian passport and Palestine travel
document to the HO, please can you confirm you are aware of these
documents?
37. Response (required)
yes I did provide my Russian passport for travelling abroad and also the
travel document for Palestine, I also have my internal Russian passport
with me but I wasn't asked to provide that

38. Question (required)

We may need you to send this passport into the HO but if so, we will
contact your solicitor after the interview okay?
38. Response (required)
Sure

39. Question (required)

You stated you were born in Saint Petersburg in Russia, have you lived
anywhere else in Russia?
39. Response (required)
No only in Saint Petersburg

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40. Question (required)

Please could you confirm, have you always had Russian nationality?
40. Response (required)
No, there was some issues with the document and I did have my birth
certificate and later I did obtain my Russian citizenship

41. Question (required)

Do you have a Russian Birth certificate?
41. Response (required)
Yes I do have a Russian birth certificate

42. Question (required)

What year did you obtain your Russian Citizenship?
42. Response (required)
I hope I am not wrong, it is my passport, I think it was 2016

43. Question (required)

What was your nationality before your Russian Citizenship?
43. Response (required)
sorry if I am wrong, all this information is in my passport, Russian
federation citizenship was my first one, there was a delay in obtaining it
due to some problems with my father's documents, I did not have a
citizenship of Palestine then, I received it afterwards

44. Question (required)

Your Russian passport and Palestine travel document both confirm your
nationality is Russian Federation, is that correct?
44. Response (required)
so those documents do not confirm which citizenship of which country
they are not related, in Russian passport there is no nationality
indication because I was born there and my Palestine, there is no
indication of my nationality because I was born in Russia

45. Question (required)

Do you have any documents of your Palestine citizenship?

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45. Response (required)

yes, I do have a birth certificate from Palestine

46. Question (required)

Do you have both your birth certificate from Palestine and Russia with
you today?
46. Response (required)
I will just check (applicant pulls out documents). I do have my birth
certificate from Palestine but I didn't bring my Russian one, it is at my
accommodation, I thought as I provided my Russian passport that
would be enough to prove my nationality.

47. Question (required)

Just to confirm, you are a dual national from Russia and Palestine, is
that correct?
47. Response (required)
I do have 2 citizenship from Palestine and Russia

48. Question (required)

Apart from your birth certificate and travel document from Palestine, do
you have any other documents from Palestine, for example an ID card?
48. Response (required)
I did have a Palestine ID card but i'm not sure if I still have it after the
war, I can try and look for it and anyway it has expired.

49. Question (required)

Do you remember what the ID card looks like or what colour it is for
example?
49. Response (required)
yes sure it is a card in the green colour and the card itself it bigger than
the UK ID card it is longer and on the side it is a flag of Palestine, it is
sort of framed. Just to confirm once again it is a green cover. Just to
clarify there are 2 languages used on this ID card it is Arabic and Hebru.

50. Question (required)

I think now will be a good time for us to take a break, we will take 15
minutes from 14:20-14:35

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50. Response (required)

.

51. Question (required)

Are you still feeling okay?
51. Response (required)
Yes sure

52. Question (required)

Have you understood everything so far?
52. Response (required)
I spoke with my mum regarding my ID card and she said we do have
birth certificate from Russia and Palestine but my ID card was left at
Gaza strip

53. Question (required)

Have you understood everything so far, before we move on?
53. Response (required)
Yes sure

54. Question (required)

Are you aware where your parents are form in Palestine?
54. Response (required)
do you mean where they are from before 1948 (it was when Palestine
was split into the 2 states in Palestine and Gaza strip, before that it was
one country)

55. Question (required)

Sorry, please could you confirm where your parents were born in
Palestine?
55. Response (required)
Both of my parents were born in Jabalya

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56. Question (required)

Did your parents tell you anything about where they were born or grew
up in Palestine?
56. Response (required)
yes my parents were born and grew up in Jabalya and they went to
school in Jabalya until they moved to Russia

57. Question (required)

What year did your parents move to Russia?
57. Response (required)
my father moved in Russia in 90's I don't know the exact year and then
he got married with my mum and some time in 2000 they moved to
Russia both of them, in 90's my father moved to Russia to become a
medical professional

58. Question (required)

I will now ask you some questions about your problems in Russia, if you
would like a break at any point, please let me know.
58. Response (required)
thank you

59. Question (required)

You have said you and your father received threats in Russia, please
can you tell me about this?
59. Response (required)
so it all started when we lived in Russia permanently, it was summer
2022, I was 15 or 14 years old. My father tried to hide his problems but
even at that age I realised something was wrong and he was receiving
threats form his business partners so fearing for our lives he moves us,
me and mum to the Gaza strip, all his problems were because of some
misunderstanding in his restaurant business

60. Question (required)

you said your father had a restaurant business, when did he open his
business?

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60. Response (required)

he opened his business before I was born, at that time in Russia he
wasn't able to provide for the family receiving the basic wage of a
doctor, he opened a small cafe's whilst he was starting at military
medical academy to provide for the family

61. Question (required)

How many cafe's and restaurants did your father own?
61. Response (required)
by 2014 that was the biggest restaurant chain in Saint Petersburg
unfortunately I don't know how many places that included

62. Question (required)

Do you know the names of your father's cafe's or restaurants?
62. Response (required)
sure I know them and I can also give address' if you like, so they are
first one is, Yamamoto , Haifa, Pimisa, Korol Gambrinus (interpreter
spellings)

63. Question (required)

Are all of these cafe's and restaurants located in Saint Petersburg
63. Response (required)
Yes

64. Question (required)

You said you know the address' can you give me those please?
64. Response (required)
I know 2 address' by heart and I can give you the other 2 if I can
contact my brothers

65. Question (required)

Can you please give me the 2 you know?
65. Response (required)
the first restaurant was located in a big shopping entertainment
complex, Ispytateley Avenue, 7, Pionerskaya metro station.

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66. Question (required)

Can you tell me the 2nd address please?
66. Response (required)
the 2nd one I don't remember the exact street location it is in my phone
but it is located Chyornaya rechka metro station it was opposite the
able academy

67. Question (required)

How was your father able to open up his business' did he do this with
his own money or? **staff from Eaton house has come in to collect
app's documents to be copied - I advised if he could provide his birth
certificate**
67. Response (required)
my mum has the birth certificate outside (IO has explained to Eaton
house staff birth certificate is to be copied from his mum in reception,
confirmed app does not need to provide his boarding pass as he
entered the UK on a visa)

68. Question (required)

How was your father able to open up his business' did he do this with
his own money or?
68. Response (required)
it was opened with the money from my granddad, also my grandmother
helped and of course he has business partners, he did not by
everything himself

69. Question (required)

How many business partners did your father have?
69. Response (required)
I am not able to answer these questions at all, due to my age my father
did not really share any details with me

70. Question (required)

did you ever meet any of his business partners?
70. Response (required)
Yes

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71. Question (required)

do you know the names of any of them?
71. Response (required)
yes I know one of them, he is called Usama Al Kurd he was also from
Palestine

72. Question (required)

Can you tell me what you know about your father's debts?
72. Response (required)
I don't know about the amount, he was hiding this information and
wouldn't share with me but when I was in Palestine, I heard about a
large amount, it was due to the problems after corona virus, it impacted
small restaurant business'.

73. Question (required)

How do you know who your father owes the money to?
73. Response (required)
I've just over heard some telephone conversations about him and my
mum told me some things, I do apologise, I have heard some
conversations with my mum with him

74. Question (required)

Can you tell me what you heard during those conversations?
74. Response (required)
I've heard that he was mentally affected really badly, he was saying
that he was working so hard and now he is in debt and that his partners
took most of the profits and made him to pay tax's on that, he was very
distressed

75. Question (required)

Are you aware what percentage of the business' your father owned?

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75. Response (required)

he didn't have a fixed share of the business , it varied from restaurant
to restaurant, for example he had Yamamoto business and he bought
the shares from his partner and owned the whole business and Haifa -
citi (online as) he owned 50% of the business and his partner was
Usama Al Kurd and in regards to other restaurants, he had 3 partners
for example and his share again was different

76. Question (required)

In regards to your father's debt, did he owe taxes' on all of his
restaurants or just some of them?
76. Response (required)
I think it was the case of most of the restaurants, as far as I am aware

77. Question (required)

Are you aware if any of your fathers business partners were also
receiving threats?
77. Response (required)
I struggle to answer this question, I don't really know them to be aware
of this answer

78. Question (required)

did your father ever tell you anything directly about the threats or the
debt he owed?
78. Response (required)
regarding the threats I heard a lot in Palestine during dinner time when
we were at the table and regarding the debts I don't really remember,
just to confirm again it was in Palestine when we left Russia

79. Question (required)

Were you aware of the threats when you were in Russia?
79. Response (required)
do you mean before we left for Palestine?

80. Question (required)

Before you left for Palestine?

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80. Response (required)

I wasn't aware of my threats when I was in Russia, I was only told why
we left Russia when I was in Palestine, I was born in Russia and wanted
to stay there, it first started just holidays for a couple of weeks in
Palestine but my father told me it is not a holiday we have left Russia
forever because of the threats

81. Question (required)

Are you aware how many occasions your father was threatened whilst
in Russia?
81. Response (required)
No

82. Question (required)

The man who was threatening your father, is he a powerful person in
Russia?
82. Response (required)
yes, he is powerful person because he is a general of the airborne
forces in Russia

83. Question (required)

Was it just this person who was threatening your father or did he also
receive threats form anybody else?
83. Response (required)
that is the only person I know the name of but in regards to the other
people who have threatened my father I only know their nationality and
nothing else

84. Question (required)

What is their nationality?
84. Response (required)
they are from Chechens

85. Question (required)

Whilst you were In Russia, did you personally see anybody threaten
your father?

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85. Response (required)

no, never because I was studying and into sports and I had nothing to
do with his business , my mum knows much more about this but we try
not to raise this topic as it is really sensitive and my father has died so
there is no reason to discuss it anymore

86. Question (required)

Is there anything else you know about the man who was threatening
your father or has your mother told you anything about him?
86. Response (required)
I only heard abut this person once by accident, when it was my friends
event, they said that the place where they went was airfield and this
person is an investor of this airfield

87. Question (required)

how did you know this was the person who was threatening your
father?
87. Response (required)
there was a person who did the speech during this event and he
expressed his gratitude to the person who threatened my father and
that is how I heard his name

88. Question (required)

How did you find out that this was the person who was threatening your
father?
88. Response (required)
my father mentioned his name often in context of their business as his
partner but not in a negative light and when I heard the same name
during that event and later when I asked my friend who was mentioned
because my father also mentioned him, he said it was an investor who
supports this airfield and run way

89. Question (required)

you have told me how you know this person, can you tell me how you
know he was the one threatening your father?

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89. Response (required)

I found out about this person that he threatened my father from my
mum when we came to the UK, before that I only knew him as a person
who was close with my father, I didn't know about him threatening my
father

90. Question (required)

Are you feeling okay?
90. Response (required)
I am absolutely fine

91. Question (required)

Are you aware if your father had ever reported this person/people to
the Russian police or authorities?
91. Response (required)
they said my father had a court case against him during the corona
virus but he found out that Syed Djumaevich bribed the judge and the
hearings were taking place at the time when it was not allowed due to
coronavirus and that he is far too powerful to file a statement against
him so it's pointless

92. Question (required)

How do you know about this court case?
92. Response (required)
it wasn't secret information, my family knew about it and my brothers

93. Question (required)

Does your family have any documents regarding the court case?
93. Response (required)
we were not able to take those documents with us, during the
evacuation we were told by Israel Russian consulator that each person
could only have one back pack so we could only take necessary
documents and money to survive on, I have no idea what happened to
the other documents

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94. Question (required)

You mentioned you and your mother went to Palestine, did your father
remain in Russia before moving to Palestine?
94. Response (required)
no, we left all together at the same time

95. Question (required)

Can you confirm the date you left Russia?
95. Response (required)
i'm sorry I cant remember the exact date, it was summer 2022, there is
a departure date in my passport that I gave to the home office

96. Question (required)

Are you aware how your family was able to leave Russia legally if the
person threatening your father was powerful in Russia?
96. Response (required)
I am not exactly sure but at that time we were leaving Russia, if you
didn't have any outstanding debts you are free to go, there is a
Gosuslugi and you can checks the debts of a person there and if you
owe someone you will be stopped at customs and my father wasn't
before the national draft after the war with Ukraine started everyone
was free to leave unless they owed something, when we were planning
to leave Russia, I know my father had a large amount of debt and it was
on that website and there was a travel ban for him but my middle
brother managed to settle the debt for him so he could leave the
country

97. Question (required)

How was your brother able to settle the debt?
97. Response (required)
my brother was always saving and he always saved the money my
father gave him and that is how he was able to pay. I also know some of
the amount he borrowed from his uni friends

98. Question (required)

Was this money paid to pay of your father's debt or for your family to
leave Russia?

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98. Response (required)

I am not entirely sure I think some was paid to pay of some of the debt
and some of the money to pay for the flights because the boarders
were closed due to the invasion to Ukraine

99. Question (required)

Just to confirm you did not personally receive any threats whilst in
Russia is that correct?
99. Response (required)
me personally no, all the threats were made at my father and at me as
well

100. Question (required)

Did you receive any threats whilst in Palestine?
100. Response (required)
me personally I didn't receive any threats in Palestine but my father did
and his business partners from Chechens called him a lot and were
verbally abusive and threatening to me and the family, especially the
fact he left Russia at the time of the war

101. Question (required)

What happened to your father’s business' after your family left Russia?
101. Response (required)
by 2022, the business was in a very poor state the inly active chain was
the city restaurants , the profit was taken form the business partners
and all the tax or majority of the tax was put of my father's

102. Question (required)

Why would you be at risk on return to Russia and these people as your
father has passed away?

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102. Response (required)

well, I received in direct threats from these people and also, the war
with Ukraine is still ongoing and a lot of guys of my age are being
drafted to war were they die and I cannot get an exemption from army
service because I cannot, i will not obtaining high education. When we
came back to Moscow after evacuation i was asked a lot of questions at
the security service regarding my military ID and if i am starting, i was
over 17 then and i was told once i reach age 18 i must report to military
office. I have incomplete secondary education so without that i cannot
enter the university.

103. Question (required)

It is now 3:55pm and the interview is scheduled to finish at 4pm, please
could you confirm if you are happy to proceed so that I can finish your
interview today?
103. Response (required)
Yes, I am happy to carry on for as long as you need. (5 minute break
taken 3:55pm-4pm)

104. Question (required)

Are you still feeling okay?
104. Response (required)
can I ask if it is my last interview or will I need another one?

105. Question (required)

I will try to ask everything today to finish your interview, okay?
105. Response (required)
that is fine I am ready to stay

106. Question (required)

Are you still feeling okay?
106. Response (required)
of course (app answered in English)

107. Question (required)

Have you understood everything so far?

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107. Response (required)

Yes

108. Question (required)

I will now ask you some questions about military service in Russia
108. Response (required)
sure

109. Question (required)

Is military service compulsary in Russia?
109. Response (required)
Yes, it is very important to say that if after school you don't go to higher
education then you are not exempt from military service

110. Question (required)

At what age are you called up for military service?
110. Response (required)
from the age of 18, you are getting scanned at the age of 16 o 17 to
see if you have a illnesses and if you are fit to serve

111. Question (required)

How are you called up for military service?
111. Response (required)
normally they send summons to the website Gosuslugi or to the post
box, at the moment it's mostly this website through the portal

112. Question (required)

Did you ever receive a letter whilst you were in Russia?
112. Response (required)
no because I was under the age of 18, but I was informed by the
security services that as soon as I reach 18 I must report to the military
service officials and start preparing for the service

113. Question (required)

Do both men and women have to complete military service?

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113. Response (required)

no, only men

114. Question (required)

Are you aware if you have to undergo any training for military service?
114. Response (required)
military service is training itself to prepare for potential war and I know
that even though that's not official information a lot of conscripts are
sent to war in Ukraine, they have a contract to serve and even if you
don't want it you might be sent to war, special military operation

115. Question (required)

How long does military service last in Russia?
115. Response (required)
they need military service for 1 year old, it could change now due to
the war

116. Question (required)

Can you tell me what you know about your father being called up for
military service?
116. Response (required)
because my father is a military medic, him and his colleague that
graduated from medical schools they are all received summons to
serve, and them and their wife's and the majority decision to leave
Russian Federation because a lot of people are forced to go to war
without their consent

117. Question (required)

What year did your father graduate as a military medic?
117. Response (required)
unfortunately, I don't have this information but it was before I was born

118. Question (required)

Are you aware when he was called up for military service, what date or
year?

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118. Response (required)

he received summons, during summertime during 2022 some time
after the special military operations started

119. Question (required)

How long did your father remain in Russia before he left, after receiving
the summons?
119. Response (required)
unfortunately, I cant answer this questions as I am not sure when he
received the summons but I am sure my mum can tell you

120. Question (required)

When you were approached, was this whilst you were still in Russia?
120. Response (required)
it was after the evacuation, we had to go to Russia because we were
Russian citizens and our documents were taken in Egypt and we stayed
in Moscow for 3 days, we came to stay for 3 days and that is when they
asked me

121. Question (required)

When you talk about the evacuation, are you talking about being
evacuated from Palestine after you left Russia in 2022?
121. Response (required)
yes that is right

122. Question (required)

Are you aware how your father was able to leave Russia legally in 2022
if he had been called up for military service?
122. Response (required)
in 2022 when we were leaving the country there was no travel ban for
people who had been conscription or summoned, so people were going
to Finland for example and Russia did not close the borders

123. Question (required)

Do you know any further information about your father being called for
military service, for example what his role would be or where he would
be based?

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123. Response (required)

I don't know where he would be based but he would be a military medic
in the army and he would evacuate the wounded soldiers, regarding to
where he wold be based I would like to say that is information that is
kept in secret and no one would be informed until future where they
would be based

124. Question (required)

I will now ask you some questions about your journey from when you
left Palestine
124. Response (required)
sure

125. Question (required)

Are you aware how long you remained in Palestine before you were
evacuated?
125. Response (required)
we was there for approx 1 year and 2 or 3 months

126. Question (required)

Did you live with your family whilst you were in Palestine?
126. Response (required)
yes, with all the family, with my parents and my father's relatives

127. Question (required)

Can you remember what date you left Palestine?
127. Response (required)
On November 16th 2023

128. Question (required)

Just to confirm was this before or after the war broke out in Palestine?
128. Response (required)
yes it was after the war started on October 7th, when the war broke out
between Israel and Hamas, regarding the date I left I could be wrong
but it is stamped in my passport

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129. Question (required)

Are you aware what the process was for you and your mum to be
evacuated from Palestine?
129. Response (required)
yes at the time when my father was still alive, my 2 brother who are
residing in the UK they filed an application tot he Russian embassy
regarding the evacuation for us and they were in charge of it, we found
out about the date of the evacuation from our neighbour who seen
mine and my mum's name's on the website, this was for the checkpoint
between Gaza and Egypt

130. Question (required)

I am sorry to ask this question, are you able to tell me the date your
father passed away?
130. Response (required)
29/10/2023

131. Question (required)

You mentioned you remained in Egypt for around 6 months is that
correct?
131. Response (required)
yes, we was there for around 6 to 7 months

132. Question (required)

How did you travel back to Russia form Egypt without your documents?
132. Response (required)
sorry let me explain the evacuation process again, during the
evacuation from Gaza we were kept in Egypt for 3 days and the our
documents were kept by the ministry of emergency of Russia
Federation and after those 2/3 days we were sent back to Moscow for 3
days and after that we went back to Egypt where we stayed for 6-7
moths and applied for the UK visa

133. Question (required)

Can I confirm, within the 3 days you and your mother were in Moscow,
did ether of you experience any problems?

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133. Response (required)

No, me and my mum we stayed in a very remote place in the hotel
outside of the airport in the country side, during those 3 days stay we
received our electronic visa to Egypt and left

134. Question (required)

Why would Russia allow you to leave the country if you were
approaching drat age?
134. Response (required)
at the moment they had no grounds to stop us as I was still 17 and my
mother is a female, I turned 18 when we came to great Britain

135. Question (required)

Did you travel directly from Egypt to the UK, just to confirm?
135. Response (required)
Yes, it's reflected on our travel tickets

136. Question (required)

Did you claim asylum on the same day you entered the UK from Egypt?
136. Response (required)
No, we applied after some time

137. Question (required)

Can you confirm how long you were in the UK for, before you claimed
asylum?
137. Response (required)
to be honest I cant remember, my mum knows exact date I can ask her

138. Question (required)

Is there a reason why you didn't claim asylum as soon as you reached
the UK?

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138. Response (required)

no we didn't plan to apply for asylum at the beginning, we thought that
the war will end and everything will settle down after a couple of
months but after speaking to our relatives we have been told the
situation is getting worse, there is no food supply and no conditions to
leave there at the moment, and considering our Egypt visa has expired
and we could not go back to Russia we decided to claim asylum.

139. Question (required)

Is there anything else you fear in Russia or Palestine that we haven’t
spoken about today?
139. Response (required)
No

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Concluding Questions

Have you understood the questions?

Yes No

Is there anything you would like to add or clarify?

No
Are there any other reasons you wish to remain in the UK? This can
include personal or family circumstances that you would like taken
into consideration.
yes, my older brothers are here, they received education and a degree and
they work in the UK and my mum is also here and I am able to study which
I am going at the moment.
Are you feeling fit and well?

Yes No

Are any further evidence documents required to be submitted?

Yes No

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Final Section

Has your representative or your interpreter any comments about the

interview? (where appropriate).

Interviewing Officer's comments (if any)

Date and end time of interview

Mon Apr 07 2025 4:45 PM

Interviewing Officer's declaration

I confirm that I have recorded verbatim the questions that I have asked the
applicant and to the best of my ability recorded verbatim his/her answers as
interpreted by the HO interpreter (where applicable) and that I have recorded
the pertinent details of events/incidents which occurred during the course of
the interview, including documents presented by the applicant for
consideration.

Signed:

Verbal acknowledgement from applicant to be captured if interview is remote.

If interview is face to face, signature to acknowledge and confirm action taken
to be captured.

Signature of claimant (to be read out). This is solely to confirm receipt of the
copy of the interview and audio recording.

Signed:

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