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LARRY JAMES and other MONTAUK "WITNESSES"
by Marshall Barnes
We have been asked a number of times about the so-called testimony of other Montauk witnesses who support the
version of events that Al Bielek has been promoting. The unique thing about the Montauk Project is that any number
of individuals can come forward and claim that they now remember being in the Montauk chair or spanking 12 year old
boys and sending them to their cages without dinner, or playing "21" with Jr. on the base basketball court before he
wrecked the place. Take Micheal Ash for example. Michael Ash claims to have worked at the Montauk base and,
among other things, to have traveled back in time to Atlantis. Many of you may not have ever heard of Michael Ash.
He's not mentioned on Bielek's web site, however he gave a tape recorded lecture claiming to have been involved with
Montauk (you can read about his other adventures here - http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/ash.html ).
I got a copy of it a number of years ago from Vince Barbarick who calls himself "Peter Moon". But like we've seen
with Al Bielek's account, just because someone claims something happened doesn't make it so. The only thing we can
do is look at the claim and see if there's an opportunity to verify it. If there isn't, we just have to wait until there is,
except in the case of people claiming that they knew Bielek as Ed Cameron, because we know that Al Bielek made
Edward Cameron up. We've proven that he's been lying, so it makes no difference what someone else says. We've
proven that he took the photograph of a completely different person and, thinking so little of the type of people that
usually read his material, he didn't even bother to change the name under the photo, apparently assuming that either
no one would be smart enough to notice or would be too stupified by his stories to care.
The name said "A. Cameron", not "Edward Cameron" or even "E. Cameron". And, of course, once that photo was
traced at Princeton, it proved that it wasn't Ed Cameron at all, but Alex Cameron III who was never in the Navy.
Counter claims that "it all happened on another timeline" are pointless and offered by those who are ignorant both of
the history of Bielek's claims and the subject of parallel universes in general. On one hand, Bielek is on record saying
that what happened to him took place in this universe, not a parallel one. On the other, even if it took place in a
parallel universe the name would be the same if the story were true - it would be "E. Cameron" not "A. Cameron".
Most important of all, the parallel universes theory would not account for why Bielek chose to post the photo that was
obviously not Ed Cameron. But this isn't the first time that he has made claims that fall flat upon inspection. His entire
story is rife with them (you'll see that yourself, again on our page about the Schneider Letters) and there would be no
bielek-debunked.com web site if we didn't have the clear and easily verifiable evidence that proves this.
This doesn't mean that it's always pointless investigating claims that these other Montaukians make. Which brings us
to a curious comment posted at www.bielek.com by a man who is using the name of "Larry James" because he doesn't
want to be identified as being connected with any of this Montauk business. Remaining anonymous is fine, but it also
means that critical analysis of what he has to say is even more important. I applied the same standards to investigating
the statements made by an anonymous scientist to Philadelphia Experiment book author William Moore. What I found
in that case is that everything that could be checked out from the scientist (who Moore dubbed as "Dr. Rinehart"
after a character from the same sci-fi book that Bielek lifted the character of Emil Kurtenaur from)was exactly as he
described, and that was some 85%+ of what he had to say, including how the Philadelphia Experiment was done, some
of who was involved, when, and why. The "Dr. Rinehart" version is the truth because it has become verifiable as fact,
every bit as much as Bielek's version has proven to be verifiable as a lie. Let's see how Larry James' comments hold
up to scrutiny:
On the page of http://www.bielek.com/larry_james.htm it describes him and his background. I will respond to these
statements as warranted "Larry James (not his real name), claims to have been in charge of the Time Control program from the early 1970s to
1985."
This statement is in direct conflict with the heretofore established Montauk legend that says that the project was
ended in 1983 after Duncan Cameron created the energy creature they call "Jr." which then wrecked the facility.
"For the first time, Larry has agreed to share his experience. However, he only agreed to do so if we would not
publicly identify him. He asked that no pictures be taken of him and no reference (to) his real name be made."
Personally, I don't have a problem with this although it does allow for a potential endless stream of so-called
"witnesses" to appear. All it does is make investigating their claims even more important.
"Larry leads a normal life and wants to keep it that way. He isn't interested in getting caught up in much of the hype
that surrounds the Montauk Project... As you listen to the interviews with Larry, you'll pick up on the fact that his
voice sounds rather young."
The voice sounding "young" is a warning flag of sorts. There is a cult of Montauk boy wannabes that has sprung up
around Preston Nichols and this in fact could be one of them posing as a survivor of the project. See
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Montauk_3.doc
"Larry wanted to get out of the program in 1985. The way he got out was to transfer his "soul" into another body. He
did the procedure for several other people. why not for himself?"
Again we have the problem with the date. It's not the only problem we'll have either. Notice I'm letting the "soul
transfer" stuff slide.
"These interviews cover a wide range of topics. You'll hear both Larry talk to Al about why his soul (then Ed
Cameron) was transferred to another body, different experiments that were performed with our time travel technology,
and how time travel is accomplished."
We now have our second major issue: if Larry claims that he transferred Ed Cameron's soul into Al Bielek's body we
can pretty much concluded that he's a liar because we've already proven, with Bielek's help in fact, that Ed Cameron
never existed. It was with Bielek's help because he's the one that chose to place the photograph labeled "A.
Cameron" from the 1936 Princeton year book on his web site and claim that it was a photograph of Ed Cameron
despite the fact that it's labeled with the initial "A" and not "E". Of course when we verified the photo it turned out to
be for Alex Cameron III who is no relation to the Cameron family of Alexander Duncan Cameron who Bielek claims is
his father. Since Bielek faked the evidence for the existence of Ed Cameron and subsequently there is also no
evidence of a Duncan Cameron who lived during the same time period, then it can be safely said that the legend of the
Cameron Brothers, Ed and Duncan is a fabrication and thus makes Larry James' claim of placing Ed Cameron's soul
in Al Bielek's body a lie. Oh, and we're just getting started here...
"According to Larry, Montauk time travel equipment was generally operational in the early 1980's. Their group
performed several time travel experiments. Apparently, they were able to alter the outcome of the Civil War, try out
different scenarios with World War II, and go all the way back to the Roman Empire to test different outcomes."
There are massive problems with the above statements. First, the whole idea that the time travel equipment was
"generally operational in the early 1980's" is problematic because it is by 1983 that the whole operation was shut
down. The time travel aspects, according to Preston Nichols, were operational before the 1980s. So right off the bat we
have continuity problems. Second, the entire idea of how their operations were run and their purpose according to
James rings false for some very basic scientific reasons that a man who is supposed to have been in charge of the
"Time Control" program should have known. This entails some pretty heady concepts which I will try to simplify so
that they can be readily understood regardless of the reader's experience reading about spacetime physics. I will
include links to references so that detailed information is available to the reader as well as providing verification for
my comments.
Until 1957, all theoretical time travel ideas provided for paradoxes which most scientists believed proved that time
travel was impossible. However, the Everett/Wheeler hypothesis was created by Hugh Everett and signed off on by
John Archibald Wheeler of Princeton University. The Everett/Wheeler hypothesis, or many-worlds interpretation of
quantum physics, states that the measurement problem of the wave function is solved by the alternate outcomes, that
were part of the probability of the wave function, still being real except they are in parallel universes. For those of you
that want to delve into the heavy scientific material about this, this link is a good place to start :
http://www.hedweb.com/manworld.htm#believes
The classic thought model of Schroedinger's Cat (click here
"From a Military
Supply Catalog"
Taken from
www.bielek.com
Ending any doubt about this is the fact that on the Bielek website page for him is a side bar
with the heading "Pictures of Time Control Equipment - Taken from a Military Supply
Catalog. The equipment Larry with was identical to what is shown in this catalog." Beneath
that heading is a series of photographs, beginning with the catalog cover and then various
items from inside. The second one down is labeled as "Delta T Transmitter". When I saw that
label and looked carefully at the antenna in the photograph I knew immediately that
something was wrong. The description that has always been used for the so-called "Delta T"
antenna has been an antenna with 3 axis' that appears like two pyramids connected together
at their bases. Simply imagine a square with an "X" in the center with each end of the two
crossing vectors of the "X" connected to a corner of the square. That's what a Delta T looks
like from above and below. From the side view you see that each vector of the "X" is slopping
down at a 45 degree angle from the apex where the two vectors intersect and then connects
with a corner of the square and then continues on below it at an inverted 45 degree angle that
returns to a point of intersection 90 degrees below the top one. In other words, the two axis' of
the antenna that are vertical form a diamond shape and the third axis is a square shape that
goes around the middle of the other two.
If you look carefully at the photograph that's labeled "Delta T Transmitter" you'll notice that that's not what you see.
It resembles two almost pyramid shapes connected no at the base but almost at their apex and not even their apex
actually touching. Now of course the obvious thing to do would be to look at the name of the catalog of the company
and see what information could be gleaned from them. You know, just like contacting Princeton to see if the picture of
A. Cameron was really Edward Cameron. Guess what? That's right. It's not a Delta - T transmitter. Why am I not