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Hibbard
HUDK
5023:
Cognitive
Develop
Clinical
Interview
Assignment
Metacognitive
Understanding
&
Monitoring
(18-21
years)
Submitted
12/10/14
Table
of
Contents
I.
Introduction
II.
Rational
III.
Implementation
IV.
Interpretation
V.
Reflection
VI.
References
VII.
Appendices
i.
Participants
ii.
Transcripts
iii.
Materials
I.
Introduction
Knowledge
acquisition
becomes
increasingly
challenging
as
cognition
develops
towards
adulthood.
The
amount
of
accumulated
acquired
knowledge
increases
with
experience,
thus
adults
tend
to
harbor
a
greater
collection
and
sense
of
confidence
in
their
acquired
knowledge
than
younger
people.
However,
younger
people
are
better
able
to
adapt
their
knowledge
base
to
new
evidence
(Smith,
Sera
&
Gattuso,
1988).
For
adults,
managing
discrepancies
with
their
established
body
of
knowledge,
is
more
of
a
challenge
because
one
discrepancy
implies
that
inaccuracies
or
misunderstandings
may
influence
other
interrelated
aspects
of
their
knowledge
(Asch,
1952,
Kiel
1991).
Discrepant
evidence
therefore
necessitates
theory
revision
or
a
conceptual
change.
Making
these
changes
and
coordinating
assimilated
theories
with
new
evidence
is
difficult.
Often,
adult
learners
struggle
to
make
insights
into
the
level
of
their
knowledge
(Keil,
2011).
They
over
estimate
the
detail
and
depth
of
their
knowledge
(Mills
&
Keil,
2004).
However,
much
of
the
work
in
the
field
of
continuing
education
for
adults
relies
on
the
learners
capacity
to
engage
in
revisionary
learning.
It
demands
learners
confront
what
they
thought
they
knew
and
monitor
their
metacognition.
Studies
into
how
adult
learners
build
awareness
of
their
knowledge
is
an
intrinsic
part
of
revisionary
learning
and
adult
education;
it
is
a
focus
of
this
clinical
interview.
Recent
studies
suggest
that
providing
explanations
can
help
adult
learners
recognize
their
initial
illusions
of
understanding
(Mills
&
Keil,
2004)
and
thus
begin
the
process
of
correlating
new
evidence
with
old
knowledge
and
revising
their
thinking.
This
study
examines
how
oral
explanations
influence
adult
learners
demonstrated
ability
to
monitor
their
metacognition,
specifically
in
terms
of
monitoring
their
awareness
and
illusions
of
understanding.
II.
Rational
Using
the
dynamic,
engaging,
yet
structured
process
of
a
1:1
clinical
interview,
the
interviewer
engages
participants
in
a
series
of
questions
designed
to
draw
attention
to
the
participants
awareness
of
how
confident
they
are
that
they
know
what
they
know.
In
this
case,
knowledge
will
be
assessed
based
on
the
participants
ability
to
accurately
describe
and
explain
a
phenomenon.
Metacognition
will
be
measured
by
the
participants
reported
level
of
confidence
in
their
knowledge
about
the
phenomenon.
Using
these
methods
of
measurement,
the
clinical
interview
is
designed
to
document
the
events
that
build
and/or
decrease
the
participants
confidence
in
their
knowledge.
While
confidence
levels
may
seem
an
unusual
metric
with
which
to
measure
metacognition,
they
serve
the
intents
and
purposes
of
this
project
because
the
governing
goal
behind
the
design
of
this
interview
is
to
create
a
means
of
improving
teaching
methodology
concerned
with
guiding
students
towards
greater
awareness
of
their
own
knowledge.
Changes
in
participants
confidence
levels
may
indicate
initial
stages
in
revisionary
learning,
when
learners
encounter
new
conflicting
evidence,
which
can
be
key
insights
into
learner
readiness
for
new
knowledge
acquisition.
Applying
the
clinical
interview
method
as
a
means
of
measuring
confidence
levels
may
serve
as
a
learning
experience
that
can
be
as
revealing
for
the
participant
as
for
the
interviewer;
thus,
serving
as
an
educational
experience
as
well
as
an
assessment.
Through
this
interview,
it
is
possible
that
both
the
participant
and
the
interviewer
may
be
able
to
build
a
collection
of
methods,
tricks,
and
tools
from
observation
that
can
be
used
to
help
the
learner
independently
check,
revise,
and
build
their
knowledge.
As
a
teacher
of
adults
with
cognitive
disabilities,
I
have
been
consistently
fascinated
by
my
students
awareness
of
their
own
knowledge.
Their
knowledge
acquisition
seems
limited
by
their
illusions
of
understanding.
For
example,
my
often
confidently
claim
to
poses
knowledge
on
a
topic
that
they
have
never
studied
before.
Other
times,
they
claim
they
significantly
doubt
their
ability
to
perform
skills
they
have
previously
applied
with
competency.
Significant
portions
of
my
lesson
plans
are
committed
to
building
background
knowledge,
which
are
activities
designed
to
call
forth
the
knowledge
that
my
students
already
have
in
order
to
better
facilitate
the
alignment
of
knowledge
acquisition
with
previously
established
knowledge.
Often,
I
design
this
activity
in
a
way
that
requires
students
to
explain
what
they
already
know.
By
engaging
in
explanatory
activities
like
these,
my
students
must
defend
their
reasoning.
They
must
unpack
their
assumptions,
reconsider
the
rational
they
reported
as
truth,
and
compare
it
against
their
own
logic.
Answering
these
questions
often
cues
them
to
make
adjustments
to
their
understanding
right
in
front
of
my
eyes.
This
presentation
of
metacognition
has
intrigued
me
as
a
teacher
time
and
time
again.
This
clinical
interview
is
designed
to
help
me
better
document
this
internal
metacognitive
process
with
the
purpose
of
better
preparing
myself
with
questions
and
conversation
strategies
to
help
my
future
students
ignite
similar
metacognitive
reasoning
processes.
In
this
interview,
the
participants
level
of
confidence
in
the
accuracy
of
their
knowledge
will
be
used
as
an
indicator
of
their
metacognition.
These
metrics
will
be
referred
to
in
this
paper
as
their
confidence
levels.
To
best
align
with
the
purpose
of
the
clinical
interview,
data
collected
on
the
participants
confidence
levels
will
be
divided
into
three
categories
based
on
how
well
they
understand
the
phenomenon:
(3)
they
have
a
clear
understanding
of
the
phenomenon,
(2)
they
have
a
partial
understanding
of
the
phenomenon,
and
(1)
they
do
not
have
a
clear
understanding
of
the
phenomenon.
The
interviewer
will
determine
the
clarity
of
the
participants
understanding
based
on
how
concisely
and
consistently
the
participant
applies
the
terminology
they
decide
to
use
to
describe
and
explain
the
phenomenon
during
the
interview.
Variation
in
their
terminology
(ex.
using
words
that
have
very
different
meanings
to
describe
the
phenomenon
or
failing
to
include
descriptive
elements
of
the
phenomenon
that
the
participant,
later
in
the
interview,
identifies
as
important)
will
be
interpreted
as
confusion
and
thus
a
lack
of
a
clear
understanding.
To
demonstrate
their
knowledge
of
the
phenomenon,
the
participant
will
be
asked
(1)
describe
the
phenomenon
and
then
(2)
explain
how
the
phenomenon
interacts
with
its
surrounding
environment.
The
phenomenon
will
be
determined
ahead
of
time
and
selected
as
appropriate
to
the
age
and
cognitive
functioning
of
the
participant.
For
the
sake
of
designing
an
interview
that
will
challenge
the
participant
to
seriously
consider
their
confidence
levels,
the
phenomenon
chosen
for
this
interview
should
have
a
complex
body
of
attributes
that
have
an
interactive
relationship
with
the
surrounding
environment.
By
design,
the
participant
should
not
be
able
to
succinctly
describe
the
phenomenon
in
just
a
few
words.
Elaboration
should
be
necessary.
For
this
clinical
interview,
the
participants
are
all
students
of
mine1:
Meredith,
Stephan,
and
Ellen.
The
names
of
the
students
who
participated
in
this
study
have
been
changed
to
protect
their
identities.
The
subject
of
this
clinical
interview
is
Meredith.
Stephan
and
Ellen
also
participated
in
the
same
clinical
interview
process
described
here.
They
will
be
referenced
for
cross-comparisons
and
alternative
perspectives
the
responses
to
their
interviews
provide.
All
three
participants
are
18
and
19-year-old
people
of
color.
They
have
completed
all
four
years
of
high
school
and
have
been
students
of
mine
for
4
months.
All
three
have
been
diagnosed
with
a
learning
disability.
See
Appendix
I
for
further
detail
on
participants.
Considering
the
experience
and
educational
background
of
all
three
participants,
particularly
in
the
area
of
their
high
school
science
class,
I
chose
to
use
the
phenomenon
of
stars
for
this
interview.
My
reasoning
behind
this
selection
was
based
on
the
observation
that
several
of
their
classmates
have
demonstrated
uncertainty
about
(a)
whether
stars
are
small
or
large
(b)
whether
or
not
they
are
also
suns,
and
(c)
whether
they
are
hot
or
cold.
This
observation
was
striking
to
me
since
I
am
well
aware
of
the
fact
that
they
studied
the
solar
system
in
their
high
school.
Thus,
I
deemed
stars
to
be
an
appropriate
phenomenon
for
this
assessment
because
the
participants
enough
familiarity
with
the
subject
matter
so
as
to
reasonably
assume
that
they
know
what
they
are.
Additionally,
the
concept
of
stars
is
both
complex
as
well
highly
interactive
with
its
surrounding
environment.
1
While
an
interviewers
students
should
not
typically
be
used
for
clinical
interview
due
to
the
potential
power
dynamic
of
the
student-teacher
relationship,
the
relationship
that
I
have
established
with
my
students
is
notably
different
from
this
status
quo
because
I
assess
them
regularly.
Reading
inventories,
KeyMath
assessments,
these
are
typically
monthly
experiences
for
my
students
and
me.
We
have
become
remarkably
comfortable
with
the
setting
of
an
interview
styled
assessment.
In
each
of
these
interviews,
I
endeavor
to
replicate
this
same
comfortable
relationship
that
I
have
established
with
my
students
during
past
interviews.
Perhaps
this
relationship
can
be
heard
in
the
audio
recordings
of
the
interviews.
Because
of
this
previously
established
relationship,
the
potential
teacher-student
power
dynamic
plays
a
minimal
influence
in
my
assessments
and
will
most
likely
have
minimal
influence
here
as
well.
III.
Implementation
The
clinical
interview
is
comprised
of
two
5-minute
trials
separated
by
a
15-minute
group
activity.
Each
participant
was
interviewed
individually
(Trial
I),
then
after
participating
in
a
collaborative
group
activity
they
were
each
interviewed
a
second
time
(Trial
II)
with
the
same
questions
posed
to
them
in
the
first
interview.
Differences
between
these
answers
and
answers
given
prior
to
the
clinical
interview
will
be
of
particular
significance.
Upon
beginning
each
interview,
the
participant
was
asked
to
answer
the
yes
or
no
question,
Do
you
know
what
stars
are?
After
answering
this
question,
the
participant
was
asked
to
rate
how
well
they
think
they
know
what
stars
are
on
a
scale
of
1-5.
A
mark
of
5
signifying
that
they
are
confident
in
their
knowledge
of
what
stars
are
and
a
mark
of
1
signifying
that
they
are
not
confident
that
they
know
what
stars
are.
After
this
initial
assessment
the
interview
began.
The
interview
was
an
informal
exchange
of
dialogue
between
the
participant
and
the
interviewer
about
stars.
The
interviewer
asked
the
participant
to
illuminate
their
knowledge
by
describing
and
then
explaining
to
the
best
of
their
knowledge
what
stars
are.
Specifically,
the
participant
was
prompted
to
elaborate
on
their
knowledge
with
questions
designed
to
have
them
(a)
describe
what
stars
are,
(b)
explain
how
stars
function,
(c)
explain
how
stars
interact
with
their
surrounding
environment.
See
Appendix
iii.
Materials
for
more
detailed
information
about
the
questions
involved
in
each
interview.
Immediately
after
Trial
I,
all
three
participants
took
part
in
a
two
part
15-minute
collaborative
activity.
In
the
first
part,
participants
independently
read
identical
information
about
stars
(See
Appendix
iii.
Materials).
After
reading,
participants
took
part
in
the
second
part
of
the
activity,
where
they
were
prompted
to
share
and
discuss
what
they
had
learned
from
the
reading.
During
this
activity,
all
three
participants
were
encouraged
by
the
interviewer
to
use
the
group
to
check
what
they
knew
to
increase
their
level
of
confidence
in
their
knowledge.
Each
part
of
the
clinical
interview
Trial
I,
the
Group
Activity,
and
Trial
II
were
designed
to
be
brief
and
immediately
follow
each
other
so
as
not
to
strain
the
participants
working
memory
or
processing
skills.
(See
Appendix
i.
Participants
for
further
information.)
IV.
Interpretation
The
beginning
of
Stephan
and
Ellens
interview
was
almost
identical.
Both
participants
entered
the
conversation
reporting
the
highest
levels
of
confidence
in
their
knowledge
of
stars.
They
reported
5;
they
knew
stars
very
well.
This
beginning
is
not
necessary
representative
of
what
the
participant
actually
knew
about
stars;
instead,
these
5s
signify
high
confidence
levels
in
prior-knowledge
of
stars.
At
this
early
stage
in
the
interview,
it
became
apparent
that
understanding
could
not
be
correlated
with
confidence
levels;
for
although
both
Stephan
and
Ellen
reported
that
they
knew
stars
very
well
their
explanatory
demonstrations
of
their
knowledge
were
quite
different.
While
Stephan
needed
extra
time
to
convey
his
answers,
his
answers
were
clear
and
concise;
demonstrating
what
will
be
considered
a
relatively
clear
understanding,
by
the
terms
defined
in
this
clinical
interview
(See
II.
Rational
for
further
details
on
this
subject).
Stephan
demonstrated
an
awareness
of
stars
in
their
physicality
in
space
saying,
theyre
actually
suns,
and,
Theyre
really
big,
and
if
you
touched
one,
you
would
just
get
burned
and
an
awareness
of
their
poetic
significance
for
us
earthlings
saying,
People
sometimes,
um,
we
wish
upon
a
star
thus
Stephan
demonstrates
a
multifaceted
understanding.
However,
Ellen,
who
also
claimed
confidence
at
level
5,
seems
to
confront
what
may
be
her
illusion
of
understanding
very
rapidly
as
soon
as
she
is
asked
to
describe
what
stars
are
she
says,
Oh,
Jesus
Christ,
um
I
should
know
this.
I
watch
the
Cosmos
all
the
time.
Um.
Theyre,
oh,
theyre
suns.
They
are
millions
and
millions
of
suns.
Although
Ellen
decides
here
that
the
stars
are
suns,
she
later
expresses
mild
confusion
about
whether
Earths
Sun
and
stars
are
they
same
kind
of
sun,
stars,
they
create
sunlight,
not
as
much
as
our
main
sun
would,
but
they
do.
In
this
interview,
Ellen
demonstrates
partial
understanding
of
what
stars
are
despite
her
initial
high
confidence
levels.
These
Trial
I
interviews
clearly
demonstrate
two
individuals
with
varying
degrees
of
understanding,
but
similarly
high
confidence
levels.
These
initial
confidence
levels
stand
in
contrast
to
the
confidence
levels
of
this
interviews
main
subject,
Meredith.
Early
in
Trial
I,
Meredith
demonstrated
lower
confidence
levels
in
her
understanding
of
stars
giving
herself
the
confidence
level
of
a
3
suggesting
awareness
or
insight
into
what
she
doesnt
know
to
a
degree
that
her
peers
were
not
able
to
replicate.
In
the
interview,
Meredith
says,
Im
not
sure
but
I
think
and
I
could
guess,
thus
clearly
highlighting
to
the
person
shes
speaking
to
her
low
confidence
levels.
The
disparity
between
Merediths
initial
confidence
levels
and
those
of
Stephans
and
Ellens
could
be
the
result
of
many
influences
external
to
the
question
of
metacognition.
While
it
is
highly
likely
that
Meredith
is
very
aware
of
how
detailed
her
knowledge
of
stars
really
is,
it
is
also
possible
that
we
are
seeing
the
confidence
levels
of
a
person
who
is
small
in
stature,
with
a
quiet
voice,
who
is
confined
to
a
wheel
chair,
and
who
consequently
struggles
with
personal
confidence
even
before
stars
were
brought
into
the
picture.
Merediths
confidence
level
may
not
be
as
clear
a
sign
of
metacognition
as
initially
thought.
What
can
clearly
be
observed
from
Trial
I
is,
congruent
with
Mills
&
Keil
(2004),
the
confidence
levels
of
both
Meredith
and
Ellen
decrease
after
being
asked
to
explain
what
they
know.
As
they
explain
what
they
know,
they
seem
to
realize
that
their
level
of
understanding
isnt
what
they
thought
it
was.
Ellen
admits
to
watching
Cosmos,
thus
expecting
that
she
know
more
about
stars
than
her
present
performance
indicate.
Meredith
admits
to
how
surprisingly
challenging
the
explanatory
task
is,
saying,
Wow,
this
is
hard.
In
both
cases,
there
is
a
notable
decrease
in
confidence
levels
at
the
of
the
Trial
I.
These
results
suggest
that
the
act
of
explaining
their
knowledge
dispelled
both
Meredith
and
Ellen
of
some
of
their
illusions
of
understanding.
Most
striking
is
the
change
in
confidence
levels
between
Trial
I
and
Trial
II
for
both
Meredith
and
Ellen.
The
numbers
suggest
that
activities
that
took
place
between
the
two
interviews
made
both
woman
feel
significantly
more
confident
in
their
knowledge
than
they
had
before.
Immediately
after
their
individual
interviews,
all
three
participants
were
given
reading
about
stars
(See
VI.
Appendix
iii.
Matierials
for
a
copy),
written
at
their
reading
level,
each
reading
contained
the
same
information.
After
reading,
each
student
participated
in
am
unstructured
group
conversation
about
the
reading.
While
the
facilitator
led
much
of
this
discussion
posing
questions
and
actively
motivating
participants
to
share
their
answers
points
made
during
the
group
discussion
proved
to
be
extremely
influential
in
terms
of
both
confidence
levels
and
acquired
knowledge,
the
later
of
which
was
not
measured
here,
but
which
remains
interesting
as
an
indicator
of
how
influential
the
group
work
was
on
the
individuals.
What
individuals
brought
up
during
the
group
discussion
appeared
as
fact
and
common
knowledge
in
the
Trial
II
interviews,
despite
the
fact
that
these
individual
observations
were
not
necessarily
true.
Take
for
example
that
during
the
group
conversation,
Stephan
pointed
out
at
that
a
star
is,
a
ball
of
gas.
Later,
during
the
individual
interviews
of
Trial
II,
both
Meredith
and
Ellen
report
similar
facts.
Merediths
first
description
of
stars
is,
Theyre,
um,
theyre
a
ball
of
gas.
Similarly,
Ellen
begins
her
interview
by
immediately
going
into
the
detail
about
the
kinds
of
gas
the
comprise
stars.
She
says,
A
star
is
a
bunch
of
suns,
just
like
I
said
before.
And
its
made
of
hydrogen
I
cant
say
that
word
well
and,
um,
carbon
dioxide.
Note
that
while
Meredith
is
correct,
Ellen
is
not
entirely
correct,
yet
they
both
are
reporting
high
confidence
levels
after
the
group
discussion.
Its
possible
that
the
recycling
of
points
made
during
the
group
conversation
increased
participant
confidence
levels.
However,
Stephans
confidence
levels
remain
the
same.
He
is
as
confident
as
ever.
However,
what
is
worthy
of
note
here
is
that
while
Stephans
confidence
levels
remain
un-phased
by
the
group
discussion,
his
level
of
understanding
seems
to
have
increased,
because
his
understanding
is
clearer
and
more
concise.
V.
Reflection
a.
The
results
from
this
clinical
interview
suggest
that
cognition
is
more
than
just
the
accumulative
sum
of
units
of
knowledge,
cognition
is
an
active
intellectual
construction
and
revision
process.
All
participants
demonstrated
readiness
to
acquire
certain
knowledge
and
concepts
depending
on
their
prior-knowledge.
For
example,
Stephan
was
able
to
retain
information
about
hydrogen
and
helium
that
Ellen
was
not
ready
to
retain.
Stephan
had
heard
of
terms
like
hydrogen
before,
thus
he
was
ready
to
evoke
previously
acquired
knowledge
about
them
and
learn
more,
but
Ellen
wasnt.
This
observation
and
observations
like
them
support
the
findings
of
recent
research
demonstrating
that
after
the
age
of
10,
the
induction
of
new
knowledge
depends
entirely
on
category
membership
and
whether
the
input
aligns
with
previously
established
categories.
For
example,
if
previously
established
categories
around
the
concept
of
stars
is
that
they
are
small,
cold,
distant,
it
will
be
particularly
challenging
for
a
learner
to
grasp
the
notion
that
stars
are
giant,
burning
balls
of
gas,
like
the
sun.
Such
discrepancies
provoke
theory
revision
and
conceptual
change.
Current
research
in
theory
revision
implies
that
knowledge
acquisition
should
be
regarded
as
a
process
of
theory
revision,
rather
than
the
accumulation
of
individual
units
of
knowledge.
A
critical
part
of
learning,
then,
is
the
control
theory
revision.
Knowing
when
to
revise
ones
knowledge
base
is
a
crucial
component
of
intentional
learning.
However,
to
do
this,
the
learner
must
be
aware
of
what
they
know
and
what
they
dont
know.
b.
While,
the
design
of
this
clinical
interview
created
opportunities
for
adult
learners
to
question
and
challenge
their
acquired
knowledge,
we
cannot
be
sure
that
the
changes
we
observed
in
confidence
levels
during
both
trials
were
the
direct
result
of
participants
changing
awareness
of
what
they
know.
Changes
in
confidence
levels
could
have
been
the
result
of
the
personality
types
involved,
particularly
Merediths.
In
reality,
this
clinical
interview
is
very
susceptible
to
participant
misunderstanding
and
misreporting.
Thus,
it
is
impossible
for
this
clinical
interview
to
demonstrate
anything
more
concrete
than
anecdotal
evidence
supporting
existing
research.
If
this
study
were
to
be
continued,
the
assessment
of
levels
of
understanding
would
have
to
be
refined
so
as
to
better
indicate
the
points
at
which
the
participants
think
they
know
and
when
the
actually
know.
10
VI.
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L.,
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M.,
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B.
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11
VII. Appendix
i.
Participants
There
were
three
participants
in
this
clinical
interview:
Meredith,
Stephan,
and
Ellen.
Their
names
have
been
changed
for
the
sake
of
protecting
their
right
to
privacy.
Below
is
a
brief
description
of
how
each
participants
disabilities
may
impact
their
ability
to
participate
in
the
clinical
interview,
specifically
in
terms
of
reading,
listening,
and
conversation
skills.
Meredith
has
two
different
types
of
disabilities
that
must
be
taken
into
consideration.
One
of
them
is
physical.
She
is
orthopedically
impaired
and
confined
to
a
wheel
chair
and
has
limited
mobility
in
her
hands.
For
this
reason,
she
opted
out
of
drawing
stars
for
the
clinical
interview.
Meredith
also
has
a
learning
disability
that,
minimally
characterized,
limits
her
perceptual
reasoning
and
processing
speed.
This
cognitive
disability
impedes
her
daily
life
functioning
in
so
far
as
it
demands
that
she
take
extra
time
to
complete
most
activities.
She
speaks
in
a
soft
and
often
muffled
voice,
which
makes
it
difficult
for
others
to
hear
and
acknowledge
her
contribution
to
a
conversation.
This
disability
may
have
impaired
her
cognitive
development
only
slightly
as
her
grade
equivalency
in
reading
proficiency
is
6th
grade
and
her
listening
proficiency
is
at
a
high
school
level.
Her
verbal
reasoning
and
working
memory
skills
have
been
measured
as
falling
in
the
average
for
her
age
group.
Therefore,
while
Meredith
requires
extra
time
to
complete
activities,
like
the
reading
and
conversation
activities
that
comprise
a
key
component
of
this
clinical
interview,
her
learning
disability
does
not
impact
her
ability
to
respond
to
the
interview
questions.
Apparent
in
the
transcript
and
the
audio
recordings,
are
her
struggles
with
verbal
conversation.
To
assist
her
participation
with
the
purpose
of
making
her
desired
level
of
participation
possible,
I
took
on
the
responsibility
of
repeating
her
words
for
her
peers
and
for
the
audio
recording
to
ensure
she
was
heard
clearly.
Stephans
cognitive
disabilities
must
be
taken
into
consideration
as
well.
Minimally
characterized,
Stephans
processing
speed,
working
memory,
and
perceptual
reasoning
skills
fall
within
an
extremely
low
range
relative
to
his
age
group.
These
cognitive
disabilities
impede
his
daily
life
functioning
in
so
far
as
they
demand
he
take
extra
time
to
consider
what
12
he
wants
to
say,
as
well
as
take
extra
time
to
communicate
his
thinking.
Like
Meredith,
Stephan
also
speaks
softly,
and
typically
strings
his
thoughts
together
in
loose
phrases
as
he
decides
how
best
to
express
himself.
This
style
of
communication
is
apparent
in
the
audio
recordings
and
transcripts
of
interviews
with
Stephan.
One
can
immediately
see
that
his
answers
are
confident,
but
it
takes
him
some
time
to
settle
on
what
exactly
it
is
that
he
wants
to
say.
Stephans
disabilities
may
have
impaired
his
cognitive
development
only
slightly
as
his
grade
equivalency
in
reading
proficiency
is
5th
grade
and
his
listening
proficiency
is
at
an
upper
middle
school
level.
Interestingly,
Stephans
cognitive
processing
speed
falls
within
the
average
range
for
his
age
group.
Therefore,
while
Stephan
requires
extra
time
to
express
himself,
for
example
when
stringing
phrases
together
in
conversation
during
the
group
activity
between
trial
I
and
II
of
the
clinical
interview,
his
learning
disability
does
not
impact
his
ability
to
understand
the
reading
and
interview
questions.
To
assist
his
self-expression,
I
presented
Stephan
with
several
more
questions
than
Meredith
and
Ellen.
These
extra
questions
were
designed
to
give
Stephan
ample
opportunity
to
phrase
and
re-phrase
his
thinking
in
order
to
best
express
his
intended
answers.
Our
third
participant,
Ellen,
also
has
several
disabilities
that
must
be
taken
into
consideration.
Like
Meredith,
Ellen
has
a
physical
disability
as
well
cognitive
disabilities.
Because
Ellens
physical
disability
does
not
impact
her
ability
to
participate
in
this
clinical
interview,
therefore
it
is
inconsequential
to
this
clinical
interview.
Ellens
cognitive
disabilities,
minimally
characterized,
limit
her
working
memory
and
perceptual
reasoning.
These
cognitive
disabilities
impede
her
daily
life
functioning
in
so
far
as
they
demand
she
take
extra
time
to
consider
her
logical-reasoning
when
reading
to
learn
and
when
conversing
about
what
she
has
learned.
Ellen
demonstrates
a
tendency
to
struggle
to
report
what
she
has
perceived
to
the
degree
that
is
satisfactory
to
her.
Often,
she
expresses
frustration
with
her
demonstrated
comprehension
levels
because
she
believes
she
knows
more
that
she
has
reported.
For
example,
in
class
she
will
often
say,
I
know
I
know
this,
when
struggling
explain
what
she
knows.
This
disability
may
have
impaired
her
cognitive
development,
but
for
reasons
that
may
be
obvious,
this
is
difficult
to
measure
because
of
her
struggles
to
self-report
her
cognitive
abilities.
It
is
possible
that
this
cognitive
disability
has
impeded
her
cognitive
develop
only
slightly
as
her
grade
equivalency
in
reading
proficiency
is
8th
grade
and
her
listening
proficiency
is
at
a
upper
middle
school
level.
Therefore,
13
Ellen
requires
extra
time
to
complete
knowledge
acquisition
activities,
like
the
reading
and
conversation
activities
that
comprise
this
clinical
interview;
however,
her
learning
disability
does
not
impact
her
ability
to
respond
to
the
interview
questions.
Apparent
in
the
transcript
and
the
audio
recordings,
are
her
struggles
with
self-reporting
her
knowledge
base.
To
assist
her
participation
with
the
purpose
of
making
her
desired
level
of
participation
possible,
the
interview
was
designed
to
give
participants
like
Ellen
multiple
prompts
and
perspectives
from
which
to
consider
the
topic.
This
was
done
with
the
intention
of
giving
Ellen
and
other
participants
an
opportunity
to
consider
and
re-consider
what
they
know
and
how
they
know
what
they
know
about
the
topic.
14
ii.
Transcripts
*Note:
Transcript
of
Merediths
First
Interview
was
lost
in
a
data
transfer.
Please
see
iii.
Materials
for
more
evidence
of
Merediths
clinical
interview.
Katherine
Strong
Hibbard
HUDK
5023:
Cognitive
Development,
Fall
2014
Final
Project:
Clinical
Interview
Hibbard: I
wanted
to
ask
you,
how
well
do
you
know
or
do
you
think
you
know,
about
stars?
And
so
the
first
part
is
can
you
just
answer
this
question,
do
you
know
what
stars
are?
And
then
circle
yes
or
no.
Ellen:
Hibbard: Ok,
and
would
you
say
that
you
know
what
stars
are
or
you
dont
know
what
stars
are?
Ellen:
Hibbard: Ok,
alright,
cool.
So,
you
can
see
that
this
paper
is
folded
over
because
there
is
another
part,
but
wait
wait
wait
This
is
these
are
your
documents.
Well
get
to
those
in
a
moment.
So,
then
could
you
just
tell
me
what
stars
and
describe
them?
Ellen:
Oh,
Jesus
Christ,
um
I
should
know
this.
I
watch
the
Cosmos
all
the
time.
Um.
Theyre,
oh,
theyre
suns.
They
are
millions
and
millions
of
suns.
So,
thats
what
they
are.
Oh gosh, Im gonna not do that very well, so I dont know what they look like specifically, so
Hibbard: Ok,
great.
Um,
so
what
would
those
like
if
you
were
up
close?
Ellen:
Thats what Im thinking. It probably looks like this (points to Figure A on Student Drawing Trial I Ellen).
No!
Oh
wait,
I
said
its
a
sun
its
not
a
moon.
No,
you
could
not
because
youll
burn.
The
sun
is
like
a
thousand
degrees,
so
15
Uh, stars, they create sunlight. Not as much as our main sun would, but they do.
Hibbard: Ok,
great.
Im
going
to
stop
there.
Thats
it.
Im
going
to
turn
this
over
and
would
you
now
circle
yes
or
now
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
And
would
you
give
yourself
a
score
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
Ok.
Katherine
Strong
Hibbard
HUDK
5023:
Cognitive
Development,
Fall
2014
Final
Project:
Clinical
Interview
with Stephan
Hibbard: Yeah
so
I
wanted
to
ask
you,
um,
do
you
know
what
stars
are?
Stephan: Yeah.
Hibbard: What
are
stars?
Stephan: Theyre
like
those
theyre
those
theyre
actually
suns.
Hibbard: Oh,
great,
ok,
so
if
I
were
to
ask
you,
like,
how
well
you
know
what
stars
are,
uh,
or
I
guess
I
better
way
to
say
this
is
if
you
know
what
stars
are
would
you
circle
yes
or
no.
Stephan: Yeah.
Hibbard: Ok
great.
And
then
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
Stephan: Very
well
5.
Hibbard: Ok,
great.
Alright,
so,
then
Im
just
going
to
ask
you
a
few
questions
about
stars,
um,
so
you
said
theyre
suns,
what
else
are
stars,
like,
if
you
were
to
describe
them
to
me
what
would
you
say?
Stephan: Uh,
that
theyre,
like,
theyre
really
small.
Hibbard: Umhmm
Stephan: They
come
out,
um,
they
come
out
at
the
night.
Hibbard: Ok.
Stephan: Um,
you
could,
um
lets
see
Oh
yeah,
I
said
theyre
suns.
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Hibbard: Umhmm
Stephan: Like,
theres
whole,
theres
a
lot
of
them.
Hibbard: Umhmm
Stephan: That
people
sometimes,
um,
we
wish
upon
a
star
(chuckles).
Hibbard: Ok.
(chuckles)
I
know
I
do.
Stephan: (chuckles)
and
Hibbard: So,
could
you
draw
me
a
picture
of
what
a
star
looks
like?
Stephan: Umhmm
yup.
Hibbard: Ok,
great.
And,
like,
what
do
stars
look
like,
up
close?
Stephan: Um,
theyre
like
really
big.
Hibbard: Ok.
Um,
are
there
any
labels
that
you
want
to
put
on
your
drawing?
Are
there
any
parts
that,
like,
you
know
how
sometimes
a
car
has
a
door
and
wheels
and
a
windshield?
Are
there
any
parts
that
star
that
you
want
to
label
or,
you
dont
have
to
label
it
if
you
dont
want
to.
Stephan: Nah.
Hibbard: Ok,
um,
and
then
can
you
touch
a
star?
Stephan: No.
Hibbard: What
would
happen
to
you
if
you
touch
a
star?
Stephan: I
think
you
would
just
get
burned.
Hibbard: Youd
get
burned.
Stephan: Yeah.
Hibbard: Alright,
great,
and
then
how
do
stars
work?
Like,
what
do
they
do?
Stephan: Uh,
like
they
only
they
only
come
every
night.
And
also,
so,
we
live
in
the
city
so
we
cant,
like,
really
see
them
but
if
we
lived
in
like,
like
in
the,
um,
in
the
woods,
then
we
could
see
them
a
lot.
Hibbard: You
could
see
them
a
lot,
ok.
And
how
do
stars
affect
the
environment
around
them?
Stephan: Um,
they
just,
they
help,
they
just
shine.
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Hibbard: Take
a
seat
anywhere
you
want.
And,
so,
what,
Dwayne,
so
what
I
did
is,
everyone
was
like,
ok
what
are
stars?
Oh
my
gosh,
whats
going
on?
So
what
I
did
is,
Ive
given
everybody,
um,
a
reading
about
what
stars
are
so
you
can
refresh
your
memory,
you
said
you
knew
a
lot
about
them.
Stephan:
Umhmm
Hibbard: Um,
and
I
want
to
give
you
a
chance
to
look
over
it
to
sort
of
remind
yourself
of
what
you
already
knew
about
stars,
um,
and
then
Im
going
to
ask
you
guys
to
just
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
what
stars
are.
You
can
ask
each
other
questions,
you
can
talk
about
the
reading
(interrupted)
(students
start
reading)
Stephan: Ok,
Ive
read
it.
Hibbard: Ok,
you
feel
pretty
comfortable
with
what
stars
are?
Stephan: Yup,
umhmm
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Hibbard: Ok,
grab
a
seat,
um,
so,
folks
you
just
were
all
just
asked
the
same
questions.
Is
there
anything
that
you
want
to
check
with
each
other
to
make
sure
that
you
know?
Is
there
any,
do
you
have
any
questions
for
each
other
to
make
sure
that
you
are
comfortable
with
this
knowledge?
Stephan: Nope.
Ellen:
No.
Stephan: Sorry.
Hibbard: You
feel
good,
like,
if
I
were
to
ask
you
to
talk
about
a
star
again
one
on
one
you
think
you
could
say
more
comfortably
a
few
things
about
what
a
star
is?
Stephan: Umhm
Ellen:
Yeah.
Hibbard: Yeah?
Meredith:
I
think
so.
Hibbard: You
think
so?
(Interrupted)
Hibbard: Ok,
alright,
then
without,
you
guys
dont
want
to
talk?
To
get
on
the
same
page?
You
dont
have
to.
Im
just
saying
it
might
be
helpful
to
check.
Meredith:
Um,
I
dont
know
Hibbard: Alright.
You
know
Im
probably
going
to
ask
you
the
same
questions,
so
you
know
that
Im
going
to
ask
you
what
a
star
is.
Stephan: Umhm
Hibbard: Ok
Stephan:
A
ball
of
gas.
Hibbard: Ok,
so
you
think
its
a
ball
of
gas.
Do
you
guys
agree
with
Dwyane?
Meredith:Yeah
Ellen:
Its a ball of gas made of helium and nitrogen? I believe it says yeah it is.
Hibbard: Hmmm, yeah, it says helium and nitrogen, helium and I think it says hydrogen
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It says the degrees as well, but, um, I dont remember where it says oh, 10 million degrees, oh jeez
Hibbard: Yeah,
10
million
degrees,
that
sounds
really,
what?
Hot
or
cold?
Stephan:
Hot.
Ellen:
Yeah, hot.
Really.
Hibbard: Yeah,
absolutely.
Any
other
interesting
things
that
we
need
to
know
about
stars?
Ellen:
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Hibbard: They
collapse
on
themselves.
Yeah,
thats
true.
Yeah,
when
they
are
forming
they
collapse
on
themselves.
They
start
out
at
a
gas
cloud
and
then
they
get
heavier
and
they
kind
of
suck
themselves
into
this
ball
and
then
they
are
a
star.
And
then
as
they
age
they
sort
of
loose
energy.
Meredith:I
never
knew
that.
Hibbard: What
did
you
never
know?
Meredith:That
they
collapse
on
themselves.
Hibbard: They
collapse
on
themselves.
Yeah.
Meredith:When
theyre
forming.
Hibbard: Yeah.
Thats
very
cool.
Alright.
Lets
stop
and
Im
going
to
ask
you
guys
one
on
one
so
Ill
ask
Lydia
and
Dwayne
to
step
out.
You
guys
can
take
the
reading
materials
with
you
if
you
want.
Step
out
for
just
two
minutes
and
Im
going
to
interview
Megan
with
the
same
questions
and
then
Im
going
to
ask
you
guys
to
each
come
in
and
Ill
ask
you
the
same
questions
and
that
will
be
it.
Ellen:
Ok.
Hibbard: So,
I
bet
this
isnt
too
surprising,
but
Im
going
to
ask
you
the
same
questions.
So,
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
(Interruption)
Alright,
Lydia,
so
Im
going
to
ask
you
again
before
doing
Part
II
to
describe
what
a
star
is
after
doing
the
reading
and
participating
in
the
group
conversation.
Ellen:
A
star
is
a
bunch
of
suns,
just
like
I
said
before.
And
its
made
of
hydrogen
I
cant
say
that
word
well
and,
um,
carbon
dioxide
Hibbard: Ok
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Ellen:
And
when
the
star
dies,
it
turns
into
a
dwarf
star
and
thats
how
after
it
dies
and
turns
into
a
dwarf
star,
um,
it
creates
new
stars
they
create
new
stars.
Hibbard: Great.
Do
you
want
to
draw
a
picture
of
stars
again,
for
me?
Ellen:
Hibbard: Sure,
did
the
reading
help
you
visualize
that
a
star
looks
like
at
all?
Ellen:
Um, it was just little dots really, so I dont really know still
Yeah, I cant do that one. But you know what I mean. Thats the fancy one.
Hibbard: Thats
ok.
Yeah,
I
get
what
youre
saying.
Ok
great.
Do
you
do
you
want
to
label
anything?
Ellen:
Hibbard: Ok,
great.
Alright,
so
you
know
what
Im
going
to
do
at
the
very
end,
part
II,
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are
and
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
Ellen:
with Meredith
Hibbard: Alright,
here
we
go,
same
documents,
this
is
trial
II
ok,
Im
going
to
give
you
that,
but
I
think
youre
going
to
opted
out
to
not
use
it,
which
is
fine.
Meredith:
Yeah.
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Hibbard: Alright,
so,
if
you
were
to
circle
yes
or
no
to
tell
me
that
you
know
what
stars
are,
which
would
you
circle?
Meredith:
Umm
Hibbard: Yes?
Ok,
great.
And
um,
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are
now?
Meredith:
Hibbard: Very
well?
Ok,
great.
So,
what
do
stars
what
are
stars
like?
Meredith:Theyre,
um,
theyre
a
ball
of
gas.
A
star
is
very
hot.
And
they
are,
like,
sorta,
like,
theyre
sorta
like
the
sun;
really
hot.
And
they
are
made
out
of
gas.
They
are
formed
out
of
gas.
Hibbard: Great.
Um,
would
you
touch
one?
Meredith: No,
because
they
are
very
hot
and
they
would
burn.
Hibbard: What
do
they
look
like
up
close?
Meredith: Um,
up
close
they
they
Hibbard: Yeah,
what
do
they
look
like
up
close,
Megan?
Meredith:They,
um,
I
guess
they
kind
of
look
like
the
sun
up
close.
Hibbard: Ok,
great.
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
want
to
saw
about
stars?
Meredith:
Um,
yeah.
Hibbard: Alright.
Cool.
Thats
it.
So
now,
part
II,
Im
going
to
ask
you
to
just
say
how
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are,
yes
or
no?
Meredith:Um
Hibbard: And
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
Meredith:
Hibbard: Alright.
Great.
Thats
it!
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Strong
Hibbard
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Cognitive
Development,
Fall
2014
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Project:
Clinical
Interview
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with Stephan
Hibbard: So,
Im
just
going
to
ask
you
again,
how
confident
are
you
in
your
knowledge
of
stars?
Circle
yes
if
youre
really
confident
and
no
if
youre
not
confident.
Stephan:
Hibbard: Ok
oh,
thank
you
for
putting
your
name
on
it.
And
um,
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
Stephan:
Umhmm
Hibbard: How
well
oh,
you
said
5?
Ok,
great.
So,
um,
Im
just
going
to
ask
you
the
same
questions,
um,
can
you
describe
what
a
star
is?
Stephan: Its
um,
a
ball
of
gas
that
has
hydrogen
and
helium
Hibbard: Great.
Stephan: That,
um,
it
turns
when,
um,
it
has
no
more,
um,
has
no
more,
um,
what
do
you
call
that?
Um,
it
isnt,
um,
when
it
doesnt
have
anymore,
um
like,
to
make
it
grow.
Like
our,
um
yeah,
I
think
it
shines,
I
think.
Because
then
it
shines
more
and
it
becomes
a
red
dwarf.
Hibbard: Ok.
Stephan: And
its
really
hot.
Lets
see
uh
and
it,
and
it
also,
uh,
it
drops.
Hibbard: It
what?
Stephan: It
could,
uh,
no,
not
drops,
um,
that,
um,
it,
um,
you
could
see,
if
you
are
really
close,
Hibbard: Yeah.
Stephan: That,
uh
wait,
that
if
youre
really
close,
then,
it
um,
then
you
can
actually
feel
its
heat.
Hibbard: Yeah.
Stephan: Like,
like,
its
like
the
sun.
Hibbard: Great.
Excellent.
Cool.
Well,
um,
that
was
wonderful,
um,
can
you
draw
me
a
picture
of
a
star
or
stars?
Stephan:
Hibbard: Nice.
Alright
great.
Do
you
want
to
label
it
in
any
way?
Stephan: Thats
the
outer
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Hibbard: Ok.
Stephan: Yeah,
no
thats
the,
um,
inner,
inner.
Hibbard: Inner,
ok.
Stephan: And
this
is
the
outer.
Hibbard: Great.
Alright.
So,
I
bet
this
isnt
surprising,
but
this
is
part
II,
would
you,
uh,
answer
these
questions
one
more
time,
how
do
you
know
what
stars
are?
yes
or
no.
Stephan: Yeah.
Hibbard: And,
how
well
do
you
think
you
know
what
stars
are?
Stephan: Very
well.
Hibbard: Great,
alright,
thats
it.
Thank
you
so
much.
Youre
the
best.
Thanks
for
your
time.
Stephan: Umhmm
youre
welcome.
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