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Progeny Notes BW
Progeny Notes BW
By
Venkat Ramana, India
Volunteer: Maurcio Avila, Brazil
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Venkat
will fail because, there are so many people in whose charts Jupiter is in 5th house
having children. If one thinks that this principle is not correct he is right as he is not
aware of how to apply this rule. I came to know how to apply this rule when I read
New Techniques Of Prediction I & II written by Late Shri. Sheshadri Iyer (a great
astrologer who claims that he has given only those principles in his book which he has used and
work without any failure) clarified that this works when the karaka is in the Ascendant
of the relevant Divisional chart. Another great astrologer Shri Vadrevu Suryanarayana
Murthy after study of more than 50,000 charts comes out with one of the best books in
astrology (Jataka Narayaneeyam), has given certain points applying Jaimini principles
to study the Child Birth. So on so forth, there are so many scholars who have given
some of the points which are required to be kept in our kitty for the purpose of
prediction. As student one may not go through many books but as a teacher (student)
I felt one should know maximum points on each aspect. With this aim I tried to
compile points pertaining to Progeny which are scattered and brought them in the
form of notes for use in general. If one follows the following rules/steps for predicting
birth of children a fairly good prediction can be given.
Santana Tithi
Deduct the longitude of Sun from the longitude of the Moon, multiply the result by 5
and then divide the multiplication result by 12.
Santana Tithi= ((Long of Moon-Long of Sun) 5) /12.
If Santana Tithi falls in the Brighter Half (SP) (when Moon is ahead of Sun in
Longitude) then progeny is indicated.
Even if Santana Tithi falls in Brighter Half (SP) 4th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 12th and 14th tithis are
not good for progeny and similarly Visti, Chatushpada, Naga and Kinstughna
(Shakuni) Karanas are not good for begetting children.
If Santana Tithi falls in the Dark Half (1 to 5th lunar day) then children will be born.
If Santana Tithi falls on 6th tithi then children will be born but with difficulty and
through the help of remedial measures.
If Santana Tithi falls between 7th and 10th (KP) tithis children will be born from the
second marriage after performing remedial measures.
If Santana Tithi falls on 11th tithi of New moon then the chances of having children
are remote.
Many issues are indicated if Jupiter as Lord of 8th house is strong and is aspected by
Lagna Lord.
Powerful Lord of 2nd house posited in 5th house and aspected by Jupiter indicates
birth of children.
When the Lord of Navamsha occupied by the lord of 5th house is conjoined or
aspected by benefics or when the Lord of 5th house is in benefic Saptavarga or when
the Lord of Navamsha occupied by Lord of 5th house is in Ascendant, then birth of
children is assured.
1st child should be seen from 5th house, 2nd children from 7th house and 3rd children
from 9th house.
In D-9 dispositor of the 5th lord and Jupiter need to be considered. Their position in
Rasi chart should be strong.
In D-7 Lagna and Lagna Lord need to be considered.
Absence of Progeny
Lord of Ascendant, Lord of Moon sign, Lord of 5th house, Lord of 7th house and
Jupiter are weak.
Lord of Ascendant, Lord of Moon sign, Lord of 7th house, 5th House and Jupiter are
posited in 6th, 8th and 12th houses.
The 5th house is occupied or aspected by malefic planet.
Sun is placed in odd Navamsha (Gemini/Aquarius) and Moon in even Navamsha
(Virgo/Capricorn) with mutual aspect in D-1 chart.
Saturn is placed in even Navamsha (Virgo/Capricorn) and Mercury in odd
Navamsha (Gemini/Aquarius) with mutual aspect in D-1.
Sun is placed in even Navamsha (Virgo/Capricorn) and Mars in odd Navamsha
(Gemini/Aquarius) with mutual aspect in D-1.
Moon is placed in Ascendant in an odd Navamsha (Gemini/Aquarius) aspected by
Mars from an even Navamsha (Virgo/Capricorn).
Adoption of a child
The 5th house falls in Gemini, Virgo, Capricorn or Aquarius and has association or
aspect of Saturn or Mandi.
The 5th Lord is weak and has no connection with Ascendant Lord and 7th Lord.
The 9th House is afflicted by Saturn with Mandi and Ascendant Lord badly
disposed to 9th house and its Lord.
Lord of the 5th house is in a sign of Saturn in Navamsha and is in conjunction with
Mercury and Saturn.
The 5th house from Jupiter in the AshtakaVarga of Jupiter contains more benefics
points contributed by planets occupying the signs of Saturn either in Rashi or
Navamsha.
The Moon is placed in 5th house either in Rasi or Navamsha in a sign owned by
Saturn and is associated with planets other than Saturn.
If the Lord of 5th house is in Saturns sign in Navamsha and Jupiter and Saturn are
in their own sign then a son is born after adoption.
For Vrishchika (Scorpio) Lagna Rahu is Bahu Putra karka but if Rahu is conjoined
with Venus in 5th house and Moon is placed in the 8th house then the native may be
childless.
If Moon is posited in 5th or 9th houses from Upa-pada it gives only one male child
(Ek-putra yoga).
If Venus+Mercury+Saturn+Mars are posited in 5th or 9th houses from Upa-pada the
native will have no male child (Anapathya).
Number of Children
Take the 5th and 9th houses from Jupiter in Jupiters BAV.
Let's say that 5th house has 4 points and 9th house has 4 points too.
The points contributed by the following planets must be excluded:
1. Jupiters enemy planets;
2. 5th Lords enemy planets;
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As per Jaimini method though Sun and Rahu are natural malefic planets, but for the purpose of
children they are considered as Bahu Putra Karakas Ravi Rahu Gurubhi Bahuputraha (Bahu means
more than two, Putra denotes children (son) and Karaka is significator).
3.
4.
5.
6.
Planets in debilitation;
Planets placed in enemy house;
Planets owning the debilitation sign of Jupiter and 5th Lord;
Points contributed by Saturn (Since Saturn owns Capricorn, the debilitation
sign of Jupiter).
The remaining count indicates the number of children.
retrograde motion .
Jupiter should aspect 5th house or its Lord; 9th house or its Lord either in direct or
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retrograde motion .
Mars should aspect 5th house or its Lord; 9th house or its Lord either in direct or
retrograde motion within 75 days of the child birth.
Sun should aspect one of the above four point within a month of the child birth.
Moon should aspect one of the above points within 72 Hours of the child birth.
Dasa and Antar dasa
Dasha of the Lagna or Lagna Lord, 5th house or 5th Lord, 9th house or 9th Lord.
Dasha/Antar dasha of 2nd, 5th or 11th Lords.
Dasha/Antar dasha of Lagna Lord in the Saptamsha chart.
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Aspects of retrograde planets should also be evaluated as if they are placed in the previous house.