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MEMORANDUM

TO: D o m c e Smith
FROM: A l l i m Barter

DATE: Friday, June 30,2006

RE; Analyst Trip to Iraq

The following retired military analysts have accepted our invitation and confirmed thatthey will
travel with us to Iraq, July 7-11.

Brigadier Genetal David Grangt (USA, Retired) CNN


Major General James "Spider" Marks, USA, Ret. withCNN
Major General Don Shcpperd, W A F , Ret. with CNN

The following analysts are checking their financing and flight options to see if they can make it
work:

Colonel Ken A l l d (USA, Retired) MSNBC


Lieutenant Colonel Robert Maginnis, USA, Ret. Freelance national radio and TV
Dr. Jeff McCausland. Colonel. USA. Rot with CBS

The following analysts have declined our invitation:


GenenI Wayne Downing, USA, Ret. with MSNBC
Lieutenant Colonel Rick Fmcona W A F , Retired) NBC
Co onel John Garreit (USMC. Retired)
Colonel Jack Stems (USA, Rcl~rcd)MSNBC
General Jack Keane (USA. Reined) ABC
Lieutenant General Thomas Mclncmey. USAF,Ret. with Fox News
Captain Chuw Nash, USN, R d with Fox N e w
Major General Robert Scales. USA. Re1 wilh Fox News
M r Wayoc Simmons, CIA, Ret with Fox News
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sent you*

From: ~awrence, alias Mr OSD PA


Senti Thursday, June 29, 2006 5859 W
TO Jcon Ms OSD PA
CC: CIV, OASO-PA
subiect ~ r a qanalysts
alllaon here i s t h e l i a t you requested..

COHPfRMBD:
Don she-&, OH*
Spider Narks, OH*
Cave Grange, CNM
TPSTATIVE/CHECKING
Ken Allard. MSNBC
Bob Maginnis, freelance radio, regular POX TV Jack Jacobs. MSKBC Jack Ke-, ABC
DXCLINE
General Wayne Downing, USA, Ret. with M m C Lieutenant Colonel Rick Prancona IUSftP,
Retired) NEC Colonel John Garrett umu, Retired) Lieutenant: General Th-s Mcimerney,
USRF, R e t . with Pox Mews Major General Robert s c a l e s , USA, Bet. with Fax N- M r . Maw
Simnions, CIA, Ret. with pox News
a 29,20065:54PM

Subject: F W Travel

here is *re we stand:


we have a definite yes from:
don ahepperd, CUM (booked his refundable travel) spider narks, 001 (was going t o get his
staff to work hia ticket) dave grange, am (wax going to get his staff to work his ticket1
we have a maybe f r m :
ken allard, MSNBC (waiting to hear if ~ n b will
c pay tor it1 bob maginnia ( j u s t heard from
him chat he might be able to gee gone of him neMorlr to pitch in & little, if so, he's
I jack :aeoba, MSNBC (if he can go directly from london --
haven't gotten a response
from him on chat propo~all jack keane, ABC (will get back to n
l
a- suggestions of who we could still invite:
cdr peter brookea. fox and heritage (national flecurity fellow) jin c à § r a f a fax and
heritage (international studies fellow1 ltc qordon cucullu, fox
here are the ones that have -id no8

Simmons, CIA, R e t . with ? o x s e w


and the onem i didn't ask b/c they already bold we they'd be out of town:
Dr. Jeff ~ccauflland,Colonel. USA, ~ e t .with CBS (1 will ftak to aee if hà wanes to re-
route hi* return trip) captain chuck u u h , u s , ~ e t .with FOX new

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subject, Re. Travel

a : did a cnn program on gitwo from london. 1 thought 1c went well


this is the firat time i have been able to cheek email. i gather from this email that we
r e expected Co pay foe our air fare. i don't know whether my networks will help but iall
c r y to check aad let you know by Saturday morning
. fginal ...g. .
PiOB CIV. OASD-PA"
> Gent m e r

d e t a i l s f o r our t r i p are cowing together. I Danced to update you


> on the s t a t u s BO t h a t you e m book your t r a v e l . There ham been anocher
> s l i g h t change --
we ¥ppreci&fc your f l e x i b i l i t y on t h i s . YOU should
--
> b o o k your t i c k e t s i n t o KHI a r r i v i n g the morning of t h e 8 t h no l a t e r
> t h 10 am. We w i l l mot overnight 1" Kuwait, but w i l l board a milair
l i g h t e a r l y t h a t afternoon. Iâ you need to a r r i v e the evening
b e f o r e , please l e t me know and we will try to work out çccoiao<iati for you

 If you are able, book.the following f l i g h t . It i s on s a l e f o r $1,800


> r i g h t now on Orbiti.

v BA Flight 124 departing IAD at 8 - 0 5 M i n J u l y 7 , connecting through


> mndon to n 6:30 m on m l y 8 . his is the
BA 1 5 7 a r r i v i n g i n t o ~ * at
> i d e a l f l i g h t . The seen=* you book, t h e t x t t e n

> we will e n d the r e m i n d e r of t h e day the 6th i n country and remain


> memight. T k following day w i l l be a full day of v i s i t s and
% briefings, as w i l l the day of t h e l o t h . He w i l l be depçrtin the
> country the night of the 10th. and w i l l overnight i n Kuwait. YOU
should book t i c k e t returning to t h e U.S. the morning of t h e n t h .

Pleaee l e t me Icnov ASAP today i f you are a b l e t o wake t h e t r i p aa we


> a r e United i n t h e lumber of people we CM take on this t r i p . If y o u
> r e unable t o joan us, we w i l l ham t o extend the i n v i t a t i o n t o
> someone e l s e and we a r e looking a t a very e i g h t tiweframe as i s .

>Again, t h i a i n v i t a t i o n i a not t r a i r f a r a m and we appreciate your


%discretion. Pleaee do not share with anyone t h a t you have been
>invited t o j o i n us.

I look forward to hearing frou you and we are looking forward to a


> great t r i p ;

> Thanks again for your f l e x i b i l i t y ...

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t o n s sad Public Liais The Pentagon Washington,

HY TIHES
Subkt FW Trip

should I Invite bing west???

0:Lawrence, Dallas Mr OSD PA


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Subject Trip

Dallas:
I sincerely regret that I win not be able to attend this trip. Keeping my aMIne up makes il
financially difficult at this time. Have a safe trip.
Wayne
From: L m e e Dallas Mr OSD PA
sent:
To: gr;,y pM
cc: Bartoe! ANmn Ms OSD PA
Subject: RE Sheppard Trip Report

Acluatly. it mbht be betterto fmtsend it around undodored...planedelete my Infofromthe email chain. Thanks.

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Sent; FrBuy, June 23,2006 129 PM
To: Lawolce.Dallas Mr 0 5 0 PA
Subject Glmo trip report

Gitmo Trip Report

I t was my second trip to Ouaotanamo, the last being a year ago. A collection o f media analysts,(CNNand Fox),
radio comibutm, lawyers, writers, DoD deputy assistant secretaries, i t was another whirlwind adventure out -
ofthe chocks at Andrews AFB as aguest o f DoDonNavy mil-air at 730 AM, 3:15 en route to Cuba; landat
Gitmo Airfield, Navy launch to the windward side, visit the detention facility all day; receive briefs,Jong waier-
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taxi back to the airfield, wheels up at 5:00 PM and back to Andrews by 8:15 whewl.

Iwish all o f America, i n fact ail o f the concernedworld, would go becausethey could draw their own
conclusions and stopasking me. The world, at least America, would be proud of Rear Admiral Harry Hairis, the
Joint Task Force Conunander-GTMO and histroops. Thoughtful, articulate, professional, concerned, serious.
but with panache, a '78 USNA grad, H m i s stayed with us all day giving and pankipling in the briefingsand
answering questions, some very hard ones. Army Col. Mike Bumgarner. in charge of detaineeoperationsand 35
yearsas an MP, wiu the hostofounour through ail the facilities. including individual cells,cellblocks.
recreation areas, medical facilities and interrogationOpS where we viewed an HVT (high value target)
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iniemgation. ...and then there were other participants briefs from the "other" agencies, law enforcement and
intelligence. Bumgamer could be a popular county sheriff- he is hometownAmerica - he could get elected
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anywhere may happen as he is nearingthe end o f his career. he cares about his troops and the detainees-
even theones that have threatened to kill himand his family,

We started with briefings over a halal meal at the Camp Delta mess hall. The meal was tasty and one of three
composingthe4200 daily calories offered each detainee. Special meals are also offered for vegetarians,
diabetics, etc. The food is good.

A professional medicalstaffwith a fully-equipped hospital, including major surgical capabilities, mental health
and dental looks after the detainees. The docs and nurses wear "stab vests" as they provide care... hmmm.

l k facilities mm d m ,m b l i n g m y modem h i ~ h w u r i t yU.S. Mson - and -


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expensive, new ones being constructed to reduce manpower requirements and provide for an extended stay, or
an expanded GWOT.

Some importantquestions:

p?- ofwrse - that was t k p u w of the kip, to hear the US.


government side of the story, the other side is provideddally in the media, some informed, most by those who
have never been to Gitmo. A visitor is at the m r c y of local officials, but one also has lots o f time to areue.
inquire, question, disagree, exchange ideas, p v i d e allemate views. suggeslions.I t is a healthy environment for
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, an intellectualexchange. One has free access to talk to any o f the staff

p'i YOUsee any evidence ofmistreatmeia? -


ofcoursenot. nor would one expect l o o n an arranged visit, but
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there is another importantreason no mistreatment is going on. There may have been some missteps and policy
&ions at the old Camp X-ray (long closed), but GITMO has known for a long lime that the eyes of the
world are on them. There is simply too much supervision, too much professionalism, too much pride to make
anything bad intentionally happen. Additionally, all interrogatorswill tell you that mistreatment is counter-
productive. The only thing that works, they insist, is to establish rapport over a long period of time and
eventually almost everyonetalks, providing small pieces of big puzzles that can eventuallyamalgamate into a
useful portrait.

Whv don't we avoid all this wntro- and rimnlv declare the detainees as POWs and comely with the Geneva
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Conventions^ because81 isn't that simple - the detaineesare not soldiers o f a nanon stale, are not an organized
army and are not signatories 10 internationalconventions, nor do they comply with the Laws ofArmed Conflict,
This may requiresome new legislation. This is a different sort of war i n which the old rules and laws are not
adequate, many do not apply, thus, we are creatingnew processes and trying to insure justice and human rights
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in the process i t is hard, real hard and incidentally we comply with most o f the provisions of the Geneva
Convention, the ones that make sense, especially humane ueament. I n all previouswars we have detained
POWS and released them at the end o f the war, and tried those suspected o f heinous crimes- the same thing is
being anempled in this war.

But vou must admit that the orisoners have no "due process"- wrong. One may not like the process (and the
Suoreme Court will likclv rule imminentiv on its lesalitv). but there is a well-ordered due DTOCCSS. one that was
suggestedby Supreme court lustice ~andra~ a 0y' C o n k r who encouraged the U S, to design mechanismsthat
c m o l v with Am& V of theGeneva Convention Article V states ifthere is nlauslhledoubt ofa detainee's
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stni-s are they or are they not, enemy combatants aprocess must heestaol shed 10 determine that fact Thus.
the administration establishedthe Combat Slams Review Tribunais(CSRTs1and Admintstm'ivc Revieu
Boards fAKR< venr, v,case re-ççnmin ono that review a 0 ai,ailabie facts and infnmmion tnoelmine Is the
deiaineean enemy wmbatant, deserving detention, or not?

My don't wwt-i - -
svstem lmwen. m n d lwies. h e x ~ a b ?s o d s p t . tat It
doc3 not work in war and that has been long recognized There are about 1,000 foreign terrorists incarcerated I n

infrasmciure. War simnlv does not fit that mold. The nonnal investicativenrocesses used in U.S. criminal trials
- M randa nghis. chain ofcustody of evidence. etc i s simply unpracticalwhen applied to* comwt situation
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Cnme i s from Wars warfare is from Venus - the two s mply aon 1mate Those uho cry for criminal
prosecution under the U S justice system shou d read aanui the na'ure ofwar and hm just~cchas been upplied
over the years - the two systems are simply designed for entirely different scenarios.

So. whv don't we use tilunWw 7C -o - the militwy justice system is the q u i v d m t o f t k
US. civil justice system modified for military use. It is anextremelyfair system with rights to free counsel,
luries of true n e m and automatic review: however. the same rule!; annlv
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to evidence. Testimnnv. etc. as amlv
[he L S c i b i ;an justice system the system is simply inadequate for warfare during which POWsaredeuuned
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and released after a war. or tncd for war crimes under memattonal statutes covenng the Laws of Arnica
Conflict. This is what 1heU.S. isattempting lo do withOitmo detainees.

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Aren't many ofthe Giuno detainees lust low-level foot soldiers that eot swept-nol a battle? some are,some
aren't. 759 detainees have been sent to Giuw. Almost ail were detained in Afghanistanor Pakistan. Most u
suspcmd ofbeing high-level or important Al-Qaeda 01 Taliban, or a significant threat as terrorists, thus thar
transfer 10 Gilmo. None have been sent from Iraq. About 460 remain. The remainder have been released (13

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have been fflotured or killed a n i n in the OWOT after release) or transferred back to their home countries or to a
third countrythai has agreed to abide by the international a&mcniagainit torture. All detainees have
received CSRTstodetermine their status and all will receive yearly ARBS (not required by Geneva
Conventions) to determine if they should continue to be detained or released.

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Manv detainees have been there since 2002. Surety we have exhausted their intelltaence value7 nono,
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according 10 intelligence officials and interrogators. imerrogations m l i n u c and mportant infonnalion on
l and internaliund eel s continue 10 emciee tha* have uncovered and orev-nted sienificantattacksand
i c e " doun dangerous naworks, especiallv in foreign countries Additionally, man) detainees are cooperating
The main weapon of L.S intcrrogatora is time Ihedetaineesall wain 10 get om Most figured the) cooperate.
the) will eventuall\ be released - 11 is a good (mess As new characien emerge w e n &erg ire idlled or
detained in the OWOT ( W i d Sneik Vohammed. a-Zaqawi et-al 1detainees have important information on
w emerging leaders - their locations, contacts, funding mechanisms, travel patterns, history - this infonnaiion
is extremely valuable and increasing pressure is being put on the worldwide networks - thcir bench is not deep,
Further, in the fight against IEDs some of the detainees are providing extremely valuable information on
designs, trigger mechanisms and tactics - several of the detainees were MAJOR IED and explosive players. ,

Se, whal 1s coin= to h a m n to h e re- deminc@ - it d w d s - the Supreme Cmrl m a d e . Ifthe


administration has its way there will continue to be CSRTs and ARBS. Just like POW$ at the end of previous
wars, some detainees will be released to go home at thc end of the GWOT. Others will be referred to "military
commissions" for heinous crimes just as they w m in previous wars. And, when will the GWOT end?- beats
me, but certainly not yet and the thought of releasing dangerous terrorists dedicated to doing us harm should be
chilling,

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incarcerated for four years without access to iustice, lawyers, due -a^ - 0n.y some ofthat K true Some
drtaineci
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milttan commissions (some sinned, none completed due to lawyers flmg for cow-directed siavs), ifthe
Supreme Court approves than. serve as justice an0 theequivalent of grand juries - reasons to believe ihe
detainees are or are not enemy combaiams an0 the! wi.1 either be referred toand proseculed by military
comm.ssions, or released - uatcn for the Supreme Coun decisions Some delamees are involved with lawyen
and lnc! arc provided lawr-clicnt privileges

Ufub~~x-7 o k talked to thost who f a d the w t m


- w e saw where the s u ~ ~ t d c ~ l oplace.
those (meoicai staff) viho attempted to revive them This was a devastatinx expcnenee for all involved The 5taN
was uulv saddened bv the event. There have been over 40 orevious anemnts Drciented. It mould be no sunwise
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Israel) there will be more a n e m m some Iikelv 'successful. Ttw Oltmn isiaff characterizes the çuicidas a
defiant act of asymmetric warfare. not one of dcpresed prisoners who have c m c to the end of their ropc
Incidentally.there *ill also lhkelv be ancmpts b> detainees to kill guards - lhc detainees refiular \ threatmihe
guards and tell them !hey will ki 1them and their families when lhey get OJI Enpcct other oad tnmg to nappen at
Oitmo Th s is not you, Nn ofthemill collection ot compliant prisoners

But what about the urisoner who was b e h e for&-fed?- when detainees perform hunger strikes and those
actions become dannerous to health. the decision has been made to insert feedins lubes to ore.- life - this is
the same procedure~hathas been a&% mid is used& the U.S. ~&au Z&&d Ihi- srandird- -
equipment used in U S. hospitals A small 1 W men tube is inserted through tne nasal cavity, down the throat -
the area is lubncalcd and ancstnetlzed, the procedure not palnfal. Adm. Harris had the procedure performed on
him to test the system.

What about the Red Cross views of Gittno?-ihc Red Cross views areconfidential and closely-held, but the Red
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