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Dear sri Tin Win Ji, For collecting and compiling various references on the said subject, you have taken time to kindly respond to my mail. thanks for the same. Foreign settlement is obtaining citizenship. Green card, I agree with you, is a permit to stay for a period of 10 years. The official name of Green card is Permanent Resident of USA card. During the tenure of Green card, the holder, after completion of 5years period can apply for citizenship. Therefore, I consider Both Green card and citizenship as permanent settlement. In the case of applicant for G.C., who is already in foreign land, cusp 3 (change of residence) is not applicable since he is already changed residence, cusp 9 is not applicable since no long journey is involved as he already made long journedy and cusp 12 is also not applicable since he is already away from his home town. I therefore feel cusps 3, 9 and 12 are not applicable in this case. More appropriately, I feel, sri Bhat's theory of cusps 1 (self effort), 6 (success) and 11 (fulfilment of desire) is applicable. The above is my logical conclusion only. The practical experiences of learned KP followers may be different. If so, my doubt is why such differences arise ? what such differences suggest to us ? How to conclude a common and unified rule for the question WHETHER I WILL GET G.C. ? Of course the WHEN is decided by the DBAS of the concerned house significators and transit. I want your own practical experiences, if any, and your own opinion and logical conclusion. No more references (already we have) of what others said on this topic. Thanks and Regards. Naidu KP

K. P. Naidu, Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., Nowroji Road, Maharanipeta, VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. --- On Thu, 1/11/12, TW <tw853@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: TW <tw853@yahoo.com> Subject: [k_p_system] Re: Foreign settlement - Part 1: Basic Foreign Going Rules To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com

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Date: Thursday, 1 November, 2012, 10:04 AM Foreign Going Rules: Framework for Study 1. Basic Foreign Going Rules a. 12th Cuspal Sub Lord (CSL) signification of house 9,3,12 b. 9th CSL signification of 3,12,(9) c. 5th CSL signification of house 9,12 for foreign studies 2. Foreign Settlement Rules a. 12th & 1st CSL signification of house 9,3,12 b. 12th cusp in the fixed or movable sign c. Jupiter in the house 9 d. 12th CSL Saturn e. 4th house severly inflicted etc 3. Foreign Going byPurpose. a. Combined rule with 12th CSL signification of house 9,3,12 b. Separate rule by purpose 4. Getting Green Card (Permanent Residence/ PR) a. Getting it in native land I) Natal chart analysis II) Horary chart analysis b. Getting it in foreign land I) Natal chart analysis II) Horary chart analysis

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k_p_system/message/42730 5. Return to Mother Land a. For visit b. For settlement

Foreign Going Rules: Part 1 1. Basic Foreign Going Rules a. 12th CSL signification of house 9 9 (long distance travel), 3 (change of residence), 12 (life in an altogether new environment and separation from family) This KP rule (KP Reader III p p 321/ 1971 Edition, Practical Part p 155; Reader VI pp 264, 301) is found valid by the followings: 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) 9) CR Bhatt: Nahshatra Chinyamani pp 96, 144 CR Bhatt: Further Lighst of Nahshatra Chinyamani pp 15, 81 MP Shanmugam: Astrosecrets and KP Part I, 2003, p 208 K Subramaniam (Editor): Astrosecrets and KP Part III, 2002, p 58 KM Subramaniam: Sublord Speaks Part 3 page 133 KP Kuppu Ganapathi, KP & Astrology Year Book 2009 p 58 K Subramaniam, KP & Astrology 2008 p 1 K Subramaniam: KP & Astrology 2005 p 2 K Subramaniam: Astrology for Beginners Vol. 6 p 1064

10) K Hariharan: How to Judge a Nativity p 38; 11) K Hariharan: Krishnamurti Padhdhati p 52 12) N Santhanalingam: KP & Astrology 2002 p 39

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13) Dr. Bal Krishna Singh: KP & Astrology 2002 p 195 14) G Subramaniam, KP & Astrology 2007 p 23 15) Katakam Ramasamy: KP & Astrology 2006 p 46 16) R Gopal: KP & Astrology 2005 p 21 17) TS Bisht: KP & Astrology 1997 p 25 Ref: Rules for Foreign Going, Settlement and Return to Motherland", KPE-zine July 2009 issue, free download @ www.kpastrologer.com 2. It's also found valid in 99 charts out of 100 foreign settlement charts. b. 9th CSL signification of house 3,12 3. The 9th CSL signification of 3,12 (copied from the KCIL horary book appendix table) for long journey appears as foreign going since there is no foreign going in the events relating 12th house, as shown below: House Grouping http://kpastrology.astrosage.com/Home/house-grouping 9. Events relating Ninth House.

Type of Query Primary House Supporting Houses Long Journeys 9 3,12

12. Events relating Twelfth House. Type of Query Repayment of Loan Recovery of Lost article Secret activities as profession Gain in Investment Loss in Investment Primary House Supporting Houses 12 12 12 12 12 5,8 2,6,11 2,11 (10) 2,6,11 5,8

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Danger from involvement in secret activities 12 Imprisonment Receipt of secret documents Absconding Success in research Export Business 12 12 12 12 12

7,8 3,8 4,11 3,8 6,11 2,11 (10)

4. However foreign going seems by the 12th CSL signification of 3,9 . (pp 426-427) 5. Foreign travel: 9th CSL signification of house 3,12 http://www.astroandrewkp.org/administrator/files/Predicting%20with%20KP %20Horary-20100324-193133.pdf c. 5th CSL signification of house 9,12 for foreign studies 6. As per Sri Kanak Bosmia, if 5th CSL signifies 09 or 12 , one can go to foreign countries for higher studies. 7. Even for the basic foreign going rule, there are different rules. So the application of common rules for other categories of foreign going may be an illusion. Any comment or discussion to learn KP only. Thanks and regards, TW

--- In k_p_system@yahoogroups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@...> wrote: > > Dear Learned KP astrologers, > > I find broadly there are THREE house combinations for Foreign settlement - Getting Green Card, Getting Citizenship. They are 1. I, III, IX, XII houses. > Lagna and its sublord signification of IX alongwith III and XII is statistically

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significant for foreign settlement with support of more than two third of survey charts. Location approach is not statistically supported. N. Pandu's approach. Msg. No. 3836 dt 19.04.2005 by sri TinWin. > KP House grouping Part I in KP-Ezine Oct 2007 by sri TinWin.: Foreign settlement (Tested Rule): XII sublord signifies III, IX, XII and during the period of III, IX, XII significators. > Msg No.8617 dt.24.06.2006 by sri Yogesh Lajmi ji. Pages from 39 to 41 of KP & Astrology 2002 by sri MP Shanmugam. > Msg No.11642 dt.18.02.2007 by sri Punit PandeyAll these msgs confirm the above house grouping. > Msg No.11634 dt.18.02.2007 sri Yatendra Sharma said that XII housed signification is not required for those who are already in Foreign land and applying for GC. > Msg. No.21528 dt. 02.01.2009 sri Padmakar Duvva said that if XII sublord is Saturn, one stays abroad. > 2. Houses I, VI, and XI combination is found only in sri C R Bhat's book on "Further Lights on Nakshtra Chinthamani" pages from 192 to 194. Msg.No.3578 dt. 07.04.2005 by sri TinWin. > I house ( efforts of the querent), VI house ( success) and XI house ( fulfilment of desire) are mainly considered. Asc sublord connection with houses IX and XII though considered, main stress is given for VI and XI houses for success or fulfilment of desire.This is a case of obtaining G.C while the applicant is already in USA. Hence IX and XII houses may not be given much importance as I understand. > This House grouping of I, VI, and XI for success or achievement of querent's desire can be considered for every case, not only for getting Green Card. Most of the queries relate to success or fulfilment of querent's desire - getting a job, getting a visa, having a child, getting marriage, having a vehicle, having a house etc., etc., > 3. Houses X, V, IX and XI combination. KP E-Zine of June 2012 sri Kanak Bosmia says success of getting Green Card is assured if X sublord signifies V, IX, XI houses and during the period of significators of V, IX, XI houses. > A clear cut rules are required to avoid confusion in applying the above three methods for Foreign settlement especially for obtaining Green card. Green card is fixed period settlement in foreign land whereas citizenship is a permanent foreign settlement. Clear cut rules for each case if formed by the learned and experienced KP astrologer friends, it will be more useful to the KP followers and to avoid confusion. > Thanks and Regards,Naidu KP > K. P. Naidu, > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > Nowroji Road, > Maharanipeta, > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. >

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