CHRIS BOWEN MP SHADOW TREASURER MEMBER FOR MCMAHON TONY BURKE MP MANAGER OF OPPOSITION BUSINESS SHADOW MINISTER FOR

FINANCE MEMBER FOR WATSON

E&OE TRANSCRIPT PRESS CONFERENCE SYDNEY TUESDAY, 17 DECEMBER 2013 SUBJECT/S: MYEFO, Coalition blow out in Budget deficit, Government decisions, Coalition spending cuts, impact on consumer confidence. CHRIS BOWEN: Good afternoon everybody. Well before the election, Tony Abbott asked the Australian people to enter into a contract with him. That contract involved paying off the debt going into surplus to pay off the debt. Tony Abbott even told us to keep the contract and hold him to account for it. Well today we hold him to account for it. Mr Abbott, youre in breach of your contract with the Australian people. Before the election, Mr Hockey told us he could reduce taxes, return to surplus, all through some magic boost to consumer confidence and business conditions. Well todays the day Joe Hockeys magic pudding economics came crashing down around his ears. Of course, Mr Hockey today released his Budget update, his mini-Budget it was a pretty poor attempt at an alibi. Of course, theres one big hole in the Governments story and thats called the Charter of Budget Honesty. Introduced by Peter Costello, the Charter of Budget Honesty means Treasury and the Department of Finance released the true state of the Budget books during the election campaign. The days of new Treasurers coming in and saying the cupboards bare should well and truly be gone under the Charter of Budget Honesty.

This is a cheap trick from Mr Hockey which ignores the reality of the Charter of Budget Honesty. Is Mr Hockey saying that Treasury and Finance got it wrong during the election campaign with their independent report on the state of the books? Now, page 29 of Mr Hockeys own document makes it clear that $10.2 billion of the $17 billion blowout in this years deficit is down to his decisions. Last week in the Parliament, Mr Hockey, the Treasurer, denied that his decisions were responsible for more than $9.2 billion in the blowout in this years deficit. Well he was wrong and he should apologise to the Parliament for misleading Parliament because his own document tells a very different story 60 per cent or more of the blowout is the responsibility of Mr Hockeys own decisions since becoming Treasurer. Now lets be clear about whats going on here Joe Hockey is softening up the Australian people. Hes preparing the ground for deep and brutal cuts come Budget time, cuts to come which will affect every Australian. This is Mr Hockeys attempt at an alibi. But hes also, its also his attempt to soften up the Australian people for the true Liberal agenda, which is cuts across the board, as they were always planning to do, as we warned they would before the election. Today we see the Budget surplus go the way of Gonski, of NBN, of turn backs and buy backs we see one thing before an election and this Government doing something very very different after the election. Im going to ask Tony Burke to answer his comments and then well take some questions. TONY BURKE: Thanks very much Chris. Every figure that Joe Hockey quoted today claiming that it was the legacy of the previous Government, every one of those numbers included his own actions. We had the very unusual situation today of a Treasurer releasing a document with his own name on it but claiming he wasnt there, a Treasurer desperately wanting to be invisible and hoping the Australian public wont notice how much of what has changed has been under this watch and because of these decisions. More than half, more than half of the increase in the deficit which has happened in just 101 days is because of direct decisions taken by this Government. In 101 days, they have added $167 million a day to Australias deficit the same people who spent years railing against debt and deficit and claiming that they would be able to turn it around from day one. As of today, the claim that they would be a Government of no surprises and no excuses is in tatters. And if anyone listened to Joe Hockeys speech today, they heard excuse after excuse after excuse from a Treasurer wanting to blame everyone but himself and pretend that his own signature wasnt on his own document. BOWEN: Over to you folks.

QUESTION: Why are the figures so different to your last update? BOWEN: Well, as I say, 60 per cent of it is the result of Mr Hockeys decisions. Now there are other changes in parameters corporate tax is down and wages are down under this document that Mr Hockey has released. Mr Hockey might want to explain more about why thats the case. I note that hes also changed the longstanding forecasting methodology for unemployment in years three and four. Youll forgive me for my cynicism. This has been a longstanding procedure which the Howard Government had in place. It was inherited by the Rudd and Gillard Governments, and which we kept in place, which Mr Hockey has changed today. And youll forgive me for the cynicism given that everything that Mr Hockey has done has been to try and make the deficit bigger both in this year and the outer years in order to justify the deep cuts that hes always wanted to introduce. QUESTION: Has the economy deteriorated that much? BOWEN: Well, as I say, the majority of it is Mr Hockeys own decisions. And there are other changes here which show that corporate tax is down which Mr Hockey can explain as Treasurer. He might actually want to accept that, as Tony said, that hes the Treasurer of Australia now. Its his document and hes got to explain whats in it. QUESTION: The Coalitions partly blaming Labor for this because it happened during your time in Government. Shouldnt you hold some responsibility for this? BOWEN: Well, I tell you what we take responsibility for, we take responsibility for the Budget we left the Government that is a Triple A credit rated Budget from three credit rated agencies, three credit ratings agencies, all outlined in the PreElection Forecast, not by me, not by Tony, not by Penny Wong, but by Dr Parkinson and Mr Tune in the Pre-Election Economic Forecast by the independent expert departments of the Government. QUESTION: So the entire blowout youre putting on the present Government [inaudible]? BOWEN: Well, Mr Hockeys responsible for the decisions hes made, which is the majority of the blowout in this years deficit. Now Id say this, there are other changes in parameters through corporate tax reductions, et cetera. Now Im not going to be churlish enough to say that every Government is always responsible for every one of those. Mr Hockey used to say that. He used to say theres no revenue problem, theres only a spending problem. So hes holding himself to a very different test. What Im going to hold Joe Hockey responsible for are his own decisions which he attempts to deny. I saw the Prime Minister yesterday saying thered be no significant new spending under his Government. I mean, is the Prime Minister unaware of the transfer to the Reserve Bank or was he just pretending it didnt happen for politically convenient reasons? Is he unaware of the $3 billion worth of announcements made

by his own Assistant Treasurer on the weekend which are reflected in these figures, or not? Was he unaware of the Governments decision to maintain a tax break for people with more than $2 million in a superannuation account? All these decisions have been reflected in the Mid-Year Economic Forecast and Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey are pretending they didnt happen. QUESTION: What kind of figures would we be seeing under Labor? BOWEN: Well, youd certainly be seeing $10 billion less, $10.2 billion less in this financial year because we would not have transferred the $8.8 billion to the Reserve Bank, we would not have made the other decisions which I have referred to. So at the very least, you would see a $10 billion difference between a Labor administration and Mr Hockeys administration a $10 billion bigger deficit due to Joe Hockeys decisions. QUESTION: Is it the case that theyve ordered the worst case scenario from Treasury? BOWEN: Well whenever a Treasurer starts giving requests to the Treasury for forecasts which go a particular way, I think youre on very dangerous ground and I do I said before, youll forgive me my cynicism when I see changes in forecasting methodology which have been very longstanding, which have existed under Governments of all persuasions being changed by Mr Hockey to match his rhetoric, his chest beating rhetoric when it comes to the scale of the deficit. QUESTION: So youre saying the Government has leant on the Treasury in any sense? BOWEN: No. No. Im saying what I just said - youll forgive my cynicism. BURKE: Its also the case, and you know, its all pretty transparent when you look at what happened with the Reserve Bank Joe Hockey has deliberately tried to make this years deficit as large as possible and then embark on a political strategy which is all about trying to get permission to take the axe to middle Australia. QUESTION: Do you think this will shock potentially Australia into a recession. I mean the figures are pretty BOWEN: Well, Im not going to use the R word you used, you mentioned recession. But I will say that governments need to be very careful about the impact of their statements on confidence. Now Joe Hockey admitted today that he actually wanted to do this in January and the Opposition and the media shamed him into doing it earlier. But Id say this, what a Treasurer says is important for confidence, what a Prime Minister says is important for confidence, what a Deputy Prime Minister says is important to confidence. The Deputy Prime Minister of Australia yesterday said Australia was in an economic downturn his words an economic downturn. Well

thats not reflected in Treasury advice. And when Australians hear the Deputy Prime Minister talk about economic downturns, we do have to be very careful about the impact it will have on confidence. Weve already seen consumer confidence dip five points in the last month. And of course Mr Hockey said hed have magic pudding economics which would see confidence higher under him just by the very act of being elected and his swearing in as Treasurer, business and consumer confidence would be improved. Well its dipped five points already and based on his performance and the performance of the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister over the last 48 hours, I would be concerned about impacts on business and consumer confidence. QUESTION: Can you quantify that at all? BOWEN: No, well impacts on confidence are by their very nature difficult to quantify, but when Australians hear the sort of language theyre getting from their Government leaders at the moment I think that the impacts on confidence could very well be real and deeply concerning. Any more questions? QUESTION: Are you concerned about how long its going to take now to reach surplus? BOWEN: Well Mr Hockey could have outlined today a pathway back to surplus. Nobodys pretending that this is easy. Nobodys pretending that we should get back to surplus even next year. Ive said that an attempt, deep cuts next year would be a hammer blow to economic activity. But you can and should outline how youre going to do it. Not just say everythings on the table as Mr Hockeys done today again doing something very different to what he said hed do before the election. But outline rules and a process back to surplus. Mr Hockeys failed to do that today. QUESTION: And just on a different topic the head of the NBN Co says that its possible to reduce the cost of the Coalitions version of the NBN. Do you think thats possible? BURKE: Look I havent seen those comments. Theres, theres no doubt that Malcolm Turnbulls embarking on a strategy at the moment thats not about making the internet as fast as it was going to be under Labor and I think thats transparent. Malcolm gets a lot of credit for having previously run a telco. I was one of OzEmails customers. It was a very good dial-up service but rather different to what Labor had planned for the NBN. BOWEN: Okay. Thanks very much.

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