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- So when you give deeksha you speak of this deeksha as a

neurobiological process that affects the brain?

Bhagwan : Yes, when we give deeksha it is like the passing on of an
electrical energy that affects the brain, the spinal cord and what we
call the ductless glands or the ‘Chakras’. So most of the work is
being done on the Frontal lobes and the Parietal lobes of the brain.
There is an activation of the frontal lobes and a deactivation of the
parietal lobes, plus some energies are sent into the ductless glands
to reactivate these chakras. So all this in turn produces a hole in
the mind and a link is established between God and man.Thereafter
what happens is God’s work. Up to then, of course, we can do certain

Q - Right. So when you speak about losing the ‘self’, that’s what
happens when you make this hole in the wall ?

Bhagwan : When you make the hole in the wall, then God can take
over and then he works on the senses, liberating the senses from the
mind, from the clutches of the mind. When that happens you lose
your ‘self’. That part of the work happens through God himself.
As he is the creator, he works like a computer to rearrange the
brain and he takes over.

Q - So each person’s enlightenment is absolutely unique then ?

Bhagwan : It’s absolutely unique. It depends on his background, his
conditioning, what happened in his childhood, his own seeking, his
religious conditioning. So all these things are involved.

Q - Bhagavan, many many people have been seeking for many
many lifetimes and been through all kinds of Practices, Sadhanas,
Rituals and ceremonies, traditions and many times they feel they
have only been able to go so far and none have been able to
actually cross over into enlightenment. So how is this different?
Bhagwan : When I look at a person, I don’t see him as a first-timer.
I only see millions of years behind him. I believe that all of humanity
has finished all the work they need to do. I think everybody has
been well prepared through so many lives. And therefore now is
the time to get it.All the hard work has been done.I believe
everybody has done the hard work, and now the fruit is there to
be had.

Q- So there’s no one who is not a seeker?

Bhagwan : There is no one who is not a seeker. They could be
seeking in different ways…They could be seeking without even
knowing they are seeking.Without knowing they are seeking…

Q - So as this work progresses, is it possible that more and more
people will become enlightened who have no idea about
enlightenment, who have never been seeking enlightenment, it
will simply just happen?

Bhagwan : Yes, what is likely to happen is that there are now
people who are enlightened who are able to give deekshas to
people who are able to get into good states. But very soon, may
be a few months from now, those who will receive deeksha from
them will naturally become enlightened. And not only that, they
will be able to give deeksha to others and make them enlightened.
This process will continue for some time. There will come a time
when without deeksha the whole of mankind is going to make it.
Once the critical level is reached there is going to be a
spontaneous occurrence across the planet.

Q - What will this world will look like, in practical terms ?

Bhagwan : In practical terms the world will will look very different.
We will not be able to talk about me being an Indian or you being an
American or somebody else being an African. We cannot talk in terms
of races and nationalities or I can’t say I’m a Hindu, Christian, or a
Muslim. So all these things which divide man will just disappear.
All these things will just drop off. There will be no need for these
things. All these divisions will not exist. We will become just human
beings. We will become one family. It’s not a concept, this will just
happen. This is when we will truly become humans. But as long as we
are going to define ourselves in terms of nationalities, religions,
cultures, race, we will still continue to be tribal and very primitive.
We are becoming human now. It will definitely happen.

Q - What about people who are still into power, control and ego
games and who may not want to get enlightened ?

Bhagwan : Yes, people who stubbornly resist enlightenment will
also naturally become enlightened. At that point there won’t be
any resisting it. Nobody can say “I will stay out of enlightenment”.
That is not possible. It’s a natural occurrence. It’s human evolution.
So all these power games and ego games will just stop. You can just
not do it anymore. The brain will function differently.

Q: Bhagavan, why doesn't the mind stay concentrated on one
thing ? What should I do if it has to stay put at one point ?

Bhagavan : See, the mind, breath and kundalini form a triangle.
If you tamper with one you'll be tampering the other two. Suppose
the breath is not constant or steady, the mind also will not be
constant andsteady. Similarly if the kundalini is vibrating too much,
then also the mind will be unstable. Kundalini will start vibrating
depending on the temperature, air pressure, depending on the kind
of people around, depending on the food you've eaten, the clothes
you are wearing - so many factors. So as the kundalini is vibrating,
the mind also becomes unsteady and becomes unfocused. So also is
breath. In fact breath is a crucial element and most people do not
even know how to breathe. That's why I often say that, children
must be taught in school as to how to really breathe. When this is
done, you'll actually find that the mind becomes steadied. Without
setting right these two things the mind will be very very shaky. And
of course if you are not able to do these things, you can very well
ask me inside and I will steady it. And you'll have a very focused
mind. It's not very difficult to achieve.
Qs: Bhagavan, during this havan sapthaham,we have all been sharing the great miracles
which have been happening across India through the Padukas.We have seen a greater
phenomenon. And today even other objects like kalasham,deepam and also the Srimurti
has begun to move. Would the Lord kindly reveal to us the Lord's Sankalpa behind this
phenomenon and how does the Lord want us to proceed regarding this phenomenon?

Bhagavan:What you are all seeing is the beginning of the miracles that are going to happen.
The main idea of these miracles is to put people directly in touch with Amma Bhagavan.That
is,you should be able to talk to Amma Bhagavan about your problems directly.Through the
Padukas,you can actually find out what is the situation…..whether this problem is going to be
solved or not;or if it is to be solved what should you do.For example…you say the financial
problems to be solved and you touch the Padukas,if the Padukas doesn't move,what it means
is,that something has to be done to solve the problem.Suppose the Padukas move backward,it
means whatever you do,the problem might not be solved.

Then also it can be solved…..but the chances are very little. What the Padukas are telling
is….Don't try it's a waste. It is going to be very very difficult. But even then you can talk and
find out what should be done. If it is possible,you can do. But, if the Padukas don't move what
we are telling is,the problem can be solved….but you must do these things. Then ,you must
start trying. Should I set right my relationship with my parents….? If the Padukas move,then
that is the problem. Or you could have cheated somebody and you might have forgotten that
you have cheated somebody….then,you and so I have cheated,suppose I go and help
that man out, will my problem be solved?....then the Padukas might move.Or you have hurt
somebody,then it will move.

Suppose let us say,Bhagavan paduka is moving and Amma paduka is not moving,then probably
you have set right your relationship with your mother.Suppose it is the other way round,where
Bhagavan Paduka is not moving ,then you have set right your relationship with your father or
your grandfather…so you have to undergo some kind of training which your dasas will guide you
as to how to make full use of the Padukas…if they are moving slowly, it means problem is going
to take time to be solved. If is is going to move fast, it means it is going to be solved very very

The other thing is ,if you have health problem, if you will pray appropriately, the Padukas are
likely to move and stay for sometime on that part of the body. And if the Padukas stay, it
means they are healing that part of the body. Suppose, they have got a kidney problem and
then they accordingly move and stop, the kidney problem is going to be solved…if there is
heart problem then heart problem will be solved. So the Padukas are not for giving you a yes or
no answer or telling you what is the problem but also to do lot of healing.

Besides this , the Padukas will also give shocks like the Srimurti gives and the Padukas can also
do Samskara Shuddhi for you….very very fast Samskara Shuddhi what we take long time in
university can be done very fast in the Padukas. If you pray i.e the person who is touching can
be any person….you must pray to Amma Bhagavan- "Please do Samskara Shuddhi for him"….that
is where the Maha Deeksha person is becoming important. You have gone to Mahadeeksha, you
know what all has happened. So from that knowledge, you must guide. So you must tell- "Amma
Bhagavan please do a Samskara Shuddhi for him."As the Padukas move Amma Bhagavan will do
a full Samskara Shuddhi for him. He may be able to see what happened in the womb, what
happened in the four baskets, what happened in the delivery….all this will become very clear
for him. But he wont understand what exactly is happening…why is Bhagavan showing him all
this. He has touched the Padukas … minute he is in the mother's womb all things are
happening and he has been delivered and he won't understand what is happening. You as a
Mahadeeksha person you must tell him-Bhagavan is now removing your problems when you
were in your Mother's womb,you are stuck in these baskets Bhagavan is clearing it…something
happened during delivery. Bhagavan is correcting it. That knowledge is very important. That is
why you have to interfere and fully educate him. In other words, you can do a complete course
having the Padukas.

The other thing is ,after the Padukas have started moving,you get used to it more and more. If
you have some doubts ,you must ask Amma Bhagavan. What does this mean? What should I do?
Then Amma Bhagavan will start talking inside you. Many of you want to have the Antaryamin
i.e if you start doing this with the Padukas ,Antaryamin will naturally get activated. You will
get clarity from Amma Bhagavan. If not must immediately go to the Srimurti, touch the
Srimurti and ask for clarity. Amma Bhagavan will directly speak from the Srimurti or they will
speak inside you also.
Basically, the Padukas are for solving your problems and doing Samskara Shuddhi for you. That
is the role. Padukas are also there to transform you. But to go into higher states, you must
touch the Srimurti. Now if you touch the Srimurti, you must touch it for 1 min, not 10 secs or
15 secs …not simply touch like that. You must touch it for full 1 min.
Now some people will feel nothing. But , after sometime when they lie down, they will feel
some thing is happening to them. That is the lowest level of Deeksha or blessing which Amma
Bhagavan are giving.

Next level will be, you will feel some kind of energy flowing through you…..something is
happening to the brain and some state is coming…that is higher level.
Third level is , you will have lot of vibrations….something more is happening in the brain and a
good state will be there.
The full power is when you get an electric shock, actual electric shock…you get when you put
your hand in the plug point, the shock you get a milder version…you get from the Srimurthi and
you will actually feel something is happening in the brain because, We are working on the
brain. Then you will get into a state which will be permanent.

Now next day when you will do it, the shock will be more. Sometime, it can be little less also.
Generally it will be the same or more and the effect will also be more. That is,today at this
level…tomorrow at that level….day after tomorrow you will go at that level. Here, again
touching should be for one minute. This way if you are a mahadeeksha candidate, you will get
more and more states. These states are permanent states. They normally will not go away.
They will go on accumulating…until finally you have become a full Jeevan Muktha in your own

Now first time we used the Srimurthi, we had done the avahanam. That is how the Srimurthis
were used in the intensives. Because,my idea was, we can't be traveling all over the world
doing all progarmmes. We will do avahanam to the Srimurthi and the Srimurthi will do all the
work. Now,we have done a second Avahanam. That's why we have increased power….you must
touch for one minute. After sometime we will do another Avahanam. Then you must touch for
2 min. Then we will do one more Avahanam. You must touch for 3 min. In 3 minutes it's all
over. That is, you will get full Jeevan Mukti by merely touching for 3 min. Your work then is to
go for a Satsang, go to any village or any where give a talk……first give deeksha to start the

Keep the Srimuthi make them touch the Srimurthi for 3 min … Jeevan Mukti is guaranteed.
Now, It is happening for schedule tribe people. A few thousand people have achived full
enlightenment. Among the schedule tribe, because they are very close to nature and they are
much more simple people… just by touching the Srimurthi… they touch for more than 1 min…
sometimes they are going up to 3 min also and they speak exactly the way the Buddha spoke.
The Buddha after he became enlightened, he said-

" In the seeing just the seeing. In the hearing just hearing"

That's what the Buddha spoke. The same way tribals who knew nothing are speaking. Among
the tribale, it has started. Let us hope soon you also will become like the tribals, then you will
become fully enlightened.

So Padukas will prepare for enlightenment. Srimurthi will give enlightenment.
This is the man purpose. But we will be giving more and more power to Padukas and the
Srimurthi. Your role as Maha Deeksha givers … if you take the Padukas and the Srimurthi to give
a starting Deeksha the engine must be started. You must explain to them certain things and
after they have got into the state, you will again explain to them certain things. Otherwise
they will not understand. They will be in a state, but they won't know what it is? That gyana is
required. Not enough if you have a state. That gyana you will have to provide. That gyana we
are giving yoy in the Meha Deeksha… more we will be giving it to you. So if we do like this, the
whole country will become enlightened very naturally the Golden Age would have come.
Because all the country would have become like a One Family.

Now if we become like a one family tell me – What division can be there among people? There
cannot be any division. Isn't it? Today there are all kinds of division… class division, caste
division … then we have knowledge division so every kind of division we have got. Because of
this division there are problems. Not that all people will become equally rich. But the rich man
will not fell he is rich, the poor man will not feel he is poor…because rich man will share his
wealth with the poor. Somebody is going on the road… he is hungry…you will ask him to come
inside and take care of him. That is how the things will start happening; This is like one family.
So how can there be any suffering in the world? Everybody will be helping everybody else.

Even now, lot of our devotees…there is no of flats. They all have taken Deeksha 100 or 200
people. All have become like one family. It is not only happening in India but also in other

It is called Oneness Family. There are apartments. They all have taken Deeksha. They have
become one family and some devotees are even building colonies also… only our devotees.
Buying land, Building plots… becoming like one colony. It is becoming like one huge family. In
some places , our devotees are converting everybody. There they are becoming one family. So
this kind of world's most powerful country …once we achives this oneness, we will move at very
very great speed.

The most important thing is…earlier Hinduism never neglected the external world. Artha and
Kama were given equal importance. Then there was dharma…helping others and finally Mukthi
or Moksha. After the advent of Buddhism, we neglected artha and Kama and even dharma and
the nation declined. So, we take Tibet for example ….Once upon a time, China was ruled by
Tibet. Now who is ruling Tibet? China. What happened there? After Buddhism came into China,
They completely neglected the external world. China conquered Tibet. It was completely
crushing it. So we should nerve neglect the external world. That is why in our dharma, we
focus on artha and kama. That is , you must have money /wealth . there is nothing wrong in
having wealth…unless you do something very wrong to make money. We are not asking you to
do wrong things and make money. In rightful ways, you can create wealth. That is what
Hinduism is all about.

Then comes Kama, fulfilling desires. What is wrong with desires? A man wants a nice house.
What is wrong? Why should he live in a hut or a terrible house? He should have a good house.
He should have a car. What is wrong in having a car? Ofcourse … he might say pollution. But
soon there will be cars which will have no pollution . That is going to happen. You don't have
worry about it. You have to enjoy your life, eat nice things. Why should you be eating only
some ragi? I am not telling – don't eat ragi. But then why should eat only that. You should enjoy
your life, enjoy the pleasures of the world. Why are they otherwise? Then it should not be
there at all. You must have a good life. Very important because, finally when you people die
you are going to come to ME. You are going to be in Satyaloka. Now, how does it happen in
Satyaloka? In Bhooloka, If you want something, you have to work hard for it. Then you get it . It
is so hard.
In Satyaloka, let us say…Muddappaji is there is Satyaloka. Mudappaji suddenly wants an
airplane. Immediately there will be an airplane. That is it, he can fly around where ever he
want He does not take time. Now let us say you are not in the habit of enjoying your life at
all…you are a miser who will not spend even 10 paise for buy something. Now when you come
to Satyaloka it is all waste isn't it?
Suppose you love masala dosa , you can eat 100 masala dosa…you can go on asking and it will
be coming. You actually experience if fully. Suppose you are person who has never enjoyed
your life, the same habit will continue there . Similarly you have got money, you can build a
nice house …….No.No! One room is enough. Just 1 room is enough . I will be there only. Then in
Satyaloka also you will live in one room. That's how it will happened actually; yours thought
only will become a reality there. Not only you will live causing problems for yourself, you will
dirty my Satyaloka also. Sowe want some nice things there. You will be living in some terrible
things there. There are such problems there also. That is why in bhooloka only, I want to make
you people perfect. So, that is why we are telling you, focus on money and desires. Let us say
your are young man you want a good wife, focus on getting a good job, getting a good
education for your son, helping him out. You focas on therse things. Spiritual progress we will
do for you… because you cannot do anything, because you must work on the brain, because you
must be given a shock for it. I am giving a shock from the Srimurthi. What can you do? Can you
put your hand in the plug there? You cannot do that job. That is why we all are here. Your
focus should be how to create wealth for yourself, your family and for the society. Fullfill your
desires, have a happy life then it is very easy for us to put you into higher states. If you have
too many problems it becomes difficult for us to give you mukti also.

So we are continuously education as to what problems can prevent you from becoming wealty,
from haing your desires fulfilled. Basically and mostly, it is relationship. 95% of problem comes
from our relationship. If you get that blessing from people, any body who takes the blessing….it
goes to your bank account. That is why you must speak a kind word to somebody, help
somebody and get their blessing. That blessing you can encash for making money, for health, or
for some desire being fulfilled. You can try as an experiment and you can see. So how do you
get blessing? Only through good relationships. The most important blessing comes from your
mother and father. Nobody can bless you like your mother and father. That is why whether
that are alive or dead does not matter your parents bless you directly from whatever loka they
are in. It is very powerful even if they are present here. But if you have hurt them, then the
blessing won't come. That is why thousands of places…we have seen we have set right the
relationship…instantly almost in 24 hrs the problem disappears.

Today I met a person who said 6 to 7 yrs he has not spoken to his father. But after he spoke,
just the problem disappeared. So we have been educating you now you must carry this
education to the people. Because you are like gurus, you are like teachers. We have prepared
you. We will be preparing you more. You have to go help people carry the Srimurthi, carry the
Padukas, carry the teaching. You do it. If all of you start helping the people the whole country
is finished. The earlier we finish the country….it is all over.

Prosperity will come mainly because of our spiritual strength. So therefore we should quickly
spiritualize the country so that we can race off. So after that we should not see poverty in this
country at all. It is possible. We will be able to achieve it and let us all work towards it!

Our excitment over this most recent news can hardly be contained! The long awaited opening of
the World Oneness Center in Golden City, India is soon to be upon us. It has been officially
revealed that on April 22nd and for 10 days, the Center will have it’s Dedication Celebration
there. They are expecting over 2.5 million people from all over the globe during that 10-day
period with dignitaries, celebrities and regular people like you and me in attendance. There will
also be tens of thousands of Oneness Blessing facilitators there to assist with the festivities.
Those Oneness Blessing facilitators still back home will be sponsoring special events during the
10-day Celebration. It’s no small coincidence that April 22nd is also Earth Day! The Oneness
University has procured 1,000 trains in India to bring people from all over the country to
participate in this incredible Celebration!
This 40 acre complex has been designed and built to influence the morphogenic fields across the
globe to help elevate man to experience ‘the Awakening…’ an altered state of consciousness
ultimately culminating into God-realization (all of humanity living in Oneness). Once open, it is
expected that from 8,000 to 10,000 people from all countries, cultures and religions will visit this
complex each day.


What else can you tell me about the significance of the World Oneness Center complex in Golden
City, India?


There are certain energy lines flowing on the earth called grid lines. These are similar to latitudes
and longitudes. These grid lines can be measured by a special instrument known as the Laker

The Oneness University team has done a lot of research on this and has found out that if your
chakras rotate at 33 times per second, then you automatically become Awakened (enlightened).
The University has discovered that by making the grid lines vibrate, they can make the chakras of
people also rotate at that particular speed.

The Golden City based World Oneness Center, also called "Global City," is constructed totally
according to Vaastu… a type of architecture that is based on ancient sacred geometry. This
technology will enable people to hold-fast to positive energies and to let go of negative energies
so that it becomes easy for them to increase their state of consciousness a thousand-fold. This is
essential to reach the "tipping point" for grace to come to the masses.

The World Oneness Center will be open to the public shortly after the Dedication Celebration has
been completed.
Question: What is the difference between Science and Spirituality?

Answer: Basically and fundamentally there is not much of a difference between Science and Spirituality. Both
are in search of the truth, the truth about oneself and the truth about the nature of this universe. The
methodology that they employ is different but the issue is the same. Science employs observation and
experimentation through the medium of the external world whereas spirituality does it through the inner world.

For example, in order to know the anatomy of the body, one has to dissect the body and observe it. But the same
anatomy can also be known mystically by doing dhyana on the Vishuddhi Chakra. Similarly, one can study
dhyana on Ajneya Chakra, which otherwise you would need instruments to know.

According to quantum physics everything in this universe is a particle which appears as a wave and if you go still
further it is a field. Spirituality also arrives at the same discovery that everything at the core is Consciousness
and Consciousness manifests as the Universe.

In contemporary world, the scientists and spiritualists are working together. Today, they have even invented an
instrument that can show a spirit, as it is leaving a person?s body.

Question: What is the significance of the Golden City

Answer: There are certain energy lines flowing on the earth called grid lines. These are like latitudes and
longitudes. These grid lines can be measured by a special instrument known as the Laker antenna. We have done
a lot of work on this and have found out that f your chakras rotate at 33 times per second, then you become
enlightened. We have also discovered that by making the grid lines vibrate, we can make the chakras rotate at
that particular speed.

After scanning a number of places, we have discovered this place- the Golden City and some of the major
. This structure can hold 5
gridlines are surfacing from this place. It is here that we are building the temple
000 people. When 5 000 people will start meditating continuously in turns, (?) the grid
lines will start vibrating not just in G.C but across the globe, as the energies will rise due
to the power generated by meditation. These grid lines will in turn affect the chakras
taking you into different states.

And also the Golden City, otherwise called as Global city, is constructed totally
according to the Vaastu that was revealed by me. This would enable to hold the
auspicious energies and negate the negative energies, so that it becomes easy for me to
increase my grace thousand folds as the energy level of a place is very essential for grace
to come.

So let us say you are in Beijing and the vibrations are set in motion here, in Beijing you
will start getting experiences and then whatever should happen will start happening.
Then, whether you like it or not you will become enlightened. So, to make this happen
we are building the Golden City. I want all of you to come and meditate there once it is