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The Heart of
EMMANUEL D. Pacquiao
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Publishers Notes
anny
acquiao:
We expect this issue to be the most in-demand ever. The reason should be obvious. The most
recognizable Filipino today is on the cover.
His full name is Emmanuel D. Pacquiao, but he is best known as simply Manny Pacquiao, or,
better yet, Pacman. Anyone who has ever seen Pacquiao fight and has played the classic video
game knows why sportswriters christened him as such. He has been voted as the best poundfor-pound fighter in the world for good reason. Outside the ring, he is your typical, fun-loving,
God-fearing Pinoy with a ready smile and a quick wit. But inside the ring, he is one of the most
fearsome and fearless pugilists the world has ever seen. He is constantly on the attack, becoming
an unstoppable force of destruction once he gets started. Thus, the sobriquet Pacman.
This is Pinoy Global Accesss Manny Pacquiao Special. We are proud to have one of the most
comprehensive stories on Pacquaio ever written. Actually, there are several stories on the Filipino
gladiator, a comprehensive feature, a one-on-one interview, and a piece on his friend, mentor,
patron and fan, Luis Chavit Singson, himself a most colorful personality, but in the political,
rather than the sports arena.
We also have the usual bumper crop of feature stories on topics of interest to the global
Filipino.
Besides Pacman and Chavit, we get to meet a young IT businessman who is half-Filipino and
who plans to set the IT world on fire.
Everyone wants to be healthy and we have an inside look at one of the most modern medical
facilities in Asia, The Medical City. Specifically, we learn more about its Center for Wellness and
Aesthetics.
We also have two favorite destinations inside, one in the capital city of Manila and the other
in Northern Luzon.
The constant improvement of the Walled City of Intramuros never ceases to amaze us. This
place is a definite must-visit, not just for inbound tourists but all Filipinos as well. Then there is the
Ilocos Norte town of Currimao, which has been declared a UNESCO Heritage Site. Both places bring
visitors back to a gentler time of a century ago, when life in the fast lane was unheard of.
Todays fast lane, Philippine-style, is best exemplified by the countrys public transport
system. The essay on those kings of the road known as jeepneys should remind Filipinos based
abroad that there really is no place like home.
We wont even ask you to enjoy this issue, as we know you will!
CONTENTS
Cover Story
6 The Heart of Emmanuel D. Pacquiao
Who Is That Pacman?
14 Pacman, Faithman
One-on-One Interview with
Manny Pacquiao
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Special Features
21 Chavit Singson
As Pacquiaos Friend and Mentor
23 Interview with Ronnie Nathanielsz
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Boots On
28 The Overseas Filipino Worker as Survivor
Lifestyle, Arts and Culture
30 Kultura Filipino
The Intramuros of our Dream Is Here
36 War Veterans Play As Tool for Lobby
s
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45 Currimao Stopover
Ilocos Norte Town Is a UNESCO
Heritage Site
CONTENTS
Europe
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45 Spring in Holland
Technology
47 Data Banking: How IT Improves
Heart Disease Treatment
Hometown News
49 Kings of the Road
38
Health/Wellness
52 Be Well Always: The Medical Citys
Center for Wellness and Aesthetics
United States and Canada
56 Letter from a Kababayan
Asia and the Pacific
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COVER STORY
The Heart of
EMMANUEL D. Pacquiao
Who Is That Pacman?
By Victoria V. Ferro
because of its violent nature. Its just not a pretty sport. And while
I did appreciate its rigorous discipline having practiced the sport
recreationally, what really piqued my interest in the sport is the rise of
the remarkable young Filipino who fought his way to the pinnacle of the
boxing world; to imaginations of people everywhere. The unassuming
probinsyano who first hailed from the mountains of Mindanao rising
to become the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world, the highest
possible accolade in the sport of boxing.
Fast forward to December 2008, the memories of Mano-a-Mano
still fresh, I watched the Pacman vs. Oscar De La Hoya fight live on Solar
Sports cable at a Tagaytay Highlands venue while enjoying a sumptuous
Chinese lauriat. Not even the delicious food could distract me from
giving full attention first to the HBO 24/7 documentaries that aired
before the fight, and then to the fight itself.
Ironically, the ominous pre-fight threats of the larger, more famous
Golden Boy to take Pacquiaos heart came to nothing in the ring, where
Pacquiao fairly reduced him to a catatonic walking punching bag. While
I took no pleasure from the beautiful Golden Boys punishment, which
one commentator called a reconfiguration of De La Hoyas handsome
face, and another called an annihilation, I was jubilant at Pacmans
resounding victory over this erstwhile Goliath.
My prayers, together with millions of Filipinos were answered.
Pacquiaos superstar status in the global boxing arena was now cemented
and his name catapulted into the mainstream of world sports. Against
great odds, Pacman overpowered a living legend, and effectively helped
to end his illustrious boxing career. But he did it with his characteristic
class and style.
Pacquiao, who refuses to trash talk his opponents, and who will
not make public predictions of who will win fights in which he competes,
other than to say, Only God knows, assured De La Hoya rather sweetly
after the Golden Boys trainer threw in the towel before the 9th round,
Im sorryYoure still my idol. An endearing gesture from the man
who at that very moment not only strengthened his position as the best
boxer in the world, but also supplanted the Golden Boy as the sports
biggest box office draw.
preparing for the fight with De La Hoya. In the HBO 24/7 film series
that had camera crews follow Pacman and Golden Boy everywhere
they went for weeks before the fight, Manny exuded an aura of cool,
lightness of mood, even joviality, courtesy; and kindness, always
kindness. His brotherly affection towards his staff, Team Pacquiao, his
coach, Tatay Freddie Roach, and his fans who visited the Wild Card
gym was palpable.
Whether he is personally doing weigh-ins for his staff whom hes
motivated to compete in a weight loss contest, or singing a duet on
Videoke with his wife Jinkee, or giving away free thanksgiving turkeys
to Filipino families and others in need, you get the sense that Pacquiao
is happy, on an even keel, with the spontaneous propensity to smile that
gentlefolk have.
Even on the day of the weigh- in, when Golden Boy stared down the
Pacman in a threatening pose, you could not see a trace of aggression
or hostility on the Filipinos face, nor of being even slightly intimidated.
What I did see was a glint in the Pacmans eyes, as if he was buoyed by
some secret strength.
As the day of the fight unfolded, we saw a drama in contrasts.
Golden Boy was the picture of worry and dread as he marched with
tense and solemn demeanor with his entrance parade towards the ring,
seemingly very focused on his thoughts, unmindful of those around
him.
By contrast, from the Pacmans entrance parade emerged a fighter
fully at ease, joyful, excited, and open, greeting people as he went, very
aware of those around him. If he had any qualms, reservations, fears or
anxiety of any sort in that hour, he did not show it, not for a moment,
not outside the ring, and certainly not inside it.
In this manner, from outside of the ring as well as within, Pacquiao
appeals to fans and followers with unique charisma and character unlike
any other boxing star in history.
Outside the ring, Pacman is simply Manny, a friend to all, soft
spoken, gentle, sometimes distracted because of so many people
trying to get his attention, but once you have his attention, he is kind,
courteous, open to conversation. If you didnt know he was a fighter,
you would never guess it, because it would seem impossible that a
shred of violence could dwell in this soft-spoken, gentle man. However,
the extreme fitness of his body -- 6% body fat in early April -- hints at
the violence he inflicts on himself during training.
Outside the ring Pacman can be a friend even to his opponents,
always respectful, such as with Ricky Hatton, the British pugilist whom
Pacman will battle next on May 2nd, and who by contrast has not
stopped talking about how he will certainly destroy Pacquiaos hopes of
taking his Junior Welterweight Crown.
By contrast, Pacquiao is relatively silent, peaceful, unmoved by all
the verbiage. During their promotional tour of the UK in late February,
Pacquiao played a friendly game of darts against Hatton and lost
quite good-naturedly demonstrating that it is possible to drum up
attention for a fight in a fun, pleasant and friendly manner, sans the
usual threats, insults, bashing and bravado.
Once he steps into the ring, it is a different matter altogether.
Pacquiao transforms into Pacman, the Destroyer. He trains like a machine,
relentless and disciplined, constantly pushing himself to go beyond
physical limits. The Pacman internally expands in strength and stature
in the ring, morphing into the most exciting boxer in the world, blessed
with astonishing speed, exceptional strength, aggressive momentum,
wielding precise boxing skills and techniques with two of the fastest,
most powerful fists in boxing today. Moreover, he is unpredictable, a
tremendous asset in the ring. Most significantly, Pacquiao exhibits raw
courage, fearlessness, and passion that is breathtaking in a fight. You
know with some decisions he risks even his life.
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those days he longed to go to school like other youth but could not. Now
he is thoroughly enjoying pursuing his studies in Business Management
at the Notre Dame University in Dadiangas.
Finally, in Pangunahing Misyon sa Buhay Manny divulges the real
reasons why he has decided to retire soon and enter politics. In his own
words:
Nabanggit ko rin po sa media kamakailan na marahil tatlong laban
na lang ang nalalabi sa aking boxing career at maaring magretire na ako
sa taong 2009 hindi dahil sa desisyon kong pumasok sa public service sa
taong 2010. Opo, ginamit ko ang katagang public service at iniiwasan
kong usisain ang pagpasok ko sa pelikula dahil marami na ang hindi
natutuwa sa pagbigkas pa lamang ng salitang politics. Sa totoo lang po,
ang aking pag-retire sa 2009 ay walang koneksyon sa aking pagpasok sa
public service sa 2010.
(I told media recently that there are probably just three fights left
in my career and I will retire in 2009, but not because I want to go into
public service in 2010. Yes, I use the term public service, which could
include my doing movies, because no one likes the word politics. My
possible retirement in 2009 is not connected to my desire to enter public
service in 2010.)
Dahil ito ang desisyon at mungkahi ng aking pamilya at mga
malalapit na kaibigan, ang pagsasabit ng aking gloves ay dahil gusto
kong magtapos ng pag-aaral, ma-enjoy ang aking pinaghirapan sa itaas
ng ring at makasama ko ng lubos ang aking pamilya at mga anak na
lumalaki na.
(It is the advice of my family and close friends, and I am hanging up
my gloves because I want to finish my studies, to enjoy what I earned in
the ring and to spend as much time as I can with my family, my growing
kids.)
Ninanais ko pong tapusin ang aking career na ako pa rin ay nasa
mataas na antas ng respeto sa ring at magreretire na kampeon. Ayaw
ko pong magtapos ang aking career na kagaya ng ibang mga boxer na
naging kampeon at nauwi lang na naghihirap sa huli ng kanilang buhay.
Ang iba ay nagreretire na may pinsala sa katawan at pag-iisip at walang
sapat na halaga ang kapalit nito.
Bukod dito, ang pinakapangunahing misyon ng aking buhay ay ang
pagtulong sa aking mga naghihikahos na kababayan at ang pagpasok ko
sa larangan ng public service ang magdudulot ng katuparan sa mithiing
ito.
(I want to end my boxing career at the top of my game and retire
a champion. I dont want it to end like other champions who ended up
poor in their retirement years. Some have even retired with permanent
injury to their bodies and minds. Nothing is worth this. My main mission
in life is to help the poor, and to enter public service is the only way I
can feel complete.)
Filipino Son
as part of a larger community, one that he has been a part of since his
youth. He does not distance himself from them after his triumphs, but
rather includes them in its rewards.
Indeed non-Filipino viewers of the HBO film series might have been
perplexed by the way the Pacman chose to live while training in Los
Angeles. He is very well able to afford a luxurious apartment and stay
there in quiet solitude to rest and recover after every training session.
But no, Manny chooses to be with his Filipino staff, the male-dominated
Team Pacquiao, a very large high-spirited posse that resembles a den of
brothers more than a place where a boxing star and his staff live. They
eat together, sing together, play darts together, try to get into shape
together, and are pretty much always together, mirroring the dynamics
of traditional Filipino families.
In vintage pre-colonial style, Manny is the boss of the group, but
he does not lord it over them, he is one among them, he cares for them
and guides them. Wherever they go, the group brings with them a
visceral cocoon of cultural familiarity that Filipinos recognize instantly.
Pacquiao thrives in the warm, festive, sometimes chaotic, environment
of living with his posse in Los Angeles, and with his extended family in
General Santos City. To live apart from such camaraderie and familial
bonding would probably be very uncomfortable for Manny, and likely
not be the optimal environment for him when preparing for a big fight.
Probably the ultimate expression of Pakikipagkapwa-tao
is Pakikiisa, which means unity. You and I are one. The Pacman
demonstrates this by his very clear understanding of his unique burden
or calling. He is keenly aware that his triumphs as a boxer actually
impact the unity of our nation. He is one with the Filipino nation. His
triumph is our triumph. This awareness motivates him to sacrifice and
do his utmost to win for his country.
Seventh is Malasakit, Roughly, that means to care authentically
for another, and to be willing to do something about it. It can also mean
being willing to undergo suffering or sacrifice in order to help another.
Ronnie Nathanielsz, a veteran sports reporter who has followed
Pacquiaos career since 1995, heard Manny say when he was just 16
years old that he aimed to serve in public office one day so that he could
help the poor. In fact, he dedicated much of his youth to helping his
family out of poverty. He endured the sacrifices necessary in the sport
to attain financial security for himself and significantly for his family.
He has since cast the net of his philanthropy much wider, contributing
to various causes such as sports development, education and hospital
facilities that treat cancer patients. He is constantly finding ways to help
other people as part of a culture where value is measured not by what
one has, but by what one gives away.
Eighth is Galing or power or super-humanness. Filipinos value
leaders who not only interact, empathize and communicate well, but
also if possible have some connection with the spiritual world. Like
Fernando Poe, Jr. as Panday, or Ramon Revilla as Nardong Putik, or
even Corazon Aquino as herself, Filipino leaders in our myths and
legends always had a mystical power or a source of power. Part of
Pacquiaos persona as he grows in popularity as a world figure is his
reputation of being somewhat of a mystic. He professes a deep love
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Mystic Warrior
I used to think it must have been Mannys humble roots that have
helped him to maintain such groundedness in the face of previously
unimaginable fortune. After all, here is a young man who as a boy
helped his family make ends meet by selling donuts or cigarettes, and
would sometimes sleep on cardboard on the streets, just like many of
the poor homeless destitute we see around Metro Manila.
But now I am certain the reason is much more than his impecunious
beginnings, for it is possible for people who start out poor then come
into wealth to change their values and attitudes toward their fellow
men. Im convinced that the very essence and heart of Pacquiao lies in
his deep and authentic spirituality. It is a spirituality that is not merely
inherited from the lessons of a religious mother, which his vibrant and
colorful mother, Aling Dionisia certainly gave him. It is a spirituality
rooted in a true abiding relationship with the divine. There is no other
way to explain how he can remain peaceful, calm and joyful on the
edge of risking his life. No other way to explain how he of all people
would be the one to calm all his fans from De La Hoyas threats to
destroy him by publicly saying on global television: Why are you so
anxious? Its as if you dont believe God. There is no need to be anxious.
God is in control.
I could say many more things about Pacquiao, perhaps compare
him to Jose Rizal, who though he wielded a pen rather than his fists, had
many similarities to the Pacman. Rizal was also not very tall, but multigifted, loved music, himself practised boxing with his cohorts, also liked
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Pacman, Faithman
One-on-One Interview with Manny Pacquiao
Makati Shangri-la Hotel
Shang Palace Restaurant
By Victoria V. Ferro
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Victoria:
Maraming maraming salamat [Thank you very much] Manny, on behalf of
Pinoy Global Access magazine Many readers of PGA are more interested
in the Manny whos not really the boxing Manny, but rather the other side
of Manny Pacquiao. You are the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world.
What do you think are the qualities that set you apart from other boxers?
Manny:
I think I have the blessing from God and because of my sacrifices. I am
dedicated to my career. Thats why I deserve everything I have achieved.
Victoria:
So talagang [truly] super hard work.
Manny:
[Nods] Hard work and belief in God.
Victoria:
You really have so much faith in God. Like with your De La Hoya fight, lahat
ng tao sobrang kabang-kaba. [Everybody was very anxious and nervous.]
I watched you in the documentary of HBO and you said Huwag kayo
mabahala. Para namang wala kayong tiwala sa Diyos. [Dont worry. If
you worry its as if you have no trust in God.] Where did that come from,
Manny? That faith?
Manny:
I always believe that without God we cannot do anything in this world,
in this planet. You have to believe God and do something for God. Then
youll be successful.
Victoria:
Was there an incident when you were young? Nung batang-bata ka pa
[When you were very young] did you have that faith already?]
Manny:
When I was young, we had to go to school and study but because
talagang mahirap lang kami even my mother walang trabaho, my father
also. Kaya hindi ko natapos ang pag-aaral ko. After that, I decided to box
kahit mahirap sa loob ng mama ko, napilitan ako because wala kaming
pera, walang trabaho. Start nun, dun na ang simulanapamahal na sa
akin yung boxing. Tapos nung napamahal na sa akin yun boxing, lagi kong
dinadasal kay Lord na sana sa pamamagitan ng boxing, maiahon ko at
matulungan ko ang mga magulang ko.
[When I was young, we had to go to school and study but because we
were poor, my father and mother had no jobs, I wasnt able to finish
school. After that I decided to box even if my mother didnt like it. I was
forced to because we had no money, no jobs. From there started my love
for boxing. Then when I came to love boxing, I kept praying to the Lord my
wish that I could, through boxing, be able to help my family, my parents
out of poverty.]
Victoria:
Anchor mo yon, di ba, ang faith? Ever since ba yon? [Thats your anchor, isnt
it? Your faith? Have you had it for a long time?] Was it something you got
from your mother?
Manny:
Ever since we were young, our mother taught us how to pray before we
eat, after we eat, before we sleep, every time we wake up in the morning.
Tinuturuan ka niya so talagang very thankful kami sa mother namin kasi
pinalaki niya kami na may faith sa God. [She taught us that way so we are
truly very thankful to our mother because she brought us up with faith in
God.]
Victoria:
Tapos, I notice in all your fights before you even step in the ring you pray
then whatever happens after you pray, ano yung mga pinepray mo? [What
do you pray for?]
Manny:
During my fight, before my fight, I pray to God na sana iligtas niya ako sa
kapamahakan. At siya na ang bahala. Pinauubaya ko sa kanya ang lahat.
Akoy isang tao lamang at nasa kanya ang pagbabasbas para manalo.
[During my fight, before my fight, I pray to God to keep me from harm.
And that I trust Him to be in control. I give everything to Him. I am just a
human being and the blessing to win comes from Him.]
Victoria:
Meron bang kinakatakutan ang isang Manny Pacquiao? [Does a Manny
Pacquiao have any fears?]
Manny:
Ang tangi ko lang kinakatakutan ay ang Panginoon. Except that, wala na.
kasi kung nakakaramdam ka ng takot, itanung mo sa sarili mo kaagad, bakit
ka kinakabahan? Yung faith mo sa God hindi talaga 100%. Pag kinakabahan
ang tao, ang faith niya sa God hindi talaga 100%.
[I am afraid of only one thing and that is God. Other than God, I fear
nothing. Because if you feel fear, ask yourself right away, why do you feel
fear? That means your faith in God is not 100%. If a person gets nervous,
that means that persons faith in God is not 100%.]
Victoria:
You really remind me of David in the Bible, of the story of David and
Goliath. Your fights are reminiscent of that story, especially with the
way you talk. Im just telling you that Im inspired and many people are
inspired because you have the David kind of faith, a man after Gods own
heart. Would you agree?
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Manny:
I agree. Talagang naniniwala ako kasi like me Im always inspired because
I believe God. Kaya lagi akong inspired dahil sa kanya.
[I agree. I really believe that. Im always inspired because I believe God.
God is my source of constant inspiration.]
[Is thereRVF
a particular chapter or statement in that book that really struck you?]
Manny:
Dami! Halos lahat dun matamaan ka dun sa ano. Nagbabasa ka ba nun?
[A lot! Almost everything in that book had an impact on me. Do you read
that book?]
Victoria:
Kaya ka masaya palagi?
[Is that why youre always happy?]
Victoria:
Opo! Kasi I actually worked with Purpose-Driven Life before.
[Yes, because I actually worked with Purpose-Driven Life before.]
Manny:
Ya! Because I have a great God. Sabi ko nga sa kanila [Thats why I say]
dont tell God you have a big problem. Tell your problem that you have a
great God.
Manny:
Aaah! [with interest]
Victoria:
Wow, I saw you say that in the HBO 24/7 documentary with De La Hoya and
it was amazing. You sounded like you were preaching, like an evangelist.
It was fantastic.
Gaanong katotoo yung movieIm sure a lot of people are asking this,
lalo na abroad. How close is it to reality, the movie about you, yung sa Star
Cinema, yung starring Jericho?
[How close to the truth was the movie that Star Cinema produced on your
life, starring Jericho (Rosales)?]
Manny:
Actually, alam mo, yung movie na yun nasa 15% lang yung totoo dun.
TalagangI mean 15%, out of 100%, 15% lang ang totoo.
[You know with that movie, only 15% of the movie was true.]
Victoria:
Ok. So youre not very happy with it then.
Manny:
[Shakes his head and doesnt look happy.]
Victoria:
Oh okay, thats good. Im curious about that part in the movie na nagbabasa
ka ng [when you were reading the book] Purpose-Driven Life, totoo ba yon
[did that really happen]? And did reading the book really have an impact
on you?
Manny:
Purpose-Driven Life [nods] yes. Talagang malaking tulong non. Maganda!
Mapaiyak ka! [Yes that book was a great help to me. It was beautiful. That
book will make you cry!
Victoria:
Is there a particular chapter or merong isang kasabihan dun na talagang hit
you in particular sa libro na yon?
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Victoria:
Are you really the one who writes yung mga piesa sa Philboxing? Is it
really you who writes those pieces?
[Are you really the one who writes the columns with your byline on
Philboxing.com?]
Manny:
Yung mga articles ko? Yung Kumbinasyon? [He nods with a smile.]
[You mean my articles? Kumbinasyon? (the name of his column in
Abante)]
Victoria:
Galing naman, Im so impressed talaga. [You write very well. Im truly
impressed.] There you said something about Lapu-lapu being one of your
inspirations, can you talk about that?
Manny:
Si Lapu-lapu kasi nakipaglaban yun kay Magellan. Hero natin yun kasi
binantayan niya yung lugar nating lahat.
[Lapu-lapu had the courage to fight Magellan. He is our hero because he
guarded our land.]
Victoria:
Kung di po kayo nakatira dito, where would you live? Where would you
want to live? Is there a country you would prefer to live other than this
country?
Manny:
Wala. Dito talaga ako.
[No other place. This is where I will stay.]
Victoria:
Would you ever change your citizenship? Would you ever consider that? If
you were offered it?
Manny:
[Shakes his head.]
Victoria:
Ganun ninyo kamahal ang Pilipinas? [Thats how much you love the
Philippines?]
Manny:
[Nods his head, with a sound that means yes and a peaceful smile on his
face.] Kung nagchange pa ako, kinuha ko na yung Green Card ko.
[If I wanted to change citizenship, I would have gotten my Green Card
already.]
I dont like it because it hurts me. Because that is our life. What happens
to our nation is part of our lives. People might wonder how I can say that
the place we live in is part of our lives. I can explain that very well. People
might ask what is the connection between the place we dwell and our
lives. That is what people dont know.]
Victoria:
How do you see yourself as a Filipino, compared to, say, mga Mexicans,
mga Americans, and other nationalities?
Victoria:
Your children can study anywhere. But I heard you decided and said, Gusto
ko dito sila mag-aral kasi ayaw kong mawala ang pagka-Pilipino nila.. [I
want them to study here because I dont want them to lose their sense of
being Filipino.] Can you say a little bit more about that?
Manny:
Alam mo merong mga mabait, merong hindi naman masyado. Pero walang
ibang katulad talaga ang Pilipino.
[You know there are people who are good, some who are not so good. But
Filipinos are a breed apart. Filipinos are truly unique.]
Manny:
Puede ko silang pag-aralin sa Amerika, kaya lang gusto ko sila dito magaral kasi ayaw kong mawala sa kanila yung ugaling Pilipino. Kasi kahit na
dugong Pilipino ka pero dun ka naman lumaki sa Amerika, hindi ka pa rin
Pilipino kasi yung ugali mo Amerika na.
[I can give them an education in America, but I prefer that they study here
in the Philippines because I dont want them to lose their Filipino values.
Thats because even if you have Filipino blood in you but you grow up in
America, you wont be Filipino anymore in the sense that your values and
behavior will be American already.]
Victoria:
You are continuing with your university studies, right? Saan po? [Where?]
Victoria:
Happy naman po kayo sa education nila sa Brent? Okay naman kayo don?
[Are you happy with the education your children are getting from Brent
School? Are you okay with it?]
Manny:
Happy naman. Ok naman. [with a smile]
[Yes I am happy with them. They are okay.]
Victoria:
Gaano kaimportante sa inyo ang pagiging Pilipino po ninyo?
How important is your Filipino identity to you?
Manny:
Alam mo napakahalaga sa akin ang pagiging isang Pilipino dahil unanguna, akoy Pilipino. At saka ayokong magkagulo ang bansa natin. Ayoko
kasi nasasaktan ako. Kasi buhay natin yan eh. Kasama sa buhay natin. Pero
baka magtaka ka kung bakit ko masasabing ang tinitirhan natin ay kasama
sa buhay natin. Ma-explain ko ng mabuti yan. Baka tanungin nila ano ang
koneksyon ng tinitirhan natin sa buhay natin di ba? Yan ang hindi alam ng
mga tao.
[You know being Filipino is so very important to me. In the first place,
Im Filipino and I dont want any problems or issues to beset our country.
Manny:
Notre Dame University
Victoria:
What are you studying po?
Manny:
Business Management.
Victoria:
Its interesting kasi obviously napaka-successful ninyo na in the sense that
if you dont want to study, you dont have to. So why are you pursuing your
studies pa rin po?
[Its interesting because obviously you are already very successful
financially in the sense that if you dont want to study, you dont have to.
So why are you pursuing your studies still?]
Manny:
Even when I was young, I loved to go to school. I wanted to finish my
school, my studies. Like what I said, mahirap lang kami noon. Kaya ngayon
talagang pinagpatuloy ko ang pag-aaral ko para ma-manage ko rin ng
tama yung pera kong pinagkakitaan sa boxing. Kaya management ang
kinuha ko, business management.
[Like what I said, we were very poor then. Thats why now I am continuing
my studies so that I can also effectively manage the money Ive earned in
boxing. This is the reason why I took up business management.]
Victoria:
May relasyon din ho ba yun sa intentions niyo po to run for public office?
[Does your studies relate to your intentions to run for public office?]
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Manny:
Unang-una para di ka laiitin ng mga tao na wala kang pinag-aralan. Ang
dahilan talaga ay para mai-manage ko yung kinita kong pera sa boxing.
First of all its so that people wont be able to call me derogatorily as
someone ignorant or without education. The real reason is so that I can
manage my boxing earnings effectively.
Victoria:
Kasi actually Im a documentarist. I so love that documentary that HBO did
on you, that 24/7. What was it like for you that they were following you
around na sinusundan kayo saan man? Sa loob ng kuwarto, etc I mean
what was that experience like?
[Im actually a documentarist and so I loved that 24/7 documentary HBO
made on you. What was it like for you when you were being followed and
filmed everywhere you went? What was that experience like?]
Manny:
Okay lang. I mean masaya ako dahil sinusundan ka ng mga ganyan
kahit saan ka magpunta. Eh ang iba tinatawag pa sila para sundan, di
ba? Naiintindihan ko yan dahil kasama yan, bahagi yan ng tagumpay.
[It was fine with me. I mean I was happy that I was being followed
everywhere by these people. For others, they have to call people
to follow them, right? (Manny smiles as if to appreciate his good
fortune.) I understand the attention because thats all part and parcel
of success.]
Victoria:
Were you happy with the final product? Nung napanood ninyo? Yung
documentary?
[When you got to watch it? The documentary?] Did you like it? Were you
pleased?
Manny:
OO. Nagustuhan ko. Gustong-gusto ko. Kasi maganda ang pagkagawa.
[Yes. I liked it. I really really liked it. Because the film was very well
made.]
Victoria:
So compared to the Jericho Rosales film, versus this one, you really like the
documentary more.
Manny:
Siyempre. Kasi kung ano yung mga ginagawa mo
[Of course. Because whatever it is that you are doing]
Victoria:
Yun talaga yon.
[Thats exactly what they show.]
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Manny:
Yun talaga.
[Thats it exactly.]
Victoria:
And ang ganda ng coverage nun about Freddie Roach and your relationship
with Freddie. [The coverage on your relationship with Freddie Roach in
that film was excellent.]
Its really wonderful. So youre really close and hes like your father, in a
sense.
Manny:
[Smiles and nods. Yes.]
Victoria:
Do you have any other passions aside from God and boxing that we dont
know about?
Manny:
I love to play basketballBasta mahilig ako sa sports.
Victoria:
Para sa inyo po, what do you think are the things that matter most in life? Sa
buhay po, ano ang pinakaimportante?
Manny:
Alam mo ang una sa buhay ko, ang relasyon ko sa God. Alam mo relasyon
sa God yun lagi pinakaimportante sa akin. Yun ang laging iniisip ko.
Baka lumayo ako o gaano ba akong kalapit sa Panginoon? Hindi porket
nagdadasal ka okay na yon. Kailangan palagi mong tanungin sa sarili mo,
malapit ka ba sa Panginoon?
[You know the first priority in my life is my relationship with God. For me
the most important thing is always my relationship with God. That is what
I am always thinking about. I ask myself, am I going further away from
the Lord? Or how close am I to Him? It doesnt mean that just because you
pray that everything is okay. You must always ask yourself, are you close
to the Lord?]
Victoria:
So, talagang totoo sa inyo ang intimate relationship with God?
[So an intimate relationship with God is very real for you?]
Manny:
Kailangan kasi tayong human may tinatawag tayong idol, hero natin,
mahal natin pero sa akin iba. May hero ako, may mahal ako, may bida ako,
ang Panginoon.
[We need this relationship with God. We humans might call someone or
something idol, hero or beloved but for me it is different. I have a hero, I
have someone I love, I have an idol (or the winning protagonist in a story),
and that is the Lord.]
Victoria:
Wow! Ang ganda [Thats beautiful.]
Manny:
Lagi tayong nagsasabi sa mga tao, sa mga mahal natin sa buhay I
love you. Sa Panginoon ba, nasabi mo na ba ang I love you? Tanungin
kita, nasabi mo na bang I love you. Madalas mo bang sinasabing I
love you?
[We often tell people, the people that we love in life, I love you.
Have you said the same thing I love you to the Lord? Let me ask you.
Have you told the Lord I love you? How often do you say I love you
to Him?]
Victoria:
Ako pa. Oo. Yung mga iba po hindi ko po alam.
[Me yes, I say that to the Lord. I dont know about other people though.]
Manny:
Madalas pa nating sabihin sa kapwa natin I love you; I love you sa
asawa natin.
[We say I love you more often to other people, to our spouses.]
Victoria:
Wala po akong asawa kaya si God lang talaga. (laughter)
[I dont have a husband so its truly only God. (laughter)]
Manny:
I love you God.
Victoria:
Ano pong mga dreams do you have remaining. Kasi Im sure marami na
po kayong nakamit. Youve reached so much of your goals already. What
dreams do you have remaining for yourself, for your family, and for your
country?
Manny:
Ive really done my dream to my family na natulungan ko na silang lahat,
even my brother and sisters, nabigyan ko na sila. Ang dream ko na lang,
hindi ko naman lahat matutulungan, kaya kahit papaano gamitin niya ako
para makatulong ako sa mga kapwa tao.
[Ive already achieved my dream for my family. Ive helped all of them
already, even my brother and sisters. Ive given to them already. My
remaining dream, though I may not be able to help everybody, is that
somehow God can use me to help others.]
Victoria:
How about for yourself? Do you have any other dreams or goals you
want to reach?
Manny:
My dreams? (as if surprised by the question)
Victoria:
Yes! For you! Long term.
Manny:
Long term my dream is talagang ako ay mawala sa mundo na hindi ako
malayo sa Kanya.
[Long term my dream is for me to leave this world without distance from
God.]
Victoria:
Wow, ang ganda naman. [Wow thats so beautiful.]
Manny:
Ang panaginip ko ay hindi ako malayo sa Kanya kasi lahat ng mga bagay na
nakikita mo sa mundo, pansamantala lang yan. At panghabang buhay ang
hindi mo nakikita.
[My dream is that I will remain close to God because all the things
you see in this world is temporary. What will last are the things you
cant see.]
Victoria:
Last question. Is there anything that the Filipino public does not know
about Manny Pacquiao? Theres so much coverage about you already but is
there something about you that people dont know?
Manny:
Alam mo bihira ko sinasabi sa mga tao ito. Ang hindi nila alam na kaya palagi
kong sinasabi sa kanila na Panginoon, Panginoon, magtiwala kayo kasi ang
totoo niyan kailangan lahat ng tao wala sila dapat ialay sa buhay nila kundi
ang Panginoon lang. Sino ba ang gumawa sa mundo? Sa ating daigdig? Di
ba sa ating daigdig completo. Lahat ng nandyan na lahat. Completo.
Sinong gumawa? Ang God. Di ba ang God? So sa Kanya tayo nanggaling,
diba? Dapat maniwala ang mga tao, magtiwala sila sa Panginoon, matakot
sila sa Lord. Ako? Billion of people sa buong mundo. Billions, di ba billion?
Ilang billion?
[You know its very rare that I tell people this. What people dont know
is that the reason why I keep telling people God, God, trust in God is
because that is truly what people need to do. They should give their lives
to nothing or no one else but God alone. Who was it that made the world?
Who created our planet? Isnt our world complete? Everything we need is
there. Its complete. Who made it? God made it. Wasnt it God? So we come
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from him, dont we? That is my people need to believe in God, to trust in
God, fear God. Me? There are billions of people in the whole world. Is it a
billion? How many billions?]
Victoria:
6 yata e, 6 or 7 billion. [I think its about 6 or 7 billion.]
Manny:
7 billion. Masuwerte ako dahil ako isa sa mga kinausap ng Panginoon. Sa
billions of people, bihira ang tao na kinakausap ng Panginoon.
[Out of 7 billion people, Im very fortunate because I am one of those rare
individuals that the Lord has spoken to.]
Victoria:
Ano ang sinabi niya sa iyo? [What did He say to you?]
Manny:
Basta yung mga nasabi ko sa iyo nung mga nakaraan. May mga nasabi ako
sa yo dun na sabi ng Panginoon.
What I already spoke about earlier to you. I said some things to you that
the Lord told me.
Victoria:
Aaah okay. I will figure it out. [a bit lost]
Manny:
Like nareviewin mo ha tulad ng sinabi ko na sa kanya mo ialay ang
buhay mo. Siya lang ang nagiisang Panginoon natin. At yung ano ba ang
relasyon mo kay God? Gaano ka bang kalapit sa God, diba? Minsan may
tanong tayo, Gaano ka bang kalapit sa tao na yan? Sasabihin natin Close
kami niyan. Diba, ginaganoon natin. Sa mother natin, father natin. Saan
ka ba close, sa mother mo, sa father mo? A mas close ako sa father ko..
Pero ang tanong, gaano ka ba ka-close sa Panginoon?
[Like I said earlier, it is to God that we should offer our lives. He is our
one and only Lord. And what is your relationship with God? How close
are you to God, right? Sometimes we ask the question How close are
you to this or that person? We would say Were close. Isnt it we have
these kinds of conversations? How about to our mother or father. Who
are you closest to? Your mother? Your father?Oh Im closer to my father.
But the question is, how close are you to the Lord?]
Victoria:
Are you certain of your eternal parang kunyari lets say 50 years
later tapos dumating si Jesus. Are you sure that you will be with
God in heaven?
Manny:
Basta ako, God knows that I live my life like everyday is the last. I live
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my life like everyday is the last. Anytime. Hindi ako kasi. Hindi
ako natatakot. Kasi, isa lang ang bida ko, Siya. One God forever.
Kahit anong sabihin nila. Sabihin nila, mga tao nagkakasala naman
tayoNagkakasala naman tayo tapos paulit-ulit nagkakasala
tayo pero alam mo ang katawan natin madalas nagkakasala pero
kailangan pag nagkakasala ka, sa mind mo. Pagnagkakasala ka,
nagkakasala ka sa mind mo at sa puso mo. Kailangan ang sa puso mo
pa rin, andyan ang Panginoon, sa mind mo, andyan ang Panginoon.
Pagkakasala mo sa katawan lang yan, iwanan natin yan
Inaamin ko nagkakasala ako. Araw-araw nagkakasala tayong lahat.
Nagkakasala ako oras-oras pero ang puso ko its deep in my heart
and in my mind, wala ng iba kundi ang Panginoon lang. Yun lang
talaga. Kaya, bakit ka matatakot? Kung gusto mo nang kunin ako,
wala akong magagawa, basta ikaw ang bida ko Di ba?
[God knows I live my life like everyday is my last. Anytime He can
take me. Im not afraid because I have only one hero, and thats
God. One God forever. Whatever people say, as people we will have
our faults, we will sin. We may sin over and over. We know our
bodies often sin, our minds often sin. And when we sin, we sin in
our minds and hearts. What is needful is that in our hearts, God is
there, and in our minds, God is there. If we sin in our bodies, lets
leave that behind. I admit I sinEveryday we all sin. I sin every
hour but but deep in my heart and in my mind, theres nothing and
no one else but God, the Lord. Thats it and nothing else! So why
should I be afraid? If God wants to take me, I cant do anything. But
no matter what, He is my hero, right?]
Victoria:
Maraming salamat. Alam ninyo po, you remind me talaga of David.
Kasi si David rin po, nagkasala diba? Pero sabi ni God, ang tawag ni
God sa kanya, a man of faith, a man after Gods own heart. So kahit
nagkasala siya, yun pa rin ang paningin niya, talagang a man after
His own heart.
Thank you so much. You know you really remind me of David.
Even if David sinned, in the eyes of God, he was a man after His
own heart.
Manny:
Hindi sinasabi ng Panginoon na maging perfect kang tao. Ang kailangan
lang niya ay marunong kang magsisi sa iyong mga kasalanan.
[The Lord is not telling us to be perfect persons. What is needful is
that we know how to be sorry for our sins.]
Victoria:
Amen. Marami salamat po. [Thank you very much.]
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Chavit Singson
As Pacquiaos Friend and Mentor
By Pablo A. Tariman
Photos: Willy Avila
it a point to watch all the great fights here and abroad and he is familiar
with all the legendary boxers, among them, Mohammad Ali who had an
unforgettable fight at the Araneta Coliseum in the mid-70s.
In recent years, Singson has evolved from a curious fan to fatherand- brother figure and special friend to Pacquiao.
But the two are really worlds-apart in social, political and family
lineage.
Singson is the second among the seven children of Jos Singson and
Caridad Crislogo. His other siblings include Evaristo (Titong), Bernardo
(deceased), Fernando (Dodoy), Maria Olivia (Honeygirl), Jeremias (Jerry),
Germelina (Germy) and Jose, Jr. (Bonito).
But his Vigan roots actually date back to the 17th century. According
to Ilocos chroniclers, one Joaqun Ayco, a merchant from Oasay, China,
married a Chinese mestiza, Rosa Songnio, a Vigan native. Singsons
forefathers ruled Vigan as far back as the 1800s. The post of gobernadorcillo
was held by Don Len Singson in 1846, Don Estanislao Singson in 1852,
Don Domingo Singson in 1854, Don Toms Singson in 1858 and Don Jose
Singson in 1877. Chavit grew up in Vigan, where he led a normal childhood
with a very liberal upbringing and a lot of opportunity to play and make
friends. The family brought the first redrying plant to Ilocos in the 60s.
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Interview with
Ronnie Nathanielsz
Veteran Sports Analyst and Commentator
By Victoria V. Ferro
As a discoverer of Pacquiao at the age of 16, what were your early
impressions of him? What were the circumstances? You said that at this age,
he had already stated his intention of running for public office, right?
Longtime boxing people and friends Rod Nazario, Lito Mondejar and Moy
Lainez teamed up with Vintage Sports to telecast the top-rated weekly boxing
show, Blow by Blow.
The fights were usually staged at the Mandaluyong Gym which was
constructed at that time by Mayor Ben Abalos, a passionate boxing fan.
Pacquiaos third fight in his career and his first on Blow by Blow was staged
in Bacoor, Cavite when he defeated Rocky Palma on May 1, 1995.
My initial impression was that he had no finesse, threw punches from all
angles but had power and the most important element, courage.
I recall that perhaps two years later he told Rod Nazario in my presence that
he wanted to run for public office because he wanted to serve the poor people
in his area.
What is your view of the recent network wars brouhaha over Pacman? Does
this issue tarnish Pacmans credibility considerably or not at all? What do you
think really happened?
The network war was unfortunate. It didnt need to happen. ABS-CBN
has, through the years, done a substantial amount to help grow the image
and popularity of Pacquiao not just nationally but internationally with their
extensive coverage especially by Dyan Castillejo who did a remarkable job.
Even though ABS-CBN didnt have the rights to several of Mannys big fights
which had been acquired by Solar Sports, they provided incredible coverage
which is a tribute to them. They saw the value of the story and didnt let the
fact that the fight was on a competitive channel affect their judgment in terms
of providing extensive coverage for their viewers and in the process clearly
benefiting from it. Truth to tell they did a much better job than GMA and Solar
Sports.
Pacquiao has an uncanny knack of getting out of trouble in terms of his
image. Once he starts training and the stories come out of how well he is doing
and Mannys built-in charisma and conduct in public in a boxing or sports
environment, helps people forget any wrongdoing in a hurry.
His credibility was questioned if not tarnished by some American journalists
and a few Filipinos but not too many, surprisingly. In fact, it was turned around
to make ABS-CBN and Dyan Castillejo look bad which I thought was unfortunate
because most people didnt know what really happened.
Pacquiao and a few around him thought ABS-CBN did a much better job of
covering Manny. Manny too had expressed, whether he will admit it or not, a
desire to try and move by offering to buy out his contract from Solar Sports.
Thats why Gabby Lopez and Mr. William Tseng met over breakfastto try and
hammer out an agreement. But it didnt work.
Meantime, Manny, according to his lawyer Franklin Jeng Gacal didnt
consult him although we know that Gacal met with ABS-CBN officials precisely
on the issue.
Manny, according to Gacal himself, received a fairly substantial amount as a
down- payment for the Hatton telecast from ABS-CBN hoping that something
could be worked out.
Solar stood firm along with the backing of GMA and that was it.
Was it you who first wrote of Pacman starting off as a bakers assistant and
sleeping on cardboard boxes? What was the sleeping in cardboard boxes all
about? Does that mean that his family didnt have a roof over their heads?
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RN: Our early footage shot in General Santos City for the hugely successful
DVD The Manny Pacquiao Story by Viva Productions had a recreation of
Manny selling pandesal. He started boxing as an amateur early and most of the
time lived in the home of his trainer Cordero. Pacquiaos mother Dionisia
had a small sari sari store and they did have a rather rundown shack they
called home.
What is it about him that has allowed him to rise, as HBO Sports put it in its
latest Pacman greatest hits video The most exciting fighter in the sport today
and arguably the best pound-for-pound?
He has the amazing capacity to train like no other fighter. He kills himself in the
gym. He is sharply focused. He never underestimates an opponent and never puts
him down. He is respectful to his opponent and to the sport itself.
His aggressive style, his remarkable hand-speed, the way he moves in the ring
and his willingness to take on any fighter, even at a higher weight, his friendly
disposition and the smile etched on his face as he enters the ring all add up. Add
to that his act of kneeling in his corner and praying before a fight and making the
sign of the Cross, going down on his knees and thanking God when its over has
endeared him to fans and those who cover the sport.
All this provides a dimension of excitement and by beating all the Mexican
legends Barrera, Morales, Marquez and in recent fights WBC lightweight
champion David Diaz and Oscar De La Hoya at 147 pounds set him apart. He has
won titles in five divisions and with the retirement of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. he
arguably is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world today.
Who is the most influential person in Pacmans life? What is your take on his
very public spirituality?
Tough question. But I figure its his wife Jinkee and their children who
collectively make him turn away from wrongdoing and have helped him mend
his ways especially after two daughters were born.
Others who probably exert some guidance rather than influence are President
Arroyo who always showed care and concern for him even before Manny became
the superstar he is today, Luis Chavit Singson, Secretary Lito Atienza, Freddie
Roach for sure in boxing terms and promoter Bob Arum.
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COMPARISON CHART 1
MANNY PACQUIAO
RICKY HATTON
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Record
48-3, 36 KOs
45-1-32 KOs
Height
56 1/2
57 1/2
Reach
67 inches
65 inches
Age
9-0, 6KOs
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Power - Pacquiao
Chin - Even
Skill - Pacquiao
Speed - Pacquiao
Reach - Pacquiao
Height - Hatton
Experience - Even
Stamina - Pacquiao
Betting Favorite - Pacquiao
Media Favorite - Pacquiao
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With these performance nights firmly in place, what is now to stop
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and ways of the Filipino through artists like The Mandaluyong Childrens
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Cardio-vascular diseases are the most common of
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What if you took a social networking engine like Facebook and add
a significant dimension to it, that is, make it location-based? Locationbased means having the facility to find and interact with people based on
their specific location real-time. This is done through the use of location
based systems like GPS or real-time enabled mapping software like
GoogleMaps. What if you are able connect with and keep in touch with
friends and business connections in the usual ways that social networks
provide but also seamlessly connect their activities to specific places realtime?
What if this facility can help you to communicate with people
outside your own personal or company network in a targeted manner,
based on the usual demographics and psychographics but also based on
locations where they live or work and on specific activities related to those
locations, also potentially real-time? Finally, what if you are able to enjoy
these benefits not just online on your PC but also seamlessly
through your mobile phone?
Think Facebook or Ning married to Google Maps and
the Phonebook with interactive functionality, and fully
integrated on the web and mobile phone. What do you
get? Introducing the groundbreakingUrbian Inc.
A brainchild of Filipino-Austrian Christopher
Kahler, 27 and Austrian partner, Abraham Muller, 30,
Urbian Inc. is set to turn the world of social networking
once again on its head. Urbian, which means denizen
of a city or urban area, offers a fresh portfolio of social
networking services to users and enterprises previously not
available in the market. In particular, Urbian offers value to people
living in dynamic, high density urban areas, where people are constantly
on the move and where we are constantly trying to locate people in
the course of a day. Incorporated in January 2008 in the United States,
Urbian set up its operations in Shanghai, China, with a young dynamic
multicultural team comprised of Asians, Europeans and Americans.
I interviewed Christopher Kahler, the young maverick CEO of Urbian
for Pinoy Global Access magazine last December while he was visiting his
family in Ayala Alabang in the Philippines. Since that interview, Urbian
has moved to larger offices, added staff, and clinched a deal that would
distribute Urbian services throughout China by the 2nd quarter of 2009.
Christopher talks about Urbian Inc., how its different from other
social networks and how it got started. He shares how they were able to
raise funding from VCs, and discusses their unique business model. He also
provides insight into the dynamic corporate culture of Urbian and his own
idea-centric management philosophy.
He shares how his Filipino family influenced his decision to become
an entrepreneur, shedding some light on the benefit of growing up half
Urbian, Inc. CEO Christopher Kahler (inset) as a toddler with his Filipino
mom, Cynthia Valmonte-Kahler and now as a young entrepreneur based in
China.
Filipino and half-Austrian. Eating Filipino fare such as ampalaya and
lengua is as familiar to him as enjoying coffee in a Viennese Caf. As a
struggling student, he performed guitar on the streets in Malaysia and
Vienna, valuable experiences where he gained insight into human nature
and the psychology of cultures that one simply cant learn vicariously.
Most interesting is how Christopher overcame daunting obstacles,
such as getting kicked out of university and fighting to be admitted back,
to eventually pioneer an original and relevant cross-cultural venture that
can potentially benefit the world.
He is unlike other technopreneurs with Filipino heritage who
emerged primarily through US universities and related technology ecosystems. Christopher Kahler, propelled by bonafide curiosity (a term he
coined) has invented himself from a inimitable blend of European, Asian
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Victoria:
Tell me about yourself and your company, Urbian Inc. and its products
and services.
Christopher:
My name is Christopher Kahler. Im half-Austrian, half-Filipino. My Dads
Austrian, my Moms from the Philippines. I grew up all over the world mostly
in Southeast Asia. I was born in the Philippines, moved about to Bangladesh,
Saudi Arabia, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, all over. Went to
undergrad in the States, took my bachelors in mechanical engineering there
with a focus in biomechanics, then I moved to Vienna, Austria and began
my graduate studies there in biomechanics. In grad school, I met one of the
partners Im working with now in my current project, Urbian Inc., which Ill
tell you about in a second. Hes Austrian, and we met up and came up with
the idea together there. And I have since moved to Shanghai in China to set
it up.
Ill tell you a little bit about the project. How we like to frame it is a customer
engagement solution for enterprises. The idea is to provide a platform
for companies. So for predominantly for offline, larger, multinational
companies, looking to increase their customer engagement, or their
engagement with the customers and users, as opposed to the very kind
of static, one-way dialogue that currently exists that companies typically
employ with advertising, billboards, TV ads and radio ads, web banners, that
kind of thing. We think that the future of engagement between customers
and users and companies will be a dialogue, so it will be bidirectional and
what we wanted to do was to create a platform to allow companies to do
that.
More specifically, how that works, its a location-based mobile social
networking application suite combined with a website that we design, host
and update for companies, branded for them, its proprietary. We handle all
their presentation. All their presence, we design for them. We work with
them in creating that so we are completely brand transparent. For us, we
have no real brand presence. Or the product is brand transparent for us.
We give them this tool, which they then, in turn, promote. How we differ
as well is we own the database, so we own the actual information about
the users and what that allows us to do is offer the same service to other
companies and give the opportunity to users of both to communicate with
one another. So that allows the network to grow at a much faster rate. It
provides a lot of value.
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Victoria:
So you give the customized solutions for free?
Christopher:
We do, yes.
Victoria:
And in exchange, you just own the database?
Christopher:
Exactly. Thats right. So we sign a contract with them that we dont mess
with the database, we dont do business with advertisers directly. We give
them that control. We give them that interface. We have to own it to allow
them to target other users of networks. Thats another thing. If lets say,
a sports manufacturer wants to send a location based targeted tailored
advertisement to a shoe manufacturer or something or a ticketing company,
then they can do that through our network, so they can advertise cross
network. We charge a premium for that which is how we intend to make
money.
Victoria:
Do you divulge information from your database? Is that at all part of
your business model or not?
Christopher:
We anonymize data by reports. Its anonymized and generalized. Do women
age 18 to 24 tend to be more receptive to this kind of advertising, or do they
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tend to go to these types of places more? Because everything is locationbased but we dont sell data about our users. Obviously, a high priority for us
is data-protection, security, and privacy.
Victoria:
So ok, aside from the fact that youre working on a product that has
location-based services, what is the difference between you and Ning?
Christopher:
Us and Ning? Ning is predominantly web-focused. Thats one difference.
Another difference would be is that when you go to Ning, they very much
have a brand presence, Nings brand presence, which we dont have. Those
are the two main differences. So we remove our brand, and we make it
location based, and do it mobile. So its all those combined. Ning, I think, is
obviously a great company. I respect them a lot. And they may be the closest
to what we are doing.
Victoria:
But their business model is very different, isnt it?
Christopher:
I think, Im not sure, but I think they rely on typical web-based advertising.
We dont deal with advertisers directly. We charge our partners a fixed,
per thousand communication model, which is very easy to control. We
dont have to run around to 10,000 different merchants or 10,000 different
agencies. We only collect from our partners.
Victoria:
I think Ning charges for customized
solutions, if there are customers who
choose not to use the suffix .ning.com.
Theyve got to be monetizing their
database, which I understand they own
as well. Do you have any idea if there are
any similarities to your business model
at least on that aspect?
Christopher:
I think there are definitely some similarities.
I think if they go the traditional social
networking web-based advertising
revenue model, theyre going to have
some problems. Because everyone whos
implemented this model is. Personally, this
is a bit of digression of my own thoughts on
this. I think that the inability to monetize
eyeballs, monetize large databases is kind
of the end of web 2.0 as we see it. All these
massively inflated valuations of companies
such as Facebook and Twitter and Slide.com.
They just make apps for Facebook right? And they have a $500M valuation.
I think a lot of these crazy valuations are because of some kind of faith that
theyll be able to monetize tons and tons of users, right? Skype has that
problem already as well. They have this massive $4 point something billion
valuation and they havent been able to monetize that 100%. So I think
that how were going to make money from having lots of users. How we,
the people in the industry are going to do that will mark a new era in social
networking, a new era in mobile technology.
Victoria:
Very interesting.
Christopher:
When youre working in the industry, you think about it a lot. As an
entrepreneur as well, you have to develop your own philosophy, your own
views on how things are the way they are and how theyre going to be, right?
And of course if your thoughts arent your own then somebody has already
done it. If they are your own, then youre going to sound like a fool to many
people. Thats the price you pay for originality, right? As an entrepreneur, I
hope its original in a good way, not a cranky way. Time will tell, I guess.
Victoria:
So tell me what body of thought has informed your becoming an
entrepreneur. Was it your undergraduate study? Tell me the evolution
of how you got to where you are now.
Christopher:
As an entrepreneur, you have to have a certain sense, a powerful sense of
dissatisfaction with the way things are done, right? Maybe that sounds too
clich but you have to see ways where life isnt as good as it can be. You cant
really be an entrepreneur because of the profit motive itself. You have to be
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you could do that. Or Oh thats so cool. Seeing the peoples faces light up
and be really moved by something that just a couple of months ago was
just an idea, thats the ultimate thrill. Everything else just doesnt compare
to that.
Victoria:
What was your primary role in developing this company and this
product?
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Christopher:
Im technically the CEO of the company. We try and stay away from that kind
of labeling you know. I think I benefit the company the most in giving people
the fuel to dream, the fuel to hope. When youre a start-up, you have no
money; you have no credibility, nothing except your idea. But oftentimes
an idea is not enough, you have to inspire. And I think thats what I bring.
I wish I could bring more, but I think thats what I bring at the moment to
the company. My other partner, the Austrian guy I met at grad school is our
main tech, CTO and architect. And my other partner is Bizdev because hes
much better at speaking and networking than I am. I think Im kind of just
like the guy that ties everyone together and makes sure we still keep that
dream, we still believe in the dream.
Victoria:
And what is the dream?
Christopher:
What is the dream? You know, to articulate it like that is tricky because
theres a lot of metrics that you can use to define that, financial, employees
or whatever you want to call it. I think for us, all of us, all the founders have
the sense of how the idea has reached its fullest potential that its evolved,
its matured, and its done, yeah. That doneness I suppose, that sense of
completion that is the dream. Its not a financial target; its not like $1 billion
dollars or something. Its that sense that now weve done it. Now we can
evolve, move on, sell, whatever, whatever it is. That I suppose is the dream.
Its that sense that weve completed it.
Victoria:
From your description of your role, you sound like the Chief Inspirator
of your company.
Christopher:
I think thats pretty good. Ill go with that. Im changing it right now
actually.
Victoria:
You said you dont want to have traditional titles. How do you then
negotiate your working relationships?
Christopher:
I think the thing is the hierarchy, right? I should say we botched it a couple
of times in the beginning developing the culture. Im obviously very young;
dont have much experience in this kind of thing. But we wanted to create
a really really cool culture that people felt free but also accountable. Find a
way that we can engage with our staff such that they can be always open,
always willing to try new ideas, while at the same time without it being
Christopher:
In some ways I think so. Were all very idea-centric. All very very curious, very
anxious, crazy people. So I think in that way, we share the same energy and
the same vision. But you know, its difficult to say if someone is like someone
else. I dont know anyone who is like anyone, right? But I think we share
important certain morals, important scruples, important attitudes and thats
the only way a start-up being as volatile as one typically is can consist.
Victoria:
Can you define like a couple of those shared scruples, morals, and
attitudes?
Christopher:
Loyalty and honesty at the end of the day. I believe its totally possible to
conduct business with integrity. A lot of people have this view that its
very very cutthroat and the only way you can make it is if you screw people
over. I dont believe that. I believe any advantage should come because of
your ability to work hard. So thats another thing. Well I think were very
very industrious. Everything can be compensated for with good ideas and
a really good healthy work ethic. So Id say work ethic, that idea that you
can conduct business with integrity. That old, I guess very commercialized
term, thinking outside the box. Id say that non-traditional problem solving
approaches is also something that characterizes. We also have the ability to
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think you think okay now, I can take a bit of a breather, its completely wrong.
It never ever happens. It just ups the speed and ups your self-confidence
with the thing you can do for the next step. And you end up doing more,
trying to do it quicker, trying to do it better. Its pretty much how it is.
Victoria:
Youre going way too fast Christopher. Can you back up a little bit? I
want to know from when you got this idea, tell me about the process
of creating your prototype. How did you know that it was finally ready
and so forth? Did you do it in a month?
Christopher:
It took about nine months to create a prototype that I felt that we were
comfortable enough showing to an investor. That was then. Now obviously
Ive learnt more. I wouldnt have shown it then. Nine months of pretty
serious work. I personally didnt do any coding. My partner does that. But
I do all the design work and we figure out the functionalities together. I do
the user interface, the UI. The mathematics behind some of the algorithms
but not the actual coding. So nine months of work.
Victoria:
So what do you think were the greatest challenges in actually creating
your prototype?
Christopher:
The technical problems, I would say. If a website, like Ning for example, you
have a few cross browser compatibility problems, but otherwise its quite
easy, its one set of code. When you do mobile applications for mobile clients,
you have to make it compatible on so many different phones and the number
of phones you have to get it working on is just growing with time, with new
releases and so on. So Id say that was really really tough. That is, getting it
functional on a broad range of phones and its still, I would say, our biggest
challenge. That is, getting it compatible. With a new idea, you have to test it
on 200 phones or whatever. Id say thats the toughest part.
Christopher:
We did something. Just something like feasibility studies and I realized
that this partner and I, like we were on the same track. It s like, Holy Cow!
Were going to do it. Its not just conversation. Its not just cheers over beer.
But you execute and you really do it. And thats just like compounding that
whole effect and we began just working on it like nuts. And it hasnt stopped
since then. We built a prototype.
Victoria:
What year was this? Can you name the date and the month?
Christopher:
Yeah, that was the end of February last year (I dont know the exact date)
when we had the idea. From February last year, designing and coding the
whole time. Then summer we brought in our third partner, Ken Lim. And
then when we had a prototype, a show prototype, we began looking for
seed money. We got that in November. Then the legal stuff, we incorporated
it in the States in January. I moved to China with everyone else, with all my
partners, and we set up offices there. So yeah, its just been, since then, you
know, just continuously expanding and developing faster. Every milestone, I
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Victoria:
Are you happy with it now? I mean, whats your satisfaction level on
your prototype.
Christopher:
I would say, again as an entrepreneur, youre never really satisfied. Youre
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proud. You have your silent moments of pride. You say Wow, thats pretty
cool. I cant believe we did that. Its working. But its never ever near good
enough. I dont think youd be an entrepreneur if you were satisfied. Its
always like, okay, now that this is done imagine where we can take it.
Imagine what we could do if we had this feature. Imagine all the extra value,
how much more fun it would be. So I guess the answer is simply, Im not
satisfied. (laughter)
Victoria:
What are the functionalities and features you are most proud of?
Christopher:
Without getting too technical I guess if you want to have a location-based
service, theres a couple of technology options that you can use. You can use
GPS or you can use Cell Tower Triangulations or Cell Tower ID. You can use
Bluetooth. We decided on a system that allows user to define where they
were over mobile Internet using addresses, a physical address, using Google
Maps and to select from a predefined list of places that solves a lot of also
supplementing that with GPS though, and now were doing triangulation.
So that idea, is that people I think in our user studies, that was really well
received. People understood. So where we are right now, you enter an
address, as opposed to trying to figure out how to turn your GPS on and see
your location on a map, which is kind of abstract. I would say the locationbased aspect Im pretty proud of. Also, we have a really tight integration of
our web and our mobile phone suite. Like a lot of mobile companies tend to
see web as kind of a necessary add-on and vice versa for web companies. We
design both from the ground up with the database designed to interact very
closely together, to make a product that people use online, when at work or at
home, and then offline when they are away on the phone. I think thats how
its going to be in the future as well. You cant just be a mobile company, you
cant be a web company, you have to be an information company, like Google
and that means providing value wherever you are, which is nowadays either
on your phone or on your computer, or when youre sleeping. (laughter)
Victoria:
Now can you talk about the process of funding? Congratulations by the
way, thats a great achievement!
Christopher:
Thanks very muchEntrepreneurs are so hell-bent on their idea. Theyre
so passionate about everything. Its really just an annoying obstacleits
just something that has to be done. This convincing a VC of the brilliance
of your ideas, right? Ive come across entrepreneurs who were extremely
extremely arrogant. Ive come across more arrogant entrepreneurs than
venture capitalists because you know, entrepreneurs tend to think, my idea
is going to change the world, youre going to use it, its just genius, wheres
the money, right? For us, I think were a bit more maybe the European
side, or maybe the Filipino side, I dont know, I guess, a bit more modest with
that. We tried really hard to just show the value of the product, to show why
we think it would add value to lives. But of course we had our stories with
VCs. Most of them rejections of course, thats the case for most people. Yeah,
and learnt a lot in the beginning.
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Victoria:
So how many rejections did you get before you got your yes!
Christopher:
Actually our first, our seed round, we got no rejections. This was the first
person we spoke with.
Victoria:
WOW!
Christopher:
We were just lucky. And right now weve secured some more funding in this
round, but we decided to continue raising in light of the positive investor
response. And weve had a few rejections from those already. Some because
the companys too smallYeah, its a great process. You learn an amazing
amount about yourself, about your company, about your products. All of
the things that you kind of cursorily pass over, you really now think about,
you ponder. I guess, an entrepreneur, as he or she evolves, thinks more and
more like a VC. And you see that a lot. You see a lot of entrepreneurs who
join companies or who have successful companies leave there to become
VCs. You realize you know what it takes to have a good company. But its
an entertaining, crazy, crazy experience. You know, as a kid, you can go
into a room talk about a couple million bucks right, and youre trying to be
all serious. Youre trying to be like I do this thing all day, everyday. Im not
fazed by it. But of course 5 minutes before, youre crapping yourself. And
if you get a good response, youre dancing, dancingyou knowlike a
madman. Yeah, its good fun.
Victoria:
Adrenalin, huh?
Christopher:
Tons of it you know, Six Flags is great and scary movies are great but
nothing really beats that kind of adrenalin rush.
Victoria:
So how much funding did you get in your seed round?
Christopher:
In our seed round, we got 150,000 Euros. This round, I cant disclose yet until
we finish it but its going to be at least 250,000 Euros.
[Note from an email received from Christoper on April 1, 2009: 2nd
round negotiations went very well. We raised 250k at a very respectable
valuation.]
Victoria:
Who are your investors?
Christopher:
Also, I cant disclose that. Im not sure if theyd want to be known.
Victoria:
You alluded earlier in the interview re: how your family has influenced
you. Can you tell me a bit more about your Filipino side?
Christopher:
I think the sense of family is very very strong in Filipino culture, right? I
would normally spend one vacation of the year with my Filipino family, and
one with my Austrian family. I adore them obviously both sides equally. But
how family is conducted. The business of family is very different in both.
In the Filipino side, its much larger. My Filipino family, that side has many
more members. I think its the sense of family closeness that regardless of
whatever happens that you always have your support from everyone. Its
very very close. Very warm and I think what that does, or what that did to
meobviously I cant speak for everyonebut what that did for me was it
gave me a lot of confidence. That I felt like I could go and pitch an idea to my
family for my life, my career or whatever and my family would find someone
to help me. They would have really really good responses. They would work
together, with a lot of emotional support, and try and guarantee it, or try
and increase the likelihood of success. And thats exactly what happened
with this companyObviously, Ive had a lot of nervous moments, a lot of
insecure moments, and sad moments in the beginning, even now. And my
Filipino side of the family was very supportive of that, very very warm. And I
think it wouldve been impossible without them, without that kind of classic
Filipino support. It sounds clich but its difficult to explain. The European
side is colder, not less loving, but colder. Its more independent, I guess. It
stresses more on finding your own way and being autonomous and solving
your problems on your own. Its harder, you know. The Filipino side is more
like, its great, lets all get together and talk about it and see who we know,
and see what we can do, and what do you need from me, what do you need
from my family or whatever. And I think that helped a lot.
Victoria:
Kind of like a warm blanket?
Christopher:
Yeah, Im feeling fuzzy now and may cry. But I think that helped. Definitely. I
think a lot of Filipinos who know what other families are like will understand
what I am saying. Its this sense of family unity and closeness, an unrelenting
willingness to help regardless of the circumstance. Its also why Filipinos
get far in life because of that. In the States, I think the statistic is [Filipinos
are the] 2nd highest earning ethnic group behind Japanese or Chinese or
something. I think one of the reasons is because of that cohesion. Everyone
helps each other, tries and guarantees the success of everyone in your clan.
Thats my unprofessional, uninformed theory.
Victoria:
Who are your role models and they dont need to be Filipino. Who do
you really look up to?
Christopher:
My Filipino grandmother. Actually, Im in her house right now. She is a role
model for me. I dont really have role models. Not really role models per
se, just people I really admire, right. So no one I say, I want to be like this
person. Just people with uncharacteristic concentrations or uncharacteristic
development of certain traits that I think are important in leading a good
life. Ultimately its that, right? What makes life good. My grandmother is
one of those people that possesses a trait that I think is really important in
leading a good life. The ability to put everyone ahead of yourself. Yeah, its
like you can see a lot of people, theyre waiting for my time, waiting for time
to talk about their problems, waiting for a chance to stop helping. Like you
can see for a lot of people, when they help, its taxing. You can see that it
causes them a lot of distress, right. There is a cost to something, right. This
is an exchange for something that is ultimately what I want. She has the
characteristic where its the opposite. This is something that is far beyond
me. If I had an iota of what she had then I think I could call this life a success.
Sounds really corny but thats really what I think. Everyone else I tend to
look up to its not because of character or personality but its more because of
some sort of ability or something.
Victoria:
Im jumping to another topic. Why did you choose to go to Shanghai?
Christopher:
Purely for commercial reasons. The Chinese market is, everyone says, insane.
But its really really insane. The entire population of the United Kingdom,
that number of people, buys mobile phones every year. Thats the idea of
the scale. So its really really really insane. I think its the sheer scale thats
exciting. If you get an idea in the States and it has a lot of penetration
and shows a lot of traction and you get 10% of the population, thats 30
million people, right? And that would be a glowing, resounding success. In
China Shanghai where I live at the moment is 18 million people actually.
Officially its more than that probably. So the sheer number of people you
can potentially influence, the number of lives you can potentially better is
amazing. And thats why. I dont really enjoy living there. I miss Europe. I
miss living in Europe. Its that. Its the scale.
Victoria:
Whats your favorite place in the whole world?
Christopher:
I would have to say Vienna. Its really great. Crappy place to work compared
to most places in Asia. Definitely Shanghai. Its far more static, far more
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Victoria:
What did you learn?
Christopher:
You learned that if you want help, ask poor people. John Steinbeck said that
in Grapes of Wrath in a much nicer way. But thats how it is. I played in the
central districts where rich tourists went by and no one gave me anything.
I made all my money in the student district, by the university, where poor
students were. And they would say, ok heres a euro or two or something.
That was really valuable. That blew my mind. I was expecting like these
Japanese American tourists to like look at some young Asian kid on the street
and throw me a 10-euro bill or whatever. Thats not the case at all. It was the
students who had nothing. That was valuable I think.
Victoria:
Do you have a long-term personal vision for yourself? What would it
be? No set time limit.
Christopher:
No set time limit. I want to create a university. I want to start a university
is my goal actually. I would love for this company to work and exit nicely,
financially and have enough funds to set up a university. I mean it sounds
pretty crazy. Everyone thinks Im already crazy. But to set it up with my
current partner actually. This is a dream we both share as well; to create an
institute. Call it university, call it an athenaeum, whatever you want. But
basically a place a place where people canactually, preamblehow
I anticipated university life to be. I was very very shattered in my actual
experience. You know I thought there would be people running around
having deep thoughts. Everything sounds wonderful and nave right now
but thats how I thought. In high school I thought, really smart people go
there and there are great ideas and everyone looks like Plato or something,
right? Obviously its not. It s tons of beer and messing around. Largely I was
with the studious people as well but that original idea of academics and the
supremacy of intellectual life, put it that way, is something that I still want
to do in a pure way in the institute. Where theres no admissions. Theres no
tuition. Its all funded. Its all non-profit. And everyone comes together who
has an idea and they do it there. Wed pay professors and pay people to give
talks, give lectures, like an Agora or something. Its a bit loosely defined right
now but thats what I want to do. Definitely what I want to do, eventually.
Leave the private sector and go entirely non-profit. I mean if I can afford it.
Thatd be really great.
Victoria:
Wow, thats awesome! Is there anything else youd like to tell the world
about Urbian?
Christopher:
I would say for anyone looking to become an entrepreneur, its an absolutely
miserable life. Its crap. You work like hell. You dont get paid or anything.
But I would highly highly suggest that you do it anyways. Just do it. Try and
do as much with this life as possible. And I think becoming an entrepreneur
is a good way to do it.
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