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"Basically the state of Illinois was for sale," U.S. Attorney Patrick
Fitzgerald said.
Ryan did not immediately return a call for comment and no one
answered the door at his home in Kankakee. His attorney, Dan
Webb, issued a statement saying he was confident Ryan "will be
exonerated and a jury will find him not guilty of all charges."
The graft scandal was a factor in his 2001 decision not to seek a
second term, and his unpopularity was considered a major reason
GOP candidates were routed statewide in 2002, including the
election of a Democratic governor for the first time since 1972.
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12-19-2003 06:32 AM
Ryan was the 66th person charged in the investigation and the
fourth former Illinois governor to be indicted by a federal grand jury
in as many decades.
The scandal was a factor in his decision not to seek a second term,
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12-23-2003 11:48 PM
"I'm absolutely not guilty of those charges," Ryan said after his
arraignment.
He said prosecutors did not have witnesses who could testify that
Ryan had taken a bribe; that the jury would be impressed by Ryan's
"courage" in addressing problems in Illinois' death penalty system;
and that Ryan was a man of modest means who makes ends meet
on his pension and Social Security checks, and therefore obviously
had not enriched himself through corruption.
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12-25-2003 12:46 PM
Ryan and his co-defendant, lobbyist Larry Warner, are due in court
Monday for jury selection in their trial.
"They haven't got one witness that said they gave me a corrupt
dollar or they paid me off in any fashion with money," the 71-year-
old Republican said in a July interview with Chicago's WGN-TV.
"He was basically unelectable by the time he made the decision not
to run," said University of Illinois-Springfield political scientist Kent
Redfield.
Just before leaving office, Ryan commuted the sentences of all 167
Illinois death row inmates to life and pardoned four men convicted
of murder, saying evidence against them was unconvincing. He had
earlier put a hold on state executions, citing a flawed system that
sent 13 wrongfully convicted men to death row.
"It's one of those things that's happened. We'll see how it all comes
together," he told the AP in a recent interview.
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http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/l..._249141409.html
Ryan said it was "the saddest day of his life," and thanked the
attorneys who had given him pro bono legal assistance.
CBS 2's Mike Parker said the look on Ryan's face when the
sentence was announced was one of "absolute and utter
disbelief. He looked as if he had been smashed in the knees
with a shovel."
But defense attorneys for Ryan had asked for a lighter sentence
because of the governor's age and health problems, including
Crohn's disease. They also said his work over the years should
be considered, and have been arguing for a shorter sentence.
But CBS 2 Legal Analyst Irv Miller said, “This judge wants to
deter other public servants from doing the same thing, and
that's going to be the main thrust in asking for eight to 10 years
despite his health and age.”
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http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/loc..._249180941.html
Dorothy Tucker
Reporting
But in this college Ryan will have to give up his suit and tie and
replace it with an army green shirt and khakis. He will be on a
strict schedule, up at 6:30 a.m., and will work a menial job for
as little as 15 cents an hour, according to prison expert Herbert
Hoelter.
“The work is boring. There are jobs in food service, there are
jobs in laundry, there are jobs as orderlies,” Hoelter said.
When his job is done, Ryan will have free time to read or watch
TV with the other inmates.
Because of his fight against the death penalty, experts say Ryan
will garner a huge amount of support behind bars. And most
inmates will probably address him as "governor."
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09-06-2006 11:53 PM
Her 32-page order effectively told Ryan, who was convicted in April,
to start serving his 6 1/2 year federal prison sentence on January 4.
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10-16-2006 12:52 PM
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10-17-2006 03:31 AM
By MIKE ROBINSON
But the appeals court said in its ruling Tuesday that if it upholds the
racketeering and fraud conviction handed down by a federal court
jury last April, the 72-year-old Ryan must go immediately to prison.
Prosecutors said there was little chance the guilty verdict reached
after a six-month trial before Pallmeyer would be overturned on
appeal, so Ryan should start his sentence as scheduled.
Reporters did not realize the ruling had been issued Tuesday until
Wednesday morning.
Webb noted that such decisions by the court are very unusual.
Attorneys said there was no way to predict how long the appeals
court would take to uphold Ryan's conviction or grant him a new
trial. But the order suggested that Ryan will remain free pending
that decision.
There was nothing in the order itself to hint at how the court might
rule on Ryan's appeal. But prominent Chicago defense attorney Rick
Halprin, who had predicted Ryan would get the unusual appeal
bond, said the decision was guaranteed to rekindle hope within the
Ryan camp.
Besides the jurors who were replaced, Ryan's lawyers cited a juror
who brought legal papers she found on the Internet into the jury
room.
"When the alternates were initially excused the court directed that
they not consider media attention until they learned that the verdict
was returned," Pallmeyer said. Thus they were not biased by
publicity surrounding the case after the verdict.
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Madigan spokesman Scott Mulford told the Chicago Tribune for its
Thursday editions that the attorney general's opinion on Ryan's
pension had been exhaustively researched and "speaks for itself."
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"The fact that the trial may not have been picture perfect is, in
itself, nothing unusual," Judge Diane Wood wrote in the majority
opinion, joined by Judge Daniel Manion.
Judge Michael Kanne dissented and said Ryan and his co-defendant,
businessman-lobbyist Larry Warner, should get a new trial. Kanne
said the concession that the trial wasn't picture perfect was "a
whopping understatement by any measure" and called the jury
deliberations "dysfunctional."
had said then that he would have to report within 72 hours unless
granted a new trial, said former federal prosecutor Patrick M.
Collins, who spearheaded the corruption investigation.
"He can still appeal things, but even with those appeals pending, by
court order, he has to report," Collins said.
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08-26-2007 02:57 PM
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=64003
decision.
"This case was always about breach of the public trust," said
Collins.
With the denial of rehearing, Collins said he's not counting any
chickens before they're hatched, but he does get a sense that
things could be over soon.
But Ryan intends to fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme
Court, Thompson said.
"(A fair trial is) the most fundamental right that we have," said
Thompson. "If the forum isn't fair, then all of your other rights
are irrelevant, aren't they?"
"I don't contest, if the trial was fair, the evidence was
sufficient," he said.
But he quickly clarified that didn't mean Ryan was guilty. A new
trial could allow in much of the evidence Ryan thought would
show his innocence, and possibly result in a different verdict,
Thompson said.
The trial judge, U.S. District Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer, threw off
some jurors whose records didn't match their statements during
jury selection but kept others. In the end, she found some of
their explanations credible but did not believe others.
Collins pointed out that the trial took as long as it did, in part,
because of requests by the defense.
"I think she's one of the most fair, if not the most fair judge in
the building," he said.
Some jurors in the case said they felt Thursday's ruling was an
endorsement of their finding.
"I was pleased with the decision by the appellate court," juror
James Cwick of Glen Ellyn said. "This is just further upholding of
rulings made by the three-judge panel and Judge Pallmeyer. I
don't wish jail on anybody. But it was his actions that caused
this."
Rein said, "We had it right all along. Hopefully he goes off, and
he does his time."
"I think it's unfair," said Ezell, of Chicago. "Although I was not
surprised. At this point, I've lost hope. I've lost hope for him
that he's going to get any justice."
If they won't hear the case, "that will be the end of the line,"
Thompson said.
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11-05-2007 01:27 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...1,2477899.story
Former Gov. George Ryan won a small legal victory this week
as federal prison officials agreed to reassign him to a facility in
Oxford, Wis.
Registered: Jul 2003 Ryan had opposed his original assignment -- a similar facility in
Location: Chicago, Illinois Duluth, Minn. -- because it would have required his family to
Posts: 9967 travel twice as far for visits.
"They would clean the common area. They would mop. They
would sweep, clean the bathrooms," Ponce said.
The prison camps do not have cells, but rather rooms that are
typically shared by two to four inmates, said Ponce, who
compared the housing to "a college dorm or converted army
barracks."
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11-05-2007 01:28 AM
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Why are these even issues at all? These two scumbags were
tried in a court of law by a jury of their peers, found guilty by
the same, and sentenced in accordance with current law. What
is there left to argue? They're going to prison, at a facility of the
government's choosing, and that's that. IOW, they're getting
the same treatment that would be doled out to any average
citizen convicted of the same crime. These scumbags deserve
no special treatment or consideration whatsoever that would
not be granted to ordinary citizens under the same
circumstances. PERIOD.
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liberranter I wonder what form of demeaning manual labor they'll have him
Super Moderator doing? Whatever it is, it'll probably be the first honest day's
work he's ever done in his adult life.
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11-06-2007 05:48 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...hi_breaking_500
Ryan and Warner have remained free on bail while their lawyers
have argued--unsuccessfully so far--that a series of juror
controversies deprived them of a fair trial.
The two can still ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review their
case, but the ruling today means they must await the high
court's decision in prison. Warner, who was sentenced to almost
3½ years in prison, is set to surrender Wednesday at a prison
camp in Littleton, Colo.
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The U.S. Supreme Court’s denial of his bail earlier in the day
ended Ryan’s year-long fight to remain free following conviction
on federal racketeering and fraud charges.
“It would have been easy over the course of these to fold to the
unrelenting pressure of a plea agreement,” said Ryan. “It would
have spared my family a lot of pain, but such a plea would not
have been truthful.”
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11-07-2007 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by GC505
Ryan said he intends to continue fighting to
prove his innocence as he enters the new
phase in his life.
Damn that rings a bell... there was another scumbag that said
Registered: Jul 2003 the same thing a while back... Oh yeah. It was OJ Simpson.
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With any luck, this will be the FINAL phase in George's life.
Hopefully his thieving, lying ass will die in there, but even then
the taxpayers will be forced to cough up more of their money. I
vote to let the criminal cocksucker die in there, then toss his
worthless corpse to the rats.
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11-07-2007 03:11 AM
GC Marciano This is from the front page of the Chicago Sun-Times last
Copwatcher Extraordinaire November after the courts ruled that George Ryan would be
allowed to stay free on bail while his appeal was heard.
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11-07-2007 03:27 AM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/poli...754401620071107
Ryan has been nominated several times for a Nobel Peace Prize
because of his opposition to the death penalty. In 2000 he
ordered a moratorium on executions in Illinois after 13 death
row inmates were found to have been wrongly convicted.
The scandals paved the way for Democrats to regain the Illinois
governor's seat for the first time in more than a quarter century
with Rod Blagojevich's election in 2002. Blagojevich won a
second term in 2006.
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11-07-2007 05:43 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/...brown07.article
But I can't let him get away with that little speech when I know
many of you sat there at home watching it on television while
sputtering just like me, but without the platform to express
yourselves.
Ryan should have just kept his mouth shut if he didn't have the
sense or decency to acknowledge the error of his ways.
He should have waved at the cameras and climbed into his car
and drove to Oxford, Wis., and waved once more from inside
the car when he got up there.
Ryan should have saved the baloney about "still fighting for
justice" for the people who drank the Kool-Aid and think he's a
martyr because he brought a halt to the death penalty in Illinois.
You did everything the feds accused you of doing -- and more --
and the people of Illinois know it.
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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
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"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated
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11-08-2007 11:47 AM
http://cbs2chicago.com/illinoiswire...evich-Inves.xml
suspicious circumstances.
"It's not about serving the people. It's not even about serving
partisan interests. It's about enriching yourself and your
friends," Stewart said.
check for $1,500. The governor said it was a gift for one of his
daughters, but he wasn't sure which one.
Blagojevich also is not the only one under the gun. For
example, Ottenhoff pointed to recent convictions for improper
political hiring at Chicago City Hall.
"One wonders why anyone who reads the papers would get
within a mile of questionable conduct," Roberts said.
"It's whether you did things right or wrong. Clearly, Gov. Ryan
did things wrong," Blagojevich said recently. "A jury of his peers
found that he did wrongdoing. And now the sad reality is that
he is facing the consequences of that wrongdoing."
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11-09-2007 03:20 AM
Navigatr1 U.S. Supreme Court urged to reject former Gov. George Ryan's appeal
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Registered: Jul 2003 "This action would not pardon him of his crimes or remove the
Location: Chicago, Illinois record of his conviction, but it would allow him to return to his
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senator said in a letter asking Bush to free the former
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her side.
Durbin is adding his voice to others who have called for Ryan's
freedom, including Gov. Rod Blagojevich. In his letter, Durbin
described Ryan's circumstances in dismal terms.
"He has lost his state pension benefits and a commutation will
not restore them," Durbin said. "He would emerge from prison
facing economic uncertainty at an advanced stage of his life."
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12-02-2008 01:04 AM
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=9439393
CHICAGO (AP) - U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin has asked the president
to commute former Gov. George Ryan's corruption sentence.
Durbin has said the former governor has paid a price for his
crimes by losing his government pension, having his family
name ruined and being separated from his frail wife.
Attachment: durbin_letter12.1.08_ryan_prison.pdf
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12-02-2008 01:06 AM
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=9459320
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12-08-2008 08:36 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,7729779.story
Registered: Jul 2003 Ryan's 75-year-old wife, Lura Lynn, has a terminal lung disease
Location: Chicago, Illinois and says she now is on oxygen 24 hours a day.
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And Ryan's attorney, former Gov. Jim Thompson, says Ryan
himself has health problems, including kidney disease and
infected teeth.
Ryan, who was sent to a federal prison in Indiana after his 2006
conviction on corruption charges, turns 76 next Wednesday.
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02-18-2010 05:02 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...obref=obnetwork
Registered: Jul 2003 Lura Lynn Ryan, 75, who has a terminal lung disease, said that
Location: Chicago, Illinois she is on oxygen 24 hours a day. While she still talks to her
Posts: 9967 husband daily, "it's not like having him here," she said.
"Knowing that I may have a limited time makes it harder."
Ryan, in federal prison in Indiana for more than two years, also
has health problems, including kidney disease and infected
teeth, his lawyer, former Gov. Jim Thompson said. Ryan, sent
to prison after his 2006 conviction on corruption charges, turns
76 next Wednesday.
Lura Lynn Ryan confirmed she had made a previous plea for
clemency for her imprisoned husband in 2008 by calling then-
President George W. Bush's mother, former first lady Barbara
Bush. "She was not able to be helpful," Ryan said in a telephone
interview from her Kankakee home.
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02-18-2010 05:04 PM
http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html
"I agree with Justice Burke that they've changed the law," he
said.
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02-19-2010 05:17 PM
Vundering Govs. George Ryan and Otto Kerner Jr. didn’t deserve pensions (IL)
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Crooked politicians are entitled to 0
Illinois politicians like Govs. George Ryan and Otto Kerner Jr.
didn’t deserve pensions
But his education, military record and rise to prominence did not
matter on this day or in the ensuing litigation.
Kerner did not prevail despite the pathos. Neither did his children.
After his death, the Illinois Supreme Court reviewed the situation
and stood firmly in 1978 behind a law barring public pensions for
those who betray the public's trust.
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The U.S. attorney's office has not confirm the information, and
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12-09-2008 11:30 AM
http://www.abajournal.com/news/illi...n_into_custody/
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12-09-2008 11:32 AM
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A source said today that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into
federal custody at his North Side home this morning. The U.S.
attorney's office would not confirm the information.
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12-09-2008 11:35 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,7997804.story
Registered: Jul 2003 A source said today that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into
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"I don't believe there's any cloud that hangs over me. I think
there's nothing but sunshine hanging over me," the governor
said.
"To begin with, they didn't get it right," he said. "John Wyma's
lawyer put out a statement. The Tribune was wrong and very
well may have defamed him."
But the statement from Wyma's lawyer did not directly address
the Tribune story and instead appeared directed at media
outlets and others who reported Wyma wore a wire.
Wyma's lawyer also did not respond to the Tribune's report that
Wyma was cooperating with investigators. "John Wyma is a
friend of mine, he was my chief of staff, and I'm sure whatever
he does, he does ethically and follows the rules," the governor
said.
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12-09-2008 11:39 AM
GC Marciano CONFIRMED:
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Ill. Governor Arrested On Federal Charges
http://cbs13.com/national/illinois....d.2.883157.html
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12-09-2008 11:42 AM
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12-09-2008 11:53 AM
GC Marciano New information says the Governor was caught on tape by FBI
Copwatcher Extraordinaire agents undercover recordings as he tried to sell, auction off or
trade Barack Obama's newly-vacated senate seat.
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12-09-2008 11:58 AM
MGMAN Well maybe he will share a cell with the last Gov. I wonder if the Lt
Senior Member Gov will be better.
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"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
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— W. Somerset Maugham, Strictly Personal (1941)
12-09-2008 12:37 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209...orruption_probe
"They allege that Blagojevich put a for sale sign on the naming
of a United States senator," Fitzgerald said."
Among those being considered for the post include U.S. Reps.
Danny Davis and Jesse Jackson Jr.
He also did not have any details about Blagojevich's arrest, only
that he was cooperative with federal agents.
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12-09-2008 01:14 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,3350606.story
Registered: Jul 2003 McKenna issued a statement hours after Blagojevich's arrest.
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Blagojevich complained that Obama's team
wasn't "willing to give me anything except
appreciation" in exchange for appointing
Obama's preferred candidate.
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12-09-2008 02:35 PM
liberranter I'll say this much in Blagojevich's favor: At least the scumbag is
Super Moderator open and honest about his selfish, corrupt motives. Actually,
I've noticed this from several Illinois politicians in the past. I
remember Dan "Stamps" Rostenkowski, when caught with his
hand in the Congressional Postal Service cookie jar years ago,
being wholly unapologetic and saying something to the effect of
"this is how we do things back in Chicago."
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12-09-2008 03:47 PM
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12-09-2008 08:42 PM
"And if I don't get what I want and I'm not satisfied with
it, then I'll just take the Senate seat myself. [The Senate
seat] "is a fucking valuable thing, you just don't give it
away for nothing."
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12-10-2008 01:27 AM
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"He is still the sitting governor of Illinois today, now, and that is
not something we have any say in or control of," U.S. Attorney
Patrick Fitzgerald said in unveiling corruption charges on
Tuesday against the 52-year-old governor.
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12-10-2008 09:44 PM
kola Blago was nailed only because he pissed off Bank Of America.
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Several years ago, when Mr. Blagojevich was running for re-
election, Cooley provided the same information to the ABC7 I-
Team. Because Cooley did not want to be identified at the time
and the governor denied it, ABC7 did not report the story.
"I predicted five years ago when he ran the first time that
he was a hands on person who would be selling every
position in the state of Illinois and that it exactly what
happened," said Cooley.
"The biggest problem you have now and reason for what is
happening is that the people in power have money and ability to
silence the media so it will never be reported and as long as you
have that going on, you will never stop it," Cooley.
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"I love the people of Illinois today more than I ever have
before," he said. And in a joking reference to Chicago's history
"He was calm, he was organized and he was a lot less feisty and
argumentative than he had been earlier in the week on all those
talk shows," said CBS News Legal Analyst Andrew Cohen. "His
appeal was simple: I may be a rough and tumble governor who
likes to cut through red tape, who pushes too hard, but my
motives were always good and my conduct was always legal.
That's a tough sell in politics or law."
In the brash and often theatrical style that has infuriated fellow
politicians for years, Blagojevich repeatedly refused to resign,
reciting the poetry of Kipling and Tennyson and declaring at one
point last month: "I will fight. I will fight. I will fight until I take
my last breath. I have done nothing wrong."
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01-31-2009 02:41 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/poli...E5317XB20090403
FREE ON BOND
Blagojevich and former chief of staff John Harris have been free
on bond since a brief court appearance on December 9.
Harris, 47, was charged with a single count of fraud and has
agreed to cooperate with prosecutors. Rezko has also been
cooperating.
"We can only hope the former governor will not view this
indictment as a green light for another publicity tour," said U.S.
Senator Dick Durbin. "Rod Blagojevich deserves his day in court
but the people of Illinois deserve a break."
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04-02-2009 10:48 PM
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04-02-2009 10:51 PM
"I never intended to sell the Senate seat," he says. "I was merely
engaged in the ordinary and routine politicking that frequently
accompanies a significant appointment by the governor."
The ex-governor writes that he must continue to clear his name, for
both the sake of his family and the country. Though he says that he
often felt tempted to blame the United States for his downfall, he
now places the blame squarely on Fitzgerald's shoulders.
The store had sold two copies, including one to a man described as
the Fabio look-a-like who accompanied Blagojevich to a block party
appearance earlier this summer where Blagojevich sang the Elvis
classic "Treat Me Nice."
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04-15-2010 11:45 PM
Navigatr1 Man testifies Blagojevich gave him job after $50,000 in donations
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the state.
Ata said he didn't get his job with the Finance Authority until after
donating another $25,000 to the Blagojevich campaign a year later.
Much of the testimony in the first two weeks of the trial has come
from witnesses who took the stand two years ago at the trial of
Blagojevich fundraiser Tony Rezko. Rezko was convicted of planning
to launch a $7 million kickback scheme and is awaiting sentence.
She said they managed to get their friends five of the nine seats on
the board that governed the Illinois Finance Authority. That came in
handy for Ata when he was nominated for the post of executive
director of the authority, which provides public financing to
businesses, nonprofit groups and local government agencies
throughout the state.
"I was startled," he said. He said he told the two men no.
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Cook County State's Attorney Dick Devine says the charges against
CBS 2's Dana Kozlov reports the officers are in custody in Cook
County Jail awaiting a court appearance on Friday.
“We didn’t just look at one case. Rather, we looked at the activities
and the numerous violations and complaints we had received on
these officers as a whole, “said Debra Kirby with the Chicago Police
Department’s Internal Affairs.
Just one year ago, Suchocki was one of several Chicago police
officers who helped Hurricane Katrina victims in New Orleans.
“Using the police badge essentially to intimidate and get into the
homes of people is certainly a dramatic and key element of what we
are talking about,” Devine said.
But he declined to release many details of the case until after the
officers' court appearance on Friday. If convicted, they could face
up to 30 years in prison.
Cline says the officers will be suspended without pay and the
department will move to fire them.
"Officers who violate the public trust will be held accountable," Cline
said.
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“We didn’t just look at one case. Rather, we looked at the activities
Just one year ago, Suchocki was one of several Chicago police
officers who helped Hurricane Katrina victims in New Orleans.
“Using the police badge essentially to intimidate and get into the
homes of people is certainly a dramatic and key element of what we
are talking about,” Devine said.
But he declined to release many details of the case until after the
officers' court appearance on Friday. If convicted, they could face
up to 30 years in prison.
Cline says the officers will be suspended without pay and the
department will move to fire them.
"Officers who violate the public trust will be held accountable," Cline
said.
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09-08-2006 10:11 AM
Cook said his girlfriend and her two children watched in horror as
the four cops ransacked his home, demanding, "Where's the stuff?"
Finnigan smacked Cook repeatedly, saying, "You don't want to f---
with us," the lawsuit said.
Cook said he called the police department to complain May 29. The
next day, a sergeant came to his house, Cook said.
A day or two later, the sergeant allegedly returned and said he had
talked to Finnigan and the others about the incident. The sergeant
allegedly said the officers could do what they wanted and warned
Cook that drugs could be found in his car if he were pulled over,
and that he would lose everything and go to prison, the lawsuit
said. Cook said he agreed he would not file a complaint if the
officers would stay away from his house.
fmain@suntimes.com
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11-03-2006 11:17 AM
dheinzmann@tribune.com
csadovi@tribune.com
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Finnigan and other rogue officers inside their Southwest Side home.
"You have two the kids, and you want to protect the kids, but you
are too busy getting beat up and hand cuffed by police," said
Robert Cook, alleged victim.
Officer Finnigan has not been charged in this incident but the
firefighter's description of what he says happened to him is just as
terrifying -- just as brutal -- as the charges already filed against
Finnigan by Cook County prosecutors.
Cook says indicted Chicago Police Officer Jerome Finnigan was the
leader of the pack. In a federal lawsuit filed Wednesday, Cook
claims Finnigan and others barged into his home looking for drugs
and demanding money.
Cook says Officer Finnigan shouted "you don't want to (blank) with
us, do you know who we are? We are the police, you (blank) with
us -- you'll go to prison, you'll lose your job."
"You are supposed to be protecting me, and you are telling me that
you could have my job like this and he japed his fingers. But, they
have got guns and they can do what then. And I could be pulled
over any time," said Cook.
The state's attorney's office says the office is aware of the incident
at Cook's home but prosecutors can't include it in their case against
Finnigan because the statute of limitations has run out.
Officer Finnigan and three other have had their police powers
suspended and the department is working to fire them. They left
court refusing to comment.
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11-03-2006 12:32 PM
Joanie Lum
Reporting
(CBS) CHICAGO Four officers were charged last month with abusing
their power for personal gain. Now, one of the alleged victims of
their wrongdoing is fighting back.
CBS 2's Joanie Lum reports on firefighter Robert Cook, who says he
was victimized by a rogue cop.
Cook says he's been living in terror for four years, since four
Chicago police officers allegedly broke into his southwest side
house, beat him and waved guns at him, his girlfriend and her
young children.
"You don't believe they're cops, you want to protect the children but
you're too busy being beat up and handcuffed by people who claim
they're police," said Cook.
"He looked at me and said, I can pick up my phone and -snap- have
your job," Cook said.
"He was terrified of losing his job, them coming back, planting
evidence, things of that nature," said Lawrence Jackowiack, Cook's
attorney.
Cook would not come forward until today because he said he feared
for his safety.
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"After cutting him off, Finnegan forced Overly to pull his truck off to
the side of the road," the suit says. "Once both vehicles were pulled
over, Finnegan approached Overly, who had stepped down from his
truck, and began to attack him. When Mr. Overly attempted to
defend himself," the suit says, "Finnegan displayed his [service ]
weapon to Mr. Overly and informed him that he was a police
officer."
Overly tried to call 911 on his cell phone, the suit claims, but
Finnegan attacked him, pulling him to the ground and forcing him
to hang up. Overly tried to call 911 a second time, but Finnegan
"once again forced him to hang up."
Finnegan then held Overly down while he called police and said he
needed assistance. Chicago police and Illinois State Troopers
responded to the scene and "based upon Finnegan's false
statements, Mr. Overly was placed under arrest," the suit claims.
"As a result of the false charges, Mr. Overly was fired from his job
and was able to return to work only after the charges against him
were dismissed," the suit says.
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Officer faces new shakedown charges
By Azam Ahmed
Chicago Tribune
June 13, 2007
Prosecutors said Finnigan and two other officers from the elite
special operations section stopped a man parked at a gas station
near Central Avenue and the Stevenson Expressway in September
2004. The officers forced the man to reveal his home address in
unincorporated Cook County, they said.
'After taking the victim's cell phone, driver's license and car keys,
one of the officers stayed with the victim and drove him to a
different location several blocks away while Finnigan and the other
officer went to the victim's home address,' Assistant State's Atty.
David Navarro said in court.
Finnigan and the other officer then ransacked the man's home
without a warrant or probable cause to search, Navarro said. The
man's wife was present but was given no explanation, he said.
The man was released near his home after Finnigan called to tell
the officer to 'ditch the package,' Navarro said.
'Finnigan and the other two officers drove to one of the officers'
homes in Chicago, where the money was divided equally between
the three, $150,000 apiece,' Navarro said.
Prosecutors said the unnamed victim's cash came from the sale of
property in Mexico.
However, the victim did not report the theft to police, saying he
feared police reprisal, according to prosecutors. But he told a
private attorney about the incident, they said.
At the brief hearing, Cook County Circuit Judge John Fleming denied
a request from the prosecution to increase Finnigan's bail amount -
currently $4 million. The new charges came as Finnigan and five
other officers - Keith Herrera, Carl Suchocki, Tom Sherry, Margaret
Hopkins and Frank Villareal - await trial on charges they stole
thousands of dollars from drug dealers or other people who they
believed would not file police reports. A seventh officer, James
McGovern, was charged with official misconduct.
All the officers have been stripped of their police powers, Monique
Bond, a spokeswoman for Chicago Police Department, said
Wednesday.
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Navigatr1 Chicago Police Officer Jerome Finnigan held in murder plot (IL)
Extended Sabatical
But he didn't worry about the cop sitting next to him. He believed
they were in the plot together, federal prosecutors said, and that
both would benefit from hiring someone to kill their former fellow
officer.
The police officer who wore the wire began cooperating recently and
immediately told investigators of the plot to kill another former SOS
team member, authorities said. The man is no longer a police
officer, but he has been named in several civil lawsuits that claimed
he was part of Finnigan's team that robbed, kidnapped and falsely
arrested people over several years.
Shackled at the feet and dressed in jeans and a faded green sweat
shirt turned inside out, Finnigan appeared briefly in court
Attorney Joseph Lopez said that a client, Frank Villareal, was one of
the targets. Villareal was one of two police officers charged months
after the original arrests in the case that netted Finnigan and
Officers Keith Herrera, Carl Suchocki and Tom Sherry.
The complaint alleges that Finnigan had been planning to kill the
former officer since at least July and that he told the cooperating
witness after an Aug. 7 court hearing that the "paint job" was "all
taken care of."
Finnigan, who joined the Police Department in 1988, was given the
department's award for valor for heroism in the line of duty in 1999.
In one case, four SOS officers drew their guns to clear out a
Southwest Side bar and then forced the owner to take them to his
suburban home, where he was robbed of thousands of dollars, the
initial state charges alleged.
Sources familiar with the investigation said that internal affairs "did
very little" to investigate the claims from people who said they were
robbed by SOS officers. But a spokeswoman for the Chicago Police
Department said Wednesday that the department fully investigated
claims against SOS and had tried to get the state's attorney's office
to prosecute them earlier.
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The one officer wasn't the only one Finnigan's hit list. "There
were three other officers that he talked about killing as well,"
Fitzgerald said.
Court records show the police officer Finnigan was trying to hire
to help him with the crime and the officer he was allegedly
plotting to kill are both co-defendants in the state charges he
faces. Those charges include armed robbery, armed violence,
home invasion and kidnapping. Finnigan was already out on a
$4 million bond for those charges.
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chitownbrian Before we jump to judgement on this guy, let's look at who he was
Senior Member trying to have knocked off...some P.O.S. fired cop who beat,
framed and robbed people for years! Maybe we should give him a
Registered: Nov 2004 merit badge on his way to jail for his other crimes!
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Posts: 103 Why didn't they wait until after the hit to pinch him? That would
have been better! Holding him to the letter of the law for trying to
bump off a P.O.S.....I dunno! It's kind of like arresting a guy for
shooting a rabid dog within city limits...I say screw the dog, let it
get shot!
09-28-2007 01:26 AM
His law enforcement career started badly -- and will probably end
much, much worse.
Finnigan, 44, won numerous awards for his work in SOS. He was a
member of the Hostage-Barricade-Terrorist Incident team and won
the Superintendent's Award of Valor in 1999 for saving a store
owner during a robbery attempt. He also was named top cop by the
Illinois Police Association.
Finnigan was charged last year in Cook County Criminal Court with
leading a band of six other SOS officers in carrying out home
invasions, robberies and assaults since 2002. One of his co-
defendants, Officer Thomas Sherry, boasted on his MySpace site
that he was a fan of Vic Mackey, the fictional crooked cop in the TV
show, "The Shield."
Right up to the point he was first arrested last year, Finnigan was
considered by many to be a model cop.
"His resume looked great with all those accolades," said board
chairman Eugene Wroblewski.
They met before Birkett ran for Illinois attorney general in 2002.
Birkett was visiting the Chicago Police Department's Austin District
on the Far West Side.
"I was in the hallway," Birkett recalled. "He said nice things and
handed me his card. He said, 'Joe, if you ever need any help' and I
said 'thanks.'"
"Of course, now I think this guy should go down and never see the
light of day again," Birkett said.
$2,500 to charity.
Finnigan, called Jerry by his friends and family, is married with a 16-
year-old son and was living on the South Side. He's one of 12
siblings.
He graduated in 1981 from Kelly High School on the South Side and
attended various city colleges and Lewis University in Romeoville,
where he studied criminal justice, according to his resume and
other records.
Finnigan was a carpenter before becoming a cop, and his father was
a painter. Ironically, in his murder-for-hire case, he's accused of
code-naming intended murders as "paint jobs."
The girlfriend, Chicago Police Officer Mariam Hamad, said they had
argued after visiting a Rush Street bar. At her Northwest Side
home, John Finnigan asked if she wanted to play Russian roulette
before he shot himself in the head, she said.
Jerome Finnigan was furious that Hamad kept his brother's Ford
Taurus after his death.
For two years after the suicide, Finnigan drove past her home
looking for the car. Then in 2001, a cop tipped him that it was in
her driveway. Finnigan and SOS partner Carl Suchocki, also a co-
defendant in the corruption case, drove to Hamad's home and had
the car towed, records show.
"I don't know if you lost a family member, but my brother was very
close to me and it was very traumatic for me," Finnigan testified.
"To be honest with you, it took me a long time to get over it."
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friend2no-thug quote:
"What the government is good at is
collecting taxes, taking away your The indicted officers were arrested and charged in
freedoms and killing people. September. There had been complaints about their
conduct as far back as 2001, but the investigation
accelerated when the state's attorney's office saw a
pattern of officers not showing up in court to testify
against people they arrested.
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retirement of then-Supt. Philip Cline, whom Mayor Richard Daley
replaced with Jody Weis, a former FBI official.
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The four also admitted that they stopped Hispanic motorists who
were driving nice cars, took the drivers' keys and illegally searched
their homes, later dividing the money they found.
But the four cops got light sentences in exchange for their
cooperation. They all could be asked to testify against Finnigan.
Each will spend only six months in jail, but it won't be Cook County
Jail, where as former Chicago police officers, they'd be prime
targets for violence.
The charges outlined against the four officers were truly harrowing.
In one case, the Finnigan, Pratscher and Maka split $450,000 they
stole after an illegal arrest and illegal search of a drug dealers'
home.
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All four have been cooperating for some time in the state and
federal probe of SOS, once one of the department's elite fighting
units. A ring led by former Officer Jerome Finnigan is accused of
making false arrests, committing robberies and home invasions,
acting under the guise of busting street gangs and rounding up
guns.
The charges against the four former officers in Circuit Court signal
that federal indictments in a parallel federal investigation are finally
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Navigatr1 4 former Chicago police officers admit they barged into people's homes,
Extended Sabatical stole money
Five members of the once elite drug and gang unit called the
Special Operations Section still face charges, including Jerome
Finnigan, who is accused of plotting to hire someone to murder
another member of the unit to keep him from talking to the
government. Finnigan and the others have pleaded not guilty.
They said the plea bargain was agreed upon before the current
Cook County State's Attorney, Anita Alvarez, took office. Assistant
State's Attorney Jack Blakey, who heads the special prosecutions
bureau, would not comment on the terms of the deal, in which
prosecutors dropped all the other charges, including kidnapping and
burglary. He said only that the office was "ethically" bound to abide
by it.
Defense attorneys for the four left court without commenting, and
the defendants were not made available for comment.
"The sergeant told Defendant Pratscher that the money would buy
the Sergeant a trip to Vegas," according to the document. And
then, according to the document, the sergeant threatened Pratscher
and his family if he told anyone about the money he'd taken.
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But Villareal, 41, and McGovern, 43, were spared from the jail
time Judge John J. Fleming ordered the others rogue officers to
serve.
pried open a safe and found cash, a gold watch and a 1952 Mickey
Mantle rookie baseball card, McCarthy said, rattling off their crimes.
On June 30, 2004, Villareal searched the first floor of a home as the
alleged scheme's ringleader, Jerome Finnigan, and officer Bart Maka
snatched the phone away from a woman who was pregnant with
triplets, McCarthy said. The woman, handcuffed for objecting to the
illegal search, had been trying to call for help.
On Feb. 14, 2004, when a purported drug dealer told officers they
could find additional cash in a residence in the 5600 block of South
Kostner, McGovern and four others split $10,000 of the
$30,000 to $35,000 they recovered.
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GC Marciano Drew Peterson threatens to kill 2nd wife, 3rd wife murdered, 4th
Copwatcher Extraordinaire wife "missing"...
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The Petersons have two young daughters and also live with
Drew Peterson's two sons from a previous marriage.
"She felt trapped. I talked to her a month ago, and she wanted
out of the marriage, and she feared for her life, she feared
for the children," said Sherrie Mills.
Seized in the search were the couple's 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix,
their 2005 GMC Denali, their personal computers and their cell
phones. Police also seized guns and a computer. The search of
the property also involved cadaver dogs and crime scene
technicians.
"No criminal charges have been filed and no one has been taken
into custody," said Will County state's attorney's office
spokesman Charles Pelkie.
"I believe she's with someone else, but I believe she's safe,"
Peterson said. He said she called him Sunday night and told him
she was leaving, taking some clothes and money from a safe in
the couple's home.
However, Stacy Peterson's family said she would not have left
her two small children. "She just wanted people to know she
was unhappy, and she didn't like how she was being treated,"
said her aunt, Candace Aikin, 48, of El Monte, Calif. "In case
she disappeared -- if something bad happened to her."
Aikin said she talked to her niece every week and knows she did
not have a boyfriend. "She had a husband who was
following her 24/7," she said.
"I know damn well she wouldn't go without them kids," said her
uncle, Gary Cales, 68, of Hemet, Calif.
"Drew and Stacy, they come out and walk with the kids and
stop by the house and pet the dog. And, you know, you become
friendly with your neighbors," said Jim Lepper, neighbor.
"It bothers me," he said. "I've led an honorable life, and people
are looking at me sideways. It hurts."
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Registered: Aug 2007 "It bothers me," he said. "I've led an honorable life, and people are
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If he led such an honorable life, why the heck was he out cheating
on his 3rd. wife?
I don't know if Sgt. Peterson is guilty or not but from what I'm
reading and hearing in the news, he's a slimeball.
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"Everybody is looking for her," Cales told ABC News. "She's a very
loved girl, and she wouldn't just disappear like that."
"We've got search teams coming from around the world to help,"
she added. "We're just gonna go back at it [Sunday]."
"She told me Friday night, 'If anything happens to me, I fear for my
life,'" said Cales, who described her sister's marriage as abusive
and said Stacey was considering divorce.
"I didn't sleep," she told ABC News of the day her sister
disappeared. "I still haven't slept."
"I miss her," Peterson told reporters from the doorstep of his home
Thursday. Peterson has said his wife suffered from "mood issues"
since one of her sisters died from colon cancer last year.
Before she died, Savio had filed an order of protection against her
ex-husband, which read in part, "He wants me dead, and if he has
to, he will burn the house down to shut me up."
"I do think there was foul play," family insider Anthony Laatz told
ABC News. "Stacy wouldn't just disappear and not call Cassandra.
They were very close. They talked all the time."
"I hope to find her," she said. "Right now, I'm trying to find my
sister."
11-05-2007 02:36 PM
Navigatr1 Death of Illinois officer's 3rd wife should have been ruled
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11-08-2007 09:07 PM
The Savio family, reacting to the news, told AMW that the
exhumation will be "bittersweet because we will have to bury
Kathleen again." However, they also told us they are elated that
Kathleen will finally see some long-awaited justice.
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Finally, the POS is named a suspect! AMW has the letter written by
wife #3. The poor woman BEGGED for help and no one did squat.
It's heartbreaking to read how this jerk in uniform treated his wife.
Did this loser think because he was wearing a "uniform" the law
didn't apply to him?
How many of his buddies looked the other way? Was he abusing
I hope they find Stacy - one way or another and I hope Drew gets
arrested very soon.
How could this Sgt. arrest anyone for domestic violence when he
was an offender himself? Sick b@stard!
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http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3844986&page=1
"I am all for it, along with the rest of my family, because
something just was never right," said Doman. "I can't really say
who, but someone did something. I don't think it was an
accident."
Drew Peterson, 53, began dating Stacy when she was 17. They
have two children, ages 2 and 4.
Peterson told reporters the two talked on the phone the day she
disappeared and that he believed she was with another man.
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http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=50297
Stacy's family has asked the Illinois State Police to look into her
disappearance since her husband is a cop with the local police
department. State Police Commander Carl Dobrich announced
that the Bolingbrook police officer is indeed a suspect in Stacy's
disappearance.
The Savio family, reacting to the news, told AMW that the
exhumation will be "bittersweet because we will have to bury
Kathleen again." However, they also told us they are elated that
Kathleen will finally see some long-awaited justice.
The Illinois State Police say that they pinpointed nine different
locations in their investigation and sent a team of investigators
and canines to each. So far, their searches have yielded no new
clues.
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The story has all the elements of a TV movie: Stacy Peterson is the
fourth wife of 53-year-old Drew Peterson, a Bolingbrook cop with a
marred past. The more dirt that gets uncovered about him, the
more people think he's a killer.
Then there was the money angle: Kathleen's death made her two
sons with Drew rich. They inherited the $1 million insurance policy
Drew held on her, and a $600,00 estate.
In the face of all these obvious indicators that Kathleen's death may
not have been accidental, the six-person coroner's jury in 2004
ruled it was. Police and prosecutors went about their business and,
unhappily for Stacy, Drew Peterson went about his. Until State's
Attorney James Glasgow, who wasn't in office when Kathleen died,
announced he was reviewing her death.
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Posts: 5865 assume that Peterson's fellow thugscum will pull out all the
stops to intimidate witnesses and otherwise impede/derail the
ongoing investigation. One wonders how many of them have
blood on their hands.
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Drew Peterson told NBC’s “Today” that his wife fell into a deep
depression after her sister died of cancer, and had been taking
medication. They often had fights after that, he said.
“I’m not trying to be funny, but Stacy would ask me for divorce
after her sister died on a regular basis,” Peterson said. “It was
based on her menstrual cycle.”
Stacy Peterson, 23, was last seen Oct. 28. Authorities say the case
is a potential homicide investigation and have identified her 53-year-
old husband as a suspect.
Peterson believes his wife has left him for another man, and said he
has no plans to look for her because he thinks she left willfully.
Savio was found dead in her bathtub in 2004, her hair soaked in
blood from a head wound, just before the couple’s divorce
settlement was finalized. The death was ruled an accidental
drowning, but investigators now say evidence suggests that
someone killed Savio and tried to make it look like an accident.
“I can look right in your eye and say I had nothing to do with either
Stacy Peterson’s family has said she feared her husband, was
making plans to divorce him and would not have willingly left her
two young children. Savio’s relatives have long suspected she didn’t
drown accidentally.
Peterson has told his two youngest children — aged two and four —
that “basically, mom has gone on a vacation.” The two teenage
sons he fathered with Savio also live with him.
He also pleaded with his wife to return: “Come home,” he said. “Tell
people where you are.”
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Bolingbrook, IL -
The letter, dated Nov. 12, expressed “his intent to resign from the
department, effective immediately,” according to a release issued
by the department’s Media Relations Office.
The board has rescheduled its regular meeting from Monday, Nov.
19, to 7 p.m. Tuesday, Nov. 20, at the Police Department
Administration Office conference room.
A missing person report for Stacy Peterson was filed with the Illinois
State Police Oct. 29 by members of her family.
Since that time Drew Peterson has not worked for the department,
using accrued personal time, according to the Police Department.
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11-17-2007 09:54 AM
Former New York City chief medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden
examined Kathleen Savio's remains on Friday and determined that
she died after a struggle and her body was then placed in the
bathtub where she was later found, Savio's family told WFLD-TV.
"There was marks on her hips, her arms, her elbows, on her legs,
her feet. ... There was a struggle. She did fight," Savio Doman said.
Savio's body was exhumed this week at the request of Will County
State's Attorney James Glasgow, who has said after examining
evidence he believes her death was a homicide staged to look like
an accident.
The results of Will County's official autopsy will not be available for
days, authorities said.
"It gives us a little bit of closure ... but we're still far, far, far away
from getting the closure that we really do need, and that is if
Steve Carcerano, who says he was there when his friend Drew
Peterson first saw Savio's body in the tub, said he was called by a
grand jury looking into Savio's death and is to testify next week.
"He checked her pulse right away to see if she was dead or alive.
Then he was, `Oh my god, what am I gonna tell my kids? What am
I gonna tell my kids?"' Carcerano said.
She also described in the letter one time she believed he would kill
her: "He pulled out his knife that he kept around his leg and
brought it to my neck."
Pelkie said it remains unclear if that letter ever came to the office.
He said it was not in the files Glasgow read when he began
reinvestigating Savio's drowning.
But many allegations in the letter are consistent with those Savio
made in an order of protection filed against Drew Peterson in 2002,
as well as accounts given by her family members.
"I've seen her slap him in the face right in front of me, seen her spit
in his face and chasing him around with an extension cord, hitting
him with it," Carcerano said.
"That's the first I've heard of that," Morelli said. "That's crazy. ...
(Peterson) was a very pleasant, personable fellow. Other than that,
I don't know."
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She said Peterson would hit her but not hard enough to go to the
hospital, and not often enough for her to expect it. It made it
worse, she said, that she never knew it was coming. "It was mind
games; it was head games," she said.
Peterson, who did not return phone calls Thursday, has denied
being abusive to Savio or Stacy Peterson.
"He has the experience, the knowledge, the means, and the mind
to do that," she said, her voice trailing off. "That's all I've thought
"The thing with Drew Peterson, and I'm sure if [Savio and Stacy
Peterson] were here to comment they would say the same thing,
when it was good, it was wonderful, it was great," Connolly said.
"But when it was bad, it was really bad."
She met Peterson in a Bolingbrook bar in the early 1980s. She was
there with her friends to see a favorite band.
Connolly said she also was well off when she met Peterson. She had
a steady job at a bank and drove a new car. But she thought it was
romantic that he wanted to save her.
"I believe that man had a disease to his ego. He's a legend in his
own mind," she said.
The couple's honeymoon ended about two years after they were
married. He worked with the Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad as
an undercover narcotics officer. He was a talented officer, she said,
and his success poisoned his outlook.
"He really led a double life. But what fed his ego was his line of
work, how he could deceive people," she said. "When he'd come
home, he'd be the exact opposite. He could do it and he could do it
with no problems."
His zeal for his job, though, led to a brief downfall. According to
court documents, Peterson was fired in 1985 after the Bolingbrook
Fire and Police Commission found him guilty of official misconduct,
disobedience, failure to report a bribe and self-assigned police
action. At the time, he was working on a case against a reputed
drug dealer.
"We had bugs in our house. He put a microphone in our kitchen and
taped our conversations. He was cheating so much he wanted to
make sure I wasn't," she said. "His whole thing with us is that, 'I
need to know my family is safe at home and you're not going to be
doing anything you shouldn't be doing' -- and that enabled him to
do whatever he wanted."
When tensions would boil over, the police came to the house a few
times, she said, but added, "the police were our friends," and no
reports were filed.
Finally, about 1992, she had enough. By this time, he was already
having an affair with Savio, she said, and it was easy for them to
divorce. She called it amicable.
"We had such a great life and he blew it. It wasn't good enough for
him. He had four great wives who did everything for him. And it
was never enough for Drew Peterson."
"While the trustees ... are sensitive to the intense scrutiny placed
on Sgt. Peterson and, unfortunately, the Village of Bolingbrook, the
Board is required to grant Sgt. Peterson's benefits without delay, as
to do otherwise would expose the trustees to liability for breach of
their fiduciary duties ...," the release stated.
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11-17-2007 11:26 AM
"I miss Stacy, and I'm not giving up," said the missing woman's
younger sister Cassandra Cales, choking back tears.
Savio was found dead in 2004 in a bathtub in her home, just a few
minutes' walk from the house Drew Peterson shared with Stacy.
Dr. Michael Baden, a former New York City chief medical examiner,
said he analyzed Savio's remains Friday at the request of her
relatives. He concluded that she died after a struggle and that her
body was placed in the tub.
Peterson, 53, who resigned Monday, has not been named a suspect
in Savio's death. He has denied any involvement in either case and
said he believes his wife left him for another man and is alive.
After the vigil, Drew Peterson -- who has two children, ages 2 and
4, with Stacy Peterson and two teenage sons from his marriage to
Savio -- returned home and briefly looked over each of the signs on
his porch.
"They're at that age where people like to tease and talk to them,"
Peterson said.
Henry Savio, Kathleen's brother, said at the vigil that when his
sister died, Bolingbrook police refused to accept that one of their
fellow officers could have been responsible. But Stacy Peterson's
disappearance changed that, he said.
Pelkie said it remains unclear whether that letter ever was sent to
the office.
"That's the first I've heard of that," Morelli said. "That's crazy. ...
(Peterson) was a very pleasant, personable fellow. Other than that,
I don't know."
The family is "united in their love and search for justice" for Savio,
he said.
Stacy Peterson, shown here with her husband, was last seen
October 28. She is his fourth wife.
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11-18-2007 07:47 AM
Savio's body was exhumed last week at the request of Will County
State's Attorney James Glasgow, who has said that he thinks her
death was a homicide staged to look like an accident.
The purplish bruises on Savio's body indicated she got them shortly
before she died, Baden said.
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Baden said Fox News paid for his flight to Chicago so he could
examine the remains, with the family's consent.
Pelkie said it remains unclear if that letter ever came to the office.
"That's the first I've heard of that," Morelli said. "That's crazy. ...
[Peterson] was a very pleasant, personable fellow. Other than that,
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two who has been missing since Oct. 28. Police say her 53-year-old
husband is a suspect in her disappearance, and authorities have
called the case a possible homicide.
"The results of Dr. Baden's autopsy on Ms. Savio do not surprise us,
not because we believe they are accurate, but only because Dr.
Baden had indicated over a week before he had performed the
autopsy that he believed Kathleen's death was not an accident,"
lawyer Joel Brodsky said in a statement Sunday.
Drew Peterson, who resigned last week from the Bolingbrook police
force, has not been called a suspect in the death of Savio, from
whom he was divorced. He has denied any involvement in either
case and said he believes his wife left him for another man and is
alive.
He also defended his conclusion from the autopsy, saying it was not
influenced by his previous opinion or his position as a paid
commentator on Fox News.
"I had a pre-existing opinion before I did the exhumation. I did. But
that's why exhumations are done, to make sure the pre-existing
Speaking publicly for the first time, Peterson's first wife, Carol
Brown, told the Chicago Tribune for a story published Saturday
night that he never threatened or abused her during their six-year
marriage. But she said he could be controlling, and while she was
pregnant, she found out he had been cheating on her.
"I thought he always had respect for me, but I guess when you
stray in a relationship, you don't have respect for the person that
you were doing that to," she said.
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Drew Peterson received the letter Wednesday, and didn't open it until
Thursday, the attorney said. Peterson, who has been named a suspect
by authorities investigating his 23-year-old wife's disappearance,
immediately called the Illinois State Police and his attorneys to notify
The Chicago attorney said Peterson hopes the letter, which describes a
sighting of a possibly pregnant Stacy Peterson in Peoria, will lead
authorities to his wife.
Bosco said the family has received "tons of letters," signed and
unsigned, from psychics and others claiming to know Stacy Peterson's
whereabouts.
"It doesn't mean anything," Bosco said. "It's up to police what they do
with these tips."
Illinois State Police Captain Carl Dobrich told the Tribune 64 officers are
now assigned full-time to investigate the disappearance of Stacy
Peterson and the death of third wife Kathleen Savio.
Dobrich would not describe the alleged violations, but told the Tribune
they were serious enough to potentially trigger the loss of Drew
Peterson's $6,000 monthly pension. Under state law, a police officer's
pension may be denied or revoked only if the officer is convicted of a
job-related felony.
Peterson submitted his resignation last week, but Police Chief Ray
McGury refused to accept it, saying he wanted Peterson fired.
Bolingbrook's Police and Fire Commission later accepted Peterson's
resignation.
Tips are coming in from across the nation, and the cases are the
agency's top investigative priority, Dobrich said.
•A grand jury convened for the investigations met for the first time
Wednesday and heard testimony from Scott Rossetto, 35, a friend of
Stacy Peterson.
Rossetto told reporters after his testimony that he and the now-missing
woman exchanged racy text messages that could have been
misinterpreted by her husband before she disappeared more than three
weeks ago.
Rossetto told reporters that he and Stacy were not having an affair. He
said they traded flirtatious text messages and e-mails.
"Some of the messages were quite perverted and flirty in nature, but
they were all meant in fun," Rossetto told The Chicago Sun-Times.
"(Was I) Interested in dating? No. Flirting? Yes."
Stacy Peterson wasn't alone and might have been trying to be noticed,
the letter said. A man appeared to be with her. She was not shopping,
but was standing in the dairy section looking at the letter writer.
She appeared to have "a little pudge," the letter writer wrote, asking if
she was pregnant.
Brodsky declined to release the letter itself. "We don't want anything to
impede the investigation" he told The Associated Press
•People magazine has hit the news stands with Drew Peterson on the
cover.
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AVENGER I guess he's not man enough to do dishes himself? The penalty for an
Senior Member unclean home is death? I think this moron ought to keep his trap shut
before he convicts himself with is own Neanderthal comments. What a
twisted mama's boy.
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Registered: Jul 2003 A neighbor of Drew Peterson told police he spotted the former
Location: Chicago, Illinois Bolingbrook police sergeant and a second man loading a large blue
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was last seen alive, sources said.
The identity of the second man isn't known, a pair of police sources
said. "That's who we're looking for," one of the sources said.
Drew Peterson, 53, and his attorney did not return calls seeking
comment Thursday. Peterson has repeatedly insisted that his wife
left him, possibly for another man.
In recent weeks, Drew Peterson, his brother, Paul Peterson, and his
son, Oak Brook Police Officer Steve Peterson, have been called to
testify before a grand jury. Others who have testified include a
Shorewood man who traded sexually explicit e-mails and text
messages with Stacy Peterson in the weeks before she vanished.
Master Sgt. Luis Gutierrez of the State Police would not comment on
the investigation or Shorewood searches. State Police have
canvassed the Shorewood area, showing residents photos of the
Denali and a second car owned by Drew and Stacy Peterson to see if
anyone had seen the vehicles recently.
Drew Peterson didn't open the letter until Thursday, when it was
turned over to State Police.
Bosco also questioned why the tipster would not sign the letter and
noted a telephone tipline established after Stacy Peterson's
disappearance had yielded at least one purported sighting of Stacy
in Florida. "She's traveling an awful lot, isn't she?" Bosco said.
Family members will remain skeptical of any tips until police can
confirm them. "We're waiting for the police to tell us they've found
her," Bosco said.
Bolingbrook Police Chief Ray McGury, who has said the retired
sergeant "brought shame on the department," has contacted the
Will County state's attorney's office to pursue felony official
misconduct charges against Peterson, said Lt. Ken Teppel, the
department's spokesman.
State Police also are probing the mysterious March 2004 death of
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"I believe the state's attorney and the cops will be under scrutiny if they
don't arrest me, so I'm prepared for it," the self-proclaimed "media
sensation" said in the story.
"That was a reality," he told People. "If she was PMSing, hungry or
tired, her emotions were high."
While admitting "I'm not a perfect man by any means," Peterson said
media coverage of the case has been distorted.
Police are also investigating the death of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen
Savio, whose drowning in 2004 is now considered by some officials to
have been a homicide.
"You're only seeing my dirty laundry. You don't see all the positive
things I've done," he said, professing to be overwhelmed by the public
and media interest in the fates of his two most recent wives.
"I'm sure Stacy looks like a lot of people," family spokeswoman Pam
Bosco said. "We want Stacy to come home. But this is anonymous, and
we won't believe it until we get a call from police with Stacy in hand."
Since Stacy was last seen dressed in a red jogging suit on the morning
of October 28, her case has made national news.
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11-24-2007 09:25 AM
The FBI will join the search for the wife of a former suburban police
sergeant, whom authorities have called a suspect in her disappearance
nearly a month ago, a spokesman for the federal agency said Saturday.
The FBI's involvement comes at the request of the Illinois State Police,
which is leading the investigation into the disappearance of Stacy
Peterson, 23, from the couple's home.
The case has led prosecutors to re-examine the 2004 death of Drew
Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio. Authorities have said her death
may have been a homicide staged to look like an accidental drowning.
Savio's body was exhumed for a new autopsy. The state's attorney's
office said it could be a couple weeks before investigators have results
from tests on her remains.
Peterson, 53, who has not been called a suspect in Savio's case, has
denied any wrongdoing in her death and has proclaimed his innocence
in Stacy Peterson's disappearance.
He has said he believed his 23-year-old wife left him for another man.
FBI spokesman Ross Rice said the agency has no reason to believe
federal laws were broken, which would give it jurisdiction. But it has
agreed to help in the case, he said.
Charles Pelkie, a spokesman for the Will County state's attorney, said
FBI investigators will be briefed Monday by the state police. The FBI's
involvement will add manpower to the investigation and provide
technical assistance during water searches, he said.
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11-25-2007 10:43 AM
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11-25-2007 01:31 PM
GC Marciano Pastor says Stacy Peterson told him she feared her husband
Copwatcher Extraordinaire before disappearance
Associated Press
November 29, 2007
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=5801939
Asked whether Stacy Peterson was afraid her husband would kill
her, Daniels would only say she feared "bodily harm." Authorities
say Drew Peterson is a suspect in his fourth wife's disappearance
and have called her case a possible homicide.
The Illinois State Police did not return messages left late Thursday.
Daniels would not identify the clergy member who met with Stacy
Peterson or say where the meeting took place, other than it was not
at the church. Daniels also would not reveal specific details of the
conversation, but he said church officials only learned of it on
Thursday.
Church officials have not made any decision on whether they need
to review how the church handled the situation, Daniels said.
Nothing ever resulted from the call, but Bosco said it indicated to
her that Stacy -- who had been talking of marital problems for
several months -- grew especially concerned in August.
drowning.
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11-30-2007 02:50 AM
By Don Babwin
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
12/02/2007
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: CALIFORNIA Despite 18 domestic disturbances in a previous marriage, the missing
Posts: 1072 woman's husband — then a police sergeant — wasn't charged.
The way Bolingbrook police dealt with Peterson "makes it kind of hard to
trust cops," said Pablo Delira, 59, a construction worker. He said he had
no doubt he would have been led away in handcuffs if police had been
Peterson, 53, was a police sergeant and 29-year veteran of the force,
resigning earlier this month after he came under suspicion in his current
wife's disappearance in October.
Police Lt. Ken Teppel said that in all 18 instances, police had conducted
a thorough investigation. He said a department inquiry had found no
indication that officers had done anything wrong or violated procedure.
But Teppel acknowledged that the case had damaged the department's
reputation.
"There is a distrust ... that this is going to be covered up," he said. "It's
so hard to get over that."
Savio was found dead in her bathtub in 2004, and a coroner's jury ruled
it an accidental drowning. But since Stacy Peterson's disappearance,
investigators have re-examined Savio's death and exhumed her body,
and said they now believed it was a homicide made to look like an
accident.
Drew Peterson has not been named a suspect in Savio's death. But
authorities said he was suspected in Stacy Peterson's disappearance.
Drew Peterson has denied any wrongdoing in either case and said he
believed his current wife left him for another man and was still alive.
Savio and Stacy Peterson were Peterson's third and fourth wives,
respectively. He and wives No. 1 and 2 divorced.
Vicki Connolly, Peterson's second wife, has said that during their
marriage, Peterson became increasingly controlling and had hit her and
told her he could kill her and make it look like an accident.
Connolly said police sometimes came to the house when the couple
were having problems, but she said that the officers were friends of
theirs and that no reports ever were filed.
Even so, Paul Long, 29, a flight dispatcher who has lived in Bolingbrook
for two years, said only one thing would restore residents' faith in
police: an arrest and conviction.
"I haven't lost one iota of trust in the police department," said Stephen
DeFreeuw, a 16-year resident. "One rogue cop."
Teppel said Police Chief Ray McGrury had made it clear: "There are no
favorites."
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11-30-2007 05:30 PM
GC Marciano Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
quote:
Somebody tell me with a straight face that if Drew Peterson was not
a cop he would not have been arrested and charged already.
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11-30-2007 05:53 PM
GC Marciano Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
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quote:
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11-30-2007 05:58 PM
GC Marciano http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/02/missing.wife/index.html?
Copwatcher Extraordinaire iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCText
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/02/mi...view#cnnSTCText
"Upon reaching the location, the men would regain possession of the
package and continue transporting it to a location not accessible by
semi-trailers," the report stated.
The report did not say if the truck drivers agreed to transport the
package.
Drew and Stacy Peterson have been married four years and have
two children. Drew has other children from a previous marriage.
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12-03-2007 01:05 AM
liberranter Re: Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
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12-03-2007 12:40 PM
GC Marciano Re: Re: Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
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12-03-2007 06:02 PM
Navigatr1 Log reveals troubled relationship between police officer's 3rd, 4th wives
Extended Sabatical
A former Bolingbrook police officer's third and fourth wives had a history
of animosity, including an incident where one allegedly punched the
other in the face, according to a police call log released Friday.
Police responded to 19 calls for help in less than two years involving
fellow officer Drew Peterson, Savio, his ex-wife who was found dead in
2004, and Stacy Peterson, his current wife who is missing and feared
slain.
The calls show the three were embroiled in a bitter custody battle. No
charges were ever brought against Drew Peterson, but he twice
persuaded prosecutors to charge Savio with domestic battery. She was
acquitted both times.
Savio called police in December 2002 to notify them she had sent Stacy
Peterson a certified letter advising that she could be arrested for
trespassing. Savio also claimed in September 2003 that Stacy Peterson
had called her "several derogatory names" while Drew Peterson dropped
off the children.
Peterson, 53, was a police sergeant and 29-year veteran of the force.
He resigned earlier this month after he came under suspicion in his
current wife's disappearance in October.
Savio claimed in July 2002 that Drew Peterson broke into the house and
held her against her will, the call log shows. She did not want to file a
complaint but the report was forwarded to state's attorney for review.
Bolingbrook Police Lt. Ken Teppel has said that in all the calls, police
conducted a thorough investigation. A department inquiry found no
indication officers did anything wrong or violated procedure, he said.
Volunteers say they will resume the search for Stacy Peterson Saturday,
and it will become a combined search for Peterson and Lisa Stebic, who
disappeared from her nearby Plainfield in April.
Log summary
May 3, 2002: Domestic Trouble -- Drew took the vehicle that Kathleen
was driving (both were registered owners and still married). Vehicle was
returned by Drew at 392 Pheasant Chase.
May 26, 2002: Battery -- Kathleen punched Stacy in the face because
she was in the car when Drew was attempting to drop the kids off.
Kathleen was arrested. Independent witnesses. Drew kept children.
Kathleen charged and record was expunged by court order.
May 26, 2002: Domestic Trouble -- Kathleen complaining that she had
sole custody of children. No such specification in court order. Drew kept
children.
Dec. 20, 2002: Notification -- Kathleen called advising she sent Stacy a
certified letter advising that she will be arrested for trespass for future
violations. Logged for documentation.
Jan. 2, 2003: Notification -- Kathleen called stating that the kids had a
late doctor's appointment and that she would not make the scheduled
drop off time to Drew. Logged for documentation.
Feb. 18, 2003: Citizen Assist -- Drew wanted to pick up kids. Kathleen
stated they were sick and she was not turning them over. Logged for
documentation.
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12-04-2007 09:36 AM
Registered: Jul 2003 Drew Peterson is not only a suspect in his fourth wife's
Location: Chicago, Illinois disappearance and his third wife's death, the former police officer is
Posts: 9967
now under investigation for police misconduct, ABC News has
learned.
Call to Truckers
He has not been charged with any crime, but his house has been
searched twice, cars confiscated and he has been named a suspect
by investigators. His attorney insists an arrest is not imminent and
has asked authorities to return his guns.
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12-06-2007 08:27 PM
By SCOTT MICHELS
Dec. 6, 2007
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3964730&page=1
Police searching for Stacy Peterson appear have focused on the GPS
Registered: Jul 2003 navigation system of her husband's sport utility vehicle, according to
Location: Chicago, Illinois a search warrant obtained by ABC News.
Posts: 9967
Illinois State Police served a search warrant Tuesday night indicating
that they planned to examine two of Drew Peterson's vehicles and
seize physical evidence, including items containing blood, hair,
fingernails, bodily fluids or "other biological material which may be
evidence of the offense of first degree murder."
The warrant also said the police were looking for any indication that
Peterson, a former suburban Chicago police officer, may have
moved a plastic barrel or storage container in the SUV.
Stacy Peterson, 23, was last seen Oct. 28. Authorities have called
the case a potential homicide, naming her 53-year-old husband as a
suspect. A relative of Peterson's reportedly helped him move a
heavy container out of his home and put it the sport utility vehicle
the day his wife vanished.
The latest warrant, first reported by the Chicago Tribune, says that
the police intend to search Peterson's GPS system, which "contains
data in a format that is not easily obtained or seized."
It says that police were looking for plastic shavings, blue plastic,
lead weights and other objects with scuff marks, circular
impressions or any other indication that Peterson had a "plastic or
barrel-like object or large storage container" in the SUV.
It also says police are looking at anything that could help them place
Peterson's car at a specific location, such as dirt, gravel and soil.
Cops are also looking for guns, ammunition, knives, ropes, carpet,
or anything else that may have been used as a "weapon or
restraint."
The warrant seeks objects that "have any of the following on them:
blood, hairs, fingernails, bodily fluids, body tissue, DNA, fingerprints,
fingernail scrapings, palm prints, saliva, urine, feces, or other
biological material which may be evidence of the offense of First
Degree Murder."
Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, did not immediately return a call for
comment. He told the Chicago Tribune, which first reported on the
latest search warrant, that the recent warrant only corrected a
mistake in an earlier search warrant.
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12-06-2007 08:30 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3937480
"He was real frantic. I could tell he'd been drinking a little," said
Martineck, who said he has known Morphey for 19 years. "He put his
hands on my shoulders and says, 'You can't tell no one. I know she
was in there.'"
The calls show the three were embroiled in a bitter custody battle.
No charges were ever brought against Drew Peterson, but he twice
persuaded prosecutors to charge Savio with domestic battery. She
was acquitted both times.
Savio was acquitted of charges that she punched the other woman
in the face in May 2002 because she was in the car during a child
custody exchange.
Volunteers said they will resume the search for Stacy Peterson on
Saturday, and it will become a combined search for Peterson and
Lisa Stebic, who disappeared from nearby Plainfield in April.
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12-06-2007 08:34 PM
Mack quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
This worrisome. I wonder how long it will be before GPS systems, like
cellphones, are required to have tracking built in.
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Originally posted by Mack
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Chicago attorney Joel Brodsky has the hottest case in the country.
Among other incidents, they found several police reports over the
years, including three domestic calls, one involving a SWAT team
responding to Brodsky's Wilmette home.
The Brodskys admit they were arguing but say the matter was the
result of miscommunication and that police portrayed it inaccurately.
"I'm in my living room watching TV. Next thing I know, I'm getting
a call from a hostage negotiator," Brodsky said.
Contributing: AP
Joel Brodsky says he has gotten hate mail and been besieged
by interview requests since becoming Drew Peterson’s
attorney.
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12-08-2007 10:25 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/1...ref=mpstoryview
Savio's body was found in her bathtub in 2004 and her death
initially was ruled an accidental drowning. After Stacy Peterson
disappeared in October, prosecutors opened another
investigation into the Savio case, and said it appears her death
was a homicide staged to look like an accident. Drew Peterson
has not been named a suspect in her death.
"But it was very clear that this was not just speculation," he
said. "She was not jumping to conclusions."
At the time he spoke to the AP, Daniels would not identify the
clergy member who met with Stacy Peterson or say where the
meeting took place.
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12-11-2007 07:16 PM
"I hope this will bring some money in,'' Peterson's attorney, Joel
Brodsky, told ABC News' Law & Justice Unit. "Drew is not a rich
man and this case will be expensive."
"I can't remember it ever being done before,'' said veteran defense
attorney Mickey Sherman, who represented Michael Skakel, a
nephew of Ethel Kennedy, in the sensational Greenwich, Conn., trail
for the murder of Martha Moxley.
"But I can't think of any place it's more appropriate than here.
We're doing 'he's-not-a-suspect-he's-a-person-of-interest' thing, I
know, but clearly, this guy is going to be charged at some point
soon, and if he's not, he's still going to need a boatload of money
for his lawyers," Sherman said.
The site is an emotional plea for financial support from a man who
feels he's been victimized by police pressure and a media witch
hunt.
Suspicion has swirled around Drew Peterson since virtually the start
of the investigation.
The latest warrant, obtained last week by ABC News, said that the
police intend to search Peterson's GPS system, which "contains data
in a format that is not easily obtained or seized."
It says that police were looking for plastic shavings, blue plastic,
lead weights and other objects with scuff marks, circular
impressions or any other indication that Peterson had a "plastic or
barrel-like object or large storage container" in the SUV.
It also says police are looking at anything that could help them
place Peterson's car at a specific location, such as dirt, gravel and
soil. Cops are also looking for guns, ammunition, knives, ropes,
carpet, or anything else that may have been used as a "weapon or
restraint."
The warrant seeks objects that "have any of the following on them:
blood, hairs, fingernails, bodily fluids, body tissue, DNA,
fingerprints, fingernail scrapings, palm prints, saliva, urine, feces or
The site bills itself as a the Official Drew Peterson Defense Fund --
People For Justice.
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12-11-2007 10:29 PM
TheJackel Look like they have suspended the website... I tried to hit it and it
DOUGHNUT MAKER - cream comes up as suspended.
with that sir?
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Navigatr1 Ex-Cop Drew Peterson Launches Web Site for Defense Fund After Wife
Extended Sabatical Disappears
By Melissa Underwood
"For the cost of a few cups of your morning coffee, you can help to
ensure that Drew can afford to support his ongoing legal defense,
find his missing wife and divert any remaining funds into a trust for
his children," the Web site says.
But Stacy Peterson's family believes the site is just a ploy to get
money, not to help find the mother of two.
"We are not asking you to decide whether or not Drew Peterson is
guilty, but in the United States of America, one should be able to
defend one's self without the losing everything (sic)," according to
the site.
Any money collected for Drew Peterson's defense fund will go first
to legal fees and hiring a private investigator to find Stacy Peterson,
said Joel Brodsky, Drew Peterson's attorney. Any remaining funds
will go to a trust fund for the Petersons' children.
He said Drew Peterson needs help to fund his defense against the
hundreds of investigators working the case against him.
The Web site says that Drew and his four children, two of whom are
from a previous marriage, need help.
Bosco said she did not know what specific clues led officials to
search the area. There is a lot of debris in the water, and search
teams are awaiting sonar equipment for a more extensive search.
AP
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12-11-2007 11:07 PM
liberranter That REALLY doesn't bode well for Ol' "Disappear'em" Drew.
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12-12-2007 01:23 AM
Registered: Feb 2007 This scumbag is the one who has forced himself into the spotlight
Location: This is hell. via his own attention-grabbing antics. He has sensationalized this
Posts: 679 story with his egotistical blathering.
how this loser is suddenly all about his children. Hey, Drew, no
amount of money will buy your children a new mother, scumbag.
What happened to this idiot's Playgirl spread? A dose of reality as
he sat listening to the laughter from the other end of the line? The
only women who find this guy even remotely attractive are needy
women looking for a father figure or a meal ticket. That's why he
marries naive girls he met when they were seventeen.
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Speed, surprise and violence of action.
12-12-2007 10:45 AM
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12-12-2007 12:27 PM
GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Quoted from defenddrew.com
Drew and his children risk losing their life
savings, house, automobiles and may end up
impoverished, all by simply defending himself
against allegations.
Registered: Jul 2003 Notice that he never put up any websites begging to financially
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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defend and/or support the people he put in the same position
over the past 30 years, yet when he slaughters two innocent
young women he expects the same public that he spent 30+
years victimizing to come rushing to his aid by giving him their
hard-earned money.
Fuck you Drew. With any luck somebody will do to you what
you did to your two wives. Your kids (and the world) are better
off without you.
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12-12-2007 12:41 PM
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12-12-2007 03:59 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...hi_tab01_layout
"It's like they had this vigil for Stacy, and the next thing you
know there's a pinata with my face on it," he said. "All these
policemen who were my friends, and I would have jumped in
front of a bullet for, don't even talk to me."
"I've befriended him, he was just some street kid ... and all of a
sudden he was here -- my best friend," he said. "I went ahead
and let him watch the house when I couldn't be here, and then
he's changing sides."
"The first couple days after this happened, he kept saying, 'How
can we make money on this?'" he said.
Mims scoffed at the allegation. He said it was his cell phone bill
and big heart that motivated him to talk to the Enquirer. Mims
said he would pay his $480 phone bill, most of which came from
talking to reporters, then donate the proceeds to the Benefit for
Stacy Peterson charity, which will fund the ongoing search.
"I have not profited from this. This whole thing has cost me
money," he said.
He wouldn't say how much the Enquirer paid him. Mims also
declined to discuss the grand jury investigation.
"The 4th Amendment and the cases that interpret it say that in
order for a search and seizure to be valid, the premise to be
searched and the things to be seized have to be specified with
particularity, other than those things which are in plain view,
such as contraband," Kling said. "He may have a point that the
first search warrant is problematic because it didn't describe
that the cars were able to be seized."
"It's pretty clear that either somebody from the police has come
up with this wonderful hypothesis about how the car was used,
the body disposed of, or they have witnesses who are giving
them what they believe is credible information [and are] looking
for specific items," Kling said.
When Peterson was asked Thursday about going from cop doing
the investigating to being investigated, he said: "I gotta go
now. It's very ugly being on the other side."
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12-18-2007 07:20 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...w121807.article
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12-18-2007 07:22 PM
http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=184168
The Will County grand jury has been hearing what is meant to
be sealed testimony, but many details have appeared in media
reports, often attributed to unnamed sources.
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12-18-2007 07:27 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3992098&page=1
Brodsky, told ABC Chicago affiliate WLS that they had already
achieved their short-term goals from the site.
Brodsky told ABC News' Law & Justice Unit the cyberplea for
support was needed.
"Our legal system is built upon the fundamental truth that you
are innocent until proven guilty. The media has decided to
sensationalize this story, and the collateral damage is
neverending."
Savio's body was found in her bathtub in 2004, and her death
was initially ruled an accidental drowning. After Stacy Peterson
disappeared in October, prosecutors opened another
investigation into the Savio case, and said it appeared her death
was a homicide, staged to look like an accident.
The latest warrant, obtained last week by ABC News, said that
police intend to search Peterson's GPS system, which "contains
data in a format that is not easily obtained or seized."
It also said that police were looking for plastic shavings, blue
plastic, lead weights, and other objects with scuff marks,
circular impressions, or any other indication that Peterson had a
"plastic or barrel-like object, or large storage container" in the
SUV.
The site billed itself as the Official Drew Peterson Defense Fund
— People For Justice.
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12-18-2007 07:31 PM
http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/...age/x1863117762
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12-18-2007 07:33 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316943,00.html
Savio’s death was ruled an accident, but her body was exhumed
after new questions surfaced during the investigation into Stacy
Peterson’s disappearance.
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12-18-2007 07:36 PM
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12-18-2007 08:24 PM
"They already disproved it, and I wasn't even working that night,"
he said.
"There was a sergeant who was present there," Prochut said. "But
they don't even really look alike."
Innocent beginning
The way Brownlee tells it, this tale of handbreak started innocently
enough with a Memorial Day cookout he held at his home.
"My next-door neighbor, he's really not a big fan of kids," Brownlee
An officer checked his identification and the police left after ordering
everyone to "get along," Brownlee said. But a half hour later, the
police returned, Brownlee said, and accused him of misrepresenting
his identity. They then took him into custody.
Alleged assault
On the way to the police station, Brownlee said the officer taunted
him with a racial epithet, telling him he didn't belong in Bolingbrook.
"He said when we get to the police station, he's going to kick my
(expletive)," Brownlee said.
Alarmed, Brownlee tried to use his cell phone to call one of his two
brothers who work as officers with the Chicago Police Department.
The call went straight to voice mail, he said, but the cop driving the
car heard him and said, "I think this guy's recording me."
Brownlee said he was hauled out of the squad car by the handcuffs.
He was then taken to the station.
There, he said, police took away his pajama pants and shower
shoes, leaving him with nothing on but a tank top. He says police
later returned his pajama pants but ordered him to walk barefoot
out of his cell. When he demurred, he said, they set to beating him.
False claim?
"It was not Drew Peterson, and we have videotape evidence to back
this up," the commander said.
The lawsuit says Brownlee was charged with obstructing justice and
disorderly conduct and that the charges later were dropped.
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12-19-2007 09:30 AM
GC Marciano Since the media circus has dissipated around Drew Peterson's
Copwatcher Extraordinaire house, I stopped by today in an attempt to ask him a few
questions and give him a COPWATCH.com bumper sticker.
All the curtains were closed and nobody answered the door, but
it appeared somebody was home as I could hear a television on
and I saw the curtain move (window to the left of the door in
the photo below) as if somebody was peeking out as I rang the
door bell.
Registered: Jul 2003 When I saw the curtain move, I couldn't help but chuckle
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County SWAT team had finally arrived with an arrest warrant
for murder, or better yet - double murder.
I then left the area, returning about 25 minutes later. The note
and sticker had been removed from the van, but again nobody
answered the door in spite of my incessant knocking and
doorbell ringing.
Maybe I'll try again another day. Enjoy the bumper sticker,
Drew!
NAME:
Drew W. Peterson
DOB:
Jan. 05, 1954
DLN:
P362-1795-4005
SSN:
[REMOVED]
ADDRESS:
6 Pheasant Chase Court
Bolingbrook, IL 60490
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Mack Great effort, GC505! Being out of the spotlight for a while, Drew
Assistant Moderator was probably beginning to hope that no one cared - about his wife.
Nice of you to set the record straight.
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12-25-2007 11:46 PM
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GC505 good job! I am getting impatient waiting the day Drew
finally gets arrested! I hope they use his old cuffs on him.
Registered: Aug 2007 I still don't understand how this guy remained a cop. He's clearly a
Location: whack job. This guy had/has no respect for the mother(s) of his
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children. How did he treat the general public? I hope someone will
have the guts to come forward and spill the beans on Drew and his
"connections". It seems like everyone is afraid to speak up except
the neighbor...God Bless her!
How dare he ask for donations...Where's all the blood money from
Kathleen's "accident"~ahem.
I've been trying to find info. on Drewpy. Does anyone know if his
father was a cop? TIA for any info. you can provide.
I wonder if Drew will be joining this board now that he's got a
bumper sticker!
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12-30-2007 10:01 PM
"It is apparent that Stacy did not voluntarily cease all contact with
her children, family and friends," a statement said. It went on to
say "additional investigative resources ... have provided additional
investigative tracks that were not previously pursued."
Peterson, 53, said he stands by his belief that Stacy, 23, left for
another man.
"I think they are just trying to build a circumstantial case, but they
are not going to be able to," Brodsky said. "They have given up
trying to find her. ... There is no body to find."
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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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01-19-2008 07:19 PM
Puddles Drew and his Attorney must think the general public is stoooopid.
Junior Member How convenient that "Drew" finds this "racy message"....Didn't the
ISP grab all the phones, computers, etc? They don't find this
message but Drew does....yeah, right!
Registered: Aug 2007 Did this phone have caller ID? It could have also been a wrong
Location: number. Nice try but....I don't believe one word coming from Drew
Posts: 21 or his Lawyer.
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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by Puddles
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GC Marciano quote:
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I'd give anything to know that that picture isn't photoshopped!
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01-24-2008 04:53 PM
A Will County judge will hold closed-door meetings with state police
to review evidence in the investigation of Stacy Peterson's
disappearance before deciding whether to order them to return
vehicles, guns and other items seized from her husband.
Judge Daniel Rozak denied the motion Dec. 17 but said he would
periodically review his ruling. In the interim the case was
transferred to Schoenstedt.
Brodsky said the meetings were the "next logical step" in the effort
to get his client's property returned.
"I trust this judge is very competent and professional, and I trust
that he will ask the kinds of questions that I would ask," he said.
"It was just a comedy bit we were going to do," Peterson said. "I
guess they got such heat over it that they chickened out."
Peterson walked away from the live interview after Smith asked
about reports that Peterson had carried a blue barrel from his home
at the time of his wife's Oct. 28 disappearance.
"OK, well then, then I guess I gotta walk away," Peterson said.
"Have a good day, Mr. Shepard. It was nice talking to you."
mwalberg@tribune.com
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01-26-2008 01:07 AM
Navigatr1 Peterson cuts short interview when questioned about 'blue barrel
Extended Sabatical
Associated Press
3:26 PM CST, January 25, 2008
When Smith said he'd never agree to limit what he could ask about,
Peterson became perturbed.
"OK, I guess I got to walk away. Have a good day, Mr. Shepard," he
said before pulling the microphone off and walking back into his
house.
The interview came two days after Peterson and his attorney, Joel
Brodsky, called a Chicago radio station during the program of a
host who has been writing parody songs about the retired
Bolingbrook police sergeant.
Peterson also likened the last few months in which he's been the
target of an investigation to learning you have cancer. "You go to
bed with it on your mind, you wake up with it on your mind, just
looking for that miracle cure to make it all go away."
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01-26-2008 01:09 AM
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02-05-2008 05:30 PM
Navigatr1 There is another cop case in Georgia with some parallels to the
Extended Sabatical Drew Peterson case.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=21460
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02-06-2008 12:17 PM
The death of Kathleen Savio four years ago was initially ruled an
accident. She was found dead in her bathtub shortly before her
divorce with Drew Peterson was finalized.
Savio's body was exhumed late last year after he was named a
person of interest in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy. He
has said Stacy Peterson ran off with another man, but her relatives
deny any affair and say she was considering divorce.
Peterson, 54, has denied any involvement in either case and he has
not been charged with wrongdoing. He is a former sergeant in the
Bolingbrook, Ill., police department.
Peterson told the Joliet Herald-News that the ruling in Savio's death
shocked him. "You're kidding me. Unbelievable. That's hard to
believe," he told the newspaper.
allegedly knocked her down, ripped off a necklace and left marks on
her body. She wrote in the order that she feared Peterson could kill
her.
Doman declined to say who she thought was responsible for Savio's
death. She said she did not want to interfere with any current
investigations or leads that authorities may have.
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02-22-2008 01:48 PM
“You’re kidding me,” said the embattled ex-cop moments after the
results of the autopsy conducted on his third wife, Kathleen Savio,
were released.
“The thing is, do what you got to do,” he said defiantly. “You roll
the dice, I’ll roll the dice.”
2004 death
State police renewed their interest in Savio’s death when the next
wife — the now 24-year-old Stacy — vanished in October. State
police have labeled their investigation of the young woman’s
whereabouts a potential homicide.
Mixed reaction
“It’s something that should have been done the right way almost
four years ago,” Doman said. “It would have been done the right
way if people listened.” She felt if her aunt’s case was given its due
attention, Stacy might still be alive.
“It’s something that was right there in front of their faces,” Doman
said. “It’s happy yet sad — It pisses me off. Seriously. Stacy was 23
“It’s going to be a hell of a time for the state’s attorney’s office. You
have one pathologist contradicting the other. You have multiple
state agencies contradicting each other.”
“If they do arrest me, I think that will cause her to surface,” he
said. “At least I hope so.”
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02-22-2008 02:01 PM
Face it, asshole, the game is up. You might want to start
thinking about what you want for your last meal.
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02-22-2008 02:34 PM
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02-22-2008 09:30 PM
The investigators took the property -- including two cars, guns and
computers -- in November as they investigated the disappearance
of Peterson's wife, Stacy.
"He's happy that the judge ruled and he's going to get his property
back. He has car. They can have their computer back. And these
things really aren't evidence of anything and that's all from what
the judge said. It's not probable cause for the government to keep
this property," said Andrew Abood, Drew Peterson's attorney.
"We feel this was a reasonable order at this point and we don't
have a problem with it. The key thing that is important to
remember is that the judge did included in his order with regard to
the return of the weapons that Mr. Peterson be in possession of an
FOID card," said Charles Pelkie, Will Co. State's Attorney
spokesman.
Also Wednesday, ABC News has learned that a grand jury has
subpoenaed the two teenage sons of Drew Peterson. Their mother
was Peterson's third wife, the late Kathleen Savio.
Drew Peterson leaves his home, Nov 26, 2007 file photo
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03-03-2008 10:10 AM
A judge says Peterson, a suspect in the case, can pick up his SUV
and car tomorrow and that he'll get his computers and copies of
their hard drives in about two weeks.
Since she went missing, police have reopened the investigation into
the 2004 death of Kathleen Savio, another 1 of Peterson's wives.
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03-17-2008 07:21 PM
Albert and Betty Morphey, of Burr Ridge, would not discuss what, if
anything, they told the grand jury.
Peterson has not been charged with any crime and denies any
wrongdoing in either case. From the beginning, he has said Stacy
left him for another man.
His mother and stepfather said that they have not talked with
Peterson about the case and that they hope Stacy will return. But
while they were reluctant to comment on their grand jury
experience, they displayed some of the showmanship their son has
exhibited throughout the investigations.
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GC Marciano Re: Drew Peterson's mother, stepfather testify before grand jury
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03-22-2008 09:11 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,1363691.story
But Mims said police apparently missed at least one gun. The
night of a search in November, Mims said Peterson
showed him a folding gun that was strapped to his leg.
Mims, who later had a falling out with Peterson, said he alerted
police and media outlets about the weapon a few weeks ago.
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GC Marciano Richard Mims, former friend of Drew Peterson who has recently
Copwatcher Extraordinaire come to his senses and turned on the repeat murderer, is
pictured here in this November 2007 photo as he tapes the
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03-22-2008 09:32 AM
liberranter Re: Drew Peterson's mother, stepfather testify before grand jury
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quote:
Hey, Betty, it must suck to know deep down in your heart that
your baby boy is a violent, psychotic, misogynistic murderer.
Did you and his daddy raise him to be that way?
Quit enabling your son and tell him to face up to his crimes!
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03-22-2008 05:29 PM
It has been nearly five months since Stacy Peterson vanished from
their home. In that time, Peterson has been named a suspect in her
disappearance by authorities who also are trying to determine
whether he had a role in the 2004 death of his ex-wife, Kathleen
Savio.
One is inside his home, made up of the mundane and the challenge
of raising teenage boys, ages 13 and 15, a 3-year-old daughter and
a 4-year-old son.
Those two worlds – and what he knows is the real possibility that
police might lock him up at any time – go a long way in explaining
why Peterson, with his attorney’s blessing, allowed The Associated
Press into his home.
His image has taken a beating. From wisecracking about his wife’s
menstrual cycles to enthusiastically agreeing on a radio show to
take part in a “Win a Date With Drew” contest, he repeatedly has
come off as boorish and callous.
Peterson knows all this, though he blames the media for portraying
him as a “sinister character lurking around underneath rocks.” He
does, however, acknowledge that from the outside his behavior
might be seen as peculiar and his jokes inappropriate.
would help him, she said. “They keep trying to change the look that
fits,” she said. “Drew is a chameleon.”
For two hours at his home last week, Peterson was subdued. He’s
30 pounds lighter than he was when his wife disappeared, there are
bags under his eyes, and he appears pale, certainly nowhere as
robust as he was when reporters first started knocking on his door
last fall. When he speaks, there still are some jokes – he compared
the media attention to a colonoscopy – but he is careful.
“For some reason I just can’t bring myself to take stuff down,” he
said. “I can’t even bring myself to put her clothes away. They’re
hung up like they were the day she left.”
There is a bedroom next door with a car theme and across the hall,
plastic planets hang from the ceiling, a nod, Peterson said, to his 13-
year-old son’s one-time interest in planets.
“It’s very lonely without her,” he said. “She created a real nice
environment, home environment for the kids and I.”
“I’m very angry, very angry,” he said. He said he’s hired private
investigators to look for her, but he doesn’t elaborate.
Peterson would not talk in detail about the investigation into his
wife’s disappearance. He and his attorneys say that is off limits, so
there was no talk about the blue barrel that some have alleged
Peterson moved from his house about the time his wife
disappeared. There was no discussion of the grand jury
investigating Stacy Peterson’s disappearance and Savio’s death, a
grand jury that just this month heard from his mother and
stepfather.
He’s a celebrity now, he said – the same way Scott Peterson was
before his arrest in the death of his pregnant wife, Laci, and the
way people still wonder about O.J. Simpson.
“I’ll walk into a restaurant and you’ll hear this hum go through this
restaurant, ’There’s Drew Peterson, there’s Drew Peterson, there’s
Drew Peterson,”’ he said.
The neighbor, Sharon Bychowski, said she doesn’t believe the signs
hurt Peterson’s children because they don’t accuse him of anything.
“I’ve got to get away from this environment and the kids (have) got
And he waits.
“I’m sure when all this clears up I’ll get some apologies from some
people,” he said.
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03-25-2008 10:56 AM
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“I’ve got to get away from this environment
and the kids (have) got to get away from this
environment,” he said.
Nice try at acting like you care about other people, Drew. If you
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their mothers.
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03-25-2008 11:53 AM
"He's a little guy. He's 4, and he's surrounded by them. Kris (his
older half-brother) is yelling at him to get in the house."
"It was ridiculous," Bychowski said. "We took a picture of him and
his Auntie Cassandra.
The state police also are investigating the March 2004 apparent
bathtub drowning of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio.
"If they cornered the child, as Drew said, that would be (a felony
crime of) unlawful restraint," Brodsky said.
"I really fear for her mental stability," Brodsky said, saying the
people in Bychowski's driveway acted "almost like a modern-day
lynch mob."
"In the photo, he doesn't appear he's being held against his will,"
Teppel said. "They both have their arms around each other and
they're smiling."
Ribbon dispute
Bychowski said she and other volunteers put out new blue and pink
"It says he's not supporting both women," Bychowski said. "It
makes a big statement about what he thinks, and these are the
mothers of his children."
And above his house, Peterson said, he is concerned about his kids.
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04-08-2008 12:42 PM
"I can't, I can't," Piry said. "Hopefully I'm done with all that stuff. I
didn't think I was all that relevant."
Piry and Peterson were engaged for about four months in the early
1980s after having dated for about four months. Piry accused
Peterson of stalking her, pulling her over and writing tickets for
such frivolous offenses as having bald tires on her car after she
ended their engagement.
Peterson claims he is the one who halted their relationship and said
Piry is merely bitter over both his breaking up with her and then
resisting her later attempts to seduce him.
"Everything she's said has been twisted and turned," Peterson said.
Connolly and Peterson married in 1982 after he and Piry split up.
They stayed together for 10 years, during which time Connolly
reportedly said she suffered physical abuse and threats from
Peterson. She also reportedly tolerated Peterson's extramarital
affairs, but said they divorced after he took up with third wife Savio.
Over the course of the last five months, numerous men and women
from Peterson's life, ranging from neighbors to former lovers, have
appeared before the grand jury.
"We should have had a reunion," Peterson said. "We should have
just had a party and done it all at once."
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Glenn Selig says the charge involves a gun seized after his
fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared in October. He says
police claim the gun was too short under Illinois law.
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Location: Chicago, Illinois Peterson has been fighting a ruling that he cannot have his
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Stacy Peterson has not been seen since Oct. 28, 2007. Illinois
State Police said several months ago they suspect she is dead
and have called Drew Peterson a suspect in her disappearance.
But Peterson has long contended his wife left him for another
man. His attorney has said perhaps Stacy Peterson just did not
want to be tied down to an older man and four children
anymore.
Drew Peterson has not been charged with any crime in either
case.
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05-21-2008 03:39 PM
GC Marciano An ABC News reporter that I spoke with up the road from Drew
Copwatcher Extraordinaire Peterson's home says he was told that the firearm in question is
an AR-15 semiautomatic assault rifle that had been retrofitted
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GC Marciano This is a photo of the actual weapon that Drew Peterson has
Copwatcher Extraordinaire been charged with illegally possessing; a Colt Sporter
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05-21-2008 05:27 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...terson.article#
Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson, who is a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth
Location: Chicago, Illinois wife Stacy, turned himself in at the Bolingbrook Police station
Posts: 9967 today after he was picked up at home by his attorney, Joel
Brodsky, around 12:35 p.m.
Asked his thoughts on the arrest, Peterson smiled and said, "It's
the usual."
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Overview
Registered: Jul 2003 Illinois Authorities Charge Drew Peterson
Location:
Posts: 31403 A Will County, Ill. judge issued an arrest warrant for Drew Peterson
on Wednesday, May 21, 2008.
Peterson, who cops have fingered as the prime suspect in his wife
Stacy's disappearance, was wanted for a weapons charge; police
say the charge stems from the seizure of his guns following the
disappearance of his wife Stacy Peterson.
The warrant was issued after one of the Peterson guns was found to
be allegedly illegally sawed-off. The shortened barrel violates
Illinois law, police say.
Selig says the rifle, which is 3/8" shy of the legal barrel length of
16", was seized when Peterson was still employed as a police
officer. Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, is expected to argue that
because of that, Drew Peterson was exempt from Illinois state law
restrictions.
The Will County State's Attorney's Office says the warrant carries a
$75,000 bond. If convicted, Peterson could face a sentence of up to
five years in state prison.
Wanted For
Information valid as of last update.
Unlawful Use Of A Weapon, Bolingbrook, IL; May 21, 2008
Profile
Sex Male
Race White
Age Now 54
Height 5'10"
Weight 185 lbs.
# Hair (Color, Description, Facial Hair) Gray / White
# Peterson's hair is a grayed brown.
# Peterson typically has a mustache.
# Eyes (Color and Correction) Blue
Possible Location
Other Possible Locations
Bolingbrook, IL
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05-21-2008 06:08 PM
http://www.wqad.com/global/story.asp?s=8360761
Registered: Jul 2003 Earlier today Peterson turned himself in to authorities after he
Location: Chicago, Illinois was charged with unlawful use of a weapon. The felony charge
Posts: 9967 is related to the length of the gun barrel. Authorities say the
barrel is less than 16 inches long -- a violation of state law.
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05-21-2008 07:05 PM
Navigatr1 Attorney for Drew Peterson Releases Statement on Arrest Warrant for
Extended Sabatical Weapons Charge
Under Illinois state law, police officers are exempt from barrel
length requirements for duty weapons. And this particular gun was
registered as one of Drew's SWAT duty weapons.
Even if the barrel of the gun is too short under Illinois state law for
a civilian to possess, the rifle was seized while Drew was still an
officer and has not been returned to him so he would've had no
opportunity to relinquish the weapon.
I don't believe that state police ever informed prosecutors of all the
relevant information. Had they done so, I don't think the prosecutor
would ever have approved the charges."
Media Contact:
Joel A. Brodsky, Drew Peterson's Attorney Phone: (312) 701-3000
or
Glenn Selig, ThePublicityAgency.com, glenn (at) thepublicityagency.
com, (813) 948-7767
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05-22-2008 08:08 AM
It was the latest development in the search for Stacy Peterson, 24,
a young mother of two and Peterson's fourth wife. She disappeared
Oct. 28, and police, family and friends have been searching for her
ever since.
By law, the gun should be 16 inches long. The warrant alleges that
it is three-eighths of an inch short of the legal length for a rifle,
Brodsky explained.
The charge won't stand up in court, Brodsky said. When the gun
was seized last year, Peterson still was a police officer.
"It's one of his duty weapons," the lawyer said, standing in the
police parking lot. "He was on the SWAT team for over 10 years."
Plenty of attention
The warrant is no big deal, Brodsky said. It's simply another ploy to
keep the guns from being returned to their rightful owner. He
predicted that the felony ultimately would be dismissed.
"I believe the Will County state's attorney was not given full and
accurate information when they brought this charge," Brodsky said.
"State police want neither Drew nor his family to get these guns
back."
"Maybe in their minds, it's a tactic," Brodsky said. "To try and make
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05-22-2008 08:16 AM
But his arrest comes months after the Nov. 1 police search that
resulted in 11 guns -- including the assault rifle --being removed
from his Bolingbrook home. The arrest came a day before a court
hearing that could result in a Will County judge ordering police to
release the weapons.
The gun charge means that even if state police are ordered to
release the weapons, the AR-15 won't be turned over to Peterson's
son, Stephen, a suburban police officer. Drew Peterson can't
reclaim the guns himself because his firearm owners identification
card has been revoked by state officials.
In questioning the charge, Brodsky said the rifle's barrel was only
three-eighths of an inch short of the state requirement -- and that
Peterson was allowed to own the weapon because he used it while
serving on the Bolingbrook Police Department SWAT team.
"I hope the charges will be dropped,'' Brodsky said, adding: "It
seems to me this was done very quickly at the last minute.''
One law enforcement source, however, said the gun's barrel was
only about 11 inches long -- well short of the state limit. Another
source, meanwhile, contended Peterson couldn't legally possess the
Boisterous Peterson
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05-22-2008 08:19 AM
On the eve of learning whether he can give his 11 guns to his son,
the long arm of the law came down on Drew Peterson because one
of his weapons was too short.
"They may believe it's a tactic to shake him up, but it's certainly not
going to work," he said. "Drew was joking with police officers when
he was taken into custody."
"The timing is very suspicious that they would wait until the day
before we were supposed to get the court order that the guns be
returned to his son," he said. "I think the Illinois State Police are
fixated on these guns. . . . I don't understand it. It's not logical."
"We feel the case is progressing well," Sgt. Thomas Burek said in
front of the courthouse. "An arrest will be made."
"The weapon was illegal, and it was privately owned," said Charles
Pelkie, spokesman for the state's attorney's office. "Up to this point,
it's been in the possession of the Illinois State Police so it wasn't
really an issue. But we can't allow an illegal weapon to go back out
on the street. At this point, it was appropriate to file the charge."
Pelkie said the rifle barrel was slightly more than 11 inches long—
almost five inches shorter than required by law. He said that even
with a removable flash suppressor attached to the end—which
legally cannot be considered part of the barrel—the gun was still too
short.
Bolingbrook police spokesman Lt. Ken Teppel said the weapon was
not issued by the department, and any personal weapons owned by
Peterson must be lawful. Teppel said, "If it's a personal weapon, he
is still bound by state law, federal law."
"We don't want to see anything that's not being done according to
the law, especially if these guns are going to be returned to his
family members," Bosco said.
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eslife@tribune.com
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05-22-2008 08:22 AM
His arrest comes months after the Nov. 1, 2007, police search that
resulted in 11 guns -- including the assault rifle -- being removed
from his Bolingbrook home. And it came a day before a hearing that
could result in a judge ordering police to release the weapons.
The gun charge means that even if State Police are ordered to
release the weapons, the AR-15 won't be turned over to Peterson's
son, Stephen, who is a suburban police officer. Drew Peterson can't
reclaim the guns himself because his firearm owner's identification
Questioning the charge, Brodsky claimed the rifle's barrel was only
three-eighths of an inch short of the limit -- and that Peterson was
allowed to own it because he used it while serving on the
Bolingbrook Police Department SWAT team.
One law enforcement source, however, said the gun's barrel was
only about 11 inches -- well short of the state limit. Another source
contended Peterson couldn't legally possess the AR-15 even when
he was a police officer because he purchased it privately.
Drew Peterson leaves the Will County Jail with his lawyer
after posting bond on gun charges on Wednesday.
(STNG/Sun-Times)
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
05-22-2008 08:48 AM
Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
05-22-2008 08:50 AM
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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
05-22-2008 08:51 AM
Navigatr1 Drew Peterson's attorney Joel Brodsky (center) talks to the media
Extended Sabatical gathered at the Bolingbrook Police Department. (Richard A.
Chapman/Sun-Times)
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Extended Sabatical
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05-22-2008 08:53 AM
Navigatr1 Drew Peterson walks into his lawyer's car to hand himself in
Extended Sabatical on Wednesday in Bolingbrook. (Terence Guider-Shaw/
Naperville Sun)
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05-22-2008 08:55 AM
The spokesperson for the Will County state's attorney and Sergeant
Burek of the Illinois State Police spoke earlier about Peterson's
arrest at a press conference.
QUESTION: His attorney, Mr. Brodsky, says the state police are just
harassing him. What do you say to that, sir?
(CROSSTALK)
QUESTION: You've had the gun since November, and he's saying,
Look, you've had it six months. Did it take you that long to figure
that out?
PELKIE: No, absolutely not. We've known it was illegal since shortly
after the gun was taken into possession by the Illinois State Police.
(LAUGHTER)
PETERSON: What?
(CROSSTALK)
(CROSSTALK)
BRODSKY: Well, it's the same thing that they did with the EPO (ph)
BRODSKY: They asked. They asked -- they took some of the guns,
and some of the guns -- the rest of the guns were voluntarily
surrendered 1st of November. He didn't resign until mid-November.
QUESTION: Why did they wait until (INAUDIBLE) Talk about the
timing.
BRODSKY: Yes, the timing is very suspicious, that they would wait
until the day before we're going to get -- supposed to get the court
order that the guns be returned to his son.
VAN SUSTEREN: Any idea who gave him this gift basket?
BRAGIEL: Right now -- right now, Greta, it appears we've got a car
behind me. The alarm is going off in this interview here, so I don't
know if he's doing that from inside the house or if a neighbor is
doing that or what.
VAN SUSTEREN: Or maybe the producers are trying to steal the car.
BRAGIEL: Possibly.
(CROSSTALK)
(CROSSTALK)
VAN SUSTEREN: My money is on it that Drew has hit the -- has hit
the key and sounded the alarm. That's a riot.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, at least it's only 9:08 Central time, and so
the kids in the neighborhood -- I don't know, is it school night
there? I guess -- we have satellite trucks (INAUDIBLE) He's now
added to the (INAUDIBLE) with the horn.
BRAGIEL: It's a school night here, but plenty of neighbors are out in
this area, just watching what is going on. So clearly -- and it's a
nice evening out here, so nobody's inside.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, the good thing is, is that he can -- he can
say that he doesn't want all the attention.
BRAGIEL: Oh, no. Are you kidding me? He loves all this attention.
I'm sure he'll be out before the night's over, getting his mail once
again.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Well, you know what? I got to give him
credit. Sort of funny how he -- he punk'd us. Anyway, Mary
Frances, thank you.
Drew's car, an interesting tough. But anyway, let's talk about these
guns. When did you stay at Drew Peterson's home?
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. The one in question, which is the AR-15,
apparently, at least the allegation is, is that it has been -- that it is
too -- the barrel is too short, that it might have -- has it been
altered, do you know?
MIMS: I don't think so. I think that he purchased it that way. He's
not a gunsmith. He's just a gun collector, so...
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. And the allegation, it's three eighths of
an inch too short. At one time, it had a suppressor on the end of it.
Did you ever see the suppressor on the end of that gun?
VAN SUSTEREN: Have you talked to Drew since you left his home?
MIMS: No. No, I haven't. I haven't had any contact with him.
MIMS: I haven't had any reason to. I don't believe his story. I don't
believe his alibis. He told me that Sharon next door was a liar,
which I don't believe. So I made my own conclusions, and based on
what the state police and Sharon and everybody that is close to the
story has revealed to me, is that, I mean, he's guilty.
MIMS: No, I haven't heard anything other than when the news
story broke originally, that he was in the hospital for, I guess,
trying to commit suicide right when -- about the same time Stacy
disappeared. And I really don't know much about, other than what
I've heard, you know, through the media.
AP
A joke-cracking Drew Peterson didn't appear too concerned
about the felony gun charge he faces.
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05-23-2008 09:52 AM
On the eve of learning whether he can give his 11 guns to his son,
the long arm of the law came down on Drew Peterson because one
of his weapons was too short.
"They may believe it's a tactic to shake him up, but it's certainly not
going to work," he said. "Drew was joking with police officers when
he was taken into custody."
"The timing is very suspicious that they would wait until the day
before we were supposed to get the court order that the guns be
returned to his son," he said. "I think the Illinois State Police are
fixated on these guns. . . . I don't understand it. It's not logical."
"We feel the case is progressing well," Sgt. Thomas Burek said in
front of the courthouse. "An arrest will be made."
"The weapon was illegal, and it was privately owned," said Charles
Pelkie, spokesman for the state's attorney's office. "Up to this point,
it's been in the possession of the Illinois State Police so it wasn't
really an issue. But we can't allow an illegal weapon to go back out
on the street. At this point, it was appropriate to file the charge."
Pelkie said the rifle barrel was slightly more than 11 inches long—
almost five inches shorter than required by law. He said that even
with a removable flash suppressor attached to the end—which
legally cannot be considered part of the barrel—the gun was still too
short.
Bolingbrook police spokesman Lt. Ken Teppel said the weapon was
not issued by the department, and any personal weapons owned by
Peterson must be lawful. Teppel said, "If it's a personal weapon, he
is still bound by state law, federal law."
"We don't want to see anything that's not being done according to
the law, especially if these guns are going to be returned to his
family members," Bosco said.
mwalberg@tribune.com
eslife@tribune.com
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05-23-2008 10:16 AM
State Police seized the gun last November while investigating the
Oct. 28 disappearance of Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy. At that
time, Drew Peterson was a Bolingbrook police sergeant, though he
has since retired.
Judge Sarah Jones made no ruling on the request but set a June 30
hearing date.
The federal gun law only allows police officers to carry concealed
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against Peterson, said Charles Pelkie, a spokesman for Will County
"At the time this weapon was seized, Peterson did not have an
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the guns to his son and that authorities must turn them over.
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The new State law passed the House today with a vote of 109 -
0 and takes effect immediately.
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11-21-2008 05:55 AM
Peterson's last two wives had told family and friends that they
were fearful of Peterson, who is a suspect in the Oct. 28, 2007,
disappearance in his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson. In addition,
Stacy Peterson also told her minister that her husband had
allegedly confessed to her that he killed his third wife, Kathleen
Savio, according to the minister.
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11-21-2008 06:08 AM
http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...USNWC34L3_UNEWS
Selig wouldn't give any details about Peterson's new fiance and
Peterson wouldn't comment.
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12-17-2008 01:45 PM
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12-17-2008 06:10 PM
liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by kola
"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
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12-17-2008 07:11 PM
http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...USNWC34L5_UNEWS
Peterson had said on the show that he treated Raines "better than
she's ever been treated."
Hours later, Raines, her father, Ernest, and a TV crew came to the
home to retrieve her belongings. Peterson refused to allow the
father on his property or the cameras in the home, and Ernest
Raines called police Friday morning, Teppel said.
"Drew did tell me it's over," said Glenn Selig, Peterson's publicist.
disappeared.
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01-30-2009 11:47 PM
photoman Did Drew file for DIVORCE? He claims his wife is still alive and left
Senior Member him for another man - so if he were going to get married he would
be required by law to get a Divorce before he could legally marry
Registered: Aug 2006 again.
Location: Under your bed...
Posts: 875 It would be interesting to know how he played that off!
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http://cbs11tv.com/national/drew.pe...d.2.923338.html
"I am not afraid about me," Ernie Raines said. "I can handle
me. I was worried about my daughter, because if she crosses
him I know what this man is capable of."
At that point, Teppel said, Peterson's only request was that the
camera crew leave during the move.
Ernie Raines this week went on the television show of Dr. Phil,
who told the father to have suitcases packed for Cristina to
leave. An alternative plan called for Ernie Raines to pretend to
approve of the union, gain his daughter's trust, then convince
her to leave.
"I think it's very good that she's learned early on that she needs
to get out of there and get safe away from him until he's
arrested," Cales said. "I don't want another victim. We don't
need another family like mine or the Savios losing their loved
one."
murdered.
Peterson said he'll miss Christina and her kids after she leaves
under pressure from family, "But I won't miss the other
nonsense," according to a release from Derek Armstrong,
author of "Drew Peterson Exposed."
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01-31-2009 11:17 PM
http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...USNWC34L3_UNEWS
She didn't directly address her claim earlier this month their
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02-13-2009 01:51 PM
TheJackel Attorney for Drew Peterson dismisses reports that Peterson enlisted
DOUGHNUT MAKER - cream stepbrother
with that sir?
But Morphey also said that the day before the blue barrel incident,
Drew Peterson asked him: "How much do you love me?" and
"enough to kill for me?"
Morphey told the newspaper that he has not been called to testify
before the special grand jury investigating the Peterson cases.
Brodsky said that it could show that the Will County state's
attorney's office believes Morphey has a credibility problem.
"If they found him credible [he] would have been one of the first
witnesses they brought in [to the grand jury] and they would have
based the entire case on his testimony," Brodsky said.
"The only thing I can say is these investigations are moving ahead
full steam," he said, "and we expect to bring one to conclusion."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,6234138.story
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03-17-2009 01:50 PM
liberranter quote:
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But Morphey also said that the day before the
blue barrel incident, Drew Peterson asked
him: "How much do you love me?" and
"enough to kill for me?"
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03-17-2009 08:22 PM
Registered: Aug 2006 I want to point out as much as I would love to see him convicted of
Location: Under your bed... killing those women, the tactics being deployed by allowing the
Posts: 875 admission of hearsay evidence (The Drew Peterson Law) in a
criminal trial is headed down a very slippery slope for ever other
member of the public.
03-17-2009 11:46 PM
I agree, Photoman. The efforts of the Big Fat Blue Line Gang to
protect one of their own is very obvious in the case of Kopscum
Peterson. His actions are way beyond outrageous, and the failure of
the Kopscum "investigating" the several cases involving him are
glaring examples of their incompetence.
And, as you point out, since Amerikan Kopscum have come to rely
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03-18-2009 10:40 AM
liberranter Well said, both Photoman and Night Raven. The admission of
Super Moderator hearsay evidence is a travesty, no matter how much everyone
would love to see Peterson fry for his crimes. Remember the old
maxim (which I'm paraphrasing here): "Never seek to acquire
power for yourself that could fall into the hands of your enemy."
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03-18-2009 04:28 PM
03-19-2009 12:33 AM
Night Raven Drew Peterson's Son: "Accidents happen all the time"
Senior Member
Drew Peterson's son tells CBS 'Early Show': 'I don't believe
it'
"I don't know what else to say," he said. "I don't believe it."
"I want to say he's the greatest dad in the whole world,"
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-042409.article
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whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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04-24-2009 07:07 PM
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Savio's brother told NBC Chicago that state police notified him
of Peterson's arrest.
"We've always said we were in full support with the Savio family
and their search to find out what happened to Kathleen, and we
believe that once we have that information it'll also help us with
Stacy's situation, because Kathleen and Stacy had one common
factor, and that was Drew Peterson," Bosco said.
Drew, 55, has been all over the news since his wife
disappeared. In recent months he's gone on morning radio talk
shows about his on-again, off-again girlfriend, 23-year-old
Christina Raines. This week, he was offered a job by the owner
of a brothel, the Moonlite Bunny Ranch, to be part of its HBO
show, Cathouse
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http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.p....2.1004167.html
Peterson was also cast into the national spotlight this past
winter, when girlfriend Christina Raines moved in with him and
they announced plans to marry, prompting an irate response
from Raines' father. Raines has since moved out of Peterson's
house.
Until now, his only arrest was for a 2008 gun charge, claiming
that he owned an assault rifle with a barrel shorter than allowed
by state law. The charge was later dismissed.
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"I requested the $20 million bond because I felt this was as
grave and serious a case as I've ever handled," Glasgow said.
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05-08-2009 11:38 AM
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I wonder what other crimes he was involved in when he wore the
badge? Each and every one of his cases from day one needs
examining, especially if his testimony sent the accused to prison or
worse.
05-08-2009 12:09 PM
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It would seem that Peterson's Fat Blue Line Gang would have made
him "Officer of the Year" by now. After all, he is a sterling example
of the perfect copskum: narcissistic, self-centered, self-serving,
devoid of any moral compass, greedy, sneaky, manipulative,
violent, and, of course is a murderous, lying psychotic. What's more
to want?
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05-08-2009 12:28 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LawPolitic...=7535528&page=1
"It's a very hollow victory right now not knowing where Stacy
is," said Sharon Bychowski, a friend of Stacy Peterson who lives
next door to Drew Peterson. "We still have a ways to go. It
wasn't quite the victory I thought it would be."
Doman said the family hopes the arrest is the first step in
justice for her sister. Peterson was arrested shortly before he
was scheduled to fly to Reno to interview for a security job at a
brothel featured on a cable television show.
"It was a big relief because he wasn't going on all these shows,
going around joking and laughing," Doman said.
Peterson, 55, was being held at the Will County Adult Detention
Facility in Joliet, Ill., with bond set at $20 million, and could face
60 years in jail, Will County State's Attorney James W. Glasgow
said.
Brodsky has called the $20 million bond "excessive" and said he
hoped to get it reduced. Another attorney told The Associated
Press that Peterson had an alibi for Savio's death.
Doman added that she hoped now "he's eating oatmeal" in jail.
She knew Peterson's arrest was coming because she had been
working with authorities, and she hoped justice would finally be
done.
"No matter how strong you are, get out," she said she would
tell other abused women.
"I put more faith in the first autopsy because it was fresh," he
said at the time.
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05-08-2009 11:29 PM
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"Three squares a day and this spiffy outfit, look at all this
bling," Peterson, who is being held on $20 million bond, quipped
as he walked by reporters.
Savio's body was found with her hair soaked in blood from a
head wound, just before the couple's divorce settlement was
finalized. Her death originally was ruled an accidental drowning
but authorities later said it was a homicide staged to look like
an accident.
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05-09-2009 08:28 AM
liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
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05-09-2009 07:40 PM
Puddles It's really sad that it took Stacy's disappearance for Kathleen's
Junior Member family to get justice. Kathleen's abuse was documented yet not one
person had the guts to help her.
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quote:
A deputy's letter home: "Dear Mom, Life is good. There are many
donuts here in Will County...."
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05-10-2009 12:33 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,6426012.story
And while Brodsky said the first step is to get Peterson out of
jail, he also said his legal team is weighing the pros and cons of
moving the high-profile case.
Brodsky visited the Will County Jail later Sunday to speak with
Peterson, who is segregated from the general jail population.
The attorney had said earlier that they would discuss Peterson's
comments about his "spiffy" jail outfit and the "bling" of his
restraints.
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Brodsky visited the Will County Jail later
Sunday to speak with Peterson, who is
segregated from the general jail population.
The attorney had said earlier that they would
discuss Peterson's comments about his
"spiffy" jail outfit and the "bling" of his
restraints.
That's the one silver lining in this whole sordid case: Drew
Peterson's pea brain and loud mouth are going to be the rope
that hangs him.
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05-11-2009 02:07 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/LawPol...=7554507&page=1
Neither Stacy Peterson nor her body have ever been found, nor
has the mysterious blue barrel.
Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, has said he'll challenge the law
as unconstitutional.
Brodsky has called the $20 million bond "excessive" and said he
hoped to get it reduced. Another attorney told The Associated
Press that Peterson had an alibi for Savio's death.
"Then I think the prosecution will combine both cases, and each
case will sort of feed off the other and will present a powerful
picture to both a trial judge and a jury that this guy is a serial
murderer," Cole said.
Stacy Peterson's friends and family said last week that her
husband's arrest is bittersweet.
"It's a very hollow victory right now not knowing where Stacy
is," said Sharon Bychowski, a friend of Stacy Peterson who lives
next door to Drew Peterson. "We still have a ways to go. It
wasn't quite the victory I thought it would be."
Doman said the family hopes the arrest is the first step in
justice for her sister. Peterson was arrested shortly before he
was scheduled to fly to Reno to interview for a security job at a
brothel featured on a cable television show.
"It was a big relief because he wasn't going on all these shows,
going around joking and laughing," Doman said.
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05-11-2009 02:56 PM
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Morphey survived the attempt but does not know if this makes
him lucky.
“It kills me,” said Morphey, who broke a near 17-month silence
to speak out last week. “There’s not a day that goes by that I
don’t wish I could take back the events of that day.”
Peterson and Stacy, his fourth wife, have two children who lived
with them in their Bolingbrook home. Peterson and his third
wife, Kathleen Savio, had another two children together who
also lived with Peterson and Stacy after Savio was found
drowned in a dry bathtub in March 2004.
The near year and a half that has passed since he first told
police and prosecutors his story has spurred him to question
what progress has been made in the case, and to speak out
publicly about the last time he was in his stepbrother’s house.
Murder plot?
Morphey said the day before the blue barrel incident, Peterson
showed up at his home, ostensibly to take him to a nearby
Meijer store, where Peterson, the overnight sergeant for the
Bolingbrook Police Department, had supposedly lined up a job
“How much do you love me?” Morphey said Peterson asked him,
and Morphey answered that he did love him, a lot.
Morphey said he feared a life was at stake, but did not know
where to turn because Peterson was a police officer. “It’s just
something I have to live with,” Morphey said. “I grew up
Catholic. I believe if you take another life, you go to hell.”
The night after their trip to the park on Remington, and then
the storage facility, Morphey said Peterson showed up again.
Morphey admits he’d been drinking beer, but claims to have a
clear recollection of what transpired.
“He just started driving,” Morphey said. The two men got coffee
at a Starbucks drive-through before heading to a park off
Weber Road. There, Morphey said, Peterson handed him a cell
phone, told him not to answer it, then left.
“Really, all I could think when I saw “Stacy” on the phone was
he was killing her while I was standing there,” he said.
But it did not take Morphey long to talk. Frantic, he left his
house and went up the street to see his friend Walter Martineck.
Peterson visits
Getting immunity
Morphey said he spent about five months away from his family
for his own protection. The state police first put him and Alcox
up in a motel about two hours from his home. Alcox returned
after a long weekend.
Holding pattern
That was a year ago. And Morphey has yet to speak a word to
the ongoing grand jury convened to hear evidence about
Stacy¹s disappearance and Savio’s death.
The state police have told Morphey to keep his mouth shut,
Morphey said. But he wants to know what the police are waiting
for. “I just feel like the truth needs to be told at some point,” he
said. “...I don't know if I’ll get my day in court.”
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05-11-2009 04:32 PM
liberranter I sincerely hope Tom Morphey is careful, since Drew might very
Super Moderator well have a small army of his fellow scumbags-in-blue ready to
"mop up" after him.
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GC Marciano A uniformed Drew Peterson poses with his latest murder victim,
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The ex-cop had two children with Kathleen Savio, whom he's
Registered: Jul 2003 accused of killing, and another two with Stacy Peterson, who
Location: Chicago, Illinois has been missing since 2007. Drew Peterson's adult son
Posts: 9967 Stephen announced Monday that he has taken custody of the
children, but relatives of Savio and Stacy Peterson are looking
into whether they can change that.
"We'd seen a lawyer a ways back and were told we'd have to
wait until he was charged," said Pamela Bosco, a friend of Stacy
Peterson who has acted as a spokeswoman for her family. "We
have to go back to a lawyer and see what's available to us."
He has two boys, ages 16 and 14, with Savio and a 5-year-old
boy and 4-year-old girl with Stacy Peterson. Peterson has long
maintained his innocence in Savio's death and Stacy Peterson's
disappearance.
Drew Peterson wanted his children to stay with his adult son,
said Reem Odeh, the law partner of Joel Brodsky, Peterson's
attorney, who has worked on Peterson's behalf.
"A parent whose rights have not been terminated has the right
to designate a guardian in writing," Kirsh said.
After the Savio family filed the wrongful death lawsuit, Peterson
appeared beside his teenage sons on CBS's "Early Show,"
during which the older boy defended his father and
characterized his grandfather and aunt as virtual strangers.
years."
"The court needs to place the children in the home that would
serve their best interests," Smetters said. "I would advise them
to prepare their home to take all of the children. It's very
important that these children don't go through any more
upheaval."
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05-13-2009 01:17 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30759276/
“I believe that was the last day of the grand jury and I believe
they had to do something. The state's attorney, I believe, was
under a lot of pressure from both the media and the Savio
family to do something,” he replied.
True or false?
Savio was found dead in her dry bathtub shortly after she and
Peterson divorced. She had a cut on the back of her head, and
the death was ruled an accidental drowning after she slipped
and hit her head on the tub.
Savio had told others that she feared Peterson would kill her.
Normally, those people would not be allowed to testify to that
hearsay evidence in court, but the Illinois legislature recently
passed a law that would allow the evidence to be admitted at
the trial. Constitutional scholars have questioned whether the
law will stand up to review, and Peterson told Lauer that he has
information that the legislature may be having misgivings about
the law.
“I have phone contact with them daily, and they’re doing very
well,” Peterson said. “The older two, they know what’s going on.
They are aware of what's happening. And the younger two —
I’m just with the police right now helping them.
“You told them you’re actually out helping the police trying to
find their mom?” Lauer asked.
“I didn't say I was trying to find her, just said I was helping the
police, and I believe that is what my son has told them,”
Peterson replied.
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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
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05-16-2009 07:26 AM
pyo1 quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
Registered: May 2009 [b]Drew Peterson: I’ll ‘probably be found
Location: Oklahoma innocent’
Posts: 1565 In jailhouse interview, accused killer criticizes grand
jury that indicted him
By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 8:40 a.m. CT, Fri., May 15, 2009
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30759276/
05-16-2009 01:47 PM
Puddles quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by liberranter
I sincerely hope Tom Morphey is careful, since
Drew might very well have a small army of his
Registered: Aug 2007 fellow scumbags-in-blue ready to "mop up" after
Location: him.
Posts: 21
I think Drew's been doing dirty deeds since he first got on the force.
I think he surrounded himself with the same ilk. Do I have proof....
nope but....it's just my opinion.
This woman cried out for help. The SOB's ignored her...Karma is a
Biotch...
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05-17-2009 11:21 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,2054740.story
two.
Brodsky told the Tribune last week that he was prepared to ask
a judge to drastically lower Peterson's bail from $20 million to
between $100,000 and $500,000.
Savio's family filled the first few rows inside the courtroom
Monday, and some said they thought Peterson, seated in the
jury box, was looking at them in a mocking way.
But Savio's niece Melissa Doman said she felt better seeing
Peterson's demeanor changed.
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05-19-2009 05:56 PM
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1...w_peterson.html
Will County prosecutors told the judge such a move would open
a "flood gate" for future cases.
The two sides also appear headed for a fight over a state law
passed after the 2007 disappearance of Peterson's fourth wife,
Stacy.
"He's been walking around for over a year with a smug smirk
and now it's gone," said Savio's niece, Melissa Doman.
The next argument will be over Brodsky's plan to ask the judge
to reduce Peterson's bond to under $500,000.
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05-19-2009 07:36 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-052109.article
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05-22-2009 12:10 AM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1
The coroner's office said it will take at least two weeks to obtain
the DNA and determine its match.
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05-22-2009 12:15 AM
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...-New-Judge.html
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05-22-2009 12:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BXX...player_embedded
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05-22-2009 12:19 AM
liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
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05-22-2009 04:40 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-052209.article
“It was a shock to us,” said Savio’s sister, Sue Doman. “It
brought tears to our eyes.”
Still, Peterson was “a little bit taken aback” by the decision not
For her part, the judge said she didn’t remember being involved
in any facet of that case.
After the hearing, defense attorneys said they still may seek to
replace Policandriotes — who only was appointed Thursday to
hear Peterson’s murder case.
Stacy’s sister said after the hearing that she is pleased that
Peterson will remain behind bars while he awaits trial for Savio’s
slaying.
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05-22-2009 09:28 PM
Night Raven Drew Peterson calls talk show, jokes from jail
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www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-...0,7065419.story
chicagotribune.com
Drew Peterson calls talk show, jokes from jail
Associated Press
During the nearly 7-minute phone call, Peterson tried out a few
crude one-liners.
"I didn't understand why they had seat belts on the toilet until after
I had a couple of meals here," he said while the hosts played a
drum sound effect.
He also said he misses his children and has prayed and read the
Bible during his imprisonment.
He denies wrongdoing.
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05-28-2009 07:20 PM
liberranter Re: Drew Peterson's Son: "Accidents happen all the time"
Super Moderator
quote:
...
The apple truly doesn't fall far from the tree. Look for Tommy
Peterson to someday occupy a cell in the same prison where his
daddy will spend the rest of his life, assuming that Tommy isn't
gunned down in the street first.
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05-28-2009 07:27 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,4654269.story
"We've had some high-profile inmates over the years, but I've
never had it like this where they're trying to be a comedian on a
radio show," said sheriff's spokesman Pat Barry. "It is a
problem. This guy makes jokes, says things that aren't true."
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05-29-2009 01:21 AM
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...o052809.article
Registered: Jul 2003 State's Attorney James Glasgow filed a motion on Wednesday to
Location: Chicago, Illinois forbid attorneys from leaking anything from discovery
Posts: 9967 documents, which will be turned over to Peterson's legal team
for the first time next week.
'Pretrial publicity'
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05-29-2009 01:24 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009...in5045422.shtml
"We can take no joy or relief in the fact that it isn't (Stacy
Peterson) because some family somewhere will be grieving,"
Drew Peterson's attorney, Reem Odeh. "But we hope this
invigorates a global search for Stacy and brings attention to the
fact that she is still missing."
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05-30-2009 05:12 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,2360497.story
For the second time, the judge in the Drew Peterson murder
Registered: Jul 2003 case has been replaced.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Will County Chief Judge Gerald Kinney on Monday assigned the
case to Circuit Judge Stephen White. The move was in response
to the defense's motion for a judge other than Carla Alessio
Policandriotes. Kinney said he found that the defense's motion
"does appear to meet the criteria."
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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...interviews.html
White asked for a list of permitted numbers, which the jail will
enter into its computerized phone system, but Peterson later
said he couldn't remember the phone numbers of anyone
besides his son since they were stored in his cell phone.
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06-03-2009 11:01 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/06...13001244397222/
The Sun-Times said the current bail level would mean $2 million
would have to be posted in order for Peterson to be freed from
a detention facility in Will County, Ill.
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06-08-2009 12:08 AM
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/.../1.html?cnn=yes
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07-08-2009 09:02 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-071409.article
Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson and his attorneys agreed Tuesday to postpone his
Location: Chicago, Illinois scheduled Aug. 24 trial for Savio's bathtub drowning death so
Posts: 9967 they have time to study thousands of pages of police reports,
forensic evidence and electronically recorded conversations.
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07-19-2009 01:35 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-071709.article
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07-19-2009 01:38 AM
A new autopsy of the third wife of former Illinois police officer Drew
Peterson shows that the woman was killed, a determination that
contradicts an earlier autopsy that said she died accidentally.
She and Peterson were going through a bitter divorce when Savio
was found dead in her bathtub with a gash to the back of her head.
The death was declared an accident by a coroner. Then Peterson’s
fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, went missing.
Peterson pleaded not guilty to murder in the Savio case in May and
has denied wrongdoing in both cases.
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07-23-2009 12:09 PM
http://www.wbbm780.com/Peterson-s-M...-County/4898277
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07-29-2009 05:53 PM
Registered: Jul 2003 Drew Peterson attorney John Paul Carroll faces discipline (IL)
Location: http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=37065
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quote:
[snip]
As you can see, John Paul Carroll is a former Chicago police officer
and Cook County Assistant DA. No wonder he forgot to tell his
clients about the plea deal.
--Navigatr1
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09-06-2009 11:59 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,2340024.story
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09-14-2009 08:00 AM
liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by Navigatr1
--Navigatr1
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09-14-2009 06:55 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=7064866
"The judge didn't stay the case, didn't freeze the case. But he
also said that Drew or indicated that Drew can take his Fifth
Amendment privilege in answer to any question or any
pleading," said Joel Brodsky, Peterson's attorney.
Savio's death was originally ruled an accident, but the case was
determined to be a homicide after Peterson's fourth wife Stacy
disappeared.
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sleevelead quote:
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Originally posted by liberranter
Registered: Dec 2006 If what this judge is saying is that Peterson can
Location: "take the Fifth" in his civil trial, then that trial
Posts: 146 verdict is going to be shredded by an appeals
court, since "the Fifth" applies to criminal cases
only. In fact, this judge maybe guaranteeing a
mistrial before it even starts.
10-17-2009 01:15 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-102709.article
Registered: Jul 2003 The suit claims in May 2005, Peterson received a home equity
Location: Chicago, Illinois credit line from Chase for $220,000. The credit line — which the
Posts: 9967 former Bolingbrook cop now wants to use to post part of his
bond, pay his attorneys and hire expert witnesses — was
suspended by the bank in May 2009.
“If he doesn’t get the money and his assets are frozen he’ll
have to petition the court to allow him to use tax money to be
able to hire all these expensive expert witnesses,” said Walter
Maksym, who is representing Peterson in the suit. “Taxpayers
are already paying for the prosecution. He’s up against he
might of the state and now his major asset is not accessible to
him.”
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10-27-2009 09:21 PM
http://www.breakingtweets.com/2009/...-peterson-case/
Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson requested a change of venue, claiming that because of
Location: Chicago, Illinois the massive media coverage of the case, including his own
Posts: 9967 appearances on the Today Show, Nightline, his attempts to
participate in a radio dating contest and Fox News, he would
have trouble finding an impartial jury in Will County. Peterson’s
lawyers also challenged the ’Hearsay Law’, enacted less than a
year ago, which provides prosecutors the opportunity to use
statements made from Peterson’s third wife, Kathleen Savio,
recalling the fear she had for her life and disturbing speculations
about what Peterson had in store for her. According to the
United Press International, the judge was unmoved by the
request and confirmed that hearsay law only codified
existing case law.
Tweeters are keeping up with the many twists and turns in the
case and there seems to be little doubt amongst them about his
guilt.
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10-27-2009 09:35 PM
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After receiving that call about 9:30 p.m. on the 28th, Peterson
told police he drove around for a while, then walked to the
nearby airport and retrieved Stacy's car. He said he found the
car unlocked with the keys on the floorboard.
Savio -- the third wife of Drew Peterson --- was found dead in
the bathtub of her home in March of 2004 and her death was
initially ruled an accident. When Peterson's fourth wife Stacy
disappeared three years later, Savio's body was exhumed and
her death reclassified a homicide.
up to her disappearance.
"'I wish Drew would hit me so I could get out,'" Aikin said Stacy
Peterson had told her in early October 2007. "'I feel stuck.'"
When both said they did, she encouraged them to "hold each
other and ask forgiveness."
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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...reaking+News%29
answered, "Can you believe that?" Peterson said Stacy told him
she had left the keys on the floorboard and the doors unlocked.
Callaghan said Peterson told the officers that he and Stacy were
having marital problems, but that their fights coincided with
Stacy's menstrual cycle, and that they would always make up
and "have great sex" afterward.
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01-28-2010 07:55 AM
Night Raven Drew Peterson Trial: Pathologist: Fox News producer helped with Savio
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and then placed in the bathtub, where her attacker drowned her.
Bruises to her body support his theory, Baden said.
"You can get a lot of injuries from rough sex, but a hemorrhage of
the diaphragm is not one of them," Baden said.
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02-19-2010 11:35 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,6401721.story
The June 14 trial date was set in February. The request for a
postponement until Aug. 23 irritated Will County Judge Stephen
White.
"I have two weeks totally blocked off on my schedule (for the
June trial)," said White, who will rule Wednesday on the
continuance motion. "I've also had jurors on call since October
who were given these dates."
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http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...ewsDCC_article4
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Posts: 4812 PEORIA, Ill. (AP) — Investigators searched a muddy stretch of
remote central Illinois on Saturday for the remains of the fourth
wife of Drew Peterson, the former suburban Chicago police officer
awaiting trial for the murder of his previous spouse.
He wouldn't say when the search began or how large the search
area is. He also wouldn't confirm where the lead came from or how
credible police thought it might be.
"Drew's position from day one has always been that she ran off with
another man, because that's what she told him," Brodsky said.
"This is just another in a long line of unsubstantiated rumors about
Drew Peterson, all of which have proved to be false."
http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...=&cps=0&lang=en
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06-05-2010 11:42 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/04/drew-...r-illinois-dig/
Registered: Jul 2003 Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... Peterson, an ex-cop who
Location: Chicago, Illinois is currently behind bars awaiting trial for the murder of his third
Posts: 9967 wife, told an inmate yesterday how he killed Stacy Peterson,
wife number 4. Stacy's body has never been recovered.
We're told State Police are now guarding the property and
authorities will begin digging Saturday morning.
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06-06-2010 12:34 AM
http://www.tmz.com/person/drew-peterson/
UPDATE: Authorities called off the search for the day at around
6:00 PM local time.
Attachment: 0605-peterson-buried-tmz-ex-credit.jpg
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06-06-2010 11:39 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...s_n_602184.html
Registered: Jul 2003 After a full day's search turned up nothing, authorities said they
Location: Chicago, Illinois would return later in the week with "more sophisticated
Posts: 9967 equipment."
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06-06-2010 05:49 PM
Registered: Jul 2003 June 30, 2010 12:05 AM | No Comments | UPDATED STORY
Location:
Posts: 31403 Drew Peterson's defense team is seeking to bar a renowned
pathologist from serving as a prosecution witness after finding a
telephone number for "Girls Gone Wild" producer Joe Francis in
notes related to an autopsy, the Tribune has learned.
The defense long has shown disdain for the autopsy, which Dr.
Michael Baden performed on Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio,
in 2007, at the behest of both her relatives and the Fox News
Channel.
But after finding the reference to Francis in the materials and being
unable to find video footage from the procedure, Peterson's
attorneys submitted a motion calling the autopsy "irretrievably
compromised."
Though the prosecution's case doesn't hinge on Baden's testimony,
his sterling reputation would add heft to allegations that Peterson
drowned his wife in her bathtub in 2004. In addition to working on
the O.J. Simpson and Phil Spector murder trials, he is the host of
the HBO series "Autopsy."
time. Watts said he has since become friends with Francis, who
made millions selling videotapes of college-age girls baring their
breasts while on spring break.
Brodsky said in court that the defense has received three pages of
Watts' notes from the autopsy. Sources later told the Tribune that
on a page noting the weight of Savio's liver, Watts had written
down three telephone numbers, including Francis' personal cell
phone number.
A Fox News spokeswoman said Watts, who no longer works for the
network, did not participate in the autopsy.
Both sides are precluded from discussing the contents of the sealed
motion, but Peterson attorney Steven Greenberg said the
circumstances surrounding the autopsy are troubling.
The judge also seemed upset by the network's involvement with the
autopsy and has threatened to ban Baden if the footage cannot be
found. Baden, a Fox News analyst, has testified that the cable
outlet paid his expenses because Savio's family could not afford his
services.
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Registered: Jul 2003 Posted: Jul 07, 2010 11:44 AM PDT Updated: Jul 07, 2010 2:44 PM
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JOLIET, Ill. (AP) - Former police officer Drew Peterson's trial on
charges of killing his third wife will be delayed and he could be
released on bail while prosecutors appeal a judge's decision to
exclude evidence considered crucial to the case, attorneys said
Wednesday.
But Will County Judge Stephen White ruled Tuesday he would not
allow a jury to hear some hearsay - or second hand - evidence,
including statements Savio allegedly made to others. Such evidence
is considered crucial to the case because prosecutors have not yet
produced physical evidence linking Peterson to Savio's death,
firsthand witnesses or a confession.
The appeal could mean Peterson will be released from jail. Glasgow
said Illinois law doesn't allow a defendant to be held during such an
appeal unless there are "compelling reasons" to do so, and
Peterson's attorneys said they'll seek his release.
Savio's death originally was ruled an accident after her body was
found in an empty bathtub. Her body was exhumed after Stacy
Peterson disappeared, and Savio's death was ruled a homicide.
"They chickened out. They knew they didn't have a case," said
Joseph Lopez, one of Peterson's defense attorneys. "They're telling
the appellate court, we don't have a case without this hearsay."
A person familiar with the case told The Associated Press that
among the statements White ruled a jury can't hear was one from
Stacy Peterson's pastor, who said she told him she'd given Peterson
a false alibi the weekend of Savio's death. The person spoke on
condition of anonymity because the judge's orders have been
sealed.
That person said the pastor, Neil Schori, will still be allowed to
testify about other conversations with Stacy Peterson.
For example, Schori can testify Stacy Peterson told him of seeing
her husband, dressed all in black, dumping his clothes and women's
clothing that did not belong to Stacy into their washing machine the
night before Savio's body was found in her bathtub, the source said.
The person also said White ruled one of Savio's co-workers couldn't
testify. During the hearing to determine what hearsay testimony
would be allowed at trial, Issam Karam said Savio told him about a
night at her home when Peterson, armed with a knife, allegedly
grabbed her throat and told her there was nothing she could do to
protect herself from him.
But the appeal likely signals that the prosecution's case could be in
trouble, said Terry Sullivan, a Chicago attorney and former
prosecutor who has followed the case.
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05-21-2010 09:35 AM
liberranter Re: You Can Get 15 Years in Jail For Recording an On-Duty Cop in
Super Moderator Illinois (IL)
quote:
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05-21-2010 03:21 PM
zynchon The founders of this country were very specific and adamant of the
Member need for the citizens to keep an eye on the goings on of OUR
government in ALL of it's capacities. Thomas Jefferson must be
Registered: May 2010 spinning in his grave!
Location: Dallas As the article inferred it is not at all surprising that this is going on in
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Illinois, home of one of -if not the- most copscum corrupt cities in the
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05-21-2010 05:02 PM
jeremy1982 This is an issue i've dealth with first hand. I posted a video online of a
Junior Member cop violating the law, nearly running me over in the process of
breaking the law and I get told I'm being investigated for violating
Registered: May 2010 the felony eavesdropping laws, nevermind the officer who nearly ran
Location: St Louis me over due to his wreckless driving and violations of the law, which
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is conduct unbecoming an officer as well, no forget that, but attempt
to go after the person who brough the officers actions to light. I am
now fairly certain after affirming with the same attorney in the above
mentioned case that implied consent was given as he knew I had a
camera and did not object.
05-26-2010 05:39 PM
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jeremy1982 I wish it was a matter of misapplying the law, but they're not, the law
Junior Member clearly states it doesn't matter if there is a reasonable exectation of
privacy or not, that you can't record audio unless you get the consent
Registered: May 2010 of everyone whom you could pick up. They made the law specifically
Location: St Louis so you can't record the police without their consent.
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05-19-2009 02:14 AM
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1..._marijuana.html
ST. LOUIS -- Sheriff Raymond M. Martin has been the law for
nearly 20 years in a struggling southern Illinois county. But
federal prosecutors say he's been breaking it lately by peddling
pounds of pot, some seized by his own department, often in
Registered: Jul 2003 uniform and from his patrol vehicle.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Authorities on Monday led away a handcuffed Martin, 46, from
his small Shawneetown office after his arrest on federal drug
trafficking charges accusing him of supplying a dealer he
threatened to kill when that man said he wanted out. The
Gallatin County sheriff also allegedly pledged to use his
authority to shut down rival drug traffickers.
The dealer grew unsettled over time and wanted out, but Martin
would have none of that, Rountree wrote. At least twice, the
sheriff pulled his service revolver and insisted emphatically to
the dealer that making him "disappear" would be "that easy,"
according to the affidavit.
And the sheriff dispensed advice, cautioning the man that it'd
be "silly" for the dealer to get drunk or use pills and "mess it
up" because "we got a good thing going."
"(You) won't even have to work and stuff," Rountree said Martin
once told the snitch.
"I thought the world of that boy," said Roberta Tarrence, a 78-
year-old widow with a quilting business near the county
courthouse. "I've known him all of his life, and I know he was a
good sheriff."
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05-20-2009 01:53 PM
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05-20-2009 08:48 PM
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=7496&type=top
Martin's family were in court. The judge told his family they
should continue to support Martin, because this will be a very
stressful time.
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Registered: Jul 2003 Sheriff Raymond M. Martin, 46, is charged with three counts of
Location: Chicago, Illinois distribution of marijuana and two counts of carrying a firearm
Posts: 9967 during and in relation to drug trafficking.
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http://www.carmitimes.com/news/x117...-County-sheriff
Benton, Ill. -
Registered: Jul 2003 A federal grand jury has returned an indictment charging
Location: Chicago, Illinois Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond M. Martin, 46, of Junction, with
Posts: 9967 three counts of distribution of marijuana and two counts of
carrying a firearm during and in relation to a drug trafficking
crime.
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06-03-2009 08:35 PM
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Registered: Jul 2003 Federal agents arrested Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond
Location: Chicago, Illinois Martin, 46, last month at his office on three counts of marijuana
Posts: 9967 distribution and two counts of carrying a firearm — his service
weapon — while trafficking drugs. A grand jury in Benton, Ill.,
indicted Martin on the charges Tuesday.
Martin had been the law for nearly 20 years in the county by
the time investigators hauled him last month from his small
office in Shawneetown, a burg with little more than a
courthouse, a couple of convenience stores and a barbecue
restaurant.
affidavit.
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06-04-2009 03:28 AM
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/loca...fIhV8NvGyA.cspx
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06-09-2009 07:16 PM
GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by GC505
The courtroom was virtually empty Thursday;
quite a contrast to Martin's first appearance
on May 20, 2009. Then, family and friends
filled the courtroom.
Registered: Jul 2003 Perhaps his friends and family have finally realized that
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Raymond Martin is nothing but a piece of shit, and they have
appropriately discarded him as such.
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06-09-2009 07:18 PM
huckabuck001 GC505,
Senior Member
I guess it's kinda hard to show your face in public when your heros
costume is removed, and all that sit's before you is a bucket of shit
- minus the bucket...
06-09-2009 07:33 PM
GC Marciano Exactly. When the uniform is removed from the turd and it is
Copwatcher Extraordinaire publicly exposed as the true piece of shit it is, even it's family
hides in shame.
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Registered: Jul 2003
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
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Posts: 9967
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06-09-2009 09:15 PM
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07-19-2009 01:31 AM
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09-26-2009 07:28 AM
http://www.carmitimes.com/news/x178...ces-new-charges
Martin has been held without bail in the custody of the U.S.
Marshal since his arrest by federal agents on May 18.
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09-26-2009 07:30 AM
MARTIN has been held without bail in the custody of the United
States Marshal since his arrest by federal agents on May 18,
2009.
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10-16-2009 12:27 AM
http://www.news25.us/Global/story.asp?S=10843552
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10-16-2009 12:29 AM
GC Marciano Sheriff, Wife & Son Accused Of Murder For Hire Plot
Copwatcher Extraordinaire 10:18 pm CT January 02, 2010
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=9175&type=top
All three are being held on $1 million bond each. They are
scheduled to appear in Jackson County Circuit Court Tuesday.
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01-03-2010 04:58 AM
http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c002e0.html
Registered: Jul 2003 According to the Jackson County Sheriff's Office, Raymond
Location: Chicago, Illinois Martin, 47, an inmate at Jackson County Jail; his wife, Kristina
Posts: 9967 Martin, 36; and his son, Cody Martin, 20, both of Junction, were
arrested Saturday pursuant to warrants signed by Judge W.
Charles Grace following a request by Jackson County State's
Attorney Michael Wepsiec.
All three are now incarcerated in Jackson County Jail with bond
set at $1 million each. They are expected to make their first
court appearance Tuesday.
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01-03-2010 05:03 AM
GC Marciano I hope these new murder for hire charges help seal a sentence
Copwatcher Extraordinaire of life in prison for this scumbag...
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01-03-2010 05:08 AM
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=9180&type=top
"He's been doing this for so freaking long, somebody got balls
and stood up against him," said resident JR McGhee. "And now
he don't like it, so he's going to take out the wrath, and well the
wrath didn't work."
"That's what they get, it's not going to get him out of his
charges," said Shawneetown resident Rhonda McGhee. "So why
do such a thing like murder somebody?"
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01-04-2010 12:17 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=9485699
His 36-year-old wife, Christina Martin, and son Cody Martin also
were arrested Saturday when they came to visit him at the
Jackson County jail.
Court records don't say who the three plotted to kill, and no
The Martins did not enter pleas Tuesday. Raymond Martin has
pleaded not guilty to the earlier charges, which accuse him of
selling marijuana — often while on duty.
Martin, a Democrat re-elected four times, had been the law for
nearly 20 years in the county when drug investigators hauled
him away from his office in Shawneetown, a burg with little
more than a courthouse, a couple of convenience stores and
Rudy's barbecue restaurant.
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01-06-2010 03:04 PM
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01-10-2010 04:32 PM
http://thesouthern.com/news/local/c...1cc4c002e0.html
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evidence, murder for hire
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The grand jury also found probable cause for Martin to forfeit
his home in Junction, Ill., up to $104,000 found inside, a
firearm and $32,400 involved in the currency offense. Some of
the charges carry possible life terms.
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03-06-2010 12:46 AM
GC Marciano Sources have been telling us that Martin has told members of
Copwatcher Extraordinaire his family that when he gets to take the stand in his federal jury
trial April 12 [which will probably now be continued], he’ll get to
‘tell the whole story’ and ‘explain everything,’ and when the
feds see what a mistake they made, they’ll let him go…then the
whole fam can go on a nice vacation to the islands.
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03-06-2010 12:49 AM
http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html
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04-09-2010 12:20 AM
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=12426284
Wepsiec says the dropped counts were too much like the federal
conspiracy and witness-tampering charges Martin already faces.
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05-04-2010 08:52 PM
huckabuck001 Doesn't really sound like the charges were dropped, per se'. It
Senior Member sounds as if the state is letting the Feds handle this portion of the
case, which is good in a sense, as the Feds don't offer time off for
Registered: Feb 2007 good behavior, probation, or parole - with the Feds, as I understand
Location: Florida it, "time earned is time you'll serve". In other words, if this guy is
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tried and convicted under FEDERAL LAW, if he get a hundred years,
he'll serve all 36,500 days before he is released...
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Other residents in the area told the officers that the kids were
"not troublemakers or gang members," the plaintiffs say.
The police released the kids, then drove slowly past the six
plaintiffs, "staring at the plaintiffs as they passed."
The men say they had had no close contact with the officers
before the assault, and had no weapons on them.
They say they suffered "shame, humiliation and loss of
reputation among family members and neighbors of being so
publicly arrested and accused of crimes which they did not
commit."
They say four plaintiffs were found not guilty, and charges
against the other two were dismissed.
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04-23-2010 07:02 AM
Jacoba I often wonder if the reason more people are not outraged anytime
Senior Member the police or sheriffs departments do crap like this... is that it
simple does not shock them anymore.
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Location: It seems that the police have truly lost sight of why they exist. And
Posts: 439 if they have truly lost sight of why they exist, its past time we get
rid of them.
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"We depend greatly on the post for assets, for search warrants,
to back us up on all types of calls, and to handle calls whenever
we're not available," said Hamilton County Sheriff Greg Brenner.
But now that help will more than likely be gone, the office in
Carmi is set to close sometime in the fall. Which, Monken says
will undoubtedly leave a lot of area for other branches to cover.
"It just seems like the state's just looking only at dollars and
cents instead of the impact on the smaller departments, and the
more rural areas," said Brenner.
"We've made all these cuts in a lot of other areas, so we're kind
of at wits end here when all of our money is spent on
personnel," said Monken.
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03-25-2010 06:40 PM
GC Marciano I'm sure some dumbass will soon start a public whine-fest,
Copwatcher Extraordinaire declaring the decision to save money by laying off 500 of the
overpaid and mostly useless ISP troopers to be "dangerous" and
an action that will "cost citizens their lives" and other scripted
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Sheriffs say state police layoffs threaten safety
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:15 pm
http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html
HARDIN (AP) - Sheriffs around Illinois are angry over the state
police's plan to lay off more than 460 troopers and close five
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regional headquarters this year, calling it a threat to public
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 safety.
He said the layoffs will start July 1, and facilities will start to
close by Sept. 1.
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The campaign comes as State Police officials plan to lay off 460
troopers and close several district offices as part of deep state
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"A lot of the meth arrests come from simple traffic stops and
evidence found in vehicles," he said. "We are looking at ways to
pick up the slack, (but) we don't know where it's going to come
from."
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pyo1 quote:
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Originally posted by GC Marciano
Registered: May 2009 I'm sure some dumbass will soon start a public
Location: Oklahoma whine-fest, declaring the decision to save money
Posts: 1565 by laying off 500 of the overpaid and mostly
useless ISP troopers to be "dangerous" and an
action that will "cost citizens their lives" and
other scripted bullshit.
I'm all in favor of cutting every cop's salary by half, and I'm being
generous here. Public safety is NOT the compromise here. They will
form their little sty protests, and EVERY time they say they cannot
do their jobs, I'd fire the top and the bottom turd in the stool! I
CAN'T NEVER DID A DAMNED THING!!!
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03-25-2010 07:14 PM
GC Marciano quote:
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Originally posted by pyo1
I'm all in favor of cutting every cop's salary by
half, and I'm being generous here. Public
safety is NOT the compromise here. They will
form their little sty protests, and EVERY time
they say they cannot do their jobs, I'd fire the
top and the bottom turd in the stool! I CAN'T
NEVER DID A DAMNED THING!!!
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Location: Chicago, Illinois
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No kidding.
We have ISP Troopers here being paid six figures to write seat
belt tickets. Literally.
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Originally posted by GC Marciano
No kidding.
That's pretty much the case now in EVERY state, and although
cops might not be the entire cause of it, they're definitely top-
three contributors.
Here's a book I'm trying to get ahold of right now; it's being
called a "MUST-READ" for anyone concerned about the out-of-
control public sector.
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03-25-2010 07:29 PM
pyo1 quote:
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Originally posted by liberranter
Registered: May 2009 If these layoffs actually occur (which I doubt, if
Location: Oklahoma history is any guide), we can be pretty sure that
Posts: 1565 two trends will follow:
I'd prefer to pay those POS types, $300 a week (mol) raher than
the money they get for being useless now!
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03-25-2010 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by liberranter
Registered: May 2009 it's being called a "MUST-READ" for anyone concerned
Location: Oklahoma about the out-of-control public sector. [/B]
Posts: 1565
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03-25-2010 07:49 PM
The following was listed back on May 25, 2009. The situation
today is largely unchanged in spite of the pissant measures
taken to curtail these tax money suck-holes from continuing
to rob the state treasury. Also, bear in mind that the
Retirement Pay of such state employees is roughly 80% of
the average of the employee's top three salary years.
Registered: May 2008
Location: Mass. State Police Continue To Steal From Taxpayers
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NOTE: BE SURE TO ACCESS THE LINKS BELOW IN ORDER TO
SEE MORE ON THIS STORY. SOME OF THESE STATE KOPSKUM
ARE RIPPING OFF A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
FOR SLEEPING IN THEIR CRUISERS AT CONSTRUCTION
SITES!
See:
www.masslive.com/database/turnpiketroopers/
and
http://www.masslive.com/news/index....en_as_road.html
Mass. Turnpike detail seen as road to riches for many state troopers
by The Republican Newsroom
Saturday May 23, 2009, 2:00 PM
Nine officers from Troop E, the turnpike patrol unit, earned more
than $200,000 last year, 41 made $175,000 or more, and 93
topped the $150,000 mark, according to payroll records reviewed
by The Republican.
The figures explain why Troop E remains one of the most coveted
posts in state law enforcement. Besides dominating the list of top
police salaries, Troop E's top earners pocketed more than turnpike
officials, state judges and Gov. Deval L. Patrick.
Of the 173 officers assigned to the unit last year, only 15 earned
less than $100,000, and several of those worked only part of the
year.
The figures represent base pay, plus overtime and lucrative "extra
details" guarding road and utility crews - a perk that allows many
troopers to double or triple their base salaries.
TROOPER DATABASE
SEARCH:
State troopers and special detail assigned to Troop E and the
Massachusetts Turnpike
The supersized salaries for state troopers have exasperated public
advocacy groups and provoked periodic calls for reforms.
Yet little has been done to curb the payments, even as the Patrick
administration tries to shut down the state Turnpike Authority and
impose a 19-cent gasoline tax to shrink an estimated $1 billion
budget deficit. Since pitching the tax plan in February, Patrick has
been deluged with demands to reduce spending, not raise taxes.
"This is the moment for change; it is simply not fair to ask toll
payers to bear these kind of salaries," said Michael J. Widmer,
president of the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation.
"There are people making sacrifices all over the world" due to a
global financial recession, Widmer added. "There's no reason the
state troopers can't do it too."
"The reason these numbers are so high to begin with is that state
government is terrified to take on the unions," said David G.
Tuerck, executive director of the Beacon Hill Institute.
"A simple answer to all this would be to inform all public employees
to take a 10 percent pay cut now, or 15 when their contracts
expire," he said. "We'd save $1 billion a year."
For every mile of the 138-mile highway last year, there was a state
trooper earning well over $100,000 to patrol it.
Overall, Troop E, with its five barracks along the turnpike, took in
$25.9 million, with more than one-third of that, or $10.2 million,
coming from overtime and special details.
Top earners from Troop E were Lt. John F. O'Grady Jr., assigned to
Boston barracks, $240,809; Lt. Donald Place, now retired,
$240,493; Sgt. John Shea, East Boston barracks, $231,624;
Trooper Todd Glidden, Weston, $224,008; and Sgt. David
Douthwright, Westfield, $217,161.
Detail pay for state troopers starts at $40 an hour and escalates to
$80 an hour; civilian flaggers usually get between $20 and $37.
Statewide, the price tag for police details has been estimated at
$90 million a year, three times the cost for using civilian flaggers.
The turnpike is not just a bonanza for Troop E; 190 troopers from
other units landed extra detail assignments there last year, earning
as much as $79,767 and as little as $86.40.
Officials for both the Executive Office of Public Safety and Executive
Office of Transportation say it is still too early say how Troop E will
be affected by any reorganization.
"The question will become, 'Does the public safety secretary need
Troop E,'" Aloisi said.
However, both House and Senate versions preserve the salaries and
benefits of the turnpike police, according to Widmer.
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03-25-2010 08:23 PM
pyo1 No way they should get more than 50K at the top dog position,
Senior Member IMO! Most people break their backs to get even close to that!
03-25-2010 09:52 PM
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state’s attorney, were ticketed by Illinois Department of
Natural Resources officers for hunting-related offenses during
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Richardson also was issued two citations for failing to tag deer
(8-point buck and small fork buck), two for failing to check in
deer by 10 p.m. and one for failing to check in deer by 10 p.m.
(parental responsibility — on a deer taken by his son, a
juvenile).
When officers arrived, they found that the deer, which were
harvested earlier in the shotgun season, had not been tagged
nor had they been reported by telephone to IDNR.
According to sources, the hunters had tags for all of the deer
but one.
Until early summer, he had been on the legal staff of the IDNR
in Springfield. In June, he joined the legal staff of the Illinois
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Richardson also was issued two citations for failing to tag deer
(8-point buck and small fork buck), two for failing to check in
deer by 10 p.m. and one for failing to check in deer by 10 p.m.
(parental responsibility — on a deer taken by his son, a
juvenile).”
“I had the permits, and the deer were taken during daylight
hours,” Richardson told the Benton Evening News. “I took ’em
— I just didn’t tag ’em.”
When officers arrived, they found that the deer, which were
harvested earlier in the shotgun season, had not been tagged
nor had they been reported by telephone to IDNR.
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Richardson said he had permits and that the deer were taken
According to sources, the hunters had tags for all but one of the
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
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Bill Wynn says his son's been the target of ongoing suspicions that
he was involved with a local police officer's wife. But Wynn says it's
not true, and the assumptions shouldn't have lead to what he calls
a violent attack. One that happened only months after his son's
return from duty in Iraq.
"He's over there being shot at, serving his country, and then comes
home and gets ganged up on by police officers," says Bill Wynn.
He says ongoing tensions are common between his son Derek and
those he believes are responsible for his assault. But an encounter
at a local bar brought the issues to the forefront. Wynn says
Chevie's Lounge was the last place his son was at before he was
followed home.
"My wife said, 'I hear glass breaking and the horn honking' and I
come running out and they were running around the corner leaving.
Derek got out, I said, 'what's going on?' He said, '4 cops just beat
me up,'" says Wynn.
He says it all took place in this driveway. Now it's where state police
investigators are searching for evidence... in and around the car
with broken windows and blood. Wynn says, "He's got a big old
bloody eye- black eye here- he's got (scrapes) all over his back
where they beat him on his back, he's got marks all up and down
his legs where they tried to drag him out of the car while they were
hitting him."
Wynn says besides damage to the car and injuries to his son, he
says the incident gives him reason to doubt the local law
enforcement.
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08-13-2007 08:38 PM
sassy500 Now you know how safe we feel in Herrin in reagrds to my other
Junior Member situation
08-13-2007 08:40 PM
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08-13-2007 08:41 PM
sassy500 There is a better article on the WPSD TV 6 website that you should
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08-13-2007 10:26 PM
sassy500 There's an update on the story on the WSIL TV 3 web site. There
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Cundiff wouldn't release names of the two indviduals but said one is
a full-time deputy and the other had applied for a volunteer position
with the auxiliary. The deputy is currently on a paid administrative
leave.
In addition, Energy Police Chief Shawn Ladd said one of his off-duty
officers was allegedly involved in the incident.
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sassy500 This is the exact reason that my friend and I can't contact anybody
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Any time the actions of officers are called into question, the state
police are asked to conduct an investigation rather than the local
department.
District 13 State Police Officer David Sneed said that the incident is
still under investigation and evidence is still being pieced together.
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Garnati said before any charges are filed he must first await test
results from the state police crime lab. He refused to give specifics
on what is being tested. He said he hopes to receive the test results
within the next couple of weeks and would like to make his decision
on whether to file charges based on the evidence by the end of this
month.
"I realize that this case is being watched closely by the public and
the media as it should be," Garnati said. "And the allegations are
troubling, but this decision is now on my shoulders and my
shoulders alone. I want to make it clear that I am personally
handling this case."
Garnati said there are "several persons of interest" who have been
investigated by state police. He would not specify a number.
It was learned from Herrin Police Chief Stu Ridings that a part-time
dispatcher with the department was one of the men state police
were investigating. The dispatcher later resigned.
Energy Police Chief Shawn Ladd also confirmed that one of his
officers was being investigated from the altercation. The names of
the police officers and dispatchers accused of the assault were
withheld by authorities during the course of the investigation.
"After the test results come back from the crime lab, I will review
the law before making my final decision," Garnati said.
"If an arrest had been made on that night, the names would have
been released as is customary," he said. "I understand you're all
dying to know names, which would make you all (media) happy,
but from an ethics standpoint, I'm not allowed to do that."
"I explained the situation to him and told him I would be handling
the case," Garnati said.
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09-05-2007 02:13 PM
2- All will plead not quilty and they will all wave their prelimanery
hearing.
4- As part of that plea the ones that haven't will resign but that
makes them elgible to still work as a police officer somewhere else!
5- This will not prevent the family from suing these officers but they
will stand on their own and the departments will not be part of any
lawsuit!
09-06-2007 09:23 AM
09-22-2007 11:46 AM
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=3350&type=top
Garnati says waiting until now to arrest them has allowed him
to find nearly a dozen witnesses. “If I would have pulled the
trigger earlier, than I would have never knew about them.”
All four face misdemeanor and felony charges. Garnati says he's
looking for more information from witnesses-- and wants them
to know they could be charged with obstruction of justice if they
lie to investigators.
Murray resigned from his job with Herrin but remains on paid
Late Monday afternoon Herrin Mayor Vic Ritter told News 3 that
Herrin officer Clinton Ronchetto was placed on paid leave.
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Registered: Jul 2003 The two are being accused of beating another man just
Location: Chicago, Illinois one day before Murray and Carruthers were charged with
Posts: 9967 the beating of Derek Wynn of Herrin. "Derek Wynn's case is
Derek Wynn's case," Garnati explained. "This is a totally
separate incident."
Garnati is not sure how these new charges will affect Murray
and Carruthers' current situation. "I don't have a crystal ball,
and can't predict the future," he said. "Only time will tell."
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11-12-2007 11:33 PM
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All four have entered not guilty pleas, but the big story Monday
was that Williamson County State's Attorney Chuck Garnati is
filing for a gag order in this case. That's a request for himself,
and the attorneys for the four accused men, to refrain from
speaking to the media.
Drew says it's only right that he be able to tell his position too.
Attorneys for the four men have until November 28th to file any
objections to the gag order.
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11-19-2007 07:08 PM
In October, the four men, all of whom had ties to law enforcement,
were indicted by a grand jury with a combined total of 46 counts of
charges stemming from the alleged Aug. 13 beating of Derek Wynn.
Besides this case, Murray and Carruthers were charged last month
in connection with the Oct. 20 alleged beating of Carterville
residents McCaine Daughtery and Justin Parker. Murray and
Carruthers, along with Justin Poole, 22, of Marion and Casey Morris,
21, of Carterville, are scheduled to appear in court Dec. 17.
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Oct 24: Tony Swift files federal lawsuit against Kyle Rinella and Jeff
Hutchinson
Nov. 20: Donald Huse files federal lawsuit against county sheriff
and seven jailers regarding alleged beatings that took place from
Aug. 30, 2006 to Jan. 13, 2007
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In addition to the basic right the defendants have to ask for the
transfer, Ryan said with the amount of publicity the criminal case
has received, the defendants may have a better chance in federal
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Registered: Jul 2003 Officer Ronchetto was accused, with three others, in the beating
Location: Chicago, Illinois of Derek Wynn on August 13, 2007. One piece of paper, a
Posts: 9967 Motion to Dismiss, erases hundreds of pages of court
documents filed against Clinton Ronchetto. State's Attorney
Chuck Garnati says the hardest part for him was placing
Ronchetto at scene.
Wynn filed civil charges against the four men in federal court
"That voice message was something to the effect that, 'We just
beat some guy up,'" Garnati said.
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
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Vigilance American HERO kicks schitt out of copscum and bites his nipple off!
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Vigilance
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On second thought........I suppose you could say this American
HERO "took a bite out of crime".
01-19-2010 10:55 AM
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pyo1 quote:
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the officer identified himself as police but the other
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Originally posted by pyo1
Exactly. Since the article says that the cop was off duty, odds
are that he was acting like a drunken, obnoxious asshole and
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probably started the altercation. Then, of course, once he
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laws they're supposed to uphold: whipped out his state-issued
piece of costume jewelry and his state-issued firearm (which
was issued to him only for use in the course of his official
duties, not as his personal "safety blanket" to be carried around
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Advocate that cops face the same felony AWDW charges in off
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pyo1 The first thing that strikes me in your comment is, if he has a dick,
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"There is very little we can say, or the state's attorney can say,
because we don't want to prejudice his case."
It's very unlikely he'll have much of a law enforcement career with
an arrest record. Law enforcement officials in the area confirm
Turner has put in applications at other police departments. Those
departments are aware of his arrest.
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01-07-2010 11:13 PM
Jacoba If you ever wonder why there are few if any honest cops, here
Senior Member might be a good reason.
Registered: Jun 2009 You document criminal activity of your coworkers, you forward it to
Location: the State and then the state arrests you for giving them the
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JFC!?!?!?!
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There it is folks!
It's all about protecting the FATAZZ BLUE LINE, get rid of those
who are honest and those who will sound the alarm on the
corruption!!
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Senior Member Incompetence
November 8, 2009
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Registered: May 2008 A Northwestern University professor and journalism students who
Location: spent three years investigating the case of a man convicted in the
Posts: 4812 1978 killing of a security guard believe they have evidence that
shows prosecutors put the wrong man behind bars. But in the quest
to prove his innocence, they may have to defend themselves, too.
It’s a first for Protess and his investigative reporting students, who
have helped free 11 innocent men from prison, including death row,
since 1996. Their work also is credited with prompting then-Gov.
George Ryan to empty the state’s death row in 2003, re-igniting a
national debate on the death penalty.
The prosecutor’s office — led by Anita Alvarez, who last year was
elected Cook County state’s attorney on a reputation for toughness
— said it’s just being thorough, and wants to determine if students
may have skewed their findings to get a good grade.
elaborate.
“It goes to the interest and the bias of the students,” she said. “Did
they receive a better grade in the class? Was there incentive for
these students to develop additional information (about McKinney’s
innocence)?”
Protess and his students call that claim ridiculous — especially since
the prosecutor’s office has never asked for such records before
relating to investigations by the Medill Innocence Project, founded
by Protess in 1999. Legal experts also said it’s a rare request.
But in two cases they investigated in the last five years, students
who found compelling evidence of prisoners’ guilt still got As in his
class, Protess said, so students had no reason to pad their findings
in the McKinney case.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...110809.article#
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Office, which began an internal investigation the following year.
After more than a year of delay by the state, the center filed a
postconviction petition on behalf of McKinney in October 2008,
calling for a new trial or his immediate release. Following her
election that November as Cook County State's Attorney, hardline
career prosecutor Anita Alvarez fought the discovery of new
evidence, and in May she issued a sweeping, unprecedented
subpoena ordering Protess to hand over all material related to the
McKinney case--including students' private memos and grades.
Alvarez insultingly suggested that students might receive better
grades for uncovering exculpatory evidence and claimed that
Protess and his students were "investigators," not journalists, and
thus not subject to the Illinois shield law...Apparently Alvarez has
never heard of investigative journalism.
Judge Cannon will soon rule on the validity of the state's subpoena.
We urge her to throw it out and order a prompt evidentiary hearing.
The kind of difficult reporting undertaken by the Medill Innocence
Project should be celebrated, not undermined. It's shocking that the
state would rather keep an innocent man behind bars than admit a
mistake.
Find out the truth, David told us. That was his only mandate. Our
work on the McKinney case strongly convinced me of his innocence.
The facts were startling and overwhelming. We hoped that after the
Center on Wrongful Convictions shared our evidence with the Cook
County State's Attorney's office, the state would see things from
our vantage point, treat the facts with respect and come to a
serious conclusion about McKinney's innocence, granting him a new
trial or full release. That hasn't happened. Instead, the state has
stalled its own investigation and hit Protess and his students with
an unprecedented subpoena that has far-reaching ramifications.
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Posts: 1565 Two witnesses told investigators they were paid during a probe by
Northwestern University journalism students into a 1978 shotgun
slaying that the students believe unjustly sent a Harvey man to
prison for life, prosecutors alleged Tuesday.
"This evidence shows that Tony Drakes gave his video statement
upon the understanding that he would receive cash if he gave the
answers that inculpated himself and that Drakes promptly used the
money to purchase crack cocaine," according to the filing.
In the video, Drakes also alleges that Lane was present at the
slaying. But the court filing says Lane later claimed to know nothing
about the murder and said he told that to students. Asked about
Lane, Protess said he could not discuss any off-the-record
interviews, even to refute their existence.
So far, the students' efforts have helped get McKinney another shot
in court, and prosecutors say they are seeking the information in
preparation for that event.
In the latest filing, prosecutors allege that Drakes told them that
after a 2004 interview with the students, someone on the
investigative team paid a cabdriver $60 to take him from the
interview site in downstate Swansea to a gas station 2 miles away.
That amount was more than the fare and tip, and the leftover cash
-- $40 -- was given to Drakes, who used it to buy crack cocaine,
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Cook County D.A. uses the long arm of the law to harass journalism
students working on exonerating prisoners
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Editor's note: This column originally appeared on the blog
Dissenting Justice.
The prosecutors, however, will likely get the documents they seek
-- unless a judge determines that the students are "journalists"
under Illinois law. If the judge treats the students as journalists,
then Illinois law would shield their communications from disclosure.
The merits of the subpoena depend solely upon the status of the
students under the Illinois journalistic shield statute. Nevertheless,
Alvarez has apparently decided to launch a full smear campaign
against the Medill project.
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Vundering Cops plan benefit for officer Joseph Frugoli charged in fatal DUI (IL)
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Cops plan benefit for officer charged in fatal DUI (IL)
Donahue said FOP members have a right to use the building, and
emphasized that the FOP was not involved or advocating one way
or the other regarding the Frugoli case.
-- Staff report
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Cook County Judge Donald Panarese Jr. set a $500,000 bail for
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Joseph Frugoli, Off-Duty Cop's Bond Set at $500,000, Accused of
DUI in Double-Fatal Crash in Chicago
What's ironic is that this same police officer, just last week,
was ordered to pay Joseph Cairo $7,100 after a jury trial
involving a 2005 accident. He obviously did not learn his lesson
from that incident. He has been involved in other serious accidents.
Why wasn't this man's license suspended or why wasn't he
dismissed from the police force back then. The Chicago Police
Department said that Frugoli has been relieved of his police
powers. In addition to the traffic investigation being
conducted by the State Police, the Chicago Police
Department launched a probe by its Internal Affairs Division.
The bottom line is that this man's license should have been yanked
a long time ago. He did not belong behind the wheel of a car on any
street.
10-26-2009 03:34 PM
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10-26-2009 04:00 PM
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Posts: 1565 Anyone who attends this trash should have to pass through a line of
protesters who do not fear these scumbags!
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10-26-2009 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by pyo1
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10-26-2009 04:10 PM
MGMAN Words can't describe how I feel when I read $hit like this. This
Senior Member nation is in terrible trouble when those that are suppose to be
keeping us safe (MGMAN being cynical here), are actually the ones
putting the public at risk.
Come on you damn piece of $hit lowlife cop trolls, defend this $hit!
Note to mods
I am sorry about the tone of my post, but because of things I can't
reveal I am very hostile where police are concerned right now.
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10-26-2009 08:39 PM
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Come on you damn piece of $hit lowlife cop
trolls, defend this $hit!
There was a time not too long ago when some of the more
foolhardy among them would try, with predictably laughable
results. I haven't seen any do so recently, which tells me that
they've either been so overwhelmed by the exposure of their
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idiots than is already evident.
quote:
Note to mods
I am sorry about the tone of my post, but
because of things I can't reveal I am very
hostile where police are concerned right
now.
I hope that whatever is going on with you right now where cops
are concerned isn't causing you undo pain and suffering. I'm
sure I don't have to tell you to feel free to share it with us when
you feel the time is right, if ever.
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Originally posted by pyo1
Anyone who attends this trash should have to
pass through a line of protesters who do not fear
these scumbags!
quote:
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10-27-2009 10:09 AM
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It is sad that the FOP is going to hold a benefit for Detective Joseph
Frugoli who is accused of killing 2 people after driving under the
influence at more than 3 times the legal limit. They should be
holding a benefit for the 2 people he killed and show their
compassion for his victims. However, since this is Chicago,
Detective Joseph Frugoli will probably be allowed to plea to a
misdemeanor under an agreement between either the city or
county and the FOP.
--Navigatr1
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“This involves public safety. Whether it’s a citizen calling for help or
a police officer or firefighter, our job is to send the proper
resources,” he said.
Four men are facing first degree attempted murder charges after
allegedly following the unidentified Marquette District officer
and firing shots into his vehicle shortly after 3 a.m. The officer
reportedly kept driving while returning fire until he reached the
Harrison District station, where he sought help while the alleged
gang members drove off.
When the harrowing chase was over, sources said, the officer had
at least three bullet holes in his car, one of them between the front
and backseat doors on the driver’s side. That likely means one of
the shots narrowly missed hitting the back of the officer’s head.
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Two employees at Chicago’s 911 emergency
center have been slapped with lengthy
suspensions without pay for their roles in an
Aug. 28 dispatch delay that left an off-duty
police officer to fend for himself while being
shot at by a car filled with alleged gang
members.
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reason anyone is being disciplined is because the victim of the
911 system's criminal negligence in this case happens to be one
of the State's armed thugs. If the victim had been one of his
rival gangbangers or an ordinary citizen, there would be no
repercussions at all.
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This is the second death in the small Dekalb
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The visitation room has four partitions, each with a stool, which
is bolted to the floor, and a phone, affixed to the partition,
DeKalb County Sheriff Roger Scott said. The room also has a
video camera.
She did not show signs of suicidal behavior, Scott said, and she
was checked on at least once in the hour before she was found.
The last death in the county jail was May 23, 1995, when
inmate Robert R. Diaz hanged himself, Scott said. The county
was found by the state to be in compliance with jail standards
then, Scott said.
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of any wrongdoing and close the investigation into myself, or
find myself responsible for the crime and send myself a sternly-
worded letter and take a few days off of work as a suspension.
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10-20-2009 01:14 PM
Fucking douchebags.
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This guy was alone in his cell when he "fell" and hit his head
hard enough to kill himself.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...8585#post138585
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Vundering Lawsuits accuse Chicago Police Officer Richard Fiorito of false DUI
Senior Member arrests (IL)
By Noreen S Ahmedullah
April 03, 2009
making 313 DUI arrests between Jan. 1, 2007, and June 6, 2008,
according to the group’s Web site.
In some of the lawsuits, the plaintiffs have also said excessive force
was used against them, including in a suit filed in February, which
alleges Fiorito grabbed Shawn Rauch by the throat in the police
station, shoved him against a wall and called him a slur for a
homosexual.
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The suits -- which allege Fiorito pulls over gay and lesbian drivers
who are not intoxicated, then arrests them for DUI -- also claims
other officers in Fiorito's district questioned the validity of his
arrests, and said he was trying to rack up overtime pay by
appearing in court.
The video showed an arrest on June 21, after the lawsuits were
filed, Andy Thayer of the Gay Liberation Network said at the news
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Radom Road south of the Radom curve while off duty and in his
personal vehicle. The initial 911 call came in to the Jefferson
County Justice Center at 3:15 a.m. on that day, but was
transferred to Washington County when it was determined the
accident happened in that county. Nadolski was transported to
Washington County Hospital for treatment of injuries sustained
in the crash.
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"It's really bad, if you ask me," Delisa Williams, 21, of Cairo,
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"As a law enforcement officer, you want to do the very best you
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Mother-In-Law back in February of this year:
http://www.kfvs.com/Global/story.as...ttype=printable
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09-26-2009 07:47 AM
Navigatr1 I suppose they will have to use bicycles now, but they would
Extended Sabatical probably get those repossessed too. lol. In the mean time they can
use the time honored PPC mode of transportation - Personal
Personnel Carriers commonly know as shoes. Hey maybe they can
apply for JAG monies so they can buy a fleet of PPC's. lmao. The
Registered: Jul 2003 PPC's are needed to help Alexander County Sheriff's Department
Location: fight crime by patroling the streets, and PPC's also come in a
Posts: 31403 stealth version call sneakers.
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The officer cuffed her and placed her in the back of a squad car,
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09-21-2009 03:53 PM
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drunken driver.
Hofstra said she filed her lawsuit in federal court last month
in an effort to have the officer punished for violating her
rights.
She was in the car for about 45 minutes before the situation
was resolved, Hofstra said. The cuffs were too tight,
requiring treatment in the hospital after she was released
from custody, she said.
The lawsuit, filed Aug. 25, gives only a last name for the
officer. Roderick Drew, a spokesman for the police
department, said he was prohibited from identifying the
officer under union rules.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...092109.article#
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09-23-2009 01:58 PM
liberranter All I can say is, heaven help the porko who shows up at Ms.
Super Moderator Hofstra's emergency room requiring emergency surgery. Talk
about pissing in the well you'll one day probably have to drink
out of.
Stupid swinethugs...
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Charge nurse Lisa Hofstra, who sued the City of Chicago and the
officer last month, said the officer, who was not fully named in the
suit, requested that she perform a blood work-up on a woman
suspected of driving under the influence.
Hofstra said the officer handcuffed her and made her sit in a squad
car for 45 minutes after she told him the hospital could not draw
blood until the driver was admitted as a patient.
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The suit, filed in federal court in East St. Louis by the Illinois
Office of State Guardian on behalf of the children, says the
deputies used excessive force and violated the children's rights.
The suit also names Jefferson County, Ill., Sheriff Roger Mulch,
his department and the county.
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And the great mystery among kopskum is why the public should
consider them assholes?
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Navigatr1 Federal lawsuit accuses southern Ill. deputy of using stun gun on 3 kids
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Bowers pushed another boy down on his bunk
and threatened to sodomize him before
shocking him multiple times and causing him
to urinate and defecate, the suit says.
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07-21-2009 03:14 PM
Registered: May 2008 A federal lawsuit filed on behalf of the three boys
Location: claims a Jefferson County sheriff's deputy was
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unprovoked when he shocked them a year ago at
the Southern Thirty Adolescent Center near Mount
Vernon.
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The federal civil suit alleges Deputy David Bowers and Deputy
Lonnie Lawler arrived just before 10:00 p.m. July 4, 2008.
According to court documents, deputies tased three young
boys. However, the lawsuit filed on behalf of the kids alleges
they were not the ones acting out of control. Court papers also
claim deputies hand cuffed, chocked and put a female resident
in a closet. She is also part of the lawsuit. Sheriff Mulch says it's
policy to document and investigate every time a deputy uses
their taser.
"We did not stop there. I had the Department of Children and
Family Services let them open up a case. Told them about the
allegations that the youth had made, as well how we responded
when we made the call up there," Mulch said.
said.
At the time, the children were in the custody of the state. The
Department of Family Services says its policy is that residential
programs report unusual incidents. DCFS would not say if it
conducted an investigation into the claims listed in the court
documents.
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07-22-2009 08:35 PM
GC Marciano quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
We're defending our deputies in this instance,
if anything is uncovered that was above
reproach then it will be addressed
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07-22-2009 08:56 PM
pyo1 quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
Registered: May 2009 Hmmm... threatening to assfuck a young boy
Location: Oklahoma while repeatedly shocking him with a tazer until
Posts: 1565 he pisses and shits himself is not a criminal act
and is "above reproach"?
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07-22-2009 09:07 PM
GC Marciano Here are some quotes from the fedeal lawsuit. Keep in mind
Copwatcher Extraordinaire that sheriff Roger "douchebag" Mulch defends this type of
behavior by his deputies:
quote:
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07-22-2009 09:08 PM
GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by pyo1
A southern Illinois sheriff stands behind his
deputies - You must have missed this part
from this faggot! I wonder why he stands
BEHIND them?
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pyo1 quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
Registered: May 2009 LOL... true. I missed that part. That fucking
Location: Oklahoma homo...
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quote:
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07-22-2009 10:15 PM
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http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_details.php?newsID=3805
"...He had left the scene prior to our officer's arrival," says
Illinois State Police District 13 Captain Michael Irwin.
Curry faces charges of bypassing that stop sign and leaving the
scene. But Irwin says that statement from a witness isn't
enough to confirm the off-duty deputy was driving drunk.
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01-04-2008 05:14 AM
http://www.southernillinoisan.com/a...al/22832131.txt
Even though the motorist who called 911 at 11:55 p.m. Dec. 26
reported a possible intoxicated driver, Irwin said police didn't
have probable cause to charge Curry with driving under the
influence. Because Curry left the scene, no field sobriety or
breathalyzer tests were conducted.
"We are handling the situation just like any other traffic crash,"
Irwin said.
Curry, who has been with the department for nearly 18 years
and is ranked as a sergeant, has been on adminstrative leave
since Dec. 28, Cundiff said. The sheriff said he could not give a
time frame as to when the internal investigation would be
complete, adding that "there are a lot of things to prepare for
that."
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01-06-2008 01:40 AM
Navigatr1 Garnati ‘shocked’ state police did not file DUI charge against cop
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http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...8a956552277.txt
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Location: By JOHN D. HOMAN, THE SOUTHERN
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Friday, January 11, 2008 2:01 PM CST
Garnati said his office will prosecute Curry “just like anyone else”
for DUI.
time. But because Curry was not asked to take breath or field
sobriety tests, Garnati was told by an official with the Secretary of
State’s office that Curry, who was off duty at the time of the
accident, will not have his driver’s license suspended.
“That’s a bad policy and should be changed,” Garnati said. “To me,
running away from the scene of an accident should be the same as
a refusal to take a breathylizer test.”
Not only does Curry face prosecution by the county, Cundiff said,
but he must also go through an administrative procedure or internal
investigation, which is sometimes less forgiving because of the
position he holds.
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01-12-2008 02:16 AM
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01-12-2008 03:05 AM
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=3863&type=top
911: "Alright, I'll see, I'll let them know and see if we
can't get them located."
Witness: "Yes sir, I just called about the drunk driver and
he wrecked his truck- its flipped. We crossed 13, he did
not stop at the stop sign there, like on Norman Road, I
believe. And I can't get to the drivers side."
Now, the driver of that car, off duty Williamson County Deputy,
Shaunn Curry, faces traffic penalties, a DUI and Williamson
County Sheriff Tom Cundiff says, perhaps even stiffer internal
disciplinary action.
Cundiff says Curry will of course maintain his civil rights, but as
a deputy, he also faces the Officer Bill of Rights. That means
he's upheld to the standards set for an officer of the law.
Cundiff says there's another aspect about this case that makes
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01-12-2008 08:07 AM
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_details.php?newsID=3872
Registered: Jul 2003 In a news conference today, State's Attorney Chuck Garnati
Location: Chicago, Illinois said the DUI charge should have been filed from the
Posts: 9967 start. Curry left the scene and ran a stopsign. After their
investigation, that's all state police say they could charge
Shaunn Curry with, following his December 26th accident. Once
Chuck Garnati saw their report on January 7th, he says there
was something missing.
Cundiff says, "He's also a good officer in other ways too. One
aspect doesn't make him good, but the overall does. If you're
asking me to say am I going to fire him or am I going to slap
him on the wrist. I can't say that."
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01-12-2008 10:36 AM
http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=4572&type=top
Curry is accused of leaving the scene after flipping his truck and
running a stop sign. He was charged with DUI later, based on
witness accounts, including a 911 recording.
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04-08-2008 09:36 PM
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=7580501
Registered: Jul 2003 On the evening of December 26th police say Sergeant Shaunn
Location: Chicago, Illinois Curry drove off the right side of Norman Road and rolled his
Posts: 9967 2001 Chevrolet Silverado into a creek bed. But, before the
Illinois State Police could arrive on the scene Curry disappeared.
"The 911 call was from a young man reporting an 'erratic driver'
and he was following the vehicle. During the interview with Mr.
Curry and his attorney it was stated that Mr. Curry did smell of
alcohol. However, at this time we don't have enough probable
cause to establish any further charges."
But, the State Police did charge Sgt. Curry with leaving the
scene of an accident and failure to obey a traffic control device.
"Now he's not been charged with a driving under the influence
charge. However, there's the appearance of that, and I won't
deny it."
"You want that objective look, and we're not afraid to have that.
Anybody can come and take a look at that case. And it is what
it is, and we'll deal with that," Sheriff Cundiff said.
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04-10-2009 12:06 AM
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=7608287
The first call from the witness to the crash describes to the 911
Then just moments later the same caller calls the 911
dispatcher again to inform them that the vehicle just flipped off
the side of the roadway, and that the driver failed to stop at the
stop sign on East Old Main Street before crossing four-lanes of
traffic on Illinois Route 13.
And the Sheriff says that Curry was one of his top officers when
it came to enforcing DUI laws.
"We want to take impaired drivers off the road. And I'll be
honest with you he was one of the best," Cundiff said. "He's one
of the best when it comes to removing impaired drivers."
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04-10-2009 12:07 AM
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=10159939
The man who saw the crash and made a 911 call took the stand
Thursday for the prosecution.
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04-10-2009 12:08 AM
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04-10-2009 03:56 AM
http://www.mariondaily.com/news/x10...rom-one-witness
"All I was doing was using my discretion and there was probable
cause," Garnati said. "I called state police and had them write
the ticket."
The trial will resume within the next two weeks. No continuation
date was set Thursday.
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04-12-2009 05:00 AM
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that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
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04-12-2009 09:39 AM
http://www.mariondaily.com/courts/x...UI?popular=true
"A police officer was not only guilty of DUI, the saddest is what
the judge said," Garnati said. "Curry raised his hand under oath
and what he said was incredible. The judge didn't believe it. It's
sad that a police officer would take the stand and perjure
himself."
Curry said he drank three beers earlier that night at the Marion
Elks Lodge, where he was voted into the club.
Sheriff's deputy John Fleming was the first officer on the scene
after the rollover. At the time of the accident, Curry was one of
the night shift supervisors.
"He said, 'I'm having a bad day. I want out of here. I'm
leaving,'" Fleming said. "I came back up to Norman Rd. and
didn't see Sgt. Curry."
Following the incident, sheriff Tom Cundiff met with Curry and
Drew. Cundiff said the meeting wasn't a formal disciplinary
hearing, but he advised Curry to tell the truth or dismissal
proceedings would begin.
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05-09-2009 01:20 AM
Nope, Howerton is a good person and a "good" cop (If there is such
a thing).
Anyway, I'm glad that this Curry peice of **** was convicted, but
what I read from the story he is not disqualified from being a police
officer again.
05-21-2009 04:32 AM
http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...29768860702.txt
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
MARION -- A Williamson County sheriff's deputy got two years
Posts: 9967 supervised release in court Thursday on a conviction of driving
under the influence.
Garnati said Curry’s conduct threatened his own life and the
lives of others, citing the testimony regarding his erratic driving,
calling Curry the “most dangerous driver on the road that night,
in Williamson County.”
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The bartender filed a police report but Abbate checked himself into
a medical facility so he was not arrested until last week, authorities
said.
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Bystanders looked on, but no one stepped in. No one helped the
woman until she was back on her feet again.
"It's one of the most brutal and savage attacks that I have seen
caught on tape," said David Navarro, a prosecutor in the case.
Abbate had also been arrested for drag racing and driving on a
suspended license.
"Until you told me we did not know he had a prior DUI," Ekl said
to CBS 2's Dave Savini.
The night of the attack Chicago police were called, but when
they arrived Abbate was long gone.
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"I just refused serving him because he got too stupid and too
drunk," said Karolina, 24, who did not wish to use her last name.
Karolina has sent quit bartending.
At 5'4" tall and 115 pounds, Karolina is half the size of police officer
Anthony Abbate, who is 6'1" tall and 250 pounds. Abbate allegedly
went behind the bar, threw Karolina to the ground and then
repeated punched and kicked her. A security camera caught the
attack on tape.
"On the tape, I see myself and him. In my head, I see just him
beating me," said Karolina.
Karolina says she had never met Abbate before and didn't know he
was an off-duty Chicago police officer. She says she had bruises on
her arms, ribcage and legs from the January 19th attack.
"I came and got closer to the guy, and I said, 'Would you please
stop hitting her?' " said Kevin Kelly.
"I just couldn't believe that this large man, who is a Chicago police
officer, who the Chicago Police Department gives gun and badge to
protect people, could engage in that type of conduct," said Terry
Ekl, Karolina's attorney.
"It is one of the most brutal and savage attacks that I have seen
caught on tape," said David Navarro, assistant Cook Co. state's
attorney.
Police say they are investigating the alleged bribe and whether
Abbate received any favorable treatment from police when he was
arrested.
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"I just refused serving him because he got too
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CHICAGO - For the third time this year, surveillance videotape has
surfaced of an off-duty Chicago police officer involved in a bar fight,
authorities said.
Prosecutors were reviewing the new tape and hadn‘t yet decided
whether to file charges, said John Gorman, a spokesman for the
Cook County state‘s attorney‘s office.
Bond would not identify the officer involved or talk about details of
the video.
Cline has said police were called to the bar about the fight but a
sergeant who was among the officers involved waved them off.
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A message left for Hickey at his office Friday was not returned.
Abbate has been placed on leave and police have said they intend
to fire him over the alleged beating, which embarrassed the city
and police department. Police faced intense criticism because
Abbate originally was charged with a misdemeanor, until the
videotape became public.
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As CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman reports, Abbate pleaded not guilty to all
15 counts.
Abbate has been placed on leave and police have said they intend
to fire him over the alleged beating, which embarrassed the city
and police department. Police faced intense criticism because
Abbate originally was charged with a misdemeanor, until the
videotape became public.
"He's pleading not guilty because he is not guilty, and that's what
we expect that at the conclusion of the trial, that's what the
outcome will be," Hickey said.
But Hickey admitted that he had not seen the videotape that shows
the bartender being beaten.
"I haven't seen the tape. I was just given a copy of the tape now,"
Hickey said. "I'll review the tape between now and the next court
date."
Terry Ekl, an attorney for Obrycka, claimed that after the beating,
two of Abbate's friends showed up at the bar and offered her
money for medical bills and lost wages if she agreed not to
prosecute Abbate. A portion of the surveillance video showing them
at the bar was released later.
"He was going to plant drugs in those people's cars in the bar and
to harass patrons coming out and charge them with DUI if she went
forward with her accusations,” Ekl said last month.
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09-18-2007 11:59 AM
As CBS 2's Joanie Lum reports, there have been a couple of closed-
door meetings between Cook County Criminal Court Judge John
Fleming and Peter Hickey, the attorney for the notorious Chicago
cop Anthony Abbate.
The incident happened just over a year ago. Obrycka said she
stopped serving Abbate because he was drunk and combative.
But the fallout went beyond the charges. Initially, police were
criticized for waiting a month to arrest Abbate and originally
charging him only with misdemeanor battery.
Published reports said it drudged up a stereotype the Chicago Police
Department has been trying to shake since officers were seen on
video beating protesters outside the 1968 Democratic National
Convention.
"It's not only cops, I'm sorry, police officers, but any guys that's
hitting you, you're supposed to report it," Obrycka added.
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At one point, Abbate lost his footing, and then quickly lost what
remained of his self-control.
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Bartender beating: Cop convicted in attack of female bartender that
was caught on videotape
Judge rejects officer's claims of self-defense
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"She tried to stop him, and she used reasonable force," Fleming
said of Obrycka, who is 5 foot 3 and 125 pounds. "His own
momentum, with a little help from Karolina Obrycka, caused the
fall. But that did not justify his actions afterward, which were
directly out of proportion."
The video, played repeatedly during the two-day bench trial, shows
the drunken officer go behind the bar after already having been told
to leave by Obrycka. As she pushed and pulled at him, Abbate
appeared to shrug her off. He then suddenly fell or was pulled off
balance, crashing back into the bar, his head bouncing hard off a
shelf support.
Abbate slammed Obrycka against the bar, then violently threw her
to the floor. He repeatedly kicked and punched her on the floor as
she struggled to evade the blows. He held her by one hand as he
took full swings at her head with his right fist.
"Did you feel in danger when she grabbed you from behind, body-
slammed you up against the wall and nearly took you to the floor?"
asked his lawyer, Peter Hickey.
"Were you going to stand there and let her hurt you some more?"
Hickey asked.
"So you felt you were in physical danger from Karolina Obrycka?"
Snow asked.
"Yes, when she threw me against the wall and I hit my head,"
Abbate huffed.
Earlier Tuesday, after the state rested its case, the judge acquitted
Abbate of two counts of official misconduct. The judge cited
testimony by Obrycka that Abbate had never identified himself as a
police officer.
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CHICAGO --
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liberranter Cop Anthony Abbate Gets Probation, No Jail, For Beating Female
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"No one in recent memory ... has done more to tarnish the
reputation of the Chicago Police Department than Anthony
Abbate," Cook County Assistant State's Attorney LuAnn Snow
said Tuesday.
Abbate has been relieved of his duties and pay, Chicago Police
Department spokesman Officer Robert Perez said.
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quote:
Well hell, it would be worth it to go beat the ever living shit out
of officer Abbate (without aggravating factors). It would
definitely be worth a couple years probation...
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MGMAN I hope the next woman this cop beats up, is either the wife, sister
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Bond called the incident "a concern" for Weis, an FBI veteran
chosen to succeed former Superintendent Phil Cline, who
announced his retirement last year amid allegations of excessive
force, barroom brawls involving off-duty officers and a scandal in a
"The Police Board heard all the evidence and found him guilty of his
conduct," Fahy said. "They considered his many, many years as a
police officer. Based on the evidence, they made the right call. He
deserves a second chance."
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Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis said he will review the case against
a police officer who was caught on videotape beating a man
handcuffed to a wheelchair.
Officer William Cozzi, who pleaded guilty to battery for the August
2005 beating, could rejoin the force in little more than two months
after he completes a two-year departmental suspension. The police
unit that investigates police shootings and other complaints of
excessive force sought Cozzi's dismissal.
Randle Miles was being treated for stab wounds at the Norwegian-
American Hospital when he resisted being placed in the wheelchair
according to reports.
Cozzi, who had been dispatched to the hospital to speak with Miles,
allegedly became enraged by his behavior, prosecutors said at the
time.
Cozzi placed the man in handcuffs and said, "Don't move, or I'll
break your [expletive] wrists," prosecutors said after Cozzi's arrest.
Cozzi hit the man 10 times with a small club in the face and torso,
prosecutors said.
Miles sued and eventually won a $125,000 settlement from the city.
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That's f***ing genius. Put a guy who beats people while they're in a
wheelchair and handcuffed back in a position of authority with a
weapon.
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"I was handcuffed and scared for my life," Randle Miles said.
2005 video, and Miles said his memory of that incident never fades.
Cozzi's attorney told the Sun Times his client is remorseful and
wants a second chance.
Previous Story:
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"The burden is upon him to remove these officers from the police
force because they are a burden to the integrity of the process and
they are a threat to security," said Jackson.
It's clear reason for Cozzi to be fired, said Ald. Toni Preckinkle, of
the 4th ward.
"I think there's some conduct that's inexcusable, and this surely
falls into that category," she said.
But Cozzi wasn't fired. Even though the Chicago Police Department
sought his separation from the force, the police board overruled
them, voting only to suspend Cozzi for two years.
"How is it that a person with a gun and a badge is not charged with
something more serious?" he asked.
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A Chicago Police officer has been indicted for allegedly beating a
man who was restrained in a wheelchair.
the release.
Cozzi is not in federal custody and no bond has been set. He will be
arraigned April 9 at 10:30 a.m. before U.S. District Judge Jeffrey
Cole in federal court in Chicago. If convicted, he faces up to 10
years in prison and a $250,000 fine, according to the release.
The indictment does not identify the victim, but the Sun-Times has
identified him as Randle Miles. On the video, Miles does not appear
to be resisting, though he was charged with resisting arrest. He was
60 at the time and being treated for a stab wound.
The video shows Cozzi hitting Miles about 10 times. In 2007, Cozzi
pleaded guilty to misdemeanor battery and got 18 months’
probation.
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By MIKE ROBINSON
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CHICAGO --
"We expect the police officers to serve and protect the public and
not to do the kinds of things you admit you did," U.S. District Judge
Blanche M. Manning said in sentencing the 15-year Chicago Police
veteran to half the time sought by prosecutors.
U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald said Cozzi did not make an error
resulting from a snap decision when he felt his life was on the line.
The July 2005 incident took place after a man was brought to
Norwegian American Hospital in Chicago with stab wounds
apparently inflicted by a female companion. Cozzi was sent to the
hospital to investigate.
Cozzi also admitted he falsely charged the man with attacking him
and two hospital workers. The charges were dropped.
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06-12-2009 07:57 PM
liberranter This piece of pigshit got off easy. If it had been a citizen that
Super Moderator had committed this crime, he would have been looking at a
minimum of fifteen to twenty years.
If there's any justice in this universe, Cozzi will meet the wrong
end of a shiv in prison.
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kingkonghung at least finally there is a prosecuting atty who did the right thing
Junior Member and charged this jackboot. one down several million to go.
06-12-2009 11:20 PM
Spot on, liberranter! The only thing that I can add is that
Cozzi is a lying piece of *******. Any cowardly piece of
swinescat like this asswipe deserves to be the ref in a yard
shiv fight.
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The independent police review authority recommended he should
be fired.
The Chicago Police board says misconduct occurred but that Cozzi
should merely be suspended.
As for Randle Miles, his civil attorney said his client was only
concerned about getting a fair settlement from the city.
"I don't think Randle had any opinion whatsoever of what happened
with this officer," said the attorney.
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Navigatr1 The security guards standing around and watching the beating
Extended Sabatical should have been charged as accessories to the crime.
quote:
quote:
Shows you how corrupt the Chicago police are if they are willing to
look the other way, and protect their own when one of them
commits a crime. They think that they should get special treatment
just because they are a Sworn Officer of the Law. Especially if they
have been on the force for a long time. They think that their
longevity on the force should garner them special treatment by
prosecutors and the courts, which should result in a reduction of
charges or sentence. Let a normal citizen with a clean record do the
same thing, and they will want to throw the book at that person.
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06-22-2009 10:52 AM
"Police officers and the public need to understand that when people
cross the line and assault someone and then lie about it, that has to
be addressed, too. It may not be popular, but we have to do that,"
said Pat Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney.
"I got a message for all those fine officers in blue. After 15 years
don't snap or you'll be thrown under a bus, a federal bus, by your
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Navigatr1 quote:
Extended Sabatical
quote:
"I got a message for all those fine officers in blue. After
15 years don't snap or you'll be thrown under a bus, a
federal bus, by your own superintendent," said Gillespie.
Sounds like the Fraternal Order of Police is corrupt if they think that
they should be treated different than anyone else. The main reason
they think they should be treated different is so that they can keep
their pensions. If the case is prosecuted as a felony, they lose their
pension. They feel that they shouldn't have to lose their pension
after all those years of service they put in when they are convicted
of a crime.
quote:
The above quote is the crux of the matter. If they can plead their
case down to a misdemeanor like Cozzi did in state court, they can
keep their pension. The Fraternal Order of Police think that keeping
one's pension is real justice.
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liberranter Re: So. IL Police Chief beat up by toddlers, requires "several weeks"
Super Moderator off duty:
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liberranter I'm assuming that's his underage boyfriend with him in the
Super Moderator picture.
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One man held the employee at gunpoint while the second man
took money from the bank's cash drawers. They then fled on a
green and black sports-style motorcycle taking with them over
22-thousand dollars in cash. Police say part of the money has
been recovered.
The men are being held at the Jackson County jail, police say
Gaddis is in a jail cell by himself-- to avoid repercussions for his
position as an officer. Bond for Fike has been set at 50-
thousand dollars, Gaddis' is set at one million. Jackson County
State's Attorney, Michael Wepsiec says the men face between 6
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Fike, 35, and Gaddis, 26, are charged with armed robbery,
which State's Attorney Mike Wepsiec alleged was motivated by
money troubles for both men.
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The two men are accused of robbing the First Southern Bank on
Carbondale's west-side last October. The crime that was caught
on surveillance video.
Those same court records also say Anthony Fike alleges that
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(Officer) James Gaddis is alleging that
(neighbor) Anthony Fike threatened the life of
his wife and child unless he went along with
the robbery.
What an idiot.
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“I was the only one in the courthouse,” Sevenski said. “It was
about 4:26 p.m. I was getting ready to step into my office with
“When the SUV struck the courthouse after striking the tree, the
plate-glass window and frame flew into the office, striking the
door and shattering,” she said. “Part of the glass, mud and
debris flew into the office that is shared by the personnel.”
Sevenski said she was badly shaken up following the crash and
immediately called the sheriff’s department.
“We don’t have the reports back yet, but his blood-alcohol
content was very high,” Wilson said. “He was transported to the
Franklin Hospital before being transferred to an Evansville
hospital. We have since learned that his neck may be broken.”
Jones said water to the east side of the courthouse had been
shut off, temporarily.
“The vehicle sheered off the top of the water main,” he said.
“The situation could have been much worse,” Moore said. “It
had the potential for a great loss of life.”
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She's the one who originally called police, hoping officers would
calm down her son after a household argument; never
imagining it would have such consequences.
"Yes I was shocked, and I was mad and I was angry and now I
want revenge. I want these people to lose their jobs and I want
them to never hurt anybody again" cries Sullins.
Sheriff Tom Cundiff runs the Williamson County Jail and claims
the case is simple-- Kirby's lying.
"I think the truth in this case ends where he says he was
injured. He was injured, but it wasn't by us." says Sheriff
Cundiff.
So for now-- while it's clear Kirby was seriously hurt, it's unclear
who's to blame.
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Fox was at the auto pound at 701 N. Sacramento Ave. about 11:40
a.m. Sunday when he was told by the off-duty officer that he was
trespassing and needed to leave, police said. It's unclear why Fox
and the officer were at the pound that day.
Fox refused. When the officer tried to arrest Fox, he resisted, police
The officer suffered scrapes to his right knee and left eye and a
contusion to his forehead, police said. He was taken to a local
hospital for treatment.
Bail for Fox, who runs a limosine service, was set at $25,000 when
he scheduled appeared for a bond hearing today at the Cook
County Criminal Courts building. His next secheduled court
appearance is Mar. 9.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...hicago-cop.html
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Fox was at the auto pound at 701 N.
Sacramento Ave. about 11:40 a.m. Sunday
when he was told by the off-duty officer that
he was trespassing and needed to leave,
police said. It's unclear why Fox and the
officer were at the pound that day.
quote:
So the little bitch cop gets a few minor scrapes and bruises that
wouldn't make my six-year-old grandson cry, but the suspect
gets slapped with $25K bond (and this after the cowardly bitch
cop calls for backup)?
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03-10-2009 01:17 AM
GC Marciano You can "beat up" one of these pansy assed Chicago swine by
Copwatcher Extraordinaire blowing on them.
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It's also a predictable outcome that the copscum, left to fend for
himself like a normal citizen without the "backup" of other Fat Blue
Line Club members, got his ass kicked. Cowards who travel in packs
don't do so well when they are behooved to actually defend
themselves on their own.
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NAME:
David W. Barkett
HOME ADDRESS:
2727 Holbrook Ave.
Cairo, IL 62914
TELEPHONE:
618-734-1048
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02-19-2009 02:51 PM
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Police say Barkett's squad car was parked next to his home on
28th Street in Cairo, but as he backed out, tragedy happened.
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
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"If you refuse our tests, the officer might ask you to do,
whether it be blood or urine or breath, then there are
penalties that go along with that," Trooper David Sneed
said.
Rather than penalize the bad for breaking the law and raising
insurance premiums for everyone, Throgmorton says
responsible drivers should receive bonuses.
"We've had the lowest fatality rates since 1924," Sneed said.
"We're at an 83-year low. Things are getting better," he said.
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05-24-2008 10:00 AM
They took credit again in 2004 when the overall vehicle safety
standards were increased, resulting in a reduced fatality rate.
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Location: Peoples Rebublik of Mr Officer, The US Constitution is NOT just a formality, or something to sidestep!
Georgia When your butt is on the line the first thing you do is scream about “due process”
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Navigatr1 quote:
Extended Sabatical
The line between public information and privacy was the court
house since people had to physically travel to the court house. Now
most of that information can be obtained on the web without
traveling to the court house.
Since the right to privacy has been all but obliterated by the courts
and the politicians in the name of public safety, sobriety
checkpoints are perfectly legal. We live in a police state where we
value public safety more than a person's right to privacy here in
Amerika.
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05-24-2008 08:25 PM
MGMAN I just thought I would post this. According to what I have been
Senior Member reading DRIVING IS A RIGHT!!!!
Legislators, police officers, and court officials are being made aware
that there are court decisions disproving the opinion that traveling
is a privilege that requires government approval.
Registered: Jan 2008 "Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to
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Georgia course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be
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regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience."
Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 22.
"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to
transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile,
is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a
common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.
This means that the beliefs and opinions of our state legislators, the
courts, and those of us involved in the law enforcement profession
have acted upon for years have been in error. Researchers armed
with actual facts state that U.S. case law is overwhelming. To
restrict in any fashion the movement of the individual American, in
free exercise of the right to travel upon the roadways (excluding
commerce, which the state legislatures are correct in regulating), is
a serious breach of those freedoms secured by the U.S.
Constitution, as well as most state constitutions.
Our system of law dictates that there is only one way to remove a
right belonging to the people. That is by a person knowingly
waiving a particular right.
Every police officer should keep the following U.S. court ruling in
mind before issuing citations:
Reprinted from a special edition of "Aid and Abet" bulletin #11, P.O.
Box 8787, Phoenix, AZ. 85066, by Officer Jack McLamb.
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05-25-2008 03:02 AM
photoman U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966) & Shapiro v Thompson,
Senior Member 394 U.S. 618 (1969)
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Location: Under your bed... precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted,
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"It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly
recognized."
10-20-2008 12:35 PM
Registered: Aug 2006 This is extended to anyone that does not posses a IL DL - no matter
Location: Under your bed... if you live in the state of IL or not!
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If you don't "buy in" to the system they can in no way force a test,
so this is false information the ISP is putting out and could be
considered criminal!
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The district court judge who convicted Mette ruled that the officer
had options other than hitting Gothard, including walking away,
trying to talk to Gothard or calling the police.
"Is it logical to think in the heat of the moment that Mr. Mette
should stop and talk to Mr. Gothard?" McCormick asked. "That is
out of the realm of reality."
The attorney for the state, Linda Hines, argued that Mette could
have avoided the fight but instead chose to hit Gothard.
"The court found he had other options," she said. "He was pushed.
He hit back. He hit so hard that Mr. Gothard was knocked
unconscious and fell backward.
was nice to see the show of support from her son's fellow officers.
"There's nothing any of us can do. They believe in Michael and the
only way they could show their support was to travel here today,"
she said.
Patricia Mette said her son calls her once a week and that she and
her husband, who was a Chicago police officer for 32 years, travel
to see their son once a month.
"There's nothing I can do, so I'm there for him when he needs me,"
she said. "We take it one day at a time and hope for the best."
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09-12-2008 10:27 AM
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The appeals court ruling sends the case back to district court for
acquittal.
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10-01-2008 01:46 PM
quote:
Does any sane person with an IQ on the plus side of zero think
that this court would have made an identical ruling in an
identical case if the appellant was a mere citizen?
Fuck the Iowa appeals court and every last one of its corrupt
"justices!"
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10-01-2008 03:05 PM
10/8/2008
Thank you"
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
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Navigatr1 Chicago cop Gerald Callahan accused of attacking two people at Niles
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common folk, the other for the "People in power." Cops can beat old
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They said Callahan attacked the two alleged victims for no apparent
reason, fled the scene, and was arrested about 40 minutes later.
A man who answered the phone at the only published listing for a
Gerald Callahan in Chicago said Sunday that he was not a police
officer.
The incident is not the first time Callahan’s behavior has come
under fire. In 2006, then-Superintendent Phil Cline tried to have
him fired for an incident two years earlier in which he allegedly
threatened several other police officers. But the police board
rejected Cline’s recommendation.
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05-20-2008 01:52 PM
"I feel that I have my arms around the situation. I know alcohol to
me is poison," a transcript of the hearing quoted Callahan as
saying. "You know, I made mistakes in my past, which I regret, but
nevertheless I think given the opportunity to go back, I can
definitely be a useful member of this department."
The bartender, Joseph McAleer, and bar patrons called the police to
report Callahan was drunk and dangerous. Callahan then arrested
McAleer.
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Police alleged that Callahan, who was off duty at the time, attacked
a man and his female friend about 2:30 a.m. Saturday for no
reason as they were sitting in the lounge.
into a bar. Callahan said he pushed the man and left the restaurant,
worrying about how it would look for another Chicago police officer
to be involved in an altercation at a bar.
After his arrest, Callahan said, he was bit on the leg by a Niles
police dog and that police denied him medical treatment and access
to medication while he was in custody.
Callahan "can say that ***s can fly," Niles Police Sgt. Robert
Tornabene said of his accusations of police mistreatment and
version of the confrontation. "He can make all the accusations he
wants. He has not made a formal complaint."
jnapolitano@tribune.com
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05-22-2008 08:04 AM
Niles police say the 42-year-old officer attacked the two victims for
no apparent reason, fled the scene and was arrested about 40
minutes later.
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
states) > ILLINOIS > Chicago cop Barbara Nevers suspended for demanding free
Starbucks (IL)
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Nevers' attorney says her client never used her job to demand
coffee. She says some coffeehouses gave it to her for free because
she was an officer.
08-08-2008 01:23 PM
huckabuck001 Any ordinary citizen doing this sort of thing would have been
Senior Member charged with ARMED robbery, and would be looking a 20 years in
PRISON!!! A cop does it, they slap 'em on the wrist, and give 'em a
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Over the years, cops have ripped off drug dealers, shaken down
drivers and pocketed mob bribes.
But Nevers -- a desk officer for most of her 14-year career because
of a neck injury she suffered in the police academy -- would usually
come into Starbucks in plain clothes.
She regularly flashed her gun, and sometimes her badge, to get
free coffee at Starbucks near her home, including stores at 3358 N.
Broadway, 2525 1/2 N. Clark, 617 W. Diversey, 1000 W. Diversey,
1700 W. Diversey and 1157 W. Wrightwood, employees said.
"She was vehement about getting the free pastries," testified Cara
Carothers, who managed the store at 1700 W. Diversey. "This
woman is aggressive."
Nevers' attorney Tom Needham told the board "My client took
advantage of a custom. She's not the only police officer that's been
offered coffee." But a city attorney said it's against police policy for
officers to accept such freebies.
Nevers claimed she always put a $2 tip in the jar whenever she got
a free cup of joe and denied ever flashing her gun or asking for free
pastries for herself.
"I said, 'If you have any broken pastries or ones that you toss out, I
will take them because I feed the birds,' " Nevers told the board.
In June, five members of the police board found her guilty of retail
theft, using her position for official gain, unnecessary display of a
weapon, mistreatment of a person and other offenses. They voted
for Nevers' 15-month suspension and counseling.
08-08-2008 03:51 PM
It's maybe the last great perk a beat cop can get.
But there's another unwritten rule: Cops can't demand the free
stuff. And that's just what officials say Chicago Police Officer
Barbara Nevers did, demanding free coffee and pastries from a half-
dozen Starbucks stores over the years, until she was banned from
one of the java joints and a memo was sent to other stores.
"There's a few sitting right here," Julie Paterno said as she watched
them munch on chicken-fried steak.
"At night, you don't know the people around, so it is good for them
to be here, eating my food," said Dimas, who has owned the place
for more than 30 years. There are some officers who don't accept
his freebies because their bosses don't like it, and some officers he
doesn't know and thus doesn't offer the discount, he said.
"If they feel comfortable with us, we feel comfortable with them
and appreciate what they do," he said.
"She was vehement about getting the free pastries," the manager
testified.
Several employees said most officers who come in are friendly and
always offer to pay before being told that it is on the house. But
Nevers was unprofessional, they said, and rarely talked with
employees before demanding free coffee. Her actions made even
other officers who went to the Starbucks suspicious, believing she
could be a police impersonator, one employee testified.
Nevers joined the force when she was 41 but after an injury in
training spent most of her time off the street at "call-back," where
officers write reports and handle calls. She denied that she
demanded coffee or flashed her gun to intimidate the employees,
and said she only took free coffee when offered.
"I don't demand anything," Nevers told the Police Board, adding
that she always put $2 in a tip jar when she was offered free coffee.
Her attorney said Nevers was only accepting what had been a
custom in Chicago.
It's a custom that's not likely to change any time soon, rules or no
rules. At the Golden Angel on Thursday, Paterno tallied up the bill
she'd given the two police officers who stopped by—$6, after the 50
percent discount. The cops didn't forget their waitress, though.
08-08-2008 03:55 PM
Never try to keep a female swine from her dozen sinkers and her
java--or to actually demand that she pay for same, as that might
diminish her sense of entitlement. Bet she's a real porker, too!
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
states) > ILLINOIS > Pastor Daryl Bujak, A Former Cop, Charged w/ Beating 13 yr Old
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The girl's mother and the accused relative agreed to the discipline,
which involved Bujak allegedly spanking the girl repeatedly with a 3-
foot by 2-inch piece of wood molding on Wednesdays before church
services from March to May 2005, Turner said.
"He told them flat-out what he was going to do," Turner said.
"She always lied a lot, so when she said these things about Matt,
her credibility was already damaged," the mother said. "She could
have easily been lying about this, as well."
The mother said that the first time they met with Bujak he told
them he was a former police officer and had worked with "tons of
molested teens."
The girl suffered bruises and welts to the back of her legs and
buttocks. Bujak, who turned himself in on Wednesday, was charged
with one misdemeanor count of battery.
Bujak also told Resh that he should spank the girl, the girl's mother
said. Resh, 33, of 26445 W. Route 134, Apt. 6, Ingleside, was
charged Monday with five counts of predatory criminal sexual
assault of a child. Resh is a former member of the Richmond Plan
Commission.
Bujak would spank the girl once a week and Resh would spank her
more often, the mother said.
The mother said she notified police in October of the alleged sexual
abuse. "Now I'm like, what did I put my daughter through."
"He definitely loves his kids and he's a loving father, and he
wouldn't do anything to hurt children," said Barrett, 18.
Barrett, who was unaware of the charges, said Bujak was well-liked
among children at a week-long Bible camp he attended in the
summers.
"He's probably one of the most popular people with the kids,"
Barrett said.
"We know the kids, the wife, everyone," she said. "It is a nice
family."
Bujak posted $500 of a $5,000 bond and was released, police said.
He is scheduled to appear in court at 9 a.m. June 16 in Elgin.
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05-12-2006 06:35 PM
chitownbrian I went to the churches web site at: www.fmbc.net to see what it
Senior Member says about beating little girls with pieces of wood, but found no
information about that. I sent Pastor/Former Cop/Defendant Daryl
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05-12-2006 06:38 PM
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chitownbrian I guess Pastor Pervert got upset with all the visitors to his churches
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ELGIN –" A 13-year-old Richmond girl who
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sexual abuse, police said Thursday."
That's a quote from the newspaper. They are quoting the Po-leece
in Elgin, IL. You are quick to jump on this website and say we are
lying about your son. Did you go to the Elgin PD and make a similar
claim against them? According to the paper, your son, the accused,
is a former cop. True or false? Just curious. His former occupation is
what lead me to believe he is guilty as charged. Most cops I have
met have been thieves, liars and sexual predators. If your son is
truely innocent, my heart goes out to him. There just seems to be a
big segment of police officers or religious types involved in sexual
abuse cases, and your son apparently falls into both lists!
10-24-2006 11:24 PM
I can't help but feel sympathy for you for two primary reasons:
1) You spent many years raising your son, Daryl, only to have
him throw his life away by becoming a cop - a job that requires
no education, skill, talent or morals. It must have been crushing
when he made the announcement to you. He later made a
career change from cop to preacher, another con-artist "career".
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Posts: 9967 son was a worthless parasite who made a career of mooching
from that taxpayers that he screwed over on a daily basis and
then as a preacher who lived off of the hard-earned money
collected from his brainwashed followers, you learned that he
was under arrest for beating a yound girl - a victim of sexual
abuse.
Boy that's rough. With any luck your son will be sentenced to
many years in a secure prison where he can obtain a productive
job in prison industries, giving him something to do between
the daily ass-rapings and vicious beatings that he (as a former
cop) is certain to receive.
Sincerely,
- A man who feels your pain.
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10-25-2006 02:45 AM
quote:
Bujak also told Resh that he should spank the girl, the
girl's mother said. Resh, 33, of 26445 W. Route 134,
Apt. 6, Ingleside, was charged Monday with five counts
of predatory criminal sexual assault of a child. Resh is a
former member of the Richmond Plan Commission.
Why would your son tell Resh that he should also spank the girl?
Did your son feel the girl was lying, and that spanking would
somehow bring the truth out? Since both were spanking the girl,
there could be some question as to who left the welts. However, 30
to 40 times is a lot of spanks at one sitting with a board. I don't
know of any parent, who in their right mind, would allow their child
The article later on states that the girls mother reported the alleged
sexual abuse to the police. She reported it after she came to her
senses, and realized that her daughter was now being physically
abused too. Hopefully the police will get to the bottom of things in
their investigation. Do you think that the police should spank your
son with a board in order to get him to tell the truth just like he
spanked that girl?
--Navigatr1
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10-25-2006 10:45 AM
I don't know of any pastor who is a real man of God who would
even consider the idea of spanking a child with a board. Given
Bujak's history (i.e., starting out his adult life as a cop), I would
be skeptical, at best, of his credentials or sincerity as a man of
the cloth. However, I know of several pastors who in their
previous lives were drug addicts, alcoholics, or gangbangers so
I suppose it's possible for a cop to make a miraculously
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Do you think that the police should spank your son with a
board in order to get him to tell the truth just like he
spanked that girl?
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10-25-2006 11:33 AM
I'll bet you'll feel a lot of stupid when he's found guilty.
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10-25-2006 04:17 PM
I do not know of any one who would allow a pastor to spank a child
either. I also do not know of a pastor who would spank a child and
call it council.
The allegations of spanking by the pastor is just what they ARE,
allegations.
You are getting all riled up over some woman's allegations of which
you said yourself is a weak-willed idiot does not havea
functioning brain stemandshould face criminal charges.
usually CRIMINALS! Those who talk bad of the police talk bad of
justice with crooked wooden nickles in their pocket.
You sound like a well informed person. You sould like you read and
belive everything you read too. Let me ask you a question.
How can you get so hot, angry, hostile over what a person says
who does not have a functioning brain stem?
I am over 50. I can say what I want now. I earned this. It would
seem to me you have less of a brain stem as her since you believe
a brainstemless person over a man who wanted to be a policeman
and committed his life to serve God. Do you know how many
members he has in his church? He works for less than minimum
wage! He is not in it for money, He sure is not in it for POWER, not
enough members. lol
AND he sure is not in it for GLORY!
Think of that. and please read my other posts.
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In my life time the COP HATERS are usually
CRIMINALS! Those who talk bad of the police talk
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I'm over 50 also and I have seen quite a bit in my life the cops of
old were peace keepers but that's not the case today now it's all
about power and most of them are as crooked as a dogs hind leg.
That serving God stuff don't cut any ice with me.
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Sincerely,
Sincerely,
- A man who feels your pain.
There are a whole lot more good police than bad ones. There are a
whole lot more good preachers than bad ones.
A real man does not belittle a granny of 9 either. They respect old
ladies.
I have heard of rap music. Oh yes, I have, but I never heard of rap
music coming from the arsh, unless of course you are talking about
hot air of which it seems to me you, Mr. Man, are full of---- the rap
and all.
People who talk bad about Police are criminals or anti justice.
There are bad apples wherever you look in all walks of life. Mr. Man
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10-25-2006 09:34 PM
How come I got spit on when I returned from Viet Nam, I guess I
didn't stand for good. Lay off the granny cop out I'm old too
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Originally posted by GC505
She loves cops.
Registered: Oct 2006 Except the ones that arrested her son for brutally
Location: Deming,NM beating a victim of sexual abuse.
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Makes a lot of sense...
With any luck she will have an encounter with the Gestapo and
have her head slammed in to the hood of a car , with anyluck it will
knock some sense into her granny backside
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10-25-2006 10:36 PM
Please re-read the post 3 times, turn around, and ask yourself what
being spit on after Nam has to do with this?
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I can see you're not very bright because you come up with some
really lame metaphors
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10-25-2006 10:38 PM
You must be brain dead I was making a point These were your
words "Real men do not hate those that stand for good."
Wake up Granny
You are about right there is no point in arguing with an idiot male
or female and you most certainly are an idiot.
You must be some kind of a hybrid suidae artiodactyla since you
love them so much.
Figure that word out Einstien. I guess I should said Granny Einstien
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10-25-2006 10:46 PM
I will change my tune and agree with you: The cops are the
good guys and they serve and protect us. -- Case in point: They
arrested and prosecuted your criminal son Daryl after he was
caught viciously and repeatedly beating a young vicim of sexual
abuse.
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The analogy turns the truth on its head: in the field of policework,
the good apple is the rarity, not the bad apple.
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10-26-2006 12:41 AM
liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
It's obvious from the utter incoherence of your rant that you are
beyond the stage of "distraught mother", which, given the sheer
odiousness of your son's circumstances, is somewhat
understandable.
Were I not the patient and understanding sort of guy that I am,
I would probably by now be thinking to myself, maybe even out
loud:
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10-26-2006 02:50 AM
Heidi Magdalena Re: Re: Re: Re: Police and Real Men
Junior Member
quote:
Real men or women do not spit on those that served our country. It
still has nothing to do with the subject which is "honoring the police
and standing for justice."
Repeating again.
1. "Real men do not hate those that stand for good." and
correctly said by you.
2. There is no point in arguing with an idiot
3. Name calling is not constructive in good conversation.
4. I did not write comments in here to argue.
The name calling from your heart is your way of feeling better
about yourself. Putting others down gives you power. I will not fall
into it with you, Pat. Get a life other than mocking others, name
calling, bashing and ridicule.
It appears to me that is all you do in your posts.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/imag.../fightdirty.gif
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10-26-2006 01:23 PM
You made her sound as though she is "not all there." Do you
usually believe people that are "not all there?"
In essence, that is what I said. Why am I called delusionsal and
neurotic for saying that?
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10-26-2006 01:42 PM
Heidi Magdalena the good apple is the rarity, not the bad apple.
Junior Member
Iagree and futhermore it is true in all walks of life. Sad huh?
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10-26-2006 01:54 PM
pat8942 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Police and Real Men
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[QUOTE][i]
There is no point in arguing with an idiot[/B]
I wasn't calling you a name I was stating an observation
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10-26-2006 02:16 PM
Heidi Magdalena Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Police and Real Men
Junior Member
Registered: Oct 2006 LOL ... Do you think you can turn your observational binoculars
Location: Seattle around to where you are looking thru the little lens instead of the
Posts: 12 big ones? LOL
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10-26-2006 02:23 PM
GC Marciano After reading the mindless stupidity and droning nonsense that
Copwatcher Extraordinaire Heiny spews in her posts, it's becoming increasingly clear why
her kid turned out to be a worthless, child abusing dickhead.
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Originally posted by liberranter
Spot on, GC!
Registered: Oct 2006 Why waste server space on giving Heidi and her
Location: Deming,NM son any more undeserved attention?
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I agree
I'm not going to waste any more time responding to her
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10-26-2006 04:13 PM
Ok, I'll just start from the beginning and work my way down.
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 88 quote:
Ok, so you come here, call us idiots and five posts later you get
your panties in a bunch because we call you a idiot. Might want to
get your priorities straight lady.
quote:
Heidi Mag
There are a whole lot more good police than bad
ones. There are a whole lot more good preachers
than bad ones.
A real man does not belittle a granny of 9 either.
They respect old ladies.
People who talk bad about Police are criminals or
anti justice.
If you want respect, you earn it. You sure in the hell don't earn it
comming here calling us idiots then bitching when we return the
favor. Its called equil lib, your generation burnt thier bra'a and
panties wanting to be treated equal, now you got to deal with it.
quote:
Heidi Mag
Real men or women do not spit on those that
served our country. It still has nothing to do with
the subject which is "honoring the police and
standing for justice."
Repeating again.
1. "Real men do not hate those that stand for
good." and
correctly said by you.
2. There is no point in arguing with an idiot
3. Name calling is not constructive in good
conversation.
4. I did not write comments in here to argue.
quote:
Heidi Mag
Is this a name calling, bashing site?
Panties are still in a bunch. Not sure which crack sucked them up,
but you might want to pull them loose.
10-26-2006 04:50 PM
GC Marciano quote:
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Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
Real men do not hate those that stand for
good.
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10-26-2006 05:31 PM
Registered: Jul 2003 In my life time the COP HATERS are usually
Location: CRIMINALS! Those who talk bad of the police talk bad
Posts: 31403 of justice with crooked wooden nickles in their pocket.
Interesting how you come here telling us that your son allegedly
committed this crime, and then tell us that we are cop haters and
criminals. Wouldn't that be alleged cop haters and alleged
criminals by your logic? We are not cop haters; although, there are
some who do hate them because of how they were treated by the
cops. Not all here have criminal records either.
I agree with you that your son has allegedly committed this crime.
We won't know until after the investigation is done, and any
charges are filed. Even if charges aren't filed, it still doesn't mean
that he did not commit the crime. It just means that there wasn't
enough evidence for the prosecutor to file charges.
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Originally posted by Navigatr1
I agree with you that your son has allegedly
committed this crime. We won't know until
after the investigation is done, and any
charges are filed. Even if charges aren't filed,
it still doesn't mean that he did not commit
the crime. It just means that there wasn't
enough evidence for the prosecutor to file
Registered: Jul 2003 charges.
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10-26-2006 11:22 PM
chitownbrian Heidi:
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I am at a loss to figure you out. You claim that your son is totally
Registered: Nov 2004 innocent of the crimes which he has been charged with. Fine, I can
Location: Chicago area relate to that, but then in the next breath, you are singing the high
Posts: 103 praises of cops!
Well who the hell arrested and falsely charged and fabricated the
evidence against your son if it wasn't the cops?!?! Pick your side
woman, someone in the game is a lying, criminal piece of s***.
Who is it, your son or the cops? I think it is time you wake up and
realize that many, many cops are criminals, and will stop at nothing
to further their career, and arresting and charging the innocent are
certainly not outside the daily activity of any given police
deparment, let alone a crime infested dump commonly refered to as
the Elgin Police Department.
10-26-2006 11:42 PM
You are correct. I noticed that after I posted and read the article
again. I got busy posting in another area afterwards, and wasn't
able to get back to this thread.
Since charges have been filed against him, it's a matter of waiting
for the trial date to see if he is convicted of those charges or pleas
down to lessor charges. In the meantime, it is still alleged that he
committed this crime of child abuse.
--Navigatr1
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Heidi Magdalena "It would be nice to post that information if it was available. "
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Yes it is available.
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10-27-2006 04:55 PM
The man, Mr. Resh, her step father, the molestor, brought
her to Mr. Bujak.
The whole has not been told. It is not good to judge a matter
until all the facts are in and thus far no facts have been even
established or presented.
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Originally posted by GC505
I think Im gonna pay a visit to Mr. Bianchi's
office.
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Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
He never beat the girl
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10-27-2006 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
<cut>
What is wrong with a person starting out adult
Registered: Aug 2005 life wanting to be a policeman? ie (cop)
Location: Directly behind you
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quote:
quote:
They accept the pay so they should accept the risks without all the
squealing and whining. We do not owe them jack!
Yes, they have to watch their back because in general, they are
thugs, IMHO. Indeed, they should watch their back because if they
come up against a 'stand up guy' and law abiding citizen, they are
in for a world of pain both during their thuggery and later in court.
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because you possess the inalienable right to free speech. You do
not 'earn' it with age or experience, it is a right of all humans that
can not be taken nor given away (but it can be loaned).
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Once again, that is your opinion. I have acutally found the opposite
to be true (MY opinion). Most of the criminals I have met and
known 'suck up' to the swine to keep out of trouble. The rest of us
law abiding and free people speak our minds and call thugs thugs;
badge or not.
BTW: If you want to check my pockets for 'wood', just let me know.
quote:
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He works for less than minimum wage! He is not
in it for money, He sure is not in it for POWER, not
enough members. lol
AND he sure is not in it for GLORY!
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10-28-2006 07:07 AM
I do not know about the laws in your state, but in mine, we pastors
are required by law to report any evidence or allegations of abuse.
You seem to want to lay all the blame at the feet of the mother and
none at the feet of your lil ex-oinker.
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10-28-2006 02:21 PM
Registered: Jun 2005 Not that he probably would have respected/followed it even if
Location: Tucson, AZ he HAD known about it.
Posts: 5865
The more I think about it, the more fortunate the city of Elgin is
that this guy was arrested and is facing criminal charges. If he's
found guilty and sent away, his congregation will probably be
spared the tragedy of having another Jim Jones as their
"shepherd." I mean, can you think of a more dangerous
creature than one who is a cross-breed of cop and Baptist
preacher? Talk about a combination fo two professions that feed
on megalomania! There's no telling what this guy would have
done had he not been caught.
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remenants of my 'street' background and the places I find myself
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The Rev. Daryl Bujak is set to face a jury starting Sept. 29, in
what is expected to be up to a three-day trial in Kane County
Judge Allen Anderson's courtroom.
The McHenry County girl first came to Bujak, a pastor at the First
Missionary Baptist Church, in March 2005, and said she had been
sexually abused on several occasions.
His attorney has argued Bujak was not required to report the
alleged abuse, a case being handled in McHenry County, because
he would violate the clergy's confidentiality privilege.
The case is back in court again Sept. 25, where attorneys on both
sides are expected to argue any pretrial motions.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/print/?id=214353
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Police said the Rev. Daryl Bujak struck the girl hard enough to
cause bruises and welts after she was brought to him for counseling
because her mother doubted the claims.
Officials said they believe the girl's allegations of sexual abuse, and
this week authorities in McHenry County charged a 33-year-old man
with abusing her from September 2003 until March 2005.
"It's unbelievable," said Lt. Mike Turner. "It's a sad case for this
girl."
"I feel terrible," said the mother. "I feel like a heel. I didn't know."
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Officials said they believe the girl's allegations of sexual abuse are
true.
Yet the Rev. Daryl Bujak, the pastor of the First Missionary Baptist
Church, struck the girl -- then 12 years old -- hard enough to cause
bruises and welts on her legs and buttocks, according to Elgin
police.
"It's unbelievable," said Lt. Mike Turner of the alleged beatings that
occurred in counseling sessions after the girl was brought to Bujak
because the mother, too, doubted her daughter. "It's a sad case for
this girl."
Child welfare advocates were angry at both Bujak and the mother.
"When a kid gets up the courage after being sexually abused to tell
a parent, that means that is a cry for help," said Cook County Public
Guardian Robert Harris, whose office deals with children who have
been abused. "They won't say help anymore if they are taught that
when you say help you might get punished, you might get beaten
for it."
"My sense is it will be hard for this child to easily trust another adult
for some time," he said.
The mother said if she could do things differently, she would have
listened to her daughter and believed her -- instead of taking her to
Bujak, her family's pastor at the time.
"I feel terrible," said the mother. She recalled that Bujak, who met
with the girl between March and May of last year, told her that the
girl had admitted to him that she was lying. "I feel like a heel. I
didn't know."
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The teen told the Elgin Courier-News that her mother's consent left
her wondering whether the pastor's actions were wrong.
The girl was 12 when prosecutors say she was beaten with a piece
of wood molding during counseling sessions after she accused a
relative of sexually abusing her.
The Rev. Daryl Bujak of the First Missionary Baptist Church has
been charged with misdemeanor battery in the case.
Authorities say Bujak and the child's mother both believed she was
lying, but a man has since been charged with abusing the girl.
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To discuss the situation with anyone else, the girl must receive
permission from Chmiel or her attorney.
Days later, Elgin Police charged the Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, of First
Missionary Baptist Church in Elgin, with battery for spanking the girl
with a piece of wood molding when he did not believe her stories
about Resh.
Chmiel also ruled that the victim and her three siblings were to be
wards of the court, which could allow Chmiel to take the children
out of their mother's home and place them in foster care.
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“It alarmed me, but I didn’t think Matt would be that way,” the
mother said Thursday.
The mother and Resh took the girl to her Elgin pastor, who agreed
that she was lying after speaking with her alone for about two
hours. The Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, pastor at First Missionary Baptist
Church, suggested corporal punishment, which the girl’s mother
said was part of church philosophy.
So Resh beat her with his hand, a piece of wood, or a plastic strip a
couple of times a week for about a month, the mother said
Thursday.
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"I was confused and angry," she said in an interview, which was
conducted with her mother's permission. "I was frustrated. I was
like 'Why are they doing this to me? Why me?' "
Within days last week, the girl's relative, Matthew Resh, 33, of
Ingleside, was charged with predatory criminal sexual assault of a
child, and the girl's former pastor, the Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, of
First Missionary Baptist Church in Elgin, was charged with battery
for spanking the girl to discipline her for telling what he believed to
be lies.
After the girl's mother and Bujak didn't believe the girl when she
tried to talk about the sexual assaults, Bujak asked permission to
begin spanking her with a piece of wood molding, police said.
Between March and May 2005, Bujak spanked the girl at the church
every Wednesday before services, police said. According to the
victim and her mother, Matthew Resh also spanked the girl nightly
during the same time period.
The girl said she dreaded the Wednesday nights at church, which
she said typically included 45 minutes of counseling with Bujak and
15 minutes of spanking.
"He just said stuff about why it is not right to say that stuff and
asked me why I did it," the girl said. "Then he would spank me. ...
He would say 'stand still,' and he often asked me 'you know I still
love you, right?' "
The girl suffered bruises and welts to the back of her legs and
buttocks, police said.
The girl's mother and her children stopped attending the church last
fall, after prosecutors began to investigate Resh, she said.
comment Wednesday.
The girl, who admitted that her own counseling had been successful
so far, said she had learned valuable lessons from the last few
years.
"I learned that I need to just keep telling people even if nobody is
believing me," the girl said. "I need to speak up for what I know is
right."
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The Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, counseled the alleged victim for
months after she accused Richmond resident Matthew Resh, 33, of
sexual assault, and was regularly spanking her with a board, Elgin
police said.
Because her parents believed that the girl was lying about the
abuse, police have said that Bujak was beating her every week
before Wednesday night services at First Missionary Baptist Church
as a punishment.
"They would dismiss the authority of the state," said Bowers, who
studies the history of American religions. "The state is the enemy,
though not in necessarily that stark of terms."
Bujak was charged with misdemeanor battery, but he has not been
charged with willfully violating the state's reporting requirement,
which also would be a misdemeanor offense.
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To discuss the situation with anyone else, the girl must receive
permission from Chmiel or her attorney.
Days later, Elgin Police charged the Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, of
First Missionary Baptist Church in Elgin, with battery for spanking
the girl with a piece of wood molding when he did not believe her
stories about Resh.
Chmiel also ruled that the victim and her three siblings were to be
wards of the court, which could allow Chmiel to take the children
out of their mother's home and place them in foster care.
Resh is free on $20,000 bond, and Bujak posted $500 bond. Both
men are next expected in court in June.
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Navigatr1 Note: This address isn't confirmed and was found via public records.
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Could someone please get the court records on this case? Bujak's
case has apparently been moved to Kane County. The information
is a matter of public record, which should be posted here.
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"Rachelle is a hero, and the jury knew it," said Christopher R.
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"Officer Brogan's attempt to jail a woman who rescued her and the
detectives that encouraged Brogan to do so reflects the integrity of
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representing Rachelle. "Peoples' rights can be, are, and will be
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Jackson was accused of the theft. She was charged and spent more
than 10 months in the Cook County Jail awaiting trial. Her case was
later thrown out by a judge and Jackson sued the city of Chicago.
Defense attorney Andrew Hale said the amount the jury awarded
Jackson was "excessive."
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During Murphy's 17-year career with the village, four other officers
were named as defendants in two federal lawsuits. For three of
those officers, the cases are still pending.
Police Chief Jim Ryan did, however, emphatically state that not a
single complaint has been filed with the department against Murphy
since Aug. 4, 2003 when Ryan took over as chief. Though the
incident that is the basis of the indictment occurred two days into
Ryan's tenure, the police chief said the alleged victim in the case,
Sidney Hooks, never brought his concerns to the police department.
In February 2004 Hooks filed suit against the village and Murphy.
That case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum.
"Usually lawyers won't take the cases where somebody's just trying
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"We absolutely plan to fight each and every one of these pending
cases," Sturino said. "We believe they're without merit and we will
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"I don't want to discuss trial strategy," Halprin said. "You'll hear all
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In that case, Halprin squared off against prosecutors from the U.S.
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Indicted cop hires a shark
Sgt. Mike Murphy enlists defense attorney from blockbuster trial
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"I don't want to discuss trial strategy," Halprin said. "You'll hear all
that in my opening statements."
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12/20/2007 4:40:00 PM
Commissioner to host benefit for indicted cop
Council members generally supportive of effort to fund criminal
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The money raised will help pay for Sgt. Mike Murphy's legal defense
against a pair of felony criminal charges stemming from a beating
the officer allegedly carried out on a homeless man while he was on-
duty in August of 2003. Murphy has not been allowed to return to
work since the October indictment was handed down, but he is still
receiving a paycheck.
"I don't think so," Hosty said. "If you had a friend falsely accused of
something, wouldn't you help him out?"
The village of Forest Park has not been named as a party in the
case. In 2004 the village paid a $50,000 settlement to Sidney
Hooks, the alleged victim, when Hooks sued the municipality and
Murphy.
"I'm inclined to go, as much to learn about Mike Murphy and the
situation he's in," Tellalian said.
Hoskins said he will be out of town on the date of the event and
"may or may not make a donation."
Murphy, 42, is free on bond. A trial has not yet been scheduled for
the 17-year police veteran.
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12-26-2007 09:09 AM
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A Forest Park police officer who faced federal felony charges that he
beat a man in 2003 and lied about it on a police report pleaded
guilty to one misdemeanor Friday.
Murphy, who has been a police officer since 1990, was accused of
dousing Sidney Hooks with pepper spray and beating him with a
baton without lawful justification in August 2003.
Acosta said Murphy asked one of the officers on the scene to file a
complaint stating that Hooks had assaulted him, but the officer
declined.
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04-19-2008 09:46 AM
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In 2004, the village paid Hooks $50,000 to settle a civil case filed
against Murphy.
Defense attorney Rick Halprin did not elaborate on the reasons for
entering a guilty plea, other than to say that his client was facing
felony charges. A sentencing hearing is scheduled for July 9, said
Halprin, and Murphy will remain free on bond till that date.
"Over his career he's done some very good things for the police
department," Aftanas said. "At the same time, with this plea deal ...
it's disappointing. If he pled guilty, that's concerning."
See the April 23 edition of the Forest Park Review for complete
coverage of this story.
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
EASTERN DIVISION
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA )
Posts: 31403 ) No. 07 CR 686
vs. ) Judge David H. Coar
)
MICHAEL MURPHY )
PLEA AGREEMENT
1. This Plea Agreement between the United States Attorney for the
Northern
District of Illinois, PATRICK J. FITZGERALD, the Department of
Justice Civil Rights
Division Acting Assistant Attorney General GRACE CHUNG BECKER,
and defendant
MICHAEL MURPHY, and his attorneys, RICK HALPRIN and
DINAMARIE CALE, is
that different or
additional Guideline provisions apply in this case. Defendant
understands that the Probation
Office will conduct its own investigation and that the Court
ultimately determines the facts
and law relevant to sentencing, and that the Court's determinations
govern the final Guideline
calculation. Accordingly, the validity of this Agreement is not
contingent upon the probation
officer’s or the Court's concurrence with the above calculations, and
defendant shall not have
a right to withdraw his plea on the basis of the Court's rejection of
these calculations.
f. Both parties expressly acknowledge that this plea agreement is
not
governed by Fed.R.Crim.P. 11(c)(1)(B), and that errors in applying
or interpreting any of the
Sentencing Guidelines may be corrected by either party prior to
sentencing. The parties may
correct these errors either by stipulation or by a statement to the
Probation Office or the
Court, setting forth the disagreement regarding the applicable
provisions of the Guidelines.
The validity of this Plea Agreement will not be affected by such
corrections, and defendant
shall not have a right to withdraw his plea, nor the government the
right to vacate this Plea
Agreement, on the basis of such corrections.
in case 06 CR 728.
17. This Plea Agreement concerns criminal liability only. Except as
expressly set
forth in this Agreement, nothing herein shall constitute a limitation,
waiver or release by the
United States or any of its agencies of any administrative or judicial
civil claim, demand or
cause of action it may have against defendant or any other person
or entity. The obligations
of this Agreement are limited to the United States Attorney's Office
for the Northern District
of Illinois and cannot bind any other federal, state or local
prosecuting, administrative or
regulatory authorities, except as expressly set forth in this
Agreement.
Waiver of Rights
Restitution
19. The defendant agrees, pursuant to Title 18, United States Code,
Section
3663(a)(3) to the entry of an order requiring him to make
restitution to Sidney Hooks in an
amount still to be determined. The defendant understands that Title
18, United States Code,
Section 3664 and Sections 5E1.1 and 5E1.2 of the Sentencing
Guidelines set forth the factors
to be weighed in setting a fine and in determining the schedule, if
any, according to which
restitution is to be paid in this case. The defendant agrees to
provide full and truthful
information to the court and United States Probation Officer
regarding all details of his
economic circumstances in order to determine the proper restitution
schedule according to
which the defendant may be ordered to pay. Defendant
understands that providing false or
incomplete information may be prosecuted as a violation of Title 18,
United States Code,
Section 1001, or as a contempt of the court.
Other Terms
Conclusion
______________
MICHAEL MURPHY
Defendant
_______________
SERGIO E. ACOSTA
Assistant U.S. Attorney
___________
RICK HALPRIN
Attorney for Defendant
_____________
ELIZABETH BIFFL
Trial Attorney,
United States Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
United States Attorney Defendant
______________
DINAMARIE CALE
Attorney for Defendant
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04-19-2008 10:14 AM
4/22/2008 10:00:00 PM
By Jeff Fuldauer
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But before the trail could get under way, Murphy pled guilty
to police misconduct while acting "under color of law," and
agreed to resign from the police department, forfeiting his
ability to ever again work as a law enforcement officer in
any jurisdiction.
"Over his career he's done some very good things for the police
department," Deputy Chief Tom Aftanas said. "At the same time,
with this plea deal ... it's disappointing."
As part of the plea deal, Murphy admitted that at no time did Hooks
verbally or physically assault the officers.
own safety. That wasn't really fair to put them in that position.
"I take no joy in the fact that he would have to go to prison for
what he did. But for his own sake and for the morale of the
department I think a guilty plea was best."
The Hooks incident was not the first time Murphy was the subject of
a citizen complaint. On at least three other occasions, the village of
Forest Park paid settlements on civil cases in which Murphy was
named as a defendant.
"I'm glad that officer Murphy has taken accountability for his
actions," Binsworth said. "I hope that he will be punished with full
authority of the law and that this brings to light the scope of police
misconduct in this department."
U.S. District Judge David Coar will decide July 9 whether Murphy is
to serve time in jail.
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PRESS CONTACTS:
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Randall Samborn (312) 353-5318
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the face with pepper spray without justification and then repeatedly
struck him with an expandable baton. The victim suffered several
injuries, including a broken wrist. Murphy also admitted to
falsifying his police report in an effort to conceal his use of
excessive force.
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The 19-year-veteran of the Oak Brook police force calls the claims
and accusations against him untrue. He believes evidence
presented at his Nov. 1 hearing in front of the Oak Brook Board of
"I think it is not only being exaggerated, but given way more
attention than it really deserves," Mucha said of the recent media
coverage he has received.
Mucha was placed on paid leave June 7 after Police Chief Thomas
Sheahan filed charges against him in an effort to fire him. On Sept.
28, police commissioners decided to suspend Mucha's pay for 30
days because of a new set of charges.
"We brought forth the charges and we think we can prove them,"
Sheahan said.
In April 2005, Fran and Casey Gaik filed a federal suit against the
village and Mucha, alleging they were victims of a harassment
campaign because they publicly criticized the village. In September,
Oak Brook trustees agreed to accept a $2 million offer from the
village's insurance carrier to settle the suit.
But Mucha said the communications were made by his wife, Carol,
unbeknownst to him.
"Were there e-mails? Yes. Were they from me? No. Were they
harassing? I don't think so," Mucha said.
He said his wife first contacted the Citizens for Better Government,
a group formed by Fran Gaik, after a newspaper article made claims
about low morale within the police department.
"(My wife) back then and to this day feels more strongly about what
is said in the press than even I do," Mucha said.
When Mucha found out that his wife made the contact, he said he
was adamant that she stop all communications. But instead she
secretly opened a separate Internet account to hide further e-mails
from her husband.
Mucha said he only found out about the account in June through a
call from his attorney.
"I was as shocked as anybody else to find out that was my wife's
account," Mucha said.
Later that night, Mucha said his wife was responsible for some of
the e-mails in question during public comment at the June 27
village board meeting. At the advice of his attorney, Mucha then
updated answers in his deposition and interrogatories.
His wife opened the account using the personal information of Alan
Smith, a deceased Hinsdale resident.
"She said she just picked it at random from the phone book,"
Mucha said. "She never stole his identity."
Despite the attention being given to his case, Mucha does not worry
about returning to work if he is found innocent of the charges.
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10-16-2006 12:42 PM
The legal woes of a suspended Oak Brook police sergeant might not
be resolved until sometime next year.
The police and fire board set a status hearing for 6:30 p.m. Jan. 11
at the village hall.
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Audible gasps also came from some local residents and members of
the Oak Brook Citizens for Better Government, who backed the call
for Mucha’s dismissal.
John Baar, chairman of the police and fire board, told Mucha he
should be thankful for the lenient decision.
“The result of this could have been very different and it is our hope
and desire not to see you in front of this board in the near future,”
Baar said.
Sheahan and his supporters quickly left the hearing and could not
be reached afterward for comment.
“I think it’s good for the village that this is finally settled one way or
the other,” Quinlan said. “It’s been a long battle that tore this
village apart.”
Even though Mucha will keep his job, his legal troubles are not
over. The Cook and DuPage county state’s attorney’s offices are
conducting their own probes into his conduct and he faces a
misdemeanor charge in DuPage of unlawful requesting of conviction
information.
Police and fire board attorney John Broihier said Mucha has
immunity from his testimony being used in future criminal
proceedings.
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By Lane Kelley
Oak Brook Suburban Life
Wed Jun 13, 2007, 09:50 AM CDT
“Every two weeks I still get my pay stub that says zero,” said the
suspended Oak Brook cop Tuesday.
Mucha said his suspension ended two weeks ago, but he is still
waiting for word from the village and Sheahan.
“I’ve called them and told them that I’m ready to come back to
work, when should I report and how do I get paid for some of this
back time that went unpaid,” Mucha said.
“So right now there’s just other personnel issues that we’re working
out with him,” Moline said, adding that he could not comment on
Mucha’s request for back pay.
“He can make those requests. I really can’t talk about personnel
issues that they’re making a request for,” Moline said.
“It is what it is, but if he’s not entitled to it, he’s not entitled to it,”
Marconi said.
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Charges dropped against officer
Sgt. Randy Mucha was charged in April 2006 with violation of the
uniform conviction act, and a trial was set to begin Thursday.
Mucha and Casey and Frances Gaik have been at the center of a
village political controversy, with the Gaiks receiving a $2 million
settlement after filing a lawsuit against the village accusing Mucha
of harassing them.
Sheahan has tried to fire Mucha, but in April the village's Fire and
Police Commission chose to suspend him for 30 days.
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Oak Brook fires officer from force
By Elisabeth Mistretta
Posted Tuesday, July 24, 2007
The Oak Brook police and fire board on Monday fired the sergeant
whose actions sparked a $2 million lawsuit against the village.
After Sgt. Randy Mucha was charged with lying under oath by Police
Chief Thomas Sheahan, the board found him guilty and dismissed
him from the department. He was a 20-year veteran of the force.
Mucha first came under fire in 2005, when his on-duty actions led
to a federal lawsuit against the village, police department and some
local officials. The suit was filed by a local couple, Casey and
Frances Gaik, who claimed Oak Brook police harassed and
videotaped them — and even entered their home illegally — after
they criticized the village government.
Initially, Mucha was able to keep his job after the board voted last
April to suspend him for 30 days without pay. But Marconi said
Mucha has not been allowed to return to work since and has lost
income and health insurance.
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Cop fired after panel says he lied
Mucha was recently suspended for 30 days without pay by the Oak
Brook Police and Fire Commission, but Monday night the
commission made it permanent.
The police and fire commission found that Mucha lied during the
lawsuit deposition last year about whether he was familiar with an e-
mail user name sent from his computer to Fran and Casey Gaik's
home. Mucha initially said he was unfamiliar with the user name,
Linda Lucinda.
In April, Oak Brook village attorneys also asked Mucha about the
pseudonym. He again said he didn't recall the name. Marconi said
Tuesday that it was again a case of a faulty memory.
"We are going to have to wait to see what the written decision is,"
Marconi said. "It's confusing as to where [Mucha] was untruthful."
Oak Brook agreed this year to pay $2 million to settle the Gaik's
harassment lawsuit.
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Mucha testified in that case that he did not know Linda Lucinda. But
his attorney later filed an amended deposition, saying Mucha used
the screen name of Lucinda in an e-mail exchange.
Mucha went on paid leave in June 2006; his salary was stopped a
few months later. After months of disciplinary hearings, the
commission decided to suspend him for 30 days without pay. He
could have returned to work at the end of May, but did not.
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Navigatr1 Randy Mucha started as an Oak Brook Police Patrol Officer in 1987
Extended Sabatical and earned a promotion to Sergeant in 1999 after serving as an
Assistant Shift Commander for several years. Randy started Oak
Brook's first K-9 program in 1993 and served as a K-9 handler from
1993-2000 with Police Dog Marlo. Randy is married and has one
Registered: Jul 2003 son and two German Shepherd Dogs. Randy has served as a Field
Location: Training Officer, Crash Reconstructionist, Juvenile Officer,
Posts: 31403 Breathalyzer Operator, Bicycle Officer, Detective Sergeant and
Acting Division Commander. Randy received a Criminal Justice
degree in 1984 from College Of DuPage. In 1999 he completed the
Northwestern University Supervision of Police Personnel (SPP)
program. In 2001 Randy earned a Bachelors Degree in Criminal
Social Justice (CSJ) from Lewis University and in 2002 a Masters of
Arts Degree in Leadership. He also completed the Northwestern
University School of Police Staff and Command (SPSC) in 2002. He
is three classes away from a Masters Degree in Public Safety
Administration (PSA) and hopes to graduate in late 2007. Over the
past twenty years Randy Mucha has been involved in the training
and/or supervision of the majority of the current officers in the Oak
Brook Police Department. Randy donates his services as Webmaster
for the Illinois Police Work Dog Association (ILPWDA) and Fraternal
Order of Police Lodge #213 (OBFOP213). Supported charities
include American Cancer Society, St Jude's Children's Hospital and
Habitat for Humanity. Randy and his wife's hobbies include auto
racing, live music, Corvettes and photography.
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http://www.oak-brook.org/dep_vservi...ucha8-17-06.pdf
The Village of Oak Brook announces the arrest of Randy Mucha for
Unlawful Requesting
Conviction Information (20 ILCS 2635/18). Mucha turned himself
into the Oak Brook Police
Department on August 17, 2006 at about 9:30 AM. After being
processed and posting 10% of
the $2,500 bond ($250), Mucha was released with an assigned
court date of September 29, 2006
in DuPage County. Unlawful Requesting of Conviction Information is
a Class A misdemeanor.
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
07-28-2007 12:31 PM
Navigatr1 http://randymucha.com/doingsbike.jpg
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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
07-28-2007 12:38 PM
Two months after being fired from the Oak Brook Police
Department, a former sergeant has turned to federal court in an
attempt to get his job back and to collect damages from his former
boss.
The seven-count suit filed Friday also asks the court to review the
police commission's decision to fire Mucha on July 23, calling the
hearing a "sham." Mucha seeks back pay and benefits, job
reinstatement and unspecified punitive damages against Sheahan.
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09-27-2007 09:36 PM
Oak Brook, IL -
Former Oak Brook police Sgt. Randy Mucha has sued the village
and police officials over his firing two months ago.
Mucha sued the village of Oak Brook, Police Chief Thomas Sheahan
and the town’s Police and Fire Commission, which fired him July 23
for lying and unprofessional conduct.
“He’s a liar,” Sterk said. “It just further demonstrates that this guy
just has a problem with the truth.”
Mucha was put on unpaid leave last September for doing what
Sheahan considered an illegal background check on a resident, who
later won a $2 million settlement in a federal lawsuit in which
Mucha was one of the defendants.
Mucha sued the village of Oak Brook, Police Chief Thomas Sheahan
and the town’s Police and Fire Commission, which fired him July 23
for lying and unprofessional conduct.
“He’s a liar,” Sterk said. “It just further demonstrates that this guy
just has a problem with the truth.”
Mucha was put on unpaid leave last September for doing what
Sheahan considered an illegal background check on a resident, who
later won a $2 million settlement in a federal lawsuit in which
Mucha was one of the defendants.
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09-29-2007 09:37 AM
randyvettes I can't wait for a Federal Jury to hear the facts. You should consider
Junior Member posting some other pics too. I like this one:
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chitownbrian Jeez, I feel bad that poor dog had to play with that idiot. I hope he
Senior Member didn't beat, rape or bring false charges against the dog.
10-03-2007 10:19 PM
randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by chitownbrian
Jeez, I feel bad that poor dog had to play with
that idiot. I hope he didn't beat, rape or bring
Registered: Aug 2006 false charges against the dog.
Location: IL
Posts: 15
10-03-2007 11:14 PM
10-04-2007 01:05 PM
10-04-2007 01:13 PM
Former Oak Brook Police Sgt. Randy Mucha and Assistant State's
Attorney Joe Ruggiero took the stand Wednesday as the civil
complaint filed by Frances and Casey Gaik former village prosecutor
Joan Mullins ground forward in the U.S. District Court of the
Northern District of Illinois.
The Gaiks allege they were harassed by Mullins. The Gaiks' attorney
Steven Whitmer said in his opening remarks Monday that the case
revolves around three factors: An investigation Mullins allegedly did
of the Gaiks' backgrounds, harassment via e-mails and an alleged
malicious prosecution of Casey Gaik.
With regard to the allegation that the Gaiks were harassed via e-
mail by Mullins, former Oak Brook police Sgt. Randy Mucha took the
blame.
Mucha also said that while he thought the e-mail pranks, which
offered tips about ****fighting at the Oak Brook Police Department,
were "sophomoric and juvenile" and that he regretted them, he also
thought the Gaiks were so desperate to find controversy, they
would believe any story he told.
Reputation at stake
Mullins also took the stand again Wednesday after starting her
testimony Tuesday afternoon. The mother of four said she was
worried about damage to her and her family's reputation, and the
effect on her young children due to Fran Gaik and the Oak Brook
Citizens for Better Government publicizing information about a
December 2004 incident involving Mullins.
Fran Gaik spoke out at a February 2005 village board meeting and
again to a Daily Herald reporter about problems within the Oak
Brook Police Department, including an accident Mullins had in
December 2004. Gaik alleged that after an evening with friends at
the York Tavern, Mullins ran her car over a curb near the entrance
Dolan said the Gaiks story didn't include all the facts.
Seeking damages
The Gaiks are asking for damages to cover their legal expenses,
including $120,000 Casey Gaik said he accumulated in the two
years he spent defending the criminal charges, and the expenses of
relocating from their Oak Brook home to one in Burr Ridge last
year. Among the costs incurred are bills totaling $15,000 to
$18,000 a month for the upkeep of their Oak Brook home while it
continues to be on the market, Casey Gaik testified.
The couple asserts that Oak Brook was a hostile environment for
them and they feared further retaliation, though Frances Gaik still
owns and operates a counseling service out of the couple's adjacent
Oak Brook property.
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Registered: Aug 2006 Updated 5/10: Jury rules in favor of former Oak Brook
Location: IL
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Posts: 15
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/oakbroo...1008-s1.article
By ALISSA RASCHKE
The couple asserts that Oak Brook is a hostile environment for them
and they feared further retaliation, though Frances Gaik still owns
and operates a counseling service out of the couple's adjacent Oak
Brook property.
Mullins' attorney, Martin Dolan, said his client was pleased with the
outcome.
"The jury heard the evidence and the truth came out," he said.
"She's tired of being called a liar and finally has her name back."
Fran Gaik said despite the jury's finding she thought her case
illuminated issues within the village.
"I feel our efforts have made a tremendous difference in Oak Brook
in spite of today's loss," she said. "This litigation was difficult in that
we were severely restricted by the judge in presenting the entire
picture of what was occurring during this time.
"The trial, as difficult as it was, was also the catalyst for bringing
light to many issues and confirmation of many of our original
allegations. The litigation has been a tremendous personal sacrifice
for both my husband and myself, and at the very least we are
relieved to be able to move on."
The case has been ongoing since 2005, when the Gaiks allege they
were harassed by Mullins. Whitmer said in his opening remarks
Monday that the case revolved around three factors: An
investigation Mullins allegedly conducted of the Gaiks' backgrounds,
harassment via e-mail and an alleged malicious prosecution of
Casey Gaik.
The alleged battery took place in the hallway of Oak Brook Village
Hall during a board meeting, when Mullins said Casey Gaik battered
her by grabbing both of her arms. A surveillance video of the
hallway was recovered and shows Casey Gaik making physical
contact with Mullins, but because of the camera angle, it is difficult
to tell if Casey Gaik, at nearly 6 feet tall, touched or grabbed
Mullins, who stands about 5-foot-3-inches.
The criminal case against Casey Gaik was dropped in May 2007,
because of a lack of additional evidence.
With regard to the allegation that the Gaiks were harassed via e-
mail by Mullins, former Oak Brook police Sgt. Randy Mucha took the
blame.
Mucha also said that while he thought the e-mail pranks, which
offered tips about ****fighting at the Oak Brook Police Department,
were "sophomoric and juvenile" and that he regretted them, he also
thought the Gaiks were so desperate to find controversy, they
would believe any story he told.
Reputation at stake
When Mullins took the stand Tuesday and Wednesday, the mother
of four said she was worried about damage to her and her family's
reputation and the effect on her young children due to Fran Gaik
and the Oak Brook Citizens for Better Government publicizing
information about a December 2004 incident involving Mullins.
Fran Gaik spoke out at a February 2005 village board meeting and
again to a Daily Herald reporter about problems within the Oak
Brook Police Department, including an accident Mullins had in
December 2004. Gaik alleged that after an evening with friends at
the York Tavern, Mullins ran her car over a curb near the entrance
to Brook Forest subdivision. Mullins said the accident was a result of
an icy patch of road and that she handled it in an entirely legal
manner. She reported the accident to police the following morning
and paid a ticket for not alerting law enforcement immediately.
Mullins said neither alcohol nor drugs played any role in the
accident, just winter road conditions. She asserts she had only been
drinking soft drinks and water.
Mullins' attorney, Martin Dolan, has countered that Mullins was first
the object of harassment, and that her family was targeted by Fran
Gaik and OBCBG, after Mullins� accident.
Dolan said the Gaiks story didn't include all the facts.
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Navigatr1 quote:
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Looks like the Gaiks will now have to sue Randy Mucha for
harassment since he has admitted to sending the emails and
creating the email address used. Doesn't matter if Mucha later
amended his statement to take the 5th amendment as the
disposition in the court record will show the admission. The
admission by Mucha is what got Mullins off the hook. For that
matter the prosecutors office should pick up the case and charge
Mucha for harassing the Gaiks.
--Navigatr1
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05-11-2008 08:20 AM
randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by Navigatr1
Looks like the Gaiks will now have to sue Randy
Mucha for harassment since he has admitted to
Registered: Aug 2006 sending the emails and creating the email
Location: IL address used. Doesn't matter if Mucha later
Posts: 15 amended his statement to take the 5th
amendment as the disposition in the court record
will show the admission. The admission by Mucha
is what got Mullins off the hook. For that matter
the prosecutors office should pick up the case and
charge Mucha for harassing the Gaiks.
--Navigatr1
They already sued me and several others and settled out of court
with the insurance carrier for the Village.
05-11-2008 12:47 PM
Navigatr1 quote:
Extended Sabatical
I reread this thread randyvettes, and saw where the Gaiks sued
Oak Brook setting out of court for $2 million. However, I don't see
anything where they sued you. They could have, but the article
wasn't posted is all.
quote:
While I am no lawyer, I believe the Gaiks can still sue you over
these emails that you sent them for you admitted in court that you
and your wife created the email address, tamandjon@excite.com
they were sent from. Your admission got Mullins off the hook, which
means you are taking the fall for the harassing emails.
--Navigatr1
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05-11-2008 01:56 PM
Navigatr1 Civil suit against former Oak Brook village prosecutor goes to trial
Extended Sabatical
Nearly two years after settling a suit with the village of Oak
Brook, the police department and former police Sgt. Randy
Mucha for $2 million, Oak Brook homeowners Fran and Casey
Gaik are one step closer to closure in another case.
After two years of continuances the couple's civil suit against Joan
Mullins, former village prosecutor for Oak Brook, went to trial in
the U.S. District Court of the Northern District of Illinois Monday in
Mullins was listed as a defendant in the case against the village two
years ago, but was not included in the settlement. She has publicly
asked the village for indemnification, which the village board and
Oak Brook's insurance carrier, Intergovernmental Risk Management
Agency, have denied.
Dolan said the Gaiks' story didn't include all the facts, and that
Mullins is a mother just trying to protect her family and her
reputation as a prosecutor.
The Gaiks are asking for damages to cover their legal expenses and
the expenses of relocating from their Oak Brook home to one in
Burr Ridge. The couple claims Oak Brook was a hostile environment
for them and they feared further retaliation.
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05-11-2008 02:07 PM
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05-11-2008 02:11 PM
randyvettes The c*ckfighting e-mails were sent to the Gaik's citizens group, Oak
Junior Member Brook Citizens for Better Governement. They were actually replied
to by Mrs Fran Gaik. Marty Zelisko was never accused of taking part
in c*ckfighting, thats an error by the media. Zelisko was caught at
the Gaiks lying about his location and activities. I was named in the
Registered: Aug 2006 suit against the village along with the Mayor and Village Prosecutor.
Location: IL The insurance carrier settled us out of the suit but wouldn't settle
Posts: 15 out for the Village Prosecutor. At trial the prosecutor won. If the
insurance carrier would have let us go to trial rather than settle, I
doubt any jury would have given them $2,000,000. for being stupid
enough to believe c*ckfighting e-mails.
05-11-2008 04:30 PM
Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
05-11-2008 04:32 PM
randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by Navigatr1
Randy Mucha and K-9 Marlo (Retired)
http://www.ilpwda.com/mucha.jpg
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05-11-2008 04:35 PM
Oak Brook, IL -
Mention the swirl of litigation around the Village of Oak Brook and
its Police Department, and before long, people are talking about
Randy Mucha.
Mucha’s history in the village has become so tangled that his recent
suspension was a personal victory because it means he can return
to work soon. While suspended, Mucha admits he has been at the
eye of the storm.
Gaik.
“Those are the only two lawsuits that are pending against me
anywhere,” Mucha said, disputing claims by assistants to new
Village President John Craig that more lawsuits are pending.
New village attorney Mark Sterk said Tuesday he had not reviewed
all the town’s cases yet and did not want to comment on their
status.
“I don’t want to open my mouth and insert foot because I just don’t
have the whole lay of the land,” Sterk said.
Oak Brook Trustee Jeff Kennedy, legal liaison for the Village Board,
said the only lawsuits he knows about involving Mucha are those
filed by O’Malley, the two cops and the Gaiks.
Kennedy said there are half a dozen other suits against the village,
but they are “pretty much routine stuff.” Kennedy said the May 9
letter from IRMA did mention Mucha, but Kennedy said he does not
think the village is in danger of losing its insurance coverage.
Mucha said he does not pretend he can go back to work and ignore
what has happened to him during the past two years. But he does
think he can work for Police Chief Tom Sheahan, who wanted to fire
him.
“I honestly don’t fault him for everything that has happened to me,”
Mucha said. “In the bigger picture, I do believe he has done what
he believes to be the right thing, although obviously I disagree with
the way a lot of it came about.”
By Andrew Westel
Oak Brook police officer and Darien resident Randy Mucha is
ready to head back to work after being suspended for one
month for alleged misconduct.
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/oakbr...339be46b7b2.jpg
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05-11-2008 04:42 PM
Glad you like it. Heheheh. I couldn't resist posting it. Nothing really
ever dies on the Internet you know. lol. You invited me to post a
few more pics of you anyway in a previous post. ppppp
Were you suspended for 5 days because you used the Oak Brook
computer to check out a couple in Florida? One source seems to
indicate this. The suspension was because the computer was used
for a non-Oak Brook case from my understanding. Just seeking
clarification is all.
--Navigatr1
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05-11-2008 04:53 PM
randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by Navigatr1
Were you suspended for 5 days because you used
the Oak Brook computer to check out a couple in
Registered: Aug 2006 Florida? One source seems to indicate this. The
Location: IL suspension was because the computer was used
Posts: 15 for a non-Oak Brook case from my understanding.
Just seeking clarification is all.
--Navigatr1
I was suspended for 5 days for using Oak Brooks computer to run a
criminal history on a thief in Florida that I filed a police report
against in Orlando. I should have let Orlando PD run him on their
computer but I was in too much of a hurry. That was 2000 or 2001
I think.
05-11-2008 04:59 PM
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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
05-11-2008 05:01 PM
Oak Brook, IL -
The town’s Police and Fire Commission found Sgt. Randy Mucha
guilty on nine of 15 charges brought against him by Police Chief
Tom Sheahan. However, the panel decided against firing the 19-
year veteran officer.
“I’m glad they could see the forest for the trees,” Mucha said after
the verdict. “I made some errors, but it didn’t rise to the level
where they should terminate me.”
“(The charges) involve not being honest, they involve violating the
public trust, they involve insubordination, they involve violating the
chain of command,” Sheahan testified.
Oak Brook residents Fran and Casey Gaik, who filed a suit in 2005
accusing Mucha and other village officials of harassing a citizens
group they formed, won a $2 million settlement from the village's
insurance carrier last August.
Mucha’s attorney, Jerome Marconi, said his client caught flak from
both sides in early 2005, from Sheahan, who didn’t like him, and
from rank and file officers annoyed by Mucha investigating their
whereabouts during shifts.
Marconi told the Police and Fire Commission that a guilty verdict,
which would mean Mucha’s firing as a cop and also the loss of his
pension, would be “devastating upon the morale of this
department.”
Mucha still has some other legal problems to deal with, too. The
DuPage and Cook County state attorneys are investigating his
conduct, and he faces the misdemeanor charge over his arrest last
summer.
At a glance
Oak Brook Police Sgt. Randy Mucha was put on unpaid leave last
September following his arrest on a misdemeanor complaint of
“unlawful requesting of conviction information” by Chief Tom
Sheahan.
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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.
Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
05-11-2008 05:04 PM
The bare facts came out just days after Oak Brook's insurance
company agreed to pay $700,000 to settle claims by two officers
that Mucha and other police officials had violated the officers' First
Amendment rights by harassing them for speaking out about the
replacement of the village's police chief. Former officer Donald
Malec and current officer Martin Zelisko will split the $700,000.
The village also paid out $2 million to settle claims by two Oak
Brook residents -- Casey and Frances Gaik -- alleging similar
harassment by Mucha and other police officials for their objections
to the hiring of a new police chief.
Mucha has his own lawsuit pending against the village, alleging
violation of his rights for firing him in July after the alleged
harassment came to light.
Mucha and his attorneys filed a motion last week asking that a
federal judge order the return of the pictures, which were
subpoenaed as part of the contents of Mucha's computer drives.
Later, at least one photo was printed out and presented to Mucha
during an April administrative hearing, his lawyers wrote.
They also alleged the photographs were not under the protection of
a court order.
Mucha's attorneys had asked U.S. District Court Judge James Zagel
to sanction Malec, but no ruling was made at a court hearing
Tuesday.
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05-11-2008 05:07 PM
Navigatr1 Read more about Oak Brook Officer Martin Zelisko, and former
Extended Sabatical officer Donald Malec here since their seems to be a relation to this
thread.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=28211
Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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05-11-2008 05:11 PM
Bolingbrook, IL -
Former Oak Brook cop Randy Mucha said he has received many
inquiries recently about his connection to the Drew and Stacy
Peterson case in Bolingbrook.
As for the father, Mucha said he has met Drew Peterson twice.
“I’ve said no more to him than, ‘Hi, how are ya,’” Mucha said. “I’ve
never spent more than 20 seconds in a room with him. I’ve never
had a drink with him, never seen him anywhere other than at his
house when I was there to meet Steve and a bunch of other guys
and go for a motorcycle ride and then at Steve’s barbecue/wedding
reception.”
Illinois State Police Trooper Mark Dorencz said Steve Peterson and
some other Oak Brook officers have been interviewed about the
incident but none of the officers are suspects.
In late October, Oak Brook police said Steve Peterson was not a
“person of interest” in the case and said they were cooperating with
state police.
In early October, Mucha sued the village and police officials over his
firing in federal court, accusing village officials of false arrest,
defamation, malicious prosecution and invasion of privacy.
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05-11-2008 05:25 PM
The Gaiks have just won $2 million in a lawsuit and they're not
entirely happy.
So hollow that the Oak Brook couple has put its home up for sale.
They've been driven out of the town they say by a police force that
turned them into targets.
"We can't rely on the police to protect us," Frances Gaik said.
The Gaiks say it all began after they complained publicly about the
village president and the police department.
But department officials say officers only entered the home after a
burglar alarm was sounded.
As for the alleged harassment, Oak Brook police say it involved Sgt.
Randy Mucha, who they contend was acting alone.
But Mario Vescovi, the vice president of Oak Brook's Citizens For
Better Government, says the problems in the city are much bigger
than one renegade cop.
lawsuit.
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guys are."
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randyvettes You are finding a lot of old info. It's all old news in oak brook.
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05-11-2008 07:12 PM
GC Marciano Old news or not, it is being compiled in this thread. I don't think
Copwatcher Extraordinaire anybody ever claimed this was breaking news. It may be old
news in Oak Brook, but it is new news to the rest of the country
that reads these forums to learn about criminal cops.
NAME:
Randall J. Mucha
SPOUSE:
Carol P. Mucha
ADDRESS:
7721 Williams Street
Darien, IL 60561
TELEPHONE:
(630) 967-8465
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randyvettes quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
I think it's reasonable to assume that Randy
Mucha is closely involved with wife-killer Drew
Registered: Aug 2006 Peterson.
Location: IL
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05-12-2008 02:15 AM
randyvettes No, I am not. But I am familiar with United, Radco, Lund, Chicago
Junior Member Comm, etc.
May I ask why you posted my personal info? I'd appreciate it if you
would delete it. I really don't need kooks calling or visiting.
Registered: Aug 2006
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05-12-2008 02:38 AM
GC Marciano From the public realm of the World Wide Web, specifically the
Copwatcher Extraordinaire following news media URL's:
http://www.northcountrygazette.net/...to-curb-2sm.jpg
http://www.northcountrygazette.net/...to-curb-1sm.jpg
Attachment: 1sm.png
This has been downloaded 37 time(s).
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05-12-2008 02:43 AM
randyvettes I know its out there, but why do you need to repost it for more
Junior Member kooks to use? Please delete it. Thanks in advance.
05-12-2008 02:47 AM
randyvettes quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
Randy... so are you doing squad car installs now?
Registered: Aug 2006 I used to build squad cars (lights, radios, GPS and
Location: IL MDT/computers) and repeater systems for United
Posts: 15 Radio Communications in Bridgeview and later for
Comm Direct in Batavia.
05-12-2008 02:58 AM
GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by randyvettes
I know its out there, but why do you need to
repost it for more kooks to use? Please delete
it. Thanks in advance.
Did you ever request the media remove the published "personal
information" (address, telephone number) of a suspect that you
arrested? You'd certainly want to protect him from the "kooks",
right?
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05-12-2008 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by randyvettes
May I ask why you posted my personal info? I'd
appreciate it if you would delete it. I really don't
need kooks calling or visiting.
Clearly, you can't even protect yourself, much less anyone else, and
you serve only yourself, you narcissistic kook.
By the way, thanks for confirming your address, genius.
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05-12-2008 07:00 AM
Navigatr1 Sorry Randy, but your name and address is public information.
Extended Sabatical Anybody with an Internet connection, and are web savvy can find
it. You can either live with it as you have done so far, or you can
always sell your home. Chances are some data mining company will
have your new address, and post it on the Internet free or for a fee.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: The government post peoples addresses all the time, and some
Posts: 31403 weren't even convicted of a crime. In Ohio for instance, a civil judge
has to decide that a crime more than likely happened even though
the person wasn't convicted in a criminal court. The state of of Ohio
then publishes that person's information on the Internet along with
their picture. Any kook as you put it can use this information.
If you were ever arrested for anything, your address and other
information can be gotten through a public record's request. A lot of
sheriff offices and courts are even putting this information online
now including addresses.
http://theultimates.whitepages.com/...fid=n&ft=b%3C=b
home
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Basic Info
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Status: Married
Orientation: Straight
Religion: Christian - other
Zodiac: Leo
Hometown: West burbs of Chicago
Schools: Yep
Occupation: Several
Personal Info
Interests: Corvette Racing and Digital Photography
Tattoos: Three
Piercings: One
Favorite Sports: Auto Racing
Favorite Music: Indie Rock Pop
Favorite Movies: Comedy
Favorite Drink: Bacardi and Diet with a lime
Favorite Color: Teal
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05-13-2008 03:32 AM
liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
Hmmm... could it be one of these two homes?
"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
— W. Somerset Maugham, Strictly Personal (1941)
05-13-2008 04:38 AM
AVENGER quote:
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Originally posted by liberranter
Not on any "honest" low-level cop's salary.
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05-13-2008 06:56 AM
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05-15-2008 01:01 AM
randyvettes quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
Randy, where did you go? I thought we could
have an intelligent debate.
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: IL Care to respond to the questions I posed above
Posts: 15 regarding published addresses of people charged
with a crime?
05-15-2008 03:22 AM
GC Marciano quote:
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Originally posted by randyvettes
I never published anyones address. What
would you like to debate?
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05-15-2008 04:57 AM
photoman http://truthinjustice.org/mucha/forceful-impact.htm
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Someone needs to keep tabs on you Mucha!
Registered: Aug 2006 Is this one of your relatives?
Location: Under your bed...
Posts: 875 Jason Ross Mucha
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...highlight=mucha
Andrew R Mucha
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...highlight=mucha
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Registered: Jul 2003 However, did you write letters (as you did in your
Location: situation) to the media requesting or demanding that
Posts: 31403 they remove or stop publishing the addresses of
suspects charged with a crime? After all, being sworn to
"serve and protect" you would not want the kooks to
have that information, right? Think of all the innocent
wives and kids...
Chances are Randy, you will get into Child pornography since
officers who participate in investigating child pornography or chat
stings often become addicted to the stuff themselves. I am not
accusing you of having child porn. All I am stating is that you may
have a problem or have a problem in the future as a result of your
enforcement duties.
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05-17-2008 11:33 AM
I didn't see any records listed for Randy in the Wisconsin Circuit
Court Access website. Keep in mind that not all records have been
put in online. It is possible he could be listed under another name.
There were no listings for Randall or Randolph either, which are
more formal forms of Randy.
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05-18-2008 04:20 PM
chitownbrian If nothing else, I give Randy credit for two things: Having a sense
Senior Member of humor in regard to the cock fighting story, and having the ability
to have conversation with us here. Most cops freak out, swear and
Registered: Nov 2004 get all uptight, at least Randy is civil in the thread.
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103 Randy, if you are still responding, what is the status of your lawsuit
against Oak Broook and Sheahan? <~~~A known P.O.S.
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Navigatr1 Honored DUI cop John Haleas charged; 3 officers accused of lying about
Extended Sabatical arrests
"I'm going to deal with it in court," Haleas, 37, told the Sun-Times
at his Northwest Side home Tuesday.
"I don't believe the state will be able to sustain the charges brought
against him. And he's looking forward to vindicating himself," Kuzas
said.
A spokesman for the state's attorney's office said then that Haleas
failed to follow proper procedures during an April 9, 2005, arrest
witnessed by two prosecutors. The indictment focuses on that same
arrest -- of Edward Beck of the 5000 block of West Chicago Ave.
Charges against Beck were later dropped.
Last year, Noe Martinez sued Haleas in federal court, claiming the
officer arrested him before he even started his car. The suit seeks
class-action status. "We have numerous plaintiffs against Haleas,"
said Martinez's lawyer, Michael Oppenheimer.
The charges against Bernichio and Murphy stem from a 2004 arrest
Haleas is still on the police force but will be relieved of his police
powers, said police spokeswoman Monique Bond. He had been on
full duty until Tuesday. Bernichio and Murphy have already been
stripped of their police powers, she said.
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Haleas was once honored for arresting more drunken drivers than
any officer in the state.
In fact, Haleas "did not administer any field sobriety tests," the
indictment says.
Haleas had still been on the police force but will be relieved of his
police powers, News Affairs Director Monique Bond said following
his indictment.
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Haleas had been honored for making more DUI arrests than any
other police officer in Illinois. The 12-year veteran is charged with
perjury, official misconduct and obstruction of justice.
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Haleas made 718 arrests in 2005 and 2006 and was the primary
witness in hundreds of DUI cases, garnering for himself a "Top Cop"
honor from the Alliance Against Intoxicated Motorists for having
more DUI arrests than any other officer in the state.
Court documents filed Tuesday also revealed that the man arrested
that night registered a blood-alcohol content of 0.334, a level of
intoxication at which people can lose consciousness or, in some
cases, die.
Haleas was charged last month with four counts of perjury, four
counts of official misconduct and two counts of obstructing justice.
He was stripped of his police powers after police learned of the
charges. The department had given Haleas a one-day suspension
and sent him back to work after investigating the allegations.
The prosecutors were riding with Haleas the night of the arrest as
part of their training. The Grand-Central District officers who made
the traffic stop called Haleas to determine whether to write the
driver a DUI.
Shortly after the arrest, the state's attorney's office asked police to
investigate Haleas when his arrest report did not match what
happened.
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On the hot seat for nearly five hours at his City Council confirmation
hearing, Weis promised to fire any officer accused of “lying,
cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality.” But, he also talked
about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor
infractions.
“All too often, a sergeant or lieutenant may say, ‘That’s not a big
deal. We’ll let that go.’ It may be a very minor violation. But, that
does sometimes set the tone that . . . misconduct is gonna be
condoned or accepted. . . . People will then feel free to . . . keep
getting a little more bold and a little more bold,” said Weis, 50.
Weis is the career FBI agent chosen by Mayor Daley last month to
replace both retired Supt. Phil Cline and former Chief Emergency
Officer Cortez Trotter.
Daley was so enamored with Weis and his ability to deliver the
Police Department from the abyss of corruption and brutality
allegations, he agreed to pay the new superintendent $310,000 and
lock him in to a term that ends after the 2011 mayoral election.
said, “It is not a job that has a great deal of tenure. In fact, some
would describe it as . . . like sitting on top of a keg of dynamite with
the fuse getting shorter every day.”
But, the alderman also said, “I really liked hearing you say that
you’re gonna go out and run with the recruits and that you’re gonna
be out there at 2 o’clock in the morning having coffee with cops
working the midnight shift. . . . Once members of the department
get to know that you’re not asking them to do anything that you
won’t do yourself, you’ll be a great success.”
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With this intent in mind, I would like to know if you will address one
of the the most egregious issues of misconduct on the police force:
officers who use their position of authority to force women to have
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This is not only illegal, but also highly immoral. Although this
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It might not be how your officers typically think of rape or how rape
is typically portrayed on the evening news. There is no masked man
slipping in through a half-open window and no virginal girl
screaming for help. Instead, there is just a woman who knows
better than to resist and a man who is used to taking advantage of
his position of authority.
Author Eve Ensler once stated, "If you held a woman sacred, you
couldn't murder her or rape her or mutilate her or hurt her." It is
time that all women in this city are held sacred by your men in
blue, regardless of their situation.
While I appreciate the hard work of police officers who put their
lives on the line for citizens every day, there are dishonest and
criminal cops in this city who ought to be fired and punished.
As the man you claim to be, I know you must feel the same -- so
tell me, will you take these rapist officers off our streets? Or will
you stand by and watch as the men in your command continue to
commit the very crimes we hire them to prevent?
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3 Cicero Police Officers Indicted
Civil Rights Abuses, Conspiracy Alleged
Assistant U.S. Atty. Sergio Acosta said the men sometimes acted
together and sometimes individually in the abuse of five people,
including some who already have sued Cicero and the officers in
cases settled by the town. Prosecutors said the men planted
evidence and testified falsely to cover up their actions.
At the end of the incident the officers allegedly ordered the victim,
Floyd Wilson, "to use the shirt [the victim] was wearing to clean up
his own blood that had run onto the floor as a result of the injuries
inflicted by defendants," the indictment says.
Wilson said he was relieved to hear that criminal charges had been
filed.
"It's been a long three years," Wilson said. "I finally got a big
weight off my shoulders. I don't have to fear for myself and my
family."
Those victims filed a suit that also has been settled, records show.
DiSantis broke the camera after the second traffic stop, according
to that suit, and then asked for the camera's "memory stick."
"When the plaintiff explained to him the camera did not have a
`memory stick,' DiSantis hit the plaintiff in the face with the
camera, causing lacerations, bruising, soreness and swelling,"
according to the suit.
"DiSantis knocked the victim to the ground, where DiSantis hit the
victim in the head with his police badge and ultimately threw the
victim into the swimming pool," Acosta said.
Cicero spokesman Dan Proft said the officers were on active duty as
of the day of their arrests, despite past accusations against them.
The town ended internal investigations two years ago as federal
authorities moved in, he said, and could not fire them because of
union rules. DiSantis was on administrative leave from Jan. 6 to
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Registered: Jun 2005 Yet another example of why cops (or any other public-sector
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In February 2005, DiSantis told the Tribune he was under
investigation.
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GC Marciano Doesn't surprise me, Cicero is a shithole on par with Harvey and
Copwatcher Extraordinaire their "police force" is just as corrupt.
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Dominick, who received five stiches for his wounds, told the court in
a letter that the episode haunts him.
Peslak's partner, Joseph DeKiel, was not on the scene during the
traffic stop, but he lied and pretended that he was in order to
corroborate Peslak's story. DeKiel had testified under oath against
Dominick.
Both men have been stripped of their badges and are scheduled to
surrender to authorities on Oct. 9.
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U. S. Department of Justice
PRESS CONTACT:
AUSA Brandon Fox
(312)353-5277
AUSA Sergio Acosta
(312)353-1415
AUSA/PIO Randall Samborn (312) 353-5318
or individually – engaged in
physical beatings and falsifying evidence and testimony against the
victims, announced Patrick J.
Fitzgerald, United States Attorney for the Northern District of
Illinois, and Robert D. Grant, Special
Agent-in-Charge of the Chicago Office of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.
The defendants, James DiSantis, who was deputy superintendent of
the Cicero Police
Department at the time of the incidents, and William Peslakand
Joseph DeKiel, both then assigned
to the department’s gang tactical unit, were charged in an eight-
count indictment that was returned
under seal on Oct. 5. DiSantis, 41, of Riverside, was charged with
four counts of committing civil
rights abuses and one count of conspiracy. Peslak, 35, of Downers
Grove, was charged with three
counts of committing civil rights abuses and two counts of
conspiracy. DeKiel, 37, of Palos Park,
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Both moves come after a Spring Grove man filed a federal lawsuit
Monday against the village, Quilici and others.
The lawsuit, filed in Rockford, alleges that Quilici, while off duty,
participated in a brawl Feb. 20 outside a bar that left the Spring
Grove man severely injured.
Ryan Hallett, 25, says in the suit that Quilici was one of three off-
duty police officers who handcuffed him and "took turns beating
him, causing severe injuries ... and ultimately requiring the
installation of a plate in his head."
Outside the bar, the officers confronted Hallett and "beat him with
their fists, knees and boots," the lawsuit says. During the beating,
one of the officers "viciously kicked [Hallett] in the face, shattering
the orbital bone surrounding his right eye," the suit says.
The suit lists two unnamed officers from Spring Grove and the
McHenry County Sheriff's Department as defendants.
"We shouldn't even be in the lawsuit," Nygren said. "We got there
like 25 minutes after this was over."
Brusek said he learned of the altercation only after the suit was
filed. He said he had already decided not to reappoint Szewczyk as
chief when his term expired May 1 because of similar instances of
poor communication.
Szewczyk has been with the department for 15 years and was
appointed chief in May 1999. He earned a salary of $54,740. He
declined to comment when reached at home Thursday.
"There was a discussion about some of the things that were going
on that were wrong," Brusek said. "I concluded it wasn't going to
get any better."
McHenry County State's Atty. Lou Bianchi said that could take two
or three weeks. When that probe is complete, Bianchi's office will
decide whether any charges are warranted--possibly against Hallett
or the officers involved.
"We're very troubled that they've turned this around," said Loevy.
"They had a dispute in a bar," Loevy said. "But they had a badge
and took it too far."
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Owens also said that a grand juror recently had written the state's
attorney's office and said he could provide information about what
occurred.
Owens said that she called the juror and asked him if he could fill
out a similar affidavit if it was requested.
"We have to prove that [Illinois State Police Special Agent William
Kroncke] did not influence the grand jury and who better to do that
than a grand juror," Owens said in court.
"Not only do we have the grand juror who faces contempt charges
for talking about the deliberations," Loizzo said, "but we also have
the criminal chief of the state's attorney's office facing contempt
charges."
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Ex-cops dealt setback in beating trial
By Charles Keeshan
Posted Saturday, June 30, 2007
Judge Joseph Condon ruled Nichole Owens could remain on the case
since defense lawyers likely would be unable to make her a witness
for their side during the upcoming trial.
The ruling came on the same day Condon agreed to postpone the
Both deny the charges, saying they acted in self-defense when the
man pulled a knife on them in the tavern’s parking lot. Along with
Jessica Thelen, a bar patron authorities say participated in the fight,
the former police officers had been scheduled to go to trial July 16.
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Ronald Pilati and Jerome Volstad took their first step toward an
One major issue on which attorneys hinged their request was a 911
audio recording that captured the altercation, which defense
attorneys alleged was edited by police.
The calls were made by both Pilati and Volstad from their cell
phones during the altercation.
During the trial, after the jury had already heard the incomplete
recording, the new audio was discovered. According to court
transcripts, even prosecutors agreed it was new.
“I don’t know what the answers are and where they will lead, but I
am not prepared to discard everything that has been heard thus far
on this case,” Condon said.
Volstad was a former police officer during the altercation and Pilati
was an off-duty Spring Grove police officer.
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"I'm not going to rest until we get to the bottom of this," Pilati
attorney Thomas Loizzo said.
Volstad, 43, of Cary, and Pilati, 36, of Spring Grove, were found
guilty in November of charges stemming from an early-morning
fracas outside KC's Cabin in Fox Lake.
In their motion for a new trial, defense lawyers said a portion of the
911 recordings played for jurors omitted the sound of the former
officers repeatedly telling Hallett he was under arrest during the
incident and Hallett responding with an expletive.
"It corroborates what Pilati and Volstad say (happened) out there,"
Volstad lawyer Alfred Stavros said. "If the jury heard all the
evidence, there would have been a different verdict."
The judge also noted that at no point during or since the trial have
Pilati or Volstad specified any words that had been erased from or
added to the recordings.
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can opt for general population where he can see first hand the
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The Geneva Fire and Police Commission voted Monday to fire Susan
Deuchler, who had been a Geneva police officer since July 2006.
Geneva Police Chief William Kidwell said she was not fired
because of her involvement in the arrest, but because she
did not "meet the requirements of satisfactory probation."
"She performed (in the arrest) as exactly as she should have done,"
Kidwell said.
Batavia police trailed Exline's car into Geneva the night of June 29
and pulled him over. But Geneva officers, including Deuchler,
handled the questioning of Exline and his arrest.
Exline was charged July 2 by Geneva police with driving under the
influence. He was not given a breath test the night he was arrested,
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The Geneva Police and Fire Commission Monday fired an officer who
was involved in the controversial 2007 DUI arrest of a Kane County
corrections officer.
Patrol officer Susan Deuchler was nearing the end of her 18-month
probationary period with Geneva.
"I can assure you to the fullest extent it was in no way, shape or
form connected with the Todd Exline case," said Police Chief Bill
Kidwell. "She performed exactly as she should have (during the
arrest), and we have supported her 100 percent. It is not fair to her
to suggest otherwise."
However, Exline, former director of the county jail, was not charged
until July 2.
At the time, Geneva patrol Cmdr. Joe Frega said the test wasn't
given because a debate ensued about which police department had
jurisdiction, and whether probable cause for the stop existed since
no officer saw a traffic violation.
Frega said he was told by Deuchler the test was done on a flat
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The Geneva Fire and Police Commission voted Monday to fire Susan
Deuchler, who had been a Geneva police officer since July 2006.
Geneva Police Chief William Kidwell said she was not fired because
of her involvement in the arrest, but because she did not “meet the
requirements of satisfactory probation.”
“She performed [in the arrest] as exactly as she should have done,”
Kidwell said. “She made the arrest, and the courts have supported
that arrest.”
Geneva Mayor Kevin Burns also denied that there was a connection.
“There is no linkage between the police and fire commission and the
continuing Exline saga,” Burns said. “The commission acted
independently. The commission has discharged its duties as
expected and required.”
Kidwell said the city would not accept a resignation letter from
Deuchler.
“The city’s position is the board made their decision,” Kidwell said.
“A letter of resignation would be inappropriate.”
“Susan did everything she should have done,” Kidwell said. “The
department has stood behind her 100 percent since she made the
arrest.”
Batavia police trailed Exline’s car into Geneva the night of June 29
and pulled him over. But Geneva officers, including Deuchler,
handled the questioning of Exline and his arrest.
Exline was charged July 2 by Geneva police with driving under the
influence. He was not given a breath test the night that he was
arrested, but police said they had “additional information” when
they charged him.
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But prosecutors say Ambrose wasn't under arrest and made the
statements freely.
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He should have been read his rights, including his right to remain
silent and have a lawyer present, they say.
"I felt like I had been thrown into a vat of quicksand," Ambrose
testified at a pretrial hearing, tears welling in his eyes. "My body
was shaking. ... I was trying to grasp what was going on around
me."
"I told him that we have an open mind, that we have facts but we
don't have all the facts. ... Certain things we might have wrong,"
Fitzgerald said.
"(Ambrose) said, 'I screwed up, but it's not what you think.' ... He
said he wanted to keep his job. He said, 'My job means everything
to me.'"
Michael Marcello told his brother that he had a source within federal
law enforcement who fit Ambrose's description.
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"I said [to Ambrose], 'You're not under arrest, but there is a
possibility of prosecution and jail time,'" Fitzgerald recalled on the
witness stand. "Because he was not under arrest, [the Miranda
warning] was not required.'
"I felt I had been thrown in a vat of quicksand, and Mr. Fitzgerald
was throwing bricks at me," Ambrose testified. "That's how I felt."
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In a rare role reversal, U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald testified for two
hours Tuesday in federal court, defending his interrogation last year
of a deputy U.S. marshal charged with leaking secrets to the mob.
"I said [to Ambrose], 'You're not under arrest, but there is a
possibility of prosecution and jail time,'" Fitzgerald recalled on the
witness stand. "Because he was not under arrest, [the Miranda
warning] was not required.'
"I felt I had been thrown in a vat of quicksand, and Mr. Fitzgerald
was throwing bricks at me," Ambrose testified. "That's how I felt."
At one point, the mob figures said the baby-sitter's father had died
in prison after being convicted in the "Marquette 10" police scandal
— a description that pointed to Ambrose.
mjhiggins@tribune.com
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THE CITY of Chicago may have finally agreed to pay $20 million to
four men who were tortured by police and wrongly sent to spend
more than a decade each on death row. But that doesn't mean the
Chicago Police Department is cleaning house.
Far from it. A series of news reports show that Chicago's boys in
In the last 10 years, only six officers have even been disciplined for
using deadly force. Four of the six were connected to a single case--
in which LaTanya Haggerty was shot to death as she reached for
her cell phone during a traffic stop.
The growing list of shootings and other brutality involving the CPD
has prompted an outcry from many residents. In August, hundreds
of people from the North Lawndale neighborhood gathered in
protest after the police shot 18-year-old Aaron Harrison in the back.
Harrison died at the scene.
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UNJUSTIFIED SHOOTINGS are only part of the picture when it
comes to Chicago police brutality and corruption. Police
Superintendent Phil Cline stepped down earlier this year in the
wake of two separate videotaped incidents showing off-duty
Chicago police beating unarmed civilians.
At the end of summer, six officers who were part of the now
disbanded Special Operations Section (SOS) were charged with
armed violence, home invasion and kidnapping after allegedly using
their position on the force to run a theft ring. One SOS officer is
being charged with planning the murder of a former unit member
who was cooperating with authorities.
However, the two detectives are still on the job--after the Office of
Professional Standards, which handles complaints about police
misconduct, declared it was unable to conclude if the incident
occurred or not.
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CONFRONTED WITH a mounting crisis over the police, Daley has
brought in the first outsider ever to run the CPD--appointing as
superintendent J.P. “Jody” Weis, a former FBI official in charge of
Philadelphia's field office. Weis is now the city's highest paid public
official, with a $310,000-a-year salary.
Weis added, “The one thing I'm proud of with the FBI is that,
although we're not perfect, we do have a pretty good reputation of
policing ourselves.” But Weis' past experiences with whistleblowers
shows the opposite.
In 2003, Chicago FBI agent Robert G. Wright Jr. made public and
television appearances calling into question the FBI's work in
counterterrorism. In response, Weis and another top FBI official are
documented as stating they would “take him [Wright] out.” This
comment landed Weis in congressional hearings three years ago in
an investigation into whether the FBI did indeed try to retaliate
against Wright.
At the same time, Daley, thanks to a vote on City Council, has now
taken control of the Office of Professional Standards--in other
words, giving his notoriously corrupt administration oversight of
police.
But there's little reason to believe that the CPD will curb its violent
and racist behavior--unless and until protest challenges it.
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TheJackel Run a few video / audio equipped vehicles with out of state plates
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Under fire for the way police shootings are investigated, the Daley
administration wants the right to test Chicago Police officers who
discharge their weapons -- on duty or off -- for alcohol and drugs.
urine; testing for Ecstasy and steroids, and drug and alcohol testing
of officers in specialized units.
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Navigatr1 Cops forget that they don't want to piss off the public, or the
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GC Marciano This is probably the first sensible thing I have ever hear Mayor
Copwatcher Extraordinaire Dick Daley ever propose.
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This year, Beets used 918 hours of sick time from January through
Aug. 5, the equivalent of 114 eight-hour days. She did light duty for
252.5 hours. Beets was placed on paid leave Aug. 6.
“Officer Beets should not be penalized for the many health and
pregnancy-related problems, including on-the-job injuries, she has
experienced over the past 10 years,” Dotson-Williams said. “I
believe Officer Beets deserves a second chance. If she continues to
be unable to work in full capacity as a full-time police officer over
the next year now that she has been released to start working
again on light duty, I would vote to terminate her employment.”
“They ignored the sick leave policy that was clearly in evidence,”
union attorney Tim O’Neil said. “She will be filing a lawsuit that will
cost the city a lot of money.”
The commission spent the rest of the morning hearing the case
against Detective Jason Bailey. Bailey is accused of using his
computer inappropriately during work time by posting messages on
the Rockford Register Star’s StoryChat and by viewing adult Web
sites.
The hearing recessed for lunch around 12:45 p.m. and will
reconvene for further testimony.
Tonya Beets
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A Winnebago County judge cleared the way Thursday for the city’s
Board of Fire and Police Commissioners to decide the fate of four
Rockford police officers who could lose their jobs for violating
department policy.
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Two Rockford police officers could lose their jobs for allegedly using
department computers to write online rants while they were
working.
To top it off, the union slapped the city with a charge of unfair labor
practice July 30 and is awaiting a decision from the Illinois Labor
Relations Board. The union wants an arbitrator to preside over
disciplinary hearings instead of the Fire and Police Commission. But
doing so would strip the locally appointed commission of its power,
city officials say.
“Morale among the members of the union is low,” said Tim O’Neil, a
Geneva lawyer who represents Police Benevolent & Protective
Association Unit 6.
The “cultural changes” he’s pushed for since then include a sharper
focus on community policing. Block by block, officers are cracking
down on drug dealers and other unacceptable behavior that plague
neighborhoods, he said. Cops are teaming with other city workers
to battle crime and remove blight. Building inspectors, for example,
have accompanied police on sweeps through troubled
neighborhoods and cited owners of suspected drug houses for code
violations.
The panel met Friday to consider disciplinary hearings for two other
officers — Tonya Beets and Robert Cole — but those matters were
postponed to give city attorneys more time to file amended
charges. Beets is physically unfit to do her job, and Cole broke
department regulations when he failed to give his supervisor a
doctor’s note for 14 days of missed work, according to Epperson’s
complaints filed with the commission.
Bad behavior
Bailey was placed on paid leave Aug. 16. He used his work
computer to post StoryChat messages 23 times this year, according
to the city’s complaint. StoryChat is an interactive feature that
allows visitors to register for a free username and post their
opinions alongside published news stories. StoryChat was disabled
Aug. 22 when rrstar.com was redesigned; a new version,
Comments, will debut in mid-September.
City Attorney John Giliberti, who will prosecute the charges against
Bailey and Nordberg, wouldn’t say how the city can prove the
allegations. The Register Star and rrstar.com have not given police
or city officials information to aid their case, nor has such
information been requested, Executive Editor Linda Grist
Cunningham said.
What’s ahead
“As far as these lawsuits and disciplinary cases and the individuals
who may have some difficulty accepting change, that’s OK,”
Epperson said. “It’s not going to get us off our overall mission to
reduce crime, increase the solve rate and improve the quality of life
in the community.”
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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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12-01-2007 04:35 PM
A tearful Tonya Beets admitted to the city’s Board of Fire and Police
Commissioners on Monday that she’s used a lot of sick time since
she became a Rockford cop 10 years ago. But she shouldn’t lose
her job, she said, because much of that sick time was because of
injuries in the line of duty and two difficult pregnancies.
Police Chief Chet Epperson placed Beets on paid leave Aug. 6 and is
asking the three-member panel to fire her. The city’s complaint
against Beets says that her excessive amount of sick leave and
light-duty assignment “makes her unable to consistently do her
job,” and that her continued employment with the Police
Department is not in the public’s best interest.
The city alleges that Beets has used sick time or served on light-
duty assignment for more than half of her career with the
department. For example, from January of this year through Aug.
5, Beets used 918 hours of sick time and did light duty for 252.5
hours. In 2006, she used 1,405 hours of sick time. In 2005, she
used 611.5 hours of sick time and did light-duty work for 366.5
hours.
Deputy Chief Mike Booker, who also testified Monday, said the city
has spent “considerable dollars” paying other officers to cover
Beets’ shift during her times of absence. Her excessive
Beets’ lawyer, Tim O’Neil, said the city’s calculations of Beets’ sick
time do not specify time she took off for maternity leave or
approved workers’ compensation complaints. For example, O’Neil
said, Beets used more than 1,451 hours of sick time in 2000, but all
but about eight hours of that time was on doctor’s orders because
of pregnancy complications.
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Police Chief Chet Epperson placed Beets on paid leave Aug. 6 and is
asking the board to fire her.
The city alleges that Beets has used sick time or served on light-
duty assignment for more than half of her career with the
department.
From January of this year through Aug. 5, Beets used 918 hours of
sick time, the equivalent of 114 eight-hour days, and did light duty
for 252.5 hours.
In 2006, she used 1,405 hours of sick time, the equivalent of 175
eight-hour days.
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12-01-2007 04:38 PM
Both sides met in court Thursday and agreed to argue their case
before Judge Ed Prochaska at 1 p.m. Oct. 4. The city wants the
For now, the commission will move forward with the disciplinary
hearings. The three-member panel meets at 6 p.m. Monday at the
Fire Department, 204 S. First St., to schedule hearings for the four
officers.
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12-01-2007 04:40 PM
The city’s Board of Fire and Police Commissioners has resolved two
of the four pending disciplinary cases against Rockford police
officers.
The case against officer Kevin Nordberg also has been resolved
internally, Giliberti said, though some details still need to be worked
out. A finalized agreement between the city and Nordberg should be
completed by the board’s Oct 22 meeting, he said.
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12-01-2007 04:42 PM
The city’s Fire and Police Commission meets next week to decide
whether a 10-year veteran of the Rockford Police Department is
physically unfit for her job.
“All of those absences, she has doctor’s excuses for,” said Beets’
lawyer, Tim O’Neil. “Her supervisors gave their approval in every
instance.”
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Police Department leaders believe its officers can be fired for using
too much sick time — even though the labor contract for the city’s
nearly 300 officers doesn’t specify how much is too much.
While the city concedes the contract is ambiguous, the case of one
officer charged with using too much sick time has once again
thrown the spotlight on the escalating animosity between Chief
Chet Epperson and his rank-and-file officers, two sides already at
odds over Epperson’s management style and discipline of officers.
Epperson placed officer Tonya Beets, 36, on paid leave Aug. 6 and
asked the city’s Fire and Police Commission to fire her for taking
“excessive” sick leave and light-duty assignment. The three-
member panel meets Dec. 1 to issue a decision.
Beets has used the equivalent of three years and four months of
sick leave since joining the department in 1997.
She told the commission last week she has weathered two
problematic pregnancies, two injuries in the line of duty and various
illnesses, including impacted wisdom teeth and kidney stones. Her
latest misfortune happened in August 2006 after a vacation. Beets
picked up a heavy piece of luggage and injured her wrist and
shoulder.
Multiple surgeries to mend the damage kept Beets from work for
more than 19 weeks last year and nearly all of the first eight
months of this year, she said last week.
“It’s not something Chet Epperson has recently brought up,” City
Attorney John Giliberti told the commission last week.
Past practice
The police union’s labor contract stipulates that “sick leave shall be
administered according to the past practice” of the city and the
union. Nowhere in the contract or in the department’s personnel
regulations does the city set forth a maximum amount of allowable
sick time.
“We just don’t have a hard rule,” said city Legal Director Patrick
Hayes.
For on-the-job injuries, the city’s practice has been to give officers
up to a year to return to work, Hayes said. Beets’ situation is more
complicated because she has used sick time for various illnesses
and injuries.
“The best way to explain the city’s position is that when an officer
has a lengthy sickness or absence due to a non-duty injury, when it
becomes clear the officer is not returning to duty, that’s when we
ask the officer to seek a disability pension,” Hayes said. “If the
officer won’t, we’re forced to say this officer isn’t fit and we need to
move to the next person on the hire list.”
“It’s common for a contract to say, ‘Let the past practice determine
how sick time is used,’ but more often I’ve seen the issue of
available sick time treated more precisely. Obviously, you’d want to
avoid litigation over what the past practice has been.”
The Rockford police union filed an unfair labor charge against the
city earlier this year, alleging that the city violated its contract by
unilaterally changing the way it deals with officers on long-term
medical leave for non-duty injuries. The city denied the complaint,
and the dispute was resolved last month.
The complaint against Beets says her excessive sick leave and light-
duty assignment “makes her unable to consistently do her job” and
that her continued employment with the Police Department is not in
the public’s best interest.
Through Aug. 5 of this year, Beets used 918 hours of sick leave —
the equivalent of almost 23 work weeks — and worked nearly 6½
weeks on light-duty assignments other than her job as a patrol
officer. Last year, Beets took 35 weeks of sick leave and worked
just 17 weeks in full capacity as a patrol officer. That time off was
because of a pregnancy and the wrist and shoulder injury she
incurred off-duty. Beets wasn’t able to take maternity leave last
year because she didn’t work enough hours during the previous
year to qualify.
Other ailments kept Beets away from work in previous years. For
example, she took 1,451 hours of sick time in 2000, although all
but 8.7 hours of that time was because of pregnancy complications,
Beets told the commission last week. In 2002, she used 548 hours
of sick time, of which 376.5 hours were because of a foot injury she
incurred on the job.
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The case is before the Fire and Police Commission for a decision.
The most stunning revelation to come out of information presented
so far is that the labor contract under which police officers work has
no maximum on how much sick time officers can take.
That’s a hard pill to swallow, and not one that’s likely to benefit
taxpayers or city employees, other than those who use a lot of paid
sick time. It’s not being judgmental of Beets or any other employee
to say that being unavailable to work more than one-third of the
time over a decade of employment is a lot of time during which
other people have to do your work. Does it meet the definition of
“excessive”? The commission will have to determine that.
Public and private employers are right to allow workers to take paid
sick time, and policies on sick time, worker compensation and
disability usually are clearly spelled out.
The vast majority of police officers have a stake in seeing that the
contract contains a reasonable policy on sick time. Both they, and
the public, deserve to have as many budgeted police positions as
possible filled by people who are ready and able to do them.
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The decision was part of a deal reached by the city and officer
Jason Bailey before the Fire and Police Commission could rule on his
future.
"The mayor and the chief directed that we seek any opportunity to
compromise on terms that were acceptable to the city," Patrick
Hayes, City Legal Director.
And finally he'll write a letter of apology to his family. The city and
police department.
"I'm very happy that the board that has taken under advisement
and allow us to accomplish that settlement agreement and that this
matter is resolved for officer bailey," says Hayes.
And although that will end Bailey's case with the commission. In the
letter he must also ask the Police Union's Vice President Bruce
Brannum and Detective Sergeant Bob Redmond to withdraw their
own complaints against Chief Epperson.
"We love our brother fraternally, Jason bailey but PBPA unit 6 is
bigger than Jason Bailey," says Aurelio DeLaRosa, Police Union
President.
"We will not withdraw those complaints. The chief has to go," says
DeLaRosa.
The board also went into closed session to talk about the
complaints brought against Chief Epperson.
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The problem is-- before they had started digging- they were
required by law to contact state officials.
"They know where all the water lines is at. Before anybody digs,
you're supposed to contact them" says Horn. "People are
required by law to and Mitchell and Kobler didn't. That's
the mistake that they made."
"It took about 6 water department guys and what I was told
about 4 hours to get it under control" says Horn.
Now the two men may have to shell out their own money. The
ICC is investigating the incident and could fine the city officials
thousands of dollars.
If that happens, Horn says Mitchell and Kobler could face even
more consequences in their own community.
"Folks were mad and upset about this. It kind of hurt the
trust in the city government."
News 3 tried to contact both Jim Mitchell and Jerald Kobler for
this story. They were unavailable for comment.
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GC Marciano I can't help but wonder what this documented crooked police
Copwatcher Extraordinaire chief was really burying?
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Cataclysm quote:
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Government, the Government Originally posted by GC505
should fear the People. I can't help but wonder what this documented
crooked police chief was really burying?
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Originally posted by Cataclysm
I thought the very same thing.
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officers.
The city also got widespread attention earlier this year when an
off-duty officer was charged with beating a female bartender,
an incident caught on videotape that Weis called "horrific."
Charges also were filed against other officers accused of beating
some businessmen at a downtown tavern.
Declaring that "no one is above the law," Weis said officers
would be disciplined or prosecuted if they break department
rules or the law. But he said accused officers should be treated
fairly.
"I've got to set the tone right from the beginning ... that this
type of behavior won't be tolerated," he said.
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"The one thing I'm proud of at the FBI is, although we're not
perfect, we do have a pretty good reputation of policing
ourselves," Weis said.
And that may be one of the biggest reasons Daley chose the 49-
year-old Weis, the head of Philadelphia's FBI office, to lead
Chicago's scandal-plagued police.
Weis will have to restore the public's trust after the scandals
that have plagued the department.
search for top-notch quality led him to look outside the city for
a new top cop.
Weis would not only oversee the city's 13,400 sworn officers
and the 5,000 people in civilian positions, but also fill the vacant
job of Chief Emergency Officer for the Office of Emergency
Management and Communications. While wearing two hats,
Weis would be paid $300,000 a year.
"You stop it with stern leadership. I have to set the tone right
from the beginning that that type of behavior won't be
tolerated," Weis said. "And I've got to put that through all the
command staff. I've got to pick a command staff that won't
allow that type of behavior."
Weis said he has been in the military and law enforcement for
his entire adult life, and understood the issues confronting the
Chicago Police Department well. At the news conference on his
appointment, Weis said discussed the need to combat gangs,
guns and drugs in many neighborhoods in the city, but also
noted that some officers had breached the public's trust, and,
"people's confidence in the department needs to be rebuilt."
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"The one thing I'm proud of at the FBI is ... we
do have a pretty good reputation of policing
ourselves," Weis said.
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
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Chicago Policeman Is Charged in Case of Murder-for-Hire
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for a funeral home owned by the officer's family, the police said
Friday.
The officer, Edward Leak Jr., 42, had opened a $500,000 life
insurance policy for the victim, Fred Hamilton, 35, naming himself
as the beneficiary, the police said. Two other people who
prosecutors say were the gunmen have been charged with murder.
Telephone records and a confession from one of those men led the
police to Officer Leak, officials said.
Mr. Hamilton was found shot several times on the night of Feb. 3,
2004, on the South Side of Chicago. Officers caught one man
running away, John Brown, 33, the police said. Mr. Brown's trial is
pending. A second man, Alfred Marley, 44, was arrested this year
and pleaded guilty after giving a videotaped confession implicating
Officer Leak, said John Gorman, a spokesman for Richard A.
Devine, the Cook County state's attorney.
Investigators found that there had been more than 600 telephone
calls between Officer Leak and Mr. Brown in the weeks before and
after the shooting, Mr. Gorman and a lawyer representing Mr.
Hamilton's family said.
The police said Mr. Hamilton had contacted Internal Affairs and said
Officer Leak was stealing money from his family's funeral home,
Leak & Sons. A warrant was out for Mr. Hamilton's arrest on
extortion charges, but he was killed before the police located him,
Mr. Gorman said.
State Farm Insurance has been sued by Mr. Hamilton's estate for
providing the motivation for the killing, said the family's lawyer,
Fredrick B. Barder.
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Edward Leak, 45, was given the sentence by Judge Diane Gordon
Cannon at the Cook County Criminal Courthouse.
A jury last month deliberated for six hours before finding Leak
guilty of hiring two men to kill Fred Hamilton — on whom Leak held
a $500,000 life insurance policy. One of the alleged hit men, John
Brown, stood trial with Leak and was also convicted.
Assistant State's Attorney Tom Mahoney last month said Leak “was
the mastermind who set up this entire hit on Fred Hamilton."
Hamilton, 35, was shot nine times Feb. 3, 2004. Officers arrested
Brown fleeing the scene. The other hit man, Alfred Marley, was
arrested later and pleaded guilty in exchange for a 27-year
sentence. Marley testified against Leak and Brown.
Leak has been in the Cook County Jail since July 15, 2005.
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You Paid For All The Food, And State's Attorney Office Ate It
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http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=39057
You can easily see the white boutonniere that has become McHenry
County State's Attorney Lou Bianchi's signature trademark.
Bianchi has had taxpayers pay for about $17,000 worth of candy,
cookies, chocolate, cakes, ice cream, soda pop, doughnuts, bagels,
coffee and meals for his well-fed office and Bianchi guests since
January 2005.
Bianchi says all of the expenses are a legitimate use of tax dollars,
pointing to food purchased for staff members who work very long
hours and candy used as part of the department's anti-drug
program, as examples.
Fine dining
It seems he took just about every police chief in the county out to
lunch along the way. Some got Pirro's or Biaggi's. Others had to
settle for Applebee's.
Did you know you taxpayers paid $219 for a visit to Portillo's and
$162 for a meal at Shaw's Crabhouse for the state's attorney's staff?
At the end of his first full year in office, Bianchi turned in one
receipt for almost $900 alone from one Sam's Club visit for cookies
and "fruit wheels."
Thankfully, we taxpayers only had to pay $3.41 for the Dairy Queen
trip.
Take March 7, 2007. We only had to pay $2.38 for the state's
attorney's coffee and a whole grain bagel. The day before we
taxpayers bought coffee for two of Bianchi's investigators and a
Blimpie's sandwich for his assistant.
One day we paid $143 for the state's attorney and eight staffers to
enjoy Pirro's.
Sweet deal
In her first full term as auditor, Pam Palmer says she was dismayed
to find the glut of meals and sweets on the state's attorney's
expenses that she analyzed after receiving the Freedom of
Information Act requests.
As it stands, an elected official like Bianchi can get repaid for those
expenses as long as they're within the budget approved by the
county board, Palmer said.
PR or politics?
Bianchi says those are legitimate costs and are part of his anti-drug
program.
"We're trying to reach out to children and save them from drugs so
we don't see them in court," Bianchi said, questioning why the
auditor's office previously approved reimbursement for some of
those candy expenditures.
Long days
Asked why taxpayers should buy his meals, Bianchi defended the
food costs by saying his staff works long days, as does he. "I work
from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and sometimes that's my lunch," he said of
the Dairy Queen bill. "I ask every lawyer to work extra time every
day. … They're giving an extra 3¼ weeks a year in exchange for $7
for dinner."
"If they're not legitimate, then the auditor should be sending them
back," Bianchi said, adding that one of the hefty lunches was for
civil division staffers to celebrate saving the county "millions of
dollars" in a lawsuit.
"It's not for me," he said of the food expenses. "It's for whoever I'm
with. I'm sure every public official does the same."
"I do not see this level of activity from other elected officials in the
county," said Palmer, who has now checked every elected McHenry
County official's reimbursement requests.
09-27-2007 08:41 PM
Palmer said she will meet with the state's attorney and county
officials to discuss the glut of payments discovered after this
newspaper filed Freedom of Information Act requests. More than
$17,000 of those expenditures were for meals, candy, doughnuts,
pop and other goodies, all paid for by taxpayers since early 2005.
"I will be talking to them," Palmer said. "I will be talking to them a
lot about petty cash and what goes through there."
The auditor stressed it's vital to use regular payment processes for
accurate record-keeping as well as an audit trail.
You decide
Bakery
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $32.55 Pirro's
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.35 Country Donuts
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $48.00 McHenry County
Council of Governments
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.00 Fast Eddie's
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.60 McHenry County
College
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.01 Sam's Club
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $28.02 Sam's Club
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.08 Portillo's
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $18.36 Barnelli's Pasta
Bowl
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $29.57 Woodstock
Public House
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $13.73 Swiss Maid
Bakery
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $16.80 Jewel
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $9.10 Move -
maintenance - Country Donuts
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.85 Salgado/McCleary
Mtg - Dunkin Donuts
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.20 SA Meeting
5/25/05 - Jewel
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $28.22 Coffee - SA
office - Wisted's
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $1.78 Napkins for office
- Jewel
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $50.00 Meeting -
attorney move - Woodstock Pub Hse
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $59.46 Mats, flashlight -
Sam's
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $67.08 Blimpies -
moving
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $23.34 Meeting -
Rhodes & Sarbaugh - Pirro's
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $37.23 Meeting -
Brophy & Chief Marvin - Jailhouse
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.00 Meeting -
McCleary/Salgado/Josh
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $9.92 Meeting re:
Mental Health Court - Atlanta Bread
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $1.50 Meeting re:
Mental Health Court Parking
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $463.79 Sam's -
Shelves
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $325.00 2005 Summer
Training Conference
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.88 Meeting re:
Mental Health Court D.Q.
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $39.97 Maintenance
movers - Sub Zero
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $12.10 Sam's - Coffee &
Creamer
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $60.10 Sam's - McAuliff
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.54 Jewel - McAuliff
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.25 Meeting - Country
Donuts
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.88 Meeting - Dunkin'
Donuts
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.54 Bohn's Ace
Hardware
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.87 Meeting - Dunkin
Donuts
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.58 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $548.32 Westin Hotel -
Summer Training Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.35 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $20.00 Panera Bread -
SA Seminar
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.02 Walmart - tool
box
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $26.14 Sam's Club -
Supervisor meeting
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.01 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.16 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $37.26 Cheesecake
Factory
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.61 Walgreens
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $8.92 Walgreens
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.90 McDonalds
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $34.96 Woodstock
Public House - Mtg. - press
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $18.19 Jewel -
Attorneys' meeting
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $50.31 Biaggi's -
Meeting Chief Laine
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.21 Wendy's - lunch -
Amy
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $35.00 Meeting with
Chief Regnier
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $16.66 Sam's - Staff
Meeting
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.00 Henny Penny -
Meeting with Chief Rydberg
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $8.85 Dunkin Donuts -
Munarello
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $51.38 Jewel - Foley
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $76.49 Panera - Mental
Health Court
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $12.94 Wisted's -
Reiman
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $140.00 Napoli's -
Reiman
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $55.47 Birthday Jubilee
- Reiman
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.31 Walmart - Reiman
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $116.64 Sam's Club
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $41.46 Jewel
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $31.90 Borders
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $43.49 Meeting with
Chief - Algonquin/LITH
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.39 Jewel
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.50 Sam's Club
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.87 Best Buy
VD224484 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $29.61 Sam's
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.20 Jewel
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.38 Jewel
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $143.32 Pirro's
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.25 Country Donuts
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.00 Meeting Chief
Sauers
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $27.95 Meeting Chief
Bero
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $19.00 Meeting with
Chief Downing
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.38 Jewel
VD224884 320539 09/26/05 BIANCHI LOU $42.57 Sam's
VD224884 320539 09/26/05 BIANCHI LOU $882.54 Sam's
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.81 Three Brothers -
lawsuits
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $27.00 Chief Lunch - Lt.
Lynch - Union
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $21.30 The Flag Store
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $82.56 Popeyes -
Meeting - Finance
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.96 The Jailhouse -
personnel meeting
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $20.87 Jewel
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.00 Jewel
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.81 Three Brothers
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $28.60 Union Pacific
and Cabs
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.50 Sam's
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $109.50 Car
Maintenance
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $1,407.09 SA
Conference Expenses
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.18 Prime Hoffman
Meeting
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $23.44 Meeting with
Chief Smith
VD225684 322572 11/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $27.10 Country Donuts
- Mental Health Meeting
25,992.44
09-27-2007 08:52 PM
The state's attorney says the large amounts are due to the lack of a
county credit card forcing him to pay out of pocket for office
expenses.
"We do not have a county credit card," Bianchi said. "As a result, I
advance every expense in the office for every attorney in the office.
"Those aren't my expenses. Every expense in this office has to be
advanced."
Why isn't the auditor bouncing them back?," Bianchi asked. "The
whole purpose of the audit is to review the bills."
"It's not just for me, but for whoever I'm with," Bianchi said. "I'm
sure every elected official does the same.
Palmer said she will meet with the state's attorney and county
officials to discuss the glut of payments discovered after this
newspaper filed Freedom of Information Act requests. More than
$17,000 of those expenditures were for meals, candy, doughnuts,
pop and other goodies, all paid for by taxpayers since early 2005.
"I will be talking to them," Palmer said. "I will be talking to them a
lot about petty cash and what goes through there."
The auditor stressed it's vital to use regular payment processes for
accurate record-keeping as well as an audit trail.
09-27-2007 09:12 PM
The fallout sent the McHenry County Auditor home in tears last
week. That sure seems like poor pay for just doing her job.
Not that there's anything wrong with a public official upset about
wrongdoing to talk to the press, but Palmer didn't come to the
media (meaning me.)
I had heard that Palmer had rejected some of Bianchi's requests for
reimbursement for parade candy. Although Bianchi stands by his
belief that candy should be covered as part of his drug education
efforts, every other political figure seems to know that those are
considered political expenses, not something to ask taxpayers to
pay for.
The radar went off when I noticed he'd previously paid for that
candy out of his campaign funds. So I asked for more documents to
do a little double checking. Much to my amazement and,
apparently, the auditor's, those documents showed huge
expenditures for candy, doughnuts, soda pop and meal after meal.
I wonder why.
He said the auditor and Bianchi's assistant are sorting out a better
process for that office and that he hopes the solution will work for
all county offices. Of immediate concern, he said, they'll work to
end the use of the "petty cash" account.
"It was called petty cash, but it was used to run the operation,"
Koehler said.
Along the way, I hope they'll ask for lots more answers, including:
• Why did the state's attorney have taxpayers pay $100 for a
gift certificate to Dunhill's, one of McHenry County's nicest
restaurants?
Huntley Fall Fest when, in fact, it only cost $250 for his booth?
Asked again why taxpayers should pick up the tab for meals, coffee,
doughnuts, etc. for his office, the state's attorney defended the
practice because of the long hours required of his staff.
"If the county board changes its policy, we'll do whatever the policy
is," Bianchi said. "If the auditor has problems with our bills, she
should send them back."
Sometimes when people are on the hot seat, especially when their
jobs are on the line, they overreact, become defensive, go on the
attack. And, sometimes, people use the uncomfortable spot as an
opportunity to look at how they can do things better.
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The teen was walking with two young women in an alley near
1928 S. May St. when he was approached by Gallegos and
another man. Gallegos identified himself as a police officer and
accused the teen of getting his son in trouble, prosecutors said
in court Sunday.
"He grabbed [the teen] about the body and shoved him up on a
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prosecutor in court. After Cardenas fell to the ground, he and
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Judge: Release cop list
The city of Chicago cannot keep secret a list of 662 police officers
with more than 10 official complaints lodged against each of them
between 2001 and 2006, a federal judge has ruled.
The list could figure into the ongoing debate over whether the city
should change the way that complaints of police misconduct are
investigated and how officers are disciplined.
The list would allow the public to see which police units have the
largest number of officers with multiple complaints against them
and if the officers were referred into "early warning" programs.
Last week, U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ordered the city to
release the list. The information was gathered by attorneys for a
woman who sued the city, claiming she was abused by officers.
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mr.b These swine will fight tooth and nail to keep personnel files locked
Senior Member up and out of the public eye. I will be asking for personnel files
pretty soon and I know they will fight me. I can use this judges
opinion for my case now!!! Cops still think they are the secret
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Secret Police Misconduct List About To Go Public
CHICAGO (WBBM) -- The city has one week to act, before a secret
list is made public that contains the names of more than 600
Chicago police officers who have had more then ten citizen
complaints filed against them over the last few years.
A federal judge last week ruled the documents should not been kept
secret, and after the city filed an emergency motion to try and keep
the list sealed until it has the chance to appeal, the judge Monday
gave City Hall a one week stay.
Lawyers suing the city say the timing of this all is significant
because Chicago aldermen July 19th will open a debate on whether
the department's Office of Professional Standards should be
reformed.
The lawyers suing the city claim it paid its attorneys yesterday to
try and get the documents sealed from both the public and Chicago
aldermen and that the judge denied that request.
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CHICAGO POLICE | List of officers with more than 10 complaints
remains a secret
A week ago, U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ordered the city to
release the list, but the city appealed. On Monday, just before the 5
p.m. deadline that Lefkow imposed for the documents to be
released, the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted the city a
stay that keeps them secret until the court can decide if they are
public.
A spokeswoman for the city's Law Department did not return a call,
but in court papers the city argues that the documents should not
be released because they did not become part of the court
proceedings in Bond's lawsuit and would invade the officers'
privacy.
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Report: Complaints About Elite Officers 'Disproportionate'
Chicago Tribune Reports On State's Attorney's Office Investigation
Of CPD
The newspaper reported that the top four police officers on the list
were all members of the Special Operations Section. Those officers
each had 50 or more misconduct complaints against them in the
past five years.
U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ordered the city to make the list of
officer complaints public last week, but the city appealed. The 7th U.
S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday granted a stay to let the city
keep the list secret until judges decide what to do about the case.
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4 officers from elite Chicago police unit top list of
misconduct allegations
The high numbers, reported by the Chicago Tribune, are the latest
black mark on a troubled department. Chicago police have been
under fire for several recent incidents, including two videotaped
beatings involving off-duty officers at bars and the indictments of
six officers in a Special Operations Section on charges ranging from
burglary to armed violence.
The records had been kept secret by court order after they were
turned over to plaintiffs in a federal civil rights lawsuit in which
several police officers were accused of brutality.
U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ruled last Monday that the public
had a right to see the documents, but the city appealed. The 7th U.
S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday granted a stay to let the city
keep the list secret until judges decide what to do about the case.
"It would be unfair to assume that all complaints fall into the more
severe categories," she said.
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But even as the city pledged more transparency, its lawyers were
fighting in federal court to keep private the names of hundreds of
officers who have had multiple citizen complaints filed against them
in recent years.
“As the data show, the Chicago Police Department has proven it is
utterly incapable of policing itself,” said Craig Futterman, a civil
rights lawyer involved in a case that produced the document with
the officers’ names. “Behind each scandal there are all these
warning signs that are ignored.”
It has been a tough year for the department and its 13,600 officers.
An off-duty officer was caught on videotape beating a female
bartender. In another incident, also captured on videotape, a group
of off-duty officers was seen beating four businessmen at a
downtown bar. In addition, several officers in an elite unit are
awaiting trial on charges that include home invasion, theft and
armed violence, as county prosecutors continue to investigate the
unit.
“Some people believe we don’t need this kind of reform,” Mr. Daley
said after the Council approved the ordinance, 48 to 0. “Others
believe we haven’t gone far enough. We need to take this step and
give it time to work.”
The list names more than 600 officers who had more than 10
complaints filed against them during a five-year period. It was
unearthed during a lawsuit brought by a resident of a public
housing complex against five officers assigned to patrol her housing
unit. The case was settled this year for $150,000.
Jamie Kalven, the journalist, intervened in the case earlier this year
seeking to make public the reams of information the city had turned
over to the resident’s lawyers. A federal judge ruled that the
information should be made public. The city has appealed the
ruling, and the names will remain under seal until a federal appeals
court weighs in.
The city’s counsel, Mara S. Georges, said making the names public
would be unfair to the officers and would threaten the integrity of
“These officers were not parties to this litigation,” said Ms. Georges,
who on Tuesday distributed copies of the list to city aldermen with
the officers’ names blacked out. “They have no ability to defend
themselves.”
Mr. Futterman said the court battle made for a bitter irony: “While
the mayor has claimed this ordinance is necessary to create an
open, more accountable police department, he’s having his lawyers
fight tooth and nail to keep the very same information from the
press and public, the very same information needed to create a
more open and transparent police department.”
Mr. Futterman added, “If we treated civilian crime the same way we
investigate police abuse in Chicago, we’d never close a case.”
“You need good policies on the use of force,” Professor Walker said.
“You need a well-developed internal affairs process for investigating
misconduct; you need an early intervention system to spot officers,
and you need an independent auditor. It’s a whole package.”
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Officers Paul Powers and Greg Barnes are accused of beating four
men at the Jefferson Tap on December 15. The victims' attorney
says the bar's security camera caught the attack on tape.
Powers and Barnes were arraigned this morning. Both pleaded not
guilty to aggravated battery charges.
The third officer charged, Sergeant Jeffery Planey, did not appear in
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Video shows Chicago officers fighting with men at bar
The television station did not indicate how it obtained the video,
which police have declined to release.
The bar's 10 security cameras did not capture the alleged assault
for which the officers have been charged, WFLD reported. But the
video does show the officers fighting with the men near the bar's
pool table and one officer taking a man's cell phone outside the bar
afterward.
"I think the release of the tape was inappropriate and improper and
could potentially have the effect of diminishing my client's ability to
have a fair trial," said Powers' lawyer, Lori Lightfoot. "We will not
try the case in the media. It will be tried in a court of law."
Planey, 33, has been charged with one count each of obstruction of
His attorney, Tom Needham, has said Planey was telling the officers
to slow down because "there was no need for a bunch of police
officers to go charging in there with their weapons drawn."
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Video Shows Bar Brawl At Center Of Police Scandal
As CBS 2’s Mike Parker reports, days before Christmas last year,
several off-duty Chicago cops are shown on tape in the Jefferson
Tap and Grille. One of them, Officer Paul Powers, was upset over a
death in the family and was being consoled by the others. Later as
he got up to leave - for some reason - one of his friends removes
Powers' weapon from his waistband.
Moments later there are words between the officers and some
patrons playing pool. One cop sweeps all the balls off the table, and
the brawl begins. There was pushing and shoving and Officer
Gregory Barnes shoved one of the patrons, who landed on the floor.
"You get a flavor from the tape that these officers went beyond the
limit,” said CBS 2 Legal Analyst Irv Miller. “They were doing things
they shouldn't have done."
"Clearly this officer knew what was coming,” Miller said. “He knew
this guy was calling for help. He knew his livelihood was in jeopardy
and wasn't going to let it happen.”
The same camera was rolling as Planey later appeared to wave off
arriving police units. The officers follow the order and leave. That
action was what led to charges of official misconduct against Planey.
The three officers are not only facing criminal charges, they're also
the targets of a civil lawsuit filed by the alleged victims.
The four businessmen say the attacks were unprovoked and that
they suffered broken bones, bruises and back injuries.
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The student's mother is frustrated with the school, the police officer
and Henry County's state's attorney.
Because this case involves a minor, the school, the police and the
state's attorney can't share a lot of information. But the teenager
and her mother have come forward.
'you want to look elegant.' She says, 'do it. I dare ya right here.'
That's when she came up, whipped my glasses across the room,
held my head back like that, just punched me right in the eye. I
started crying. I admit, it hurt so bad."
Ariel is 16 years old. Her mother, Marje Hood, says she is frustrated
that the school allowed this to happen and that the state's attorney
has not arrested Officer Sandra Trussen.
Hood says Ariel not only suffered a black eye, she also had bruises
on her wrists and back.
Hood says she wants justice. "This police officer needs to be held
accountable for her actions her lies and what she did to my
daughter."
"This is a good officer who made one mistake and lost her temper.
She's got to pay for that mistake, but I certainly hope she doesn't
have to pay for it for the rest of her life."
Officer Trussen's attorney says she doesn't blame the victim and
knows her actions were inappropriate. The officer says during the
altercation, Ariel said she would burn her house down. Trussen says
she had a barn fire and lost many of her possessions and that is
what caused her to react so emotionally.
Ariel is now in a new school and says she wants to put everything
behind her. "I have two months left on probation. I've been on
probation for four years. I've been good. I want to just be done
with it, done with court, done with costing my mom all this money."
school lied.
Again, the school can not speak about either charge against Ariel or
the officer because it involves a minor.
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Member temper. She's got to pay for that mistake, but I certainly
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Cop pleads guilty to striking cuffed girl
Ms. Trussen was on duty at the school when the incident happened
on Jan. 11.
Mr. Patton said the girl, who was 16 at the time, had left her room
when she wasn't supposed to and refused to return. The principal
asked for Ms. Trussen's help, Mr. Patton said.
He said the girl spat on Ms. Trussen and Ms. Trussen took the girl's
glasses off, 'tossed them on the desk and punched her in the face
while the girl was handcuffed and sitting on the floor.
'I didn't prosecute the case because I had sympathy for the girl. I
prosecuted the case, because you can't allow officers to punch
people who are in handcuffs.
Ms. Goepper's mother, Marje Hood, Kewanee, said she was not
'All the bills have been placed for collection on my credit report,'
Ms. Hood said. 'I do not have medical insurance.
'I'm very angry. She (Ms. Trussen) got off very lightly. The state's
attorney's office does not care. Lisa Madigan's office does not care.'
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District 9 Capt. James Wolf said Tuesday that the goal is to seek
voluntary compliance in such matters as seat belt laws, speed limits
and "Scott's Law," which requires drivers to slow down when police,
fire and ambulance vehicles are providing assistance on the roads.
The "Stay Alive on I-55" saturation detail - which will span 300
miles and require at least 30 troopers - coincides with the the start
of the Memorial Day weekend. During that weekend in 2006, 47
crashes on Interstate 55 resulted in one death and eight injuries.
"Stay Alive on I-55" will focus on what police call the "fatal five":
speeding, failing to use seat belts, driving under the influence,
improper lane usage and following too closely.
Wolf said the idea came from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, which
ran a similar patrol along Interstate 40.
05-23-2007 05:51 PM
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05-23-2007 05:57 PM
liberranter Arizona's porky posse is going even further. Since this state
Super Moderator doesn't have a "primary" seatbelt law (that is, they can't cite
you just for not wearing a seatbelt), they're going to be pulling
people over for "random safety checks" at select locations to
provide them with an excuse for citing people for not "buckling
up."
You may not hear from me for a while after this weekend, and
when you do I'm sure I'll have some interesting stories to
relate, because in the event that I encounter one of these
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05-23-2007 07:40 PM
Wow. How long before that pours over into our homes? Do you
have any more information on it?
05-23-2007 08:24 PM
mr.b I love it when you talk dirty liberanter!!!LOL Here in California they
Senior Member started their click or tick campaign again and the local porkos are
hot citing for this meanwhile the local burglar is having a feel day!!!!
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05-23-2007 08:26 PM
Maxima Here is a video from the a St. Louis news station about this I55 deal.
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http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages...TY&pageId=3.1.1
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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by Rylan 2.0
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05-23-2007 08:56 PM
Rylan 2.0 Awful. Anyone who does that for a paycheck is a scumbag.
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Oh no it's not about making money but for our safety!!!!
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That's what the boy's mother, Donna Moore, believes happened last
Saturday when the angry father stormed the Kellogg School
playground.
Moore and several people who witnessed the incident have filed a
complaint with the Office of Professional Standards alleging that
Robert Smith used excessive force against the 11-year-old.
"I was hysterical," said Moore, who ran to the playground at 92nd
and Leavitt in Beverly when her 13-year-old daughter called from a
cell phone.
Still, most parents have been there. Their son or daughter runs
home and says someone jumped them, and the parent goes looking
for the alleged assailant. But most parents have learned the hard
way that it is unwise to get directly involved in childhood squabbles.
"The police officer should not have intervened," a police source told
me. "You don't do that."
"This man was telling the police officers to arrest my son while they
were trying to find out what happened. When they couldn't make a
decision, a sergeant was called," Moore said.
"The officers finally handcuffed my son and put him in a patrol car,"
Moore said. "Smith wouldn't even talk to them. He was just barking
orders. Then the sergeant comes up and talks to Smith and decides
to arrest my children."
"I couldn't believe that this police officer came out on the
playground and attacked my son based on something like that,"
Moore said.
If Smith grabbed an 11-year-old boy, roughed him up, and had him
arrested because of a playground scuffle -- he crossed the line that
separates concerned parents from dangerous ones.
05-08-2007 12:00 PM
GC Marciano I'll bet that 11 year old child scared the living crap outta that
Copwatcher Extraordinaire pussy-assed cop.
That's the typical Chicago cop for ya... Cowards that beat on
women and children.
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liberranter It's unfortunate that the kid hadn't been taught to kick the guy
Super Moderator in the nuts. That's the quickest way for any kid to end an
assault by an abductor/molester (uniformed or not); always
aim for the crotch and kick hard.
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class.
"At the very last sentence, I said that this teacher's method of
teaching could lead to a school shooting," Lee said Wednesday.
He said he'd intended the entire essay as a joke.
"We think they have been too harsh," Albert Lee said
Wednesday. "Every story has two sides."
The charges come less than two weeks after Virginia Tech
senior Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people and then himself on the
Blacksburg, Va., campus. Cho had written violence-drenched
plays in his creative writing class.
Allen Lee faces disciplinary action, said Jeff Puma, a District 155
spokesman.
"It raised some flags," Puma said. "I think, in this case, the
teacher chose to err on the side of caution and, I think, rightly
so."
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GC Marciano The school essay did not bother me as it did not include any
Copwatcher Extraordinaire threat whatsoever. It was simply a fictional story.
However, the arrest of Mr. Lee for his harmless, fictional essay
both alarms and disturbs me enough to provoke a breach of the
peace.
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All I can think of about this arrest is: OMG, what has this nation
become?
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05-01-2007 02:14 AM
JmE
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05-01-2007 03:05 AM
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Is Lee's race of any relevance to this case?
Thoughts?
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I was thinking the same thing but being a Rev. I did not want to be
the first to publicly consider the 'race card'.
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After posting, I literally just received this email from one of my old
medical school buddies.
(Sorry about going off topic GC505... I actually did receive this joke
right after my other post.)
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Posts: 9967 (CBS) MARENGO -- Some teens are claiming a suburban cop is
abusing the badge -- and they point to a videotape to prove he
doesn't protect and serve, he only pounds and punches.
Sherber and brothers Brian and Kevin Gaughn are three of five
Marengo teens who plan to file a lawsuit against the Marengo
Police Department and Officer Crawford.
Kevin Gaughan said, "I was shocked how the cop was acting. I
was scared. Yeah, it was definitely out of control.”
The brothers say they were beaten after smarting off to Officer
Crawford last year at a state fair when he asked for their ID's.
“He gave us our ID's back. He says, ‘you guys have two seconds
to walk away and get out of here,’ I said, ‘okay, walking away
one, two’ and something snapped and he just runs over to me
swearing, 'you mother... ,'" Kevin said.
She says she still has the scars allegedly inflicted by Crawford
and a police dog. All, she says, because she was suspected of
drinking alcohol at a high school football game and resisting
arrest. “He tackled me to the ground, he sat on me, he lifted me
up by my handcuffs and ripped me out of the car by my ankles,"
she said.
Crawford has been suspended from his Marengo police job. He's
also charged with violating policy during a high-speed chase.
Crawford's attorney would only say they plan on taking his side of
the cases to the police board.
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07-13-2005 08:47 AM
The Marengo Board of Fire and Police Commissioners has set the
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07-13-2005 05:27 PM
chitownbrian Even though Scott Crawford lost his cop job in Waukegan for
Senior Member brutality, and is in the process of being fired from Marengo Police
Department, he is still working as a part-time cop in Round Lake
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Posts: 103 It's great to see that several different municipalities get to enjoy
Crawford's excellent style of policing.
07-14-2005 12:09 AM
But that could be the least of the city's problems. Crawford shouldn't
wear a badge nor be allowed to carry a loaded gun.
Crawford left the Waukegan force but not before city officials agreed to
stay silent on a $30,000 judgment involving Crawford. Officials said he
resigned in good standing, even though the city settled a civil-rights
lawsuit filed by the immigrant man whom Crawford knocked around.
hassle.
I'm familiar with two cases involving officers whose poor behavior
called into question their ability to serve and protect.
The state police decided to reopen the probe of the Gaughan brothers'
arrests after learning about new statements from witnesses.
Brothers Kevin and Brian Gaughan have their own legal problems.
Both have been charged with disorderly conduct, and Brian is accused
of felony battery.
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One. Two.
One. Two.
He approached the men and told them they had two seconds to
break it up.
In his two years on Marengo’s force, Crawford has been the subject
of six investigations, two for excessive force.
So, their father, former Arlington Heights police officer and current
“We raised our children to believe what’s right is right and that’s it,”
Gaughan Sr. said. “There’s no compromise. You don’t admit you did
something you didn’t do so you don’t get your hand slapped as hard.
That’s not the way the system is supposed to work. If we have to sell
the house to finance this, that’s what we’ll do.”
Fighting back
Gaughan Sr. initially took a different tack in trying to clear his sons’
names. Within days of the arrest, the Gaughan family asked Marengo
Police Chief Les Kottke to contact the Illinois State Police and begin
an investigation into whether Crawford used excessive force.
“He does a great job for me,” Round Lake Heights Police Chief Don
Johnson said.
One. Two.
One. Two.
“They just told us to break it up and that we both had two seconds or
two minutes to get off the property, or else we were going to jail,”
Scott said in a sworn statement. “And Brian just started walking
away.
After Gaughan said he looked back and mouthed off with the “One,
Two” remark, Crawford told him to stop, that he was under arrest.
Gaughan fell to the asphalt, landing first on his knees and then on his
face.
“Crawford then grabbed him, kind of tripped him and threw him to
the ground,” said 19-year-old Adam J. Johnson in a sworn statement
to Ciolino.
Crawford said when he grabbed Gaughan’s wrists to get him off the
ground, Gaughan dug his fingernails into Crawford’s wrists.
“As they are turning to shut the door, Officer Crawford … pushed him
into the wall,” 15-year-old Michael Hensley said in a sworn statement.
“As I walked through the door, my arms were lifted up and forced
forward, causing my head to hit the wall extremely hard,” Gaughan
said in his complaint to the state police. “I asked, ‘Why did you do
that?’ and Crawford replied, ‘I didn’t, you did.’æ”
Drive, determination
Waukegan job for “personal reasons” and answered “No” when asked
if he had ever been forced to resign.
“He was a young officer who had a couple of problems where he had
been, and there was some concern,” said former Marengo police
commission head Pat Shelton.
Within six months, he was named to the McHenry County Gang Task
Force, a post he held until his recent suspension.
Videotaped abuse
The license plates on the worn Chevy Cavalier he had recently bought
weren’t his. So when a police car pulled up behind him, he later told
police, he left the keys in the ignition and walked away.
The man’s neighbor had gotten up to use the bathroom about 2:30 a.
m., saw the police car pull up and Gonzalez-Suarez walk toward his
home.
The neighbor told police he heard the officer yell at and then handcuff
Gonzalez-Suarez during the 2001 incident.
“The officer then began yelling in Jose’s face,” a police report said.
“(The neighbor) could not make out the words. (The neighbor) then
observed the officer strike Jose to the side and back of his head with
an open hand three times.”
The neighbor got his video camera. As the neighbor and his wife talk
in hushed tones, the officer on the videotape steps out of his squad
car and opens the back door.
“It appeared Officer Crawford is having words with Mr. Gonzalez,” the
police report obtained by the Daily Herald reads. “Officer Crawford
then strikes Mr. Gonzalez with his left hand two separate times.”
“The proper procedure would have been to contact backup, wait for
them to arrive and then deal with the situation,” Mason wrote in a
memo. “This would have been the safe and proper way to handle this
matter. … Again, we do not want to stifle your dedication to
enforcement activities, but we are concerned about this type of
activity.”
Eight months after that arrest the Gaughan brothers went to the
Settlers’ Day festival.
More abuse?
Crawford later pulled her out of a squad car by her ankles, she said,
slamming her head on the ground after she kicked at the car’s
window.
A police family
The family doesn’t have a problem with law enforcement. The family
is law enforcement.
In 1984, after she had been on the Davenport force for 10 years, and
he for four, they decided to settle in Marengo.
He took a job with the Arlington Heights Police Department, and she
worked for the Bartlett and Bull Valley police departments, and
Motorola before becoming a jail guard.
“I’ve been around policemen my whole life and I’ve never seen
anything as appalling as what happened to my own children,” Carolyn
Gaughan said.
What next?
One. Two.
One. Two.
Of his sons, Gaughan Sr, said, “We’re not going to have their career
paths derailed because of this rogue policeman.”
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An investigation has begun into whether the Illinois State Police acted
appropriately while looking into an excessive force complaint against
a Marengo police officer, according to a letter signed by state police
Director Larry Trent.
impartial.
Brian Gaughan Sr. claims to have given the state police the names of
more than 20 witnesses, and the Daily Herald has sworn statements
from numerous witnesses given to private investigator Paul Ciolino
that back up the Gaughans’ version of events.
“If somebody had 20 witnesses standing out there and didn’t bring
them forward to us, well, then I guess that’s their fault,” Kroncke
said in a previous interview.
Kroncke said that the charges against the Gaughan brothers for filing
a false report “had nothing to do with any people we talked to,” and
were based solely on discrepancies and alleged recantations in the
brothers’ statements to police.
While Brian Gaughan said the argument initially started over a stolen
skateboard, he said he later learned his 14-year-old brother’s friend
traded the skateboard for marijuana.
It reads almost the same as the one given a month earlier, except for
the last three lines: “Later on I heard that the argument was about
drugs. Brian told me after we met with the state police that the
argument was about drugs. Brian and I talked about what happened
after the incident.”
“I saw everything,” Kevin Gaughan said. “They just made that up.”
As to why the state police did not look into Crawford’s disciplinary
history, Kroncke said in April: “When we look into the allegation, we
look into that allegation. … It’s not our job to look into someone’s
job, rumors and innuendo.”
“Somebody wanted the state police and they got the state police, and
they got an impartial, non-prejudiced investigation,” Kroncke said.
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07-19-2005 02:09 AM
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07-19-2005 11:26 AM
07-19-2005 01:37 PM
By JOSH STOCKINGER
jstockinger@nwherald.com
When John Zitek picked up a newspaper last year and read about the
beating of a Marengo police officer in a DuPage County jail, he was
flabbergasted.
It wasn't the gruesome details that knocked him off his feet, he said,
but the words "police officer" printed before Joseph Sangirardi's
name.
The Marengo department and its former leaders have come under
scrutiny recently, as the checkered past of a different officer, Scott
Crawford, came to light.
Both former police Chief Larry Mason and former police and fire
commissioner Pat Shelton said they did not know Crawford resigned
from the Waukegan police force in 2001 in the wake of a civil-rights
lawsuit over the use of excessive force on a Mexican immigrant.
"[Mason] was the one creating the urgency," Shelton said. "He said
we needed the people, and the best way to get them was to hire the
people who had the credentials and were ready to go."
"I had heard some negative stuff about Waukegan, but when we
checked with the command over there, they gave him a clean bill of
health," Mason said.
"I definitely think that the commission, now and in the future, will be
much more careful, and I think there will probably be some people
who won't be hired that would have been hired," he said. "If anything
turns up now, you won't want to take a chance."
"I don't know how this man slipped through the cracks," Genot said.
"But when this is all over, the council should review the procedures to
make sure this doesn't happen again."
07-26-2005 12:25 AM
The complaints will range from negligent hiring by the city to the use
of excessive force, malicious prosecution, false arrest, and battery at
the officer's hands, attorney Kevin E. O'Reilly said.
The lawsuit will name brothers Brian and Kevin Gaughan, 22 and 19;
Steve Beisner, 17; Zachary McMackin, 17; and Nichole Surber, 16, as
complainants, O'Reilly said, and might include others.
"You don't usually get this many claims against the same person in a
small town like Marengo," he said. "I've never seen anything as bad
as this."
"There's two sides to every story," Crawford said. "I really want to
tell mine, but I've got to wait."
"The train has left the station, and it's heading right down to
Marengo," Ciolino said.
City officials said they took the news seriously but were not
surprised.
Mayor Don Lockhart said he had heard such legal threats since taking
office in April. He added that the ordeal would not bode well for
Marengo's finances, although the city had liability insurance.
Marengo Police Chief Les Kottke was unfamiliar with the majority of
the people who plan to file suit, he said. Only two of the five named
complained about Crawford since Kottke became chief last year, he
said.
That complaint came from the Gaughan family and prompted Kottke
to request a state police investigation into accusations that Crawford
roughed up the brothers at an October festival last year. The probe
cleared the officer of wrongdoing and led to the subsequent
indictment of the Gaughans on charges of falsifying a police report.
O'Reilly likely will file the civil lawsuit at the Northern District federal
court in Chicago, he said, and expects the case to be moved to
Rockford for jurisdictional purposes. He said he expected to file the
lawsuit by October.
08-11-2005 02:47 PM
Have fun.
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08-11-2005 07:42 PM
08-19-2005 02:58 AM
GC Marciano $66,000,000.00
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
The news media is having a blast with this one here in Northern
Illinois... Here are only a few of the latest news articles
concerning this forced accountability that is being brought upon
Marengo's braindead swine and their pig-protecting scumbag
cohorts in Marengo IL:
• http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...i-newslocal-hed
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Location: Chicago, Illinois • http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/081...ssiveforce.html
Posts: 9967
• http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/l..._228181047.html
• http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu...rce_city_o.html
• http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8975940/
• http://flyservers.com/members5/poli...is_police2.html
• http://207.126.126.11/includes/news...n_id=9&id=18071
• http://www.dailyherald.com/search/s...ry.asp?id=83371
• http://www.nbc5.com/news/4860039/detail.html
• http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu...rce_city_o.html
• http://www.kcchronicle.com/MainSect...93738537800.php
I hope they are forced to pay every last dime and the little
Crawford bitch ends up working the night shift at a local gas
station trying to pay his debt to society for the rest of his
worthless life.
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08-19-2005 04:05 AM
The complaint was filed in court on Monday, and also alleged that the
city and its former police chief were negligent and reckless in their
hiring and retention of him, NBC5's Natalie Martinez reported. The
plaintiffs' attorneys are seeking $1.5 million for each victim.
"By the end of the evening, both of my sons had been charged with
multiple felonies, and my son Brian had been brutally beaten and
assaulted by Officer Scott Crawford in front of over 20 eyewitnesses,"
said parent Brian Gaughan, Sr.
A private investigator hired by one of the parents said that the young
people were charged with felonies. Parents said Crawford, who is a
part-time officer in a nearby town, has also partly ruined their lives,
and much of their effort is to clear their families' names.
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08-19-2005 11:12 PM
The department wanted to fire him for lying on his job application
and fostering a hostile work environment. His resignation avoided a
public airing of the department’s case, and Crawford maintained his
innocence.
“I’m relieved it’s over,” the 26-year-old officer said. “I’m glad it’s
done. …. I did what was best for me and my family.”
This marks the second time Crawford has resigned from a police
department. In 2003 he left the Waukegan Police Department after
being videotaped beating a handcuffed suspect, according to
materials obtained by the Daily Herald.
What the resignation means for that lawsuit and criminal cases where
Crawford will likely be called as a witness remains to be seen.
Brothers Brian Gaughan, 22, and Kevin, 18, have a court appearance
at 9 a.m. today on charges they assaulted Crawford. The McHenry
County State’s Attorney’s office has said they would pay attention to
the hearing and decide whether it affects their case.
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By Charles Keeshan
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Posted Thursday, September 01, 2005
“His resignation will not affect our case,” she said. “We will call him
as a witness.”
They also face felony charges alleging they lied to state police
investigators looking into their claims Crawford abused them during
the arrests.
“If he takes the stand, I can’t imagine his lawyer would not tell him
to take the Fifth Amendment,” Norris said. “Realistically, it would be
very difficult to call him as a witness because of his credibility, but I
would look forward to asking him questions under oath.”
With regard to testifying at any trial and how that would go,
Crawford said, “That would be up to the state’s attorney.”
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09-01-2005 01:33 PM
jackcarter I am sure that most are aware that Crawford works in Round Lake
Junior Member Heights as a part-timer. I made several attempts to contact the
Chief there as well as the Mayor. I sent over 80 e-mails to the
Registered: Sep 2005 Round Lake H.S. teachers. Kind of funny how I have not received
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Navigatr1 jackcarter, could you please include the links with your news
Extended Sabatical stories? I would appreciate it very much. What is the link to where
you got your last story?
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09-02-2005 12:35 AM
chitownbrian I can help you out with that! The Daily Herald @ www.dailyherald.
Senior Member com & the Northwest Herald @ www.nwherald.com both have had
many, many stories on this case. All of the television stations in
Registered: Nov 2004 Chicago have also had the story on numerous times also. If you'd
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Marengo in google. The media link hits are many. Try "Brian
Gaughan Marengo Police" in Google. I hope I helped you out.
Thanks for your interest.
09-02-2005 12:43 AM
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09-02-2005 08:14 AM
The new claims, filed Monday in U.S. District Court, are part of a
larger multimillion-dollar civil rights suit brothers Brian and Kevin
Gaughan and four others filed last year against the city of Marengo,
two of its former police officers and its former police chief.
However, he noted that both state police and the McHenry County
The allegations against Kroncke and Schroeder also are the subject
of a pending legal decision as to whether county prosecutors can
use evidence of Gaughan’s purported recantation if their case goes
to trial.
The new allegations are the latest twist in an ongoing episode that
began in October 2004 when Kevin and Brian Gaughan, 22, were
arrested outside Marengo’s Settlers Days festival.
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10-08-2006 10:34 AM
chitownbrian What the Daily Herald article left out was that this entire episode
Senior Member was caught on cameras in the police station. The film clearly shows
Kevin Gaughan, a college student studying Criminal Justice, with no
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partner in crime, Virgil Schroeder, looks on.
10-12-2006 02:08 PM
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Mack I think a relative of the victim has posted a few articles and links
Assistant Moderator here somewhere, but I'm not sure where.
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10-16-2006 10:36 AM
Marengo Deputy Police Chief Joseph Hallman said he had not seen
the lawsuit Thursday and therefore could not comment. Mahlke,
who is now Wonder Lake’s police chief, could not be reached
Thursday.
The video has been the source of an ongoing legal battle in the case
of Marengo brothers Brian and Kevin Gaughan. The Gaughans, who
also are suing the city and state police agents, accused former
Marengo officer Scott Crawford of excessive force in 2004 after
their arrest at a city festival.
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The special agents’ boss, state police Master Sgt. Joe Perez, said he
was relieved, but not surprised, by the decision.
But Gaughan attorney Michael Norris said he does not believe a jury
will reach the same conclusions as Condon after seeing the
videotaped interrogation.
“I don’t believe any 12 people in this county are going to buy into
what Kroncke and Schroeder did in that video,” Norris said. “I
believe there is something seriously wrong in McHenry County that
handcuffed people keep getting smashed into walls.”
Hedio, 46, is the man shown, as some believe, being thrown to the
ground and knocked unconscious during the videotaped interview
with Kevin Gaughan. His lawsuit claims it was a punch from
Kroncke that knocked him out and he has a permanent brain injury
as a result. Kroncke, Schroeder and Mahlke have denied Hedio’s
claims.
“Agent William Kroncke did not punch Orest Hedio,” the judge said.
“The video does not depict any physical contact between the two
men.”
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10-16-2006 12:06 PM
chitownbrian Scott Crawford still doesn't get it. After having been shown the door
Senior Member from Waukegan, IL PD, and from Marengo, IL PD, he still has an
idea that he can somehow still be a cop.
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago area As usual, he lies on his application, and as usual, the departments
Posts: 103 he used to work for don't say why he is no longer employed there,
too afraid of being sued I imagine.
Scott Crawford must have been in his glory a few months ago,
when his application full of lies was picked to be hired as a cop in
Highwood, IL, a northern Chicago suburb. The only problem is that
people, a lot of people, have an interest in Crawford and soon
discovered his new job as a cop. Once the City of Highwood was
alerted to the thug/criminal/swine soon to be a lawsuit liability they
had working for them as a cop, they showed him the door. Kudos to
the City Of Highwood for doing the right thing.
10-24-2006 02:04 PM
Registered: Jun 2005 Surprise, surprise. This is, after all, Amerika.
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10-24-2006 02:15 PM
chitownbrian Yes, he did. We'll just have to wait and see what a jury of 12 thinks
Senior Member about the video. I am quite certain they won't have the same dim-
witted corrupt view as Condon did. The tape of the slapping and the
Registered: Nov 2004 beating has been widely circulated. I have had replies from many,
Location: Chicago area many people, including, surprisingly, a large number (more then a
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dozen) cops. Every single one has said things along the line of "I
would get fired in my department for that, I would get arrested for
that, " Etc, etc, Etc. But not here in McHenry County, IL. Here, the
swine and the courts do as they please. Stay tuned, I will keep you
posted. The IL State Police Officer ewho did the slapping, and
knocked the handcuffed man out is William Kroncke. Punch him into
Google to learn about him.
10-24-2006 02:21 PM
liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by chitownbrian
Scott Crawford still doesn't get it. After having
been shown the door from Waukegan, IL PD,
and from Marengo, IL PD, he still has an idea
that he can somehow still be a cop.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...?threadid=16713
This one about the Plainfield, PA cop who lied on his app about
being a New Jersey cop is another:
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...?threadid=16653
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"It isn't that nothing can be done, because when we got this
case, nothing had been done," Boyle said. "It certainly put
issues on the table that we have no power to deal with."
investigation.
Egan and Boyle blame former Police Supt. Richard Brzeczek and
former assistant State's Attorney William Kunkle for not
properly investigating the claims of torture by Andrew Wilson
before the statute of limitations ran out.
Wilson said Burge, who was one of the arresting officers, was
not in the room at Area 2 where he was beaten by several
officers who began kicking, slapping and hitting with their fists
after his February 1982 arrest for the murders. Detectives then
put a plastic bag over his head and burned him on the arm with
a cigarette.
Wilson filed a civil right suit naming Brzeczek, Burge, the City of
Chicago and other police officers. The first trial ended in a hung
jury, a second jury found Wilson's constitutional rights had been
violated but exonerated all of the police officers.
"He did not talk to people about it and that's the problem,"
Boyle said.
Kunkle, who represented Burge in two civil rights trials and his
case against the city for his 1991 firing, was not available for
comment, his staff said Wednesday.
"We didn't deem it would have made any difference," Boyle said.
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"It's a sad situation when you have to arrest one of your own, but
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Pelo said he was looking at homes for his mother-in-law and wasn't
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The lawsuit alleged that officers did not arrive until about 15
minutes after the first officers were dispatched to the White's
home on the city's South Side four years ago.
The lawsuit says the first two officers should have arrived in
just a few minutes and had they done so they would have got
there before the 31-year-old mother of three was killed.
Lawyers for White's family say two Chicago police officers were
simply negligent.
White called 911 four times that night. After the first call, two
police officers accepted the assignment, but did not rush to her
home.
On the tape, White can be heard asking, "Where are you?" and
saying her "husband has a gun." After her last scream, there is
only silence.
"When you compare that to her first call, where she's somewhat
calm, she's assuming they're going to be there. She's
counting on them to be there. By the fourth call, she realizes
death is probably just a few seconds away," attorney Kathleen
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"As we sit here today, we know that Ronyale White did not die
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But in April the state supreme court ruled officers could be sued
under the act and that led the way to the city's settlement.
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06-29-2006 01:36 AM
liberranter From the reputation of the CPD, it's a wonder the cops didn't
Super Moderator join in with the estranged husband in finishing the woman off.
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liberranter This is another case that would make a great test of the "hold
Super Moderator them personally liable" theory. That is, let the two porkos
involved fork up the 4.2M in damages out of their own pockets/
property/future earnings.
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"The longer I was there," she said last week, "the more I realized
that was true."
Not long afterward she filed the federal lawsuit naming the village
and three veteran police sergeants.
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Mack I sure don't feel sorry for her, and I'm pretty much sickened that
Assistant Moderator she got such an exorbitant sum.
I'd bet two million dollars that this bitch is indeed a bitch, only now
she's a lazy bitch.
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06-14-2006 05:24 PM
liberranter The saddest thing about this is that the two million-dollar
Super Moderator judgment isn't going to hurt the Mokena PD or the asshole
copscum at fault; it's the taxpaying citizens of the town of
Mokena who are going to get screwed royally.
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Mack quote:
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Originally posted by chitownbrian
How many normal men OR women want to be
cops? I'd venture to say just about none. The key
word there is NORMAL.
Registered: Jul 2003 You're right about that. I confess, though, to being kind of sexist-
Location: female cops and female firemen (I can't bring myself to use the
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term 'firefighters') bother me. Not least because whatever
standards apply are so often waived for them.
In any event, you gotta admit that few women could carry an
average guy for any distance at all. Carrying people seems to be a
capability that might be handy for a fireman to have.
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The felony cases against Zola and Tipps are pending. Vaughn said
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CHICAGO (AP) -- The last two inmates who remained missing after
six escaped from the Cook County Jail surrendered early Monday at
the end of a long siege by a SWAT team and intermittent talks with
police negotiators.
Before the two were brought out, reporters on the scene saw
officers lead a woman in handcuffs from the besieged building. The
last of the five children who had been in the apartment when the
standoff began was led to safety.
Francisco Romero, 23, who is charged with murder, also was in the
apartment, but he surrendered late Sunday and brought two young
children out with him.
Two other inmates were captured Sunday about 7 miles from the
jail in Oak Park. Another inmate was arrested Sunday evening, said
Chicago police spokeswoman JoAnn Taylor.
The men escaped late Saturday from a special unit at Cook County
Jail for inmates with disciplinary problems. One guard was on duty
instead of two because of staffing shortages, said county Sheriff's
Department spokesman Bill Cunningham.
One inmate threw hot water from a shower on the guard and held
him at bay with a homemade knife, then handcuffed the guard and
put on his uniform, officials said.
That inmate was caught after opening doors to let the other six
inmates out. They got over a barbed wire fence and onto the
streets.
It was the second jail break since Friday. An inmate facing armed
robbery charges broke out Friday by apparently slipping into a
laundry truck, but he was arrested Saturday at a suburban motel,
authorities said.
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Navigatr1 The Cook County Jail seems to have had a rash of jail breaks lately.
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Representatives for the sheriff's office, which controls the jail, did
not immediately return calls Tuesday from The Associated Press.
Also Tuesday, the Police Department said its officers received a tip
about an escape plot at the jail hours before the breakout.
She would not elaborate, and the sheriff's office did not return calls.
"An officer is going to sacrifice his life or family for political gain for
somebody else? It's beyond my understanding of human nature -- I
can't see it," Remus said. "This sounds like Cook County politics at
its finest."
Remus said he once was the guard's supervisor at the jail but is not
the man's friend.
The jailbreak was the third at the Cook County Jail in the past 10
months. No inmates had escaped from there in the previous decade.
It was at least the second time in recent months that the question
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"I'm innocent," Gater told reporters as he left the jail. "I just want
to get home to my family. I'm tired, I'm hungry and that's it, that's
all I want to say right now."
But officials say Gater admitted to playing a part in the jail break.
Cook County Sheriff Michael Sheahan said Gater failed a lie detector
test and wrote a statement confessing to coordinating the jail break
to give the current administration a black eye, and show support for
Democratic sheriff's candidate Richard Remus.
"He made the statement on his own free will, signed each page,"
Sheahan said.
Sheahan said Gater was to be paid $50,000 for coordinating the jail
break, and even gave a cell phone to the inmates so they could call
family members. All of the escaped inmates were later captured.
Prosecutors also alleged Gater took his uniform, boots and ID off
and gave them to the inmates.
As a result, Knibbs said, the inmates were able to unlock cell doors,
and the inmate who donned Gater's uniform was able to trick
another guard into opening a doorway out of the tier. Other
inmates, who set a mattress afire, charged out with shanks, a
wooden cane and chains, and at least two guards of the three in the
area were battered, he said.
Six Cook County correctional officers were also suspended with pay
in the connection with last weekend's jailbreak.
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Darin Gater, 36, appeared in court by video but did not enter a plea
during a hearing Wednesday. He was released Wednesday night on
$500,000 bond.
"I'm innocent," Gater told reporters as he left the jail. "I just want
to get home to my family. I'm tired, I'm hungry and that's it, that's
all I want to say right now."
Co-counsel Tommy Brewer called Gater "a fall guy" for safety and
morale problems at the jail.
Prosecutor Jim Knibbs did not discuss Gater's alleged motive during
the bond hearing and would not answer questions about it outside
the courtroom.
Five other jail officers have been suspended with pay while the
county's investigation into the jailbreak continues. Prosecutors
would not say if more charges were possible.
Gater initially said the inmate threw hot soapy water on him and
held him at bay with the knife. Prosecutors, however, allege that
Gater freed the inmate from his shackles, used his own handcuffs
on himself and left his keys and radio in a place where the inmate
could get them.
Prosecutors also alleged that Gater took his uniform, boots and ID
off and gave them to the inmates.
As a result, Knibbs said, the inmates were able to unlock cell doors,
and an inmate who donned Gater's uniform was able to trick
another guard into opening a doorway out of the tier. Other
inmates, who had started a mattress on fire, charged out with
shanks, a wooden cane and chains, and at least two guards of the
three in the area were battered, Knibbs said.
Also Wednesday, a brother and sister of one of the six inmates who
escaped were charged with four counts of aiding an escapee.
Anna Romero, 26, allegedly drove her brother and three other
inmates to a home on the South Side; Jose Romero, 27, allegedly
guided the inmates to a home in Cicero where they could hide.
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When asked for comment about their case after the hearing,
Elizabeth Hatch said, "No, thank you." Anne Hatch also declined to
comment.
The court appearance left no indication that the case was near a
resolution. A former attorney for the women had said the sisters
hoped to resolve the case before going to court. Former Illinois
Attorney General Tyrone Fahner, who spoke on behalf of the
women in March, said then that the two were not bad people and
that "this thing needs to be put to bed."
Police allege that after the two were removed from the club,
Elizabeth slapped an officer with an open hand and knocked his
glasses off. Police said Anne wrestled with another officer and
scratched his face and later broke a police car window.
Mike Hatch said shortly after the incident that his daughters were
devastated and wanted to be accountable for their mistakes but
that they denied having assaulted the officers. The women were
treated at a Chicago hospital for injuries they received, which
included black eyes, cuts and bruises and a fractured wrist, a Hatch
spokesperson has said.
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Two daughters of Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch assaulted
police and broke a squad car window after a struggle at a Chicago
dance club early Saturday, Chicago police said.
Elizabeth Bell Hatch, 22, and Anne Hatch, 21, are scheduled to
appear May 5 in Cook County Court.
They went to the hospital after being released from jail on their own
recognizance about 2 p.m. Saturday. Mike Hatch is looking for more
information about the time that elapsed between their arrest and
their release and treatment. "He's troubled by that," Sandberg said.
The women and their mother and several of Anne's friends were at
the trendy Crobar club on Chicago's Near North Side celebrating
Anne's 21st birthday, which was Friday. Anne is a communications
major at DePaul University in Chicago, and Elizabeth is majoring in
criminal justice at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minn.
Patricia Hatch left Crobar about 1 a.m., but Elizabeth and Anne
remained at the late-night hot spot that features nationally known
DJ acts. Former Chicago Bulls player and NBA bad boy Dennis
Rodman used to be a regular.
Taylor, the police spokeswoman, said that Elizabeth and Anne were
intoxicated and that about 3 a.m., a club guard asked them to
leave because "they were causing a disturbance, yelling and
screaming" at a male patron. Police arrived shortly after the club
called them.
Officers told the women that "they were no longer welcome at the
club and needed to leave," Taylor said. The women refused, and a
verbal and physical skirmish broke out between them and police,
she said. Elizabeth charged an officer, raised her hands and struck
him in the face, knocking off his glasses, Taylor said. Anne
struggled with another officer and scratched his face, Taylor added.
The women were arrested and taken to the 18th District Police
Station. On the way, Anne used her feet to shatter a rear window of
the squad car, Taylor said.
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Anne Hatch, 22, and Elizabeth Hatch, 23, were arrested in March
2004, after a wee-hours scuffle with police outside the Crobar club
on Chicago's Near North Side where they had been celebrating
Anne Hatch's birthday. The scuffle began after the women were
removed from the club. They are charged with misdemeanors.
More than a dozen journalists are covering the trial, which is being
heard only by a judge after the Hatches waived their right to a jury
trial.
She said the women, ''wanted to be sure everyone there knew who
they were -- the daughters of the attorney general of Minnesota,
the highest law enforcement officer in the state.''
Police allege that after the two were removed from the club,
Elizabeth Hatch slapped an officer with an open hand and knocked
his glasses off. Police said Anne Hatch wrestled with another officer,
scratched his face and later broke a window in a police car.
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Although the "Hatch girls," as they have been dubbed, have waived
their right to a jury trial, the jury box was filled -- by a dozen
journalists drawn by the novelty of a case in a court that almost
never conducts full-blown trials.
Boiled to its essence, the trial appears likely to lay out these
scenarios, based on the testimony of the first four prosecution
witnesses, all employees of the Crobar Club, where the incident
occurred:
Or: They had been kicked out of a club on a cold winter night,
without their coats or purses, manhandled by the police for no
discernible reason and then, when their high media profiles were
discovered, vilified from behind the thin blue line of officer solidarity
erected when police are accused of misconduct.
Anne Hatch, 22, and Elizabeth Hatch, 23, each face misdemeanor
charges of resisting a peace officer, simple battery and criminal
damage to property or a vehicle.
"Do you know who I am?" security guard Steve Torres testified that
Elizabeth Hatch demanded of him. "No, I don't," he said. "You don't
know who I am -- my dad is the state's attorney of Minnesota."
He hustled her outside the club, where retired Chicago police officer
and current Crobar guard Don Farrell watched as, he said, both
Hatches lit into two passing Chicago officers he had waved over.
"These were two women who were obviously drunk and I knew they
were getting out of hand," he said. "I called the squad over because
if they were the attorney general's daughters, I figured they'd
respect law enforcement."
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Most pointedly, Elizabeth Hatch, 23, said she never slapped Chicago
police officer Jeffrey Phillips, the alleged action that led to the arrest
of Hatch and her sister, Anne, 22, and a subsequent media
firestorm.
newspaper's police blotter were it not that the women are the
daughters of Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch.
Chicago's news media seized on that from the first days of the case
and prosecutors have repeatedly introduced testimony from
witnesses who said the women invoked their father's name and
title, saying "Don't you know who I am?"
For his part, Mike Hatch spent another day pacing the halls of the
fifth floor of the Cook County Misdemeanor Court building, waiting
to testify in his daughters' behalf.
He said she reached back with her right hand as if to hit him and he
tried to restrain her on the hood of the car. As he tried to handcuff
her, "she spun around and slapped me in the face ... knocking my
glasses off."
She said she never touched Phillips and that "my knees were
knocked out from under me and I fell to the ground. I didn't know
Asked why he had referred to Hatch that way, Phillips said, "I'm
human -- I may be a police officer, but I'd just been struck in the
face and I was insulted."
Later during his testimony, he said when he and his fellow officer
"found out who they were, we knew this was going to be a headline
issue."
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The Hatches had been charged with simple battery, resisting arrest
and criminal damage to property after they allegedly fought with
police and damaged a squad car about 3 a.m. on March 27, 2004,
outside a nightclub on the Near North Side. If convicted, they could
have been sentenced to up to a year in jail and $2,500 in fines.
"It's striking that everyone [for the prosecution] testified that they
said their dad was the Minnesota attorney general, but the reports
filed at the time had zero information about that fact," she said.
Also, in a snippet of an audio recording captured by a cell phone as
Elizabeth Hatch was being arrested, she never mentioned her father
or indulged in the constant profanity attributed to her by
prosecution witnesses.
Mike Hatch, who accompanied his daughters to their trial all week,
declined to comment Friday, saying only, "This is their day." Earlier
this week, he described his family's experience as "a year of hell."
As she and her sister stood outside the courthouse afterward, Anne
Hatch said: "It's really nice to have our side of the story heard. And
I'm glad we had the patience to tell it."
Legal battle
Breen was withering in his closing argument. "The state in this case
has miserably, miserably failed to show Elizabeth Hatch and her
sister were guilty of anything," he said. "The state's allegations
have been incredible. The state's witnesses contradicted each
other."
Breen said the two officers who arrested the Hatches "trashed those
girls that night and trashed them in their reports."
Breen called the police "bullies," but Malitz said "these two were the
bullies that night. They were pissed off because they were kicked
out of the Crobar."
She said the eventual altercation began because "they drank and
then they drank some more." But Elizabeth Hatch testified she had
only had five drinks over several hours, and Anne Hatch said she'd
had three. Sheehan said there was no credible evidence either
woman was drunk.
Asked how hard she kicked, Anne Hatch replied, "I'm a soccer
player. It was a good kick."
The Hatches' older sister, Katharine, was at the trial all week, and
their mother flew to Chicago Friday. The family plans to attend
Anne Hatch's graduation ceremony Sunday at DePaul University,
where she will receive a degree in communications.
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"We do not like Minnesota girls gone wild," wrote one Chicago
columnist. "They're young and beautiful with long straight hair and
expensive clothes. If anybody is going to accuse our police of
brutality, it's going to be us -- not some snotty-looking chicks with
perfect noses from Minnesota."
Hey. I think they have a crush on our daughters! Hands off our
Hatches, Chicago!
Elizabeth Hatch testified that the fracas began when she verbally
reprimanded a bar patron who grabbed the backside of a waitress
clad in pink panties (see Rule No. 1, above). Bar employees
testified she became unruly after being refused a cosmopolitan, a
pink-colored mix of vodka and cranberry juice popularized by the
TV series "Sex and the City."
Lesson No. 4: Don't let her leave home without the number
of a reliable attorney general or bail bondsman.
The Hatch Sisters have been freed from the clutches of tyranny and
all is well. Elizabeth, who graduated last year from Gustavus
Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minn., can go back to her law studies
(and a job in a bar on Chicago's Rush Street). Anne, who graduates
Sunday from DePaul University, can find her path. And Mike Hatch,
having stood by his daughters in their time of trial, can go back to
what he loves best:
And a final fashion thought: The brawl began when Elizabeth Hatch,
ejected from The Crobar without her Prada purse, tried to go back
and retrieve it. Which brings up Rule No 6:
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
states) > ILLINOIS > Man finds historic gun in wall, but cops keep it
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Mad Abe Man finds historic gun in wall, but cops keep it
?????
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...op/j14tommy.htm
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Western hemisphere
Tommy gun tug-o-war
Posts: 833
"Tommy gun tug-o-war
By Joe Hosey
STAFF WRITER
But Mr. Fixit says he turned into a loser on a lucky day when police
A brief check of the weapon showed that it had been fired before it
was hidden away in the wall of the house, Kaupas said, but he does
not know if it would be worth the effort to investigate if the
machine gun had been stolen or used in a criminal shooting.
"They took it, and they're going to do what they want with it,"
Mayes complained of this turn of events. "What right do they have
to keep it?"
One right the sheriff's department does have to seize the weapon is
that it would be illegal to possess, said John Birch, president of
Concealed Carry Inc.
"It's a felony (to possess the weapon)," said Birch, an Oak Brook
resident.
Birch did say Mayes could get around the law by making the
Tommy gun inoperable. While this might decrease its value as a
collector's item, it would allow him to keep it.
Mayes said he only involved police in the matter to make sure the
weapon was not the instrument of foul play.
"Basically the only reason I called them was to make sure there
wasn't anything wrong with it," he said, "that it wasn't involved in
any incidents."
But then the cops kept it on him. And after speaking with an
attorney, Mayes is convinced he can have the gun back without
breaking the law.
"I've been calling around about it, and it's worth a lot of money,"
Mayes said. "(A Florida gun dealer) said $10,000 would be the
lowest." "
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Constitution (with his note added), 1776. Papers 1:353
05-22-2005 01:44 PM
This guy has very little wiggle room here. With a lawyer he might
be able to work something out to where he can sell it to a dealer.
They have the right to seize it and that is very clear here.
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05-22-2005 06:36 PM
Navigatr1 Of course if they seize it, they have to destroy it. They can't just
Extended Sabatical hang onto the weapon for posterities sake. Just as they can't hang
onto cocaine for posterities sake. They have to destroy it.
--Navigatr1
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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787
05-22-2005 11:21 PM
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05-23-2005 04:44 PM
Mad Abe "Kaupas said this particular model of the Tommy gun, a 1928A1,
????? "shoots real sweet," and that he wants to keep it with the
department for posterity's sake."
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Western hemisphere Sounds like the cops want to keep it in .gov stockpiles with the
Posts: 833 guns they bought with stolen tax dollars.
"nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just
compensation."
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Constitution (with his note added), 1776. Papers 1:353
05-23-2005 05:32 PM
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COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS SECTION > US INLAND NEWS (All the interior
states) > ILLINOIS > Arlington PD wants their cut of the pizza pie
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http://www.unknownnews.net/031107cops2.html
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Location: Ft. Collins, Colorado
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Pizza man gets apology for three nights in jail
Nov. 5, 2003
Instead, police hauled Liszka off to the DuPage County jail on the
fourth day after a trail of evidence, including witness identification,
led back to him.
=John C.=
"I just started crying," the Bolingbrook man said. "I said, ‘You're all
wrong. You guys are making a big mistake.'"
Police said Liszka was one of three assailants who burglarized a city
official's residence in Warrenville in a violent home invasion that
involved rape. The crime shook the close-knit community to its core.
The case is just one example of the fallibility of the criminal justice
system — a system in which innocent people are sometimes caught
in the middle. It also is the reason eyewitness testimony, long a
trusted fixture in the courtroom, has come under increasing attack.
Mayor Vivian Lund declared it the most violent crime the city had
ever seen. Police Chief Robert LaDeur brought in the DuPage
County Major Crimes Task Force to help.
Initially, nearly two dozen officers were on the case. They chased
hundreds of leads, questioned dozens of people and looked into
possible connections with other recent home invasions in the area.
Liszka turned left. The squad car followed. Liszka turned right. The
officer tagged behind.
Kevin Liszka was still in bed when he heard the police detectives
pounding on the door. He reached for the phone.
"Are you sure you cleared this up?" he franticly asked his girlfriend,
still assuming police were after him for the lovers' spat.
An enlarged photo from his driver's license was on the wall of the
detectives' bureau — right next to a sketch of the gun-wielding
home invasion suspect.
His parents, Donna and Mark, consented that second night, Aug.
13, to let police search their home. Detectives searched Liszka's
bedroom but did not find the black-and-blue hooded Michigan
sweatshirt the gunman had worn or any stolen items. Police also
searched his grandmother's house, where Liszka often stayed, but
found nothing.
The more he cooperated, the deeper Kevin Liszka fell into trouble.
He resembled the police sketch. The nervous teen failed the lie-
detector test. And the city official whose family was attacked
repeatedly pointed to Liszka in mug shots and in the lineup.
being at the house when shown a photo. His alibi also didn't pan
out, authorities said.
But Liszka never recanted his innocence — even on Friday, Aug. 15,
as he was booked into the DuPage County jail on armed robbery,
home invasion and burglary charges.
Police made their first arrest in the case Aug. 12, the same day
they brought Liszka in for questioning. They were led to 24-year-old
Damon V. Jones of Naperville while checking out leads from
informants.
Officials said Jones' DNA matched that found in semen at the crime
scene and he was nabbed with some of the stolen items and the
laser- sighted gun used during the crime.
So, police had Jones. They were closing in on Stroup. As for Liszka,
they suspected he was the well-mannered gunman of the trio.
Prosecutors approved charges against Liszka that fourth day.
Outside in the police lobby, his mother, Donna, and two family
members had been waiting for four hours. The parents, whose
belief in their son's innocence never wavered, had encouraged him
to cooperate; to tell the truth. They held off on hiring a lawyer,
figuring Kevin was in safe hands.
"I said, ‘You think my son is going to commit this horrible crime a
mile from his grandmother's home and grandfather's grave?'"
Donna Liszka said. "I had been calm and cooperative the whole
time, and they didn't even have the decency to be upfront with me
and tell me they charged him."
His parents gathered their savings, maxed out credit cards and
borrowed from family. They scraped together the required
$100,000 that day to free their son.
"There was some concern about his safety, about what would
happen to him if we left him in jail," Mark Liszka said.
In the days that followed, the parents said, their son battled
depression. He lost his job. His face was splashed across
newspapers and on television. The family received a harassing
phone call.
His grandmother called one day crying, Liszka said, after receiving
a bitter reception at St. Irene Catholic Church.
"Kevin Liszka was not involved in any way with this home invasion,"
Birkett said.
A defense attorney called Kevin Liszka that afternoon with the good