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Displacement vector and Cnode. #70631 - 12/20/17 07:44 AM 1 registered (babs), 29
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Member Dear all,
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10/30/17 We have to apply an imposed displacement say in +y
Posts: 2 (vertical) direction to a node (say node 10) where it is February
Loc: ITALY located a restraint in another direction (say X-direction).
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
Obviously it is not allowed to apply displacements where 1 2 3
restraints is placed, so we would like to use cnode. 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
So we constraint the node (node 10) in y direction
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
referring to a cnode (say cnode 11); then we apply a
displacement to node 11 defining a new displacement 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
vector say D1. 25 26 27 28
Load case we have to analyze are:
L1: W+T1+P1+D1 (OPE) Forum Stats
L2: W+P1 (SUS) 11403 Members
L3: L1-L2 (EXP) 14 Forums
15259 Topics
It looks to me that adding D1 displacement at cnode 11, 68877 Posts
stiffness matrix of whole system is different compared
with system without D1 displacement. Max Online: 105 @
In fact load case L2(SUS) (where D1 displacement vector 07/02/17 09:16 PM
is not active) appears with node 10 constrained in y and
not free in that direction.
We obtain the same think applying displacement directly
to main node 10 (without restraint in x direction).

Is my guess correct?

If it is so, how can I simulate the effect of an imposed


motion without impacting on global stiffnes matrix of the
system? Note that the imposed motion is not due to a
constraint settlement but to the effect (thermal
expansion) of another (not-modelled) part of the piping
system.

Can anyone help or comments?

Thanks

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Re: Displacement vector and Cnode. #70633 - 12/20/17 08:59 AM


[Re: d_pioli]
Dave Diehl
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The rule is - If you specify a displacement and this


displacement set is NOT included in the load case, the
Member program will consider the piping fully restrained along that
displacement vector.
Registered:
12/14/99
Posts: 2250 I guess one way that you can have a pipe position
Loc: Houston, specified in one load case and free in another is to use the
TX, USA snubber (SNB). The snubber can be turned on and off in
the load case editor. Turn it on (with the associated
displacement) for one case and turn it off for another.
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Re: Displacement vector and Cnode. #70634 - 12/20/17 09:36 AM


[Re: Dave Diehl]

d_pioli
Member Thank you Dave,
Registered:
10/30/17 So the procedure that you suggest is the following
Posts: 2 (considering my previous example):
Loc: ITALY
1. Constraint node 10 using restraint type YSNB
2. Associate to that restraint cnode 11
3. Apply displacement in +y direction to node 11 and
define displacement vector D1
4. Let snubber active in load case L1(W+T1+P1+D1) and
not-active in load case L2(W+P1)

In this way node 10 is displaced in the right location in


load case L1 and completely free in load case L2.

Is that correct?

Thank you very much

Best regards

Dario Pioli

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Re: Displacement vector and Cnode. #70635 - 12/20/17 09:45 AM


[Re: d_pioli]
Dave Diehl
Yes.
Check your results...
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12/14/99
Posts: 2250
Loc: Houston,
TX, USA

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