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MPs - And.europe Enthusiasm, Circumspection - Or.outright - Scepticism. (A.j.w.david - Baker, David - Seawright, Katrina - Bull) .1999
To cite this article: David Baker , Andrew Gamble , David Seawright & Katrina Bull (1999) MPs
and Europe: Enthusiasm, circumspection or outright scepticism?, British Elections & Parties
Review, 9:1, 171-185, DOI: 10.1080/13689889908413027
Article views: 57
The issue of Europe has undermined the unity of both major parties over
recent decades, and it shows few signs of disappearing from the political
agenda so far this parliament. Questions of EMU, common foreign and
security policy, and home affairs and immigration continue to divide
opinion, in both the major parties. This article - which draws on the results
of a survey sent to all 659 MPs in mid-1998 - allows us empirically to test
the views of the parliamentary elites on Europe.
The research builds on two previous surveys which have examined the
views of Conservative and Labour MPs on European integration (see Baker
etal, 1995,1996a, 1996b, 1997). (Both datasets are deposited with the Data
Archive at the University of Essex). The new survey adds another dataset at
a particularly important time. It allows us to examine the views of the large
influx of new Labour MPs, widely believed to be very pro-European, as
well as to see whether the remaining Conservative MPs are as eurosceptic
as is commonly thought. It also allows us to measure the views of the large
Liberal Democrat representation in the Commons, the largest since 1929,
and for the first time large enough to be meaningfully surveyed.
The overall response rate to the questionnaire was 39 per cent. Broken
down by party, as in Table 1, the response rate was 33 per cent from Labour
MPs (a considerable achievement given that Labour MPs are routinely
reminded on their pagers not to answer any questionnaires), 42 per cent
from Conservatives, and 73 per cent from the Liberal Democrats. As a result
of this differential response rate, our respondents contained nine per cent
fewer Labour MPs than in the Commons as a whole, while the
Conservatives and Liberal Democrats were slightly over-represented (by
four and six per cent respectively). None of these differences are of a
magnitude to cause us to doubt the reliability of our findings.
TABLE 1
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RESPONSE RATE
N As % of As % of %of Difference
parliamentary respondents Commons
party
Labour 138 33 54 63 -9
Conservative 70 42 29 25 +4
Liberal Democrat 34 73 13 7 +6
Curtice and Clarke, 1998). The latter may reflect the fact that much of the
press in the United Kingdom takes a eurosceptic stance (although despite
this, over three-quarters of Conservatives also said they were dissatisfied
with media coverage of the issue).
Majorities of Conservative and Liberal Democrat respondents believed
that the issue was well debated within their own parties. A similar view was,
however, not taken by most Labour respondents: over half (53 per cent) said
that there was a paucity of informed debate within the party. This was
anticipated in general remarks made during our preliminary interviews with
Labour MPs in the spring of 1998. Several argued that the leadership was
tightly controlling the agenda of discussion on Europe within the party,
leaving no space for proper internal debate on the issue.
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TABLE 2
ATTITUDES ON THE QUALITY OF THE EUROPEAN DEBATE
Note: In Tables 2 to 7, * indicates that chi-squared is significant at the 0.05 level; ** indicates
that it is significant at the 0.01 level.
TABLE 3
ATTITUDES ON SOVEREIGNTY, INSTITUTIONAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL MATTERS
Labour 22 17 61
Conservative 61 6 33
Liberal Democrat 6 16 78
Labour 3 1 96
Conservative 26 11 63
Liberal Democrat 3 0 97
3.3 An act of Parliament should be passed to establish explicitly the ultimate supremacy of
Parliament over EU legislation.**
Labour 13 20 67
Conservative 69 7 24
Liberal Democrat 12 6 81
Labour 29 19 52
Conservative 61 10 29
Liberal Democrat 10 17 73
3.5 The Council of Ministers should be the supreme institution in the EU.**
Labour 29 15 56
Conservative 72 10 18
Liberal Democrat 13 10 77
However, the data also reveal noticeable splits within Labour and the
Conservatives. As well as the Conservative split on withdrawal (3.2), there
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are also sizeable divisions over the pooling of sovereignty (3.1) and the role
of the Commission (3.4). Labour MPs were also split over the Commission
(although in the opposite direction to the Conservatives) and over the
Council of Ministers (3.5), suggesting a battle ahead if too much power is
seen to be lost by the Westminster parliament. The Liberal Democrats,
however, showed a remarkable degree of cohesion on all five questions.
TABLE 4
ATTITUDES ON MONETARY POLICY
4.1 Britain should never permit its monetary policy to be determined by a European Central
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Bank.**
Labour 20 15 65
Conservative 66 9 25
Liberal Democrat 13 10 77
Labour 11 19 70
Conservative 64 6 30
Liberal Democrat 7 10 83
Labour 65 19 16
Conservative 13 16 71
Liberal Democrat 87 7 7
4.4 Joining the Single Currency will signal the end of the UK as a sovereign nation.**
Labour 10 7 83
Conservative 66 6 28
Liberal Democrat 3 7 90
4.5 It is essential that there should be a national referendum before the UK enters a single
currency.*
Labour 80 7 13
Conservative 97 2 2
Liberal Democrat 71 16 13
Labour 23 27 50
Conservative 27 28 45
Liberal Democrat 27 38 35
Note: Not all rows sum to 100% due to rounding.
Monetary policy
Those questions on monetary policy that asked respondents for their views
on the ERM, the Single Currency and the EU Central bank, largely
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confirmed the findings of the earlier statements (see Table 4). In each of the
first four questions, the majority of Conservative respondents gave sceptical
responses, while the majority of Labour and Liberal Democrat respondents
gave euroenthusiast responses, with the Liberals Democrats being slightly
more enthusiastic than Labour. For example, 65 per cent of Labour MPs and
87 per cent of Liberal Democrat MPs believe that membership of the Euro
is crucial for Britain's future prosperity, compared to just 13 per cent of
Conservatives (4.3).
Similarly, just as before, the data reveal the Liberal Democrat
respondents to be largely united in their views, while the other two parties
contain sizeable dissenting minorities on some issues. The Conservatives
split over the ERM (4.2) and single currency (4.4), while both Labour and
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the Conservatives split over the European Central Bank (ECB) (4.1). Such
dissident minorities could pose a long-term threat for party management on
Europe, especially if any future ECB took unpopular decisions on levels of
interest rate and employment.
The final two questions in this section provoked slightly different
responses. Clear majorities of all three parties supported the need for a
referendum before Britain entered the single currency (4.5), with the
Conservatives being the most in favour. By contrast, responses to the
question on the possible institutionalization of neo-liberal economic
policies by any future common currency (4.6) caused real divisions of
opinion: all three parties split into three sizeable groups. Given the inter-
party differences of opinion that are clear on most other issues, this may be
an indication of that survey conductor's nightmare: that MPs of all parties
chose to interpret 'neo-liberal' in different ways, thereby confusing the
issue.
National security
Questions on matters of national security reveal a slightly different pattern
to many of those issues previously discussed, as Table 5 shows. As before,
the Conservative respondents were by far the most sceptical of the three
parties, with 80 per cent or more choosing a sceptical response to all three
questions. At its strongest, in the case of Qualified Majority Voting (QMV)
in foreign and defence policy, 90 per cent were opposed. And, as before, the
Liberal Democrats were the most enthusiastic, with majorities adopting an
enthusiastic stance on all three questions (although almost a third of Liberal
Democrat respondents opposed QMV in foreign and defence policy).
The difference comes with Labour. The three questions produced clear
divisions within Labour's ranks. On balance, Labour was slightly more
enthusiastic than sceptical, but only just: the sceptical grouping within
Labour's ranks on these issues is only marginally smaller than the
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TABLE 5
ATTITUDES ON NATIONAL SECURITY
agree % % disagree %
5.1 Britain should block the use of QMV in the areas of foreign and defence policy.**
Labour 36 22 42
Conservative 90 1 9
Liberal Democrat 32 10 58
5.2 A single European Army would undermine rather than underpin the security of the UK.**
Labour 33 28 39
Conservative 83 7 10
Liberal democrat 13 29 58
5.3 Britain should not participate in the lifting of borders as specified in the Schengen
agreement.**
Labour 33 23 44
Conservative 87 4 9
Liberal Democrat 7 13 80
Budgetary matters
Table 6 deals with the monetary costs of the EU to its member nations, costs
that are going to rise for the richer nations such as Britain during any future
enlargement or growth in central institutions like the ECB. Once again,
Conservative scepticism is confirmed, both on any increase in structural
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funds (where 60 per cent take a sceptical stance) and especially on the
enlargement of the budget (to which 91 per cent are opposed). Majorities of
both Labour and Liberal Democrat MPs support the need for an increase in
structural funds, but both are badly split over the need for any enlargement
of the EU's budget. Both parties split into three almost equal groups (with
roughly a third adopting a sceptical stance, a third being enthusiastic, and a
third being neither). Yet again, therefore, we see that Labour's generally
euroenthusiastic stance has its limits. Importantly, so too do the Liberal
Democrats. This is the first issue to show that even the very euroenthusiast
Liberal Democrats can split over Europe, given the right issue.
TABLE 6
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Labour 36 28 36
Conservative 6 3 91
Liberal Democrat 39 32 29
Labour 67 19 14
Conservative 29 11 60
Liberal Democrat 74 16 10
Economic policy
The Liberal Democrats also split over questions on EU economic policy, as
shown in Table 7. By contrast, the Conservatives were again united in
response to all three statements; and in all three cases, they adopted an
opposed position to the majority of Labour respondents. These three
statements were also interesting because of what they reveal about the
beliefs of New Labour. For example, 35 per cent either agreed with or were
neutral towards statement 7.1, which suggests that EU job creation requires
a reduction in employer's social costs. Even question 7.2, which argued that
Labour market inflexibility was chiefly responsible for unemployment, saw
27 per cent of Labour respondents either in agreement with or unconcerned
by this statement. But one of the most interesting indications of New
Labour's change in economic perspective can be seen in the answer to 7.3
- 'Public ownership is irrelevant for the achievement of social justice' -
where 26 per cent actually agreed and 15 per cent remained uncommitted.
This line of argument should not be pursued too far. In all three cases, the
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TABLE 7
ATTITUDES ON ECONOMIC POLICY
agree % % disagree %
7.1 A reduction in social costs placed on the employer is essential for job creation in the EU.**
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Labour 18 17 65
Conservative 94 3 2
Liberal Democrat 32 26 42
Labour 10 17 73
Conservatives 87 3 10
Liberal Democrat 26 16 58
Labour 26 15 59
Conservative 88 9 3
Liberal Democrat 49 19 32
A Cohort Effect?
Our two previous surveys revealed a powerful cohort factor at work within
Britain's two governing parties. By focusing on certain issue statements
common to both the 1994 and 1996 surveys, we showed that the
Conservative Party at Westminster was moving inexorably towards a more
eurosceptic position, while Labour was moving in the opposite direction
(Baker et al., 1997). The change in attitudes occurred at different times in
different parties. In the Labour Party, the sea-change came after the
catastrophic election defeat in 1983, for which Labour's anti-European
policy was partly blamed. In the Conservative Party the arrival in parliament
in 1979 of a disproportionately large number of free-market, nationalist MPs
marked the beginning of a more sceptical thinking on Europe.
The size of Labour's landslide election victory contributed to a huge
turnover in the composition of the Commons: of the 659 MPs elected in
1997, 260 entered the Commons for the first time. These MPs will be
crucial to the future ideological direction of the parties. We now examine
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their views, and in Tables 8 and 9 compare them to the previous cohorts.
TABLE 8
CONSERVATIVE COHORT DIFFERENCES
8.1 An act of Parliament should be passed to establish explicitly the ultimate supremacy of
Parliament over EU legislation.
8.2 Joining the Single Currency will signal the end of the UK as a sovereign nation.
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8.3 The key to closing the 'democratic deficit' is strengthening the scrutiny by national
parliaments of the EU legislative process.
8.4 Britain should block the use of QMV in the areas of foreign and defence policy.
8.5 A single European Army would undermine rather than underpin the security of the UK.
Note: In Tables 8 and 9, by-election entrants have been grouped with the next general election
cohort.
see QMV blocked for foreign and defence policy (8.4); and an astonishing
93 per cent view the 'democratic deficit' as being a lack of scrutiny by
national parliaments (8.3).
These figures are far higher than those given in our previous survey of
Conservative MPs in 1994, as shown by the figures in parentheses in Table
8. Had the responses seen in 1994 been repeated in 1998, we would have
clear evidence of an on-going cohort effect: those elected in 1997 would
have been more sceptical than those elected between 1979 and 1992 who
would, in turn, have been more sceptical than those elected between 1959
and 1974.
However, what is striking about Table 8 is that this did not happen. The
responses from the earlier cohorts who responded in 1998 are far more
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sceptical than figures for the same cohorts in 1994. For example, in 1994,
27 per cent of those elected between 1959 and 1974 said that they wanted
an act to challenge the supremacy of EU legislation (8.1); by 1998, that
figure had almost trebled to 80 per cent. Something similar - if less
pronounced - happened with the 1979-92 cohort.
Unfortunately, because this is not a panel survey - one that tracks the
views on the same individuals over time - we have no way of knowing
whether this transformation is the result of conversion (of MPs changing
their minds) or replacement (of the more euroenthusiastic Conservatives
having been disproportionately 'weeded out' by the electoral turnover on 1
May 1997). But whatever the cause, the effect is pronounced. As a result,
although the 1997 cohort are very eurosceptic, they are in many cases not
much more eurosceptic than their colleagues elected from the earlier
parliaments. Indeed, in some cases (8.4 and 8.5, for example) they are the
least eurosceptic grouping.
Some caution is needed with these figures. Given the size of the
Conservative parliamentary party, analysis of any one cohort — even one as
large in relative terms as those elected in 1997 - is problematic. The N for
the 1997 Conservative respondents is 15 and just 10 for the 1959-74 cohort.
Yet even with this caveat in place, the overall conclusion appears clear: the
eurosceptic movement of the Conservative parliamentary party speeded up
after the 1997 election, both because the new MPs were themselves
eurosceptic and because the body of existing MPs became more sceptical.
With Labour, our findings are slightly more complicated. The difference
between the first two cohorts remains clear. We do find some differences
between the responses given by each cohort in 1994 and now, but none of
the differences alters the basic finding: as we found in 1994 (again, the
figures in brackets in Table 9), those elected in or before 1983 were far more
inclined to take a sceptical position than those elected after the commitment
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9.1 An act of Parliament should be passed to establish explicitly the ultimate supremacy of
Parliament over EU legislation.
9.2 Joining the Single Currency will signal the end of the UK as a sovereign nation.
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9.3 The key to closing the 'democratic deficit' is strengthening the scrutiny by national
parliaments of the EU legislative process.
9.4 Britain should block the use of QMV in the areas of foreign and defence policy.
9.5 A single European Army would undermine rather than underpin the security of the UK.
But the third cohort - those elected in 1997 - do not behave in such a
predictable way; and with 70 Labour MPs from this cohort responding to
our survey, we feel greater confidence in the level of their
representativeness. On one question (9.2) the 1997 intake are more
enthusiast than their colleagues from the 1987-92 intake, on one (9.4) they
are exactly the same, and on three (9.1, 9.3 and 9.5) they are less
enthusiastic. What does this mean? And how can we explain it?
In broad terms, it seems clear that the new Labour cohort are not hugely
more euroenthusiastic than their immediate predecessors, nor are they
noticeably more sceptical. And on the crucial question of joining the single
currency (9.2) there has been a further euroenthusiastic shift: just 9 per cent
of our 1997 intake believed that this momentous decision will lead to the
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end of the UK as a sovereign nation state. So, while the 1997 intake have
not added to the momentum of Labour's ideological shift nor have they
reversed it.
The opposition to the idea of a single European army has actually
hardened in this Parliament (9.5) along with support for scrutiny by
Westminster of the EU legislative process (9.3). There might be a
reasonable explanation for this. Tony Blair has never offered unqualified
enthusiasm for Europe; his comments are always tempered with important
caveats. This attitude of enthusiasm qualified with circumspection was best
expressed in his speech to the Friedrich-Ebert Stiftung on 30 May 1995
where Blair stated that elite political opinion should not be allowed to get
ahead of public opinion, as he claimed it did at the time of Maastricht. In
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Conclusion
Both major parties have significant minorities opposed to the party line on
Europe, especially on issues that deal with fundamental questions of
national sovereignty and interdependence. On the key issue of full-blown
euroscepticism - withdrawal - those Conservative respondents agreeing (26
per cent) or uncommitted (11 per cent) constitute a very significant minority
in the parliamentary elite. In the case of our Labour respondents, some of
the New Labour ideas on market-driven solutions to economic problems
clearly divide the party significantly. The left-of-centre attitudes to social
and economic questions found in the last survey (Baker et al., 1996b)
appear to have diminished; but Labour MPs remain rather cautious about
offering extra powers to elected EU institutions. On the whole, the Liberal
Democrats are confirmed by this survey as the most pro-European party but
even they appear divided on some economic and constitutional questions.
The lessons for Tony Blair are that he can push a fairly aggressive pro-
European line in government without the risk of opening up major division
and dissent within his parliamentary elite (although the same can certainly
not be said within the British press). William Hague's general attack on the
Single Currency and the associated loss of British sovereignty also appears
to chime well with the attitudes of a clear majority of our Conservative
respondents. But in both cases issues like the Single Currency continue to
produce sizeable minorities out of tune with the respective party
leaderships.
What does the future hold in store? Much will depend on what happens
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when the Euro starts, and how it interacts with recent global financial
difficulties. If the Euro is a success then there will be strong pressure for
Britain to join, and for the government to hold a referendum soon after the
next general election. If Labour wins that election, dependent on a good
performance and the margin of victory, it is likely also to win the
referendum, aided by majority business and trade union support, with senior
Tories joining the 'yes' campaign. The only major cloud on this horizon
would be the British press. Labour's leadership well remembers the famous
front page of the Sun, which referred to Mr. Blair's possible pro-European
intentions asking whether he was 'the most dangerous man in Britain'.
The European issue made life impossible for John Major. William
Hague will not be allowed to walk away from it either. In the event of the
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Tories winning the next election then their hands are presumably tied, even
if they come to see that joining the Euro is essential. Either way, the Labour
anti-European faction is unlikely to make much headway. The major
headache for Hague is how he is now going to stop his local parties
deselecting pro-European MPs before the next election. The Thatcherite
Right is clearly swinging behind Portillo who is poised to challenge for the
leadership if Hague loses the next election. Portillo is promoting the line of
'No to the Euro on principle'. Hague's position for all its apparent
toughness is really a development of Major's, designed to hold the party
together, if at all possible. Significantly, if Portillo's line was ever adopted
the pro-Europeans might well be forced to leave. Many of the less
prominent may well leave anyway.
The intriguing thing from our data is that although the party members
have resoundingly backed Hague by more than 5:1, support from the MPs
for his line is much less overwhelming. In our survey they are split 2:1 on
Europe. That suggests there is a lot of deselection to do if the Right
continues to press on this issue or, as our 1997 cohort data indicates, many
of the new candidates will be ultra-sceptics themselves in any case. Most
observers (including the Sun, which pronounced it an 'ex-party') are
incredulous. But the calculation of the Tory Right is that a campaign to save
the pound will prove deeply popular. The stakes are very high - if they are
wrong the party could be out of office for a long time, and Portillo (or
someone like him) may well have Disraeli's job of getting the party to
accept the situation and rebuild its appeal.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
The Members of Parliament Project survey team would like to express their thanks to the MPs
and academics who sponsored the survey. Without their support the response rates would have
been much lower. They are: Roger Casale, Jimmy Hood, James Plaskitt, Bill Rammell (Labour);
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Peter Bottomley, Julie Kirkbride (Conservative); Nick Harvey, David Heath (Liberal Democrat);
John Swinney (Scottish National Party); David Marquand, Martin Holmes (Oxford University);
Philip Norton (Hull University); and Pippa Norris (Harvard University). We would also like to
take this opportunity to express our thanks and gratitude to Philip Cowley for his insightful
comments on this work.
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