Leaving The Birth

Place
By
Devdatt. B. Dave

B
elow is a verse from Sambhu Hora
Praksha which has been translated
in English By Late R Santhanam.
It is one of the rarest classics that is often
ignored by even senior astrologers.
Incidentally it contains gems in astrology.
Here is scribes attempt to modify the
shloka slightly.

Mars and Saturn in 12th, 8th or 5th House [Sambhu

Hora Praksha 14/13]

Devdatt Dave, is a astrologer based in Chapter 14

भाग्याधिनाथे व्ययभावसंस्थ े बलोधिते धवत्तगते
Chennai and has an experience of 40 years in
the profession of astrology, palmistry &
व्ययेश।े
numerology. A great lover of books, his deep
interest in the science was awakened while
दुधिक्यसंस्थ ैययधि पापखेटैैः के मद्रुमो योग इधत
reading a book published by “Janmabhoomi”
way back in 1969 and gradually his curiosity
took him to tread deeper in to acquainting
complete knowledge of the subject. In the process प्रधिष्टैः॥१२॥
he joined the institute of astrological studies and
acquired deeper knowledge from stalwarts like ु धनतान्तं
पराआन्नकाम्क्षी मनजो
Late Dr. B.V Raman, Mr. S. K. Kelkar,
Mr.Ashwathapa, Mr.Dhwijen Desai. He has कुिमयकमायधभरतोऽल्पधवत्तैः।
actively participated in several workshops on
astrology, Vastu Shastra ashtakavarga ु वत्स
पराङ्गनासंगपरोत्तमर्णी के मद्रुम े जाततनभय े ैः।
(conducted by the renowned late Mr. C. S. Patel)
He has also been the committee member to IAS
(Institute of astrological studies) .With his keen
ु
के न्द्रधस्थता गीष्पधतमंिचन्द्रा व्ययाष्टपत्रोपगतौ
यमारौ।
interest in palmistry he also has a huge database
of palm prints of people from various walks of life
Recipient of Jyotish Vachaspati certificate
from Bruhad Gujarat astrological society, के मद्रुमाख्यस्त्वपरोअत्र जातैः स्वजन्मभूम्या
्
Ahmadabad. His website is www.astrolight.in
रधितो नरैः स्यात॥१४॥
Meanings:
If the 9th lord is in the 12th house and 12th lord is in the 9th house and without strength, and in
the 3rd house malefics are placed, then this is also considered as a Kemadruma Yoga.
Such a person will be interested in having food in other’s places, will be engaged in bad
deeds and against dharmic principles, Will have mean mentality, will be interested in other
women and will be in debts.
Mars and Saturn together in the 12th, 8th or 5th house (Sambu Hora prakasha -14/14), the
person will be deprived of his motherland, having to leave his/her place of birth due to bad
luck. This is another kind of Kemadruma Yoga.
This article is based on the last verse.

As per the above given principle the person with such combinations in their horoscopes are
usually deprived of their mother land, having to leave his/her place of birth.

To prove the same, below given, are a couple of charts of various individuals with the given
combinations and short description as to how the above principle was applicable in each
case. In majority cases there is no conjunction between Saturn and Mars but both are placed
in one of the houses viz. 12 or 5 or 8. But there is some link between Mars and Saturn in all
the charts either in the Rasi chart or Navamsa chart as seen below:

Chart of Mr.P.M
DOB – 17/6/ 1956 Time – 10.00am
Place- Vishnagar (Gujarat)
Lat – 23N 42’00 / Long- 72E 33’00

In this chart Saturn is in the 5th house – Scorpio which is the house of Mars and Mars is in
8th house - Aquarius-the house of Saturn. So there is Parivartana between Mars and Saturn.
Also in Navamsa Chart (Chart not provided here) they are in mutual aspect.
In the above chart Saturn is in the 5th house and Mars in the 8th house.
- The person was originally doing steel business during 1997 – 2000.
- In this phase he introduced a financial scheme for customer benefit which backfired
and he had to flee his place of birth with huge debts and moved into Chennai to reside
with his in-laws. Vimshottari dasa running was of Saturn and Antardasa was also of
Saturn.
- Despite of all above circumstances and 5th house of this individual’s horoscope being
poor, his son now an IT Engineer , is well placed

Chart of Mr.U.D
DOB – 21 Sep 1959
Time – 23.06.00
Place-Chennai

In this chart Mars is in the 5th house in Virgo and Saturn is in the 8th house in Sagittarius
and thus there is mutual aspect between Mars and Saturn. In Navamsa Saturn and Mars are
conjoined in Gemini, the 10th house of Navamsa chart.
Here Mars is in the 5th house and Saturn in the 8th house.

Instance during the period of Rahu – Mars between 1999- 2000

- He was a commission agent for textile business and alongside did private textile
business and suffered loss due to his suppliers.
- In spite of the difficulties he began working for plywood market and after yet another
unsuccessful endeavor, was eventually forced to leave with family from Chennai
between 1999 -2000. Vimshottari dasa-Antardasa was of Rahu-Mars-Rahu. In 5H is
Mars and receives the aspect of Saturn.
- He relocated to Bharuch (Gujarat) started off his own laundry with the aid of his in-
laws.
- His son is well placed now as a Chemical Engineer ( this is yet another constant thing
seen so far in most case quoted here and may require further pondering as a separate
subject of discussion )

Chart of Mr.HPM
DOB – 28 Oct 1956
Time – 1.15 am
Place – Bhavnagar (Gujarat)
Mars is in the 8th house – Saturn’s house and Saturn is in Scorpio-house of Mars. Thus
there is exchange between Mars and Saturn. In Navamsa there is no link.

Condition applicable – 5th house occupied by Saturn and 8th house occupied by Mars

- Basic education was poor

- Imperfect business style and he ended up cheating his shop owner by selling his rental
property to a third party for a sum of 7 lakhs and fled from Chennai with the amount
between 1996 -1997. Vimshottari dasa was of Moon and Antardasa during this period
was of Moon and Mars. If the exact date is known some reasoning could be given.
- His son is now better placed as an Electrical engineer

Chart of Mr HS and Mr.MS

HS
DOB - 9 June 1951
Time – 16.30
Place – Chennai

There is no link between Saturn and Mars in Rasi chart but in Navamsa they are in mutual
aspect.
Saturn is in 12th house and Mars in 8th House

MS
DOB – 13 May 1981
Time – 07 .00 am
Place – Chennai
There is no link between Saturn and Mars in Rasi chart but in Navamsa they are in mutual
aspect.
Condition applicable – Mars occupies 12th house & Saturn occupies 5th house.
11-2-2012 to 12-4-2012
- The father son duo were involved with imitation jewellery business, suffered huge
debts, separation from siblings.
- Yet with persistent efforts he helped set up a travel agency for his son again with
borrowed money.
- Finally they went broke due to repeated business failures and huge liabilities that
forced them to flee from Chennai in 2012
Vimshottari dasa running was of Mars and Antardasa was of Rahu for HS. Rahu is placed
in the house of Saturn.
And for MS Rahu Dasa-Jupiter Antardasa was running. Jupiter is conjunct Saturn. Rahu is
aspected by Mars.

Charts of Mr.HDV and Mrs.RHV

HDV
DOB -2 May 1971
Time – 19.00.00
Place –Chennai
In this chart there is no link between Mars and Saturn except the fact that Mars is in
Capricorn, the house of Saturn. In Navamsa also there is no link.

RHV
DOB – 15 Dec 1971
Time _ 02.45.00
Place – Chennai

In this chart there is mutual aspect between Mars and Saturn.

Condition applicable – Mars occupies 5th house and Saturn occupies 8th house

These are charts of husband and wife

- Father of Mr.HDV expired on 17/3/09 and left a legacy of debts.

- Currently Mr.HDV continues to run the family business (of cycle spare parts) and
making efforts to clear off all existing debts
- As seen his wife’s chart also reveal Mars in 5th House and Saturn in 8th house with
Mars in highest shadabala.
- As of date, this family continues to have a meager to moderate existence and as seen in
previous cases, similar circumstances of prosperity have not yet come about.
- Yet the charts are indicative and hence can definitely be borne in mind for application
of the principle.
As a concluding remark, I take the liberty to suggest remedial measures for the above as
follows:
For eg. For Taurus & Libra ascendant (Lagna) – advised to wear sapphire blue (precious
gemstone and offer prayers to Mars)
For Leo and Cancer ascendant (Lagna) – advised to wear coral (precious gemstone) and
offer prayers to Saturn.
Likewise for every Lagna, yoga karaka we can suggest the requisite gemstone or prayers.