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perhaps, the most exciting and challenging juncture in its history. When our early ancestors
traded their
nomadic ways for fixed addresses, they, presumably, initially, allowed their waste products to
fall wherever they were produced. And they took freely of game for
food and trees for energy. Later, they realized they needed to
manage how they used these natural resources because they were getting
sick from drinking polluted water. Water that was polluted by their
own waste and the local food and energy sources were
the regional level was also necessary. As the quality of our air and
other impacts of human activity that can be seen at the planetary level,
have now made us realize that there’s a need to manage our use
of resources at the global level. A catalyst for moving into this phase in human history
may well have been the pictures of Earth from space sent back to Earth by
picture because it is one of, or maybe even the picture that has been
this photo continues to fascinate us, and there are two things about it that
ancestors were wrong to call this planet Earth, more correct would have
over 70% of the earth surface. The other salient feature of the Earth
that can be seen in the photo, is that our planet is not connected in
any other way, has no umbilical cord, if you like, to any other body in space. Thus, this picture
provides proof that
once we've used the natural resources upon which we are dependent,
those resources will not be replenished. The photo also shows us that it is, essentially,
impossible to
really get rid of our waste. Plastic in the ocean? Where else would it be? When we since the
1950s have known that
embraced its one time use. Climate change, our society has since
greenhouse gas waste, including CO2. As in the case of plastic in the oceans, we mostly don't
see this waste,
had this visual evidence since the Apollo space missions that
the Earth's resources are not infinite. It wasn't until 2015 when the 193
SDGs are a part of the 2030 agenda. And they can be seen as a vision for
how we want to share the Earth's resources among what will soon be 9 to 10 billion
people all with a right to development. This makes the SDGs relevant for every
the SDGs were adopted. I asked him how he views the SDGs
in relation to earlier global development goals. Mogens, you sat at the head of the table
when the SDGs or Agenda 2030 was adopted. So, of course, that makes it
good in the first 15 years of the century. But we had to combine it with much, much greater
attention to
sustainable development is. It's about both social, economic, and environmental sustainability.
>> And what about the process? Was it different in arriving at the goals? Was there anything
different about
from the civil society. And my strong impression is we would never have gotten such a strong,
this, we would not have had near as ambitious an agenda as we have now.
>> You mentioned civil society there. I've noticed, and it's really a good news, that very many
companies
are also picking up on the SDGs. But rather often we're seeing that
they're saying 17's too many we can't deal with that. So they pick out two or
profile themselves with them. What do you think about cherry picking?
>> It's important that every agent, every party in this discussion, realizes the total
interconnection
on all goals at the same time. But of course, there are companies
who have special qualifications and special issues. And it's very importantly, actually,
that together with the civil society we have very strong business community
now arguing for higher standards and higher national ambitions in order
that in the forefront of this, besides the NGOs, we have the big cities, the big states, for
instance in the U.S., and big companies. We need much more attention from national
governments still, but it's a good start. We have these strong partners
>> Mogens, I know it's impossible to look into the future, and I'm not
going to ask you to be a soothsayer. But how important do you think it is,
>> It's really existential for humanity. >> Existential. >> It's necessary to realize that goal 13,
climate change, is the most urgent one. Because without really changing the development on
climate, without really
limiting the global warming, we will not be able to mobilize the resources for
the rest of this very great agenda. Because global warming would create huge,