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A 24IN' Lf7NE .

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I rumna :[mmv, ', CoM ;mt33lDm mo1Ettur(; CFECK IT OUT IWO SEE IF 1 3 .E ] ;1i

W 'C!Fl2CI N'C 'r '.[' :EIE I i. E , f'FR»lB T Xr THE. !5TOFL7C ABOUT H E ]INS `1 :131RN E D ;H ISS

8' L I FT. . AP:QZ JIND, :C WOULD . F .] : FC 1L T'o CHECK I T' our .

9 !MR . . 1#EtA,~~„ DO YOU HAVE SOME GOOD nkrTH; BASTE', lE'OA.

10 .BElr,]CZrvz sf(; ' HE 7C :3 ~~']~ l!T~G?

11 lMR . KAR ,P I]:1q : ()T]fiU TlRAIR 23 ; I B E OC'.E;BN'S1]:1'T, E C :IZ:[ JMI l+UL]L

;1 Z IFI Z S 7 '(7lEtY, A3RD ] : ]RAVE 1101' l1W EIR B1ZE K 10 :G3 7'() TAIS TO 111K .

13 THE ( ,aUA .7' .: DID : HE. BXg EE WAB L ;C 'VIi+f(x IN 13T .

:L -4 JUT cUBT zNZ ?

]L :5

3.15 THE COURT'

: 111Z ALLOW IT .,-

17 01119D [) l? H EWIR C ' C)1q;F'BP:E.11CE

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3„ :I m : 3'WE s t 'F'HB ' o1 IES7' 7C«iN, 1' ] LEA~{ES?

2 , (1 10 . IINR121114 :

~~ . a0t1 1ERE ] : :3 THE ]ia S P:C 'F, AI, WHIRS YOU C". ILALZM YOU WORK?

22 A . BV ., AT7c ;1r1a Tz rrBy FxJWW,LEXlr HOs E03 :TAM,

2 31 IQ, . F zAG:LLR, ALL RIGHT . is ' rL2Cly ;PLAS' i ^P]E Y'Cfx3]2 A . EU L NfI1IC E?

241 , A, YES, SIR,,

25 12 . ,ANIT1 YOU
. FU VE: OPERATED LI 11]) ER (7'E'; EIEri: NAMES BEF'E)1 Z;E, )tA'VEl[ ''T

PATT z Aa, LENr , COUPT ]REPcylU r Ep.

 Case 1:97-cr-00496-ODE-GGB Document 154-5 Filed 07/17/06 Page 2 of 25

6 [I! 3

]. YOU?

A. YFM , SIR

Q. IF 1993 119 CHICAGO?

4 .A . 'THM, NAME : D, ANrbrr CC MM ,

5 ID . Y E 'SI YOU I WE T.]? G Orrn_ [ 1wTE, I) FOR THE ttN]y AW'E'xri '. P o .3 :3 .ES ss 7 : c)1q Or 'AL

6 ST Cr L 1 E1K NTli ' XC'I,119.' r

7 Y E8 ' .,

B ~~ . TOU WERE
: USING TM 1, .7 L T A, S i DART C'OTti IFlZ1 ?

9 A . TES , SIR .

7~ ~D S7= ME' YOU SURE YOU WENT ' TAfFlOUGH; JU G;L YOUEt E :Ft:[ M T NIL3; RE X.1()1 11) ?.

YOU PL» o c;tJ'E L IT ra inam, 7:m UMTHA r[ O a UIWY , s AMA N N«u37

]L .t A. IM, CE-11 :111, r ' ]K YC1 T aE3n C:C :NG IN RECORD XT .ALL .. I Fii WII: A 'VE E~ C'
: 1

7. : 3 LONG CRIMINAL RUCORD .,

14 7.']i;E C : 01'JAT : LET ICE IMC l ?' RRCFi?!C You '.IF' T: cc L'u) . MUiT

1 _°'s I S4 THAT :NO ]: :a 3E ? DOES IMBODY 31,1014?

1 Ei MR . LION ; ]4 !3 I'!' so M ;m.'13 ;I: NGi i ram, CAN E{1 : TU TLPTIE D OFF?

MR , 'WFAY : ill"T UAI,] :; ff, YOUR R ()WOFZ , , :C T'F[ ][ ] !T. K 7 : 7 ? 1M i [ui'£ 8x~

1 81 THE.' ;G Z Ca iTS .

19 T F[ IC :
=Tat',[' W ]T H'PNJ W Z' REAR) THAT IN QII; T 'T F A WH ]:L]S .

20 MR. . . WAY . THE LIGHTS M19 MUMS 112FRE! .

21 'T19'X C oU RT : IML RIGHT . WELL,, :GET"S GO ]UIEPaY . DOES

.z z : A H;E IU]SE R' THAT :C .9 T[TIMED OPT?

ANYBODY STILL ]LAVE 1) 'ID E.I t;KR Y'Ff()!DY'
.Z 3 TURN 'PH F]:lt HE:AI);5E' R' t);F` F'2' HOW ABOUT AT ]FOUR UU 3'GE: , MR . Iii4MIX ,

Z4 ARE: THE MlUDSFM 3 ALL 'MUT] E'D OFF?

25 Ilk . MRB,1t1 : YES .

PA,7 '7r:[ A LL]sS , ('N)'UR,Z' It; EPCfFtT;ER

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I THE I.iat3p'.7' ~ Ckpi.jV Y . :[ 'r im[CrwT B p,, '.C ;HE~

2 18Y Mt . WRIZ] 9IN f :

3 Q. TOU PLED GUILTY A ND W]F':RE , .y 11K N T P.PTCE D , 7'() F O iIlt YE ;I&S P'(y A

~ l3 ZrNlC: .4 FELON' ]:31 POSS]E SSI; t?l 1 OF A FIREARM ()11T MA)!' 181, ; 1997 ,17

a A . TES , 1,31JR .

a . i um nuv r Two ; loin,,, >Ko mll A F TIM YOUR c 0rniz CTl c»v OF » :NT FM :r :NrG
I 114 AUTO POE'. THEET"?

€I AL . Imps, Sl ] .m .

Ql . Y 'C ITJ PLED I^YU'3' IirC'Y TO 7 REC :k ; ."C 'JINZ.; A STOLEN' C:A'PLiI'l d Is Mr,,

l. Q +G U1r ,, GaIt AND OTHER ;?iMMrL rmuTibrd iN ' MY OF 1991?

11 .A . IfE$" S I R„

.12 Q, ' DUE Wag! ('. O;NV '1 ; ("T E D 13 : C A, PLEA . 7'() 'THE ]y'EL .CIZfOFW

:L 3 IT 'H f THE CN'7 S T 'C11)'.C OF A NJ:I 'r I()ll Cof AUGUST 11d, :L99 ' : ., AND S EM ."1EN' C 'E Y)

]L ~4 TO Z'F; CREC E 3i'lF.AR9 i '

k. n~o , s :C]i .

L lIII S EPT]MIEM, 1994 YYOU ]PLED Gs' []IXO'fC TO K,N rTElt '[ ';N G A VEF[ 7C1ME

1 7' INr1g NZ' 7CI? C 'C)mm' A rnarv

18 'A. . Y'E : ffii ,~ S Im .

.19 Q. 'r CI Zr WERE l3 :EN '7'E]V+ CE,Lt TO F ]:V E Y'MUR S, THREE Y EA ,FUS TO f3 EMV T

.2D WITH TWO TEAR-El PROEUVrEEls'

21 A. TES , :a.TR .

IrO U ARE S7' ZL ;G C?fir PR ,CIFW TClZ1 ' ?

;! ~3 A . uar mom R ' ti74 'r .

2 4E Q .. EIZ ff YOU ARE STILL I DN' P1t08AL7?:CON?

2 Fi R ., ONLY CRT PR cwmum rr lm C ibi !r rlr!! Fzac nmr cOF11 ; COUNTY cUL s E .

Eu 1'. ["Tx ~47L :L E 'hC,, iCpMV .R mR()]t'TE 'x :

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3 EPTRM B P:R OF 11999 7C o U P1.8',D GUILTY TO Avonimt

I n. H ~C ,I~~~ As ~,~~~DI,~E~Z1 ' PRC~I ?]~;EiT '7t ' ,, THE '{.94 E1()] > G H, 1 TiLkN, JU!i : D CI1 S,y 'TR .tf(.̀TI Ort

CAE! LAW ]ZINFORCENEENT BY ]FLEEING?

4L A,YRMI SIR .

Q. YOU WERE JAILED IN c O EM COL'rIVC"Y F O R gF , r.11i3 IN 1 PO 9 SIES SF ON OF

A. Ymcs , Si ;Ft .

Q. AND 1140, PROOF OF I :Zt:3 aURPN ( . l E, lai D NO 1]1RI NFE t'S L :[ C ENS U.?

A . THAT ' W AS ]DROPPED .

910 {Q . 'WWe L'?

1 ]. ,A . I W AS C' MUIiG E rf WITH THAT, 1307' TIRT WAS DROPPED .

+2 • BUT YOU DID lift Y.V A'P.N]3 A Y)It:L 'VE S. ' ;3 LTI'.]~1N8 h.' X P THE TINE-11 DZID
:l 3 YOU A,

;L 4 A. 'YE S , sm .

S2 • TDi] ' FUILD 111 OUT-OFF-STATE a : .. ]D . fltl', C NOT A DRIVER,'' .3 L I: (

.E798 P . i!
]L ~5 A. TES, SIR, in' TA L ME, THAI IS WHAT :I HIM, OW- O F-• ;>'I',A ,Z'E I .D . .

LUCUSIS M1.1

~. !3 A. WlTENI 1: 'WMS ivEtR, E&S '. C ; ED T. HAD AN 0 [M"•-ap F .. S r['AT' E :[ . .

D 'T'Hm C ',S
3.9 MUT ] : WAS l UftRE .t'.L' ',ED , w :C ; L'H,
2, 0 fit .. MO N YOU WERE ARRESTED, YOU HAD AIR CIiT'.C-OF . .l3'P,A T E: I . LM . . ON'

21, i' g17, fur n' WAS m3' P Pat omr . .t) ;p - s 7'1 vr E L)Ft ;C 'VER"S L 7 :( . 1O 9 'E ;t

2091 A, . . Ti(), I7' WAS rt(7'I' Aft our ,•()]E'-S' 7'1 vTE EIFL :CV ER '' S L ] : Lr]VN SE ..

21 C! ., AND ' WH;EI Z YOU WEI iM ]3ON fI?EP]? CM OF COBB COUNTY, WHIM YOU

2 41 LF.f! T THE 3A,]; L YOU x D~ NOT WOT E 1?L 1)1RrVIM' B LICENSE? YOU EILD ANA
25

vori MUMI,, COURT REPORTER

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611.

Y
1 ;A . ES .

3 ]k . TES .

Al Q, so, n? YOU TOLD THIS -i BEFORE QNr DIRECT EXIOUN116"i

S i YOU FlILl] AN OUT-OFF- S "i Ii IE:NS E wHE'Iif YOU tiJmx ] [ ] !t C,oj 3Jg

C;OITNT 'Ii',. { D IR, ii YOU GOT aii:f7'r THAT WAS :L :N CCI M, ECT?

P.. .. CMjIr['-OF' .. , 3 ' PA.'!'F C :r . TI .,, OtiT°OF-Sli L : E +C E rf:ilK , I; 7 r :Da iENMN'Z'

EI N 7L7Pi I C:JUq S'i V7C2 T 7' WITH H :C i ONE OF THOSE XV M

'V'I ' fi ;[ m ]: 171 K . :C DID V IS1 '. P HI M 'I i TIMES %7T13 C imP - pk'' -• STATE

jai

11 r z 1 7C 17;N' 7! ASK
R', W11"Ki YOU COULD .

12 'FH.&7' ~i mavir YOU .AA ,k S R BP'FM] X ING TO .

:L 3 :C ;E' YOU i ,ANEMECIEt THIS QUESTION,, WILT I'M REF WING 'r 0 ] : ;3

:L -4 `. CH LI iA . :IS THIS P LkN FOR YOU TO DR I VI : ia SI1M k NNUlH 7

] . !a
j i l E$t]
Q ,. MC p • w , WIF Rr ED ABOUT ]IaVING A. INU z D LICENSE;
CORRECT I?

18 A. . N IC1 „ I W&S; N'r 7' WOR Y167[]1 Q ABOUT XT . 7 . iEiAV I. ]DROVE ni O ]?

]. 9 TIMES fI 17 :T'EIQ iC I'], A NIA ] ; , :ID 1 I'. :C i .- E IMSE . a : l? I M L3 G 0 7C l!IG TO DCO WHAT :1

20, DID,, I MU3 ;N' 7' R EAZ]iY WORRIED D ABOUT ,A DFU' VER."' S L I ' (. ]37 NS EC „

Q, r srr°rr i i ~ejku,m : , r nn> N v ERYCINII , `M c.oICUTS

;Z 2 i gC I' 7 :11 ;I 'T Y ; ] D:RUCF I DEA L ]C N G 1 P1?;3S E £y S I CIrf OF S l7'():LE 'Nf 1 .AUS , , +WO RIt :E .ES

:t 3 ]LBO Cf7C THE. 1 019 M UK?

.'+1 A. 7CH AV' :a X F THE POLICE i BEHIND YCK1,, Y' E 'l 4 ,, SM .

i. S AB01'J !r P. ])Iptn'In t'S L:[C $NfSIZ?

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61 .2

,A . NOT 12;EAI , i 2't, EIl,1_; p1i]' S T, I' M NOT IL It'BC 'Pm] LSS', 1)1lZ V 'Eat . ]; ]!iAV 'E ;

2 l4EV 'E Nt HAD A SI ']ylE a I rT( ; 'TICKET . ; T DKIiur-P x rime T Ft171 N Elm

3 ]G IGr x[7~:3 , NORMAL : C:Hl r«.~3 THAT GET YOU PULLED 0 ~4~E~1~ . 7']3~4T' :i 1 ~1HY' ]C

4 DD N"7 ° ;EtE AM Y WORRY IMO [] T IT .

15 12 . • N) , YOU WERE TILL][C Z N ICR A B OW T A K7: 1!iG7 A ]3 OD31' ',['l D EZINI,ANT AH r A LL

+5 THE Hi2i".Y TO S,A 'V ILIM. A H AND BACK, m ! 'r YOU W 'O[1x1 DN'7' 7BE Ft()3n 2 :l .13
, 7
IMDU T 1!t +0m, 1Mvir rG, A 111u1arl L :C+C EN s ] i?

A . rT o , Pa.c-ns F~ I H v71 E DROVE TI-Mr ROAD & HUNDRED T116IRS, WC, ~

7'ICK Ft E ' ' :3 NO TROOPERS FROM" 18P7CNU ROUTE : L 16 ALL TEE WAY FROM

1.L) MCO N' , Gr EOF : C. :[ : A TO GEORGIA 4

1 ]. ~~ . 1'112' PACT IS! . -~ ~' C)1J1~ S ~ 7" t71 J "Y 1,'j 'THAT YO~ElFt ,MEE ;;]qi ~E'~ TO

1 ~! MR, . :M 'I 'I,L1 ER 7'ILU 7'Fi ;H am WAS DONE WAS : GOING TC BE YOU GOING TO

13'. S EMP HIP! A N D NSHO 'W ' Y '3MIt A . L :[ + CEliM 31 ?

, ~,
14, . , Yk ~ ,~

ZS {Q . :N O T ,, WE `+T:[ ' GIi CURT 7`O VU1T ;LA TIM , BUT THE FACT . FS mC 'TEE

16 END OF YOUR h7"T ;EMP 7' -- YOUR'

.
. AND 7Plx e SECRET :SER V7L 1YE'Ell ATT k W' T

.L 7 ins . 1m 0 or oF n3 ;iS mu , 7CIJ'U D 7m: N'R' ]3 i) nua, DID YOU?

:L .B A . NO, 1: DID NOT .

]L !9 S2 . YOU 7']u ELE m) C '; l]1:L THE C 'C?Ft] t EC'7' ? P

;! Il A . ]C TRIED TO QUila THE JAIL?

(Z • YOU TRIED THROUGH [( AL7'Ii :LR ZVls MILLER 7't) G E T ;C ;N TOUCH ;

`arm

2' :C A . x DID L:i4,,, r 3 'n r 0cr cm WITH RaB 1sRT r f: C :C.L F Ft THROUGH fUTH FTC [ ] :TE

24 r.M: LL EP :,

25 Q ,. YOU TRIED T'fMf7'UGF[ ICAT'F[EM l N E MILLER Z OF l!SAR ,C;11 10, 19981'

PRCTT JMC,Ew, CURT REPORTER

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+613'

1 A. I T 'Fi.]: l :] D ONE L A,,W C 'T' I;rIF TO (;19T IN TOUCH KIM HTM, AND SHE

c:o azanvT arwC Y rr !riotrC m ' WY gm

Q . AND 7t '{}17 GAVE A BI1a15 S ACiI9 TO ]ilRR , I) ;I :D W7C YOU"? ~

~! .. AND xH «. 1 KE5TAGIE WAS, NIIVE , GOT I'M? 11 i . c.IZ .N SE .. FILM. A , :C .s

E. DOME . I ~ ':M GOING 7L' 0 S AMU N Mi , " L ;3 ;N ' !' THAT Rx C Flf7' ?

A. Y 'k ; ~i r T RIC WALES 'mg.' ITESSACM .

+Q . ,ANT) THAT MAIM YOU R AD A ;DR,Y;`FHEEt I 5. LICENSE FOR Y'CRJM9R'11j?,F

9 DzDrt ., .r r.9^"?
;L ~0 1% . l v iD . !mm, KEAS'f7~ I M!]) THE :GIC:IUM91K F OR 'Y 1[l; ' V' I' ( : 'P ZM ' IMPILT PINS

:3 aU" PF 10413 30' 7 70 13 E : 1W REIRFt ;Rl71 -

]'. at S2• tC»,L L , THE zr tnt'X miuv r ivrJ SAID AGAIN A7' !ME ] ,WD OF DiFt] aCT

] . ;3 1.:Cl4M: I'U»'r IC rN ABOUT 'Ta ! ]: .i PLAN 'PG i 110103: U]'? W ' I ; 7']'3 T ZH[3; AI Vni ;ER ,E: YOU

I. SL IRMUt;E GOING 7 7 1) [7'181p, 1 M3 . ASHFORD'S CAR, 13 1 ;TT YOU WERE ALSO G011*3

1 5i 'TO GRET ".[',LEGIL7 ' S C :JU1 AND GO F j1k~CR AND E'L?]t 'PH ` . WILL YOU '.[' ;E LL 7`11AZ'

16'~ .A .GUL [ iR?

17 .A . -ALL ] tT GF I 7 1, Wjiik T T ~3 l~YLh WAS 7 'Z ;EGA L]: IW AS~ .3 1:7 P F 'C),3 :ED 1 7'A MZZU

:1 9 ME 1041) C ]:1riE 140 7 H U CA R . ARE : YOU TALKING OUT wa .? TIME ' T umm I

WAS 170 MIMPT M l :,, OR 7'yi 2 R']: Z0 tZ, 1ftE F' I ;lt]RL L' r '. CI 'J DROPPING T ZEMAZ ()]?. E'

xr wC?mu YOU MUM 7`Q 1 MA,PUP. IT ' (.]L :EAF.,,

C~ . MY R.E7 lMRnf(.l3 YS : !C0 YOM T'F:.s 'PZ I![C>2J"Y ON ]az Fi.FC(.'i' EDUUMUI7P L DNf,

5.3L1z, ma3'E viat YOU waug 1REIF`jum IrfC ; 'Pal

.

221 A, .. I REFERRED MICE; TO THE CAR ; [ .N LI 7C ]I'EC ,7' ]9: KA10 [ ]C ]01 Z ']: i?]f .

24 , M R- WAY : Y '(3171k F]EC)WI'JR . :C iE' Not . F]mu3 ;I :N ' COULD XITST

25 CT JUt ;IF Y Z M TC ' Ff 17 UE,8-7C T ON . TT ' WAS A FAIRLY LENGTHY DIRECT

P'A7^":V I P LI', LZ N ', I".IJ'UA '.7 ' R E F'C)wmA',

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Z ]3 :01I7: 1CU I' C1 N, AIR) ' T R E rE VE WEM] E S Ur1ERA L QUESTIONS X S1 0L1T la t . wn35 C}wl

z ]v0 ABOUT ( :ik'R9 , I iMaly"T ILW E' JUT OF k3'IE ICT' ]: ()] !i TO THE l '71 9J'E ; I'.T

:3 1'c 4' T T E IR . T JUST ', C 'RIrR: ' PH'EW QUESTION Yf ;l? ;DS 7'(] BED C" ;LEA RISP]Z 'P l0

,t 4J1'LV F[l 9 I S ASKINGx ,mO[7"r ,

5 F{7C ]MR . RAR1 I ]: 1!T

Q „ ALT 'r HS VERY E-]Yp OF 'YCIR DIRECT E 7C7k MIli«Vr ;I lDF YOU )f]ENT IC )Z1JE,D

SC1ZCE'TH, ] '111; A1i()1'J'T TZ ]EG A,]; J? ICV][ ]1is YOU Ull , . AND 7PLI EN' USING' ]3I8 ( .̀AR ,

Am) las rim jmncz mv .s cuut .

~ A. . SEE, 'TH ; F0, 1W A Y ;[ WAS v0 bwa THAT Hua PLNf :L .3 x HAVE n] D EF.() ]?
10 T2 E'Grilk i 0F?1? AT WORK . 2'r4 G o 1 x, rzcIF TO 1UV E: TO DV.] .1JE ALL THE WAY TO
11 ' mz, Si vmi :ENLi, 1D'Et x'ZT? ALL ' P H I : %%' Y fi2 kIlK 0010 HERE To T H E' 1'30T EL,r
( r
:L 2 LEAVE. TEE CAR 7~] i:ER.F ;,~ ;AN' CI WALK BACK DOWN T'F E~; SH: )]? . CiX t ' , AR;F: i4
:t 3 TAXI 13; OiC'A: TO ITS, SHI[)1? 'TO ;NR
; ] i] R:R CAR UP . . BY TIRE T :[]MF ]C WOULD
1, $ (x;E'T flAl-~: K T() THE i4 TULWE A AF t]CRl? ORT AND GET l Jkl:[C TO 'T 24MF; 9I' .S CAR,

] . !5 ]~ 1WOjZ rI j)1N i Z, jjhV'E , '~'I;a, !ro F"a : ( ,1K H[]:r4 UF' ROM' WORK . '50, 'C' M' JUM Ir fG.

FC:[]K ROW .AN [ 11 i G OVrt# TO G. E 7" To S;LV]W NpLj[ AND 11-k CR; AND :[Ift-:K F[][M U?

TOO, ;RD T'F UL'.C' S HOW A32 I GOING 7'O GET ?i ROC It n] T ' FUVIC?

1 F~ ~~ . . WILl3] v 1 7' 7P13.ER]C lei P'I ,ju!T W 1[1911:E 7'Z]2.1i3A,I WAS 3o' LNG" TO DROP YOU

19

20 . A . . TF1I17P WAS ! 3' D F '1 0()4y E l) 171) BE THE ()1t I G I; 1ZTLL k'UW, m J'r I a1C :L Hfn,

2Z Ul I) , P'I JUTS rk)WT ALWAYS 130 TIER WAY THEY AR3 ;S 'UF ' f'O S EI) "CID .

.22 ! ~ . TELL KE TICK QiFL]CGN INIIL P ULIJ .

;Z 3 1k . TIRE ()R .XGIrNU. PLAN IL:3 TO 13,' AVI: 'r :LEG ~I1:[ TAKE ;U' 19j4CR; TO THE

HERB :3KOF, lUlTD DROP riles OFT TO F >7C1" m THE C'P & UP', ik ND~ THEN ZCE ;E T' rR1p,

RRT TI: ULE2 1, c !cxtnR T FrRWOA TIPll

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3 Q . ON ROSWIRILL ROAD?

A ., CrtT 1ROSVIJ.:LL, ROAD .

5 Q. A LITTLE 1 MOF Ug ;DE 'Vi : C ; L, P ];X A ZEF,, , ABOtrr w~UVr THE PLIN WAS .,

6 A. . THE PLAN AS PO R M . T O TAKE HIS CAR AND LEANT, HIM Al! bnr

7' HOTEM F.cy01K . I {GC S INT BR, F E„ I 9^AKE La4RE OF 'WHAT I G(r. V TO !CAKE,

8 { CALM . 01F . I F 1 [T',r T ' h [R BODY "Ill Ill l E EfiTl!JP';LE HAG, C.() OUT T' HEW MCR ; ()1!1

9 'I'u' CA A'T10l];1K TO ' SHE, XP,AR .nun, ('.o1MP lIalm . AFTER ]C ; Day 7P3UT , I DROP,

; l L1 THE BUDy' 3[ 15 T Z tCC3AIIS C AA .,, GO BACK 7'() ] MY l ic3'PEI , , , AND ".M E N ]C ' i' E1,I '1

:L ; L 7'LECKC LCOK , I ZJ IE BEi YOU W ME ]M Cii: U P TV re-

.HE
: LA1 NDMUCK ~

12 DINER AN D DROP' rOK OFF, EE1 : 1DO N''^,C EV13 1 KNOW ' PHOM IS A BODY 1 .1F

] . :3 FCCS 'TRUNK . :I SAY , MULIJ, SE ]T LR,E AT' Z'F[] E HC i 7']s-:L . J[ BE ~tT isH ' ~' 13ACT :

FROM 7111S LFITI)MASM ]DINER .

Z Fi S[), moll ' THz IC~AN'Elr~i~:l~R D :[ 1NEP . 1'i 12 G0114,3 TIO MY

16 . H;Cl7 ' ]E:L . :C W MA C OVER ' TEINt1 E TO THE WERE IV ]'3Op, ( DI ET HEIR clut,

17 BALCxC ' TO THE HO TE L, AND THEN [ TRP LU;3 T E1i: BODIES FROM rRzrln .K TO

.Z 8 'rR UM , AND THEN GO c]IK J111C)1;1 T' D17C WAY :E ;N H F31t C'PLI t,.

:L 9 12 . :sao, YOU MOVE A a310U~J° IN BROAD i AY"L r(4a ON 111o SWIML FLOAD?

;> +0 A. IN AL DUFFLE FDUFFLE BPL[ . , ~ I` k.]~1 D

:l Q . JUT D YOU T 'F UUVS F`F R IT ' FROM CAP. V) CA1111

. ,.
r~ r
~ A. IN A. HOTEL RARK rZS G4 PU xr .
2' ~~ .. MM THEN TEE ;P UPLI1 I WAS '. DD I IFL :f'iTB' 7'l 1]E V7:(:'r ZM['' :3 CAx.t L ~Cl

24 WAY TO SAVANNAH D 8A{.]C TO THE J 1;C RP' CQ'.V 7

25 A, . BACK TO THE ]C ;LAMM .A .I ' Fr3?0Rj' 1?ARR;]:Z3GS I,C19C .

F' 217L",CI iI]z :EN' , 1" +Q uiL7i ] EtLF' t?lt'.r ER

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:l Q • HOW LONG D()lE5 7'Et;vP 7'jk1u 7`f} DRIVE TO &RV AM1iPLH?

.2 A . FROM. HERE 3['C T TICI3 Ast';M E R IP, FROM F INFIC AND iii HILLA]? TO SIX

HOURS ..

SE () .. €i 0, Y'oZTIt T 'vi',C imGrr I S YOU 10 J; D P '.CTWE'Et T MILLER DIESCUSSE.1j)

LIFL : C' VI NCR 'NE V' IC'!'] :11 ' S CIO., MO LE; X'fIN'Gi 'I HERE SHOP jr& ~.Ajgj?

E. FROM T'F'! ]C .3 A ,I,L]?' iG ED &CT ' ON?

A. . T RIC i s . TH E WHOLE REASON FOR ]P 'l7W]N 3 7!F3 3 15 . ]~ i Nt~7~1a s Z , Cx1J

a UP 7Pl'3EP .E .. EVEN 'I 'Ff()1RGH! I Sa Mmmy Y cma? En .' 'I N ' 7. 5 : M;I'rnrP a ,, IF 7MS Y

9 C O ME' ; BA.C'FC AND THE PERSON IS NOT 'F[1I.E.R E, YOU'VE' I1-7 Q1! ]k G W ]] H'ClM

:L D OR 7' 1VaJ BEFORE SCY.MP EE() 1 D' Y WORRIES ,NHCIi1'.P THIS IS 111NEVE SIGN

7L :I

7 . :Z J2 . YOU MIME IMAR E () lE' HIM FRIENDS Wc)RKTr I(3 NEXT DCOfit ?

]. :3 j, . 1: WAS NOT 10MR2 I) ;E .

var

1.4

1S K , I WAS x117'T MXEt E Ti MlEt P'Ft IENZr S I W OPMC]] A7' THE (:&E' E .

i E; Q . B LrTr YOUR ' TE,S;'.C I.MClr nr IS 1M3

. r. E ]:]L:LE R IMS COMFORTABLE 1417111 YOU

17' DFL]C'i7i M.'r THE 2UL;L EC~M ) V' I'(".'I; C AP'. TO 5' pOIi?iNNIM AND ALL '] 3;E WAY
~. 8 W~C:2f TO rP]i E K[13$ObVP?

.L 9 a4 . IT' Vr1?1 I5N '11 7C REALLY III iYS'r Em liVA S t. O MF CYFt'P.AH Iz ,It KIM . HE DIDIVT

2' CARE . AB LONG P1;3 I GOT w.r CPa t :BA.C IC 'P0 ~ 7°13: E p L], 1t ;F OR7' AND RU R : F.1)

.. 'l :[ 'F . HE rfF PTER, VMS C:ONi CE'P Xl~D ABOUT F[()1i1 I DID 7 ;7r . ].7P 'MS, 'TU S7,

..
N J
GMT IT THERIZ, INa GET 17' IMcR ; .

23 St . YOUR. TESTIMONY IS TOO wAIS IrHE PILAK:I

24 K. T]ii4'T PTIO THE PUS WE rULD E , BUT ]:!C W RINS1V T F UyMLY 'MAJ
.' JqE

25 C lUI ED , YOU KNOW .

F33 Y I' TI' ] U L EN,, COURT' RMNIRTER

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s 2 ;r

]. Q. NOW, W~;If~1tE TI]:]) YOU TELL H I M YOU WIR E GOING TO T AKIP, 'TA2

2 BODY?

3 TO 11"UWA-MULIf

4 iWHERIE' 011) YOU TIELL HIM?

5 : C N 'E ;~fils]It GUOT.E F(]7d A .i l? ;E G I T3[ C F'Ijjkl7;E Y N .g MO1YAH : , I X19T

is I" I OW TILICE IT TO EMIaaNKIuH .
.~
1119 U ] :l} r "'OH, GOOD . JUST GET F: 1 i ) Of, 11'r WHHOPLE, XT

F: 1 'L L rnEVEA. 1319 S FN .M .

Q ,. sacs,, YOU 1NEti' IrJt TOLD H IM Ak sO t Me A EC, P31 ci E' rs'. e ULc. IR?
A, . NEC1 ,, I D UMEA. TOLD 2i:C ;M A, ;3 "PE'C ]: ] n C mku .

21 q! . T' E [1,]1:E HTF:RE SEVER21i O T'HLE.R P ED]?J GE I;Zr TREE CI ELL WITH 'Ci7U,

]. 2 WER2.]v IT --

;L 3 JAL . YES! ..

;l 4 Q. - ] 3 G O EI B ;QETRIM CFrO PsA) YOU RA I D ~k LOT OF' 7 nIlM MS YOU

IS WI R E :3 1EiOHl7 :N Y '{)tJR TIC'PO OS,, AND ]k LCT OF TIMES YOU WORE IL

1.15 SHIRT .,

k. Ell) PERCENT OiF THE I TZM, I WIL ,3 WITHOUT A SH, 1;FZV .

~. EI Q .~ MID 2 0 ]?;E RC:IM , 7'Ii:EN', WITS A SHIRT?

A- WITH A, SHUT,.

20, Q . PP,Ft',rI C'LrUkRL7t' THAT FIRST

7' WEEP; :[ ' N NUiRCH; [?]? 1915113, IT 1 WA'S~

.Z 1

.2 z 14 . PRETTY MUCH .

?3 Q. XND, 7"]3'E C :OB :B C . I)171 NTY '. CARFI17C1EL49' tiCE;Rav!r P 'px:[ 1RG i1 :GCi7' T0

:! it MRIMI UP 71113 JA1L THEME?

1105 1k . ;{]BB
( COUNTY IS PROHAML'Y CHIC D P' TAE RICHEST '1! A XP]VYIrrG.

RUT]' ALLEN ,r C'CImZ'I' A'.ETORTER

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1 COMMIES ] : 1 q A ,R `ZAN TA . TEF :!t K EI: E ? 'T av 1T E , A7' OWN . YOU DON'T JUVE :

2 °PI 7 WC 11M'Y ABOUT IMINT .

:3 ]:T WIL.3 COLD OUTSIDE, A& D 7 :7e 'WAS COLD :[]l TU, J'AJ :L?

Al A, rto, 197 14,AS rr ,,~r C~C am T rr ~mjl ti r Jk,T L . ,C ST Toms COLD ounsmE .,

:i ~I . . rftN , YOU MT S T[' IO Nf1.l) YOUR C KMi 3ES 1W FLORMAL THAT YOU

E. EXPECT ASSISTANCE GN .

A . . I i) O;N'7' ]3:KP 'E: (. '. C NO 1LS SI :i '.l'ANCT ON '!'F1M M . THAT CAS E LB S I()

8' OLD JIM) ,3 O TRUM t . THEY DON'T ]91MC ANYTHING AL P,INfSI '.C ' M ;F: AiMWTLY

9 IN' P]L1Oli , 7 : I)A . TRA"I' ' ' 1 3 GOING TO GIRT' 7uitiOm' f OUT WHEN' JE GO TO COURT

;L Q O N THE 3, 41C :H . :C HAAFI s ALREADY ]POUND THAT OUT THROUGH ;M-T UW Y' EM .

:l 1 ~ ~ . I THOUGHT YOU T11 ST'I ; F ! :[ :E ID ON DIRECT 7'(}i ] ARU. HOPING MR

]L :2 ASS zSTi FROM THE GO vEMOKEPI!„ . A C(}c);D WOF UD Cart THAT C A SH,?

1 .3 A. 7C 3 E I 7' l1A P'PIMT S, ]L T H'~ LP]?; ENS .. U 7C' P DK)E1 :3 :N' 7' ,. YT' I N);ES rI ''rC ,
3, 4 rVs tTar P.11ULLLY THAT 1 .AM[ ROPING FOR JURTHzNC 014 TEAT cAS1y .

Sl1r1 FACT, IT :[3 EIc.] ;; EDMA1D FOR TRIJUL IN JULY?

1 E~ Ac J tlJ .,T y ATH

Q~ . m! n s vor SEEN DIS >Kis, .a R"D Am ii

. A, IT WILL ]3 1 E D ] : :3 1K T S'S 2 11D C ibf %T[J LT 14M

:19 .12 RAS ZTO P BEEN 1 1]:~33 M I 9IO ]37D

. IF, 7CQu CAN Abf.MTER THE ClTUS'TI 'C)x1, IT

:Z 0 iv anus iam?,

~~ .1 A. NO, SIR .

It,t ~~ . 1 JaW ' , ROBERT iM'I I o~]~ ;R uUMT ! TO YOU ABOUT LIBLIVIRRIING DRUGS

2, :3 FOR Z'e'•],GA, I ' IiIN S (?1J ; CORRECT?

2, 46 A, . ONE '1' ] ;11EP H .E. M EN T]C i] 1 NED s+C] n 7'1 u NC , A1BQi ]r'1' 1 DE 1,] : iT 1E:EiI 'N(3 SOME

2S TAI Fy]B: D E 'Rc)M ONE PLACE TO A NCf9'2i lE;R AFTER ALL THIS C17'f3 :EEi, STUFF WA S

PATH X LLE :bT ,, COURT M.PolkillfilL

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15 :1 9

1 T{ DOKE1!i C 'AFt ]3" OA F' . . HE SA I D HIM HAD SOir[f3 F RI 'mm S ] : 1 !X HIGH P uzi(',]gs ,

2 1?O 0TIMC.L , PLKE'S O R MMI TEVEUX THAT DEALT M WEED AND EMERIVIIING,

.3 AND 1[ 3 COULD GET : ME' IN TEAT TOO SOCIVE'll Oil, LATER .

4 9 . IUTa WHERE tiURS THIR FOOTBALL PZLlF0rHnR_ s

.. F[]3 DIDN'T ft JUT WHAT TEAM OF,, »1NYZ `F[I]YG17 ?A . HE SPA :Z D REVS GOT A

FEW

Q „ W1 il9RE ; DID VIXT LIVE?

A . . HIR E III A TZAR I'.A IS ()l!tEW Tf2, RE .

qi . DIDN'T Fi ]E TALK A.EI [)1J'r v f{?V ' ING; K9;R I J tTi9NA , msvPW 'EFClq AT] AN'T A JUT D

I Qi S AjTa°iN'NM i ?

11

.13 190 .

:L 4 S YOU WERE ] C 1!T'T EF .V C R WITO ]BY 7'HS SECRET VICE ON M R ,C:FI ;3RD

:L!5 S+n HI L FC You WERE STILL :UN JIVE :L , `flE 1ft Err r,r Y'C~t1-?

]L ~ 5 A. T ES .

].'1 ~~ . AND THEN Y' ()17 WE'RE- INTlMI' V'I'F~:~~1E:Q En! 'PHEW SECRET SEIMCE IN AL

3 .11 HOTEL ON PUMCM 6TH7

1 so Pi .. KROQNTI THAT T 'I 'ME , ,. YES .

20 Q . ISN'T IT rREn, TEAT I oN' rtiAIRCE 31R n , 11 ; TEX, ,7, AS ih,, You riou) + rm~

21, S E(:1LET :3 E:k2V'a:('.]3 . NIPPER, THAT, H E WAS 9 'tfj?]PioSE :I) 'F o ;

;'E'VE ja
[

22 SClrf]I'I'HI'Zt('s E' I'SPl's TO D17 . :i17iME ` GUY NAME 1 ' 51AEG' A, I' ,, O N 11. ().E' F[7[ .3

23 FRIENDS? OR A G UY rTA1M E 7'ZSGA ]:,, A f!]y4CIi: 021TI THAT VULS SUPPOSED

.Z 4 TO E!]3 AFFILIATED WITH HIM, HE WAS 19UPP10 .15SID 7-0 GIVE ME FIVE

.Z 5 1?'Oi32R]I3 OF WEED, OR . SOMETHING LIKE 7'() ' TAXII TO HI1 V'ANZJAH ME)

PAT7P :[ A11211, COURT ItIRPORTIER

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4 -- JUN 25, 1-998

I. Sk:ZZ AlfI) iCO NIF~ 1B,A C'N ; 1m'ir ;r:EYic m1a'ni' .. 1"

2 .A . 'T WOC 'WA ASS JS OMMTKIN'G, 13:E PROBABLY ;M-mrinlONi;I] ' TC, s cE , fflJ 'P nua

3 ',S ;5'UP' F' OS ;ED, 970 M: L IRk ; ~~'T 'E;Ft ;LVE '~F ~7C'r ;HIrrC. ;HA,f~~~l~]!~~ 'U IN 1113

4 FUTURE . TRAT tivAsK"T LIM, soru,?,v ; HI w, ; pro faepar ;kFulut z car om

+6 Q. SIR, IF YOU CAN i4N 'S 'P11: 1 R. TRIP, QUESTIC,Nj~ THE QUESTION' 1 .13

r RO B ERT : MI LLaE,R TALKED TO YOU Allo ur L amlo Fu []virg )MAIJU1 UI.A TO

13 ;i N VAS'RtAH?

FI .. ROBERT ]~l 1 ral l M DIDN'T TALK 974) MZ ABOUT .IT . 3E r IZIR T 'I;OI +T ;EQ

1 , (1 S ()]KE T F:[ ]CIVG M t] 1Um' 31T . ] [ iHEAAI] HIM S,AY'INGar S OrpE'T'A '];Z4 s ABOUT ]:T .

~ ]. ET' D YI Rt• • P Z'JU :JK TO M E LIKE IT WAS (sIDI N(r TO IUV PPE :r t ,, ' THfC)17G H .

12 7zs , H '.k : ])m TALK 7" 1) Mf g; :C : E' auvT is ;vin YOU MU ~' T TO ;[€ lq' C}ti+l, BE LI7C

]. 3 NOT 'rc 7 " 1 u M,.j:'['; ENR' : [ ',P Tri lA :i GOING, TO 1I APIT11 . FEI: JUST MIMPCI OAI11,9f)

14 I'll .

15 ID . THAT WAS THE QUESTION . f3 76 17i]

:) 'TAIJi 'I'0, YOU ABOUT XT?

;L 16 A, 'Y'E A l [ „ ;BUT :[ DON "F WOr 7`C? MAKE IT SOUND LIKE Fill DOZED TI)

aL 7 mE ma's nimT WAS GCra:icJ rto aAPv 1 rm , T13,AN NAI'SN' '77 GOIN's TO
], ~3 F MP F'121 .

Q . WILL, AGAIN, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU AsfSl 'FI ER. ME GtU]ES'I' T. ()W,

2 . () s7C 1 ii . mE T 'ou) YOU iD N ' ma C'p[ 15 'm . :l'9981 - - LBT ME: A191 YOU TR' C ; S :

2 ]. z SaV T' 7 . '. C 'T RIM' 'T'BAT ROBERT TOLD x '()17 RE THOUGHT 7'Fa r vus SECRET

22 SP WiT I CIP, OR. 7'~i]¢ A i, f7Mi pR, I ' 7' :[ ;E3 MERLE RZALLY AP"TIM 'T Z I .(IU , ARD TREY

23 ' WAar C ;m HIM Z'O 'rUo f ;L :N r 3 lmm ] ;,C

24 IPA HE DID TIML ]KIPi THAT -

.2 5 i~ . A ND JIM '!'C)]:,7 0 YOU THEY i MCiV2 91) A . 1 1)'T OF 1 MAF L]CJU ADla,?

PA,7xC t A MAN, COURT REPCILTSM,

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623 .

1 'A . HE: DID nC] ;L bfF c THAT ' Plt7Cf, .

2 Q . MD YM TOLD 7'1 O SECRET :3E1ftV'I ' (.' J~ T ARV OK r?i.kltC;Ft + 5 T'If i'

3 AA. YES .

4 Q• NOW , ITHE I~f Y0 U' M.1]7-H zr . v r :NG ~ 7P13:6 Ek F:1J, DID Y Ci[l GO OVER 17 0 1r R

5 T2 SZ7:141 7:I+1Yi' DID Tp U' E'1 U C 'Z']:CE YOUR T '1: :3 'T I MIC ?I'UT W 7:7C]i Z' F C13

r5 G :O'VEMBI ENTi '

.~ A . Trn.L4 T Z) ( ) 'you ]!Kg A ir a Y 3 'F mI' ? ]'-Mv'E 1 EVER USE TRAM 1P E Y ON

!3

Q .~ FMiC'T IC 13 'TNIE QUET :L {O N fS ~WD MiSW EFt:3 ?

1 C~ A" 7 FUff WENT OVER, A COUPLE QUlClS'TIC UT:3 Ar[I) M'S75;Et8 , BUT 7 :
DIDN'T' P]LAC TT.CM A sf7iTHIP'f(: ' WT I 'j i A PEN QNf ~V]jAl' BOARD RIGHT TVI :1t;E .

12 10 . YOU WENT s?VEA, &LL, YOUR QUESTIORS?

'13 jk . ALLL :C DID WAS' ~C~ 4'KE: 171-113 (:~~;3;6~' ~~'1~ TAPES Psr]) L1411 EN' T0 TKIS

:E 4 lx IG F[7C HERE, Arr Yy nia, WAS: :['P .

L'.5 0. AND URN YOU WENT Ci1711 mER iD UME6T' z OMl YOU WERE G0=0 rio fm

]L !~ lV3:KEI?,. AND YIDUR6 MSTAM 2tS ?

1 . fl Q 0 V3]VT ]T TRUE M R6 V MILLER ALSO TOLD YC )[7 TW17C 'T Z' E :(»4I F TWS

151 s Ful KG m 3'TCH !E m BY, 7PRE M TM Oe.]n I Es :[ "N E' El3 7ft[]MVT Arfl) ]N1ARM 0F

20 ~. 5~ ~ ia3 ?

21 .A' . Y' E "Cs" sm

.,

. 22 Q. MT) 1]IUFF' F.l: . .

.
906G
3 .ART I -1 OCi I1 1 017 . C ;4'RA.S']CMG r UM iJ'[rJU NA, , XltEN f''T

;2 3

'24 jk . ',r'ES , :in'

. NOT 1! ; L L+'lm lBms,~ ' T KC1 ; Ji3H .

.t !5 o. FIELD 1 3, AG 51 ARE G0 D 10i . 1MAF , ]C :7'ITAM 1 IS (? 3;9PE 'Sf O1 BT' pL7C lTB D ][ lJ 5 0

12;R IT 9: JUL FM,, COURT REIPO A.7'l,aI

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].

2 A . IT COULD 'BE .

3 Q. W FIC I WOULD LIKE TO SIC) I 5 CK) iDV 'E:R THE '.C,plP 'E:,ci . AG~~I : C] t~ . ]C ]?

4 WE CAN M'JE 7 T]E T'FLIU .qI BGF .7 C l?'TS FO R THE FY lt:3'P nun, (:()'VEMIK EN'Z`

5 :EX1.I] :13I T Ei l3-A, , AND I G i]EES :3 TINE :I"R19,br ,3 CRI P 7C ;3 A.F2, 58 i -•13, 11' THEY

CO i7I 1) B E R7EDI .i M I St'f7 P]Ep .

7 7IR . MIRY : ;DOS YOU m to;P0is F.? 'r0 J)]ykX THE ENTIRE' 'CAPE ,

.9

MR . F uuZB I r' I ;. YES .

]. p r9x . WF MY : I W AS JUST GOING: 'rCi ; 'r1;hGG z.3'P THAT 'k it] i Aa's

] . JL W, COULD G C) 'FHA .C)i mNH 7'] a oU lyl3 'TIt?I F :[ IN G , BY RZFERR,I ;sr(s TO THE

num C a :CPT' , iuz JC '.C 'M; I: C. wr N[Lxlm TH :pYGS i A:LIONfCR R A TF[1 MI Z'FM] K k' I 'EYI FC;

THE EN7' :C J19 7M; P $ FI{x;A M ..

19 , THE COURT : IT DOF.;3 1N'Z' Zti WITR . mWEV3 E R YC) u PP,ECI?ER

15 IS 1?';LNE; .. GC f MEAD MD ]?i4S9', OUT 7'H1R T FUUT 5C'F :] C ]P'T S .

16 ]MR.- KAREI7CN : ]: ' LL 7C13:GL, 3 mu viamr . SINCE :I'M G'Or NfG TO

:L 7 5TART A bfi) STOP, LET'S TRY USING THE S P'E NCEIR .S .

:L +B `,Cm ; w; i ' TN'us ;3 : iax+ Cussil, la . 1 6EF'C)It :E m J S nllt' Z', ( avN YOU

]L !9 G'I 'V 7 M E AL COPT OF 5I f1-- 1B 3

:3 Al r MI . E UU:MIr'I .. SI;fFtl3, ]: THOUGHT 3701U EUU) 171 ., 11 LL 10 CI

21 I!] M14D &ND, G.:C 'VE YOU BOTH OF THEM .

.. ('IMEIREiJ1 ?ON f A : P OR7P : C ON ' OF GCI«] ?1 RNMICUT IS ] sMH; I M ;C 'T 58-IL

2 c~ WJL3 PUL', [;ED , FOR THE' COMIT AND JURY) .

24 BY MR . IM"REJ :N :

25 Q! . A ,S. YOU NOM In, C)]!1 DIRSCT' , THAT : C . 3 rim., 'Vyurr FI' F u3'r PJC]-TFtE:11('. lB

FrICTI MME NI ,, C41OUTO REPORTER

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62 3

1 ,r a vi.E Pimm Tcn 1Fi cumftTE, m i z 7

2 A . lfms~ .

3 ~( AN 'C)7ME R. PART CN? GCiVERNM IEMV S IEXH7 B7C'.V 5 8 - •A WAS

.4 1 ?:wn,1? F m THE I.O UP'.7" AND XJftY') ..

5 BY Mg t . . fiA. FR C 7N

!S Q , MERE MR . MILLER IS FU,]F 6A .F L7UM V) VIM? IS ]A PEOC ;xV E, ] HE' '~ i

.'
Rl$ ]MpK[MG 7 ' () THE ] B 1ONfI) ]DEAL ; CORI t]EC T?

va T 9 L 7 n'TE ioamn , 3 Csp+5 .

9C) ,, YOU LAVE GOTTEN A. 1?1Y+D m~ l±l 'DME «pm pCe ' PZE ~C:jk'I m]: W~S0NIv

Z 0~ C 'OMEC'7';r

11 A . YES, SIR .

12 10 . AND 1415 800 brUMBERIP

13 A. YES ,, S IF :-

.L 4 Q. 19 UU T 7 :ZJ THE PAPERWORK YOU P at ODUf : ].]D7

al !5 A . YES, SIR .

I I5

17 A. NOT VIE LMI ;[ :R 1 V, WE' MWE (S ls'1E'N' 3713'r , FlI7!P Z'F CE Z:E ]: €3 A FxIUPEP '.
~ , E3 S()MMIIfVEtE MN'T' HAS E[ ]: :3 ,NT]1 [] MR OZT IT' .

l 51 Q ., 1'{)77 MOM G I:V] E1N niiv F Z'() THE GFO V ITU MEN f7' ?

2 CI A L .. 1111 NO! .S O RE IF ] : DID 0313 NCC17 7 , B I CM^ THE (;iDV ' E:jt1V]qBTf7^ ~WAC1, 1~I T`F[

2 ].

22 +Q . B M' YOT7 ICU MIM E CY. L' 1H R P ' PAPERWORK YOU TI] L 1 Y N' 1 ' GIVE .CID
' TIM

.2 3

.Z 4 1 NG , I 0011"r HAI T.6 P M( PAPE 1Z'W OFM .

:t.5 I.Z . NOW, THE A:["TCRICKY 7!Ii ;[;N G , l 11P. . MILLER YOU M E W WAS 7'2t'YTN IG

eAmir :r Amaw , MUM' REPCIEVOIRR

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.._~ .

1. TV IURB A PAID AZ'7'O]EtN'El3F 'ro IHa,E'ENT) ]UHI IN T'EI] :;3 C'otA!T'FE`~PSE'I'TIrtf ;

2 '. C'A~t ]s'7

3 .A . YUS ..

4 IQ . C.0FA]ZXCT'T

S} . AND fi J , wIS T R I ' MIZ+ 3a 910 GET jF+a' []' c)t r.r T I[ I j i : [ 1M r.[ojq,j3 Y ' Fr a P,

TRAT PURPOSE?

2t . Zm , Fri
. 'W 'A -s r1"T 7'F a IN !G, T+D GET ME ; ()13 'T E'()] t TEAT P' CIFt 7 P+08 ' F : ., HEM

g WAS 7 VY xN 'G~ IVID G ~1 , T ,M E, OUT 7'() GET 1 !S~ aN' F ;7 C ESQ ' F[]3 COULD G FF ',C, YOU

Z. 0 M11?' W, SOME HONEY ]FI DR . (.0] MM[I; . r ; 3,AR T,, ;N N'LI ]iii WAS ' TA .y3[lqG 7'() +GE, 7' 1 lE

1 ~. TO G E T THAT ]7IA MC3r 0 F . ] :1 J1; S :0 AE C UU!i G1`1]3 IT TO Va1 HE'S.]" l n .

12 RA7 C]1EA . 7:14] E IS 1iVD 1191i 90 P0,cH : )[qy NEy,, ;HE ' (,jUK G~ F:" C :MC q rjy[ FROM E[E~t

1 3'• P CIFt PiN ' 2,'CT om]rY . :C]EIA .'!"' :3 ;MY t7]N` DE2«3 TAND][ JM3 . T]EiA,'!" ' ;3 TEE ', REMS O1N

14 .HE. `+TA N''I'E: 1? '3' IiT ]ZING ;3 O EiJ1 13 , EiD AiJ'S T? IRE' COULD ][ ]!TPA, T+: a l 3 H[ F Nt, AND

15 S H 'E: 1f+ D UI,i) H' I' DE MORE N O IrfEff 'TC i (x]E' T .FS ,PIT ' Z'OZI E 'Y,

.L 6 IQ . f1I 1i I S A ]3EF 'ER1E NC' E : TO 'I' 1i 13 A,Z'7 .' O1RLNk T?

:l '7 . 11I ULY :

]CR iZ 0UI,l) 'WE . » 1PPA'.C)IUr:H?

]~ a3 TIRE C. ()1 JRT : YB Si ..

20 but . NuVr : F3a ;.P E0fi ui1., ' WE. GET TOO FPLft ; I :N7` C1 THESE

23 . TFtiC KSC : EZ :[ 'PT S,, i M yrGD L :C 1 RE SOME (.L!q; ftiT a[ r fit

22 UT'R?3r, Et9'Tju!TpIrr(: 'OF' I Cc7'UR . Ft1TLIrt{: BEFORE WAS 'T'H 1'.C TEE 1# IZ'rrPES S 6nkS

23 NOT {sO IN(x T'C ) 33 :E PJAX' W E X) 'r 0 TESTIFY AS TO WTUV.r Nlk„ ; MT LLlKR HIJLS

24 T Flf] :2 CK IN IGr CY R ]M ] K 4'NT . AT MAST 'E :EIA .T, WAS 7'11 :E RULING (]]N LI ]: It ;EC'7' .

25 ,5 o , ; C ' P s f JlKMS THE NIA : 'FHk , SA MB RULING , AF'V aI LS 771)

PA7"T .I AJ , L1EN' , C.i]OP,a' I1;EP'CIFt'.C :4R.

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ViDL SE - JIM 2 3 , ;L 9 9 a

Ei :? ! 5

c :RGs s -• 1"MA MD: NAT 1011 . 7 T ,R E ' WANTS I c,EL0 ;5;s- UC vM z rrs, MR . ] ?; LAZ fTE

.: ABOUT TiIRU r1R . P Y, IM E , SAID, T"HAT"' S TEE SAME RULING C art 1D IFiX ( :T

A ND CROSS . OTHERWISE 1r1r IS ] 3 S SP XT'L , A LL7 C F[Z :3 CI .r.zm,

5 'TIM COURT ., T, ', L';FIoCf(; ]'3 'i' TArmw vit . HARB ; I N WAS S F:EMEiINfG TO

6 :Day WAS E' X W;D 017P WHAT WAS ; L N' M . F' I, ' T v is ;Nl :Zr{I) .

7 ]KR . WJRMY : WEA7C RS WAS ASKING :C3 W IUMC WAS xW

B MR . MILLCIViS KIM .

m ft . i iI mBZ 'r f z, nf i
: CHE F D :[ SCtif ;i :}'IOws .

7 . I) Ti E C',0a JhT : I Jr[F;3 T DON'T Ft1c+wAZz~ 'rHA,7' aUss7PTlO N' . . E EEC)

]. aL n '1 iLNTi ; ;C ' P IS CORRECT 7'KU E[it . H[FLI t]3 IN' ]: ;3 Ev7' :E'I'Li E m T0 ASK
MR . Q IzAITrB WHAT ME TF[cnsGHT III MILLER MEAM .

1 .t ( MCD CiP ]BENr c:li CCirT] "3ERID rCJE )

14 BY MR . IMBIN :

15 IQ . Now, I 7'1ioU mI",C You 'I'ES ~1 '7ClE' IL~ L) RARL]MEt 'I!RA'r TIRE- RING WAS

16 JUSIT TC i EXPLAIN TO 119 . MILLER WHERE TEE THOUSAND DOLLARS WIEW.r .

;L 7 i?, . AND :U YOU WILL Et D[lM!f BE:FI,, EA T!,a; :C:BR THE TTR)3LISPN ) DOLLARS RK

:L 8 PA i LI 14E WITH WAS F'M :HI S t ]yAW'Y'fU t f AND E# E USED 7L"RAT TROUISA v D
7L !~ i? C)LUMS T C) PAT t +fY E IC)3M . . 3 Q, NOW HX 1 !J:E uni ; A REASON wa i:1c ' x wx

, ; I) 7']'; i DU'~«UM L1()7L ;GA R :i w$ tM ;' 'P0 , . . SO' , lJ0'W 1[]5 HAS 13,0 7' TO GUT ' TA LE . RING

2 ]L TO EXPLAIN "e+J 91^C]3E R. ] : 211E M!]:USR. `111, 6AX TIRE 7MIDUSIM1 D LK3L:LAx : ; ; :FOR

2' e!

2 3; Q! . E V2 :M TV', .. 1 KIIS al ~73 C[JS SE]? WITH YOU 0T 'F [1M WAYS S tf(;]'i AS

24 USING P01CTN'I )S 0F' rURMn TA1K A TO S pAQUIT NAlE ]E'{ DA. MUSING M1t)Z11Y MR

25

P"FlTr['I A LI-I COURT REPOWPER

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1526

A . NO, «3 :L :R, ME MINER SCkC' D paTTrI]' I Nl; , AB4t1i1'.C R ADS ILKI ; ]1pN IT FOR A

3 BUT 1113 TALKED 7'0 YOU A BC11M ]RA,Z,.1 :C1NG r[o]WY THAT WA Y?

It )k , NO, STIR,, F[l r N E "L iER P'UMNE 'LI THAT . THAT WAS' JUST SOMEETHINC,

ME SA:[1 ] JUST CIM ' OF` 7^13 ;E BLUE CUR DAY, BUT HE N F:7 ER P]yAN VEy) z1' . .

NEVER MW A . F?EAN 9 .' A IT .

(WHERS1'J :POK A PC IF .7";[ 1 DN' 0]? GCiIFF, R NMME C'S MAC HIE1 ]C T 5 8 -- A

WAS Pi ANYED IP0 ;R THE COURT pa n) J UIRLY s .

BY MR . RALRIEUX :

10 o . rw ti,r, z'rr imi,o»oi m, Tai mi . v rn~:GEP. 'roil wIL a, Sao viuvr

11, w ttr icA,rr In imo> in, iiamu 3F THOSE TFE tavG s, Y0a' IMS TMAN rc. .;LB, c grr

12, 'TEH RIM; AND (»AH R.]:I~:GLE:,, T'HE' iiox I3~ ruvrTER;>

13 ,A . TV

.14 ~ . AND ;~ THAT WAS A ItEFTNt1R: NC'E 'ri0 THE, RING AS WELL? THAT 'WA.S~

.l 5 vHF, Tlfi Tlr'f[ t imp . iGuHEF~;~t:C ;m?'

:1+ 6 A . 'D ' ES .

1 17 +(WH E R ]CU PCrkr A P 'Cl1t'.[' MIrf #]: E' GK )IT:E R N1iI 9]!PT' S,

3 .13 vas PLAYED ]FOR, THE COURT MID JTYRY) .

]. 9 Eff HR ., ;EIA.F : E3 :C 3R

2, L! (1 .. 7' H] E RE ]!ERV«. l E TO THE YOU IEt Arl I.̀AGL ZD iGA,1I1 t ; L EM ,lP.

21. A LIXETT THE EIOI !FiD 7'fMERE ; T 15 THAT C' C1f mgC '7 'i" TUC 'S 1U!iiD T`El 1 l

22 RIMPIERINCIR T() THAT?

23 .A, . Y '1 .;; ,

24 +Q . Kill, V'I s :L 'Tm7 :om is, i ii RET]CltUI(,E, T'Cf WEN '.C{?U' FM1p G PC)N:E - •--

25 IA . T0 9CK E C :()]9 ;B COUNTY JUL IUD SAW M R~. ;MII A];,1ER .

F IC"L' 'I 1?,I ,7 A'N , S.17UP, 7' R:BP 'tIFtT ;ER .

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1
i7iD L I ~F - UrZA 1 2 3 , 19918

Ei ~t '7

:L (~ . ] : 1? YOU WILL, LET KE F' ]C ]1I$F [ '.L'IJ E

2 Al!'r EA, YOU WER E BONDED OUT ; CIRRECT?

A ., YES .

v. EvP YOUR 'TE s 7 ? :[ ]M om! IS YOU TALKED 1 U3IOt] T 1 P; LA,t f A FOR ' um C:3 ;
I sw " r 7li7u P: ]:(N';EI T Z'
6' .A . . YES .,

7 Q. YOU li, AD TALKED rC 7" Z,lElGA , ]:,, HAS1Z V'F 7i, o17?

a A. 1901, :C HAS) 1901' TALKED TO T :.;,'' BGAJL ALSGLfT ' T V1, AIRPORT .
1~ . D z Drr "T YOU HEAR T H AT VOICE ANCI) T :HxrrIC 11' WAS TZPW A.a, ?

ID A. :C ' I' v[] : (,]K'T HAVE EI] 11 E'N . :C ]7iCIZ1 o 'r A vow ,

7L ;i Q. 7M :E R.E; : C AS A It :EF' E~Ft 1~[~C'E ~ '.rl:) TALE TO ]Y.LA . , A N D SHE SAID HE WAS

y. 2 f31'J 'PPCISEM TO CALL HER ]3:ACR, THAT Y8 JUMOTEEPIt REVEREVC13' Tic) THE

y. .3 BOND DIM . YOU SAID :

] 'M GOING TO DRIVE TO SAVANNAH .

1 ~4 A„ imps, THAT 'S TALKING' ABOUT n il, BOND lmu ; 'WFa .l!T I (.̀ x KE' E mcK

FM

~ s. ( TAIF[l$] 2 EUP(7N A PORTION OF txOVE Fl1V]IO'Nf7, r ; S E.}C13' x B I ' 7 ' 58-A

17 WAS PLAYED FOR 'rHE~ I' O [3 T,7' AND .T1UR2' Jl .. I

BY but . HlIMINf ,

S~ . :r BELIEVE YOUR. TESTIMONY ON DIRECT WAS THE FINGER PIECE

:[ .S PL ~~ :6FF~~l~]vC~, SC~7 THE ;RI bE( ; ?

S :C IR .

I1IM DID YOU IJ]NDERS'rAS 11) MR . IKILUM TO ]31 SfXTEN'C'r ];; L bI 3CGUIT

2'. 3 PAN YOU S QPMP I E ,u'ruk FOR 'PHEW RING?

24,

25, Q! . SCI ,. 1ffE' 1e; ;E'0 'C:U:3 ' T 'NG{ R;I {G h7' HERE ON THE BOND L lMU L AND TEE

PATTz ALLEN, ooum iRu, c m,rE ; .

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ZrlJlq 23j, 1998

l i . 2B

:L RX' NG1' I

2 A . 7 C 1 ES .

]3 Lt , NOW, WITH FtLE- 1;.ARl) TO TIM BOND DD U~, MR ., 'M' E D !]]OZA, , lD zD YOU

SlAllf WAS FROM VIVEIC02,

Q .. AND 'HE : D ;I DNf`". C RAVE A G EtIFiE N CARD?

A , . Em, ] a I D ar[ ' '[' BINS.' A, GREEN C ; 4'R D,

Q! . A F I) y Ol C r :3 ;PO iR~ F~ jS P ALt f7 L la ;H, ~~l !~~ F[l~ ~SPCIFCIf l~1 'ISH f ;'

9 ..
;L Q i~ . DID MR . M]ENDOZAA SFIEM]K EN[,7LIS' F;E ',r

:l 1 A. VERY, YVERY, VERY Li I9' ~m E . Wk' YHZ TiEIR ,F 319, O R FOUR, WaRms

S2 • A N D MR . r[ 7C ]L UT. DID NOT SIMU SPAR Z Sl i ?

3~ : 3 lqi:) , Ft z DOES N 'Cf7' .,

yA :3 0 , C;t)16T M[]I f7LCA Z']; ()l!1 Al{C)TTr Tills F"I,jUV TWIT13 Mxt„ ;MElmI]ZA, mu

] , :i i?]tIM7a:C;LY ' n]a'rnim YOU A ND MR . b[~~]~TD02:20

1 Ei A . NO, I7' WAS 1?RIMAFt :[ 'G Y 111T.-'P'W'E ~04 HIM AND MRS

GlAA,ftIE:I.1]L:E . :31EiE ' CAN 5«>]UK M1Ga Ll So Fl VITL7C i GCOI) . f:[!C. TAII(ARD 170 HEEL

1 fl Cfrr 'PH ' EW PlMNfE: EVERY ' TIrSI "j .

1 9, ~~ e~i mr Ya i[r To mrt . rnigm o ozA rBE im i soi1 APi oxrr IT?

20 .A, . Y'E ;:i,, I 9'AUB I) TO MR . NIER)OZA TOO .

. 21 (W I-[1,0t;EUP()J ![ A , , Pt]]R' fi I C)!1 00' GOiNMUJ] KEEf7'"S EZR i B I 7' 38-h

at 2 WAS ;LATIN) FOR THB COURT AND JURY), .

.Z 3 5~ , WHEN ' C LOT]' i q' T V il .? BOTTOM' C) 1? PACM.1 12 ] fEt . KEUIR SAID

,14 Z T E MIGHT 11133 AB IA TO WORK Sl7;nnuI :NG OI TT FOR TIpAT , AITID YOU SAID

:?!S :C T 'CI IjD YOU I'M GA) INO TO IIO ALL THAT M E'SI I)»Y, IUv ;D THEN YOU

;P,AT'7' I ALLEN , COURT MPRORIMP,

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629

i REFER 'ro 7' Z J n L iz17[ . AG~j 1 :[]v A7' ;r ;HT' BOTTOM OF T 1 '~ 1E PAtz ; E, ]: ' 1k! G ~C) ~C l!1G 7' ( ),

2 D0 T 'FUVr , ME) I' 'Is 1 s 0 T 1 zc3 TO 1)0 TFII ;~, M'E *mc-.ANf THING 'rusmw Y, 7mo SE:

:3 lU 3; E A '.1 .1? :ER I, ]: l!TiJ TO 'PH 'E W xm'c AND 7,'1il41 BOND T 'E [YN 37 '~

,t A. 5 ' 2 .4, 7'IMT" IS WHE N :[ C'MUR RACK T'C BM1 DAY FROM SA VA NNAH .

;i Q, . NOW, AC. A IN ' , YOU SAY YOU HA ,NT. B 1UR1 TA1 ,FC ;C ;NG 2U 3O[]T ]? ;LA N A

FOR 'w BILI1C, 5 ?

q~ . AND 1WH :CI WAS z f : E ]M?

.A. . JIMMY I S ;S U F'P O S EL7I TO B I E: Ji D17iZ'l5r AND ]EiF" .i S dF 'PI7 S ElI TO SAY

Lo E3I . 1 NAME ; [ s ZU 1 :3 O iV ' BECAUSE HI N A NII JODE ,E HAD A LITIME TIRING

:L 1 137011M O N 13S H I rf1) K A7'ICKRIrf1 V S BACK, NO Ell?. MMA )3VT SAY xnrv :3

:l 2 NAME : C :N FRONT OF HATRER11119 .

:L 3 ~~ . :C THOUGHT YOU SQUID Zf (] ]DE V ;3 NA M' Z $ JAS CI lil . ,

Jl ~ ik . tm , Fr l c WAS :3 ' QPlv (}; 3 ui 7 " (7 SAY HIS Ian im 3 casON f . JI' D acr ins

tiTl);DEZP . . J 'CIIMER'S :y I S T FM DCtE CS IVT L :C ;KE: J i : ClM, SO RE CAN'T CALL HEF6

MUSE: NO SAX T 'I" ' ; 3 HIM . I NIGHT HAVE ] KT 21 ; P~]) THEM UP 1 iARZ,9:zl R,

Bin I r' : 3 JASON AND J Z' hQcY, Eur 11, 1q AS zn): OEI E ;,~

1 fl Q ,, YOU ' F1 -11Ll C T19IJC :C ;N G ABOUT A THIRD PERSON TEIAT WAS ]: ]f P'F.] :SO N ' .

19~ A. . THAT W AS , 7QLI M3 . SHE MUSS IN V ISI7'NT IC irf WITH ME THAT I)JvIC .

20, 'W 'E' ti COT UP T ' CMy IE' TH; F M .

21 12 . IBM! YOU )OV Ei SIff. t ,NG SliMRXP WAS { .IdlLLIG) JAtiiOP't i

.Z 2 A. nr1m 3 I C :xL'LE 'Iv nwo [7 r . Fuc WAS : 3 1QF' F 0 (N3 'LD, TO SAY . HI CS NAME

'Z 3 W AS JASON 1 0THEN li ,E C UL]A: LEtl ,rO oE ,EVIS HOUSE BECAUSE HE,' CAN 'T SAY

,? 4 ]iYS MUG IN FRONT OF JOn iECIVi S ; u 3 'TE :FL :u` ,sim Arf~31'~TER, k~I) nz 1PHC imic .

a? .'S C7 . JU !LD I,A7ER . ON YOU SAID .74LiE .L.- IS. {rALLIN ) SorlIz"T'Huf(3 P, .

]2AT'7' ]: A LL E Mr COURT Ft ]~]POA .7 '13l~

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1 ; , 30

A . WHAT IS TFULT ?

3 (~ . WR WILL COME, TO IT .

4 WH3E;N MR . MILLER 7[ !3 P. T3P J E;EtR .IN(3 ONE PAGE ;l !5 'I'C) WE C :luv j 3 j1 jj17GE

IT, YOU UN 'Tl EMS T C' MC)I) T' F1[IM :L VENU E OTHER PEOPLE :[ ;NV 'CfLI TED ] C ]5 T `f[ DS ,

r11DIN"T YOU?

A. WFUU DO YOU 12.0' JW F.Al t ;AS (Y. C i K ER. PEOPLE JINVO:WED?

G. OAR"Filr lEt 'I'F[ A] N YOU -AND MR . MILLENt?

9 A. 2Ni tc) :L 'VF ,r) ;[ :N pLjrr of, THE w ri QiF' F' In HAD P ULl C.rTE D"

12 - zH :EL 1 mum 'r O u WERE WORKING, Oli . .

.L 1 A. 3N01 , NOBODY ELSE WAS INVOLVED x. K,czp7° I'C Imm: lfE

.l 2 SOMEPLACE,, AND THAT WA S XT .

1 :3 q . 14oW' , 1 vP !um BCa". C cyM' t)1! pPLCAIR 15 , ]d i p YOU SEE 1WHEEM YOU SAID,

]'. it n"Y{O[7r KNOW WHY I . REALLY WIF[' TO 2 I E1KE THE TUESDAY 'TF][3:N1 3r ," YOU

1 .5 IM:E F:F .]KE RA,]:13G HERE TO DOING THE S+ QNf I! ])6A L ON 1'1J13SDAT?

A,. 3' WAS lt7EEE'FJU:NG 770 DOING' 4'1 il BOND ,ANA) THE F; IN GIM 'TH'INGS

T [i]ES DA3C , A8'R'131t I MID C'C1lCE SAC.1K FROM 5AM?iNNZ1i, N1I][I2:H HJU) BEEN

1 ~I DI ,] A 'V EIVEL][ 1.4 G THE BOUT TO :a .AV M!iAH : ,

19 C . ArfI) YOU TOLD M . KILLER 'I`H 'Po' YOUR Ci 0 N1C.1M N V iNS o m 7ClF

20 AMS,"TaEI I Ii fCi CaMES 1 4. RC'r' fL *z 010 THEY D0 EC ]!T 'D C1; Y C M7! ' 1M MIZ ,, r 'N[ OUT C)1!

21

;2 2 A . 'PH 'AL7' 1119 WITH THE BOND ITKING .

~t .3 Q. THE MIND THING , ARD 7 11'i ;E P . ]: Was 1'1i:GI.i+G 7 '

>.-4 A. MOT THE Fi.];Ni ; THING SI O MUCH, BUT THS BOND THING BECAUSE,

!5 SEE, THEY M'EW' M . ]: `1M I N T HEME WITH : M fTq xlZA", SCE,, ALL ME H AS

]?AT7']: ALUM, , COURT F«cl'?oR,']'jj23

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631

1 GOT 7P I) L iC) ;IS P]C]!rD C 1 ZT'.E' W"F[IC M Y NA M E ]CA S , 7'Fi 1E GM [ LC IC ;K13 'D UP WWI i

2 ]AIM, . I'N1 T :HIrfiC : C 1EJG ] : l? ;MY' l +T4M;E ~ (^.o'M sm, 17' P, T. ' ]M our A P' ]'i :rg R z .

3 17, BUT YOU UMME Z'EMLIN IGi MR . KILLER THAT YOU WERE CXYMI-VIUMBLE,

DOING, A MITIM ER , ON MLCkr IDal4Y , BUT YOU ARE ' WCIRRI ED MINI' 'M I]R NA M E

BRING, 1)1Ft0 PP]ED C art THE BOND THING 0N VIESUILY?

A .. 110, I '. NEVER DID STATE KpT 'E[7[]!IG PLB () iUT MONDAY . I '. F ' YOU IIN VE'.

READ 1 i : [S PHONE C{ ]; NV'E Ft,3 A T 'I; C)N , 117 WAS rME ON M lCIZJ l 2AY , AND

I' [ TES I]AL37 I 411A.3 PIju1]!+i nfC ; oN DOING THAT STUFF ''
.RAT Z6I1O RZ1f3 :RI1,71r loo

C, C}r4 :EN G BACK UP HER]? TUESDAY 11IG'.1,[7 :' AND 1M Li1,ING 7'ji ]E C i E ' ',C 'H z

1 CI S 'I'LT l ? '; E . :[ W ILS' ; PULmJ mG. ()3 N LIft: C VT NG FROM HERE So SUMAIMMUl

11 'Tt IM :3 1D AY MORNING oft 'P'us I);4' Y PI]?'PEA .b fi)cy N .

12 'TM]
: S CALL WMS SUNDAY . ISN'T IT?

13 A . YT ' COULD BEEN 1 UVE BEEN, BUT 7C1E Y 'CftJ :L C ~CW, , THERE HU,l 3

;i 4 ANCI7'!i]ER CALL MONDAY ., SCI , I F.UU] NC) 1 ? :GA v ,i 'PO I)() AN frP 1fiINfG o N

:L 'S ZdiMAX .

:L 15 S~ . ]KIT YOUR, 7T"ST T D [f?]!TY ]: :3 Y CV ARE 7C]E LL I; ZT( ; M R: .. 1MII,um I . "L ;L Do

3.17 A ]MURDER r[c)] !TDA ,71 ', :BC]71" :C EON 'r WANT '() 1D0 A '.PHE ;I ' T 'OF ' ;t 'L, 0(11) FOR

3 .11 A J30 N fi) U N 'Z' 7:L, TUESDAY ,, 0 THAT ? .L GET CAUGHT [rat vu : !r;HE sq? oF' i l

i. SP MM VO I Li\ 1J LI C)U ii R Ai l, illp.1 GUT, 01? TIME MAIN .?,?

Cl 151 .. N0, T'F,[2k'C r s ZTO'P wfuvL' 1~ ic Pls sjunto, 1 cI iumirmZ i mu Z

23, QUEST ION .

22 Q1 . NOW, ARE YOU T'RYTr rc x T V CR EPR 73 E'V7 :17 1ENC ;k; INIZ 'F[ THAT

23 sZ701KMM a Fr ?

24 .A . : NCi, :r W ipk~3 I O ~s JUST '1 R,7!'].11i3 710 TELL 19110,11 !DD Q[J:C 'P

25 ;P RESTIE1EtITf{. lME 100 U'Z` "[`IRIS 13 1']NTI THING A ND THIS ;C ;N G 7P] 3INfC„ AND

PAX71 A1,]' 3N' , CO U IR'.7' REPt Ift'ra,