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The Creative Music Recording Magazine

Jeff Tweedy
Wilco, The Loft, Producing, creating w/
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Spencer Tweedy
Playing drums with Mavis Staples & Tweedy
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Alan Sparhawk on Jeff’s Production

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Dave Cook
King Crimson, Amy Helm, Ravi Shankar

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Hello and
welcome to
Tape Op
#132!
10 Letters
14 Holly Herndon
20 Jeff Tweedy
32 Tom Schick
40 Spencer Tweedy

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44 Gear Reviews

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66 Larry’s End Rant
70 Behind the Gear with Avedis Kifedjian
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74 Mitch Dane
77 Dave Cook Extra special thanks to Zoran Orlic for providing more

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amazing photos from The Loft than we could possibly run.
80 Ryan Bingham

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Here’s one more of Jeff Tweedy and Nels Cline talking shop.
83 Bonus Gear Reviews Interview with Jeff starts on page 20.
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“How do we stay interested in
the art of recording?” It’s a question I was
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considering recently, and I feel fortunate that I remain


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excited about mixing songs, producing records, running


a studio, interviewing recordists, and editing this
magazine after twenty-plus years. But how do I keep a
positive outlook on something that has consumed a fair
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chunk of my life, and continues to take up so much of


my time? I believe my brain loves the
intersection of art, craft, and technology.
I love the problem solving. I love taking a song in its
raw form and making it into something bigger, more
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dramatic, and able to reach more listeners. I’m proud to


help inform and educate others through Tape Op, my
instructional videos with LinkedIn Learning, and the
occasional recording workshops I offer at my studio.
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I like staying busy.

But it’s the act of putting art and knowledge back into the world that keeps me going. I adore
that I can help others leave artifacts and albums behind for future generations to hear. I cherish
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every email Tape Op gets from an appreciative reader, and every person I’ve met that tells me they
love this magazine. It means a lot. I don’t take anyone’s enthusiasm for granted – I feel we have
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to earn it with every issue.


I’ll keep making records, and I’ll keep doing interviews. Thank you, everyone.
Larry Crane, Editor
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from a photo by Sammy Tweedy
Angelica Tavella, Boris Camaca, Zoran Orlic, Adam Kagan, Tom Fine,
Garrett Haines, Justin Mantooth, Scott McDowell, John Hong, Dana Gumbiner,
Don Gunn, Liam Judson, Brian Bender, Gus Berry, Ben Bernstein,
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That’s a great idea. I think With delight I just discovered John Baccigaluppi’s deep
several contributors have 2005 review [Tape Op #49] of the magic of the CMV563 and
offered to do this for us, but its various [mic] capsule options. I concur with his
with no results so far. astonishment at how great the BLUE capsules sound. In the
Please note that we’ve early 2000s I bought two BLUE B0 capsules, as adapted by
generally been running our them to retrofit onto older AKG 460 B/CK mics. I’ve had my
“Behind The Gear” AKGs since the early ‘80s with CK1 capsules, and I’ve
interviews as online-only recorded everything under the sun with them. But after I
and PDF bonus articles these experienced Neumanns, particularly an old U 47 I had on
I was totally blown away by Ian Brennan’s interview days, as we have far more content loan for several years, I wanted something warmer and
with Alvin Lucier [Tape Op #130]. I’ve listened to “I am to run than space in the magazine. Always check our online richer; less “perfect” and exacting. Then I found the B0
Sitting in a Room.” I too have been recording, re- content, even if you get the paper version delivered! -LC capsules and they have never come off since. I actually sold
recording, and listening to tracks over and over again for I know I’m the odd man out, but my late ‘70s [Neumann] U 87 to finance the second B0
hours on end. I start hearing things... [like] real beat I actually like the old style of paper and staple binding capsule, and, despite the supposed “limitations” of large
note subharmonic influences. Casual listeners hear the better than the newer look. I like to fold the pages over diaphragm condenser mics on all-around mic’ing, I find I
imagined tones and don’t realize it. Being a violin maker, along the seam, so I can hold it with one hand; it takes can use the B0/460s on anything. They sound deep and
I deal with air cavity and structure frequencies. If I don’t up less real estate on my desk or airplane tray. Not a big rich, as well as precise and accurate. I LOVE these capsules.
find the elusive sweet spot, the instrument will have deal. When it all comes down to it, I wouldn’t care if you Stereo piano or guitar recordings with them have been
what I call a “contrary tone.” I tune the air cavity to C# printed it on stone tablets; I’d read it, no matter what. spectacular. I got excited reading your
article and wanted to respond from my

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with the sound post in. The body tuning target is F, G, Chad Stocker <chad_strung@yahoo.com>
etc.; the body has several flexing modes. On a finished own experiences, a mere 14 years later. Tape Op is the
We have no plans to etch the mag in stone, but I’m also

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instrument, I am able to adjust only the air volume with greatest. I love everything about it, and I treasure
pretty sure we won’t be going back to the saddle stitch every issue.
sound post pressure – pushing the top and back apart –
binding. Sorry! -LC Jeff Westerman <Zephyrjw@roadrunner.com>
or letting the string tension draw the top and back closer
together, raising the air frequency. I’m spending way too There’s always something interesting to read in your Thanks! Please keep in mind that almost every review ever
much time chasing wolf-tones.* When do tones become mag. The issue [Tape Op #130] with Alvin Lucier and Chris published in Tape Op is available for free to anyone at
harsh and contrary; like they are either canceling each Carter was great! I enjoy all types of music, but tend

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<tapeop.com>. -LC
other out or creating a synergism? How do we deal with away from mainstream. So these interviews, and the
After reading the interview Larry Crane conducted about

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them? Some of us may want harsh and contrary. What recent Gary Numan and Ade Fenton interviews [#125],
SoundBetter [Tape Op #129], it sounded like an interesting
makes a sound, or music, sound better or worse? Can were nice to see.
way to increase the amount and/or diversity of work I do
one kind of music please everyone? Nick Toth <anickt55@gmail.com>
as an engineer. After giving them a try and attempting to
Joe Martin <viol1736@att.net>
I know exactly what you are talking about, and just like
tuning an instrument is frequently an exercise in
mathematical compromise, getting a violin to sound great,
Thank you so much for what you do, Tape Op. Your

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material is fantastic; literally inspiration on demand.
procure a “Premium” tier account, I’m pretty disappointed.
I don’t know how Larry’s experience has been with their
service, but it seems geared towards top-level music
I can’t tell you how much I’ve learned from Tape Op over business professionals, not your average Tape Op reader.
or a recording to represent your intentions, is also a the years. I’m writing because I heard the podcast for the This kind of “business plug” seems like it belongs in some
compromise. Always. And once you learn what wolf-tones*
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first time. It is amazing to hear these people in their own other glossy rag, not Tape Op. My main beef is the fact that
are, you’ll never stop hearing them everywhere. -LC words; better than the magazine. Someday these will they don’t offer anything better over someone who has
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*Wolf-Tone: A sustaining sympathetic artificial overtone have historical value. above-average networking skills. Free subscribers get a free
that amplifies and expands the frequencies of a played Al Lehman <haldaemon911@gmail.com> profile, and that’s pretty much it; i.e., zero contact with
musical note, and is produced when the original note anyone resembling a potential client. You throw up a
Oh, my; we hope so! Visit our podcasts online
matches the natural resonant frequency of the body of the limited (by design) profile, a single photo, some audio
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<tapeop.com>. -LC
musical instrument. -Wikipedia samples, and wait – for a random client to contact you
Thank you for another issue of Tape Op! I can’t tell you anonymously through the site. If anyone should decide to
Over the decades, at some time or another, I’ve
how thrilled I am when these appear in both my email try their “Premium” service, first off, you’re not
subscribed to all the recording magazines listed on your
and mailbox. I love the articles about people I’d never immediately charged for it, nor are you granted access to
subscription renewal pages. None of them were, or are, as
get to hear about elsewhere, and I love drooling over the the extra services. Users have to wait a few weeks for their
succinct and bullshit-free as Tape Op. Thank you for
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ads and seeing the possibilities. Thank you so much! request to be approved. If somehow you are special
putting out such a fine magazine.
Garry Grasinski <garrygray@aol.com> enough to be selected, you get to shell out $60 per month,
Mark Moran <firmgrey@gmail.com>
I wanted to say that I have kept all my Tape Op issues, or $650/year (on top of the 5% SoundBetter fee, plus a
Longtime reader, first-time commenter. In this age of
and I learn so much within each one. Thanks, and keep 3% transaction fee) – to have your profile appear higher in
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resurgent analog tape multitracking, it may be nice to


them coming. searches, while being granted access to their job board.
interview someone with an in-depth knowledge of how
Roger Thom <roger@openfiredesign.com> Only then are you allowed to bid on any client’s
tape works. My longtime friend, and Tape Op
jobs/projects. But wait, you can only bid up to ten times
advertiser, John French at JRF Magnetic Sciences Larry, I just renewed my free subscription. We’ve met
per month. As it stands, I wasn’t approved for Premium
would be a great guy to talk to. He’s probably at AES a few times – I think you’re a real mensch. I’m
status. Am I being a sore loser because I wasn’t picked for
seriously considering getting the Tape Op archive
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forgotten more about tape and the magnetic process


a pay-to-play account? I can afford it, and while I am
than most people could ever know. I’ve known John package. It sounds hyperbolic, but I’ve been reading
generally nobody, I am plenty qualified. The particular
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and [his wife] Cookie since the ‘90s, and his passion trade mags for over 35 years, and yours is far and
reason I was given for not being selected sounds dubious:
for magnetic tape is unwavering. I’m sure it would be above the best I’ve seen. I learn something (or five
“We add Premium members on a rolling basis, based on
very insightful to your readers, who may be opting to things) new and interesting every time I read Tape Op!
demand for particular specialties at the time.” All in all, it
record on analog for a good base of information. Keep up the good work!
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seems a waste of time and effort for most of us.


Dan Cleary <fogf1@hotmail.com> James McLean <mcleancreative@gmail.com>
Drew Rydberg <extracurricular.stuff@gmail.com>
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In regards to this being a “business plug,” you should
know that Tape Op has yet to even receive or run an ad for
SoundBetter. No one paid us off to do this. I’ve had a far
different experience at SoundBetter than yourself, and
that’s why I was interested in doing this interview with co-
founder Shachar Gilad. Initially I did have a free Basic
account, and during that time I waited patiently and
received a couple of small mix jobs from clients who
discovered my credits via SoundBetter. Premium accounts
were discussed in depth in our interview, and it was
explained why they do not automatically grant these
accounts to everyone that applies. Less than three percent
of Premium applicants get accepted. (Note also that Basic
accounts make up half the work being done via
SoundBetter.) When I asked for, and luckily received, a
Premium account it wasn’t an initial rush of jobs, to be
honest. I was able to bid on jobs on a first come, first serve
basis, though I’ve only ever been chosen for one or two of
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production work. Any of these clients could’ve also booked
me directly, but it seems this is work I’ve only received
because of SoundBetter’s exposure, so I see this as a good
outlet for four to five extra jobs per month. I suppose many
clients like the fact that their money is held by the site until

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handled on the site. Also, you mused that the site is geared

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towards “top-level music business professionals.” I don’t
consider myself a huge star in the production and mixing
world; just a guy running a medium-sized studio in a
secondary market with some specific credits, and I’m happy
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to get low key jobs via SoundBetter. I’d say to keep
promoting your services any way you have been before, but
to give Soundbetter.com a chance. I would also recommend
using your real name on their site so people can easily look
up your proper credits. And, if there’s a glut in the services
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clients into working with you to help you stand out. -LC
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On page 30 of issue #130 [in Chris Carter’s interview],


Peter Christopherson is misidentified as “Peter
Christopher.” Thanks for all you do.
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Thank you for catching that! I’m a long time Throbbing
Gristle fan, and I knew the spelling of the late Mr.
Christopherson’s name, but I somehow missed fixing it!
Damn! -LC
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Larry & John, I have not thanked you yet. Thank you!
Stuart Gilchrist <jsgilchristiii@gmail.com>
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How you would describe what you do?
I’m a computer musician.
What does that mean?
Well, that’s always what comes next. I am a composer,
and I’m a performer. My primary instrument is the
computer.
What were the formative experiences
in becoming the musician you are
today?
by Angelica Tavella Well, my introduction to musical performance was
photos by Boris Camaca through choirs, often in a liturgical setting – in
church, in this emotional ecstasy that one has in the
In March of 2018 I met Holly Herndon at a hotel on the religious singing experience. Another introduction
outskirts of Berlin, just two weeks before she was set to would be coming to Berlin as a teenager and
defend her Doctor of Musical Arts Music Composition hearing Eurodance in the supermarket; also the
dissertation from Stanford University, and one month before crazy, synthetic pop music that was popular here.
the release of her third album, PROTO, on 4AD Records. We It’s like a geographical point. Another one would be
had a fantastic conversation about the making of PROTO, her moving to Oakland, going to Mills [College], and
creative process, as well as what it’s like to collaborate starting to use a computer in a way that I had more
with artificial intelligence and a choral ensemble.

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What led you to Mills? on the semester they were teaching Max. That’s the John Chowning and CCRMA
I was already writing music. I went to some master only reason. It’s actually probably better that way, The Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics,
classes here [in Berlin]. I took some free because it’s visual. Actually, I was in the beta testing or CCRMA, was founded in 1975 at Stanford University by
improvisation with [vocalist] Lauren Newton. I was of Max for [Ableton] Live at the time, when I was first John Chowning and Leland Smith, along with research
trying to teach my way through some things. I had getting started. associates John Grey, James A. Moorer, and Loren Rush. This
downloaded SuperCollider [a real-time audio synthesis Around what years? was the culmination of over a decade of work by Chowning
programming language] and was trying to figure it I was at Mills from 2008 to 2010. This always happens and Smith that began in 1964 with help from Max Mathews
out without any community. That is hard to do if you to people when they first start to use Max: I was of Bell Telephone Laboratories. During this initial decade,
are coming at it blind, without any reference point. building this complicated, insane, disgusting patch they pioneered early experiments with music, acoustics, and
There was already a deep interest, and I was trying to that I’d never use again. But that’s part of doing it; early mainframe computer systems. The first computer music
figure things out myself. I figured that if I wanted to to learn how it works. I was building this stupid course was offered in 1966, and in 1969 they established a
take things to the next level technically, I needed to performance system that was super complicated. I summer workshop in computer generated music. In 1967 Dr.
retool. So, I decided to go to Mills. spent forever on it, and then the Max for [Ableton] Chowning began his work on frequency modulation (FM)
SuperCollider was the first music- Live beta came out and answered everything. All of a synthesis, which resulted in an AES paper on the technique
making software you interfaced with? sudden it was so much easier to do all the things I in 1973 and a patent in 1977. FM synthesis was licensed to
It was, and it wasn’t what I ended up using. I ended up wanted to do, because I could just put individual Max Yamaha in 1973, and they eventually introduced the FM-
using Max [Max/MSP/Jitter; a visual programming patches on individual audio tracks - things that were based DX7 synthesizer in 1983 – one of the best-selling
language for music]. It’s random. At Mills, one difficult to code if you were just starting with an synthesizers in history. The patent for FM synthesis was one
semester they would teach Max, and one semester empty Max patch. That was a massive self-own; but it of the most profitable patents held by Stanford, earning over

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they would teach SuperCollider. I happened to start was also good, because I had to learn how to do all $23 million before it expired in 1994. When CCRMA was first
that. Now I have the stability of this DAW [Ableton founded it was part of the Stanford Artificial Intelligence

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Live] but with the flexibility of all this weirdness I Laboratory (SAIL) in an off campus building in the hills of
want to do [Max For Live]. That then became a Palo Alto, CA. In 1979 SAIL moved to the main campus and
powerful performance tool. in 1986, CCRMA followed suit and moved into their current
I know those messy Max patches. When I location at The Knoll Building on the main Stanford Campus.
was in school, I was doing the same Over the decades, CCRMA has had a huge impact on how
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Then that something else came. I think a lot of people had completed studies there. In many ways, Holly Herndon’s
that moment. A lot of people who didn’t know what Max work with Spawn on PROTO is an almost full circle, back to
was bought Ableton Live, and they found out about the early promise of CCRMA and SAIL. -JB
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That’s cool that it introduced people on that level. So,
then I started writing Movement [her first album] So, when you got there, did you know
towards the end of Mills, and after Mills. Movement came the direction you were going to go?
out right when I started at Stanford [University]. I had I didn’t know. I was overwhelmed, in a sense. It’s a very
no expectation that anyone would care about it at all. weird program. I’m in the composition department.
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cool; then somebody wanted to put out. Then, “Oh, there’s a composition track, a musicology track, and
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you’re invited to play this festival.” That was exciting, an engineering track. CCRMA is mostly the
but also weird timing, because I’d just started at engineering track, but there are also composers there.
Stanford, so I was taking classes and trying to tour the A lot of the composition history at Stanford is a more
album at the same time. That was gnarly.
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Can you talk a little bit about your work oriented. One of the composers there is Brian
at Stanford’s CCRMA [Center for Ferneyhough, who’s famous for his contributions to
Computer Research in Music and the “new complexity” movement, which is all about
Acoustics, (pronounced “karma”)]? the most ridiculously complex scores you could
How would I describe Stanford? I was drawn to the imagine; to challenge players that are extremely
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history of it; John Chowning, and the whole legacy skilled and to push them to a next level of
there. Also, there’s just an attitude. Chris Chafe is the performance. It’s a very different tradition or interest
director there, and he’s my advisor. He has this than I’m coming from. Maybe at times it was an
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beautiful, super open-minded approach to awkward fit, but I always felt at home at CCRMA. Most
experimentation; wherever that might take you. of the people there are doing physical modeling,
There’s no real expectation of what will come out of trying to improve a compression algorithm, or
something. A lot of that comes from Chowning. You something like that. There’s an openness to the
have this example of someone who’s just messing community there. I like being around engineers and
around in the lab, and the next thing you know it’s
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one of the most valuable patents [FM synthesis -ed.] practice, even though that’s not my focus. Some of
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that the university has ever seen. That will embolden that is just so insane. Like Jules [LaPlace]’s classes –
a community to be like, “My experimentation is some of the physical modeling – is super advanced
valuable!” Experimenting without necessarily a goal math. It’s a nice community.
in mind is something that’s valued there, and I think Are you still working on your PhD?
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What’s your dissertation about? studio. It’s expensive to do that. There were a couple Yeah, for sure. Well this time, because she was in London,
Because it’s a Composition DMA [Doctor of Musical Arts], of background parts I wanted to record where I would I sent her the material and she did a pre-mix. A lot of
it’s a body of work which is PROTO, and [the set up some microphones. I can’t remember the that takes time, and she can do it on her own schedule.
performance pieces] “Deep Belief” and “Chain Opera,” microphones that I ended up using. There’s this place Then I went to London, and we went through the album
and then an analysis of that. It’s mostly writing about here called Echoschall. I would rent a nicer microphone together and tweaked each one, song by song. Of
AI [artificial intelligence], as well as the aesthetic when I would record soloists in my studio. course, Mat [Dryhurst] was part of that as well. We wrote
implications and subjects like that. What are you recording with in your and produced together. I don’t want to write him out of
Do you have separate phases for writing studio? What DAW do you use? this process. He’s also sitting in the room. Mat has an
and composing, and then taking Straight into Ableton Live, and I just record almost savant ear for timing. Some people have perfect
those ideas in to record, or is the with whatever preamp I’ve rented from Carsten pitch. He has perfect timing, in a way that’s almost
process fluid? [Lohmann of Echoschall], and then I have a Focusrite annoying sometimes. Sometimes I will like a swing on
That would be the smart way to do it. My methodology Clarett series sound card. something that he doesn’t, because his timing is too
is not always that perfect. I would write something, What about any go-to studios here that sensitive. Sometimes we will argue over swing!
like a simple score, and then we would have regular you record at? How does it work during production?
rehearsals once a week, or every other week. The There are a couple that I’ve used. One is called Sometimes we sit together towards the end of the process
members would perform them, and I would record LowSwing Tonstudio, in Prenzlauer Berg, and then when we’re tweaking things. The way the process usually
that. I’d then go back into the studio and work with it. there’s one called Blackbird Music Studio in Kreuzberg works is that I’ll start something and then we workshop
Then I’d iterate on that and change the score; or I’d that’s also pretty cool. Then I just discovered a new it together. There’s a lot of file sharing. We remix things
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changing it and remixing it into its final iteration. What attracts you to certain studios? perfect!” That’s not a great way to collaborate. I think
For the score, do you use traditional That studio just had a good vibe. It had good lighting, and the more comfortable I get with myself, the easier it is
notation for the ensemble to read? good acoustics within the live room. When I’m in the for me to let go of control. I’ve tried to be more like,
Yeah. Or sometimes I record a process and have them studio, it’s mostly about recording the live room with the “Nothing is holy.” They can mess with anything.
emulate a digital process. Then it, of course, becomes ensemble performing. I’m not really doing any Everything is a “Save As” anyways. That’s been a learning
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you work in like? London with Marta Salogni. She’s amazing. She just built That’s awesome. So, it’s not necessarily
We had a very unusual setup in our old place. We just her own studio in London. Before she was renting out a together?
moved a couple months ago. We used to live in studio in the Mute [Records] office. She’s a sick mixing We work better separately. We’ll come together for a
Kreuzberg [in Berlin], and we had a more industrial loft engineer. She usually works with bigger pop artists, but listening session and give each other feedback. But we
space with a large, open room where we could have
rehearsals. I had a little studio room, where I could
shut the door that was sound-treated and had a nice
she’s friends with a friend of mine, Lafawndah, and they
were working together on Lafawndah’s album [Ancestor
Boy]. She was playing me some of the tracks that she
(d don’t jam together. We’re not vibey like that. We’re more
neurotic and controlling of things. Whenever we try to
sit together, we’re fighting over the mouse.
speaker setup. I could do single recordings in there. We just released, and I was like, “Oh, this mix is amazing!” I’m curious about how the different roles
would also rent a recording studio to do a proper final She said, “You have to meet my friend, Marta.” Then we in the ensemble for PROTO works? What
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main room and then iterate on them in my studio. working with mixing engineers, because it’s like hearing the role of your human ensemble?
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Once we got it to a point where we were rehearsed, we your music in a new light. The process of writing clouds It is a group. Almost more like a sports team, and different
would take that to a recording studio. We’d further your judgment, at least my judgment’s totally skewed by players are on the field at different times. They all have
rehearse there and get real-time feedback and try it the end of it. [Marta] has this almost psych rock vibe to their own projects, and they’re all traveling constantly,
the way that she mixes digital instruments. She gives it writing music, and playing in a million different things. It
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staccato” or, “legato” or, “add a glissando to these this space and weight in a way that worked. All of the was a process of getting to know their voices and then
parts.” Just workshopping. ensemble music was recorded in a space with people, trying to write things that bring out certain features of
When you’re recording the vocal and you feel that liveness and atmosphere. When you their voices. It’s specific to them. On “Frontier,” the wailing
ensemble at your house, do you have a have digital instruments with that, it can often feel sound in the back is just so Stine [Janvin]. I actually wrote
particular way that you like to disconnected. How do you make all of these digital that line with a Granulator [sample-based granular
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capture that audio? Any certain instruments work together? Then you have this artificial synthesizer] and then asked Stine to sing that line. She
mic’ing techniques or mics that you intelligence [component] that has its own aesthetic and emulates it and makes it come to life. Or like “Frontier,”
like to use? lo-fi sound to it. How do you make those all sit in the dealing with Sacred Harp music. One of the ensemble
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It depends on what we’re recording. Usually I was just same environment? Marta was huge in that. Her drum members, Evelyn [Saylor], is in a Sacred Harp ensemble.
recording as a reference, but we ended up using some mixes are so epic. She taught everyone how to do that authentic delivery,
of that. I probably should have paid a bit more I wanted to ask you about the drum and how to go for the chest voice. It’s drawing on what
attention. I find the Sony PCM [handheld recorder] to sounds. different people brought to the table, as well as what they
be quite good at recording. The fidelity is good I feel like Marta made them sound so much better than try to draw out of it. We were trying to see Spawn as an
enough. I did a piece called “Body Sound” years ago they were! I feel like all of a sudden they were these ensemble member. A lot of people doing machine learning
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I was just holding it to his feet as he was dancing and where the drummer has this huge kit all around them. training on Bach and then writing new pieces in the style
recording his foot sounds. It’s actually really crisp and She’s a masterful drum mixing engineer. of Bach. We’re not interested in that. I find that not at all
clear. But there were a couple times that I rented Do you like being in the room during interesting. What we wanted to do was use sound as
microphones and set them up in our space for a couple the mixing process? Were you sitting material, kind of coming more from a musique concrète
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What are the training sessions like that
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happened to be at the performance at
Martin-Gropius-Bau.
Because the rendering time is so long, it’s difficult to
incorporate her into a live performance. It’s something
we’re struggling with right now. We want to tour with
her, but we’re trying to figure out this real-time system.
At that time we were like, “What part of this process is
performative?” It’s the creation of the data sets
themselves, because you have to perform them in order
to record them. We wanted to involve the audience in
that as a way to make the process less opaque, as well
as to explain what a training even is. If you just hear
somebody say, “Oh yeah, I’m training an AI,” it sounds
like a mysterious thing. It’s not. I’m creating audio files
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Can you break down who or what Spawn more of a microsound sample-by-sample approach. That’s interesting, and maybe beautiful at the same time.
is? Does Spawn use a pronoun? when things started to turn around. I think the first thing It was certainly beautiful.
I use she. Maybe it’s super narcissistic, but the first we got out of it that was the most interesting is what Thank you!
experiments I did with Spawn were modeled on my became “Birth,” where she’s kind of emulating my voice. Now that PROTO is out, what is the future
voice. The first things that Spawn did sounded like me, Jules made this GUI [graphical user interface] where for you and Spawn?
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Mat and I have been wanting to do some work with like, “Here’s a new track!” So, we listened to it, and we For her to be able to learn on the spot?
neural networks for a while. We got a grant from the were like, “Hallelujah! We finally have something I’m not going to say she will never, but our current
German government, actually in honor of Beethoven. interesting!” Of course, it ignited our interest again, capacity is not such that she will be able to learn on the
A celebration of his life and work. They gave maybe because we were starting to wane in on it. Then we spot. But I think that she will be able to perform on the
ten different composers little grants over three years
to work on different things. Something experimental
that you wouldn’t normally be able to fund from your
wanted to put everything through SampleRNN and see
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what else we could do. It was a long, laborious process,
and that was a watershed moment. When we started
spot in a way that is interactive with human performers
on the stage. That’s what we’re hoping for. It’s not
seamless yet, and we won’t present it until we’ve figured
current setup. We didn’t have a way to dive into this working on the voice model with the WORLD vocoder, it out. I don’t want to do some sort of fake AI bullshit
otherwise, so we were able to buy the hardware, and with Jlin’s “Godmother” track, that was another moment. on stage. We will start the tour without her. Whenever
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so that’s what we decided to do with it. It’s a three- I was interested in it as a subject. Also, I was interested artificial intelligence can have in the
year grant, and we’re in year two. in it as a philosophical, human subject of what AI musical sphere?
So, Jules is an integral part? Are you guys means for the history of humanity, the history of I think there are many things that will happen. I think
we’ll see a lot of automated writing. That’s inevitable.
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continuing to develop together? intelligence, and for our evolution as a species. A


He is, yeah. We call him an ensemble member. He is broader, philosophical question. That filters into the It’s a much cheaper way to generate genre-specific
amazing; also as a composer. Having somebody who has music that’s not even necessarily dealing with Spawn. music, but I don’t think that’s interesting.
a musical ear makes a big difference. Jules is a “Extreme Love” is a text written by Jenna Sutela, who What’s most interesting to you?
wonderful alien. also works with artificial intelligence. Spawn is not even What’s most interesting is seeing it as a different kind of
How did Spawn develop over the last two on that track, but it’s dealing with these kinds of intelligence, as well as trying to figure out what we can
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years? questions around intelligence and evolution. It was a learn from that intelligence. Allowing it to surprise us
Well, the first six months were just awful. It was like we broader theme that I was interested in dealing with, but with different options. With [the track] “Godmother” for
didn’t get anything out of it. We were working mostly also working with it in this DIY capacity. I was example, I didn’t teach Spawn how to beatbox at all.
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with TensorFlow [a symbolic math library, also used for interested in what sound world would come out of that. That would be embarrassing if I ever tried to beatbox,
machine learning applications], which is usually used for Whether or not I’m successful, I don’t know. I’m always but Spawn ended up beatboxing, which was hilarious,
style transfer of images, so we were applying that to trying to develop my own palette. Each album has its weird, and funny. Be open to what surprises you’re
spectrograms. It was even lower fidelity than what we own tool kit of whatever I’ve developed for that record. going to get back when you do something. Those kinds
have now. It was very scratchy, and it wasn’t that Hopefully it has its own sound world. That takes time to of moments are exciting and fun. It’s revealing
interesting. A lot of the voice work we were doing develop. It’s not like I want to just plug into whatever something of my voice that I’m training her on that,
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good six months of us training it on all different kinds of holistic approach. Let’s build the ship and sail the ship, tra i n i ng he r. T he fu nda me nt al d if f erenc e
things, and we kept getting awful results. Six months is but you have to build it first. Through building it, you’re (compositionally speaking, not performatively
a long time to not have anything. We were like, “This learning how to play it and what it can do. I think that’s speaking) between algorithmic music and something
sucks! Why are we doing this?” We switched it up and why it takes me so long to write, as well. I have a hard using a neural network is that with algorithmic music,
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decided to use SampleRNN, which is a different approach; time doing something that I feel like sounds like you set up the rules and you let it run, and that will
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with the neural network, the rule set can be derived from
another piece. It’s an alienated rule set, which is a
fundamental difference. Usually the composer has to set that
rule set, and now the composer can outsource the rule of
writing itself to the neural network by being able to analyze
an existing piece of music. I think that’s fundamentally
different, and it lends people to a lazy approach of just
trying to copy things that came before. But maybe there’s a
different way of applying that, that can reveal something
about how we compose that’s interesting. Instead of just
trying to copy, maybe we can use the way the AI sees that
rule set. Maybe that can reveal something about our impulse
as composers that’s interesting. I haven’t seen that yet, but
that’s something that could be interesting.
So, this is going to be an avenue you
continue to go down with Spawn’s
development, as well as to see what she
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and then I put it in the computer, wait a day, and get the
sounds back. It gets exciting when you can improvise with
the process and have immediate feedback.
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I’ve been in studios and rooms all over the world. I’ve seen where The
My partner in Tape Op, John Baccigaluppi, noted that Jeff’s memoir, Let’s
Beatles spent hours creating masterpieces. I’ve been in the room
Go (So We Can Get Back): A Memoir of Recording and Discording with
where Buddy Holly’s hits were made. I’ve stood at the mics that Al
Wilco, Etc., and a solo album, Warm, were being released, and he asked if we
Green used on many hits. I’ve been in several rooms that David Bowie
should have Spencer Tweedy, Jeff’s son, conduct an interview with his dad.
spun his magic in. Many of these places have something special going
Spencer has been in touch with Tape Op for years, letting us know about
on – maybe those creative vibes soaked into the walls – but almost all
his wonderful boutique mic cable company, Fjord Audio [Tape Op #126], as
of them require the musicians to cart their instruments and gear in, as
well as suggesting some book ideas for us.
well as to spend some time sorting out and setting up. And, by virtue
So, I asked Spencer to do an interview, but Spencer and Jeff asked if I
of the usual studio layout, many professional studios leave the
would come visit and do one in person. I’m very glad I did. I spent time
musicians and engineers in isolation from each other, especially
interviewing Jeff and engineer Tom Schick [see his interview this issue]
during overdub sessions. In contrast is The Loft, a third-floor
over the course of two days, and I was able to hang out with the rest of
warehouse practice space turned studio, where Wilco and Jeff
Wilco, even enjoying a lunch with them. The band was hard at work on an
Tweedy have created a musician’s dream. Racks of drums and other
upcoming album; it was an honor to hang with them, as well as Tom,
instruments fill the space, with the control room area (not “room”)
studio manager-and-more Mark Greenberg, and the enthusiastic
taking up the front part of the building. There’s even a kitchen/dining
and talented Spencer.
area, a tech bench for repairs, and various little hideaway spots
On the flight into Chicago, I ran into my friend Jonathan Pines, who had
scattered all around the 5000 square foot room.
helped former Wilco member Jay Bennett [#41] turn The Loft into a studio
nearly 20 years ago for use on Mermaid Avenue Vol. II, a collaboration
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you had a place here for rehearsals in here, right? What was the
and storing your gear. During the timeline on all that?
Mermaid Avenue sessions, he set up a Oh, it’s blurry. From that point on, part of almost
space to start working. everything we’ve worked on has been up here. We had
Yeah. Maybe we looked at it this way, because Mermaid upgraded to tape from ADATs by the time Yankee was

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sort of legitimate. The first Mermaid Avenue had been the ADATs to 2-inch reels, and went down there. We
pretty successful. I think the general thought was that didn’t get much out of that. Then I basically started
it would be money well spent for us to have a place working with Jim O’Rourke [Tape Op #16], just the two
to record ourselves. We did what we could with what
we had financially. At that time, it was ADATs.
I saw a photo yesterday. Recording to
of us, at Soma [Electronic Music Studios], John
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Richard Swift [#120] had, that I ended up buying and
VHS tape! then selling to him. We used that machine to go to Pro
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was excited about that. We did get a tape machine Nobody even knows where all the different pieces are.
at some point. I basically bankrolled it with money It’s famously documented in the film
that was coming in from my contracts. I never had as well [I Am Trying to Break Your
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much interest in putting it together. I wanted to Heart: A Film About Wilco]. There
have it be put together in a way that we could work. was a lot of creativity being thrown
A couple of other engineers in town probably at this album.
weighed in too. It was wired and set up in a way that The part of it that’s not in the movie at all actually is the
prohibited almost anyone else from using it. part where we were at Soma, where we basically
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Ridiculously complex. Even the order you were ripped everything back down to the skeleton and
supposed to turn it on. I always thought that was started reconfiguring it. I think by that time,
like “job security.” Jay wanted to be the guy who was [director] Sam Jones had run out of money for his
engineering when we were up here. Nobody else film. He had to prioritize, and he wanted to wrap it up
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could really work with it. But that became the plan in some other fashion, so he didn’t film any of it.
going forward, which was not to spend so much Right. You mention a bit of that in
money going to other people’s places, but to your book, about how skewed it
basically use whatever advances we were getting to comes off. I never saw the movie until
upgrade what we were able to use, and then have two weeks ago.
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Jonathan was like, “We had to build when there were arguments. I was
gobos, put all the cables in, and do all like, “I don’t know if I want to see
of this.” It was like, “Here’s a room.” this. I go through that all day.”
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“I live this every day!” In your book you skipped through the Yeah! But, in a way, I felt like that was a blanket
Yeah! As soon as that camera’s rolling, Mermaid Avenue sessions. I’d heard affirmation. You’re allowed to do so for this. I remember
you know you’re being documented. that those sessions were rough for how easy the actual writing and recording felt. It is
It’s not a fly on the wall, like you said Wilco, in certain ways. still, to this day, one of the things that I find the
in your book. I think we were probably more hardheaded and arrogant. I easiest of any task; to take existing lyrics and put them
Right. I feel like one of the most famous scenes, if you can think we were much more than Billy thought he was to music. I love that process. A few years ago, I was
call it that, is the argument between Jay and I in the getting into. In hindsight, to be fair, we looked at being considered to be a part of that Dylan project
studio. I don’t think it would have gone on nearly as ourselves as being a lot more than a backing band for [Lost On The River: The New Basement Tapes]. I’d been
long if the cameras weren’t there. But, that being said, him. Whether we deserved to have that sense of self or sent 12 or 14 sets of lyrics from that project. I wrote
that was also pretty typical of the types of arguments not, we did. Jay was very, very assertive about wanting and recorded a whole record over the weekend with
that were happening at the time. For some reason, a lot to mix. He was a huge Billy Bragg fan. He wanted to mix that; I can’t help it.
of the time I wasn’t that disturbed by the cameras. I Billy Bragg’s material because it was a dream of his. I Spencer Tweedy: That’s not an exaggeration.
don’t know if it looks like it in the movie, but I got used think, like a lot of people who are involved in recording, [To Spencer] Were you playing on it?
to, “Oh, they’re just there.” They were doing a pretty they can like something but still think they could have ST: Yes.
good job of keeping out of the way. I guess because the done a better job mixing it. Any opportunity I get to do that, I’m excited.
alternative to me was the experience we had had with Oh, I know what you mean! Is it also because half the equation has
Mermaid Avenue, when Billy Bragg brought in a camera It’s human nature. You can’t help it. There was some of already been solved? I know you tend
crew. He had funded the documentary himself. I guess that going on. Honestly, I felt like I was on the to generally write lyrics further down
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with some of the overall practices versus the politics of
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arguments with him again for the camera! awesome, aren’t they? Dylan, to some extent – it’s almost like doing a
Hmm… crossword puzzle. With Woody Guthrie, in particular, he
Yeah. I’m super proud of the material, for sure.
Like if we’d gotten into a dispute about something, he’d You also mentioned in the book that you never wrote an original melody intentionally. He was
be like, “Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second. Can we were going through a time where you like, “If I ever wrote a melody that was original, I didn’t
get a camera in here?” were trying to get rid of the mean to.” You can hear other songs in all of his lyrics.

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Getting the meter and melody. That’s an interesting revelation. You’re I don’t mind getting lost in the details sometimes. I think
It was like, “Okay, that’s already there.” So, let’s use currently working on another Wilco that can be fun. But still, [I want to be] once removed
chord substitutions; let’s not make it exactly like that record, I assume. from the actual physical, tactile sensation of
[other song]. Yeah, correct. controlling it somehow. It also forces me to use
With production in Wilco, how has that Mark Greenberg told me that the sessions language to explain to Tom what I want to hear. Like,
flowed over the years? You’re the were quick and efficient. “I wish I could hear more of the fingers on this
voice. You’re generally at the center Yeah. Well, on one hand it has to. Everybody’s so active instrument.” It allows me to stay a little bit more in an
of all the songwriting. How do and so busy outside of the band, it’s difficult to carve “imagination world,” as opposed to real-life physics.
you make sure there’s room for out a whole lot of time for us all to be in the same The other thing I’ve worked hard to try and avoid is
everything else to be around you, place. We’ve been hitting it pretty hard, and it’s been using other peoples’ records as references. When you
while also seeing what people can going very well. go, “Oh, more like a Fleetwood Mac thing.” It’s hard
bring to the table? That’s awesome. You’ve worked with a lot sometimes. Especially in a band like Wilco. We all have
Well, since Sky Blue Sky – the lineup of the band that of engineers over the years in so many references that we share a language like that.
formed after A Ghost Is Born – it’s a miraculous group different places. Currently, Tom We all know what it means when you say, “A Byrds-ish
of musical lifers who are all pretty tuned into the needs Schick is here at The Loft. 12-string.” But when you force yourself to not do that
of a song. I guess I’m the overseer of a vision for the I don’t remember ever working with any engineers other and say, “I want it to sound more despondent,” then
record, or the overall sonic landscape. Which songs to than Tom. you have to think about it. You have to go, “Well, how
do and how to put it all together. But everybody’s Perfect answer. do I play more despondent?” Instead of saying, “Big
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can play them with an acoustic guitar, generally. telepathy part, but the general speed of how we work doing. It’s the one thing I’m confident they weren’t
Right. It’s there. together. The understanding or working at the same doing. Howlin’ Wolf was not saying, “Make it sound like
It’s a song. Everybody’s up for the challenge, all the time. It pace. Thinking at the same pace. Paying attention at somebody else’s record.” It was this miraculous thing
can get a little bit frustrating, but I guess the point that the same pace. You’ve got to find your guy. I feel like that he could [get to] hear what he sounded like.
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everybody wants to get in there and be a part of it. to be distracting. I feel like my role is to keep an eye like something else.
Everybody throws ideas at it, but generally everyone’s on the song; the big picture and the emotional With productions you’ve done in the
pretty open and accepting to being cleared out if it content. Not what the bass EQ is doing. Your last handful of years, you did a lot
necessitates that. There’s not a lot of insecurity. To me,
egos are fine. It’s insecurity that’s the problem. Insecurity you look, too. People don’t realize that.
creates an ego that is needy, and that’s a problem in any To their detriment, with Pro Tools.
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been a blast.
Totally. She’s incredible to get to hang around.
dynamic. Everybody’s comfortable laying out, because Yeah. Don’t put it in front of you! That’s an amazing run of records [You
they’re not thinking, “Oh, if I don’t get X amount of licks I’m always amazed when I hit the Are Not Alone, One True Vine, If All I
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to play!” They don’t look at it like there’s a lot to prove. the computer screen. “No, listen to about in the first place?
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They’ll be on stage with you. It’ll be okay. the monitors! Listen to the audio!” I always refer to it as an arranged marriage. I think we were
We’ll all be on stage. Yeah. They’re thinking about something else. I like not both being fed a bill of goods. Her manager was telling
I saw your solo tour, listened to Warm, having that sensation where I’m drawn too deep inside her that I wanted to meet her, and maybe try and work
and then to the Tweedy album with her. My manager was telling me, “Mavis wants to
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[Sukierae] that you and Spencer Right. The details. meet you, and maybe wants to work with you.” I was
made. How do you determine where a
song’s going to end up? How do you
decided whether it’s going to be a solo
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having faith in the process. Maybe it would be smart to
set aside certain songs for certain projects. But I don’t
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most excited about working on. When that’s all
finished, that’s a record. Whether everybody in Wilco’s
here; or it’s Spencer and me. Over time, if you keep
working, the other thing that happens is that songs
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familiar with Mavis; I don’t think she was familiar with Yeah. I think it keeps her young. I think she feels like it’s It’s all rough mixes, too. We had mixed the whole record at
me. They basically set up a date for us to hang out and what she does. Ocean Way [Recording]. When I was at the mastering
have lunch on the South Side. Initially, I thought I was She’s been doing it her whole life. studio with Bob Ludwig [Tape Op #105], we’d mastered
getting together with her to suggest some material for a Literally. I guess since she was 12 years old. the whole record from the original, finished mixes. I’d
record and potentially write a song for her. After that first That must feel pretty amazing to work on booked two days, because it’s a double record. I came
meeting, I invited her up to The Loft. I played her a something that’s got so much to do back the next day and said, “I don’t like this record as
bunch of old gospel 78s and songs like that I thought with the history of music. much as when I used to listen to it on my cassettes.” Bob
she could really make her own. They happened to be a It’s a crazy, unlikely turn of events for a person from where said, “Well, let me hear the mixes you like.” He helped me
lot of songs that Pops [Staples, her father and leader of I’m from. To have had these types of connections with pick all of the mixes from cassettes and DATs.
The Staple Singers] used to play. We had a great time and Woody Guthrie and with Mavis Staples. That makes me That’s awesome.
it felt like we were on the same wavelength. That feel like I’m an unwitting bridge between some ST: He’s so nice.
seamlessly rolled into working on a record. different eras of music making. He agreed with me. He said, “These feel better. They’re not
Did you record that album [You Are Not It could be at the point where someone better sonically. They feel better.” That was a big moment
Alone] here? who’s a Wilco fan starts listening to Bob for me, affirmation-wise, to have him supportive of that
Yes. I’d seen her play with her current band. On this first Dylan and The Band because of you. decision. We’d spent a fair amount of money on those
record, I loved the idea of getting them in the studio. It’s possible! Which is how most people found Woody other mixes!
They hadn’t been in the studio with her. They were raw, Guthrie. Not from us! There’s no way you were getting out of
compared to a lot of artists from her era. As they get From Dylan! Ocean Way for cheap.
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the next record [One True Vine], we had done some Wouldn’t you think so? anything else we ever did, probably.
promotional [events] together, with acoustic guitar andYeah. It took on its own life. It’s crazy. On Right. Don’t take this the wrong way, in
the two of us singing. She wanted to make a record like the other side of this, you produced a any sense, but that record always
that. The next record started like that, and then Spencer record for Low a while back that I love. pushed me away sonically. I’d always
started coming by after school and putting drums on. [The Invisible Way] think, “Why do I keep going to Being
Mavis loved it, and she loved the idea of there being aI love that record. They came in wanting to do an acoustic There or the records that followed?”

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a family band, with The Staple Well, it’s always the producer’s fault. ST: It’s cold.
Singers. Wow. Yeah. They’re so good now. I don’t really know. I feel like the material on that record has
That ended up being the way that record was put There’s always been a flexibility with continued to be something that people want to hear
together. Then we got to do the Pops album [Don’t Lose
This], because she felt good about how things had gone
working here.
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any way they choose.
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when we play live. So not very many of the songs have
disappeared from our consciousness, which is more
It’s this intense, musical thing that happens when they important to me.
That was taking unfinished studio sing together. I don’t know. They’re up there in my Yeah, as long as the songs stick around.
sessions, and then building songs? opinion; nobody else sounds like them. American Yeah. People get excited when we start playing one. I love
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tracks, it was unbelievable some of the tracks [they’d] records of theirs where you think they have lost act for so long – that people are perhaps more familiar
put around these guitars. There were some mixes we anything because the production sounds too much with the live version of any one of those songs.
heard initially that didn’t even have Pops’ guitar in like the ‘90s, or something. You mentioned the rocking drums on
the mix. We stripped everything down to his vocal Do you feel like there was ever a time Wilco (The Album). It’s easier to do
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and guitar on as many tracks as we could, and we where some of your work got tainted something very gentle and fragile in
played with him like he was in the studio with us. It by production or recording styles? the studio. Then if you end up with a
was amazing. One of the nice things about having so I think Wilco’s Summerteeth is probably the closest to whole album of that it’s like, “How am I
much tremolo on his guitar is that it creates almost having some sensation like that. I definitely have going to tour this?”
a little click track. things I wish I had done differently on some records. Well, yeah. That’s exactly what I’m getting at. I think with
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It’s a rhythm. You hear that on his The overall drum sound on Wilco (The Album) I feel is Wilco (The Album), there was way more attention paid to
distinctive playing, in the single muscular and uncharacteristic. It was weird that that that than I’ve ever done before or since. We wanted more
note parts. was the decision being made at the time, but I think material.
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It’s pretty loose, but it feels good. Then the last record [If we were playing so much. I think we had gotten used To rock out?
All I Was Was Black], I had an idea that I pitched to to the sound of [being] pummeled [by] live drums. It Yeah. That was “big” enough to play in front of these crowd
Mavis about making a record where she comments a was hard to hear them any other way in the studio. I sizes we were playing to. It is a real challenge. We’ve gotten
little bit more on what’s happening now. She was into don’t really understand it. But Summerteeth definitely over it. We have enough material. One of the ways we got
the idea. We talked about some different topics we has some of the earmarks of us transitioning from over it was with Star Wars and Schmilco; we stood behind
wanted to cover. I wrote all of the songs in a couple of analog to digital recording. it more. When we toured Star Wars, we played the whole
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all done fast, because she works so much. It was hard you want to hear anything else, you’ll have to wait around
to get much time out of her. right? for at least a half an hour!” I think that made a difference
It’s amazing to meet someone who’s JT: Yeah. with how the material was received. We believed in it more.
substantially older than you are and is That’s much more spacious and open We didn’t do the same thing with Schmilco, but we
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It’s one of the worst things that ever happened to me; [it took] four long days. We
had to stop every time a siren went by. This isn’t a soundproof studio. It was so
demoralizing, because I’m not a precise speaker, for one. I slur a lot, and my lower-
Midwestern tongue gets tripped up a lot, even by words I know. I figured out I can
write at an eighth-grade level, but I can only read out loud at a fourth-grade level. It
took forever. There was a day where I couldn’t say Wilco. I couldn’t get the “L” out.
There are people who direct audiobooks. The guy we worked with, Scott Sherratt, was
great. It was fortunate. He does a lot of books, especially music books. He did the
Beastie Boys’ audiobook. He did a great job. It makes a huge difference – in terms of
peoples’ interest in the audiobook – to hear me read my own words. I think it was a
no-brainer that I had to do that. I got offered to read a chapter from [Michael
Azerrad’s] Our Band Could Be Your Life. I hadn’t read my own book yet – I hadn’t learned
what a fucking disaster it is to be doing that. A couple of weeks after I finished reading
mine, I felt light as a feather, “This is behind me now.” Then that book came up. It
was the Minutemen chapter. It was the worst kind of reading I could possibly do,
because half of the chapter is dialogue between D. Boon and Mike Watt. I had to come
up with different voices! Nels can talk like Watt. When I read the Minutemen chapter,
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of not having any hits is that there’re hardly any songs that we have to play! The
disadvantages are fairly obvious. We do requests off of our website. Almost every night,
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weird, because you get criticized if you don’t change the set every night.
And you can find that setlist online.
Not because people are tired of seeing you play it every night, but because people are
tired of reading the setlists in their homes. It’s like, “They’re not changing it up too
much.” You haven’t been to any of the shows! But then if we change it, and we’re not
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It’s true of anything. If you want to be a poet, read poetry! That’s the key thing to do.
If you want to write lyrics and want to be a poet, you should read everything. That’s
like one of the only professions where I feel like you should be a philosopher and a
theologian. That’s all the thought in the world that you’re drawing upon. But music,
yeah. As an autodidact; as a person who’s spent much of his whole life much more
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capable of learning in a self-directed way, it’s miraculous that all of this exists to listen
to. Every year, as I get a little bit better at my instrument – or a little better at
understanding how records are put together – I can hear deeper into records and revisit
records that I feel like I’ve taken a lot of inspiration from. Every Friday I listen to almost
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every record that comes out. You can do that now! I don’t have to go buy them all. I
have streaming services. When in history could you do that? It’s incredible.
You used to have to go down to the record store, and the clerk
would say, “You don’t want to hear Madonna.”
Yeah. Even modern country records. It’s like, “What is this all about?” Probably the single
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for other peoples’ work. Even work you don’t like. I go back and listen to so much that
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I didn’t [used to] like all the time. I have this underlying belief that if anyone took the
time and effort to do this, and they put so much passion and so much of themselves
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appreciate it. I get frustrated [with myself] when I think, “Why? What is this shit?”
Like is it your mental block?
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I try to ease up on my opinions as I get older. I used to really shoot my mouth off.
Yeah, exactly. Well, it’s a hard lesson to learn for somebody who’s so obsessed with music their whole life. It’s
not the same thing for everybody. There’s a lot of art – a lot of music, movies, and whatever – that’s not
made for you. I still feel compelled to find some way into it, for some reason.
Low at The Loft Do you still buy a lot of records?
Yeah. I’ve slowed down a bit over the past few years.
The Invisible Way, Low’s tenth album, was produced by Jeff ST: You used to get a huge box every week.
Tweedy and engineered by Tom Schick at The Loft in 2012. We I used to order online from distributors and get all the new ones, mostly from indie labels. I’m doing a little
dropped Low’s Alan Sparhawk [Tape Op #31] a line, asking what the less of that. Partially because it seems like they’re running out of things to release. They keep re-releasing
sessions were like for him and the band (which also includes Mimi these archival albums in different configurations.
Parker and Steve Garrington). What do you think of remastering and re-releasing records, like ten or twenty years
after they’ve come out. Have you been involved in much of that with Wilco?
“It’s a big, comfortable space with little private corners here We did a couple with A.M. and Being There. I guess there might be some Summerteeth in the works. The one
and there to make your own. I’m not sure if it was a conscious people keep asking for is Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, but I’m not super excited about it. For one, we could remaster
discussion to make things that way, but the subtle, unexpected it, I suppose, but we could not remix it.
surprise about The Loft is that they have their space figured out – Like you mentioned.
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space being a deluge of guitars and gear, Jeff knew which two Plus, the weird thing is that that record continues to sell; probably better than almost any of our other records,
guitars to try and which amps would be best. We tried to bend their including our new records. Why put out another record to compete with it?
system, believe me, but time and time again they knew what would It’s always terrifying that any remastering supplants the original, to some
work and make for the purest musical experience. While Jeff degree.
facilitates, and gently hints at ideas and possibilities, Tom is Yeah. If Wilco didn’t feel as much like an ongoing effort – and something that feels like we’re excited about

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comprehending the whole picture – often the songs would be the music we’re making today – maybe it would be more appealing to me to be involved in projects like
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interview and photo by Larry Crane
Formerly chief engineer at Sear Sound moron kid to clean the bathroom. It’s filthy!” I’d do it, What was your learning growth like
[Tape Op #41], Tom Schick proved his skills in
the studio with artists like Paul McCartney,
Bob Dylan, Sean Lennon, and Rufus
running the tape machines and taking notes. I would
show up early, and Walter would be there vacuuming
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but at the same time I was in on every single session, there, and when did you start
engineering as a first engineer?
He put me in the studio right away. My first day there, I
Wainwright. As a freelance engineer in New and busting his ass. He’d be staying there even after I was there until about ten o’clock at night. There was a
York City, he worked on projects for M. Ward, was leaving. By the end of the summer Roberta saw house engineer doing a session, so it was “watch and
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Iron & Wine. Now, as the house engineer at to me. But it took me a whole summer to win her over. running the 1/2-inch machine and documenting it.
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The Loft in Chicago, he runs multitudes of She was a pretty good read of someone who would be Were they mixing down?
sessions for Jeff Tweedy [see Jeff’s interview a good worker, whereas Walter would hire whoever No, it was a live to 2-track jazz session. I’m like, “This is
this issue], including Jeff’s band Wilco, as well walked in the door. He’d like one thing on their amazing!” Walter’s thing at the studio was that
as the various artists Jeff produces, like Low, resume. Walter hired me because I’d worked for my
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Mavis Staples, and Richard Thompson. brother who had a commercial cleaning business. I There were two other guys who worked there as
mentioned that, and that they did record records the engineers. Fred Kevorkian ended up building a
Did you go to school at Berklee College way that I liked. But he saw the cleaning aspect of it, mastering room in the back of Sear Sound, so he wasn’t
of Music? and was like, “I want to hire him!” doing as much in the main room. The other guy went
Yeah. I got an internship at Sear Sound the summer of my That must have been a really intense freelance. Then it was just me and Fred, and the studio
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last year at Berklee. [The late] Walter Sear hired me. You learning ground. was booked nonstop. By default, the first record I
knew Walter, and Roberta [Findlay], right? Oh, yeah. Aside from hooking up with Jeff Tweedy and engineered there was for Sean Lennon. He booked the
Steve Masucci [Tape Op #124] took me over Wilco, getting that internship at Sear Sound was the studio based on the reputation and wanted to use the
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there once, and we sat with them for best thing that’s ever happened to me, career-wise or house engineer. By default, that was me.
hours while they were chain smoking music-wise. He was an amazing person to work for and Was that his album on Grand Royal
and telling stories. to listen to. Such a great mentor. Records?
They’re amazing people. Walter hired me, and Roberta was So, did you go back to school, finish up, Yeah, Into the Sun. It’s a great album, and it was really fun.
pissed that he hired me. They needed an intern because and then come work for him? Sean walked in, and the way he liked to work was to
they would get a beach house every summer, so they Yeah. I went back to school, came back on winter break, record a song, mix it, and then record the next song and
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going back to school before they were done with their I wanted to drop out. “This is what I want to do.” Honda was producing it. The first day of the session, we
vacation, so Roberta was pissed. She’s like, “He’s But Walter insisted, “No, you’re going to finish were recording a song and working really fast. We got a
useless!” For the whole summer, she would refer to me school, and we’ll see if there’s a place for you.” He take, and then Sean and Yuka both had overdub ideas.
as, “That fucking moron kid.” I’d be standing about five really valued an education. Walter and Roberta We were working on tape; they both ran out and wanted
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Tom & Yeah. He wants to walk in and do what he does. I feel like
it’s an engineer’s job to capture sound and not get in
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the way; Not always worry about getting the perfect
The Loft sound. It’s more about being ready to record when the
musician’s ready to record, and deal with the rest later.
Right. You’re known for working fast,
too. People say, “He can get sessions
going fast.”
Yeah, sometimes a little too fast. I’ll solo the kick drum and
it’s like, “Man, that sounds weird.” I’ll go out into the
room and find the kick drum mic was on the floor. I try
to get going and worry about the sound later. It’s part
of what’s great about working here. We have it set up so
that there’re a lot of mics out in the room, and they’re
all plugged in all the time. If a full band wants to play,
I’m ready to do it. If anybody has an idea, I can get a
microphone in front of them in less than a minute.
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new tracks, – I thought I’d disarmed everything – they needed a Pro Tools rig. He said, “They can rent your and Walter would fight with each other. But he was such
punched in right on the bridge, and I heard the drum rig.” I set it up, and it would not work. All these a great engineer. He would send me setups and tell me
sound totally change. I looked, and I saw the overheads computer guys came, and nobody could figure it out. I to put up whatever I wanted.
were still in “record ready.” I went through the whole had a friend who had a system, and we were swapping Mic-wise?
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control room. I thought, “Oh, this is it. My first dollars later I spent trying to get it to work! It turns out if they worked. All these weird microphones. I’m like,
engineering session, and I’m fired.” I told Sean and that Apple happened to make a run of computers that “Oh, this is really going to fuck with him.” He’s in the
Yuka, “I’m really sorry. I fucked up. I’m sorry.” They said, were incompatible with Pro Tools, but they didn’t know. control room getting sounds, and the band’s playing.
“Well, let’s hear it.” I played it; it got to the bridge, and What did Walter say? I walk into the control room, and it sounds amazing!
the drum sound got really tight and then it opened back
up. They said, “Oh, my god; that’s great! We love it!” I
was like, “Phew. Okay.”
“I told you!”
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it’s all about balance and the relationship between
the instruments. He was actually one of the first guys
You might never have had the craziness About five or six years. It would have been ‘94 to around I assisted with at Sear Sound, because none of the
to go punch in and erase drums, but 2000. In 2001 Walter finally told me, “You’re ready to go other guys wanted to work with him. He was surly
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Oh, yeah! No Pro Tools. Walter was a holdout for that. It What were some pivotal sessions for you ready to do another song. They’d be struggling with
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was tape. I feel like a lot of great records were made there? it, and he’d get on the talkback and say, “Uh, maybe
like that. Accidents would happen, and you’d work I got to do a Bob Dylan session at Sear. I was told it would we should try something that you guys know.” But
around the limitations. be five to ten musicians, Bob doesn’t want to wear they all knew he had a reputation.
Sear Sound must have been such a great headphones, and don’t talk to him. That was the only What other kinds of music did you
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place to learn. Walter could be information I had. I set up a bunch of microphones in work on?
really ridiculous with some of his the live room. As the band started showing up, I’d put All kinds of sessions. Little Jimmy Scott would come in. I
statements though. a microphone in front of them. It was a touring band at got to be a tape op for a Paul McCartney session where
Yeah. Sometimes I feel like some of it was for show. “You the time, and Al Kooper [Tape Op #73] playing organ. It he was with Elvis Presley’s backing band. Tricky was
only use equalization if you’ve made a mistake. That’s was a song for a TV movie soundtrack. Then Dylan shows there for a couple of days. I got to be a tape op on it.
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why it’s called corrective EQ.” He started to come around up, walks right into the live room, and grabbed a He had a guy who was more of a sequencer engineering
a little bit towards the end. Pro Tools was allowed in the microphone I had up as a room mic. I think it was an it, but the way that he would work was so amazing. He’d
studio. It was actually my fault that he got Pro Tools. I’d RCA 77, and he started running through the song. Then have this guy get a sound for him. He’d be like, “Get a
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been there for four or five years. He kept saying, “I don’t he said, “Let’s record one.” I got on the talkback and drum sound.” He had a keyboard that was triggering
want Pro Tools. It sounds like shit.” Eventually I said, said, “I recorded that, if you want to hear it.” He was different things. Then he’d say, “Okay, roll the tape.” He
“Walter, I really feel like I’m falling behind. This is totally nice to me after that. He’s like, “That’s great!” It would play it live onto the tape; then he’d get a
something that I need to know.” Then eventually, I said, was a nice, painless session. A really good experience. different sound, ready a new track, and keep adding
“I’m thinking about buying a rig.” He’s like, how much Plus, you did the right thing. You tracks like that. It sounded incredible.
do you have saved up? He wrote me a check for $10,000 recorded early. Keeping it organic, in a way.
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into the studio. And he said, “Now it’s your problem.” you’ve got for the vocals?” I said, “I think so!” He’s like, work on those. There was a project I got to assist on
Well, that’s brilliant. “Okay, good.” That was the vocal mic that he used. that was Thurston Moore, Steve Shelley, Ron Asheton
I put the whole thing together. I got it up and going. You know, when you look at his career, you from the Stooges, and Mike Watt playing bass.
Walter had just finished the new studio, and an artist – can definitely see that he has a The Wylde Ratttz? [For the Velvet
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Yeah, The Wylde Ratttz! I didn’t know it at the time, but Watt At that point in the time he was probably getting a lot of
had borrowed Kim Gordon’s bass. He broke a string on a records where he’d listen to the drums and get them to
session, and he’s like, “Oh, fuck!” So, he puts a new string sound good. But everything was in the room together,
on it. Walter always used to put out lox, bagels, and cream and the bleed was part of it.
cheese. I’m in the control room changing the tape reel; I Do you deal with a lot of that here in The
looked out in the live room, and I see Mike Watt rubbing Loft? It’s an open-concept studio.
a piece of smoked salmon on the bass strings. Then he There’s not a whole lot of isolation.
holds it up in the air, looks around, doesn’t see anybody, I don’t worry about it. Make it sound good. Jeff [Tweedy]
and he doesn’t know what to do with the fish, so he eats will do a lot of live vocals, or replace them. If it’s a really
it, and then he plays! I went out and I’m like, “Wow, what loud band with an acoustic guitar, that can be a little
was that?” He said, “I hate new strings.” I wonder what tricky. But if we get the right performance, it doesn’t
Kim thought when she got her bass back! matter. Jeff and Spencer [Tweedy] do these amazing
What happened after Sear Sound? When we recordings right in this control room area. Jeff will be
talked years ago, you were working at on the couch, and Spencer will set up the drums right
The Magic Shop [Tape Op #66]. where you are.
Yeah, I was freelance at Magic Shop because that was a There’s not a lot of room here!
good studio and they had a good rate. I really loved that They’ll use a little kit. Those recordings are some of the
studio. After I did the record with Sean, that led to work coolest. There’s no delay in the bleed. When we get bleed
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Adams was producing. That led to a bunch of work with the room wasn’t big, but it was dead, so I could do any
Ryan. Then I met Norah Jones when she played on a Ryan kind of recording with people in the room together. The
record. Then she introduced me to Matt Ward [M. Ward]. bleed was always really pleasant and musical.
I got one lucky break, and it led to other things. How did you end up meeting Jeff and the
The funny thing is that you also Wilco crew?
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most. before he was in Wilco, so I knew Pat that way. I had a
Yeah. I think a lot of it goes back to Sear Sound. Being manager at the time, and the engineer that Jeff had
mentored by Walter carries some weight. Having a job hired to do the first Mavis [Staples] record [You Are Not
there, people are like, “Okay, he knows what records are Alone] here, he was managing him. That engineer bailed

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supposed to sound like.” Getting that led to everything. out; he had to cancel right before the session. It was last
minute, so my ex-manager recommended me to Jeff. Jeff
looked at my discography and said, “Okay; I don’t have
together. a choice!” I flew in. I was actually in Montreal doing a
Oh, which is fun. I got to engineer a lot of those at Sear session with Phil Ramone [Tape Op #50] at the time, so
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would try to pretend that everything was a live to 2- recording the Mavis record that day. We did it start to
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track. finish in this room, when it had a Sony board. We mixed


It’s got to sound good from the get-go. it here too. I think it was the first project that was done
Yeah, exactly. What we do here a lot is every time we do an from start to finish at The Loft, and it won a Grammy [for
overdub or work on a song, we do a new rough mix. Every Best Americana Album]. It’s like, “Okay, this is good!
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time, it’s a rough mix. Because we have unlimited Let’s keep going.”
recording space with Pro Tools, we can do that every That’s a nice start. We talked about your
time. On a lot of records there are a few rough mixes on expediency in the studio and being able
it. We’ll capture something that happens in the moment, to deal with bleed. Do you think that
and it’s hard to get back to. helped you to be in the right headspace
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Sometimes you can overthink a proper mix to work with Jeff in a space like this?
later, after the song is “finished.” This space is like my dream studio. It’s how I’d build a
The key for me, for mixing and engineering, is not to think studio, if I could build a studio and it already existed. I
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too much. When it starts to feel good, then I print it. I hated having to open a door to go adjust a microphone.
can’t remember what record it was I worked on, but while The typical studio.
I was still on staff at Sear Sound this album got sent to That’s great for isolation, but it’s nice to make a record
Bob Clearmountain [Tape Op #129] to mix. I got a phone where everybody’s involved all the time, even if
call from Bob. He said, “I brought the track up and did somebody’s in the kitchen having a snack. They’re still
my usual process, where I’d bring up each instrument and listening to the music.
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get it to where it sounded good. I did it three times, but You were doing acoustic slide overdubs
yesterday when I was supposed to be
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I could not get it to sound good. It wasn’t making any


sense to me.” I was like, “Uh-oh. I’m sorry.” But then he leaving, but we were all in the kitchen
said, “Then I brought all the faders up at once, and it whispering to each other. Do you ever
made total sense. Great job.” have to go around the corner and say,
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Every once in a while, but it’s part of the record. There Sear Sound And you get to look at Rich Kelly &
used to be a canning company upstairs. Luckily their The microphone collection was insane. Every time somebody Friendship while you listen. [There’s
business was slow, but every time they’d get an order would bring in a new microphone, a microphone would get an amazing array of photos between
in, the whole building would shake. There were some fixed, or he’d buy a new microphone; he would have me line the speakers at The Loft. -ed.]
records where we’d have that on it, or the freight them up in front of the piano. Probably about eight Yeah, and Bob Newhart and Don Rickles.
elevator starts going. The only time it ever became an microphones, all close together, and about maybe eight feet I think all that shows up in Jeff’s book
issue, where it slowed us down, was when Jeff was away from the piano. Roberta would play classical music, and [Let’s Go (So We Can Get Back)], doesn’t
doing his audiobook. I would plug them in and put them in front of the piano. We’d it?
He told me that yesterday! So early on you have one new mic, and then seven of Walter’s mics on the Yeah. The Bob Newhart one was signed at some point, but
kept having to fly out from New York board. He would come in, listen, and then mute and unmute. it faded out.
and work. Was it crazy to make a home
base change based on work?
He would recognize every microphone. He’d say, “U 67 number Phase
one. 67 number three. 47.” Even with the ribbon mics. It really I have these Cricket boxes [Galaxy Audio’s CPTS Cricket
It seemed pretty natural, because I spent a few years blew me away – he really listened. He would go out there, and Polarity Tester]. I use them all the time. I did a string
going back and forth. After a couple of years, it felt like he had a great voice. He’d say, “I’m going to go talk into each session in Nashville, and they used them. It checks the
home as much as New York. I love New York, and I miss one, and you can listen to them and see.” He’d be out there phase of all the microphones. I’ve always said when I die,
New York. I lived there for 20 years. with a cigarette, chain smoking. That was one the few days put a phase switch in my coffin so I can play with it on my
It’s a very different energy. when there were down days. Or we’d go to the Neve, take out way to hell! It’s nice to be able to start from a base where
Somebody said to me once that New York is a place where the modules, and clean them. There was always something to you know all the mics and lines are good. These boxes
all of your amenities are stripped away and are sold back be done. didn’t exist when I started; or if they did, we didn’t have

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to you as luxuries. I was like, “That makes sense.”
How long ago did you move from New York year. Jeff will remember songs he did three or four years them. I had to use my ears. Whenever I mix outside
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to here?
Almost five years. We were in Brooklyn, and I was coming recording, and he’ll be like, “Can you find that one? I phase on all the drum mics is right. It can be tricky,
think it might really work.” It’ll still be on the drive. But depending on how far away the mic’ing is.
here basically two weeks out of every month. My wife
and I were like, “Let’s move to Chicago.” We’re both it is a challenge keeping up with that. I’m still
With the amount of work you have, day to
from Cleveland, originally. I like it here. developing a system.
day, are you saying “No” to a lot of people
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the band’s on tour or hiatus. Last year was in place and there was a Sony
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there wasn’t any Wilco activity, I believe? going to do a little more touring this year, so maybe it’ll
Well, that was probably my busiest year here, because Jeff Yeah, it was a Sony, but it was based off of the MCI. The be a little bit easier to schedule. I have a manager who’s
worked on about 100 songs. When Wilco takes time off, [Neve] BCM10 wasn’t here for the first Mavis record, but
great with that. I feel like it gets to the point where
Jeff doesn’t. He’s busting his ass all the time. Whenever the racks of API [preamps] were. I’ve always loved the
sometimes people are like, “Oh, Tom’s just working with
he can, he’s in here. He’ll come in and get an idea down, APIs for drums. The [Studer] tape machine was here.
every day. It’s such an incredible work ethic. I’ll do other Has there been equipment you really They write you off?
projects when Jeff or Wilco goes on tour; but when wanted that you leaned towards
bringing in? Is any of the gear
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Yeah, after saying, “No,” so many times. But when it does


they’re not on tour, we’re here every day. line up and people come here, they’re blown away.
That seems unusual to me, but I think it actually yours?
Is there a vetting process? Like you don’t
You know, the main mic we use on Jeff’s acoustic guitar is
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Oh, yeah. He’s still growing as a songwriter and a musician. mine. It’s a Neumann CMV-563 with the M7 lollipop
Oh, yeah. It’s a personal space. It’s like Jeff’s home. We’re
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He’s always striving to get better. He never coasts. capsule. Jeff loved it, and then he got one that we use
really careful with that, and who can come in here.
Do you feel that work ethic rubs off on on the drum kit now, in front of the drums. Jeff’s
Everybody who comes in here is sensitive to that. This is
everyone around? collected microphones. He got a [Neumann U] 47; that
his home, and these are his instruments. We get great
Oh, yeah. It’s infectious and exciting. It’s a great energy to wasn’t here when I got here. I bought a couple of Coles
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people who are respectful; it’s all friends. I’m at the point
be around. I’m really lucky to get to work on great music [4038], and he’s got some Coles of his own too. Jeff and
of my career where if I’m not really into something, I
every day. I have the same aesthetic, so when he finds something,
don’t have to do it. Luckily that doesn’t happen very
Jeff’s solo record Warm came out a little it’s like, “That’s great!”
often. I have a pretty wide palette of what I like! r
while ago. The other thing that’s crazy about this
I don’t think it’s been announced yet, but he also has place is the extensive amount of <tomschick.com>
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Warmer – a whole other record [out on Record Store Day instruments, amplifiers, and such.
2019]. Warm were the songs that fit together. It’s not That’s the thing with bands. When I do other bands here,
like songs were left off because they weren’t as good. It I tell them not to bring anything. A lot of times they’ll
bring something, like a security blanket. But it’s
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was more about those songs that went together, so that


they were the record. I feel like with Jeff, there are very incredible for a band to have access to this many
few B-sides. There are just extra tracks. instruments. A band can walk in, and they can be
Does it take a little bit to make sure you tracking within a half an hour of taking their coats off.
have everything backed up, and It’s nice to have a home base where I don’t have to go
cataloged as well, to go back and find into a studio and do the whole set up, and then test all
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songs and ideas when he’s that prolific? the lines and everything. One thing I really like about
this studio is the Pro Tools screen is not in between the
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Oh, my god; yeah. We’re working on a two terabyte drive.


Every year I go through, and I’ll make a folder of what’s speakers. I like having it not be a “visual” thing. I use
finished and released. That goes into a backup system, my eyes over there, and my ears over here. It helps me Tape Op is made
“Finished and Released,” that Spencer set up separate things. I don’t sit there doing edits in front of possible by our
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brand vintage drums. [Studio manager] Mark

Spencer Tweedy Greenberg finds a lot of cheap vintage kits at thrift


stores and online. If you like playing a little softer,
and don’t mind fragile shells, those can be just as
interview and photo by Larry Crane good as a pristine brand name kit. So, the crazy drums
Being that Spencer graciously helped I was too young to remember if I gravitated to drums by at The Loft are more of a bonus than a necessity.
Tape Op set up our interview with his myself. My mom [Sue Miller] used to run a bar in What was the inspiration to do Fjord
dad, Jeff Tweedy, and that he sat Chicago called Lounge Ax and she had a drum set in Audio and the cotton-covered XLR
patiently as I asked so many questions, we the basement – it’s the same kit that I have at home cables? [Tape Op #126]
thought it’d be fun to talk to him about now. I’ve used it since Lounge Ax closed in 2000 – a I love product design and had been wanting to make
growing up immersed in music, Wilco, 1960s blue Rogers kit – and my parents (or members something physical. I was also deep into building
Tweedy, and The Loft, as well as starting of bands playing at the bar) would sit me down on my own mobile studio, so it seemed like a nice
his own company. the kit for fun. I started playing a little more opportunity to combine my interests into one
devotedly when I was six or seven. I would wake up thing. The idea for cotton-covered cables
Did you ever not want to play music at seven a.m. (not out of discipline, but just because specifically came from a concept console I wanted
because “that’s what Dad does”? that’s normal for little kids) and play for hours in the to build, and it seemed like they could be a
I think because my dad made such a point to include basement. I don’t feel like I’ve ever worked as hard as gateway to building bigger and more complicated
Sammy and me in Wilco touring, recording, and that since then, for better or worse. items in the future. I was also really encouraged to
everything he does, it didn’t feel like a separate You mentioned to me that you’ve never start the company by Kevin Faul after I reached out

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thing that he had “conquered” already; it felt like owned a drum kit, since Jeff has lots to his company, Conway Electric, about supplying
something that he does, and that we’re lucky to get of instruments. Do you feel spoiled the cables’ cotton braiding.

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to do too. I get anxious about making music that’s for choice of all the classic drums you Have you sold many of these cables? Who
original or interesting enough, but that has more have access to? are notable users?
to do with creative exploration than getting away I feel completely spoiled by the instruments that my dad I’ve sold about 400 of them so far. Josh Scott, of JHS
from my dad’s records. A certain amount of overlap has at The Loft. I’m lucky he likes drums! But I will Pedals, is probably our most vocal advocate!
is inevitable, and it actually makes me happy when say, even though we have a bunch of incredible kits Does design and marketing of items

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it crops up. there, it really doesn’t take much to make a kit that appeal to you as another outlet,
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Jeff, Spencer, and Mavis
I’m in love with design, and I only like marketing The Tweedy album, Sukierae, is super We started the project because it’s really inefficient to
insofar as it’s an outlet for design. My idea of
design is really broad. To me, anything you do
that requires problem solving or thinking
fun. Do you ever get frustrated
playing music with Jeff?
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store all of our sessions on standalone external hard
drives. Those are expensive; they take up a lot of
I very rarely get frustrated playing with my dad. This space on the shelves, and they fail pretty often. So,
through a lot of alternatives can be called might sound like false modesty, but most of the cases we’ve been building a server that’s similar to what
design. And that includes music. I don’t mean to where things are tense on stage or in the studio, it’s you’d have in a data center, except it’s just for local
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that should be meticulously chiseled. But I do force of nature making me feel like everything’s more and figuring out the best workflow for new
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think that design thinking can inform the way serious than it is. We very rarely disagree about sessions. But it seems like a good way to go for
you arrange music or write songs, e.g. “This musical choices. studios who have lots of sessions to store (look up
should go here,” or, “This makes sense with this.” What other sessions have you played 45Drives Storinators). You have to do it in tandem
That can also include intuition and chance. The drums on? with other backup methods, like LTO [Linear Tape-
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most exciting projects to me are the ones that I’ve played drums on records by my friends Henry True, Open] tape or Backblaze B2.
incorporate unconscious feeling with super Daisies (Hugh Ferguson), and Liam Kazar. Upcoming You and designer Lawrence Azerrad
conscious tinkering. are records by Eryn Allen Kane, Joan Shelley, Amos [Who designed this issue’s cover. -JB]
How did it feel to end up playing drums Pitsch and Julia Blair (of Tenement and Dusk), and my have worked on projects together.
on Mavis Staples’ You Are Not Alone? band, The Blisters. We also just did a session at The What have those been?
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It felt like I squeaked through the door! My dad and Loft with Norah Jones. I’ve worked with Lawrence from afar on
Mavis had set out to make an album of mostly How often do you hang at The Loft? It the Sukierae album art and other Wilco-related
acoustic duets, but when he started building the seems like Jeff will put you to work on things. But we’re actually just starting our first
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tracks they sounded like they needed drums. I was sessions if you do! outright project together, which is a book about
nearby, so it was spontaneous. On one hand I felt I spend a lot of time there. At some points I’ve been self-recording musicians. r
like I had already been recording for a long time, there every day. Lately, only every once in a while. <spencertweedy.com> <fjordaudio.com>
since it was something I did at home and with My dad and the rest of Wilco do a good job making
friends. But on the other hand, it was my first time my brother Sammy and me feel like we’re welcome
working on a “real” record, and with Mavis on top there any time.
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grateful my dad asked me to do it, and that Mavis mentioned that you’ve helped build
liked the results, because it pretty much led to all The Loft’s digital archives. What does
the other records that my dad and I have been able that entail?
to make together.
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I also found that a pad was needed on both the AT5040 and
the AT5047. While I could probably have gotten away Neumann
without one on the C100, I did use its built-in -10 dB pad. NDH 20 headphones
For the AT5040, I almost always use an inline pad (Shure Neumann made its bones on the microphone side of the
A15AS) because it provides switchable amounts of padding, audio business. From its 1928 founding by Georg
and I find that on some consoles the preamp pad affects the Neumann, through its 1991 acquisition by the Sennheiser
tone of the mic pre more than the inline pad does. For this family-owned company, Neumann was synonymous with
session I used the same model pad on both the AT5040 and state-of-the-art German condenser microphones. A few
the AT5047, set to -20 dB. Initially, I found that the AT5040 years back, Sennheiser also acquired the German
and AT5047s sounded remarkably alike, except that the off- professional monitor company Klein+Hummel and moved
axis sound on the AT5047 was darker in tone than the it under the Neumann umbrella. Thus, Neumann became a
AT5040. One of the things I like about the AT5040 is that top-tier professional speaker manufacturer. And now the
the off-axis coloration never bothers me. That is, I never feel company has entered the headphone market.
like the room sound plays much of a part in the sound I hear The Neumann NDH 20 is a closed-back dynamic (i.e.
in the mic. The AT5047 has a bit more apparent room sound, actual coned speakers inside) design, with some parts and
Audio-Technica which some will find more natural sounding, and while tooling borrowed from the Sennheiser HD 630 line. On
AT5047 cardioid microphone others may find a bit distracting. The room bleed into either first glance, they look quite similar to the HD 630, with
In 2012 Audio-Technica released the AT5040 [Tape Op of the Audio-Technica mics was several dB quieter than the shiny aluminum ear cups and a sturdy metal-covered-
#95] microphone, which was a special mic in several ways. bleed into the C100, mostly due to the AT’s very narrow with-rubber headband, plus the multi-hinged pivot
The hand-built mic uses four 2-micron rectangular capsules, cardioid pickup. system to assure a comfortable and semi-tight fit.

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positioned next to each other in a 2x2 array to effectively The tone of the AT mics remained consistent on all three Neumann says the NDH 20s use different drivers and are
create a capsule with the surface area twice that of a typical horns, and, overall, I found that the AT5040 sounded voiced differently; I didn’t have an opportunity to

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large diaphragm condenser. This design combines the best natural and open, with a lot of body in the lows, natural compare with their Sennheiser cousin, so I can’t
of large and small diaphragm properties and provides clarity in the mids and highs, and no harshness in the highs. comment on sound quality differences.
excellent high frequency detail, quick transient response, Switching to the AT5047, I felt that I could hear a slight bit Let me cut to the chase and state upfront that these
and extremely low self-noise. The AT5040 uses a of transformer saturation, or compression. Mainly the mid headphones sound good! They convey midrange and
transformerless output stage and delivers an extremely high and high frequencies seemed a bit more present when deep bass especially well, without a harsh sheen in the
output level for a studio microphone. Regardless of the compared to the AT5040. For a traditional or acoustic upper midrange that is common in many closed-back

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instrument I’m recording, I almost always have to use a -20 approach, the AT5040 is natural and realistic sounding while headphones. The treble is also comfortable and realistic.
dB pad on my AT5040. The AT5040 is a world-class for a pop or smooth jazz type approach, the AT5047 would Stereo location cues are pretty good, but these

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microphone in every way, including its super cool AT8480 provide a bit more presence and bite. Additionally, the low headphones seem more center-focused than some
shock mount, which looks like a mechanical, magnetic hand end on the AT5047 is slightly tighter and more focused than others. The human voice sounded particularly alive and
that provides excellent security and vibration isolation. The on the AT5040 while the AT5047 low end feels warmer, present, both male and female. Because the upper
AT5040 is a fixed cardioid microphone with a focused sweet
spot and excellent off-axis rejection of sound. I love the
AT5040 on horns, especially saxophone, and find it excellent
on many singers and voiceover artists. The AT5040 has an
almost like a ribbon with obvious sub frequencies.
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I can’t say that I have an overall preference between the
AT5047 and the AT5040. My feeling is that the AT5040
sounds slightly more accurate but sometimes produces too
midrange and low treble isn’t exaggerated, and there’s
plenty of audible low end, they might be described as
somewhat dark sounding.
As for fit and feel, they sat comfortably and firmly on my
extremely high output, and sometimes the proximity effect much proximity effect and may not play well with every melon. The ear cups were more than big enough to
can be a bit overwhelming, requiring repositioning of the preamp. The AT5047 feels a bit more polished, and I can surround my ears, and the velour-type outer covering of the
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mic or performer a few extra inches from the mic. hear the transformer saturation and slight high end lift. For ear pads did not generate a sticky sweat-film after hours of
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to the AT5040. Both share the same cylindrical, front address slight advantage over the AT5040, but every other day of recording, mixing, or listening.
body and cardioid pattern, but the AT5047 has an all-silver application would be a tossup in my opinion. I also find I read somewhere on the interwebs that their voicing is
finish, while the AT5040 sports a two-tone silver and dark that the AT5040 picks up occasional sub frequencies that supposedly based on the Sennheiser HD 650 [Tape Op #43],
grey body. The AT5047 employs the same four capsule,
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must be high-pass filtered, while the AT5047 seems to have a long-running favorite in the headphone listening world.
electret condenser array from the AT5040, but this time the solved that with superior internal shock mounting. The HD 650 is also a favorite of mine, so I spent a lot of
microphone uses a transformer-balanced output that Since the AT5047 (and AT5040) have such a focused time with both them and the Neumanns plugged into my
performs some artistic and technical functions. On the cardioid pickup pattern, I would hesitate to use the mics on various headphone amps while switching back and forth
artistic side, the transformer will saturate a bit and soften musicians who tend to move around, but usually a word of (the Sennheisers have a higher impedance; 300 ohms
transients while thickening some of the lo mid harmonics. On instruction to a performer can solve that problem. I love the verses 150 ohms for the Neumanns, so some volume-
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the technical side, the 150 ohm transformer balanced output AT5040 and AT5047 on electric guitar amps, brass control adjustments were necessary when switching
allows the AT5047 to maintain a consistent character, no instruments, voiceover, and some singers. I have also used between the two). I would say that both models convey
matter what mic preamp it is plugged into. Small circuit the AT5040 as a mono drum room mic with stunning results the midrange accuracy about the same, but the Sennheisers
changes from the AT5040 provide the AT5047 with the and would expect the AT5047 to sound just as good. I are lighter in the bass and a little brighter in the upper
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highest dynamic range (142 dB) of any microphone from wouldn’t say the AT5047 would be my single desert island mid/treble area. The Sennheisers are open-back, so the
Audio-Technica, with an SPL capability of an ear-shattering mic, but I love my AT5040 and use it constantly, along with feeling of "air and space" is different. With the Neumanns,
148 dB. The noise level of the AT5047 is incredibly low at 6 many other classic studio mics. I felt like I was in a deadened control room, able to focus
dB SPL and is slightly less sensitive than the AT5040 with 3 I have long been a user of the AT40 Series mics, including on my production workflow, and only that. That’s the goal
or 4 dB lower level output on most sources. the AT4050 [#33], AT4033, and AT4047 [#20]. Now with the of closed-back professional headphones: shut out the
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In the studio I recently recorded a three-piece horn 50 Series, Audio-Technica has brought their microphone background, focus on the sound between the cups.
section, featuring trumpet, trombone, and sax. Here I set up design to the next level. These new mics are quickly At $500, the NDH 20s aren’t cheap. But they are well-
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one AT5040, one AT5047, and one Sony C100. I tried each becoming studio classics and easily hold their place in the built, including touches like a twist-lock where the cable
mic on each instrument, through a John Hardy M1 mic most well-stocked of mic lockers. Visit Audio-Technica’s web connects to the right ear cup. They are packaged with a
preamp. The John Hardy uses a Jensen input transformer, site for more information about the AT5047 and their other coiled cable and a straight cable, and a screw-on 1/4-inch
and I would consider it a clean and solid sounding preamp fine microphones. ($3499 MSRP; audio-technica.com) plug (the cables terminate in 1/8-inch plugs). They also
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– much like an API without the coloration and saturation. -Adam Kagan <mixer.ninja> come with a "silk" carry bag.
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I still think the $1500 Focal Clear Professionals [#125]
I reviewed in an earlier issue are the best-sounding Cloud Microphones Steinberg
headphones I’ve ever worn, but these Neumanns are 44-A ribbon mic AXR4 Thunderbolt 2 interface
pretty darn close. They tell the truth about the overall In the recording industry, there is a long list of iconic Steinberg is on an impressive roll with sexy hardware
sound quality and stereophony, which is important for microphones that every experienced recording engineer has interfaces, collaborating with Yamaha and Rupert Neve to
recording and mixing. I’m not sure I’d do fine-tune at least heard of. The RCA 44-A, is one of these. Built in the deliver products that lean into the strengths of all three.
mastering with them alone, but I’d sure listen to what I 1930s, and known for its smooth sound and beautiful The AXR4 is clearly meant to be a flagship in their
was doing through the Neumanns because they’d tell if I appearance, the RCA 44-A is an absolute classic. Cloud hardware line, and it’s absolutely something to be proud
was taking a frequency area or part of a mix too far afield. Microphones looks to build on that classic with the about. Boasting 28 inputs and 24 outputs over a
Many recordings I love were made with Neumann mics, “something old, something new” approach. The Cloud 44-A Thunderbolt 2 connection, with sampling rates up to 384
and I got a kick out of listening to them through is a long ribbon design that is supposed to follow the exact kHz and capable of 32-bit conversion with SSPLL ultra-low
Neumann’s first foray into headphones. The NDH 20s exude specs of the RCA 44-A with modern materials. The Cloud’s jitter reduction (sub-sampling phase locked loop), they’ve
classy design, durable construction and demonstrate a body resembles the styling of the RCA’s, but it is more slender really pulled out all the stops! To be fair, 16 of those
history of knowing what reality sounds like – a worthy and light for a mic this size. One of the major differences inputs and outputs are over ADAT or AES/EBU, which I
addition to the Neumann tradition. from many ribbon mics is that the Cloud 44-A is an active didn’t test, so I’m not going to focus on them. As
(en-de.neumann.com; $499 street) design that utilizes their own “Cloudlifter” technology. This purchased with no expansion, this is effectively a four mic
-Tom Fine <tom.fine@gmail.com> gives a major clean boost in output that greatly improves pre input, eight line input, and eight line output interface

Boz Digital Labs performance, then leaves your ribbon mic eating phantom
power for breakfast. Preamps with even a modest amount of
– I really like that the eight line inputs are separate from
the four mic inputs. I also really appreciate that there are
The Wall gain should drive this mic just fine. For ribbons and some two Thunderbolt jacks, so you can easily daisy chain gear,
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dynamic mic applications, I use and love both the Cloudlifter like multiple AXR4s (supports up to three units)! I put
plug-in within five minutes of trying it. In addition to Zi [Tape Op #123] and the Crimson Audio Mogain [#110] together a stellar racked mobile rig with the AXR4 and a

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being a nice limiter for general use, The Wall is superb for preamp booster. Having this technology built right into the 500 Series chassis that included eight channels of Classic
adding last minute level to reference mixes. I found that microphone is a welcome design. The Cloud 44-A’s 20 Hz to Audio Products, Inc. VP28s [Tape Op #95]. This allowed me
it does a better job respecting the original mix EQ profile 20 kHz frequency response is also expanded from the original to record twelve separate mics to individual channels in
than a majority of competing options, and the limited RCA 44-A. The Cloud has two toggle-switched settings: my DAW for some mobile sessions (I’m starting to call late
control set makes it easy to get good sounds. There are Music for full range and Voice for a reduced low end. March the “Tiny Desk Submission Season,” as I get a lot
two Modes: Smooth, for less-percussive music, and I have not had the opportunity to use an original RCA 44- of fun gigs for that annual contest). When you install the

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Aggressive, for driving source material. Pick one. Now, set A, but I do use ribbon mics often. The mainstay ribbons in drivers, you get the dspMixFx AXR matrix mixer and
the ceiling to desired max output. Lower the threshold my mic closet are the Coles 4038 [#15], the beyerdynamic control panel. Once I learned my way around the app I

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fader until you start to get the level/compression that's M 160 [#60], and the Cascade Fat Head [#55]. I have preferred this as a remote option to set mic pre levels, to
appropriate. See that the large red button called Sanity owned and used others, but these are the mics that have insert the built in zero-latency DSP plug-ins, and to build
Check? Enable it. Now you hear the post-limiting sound stayed in my collection. For this review, I mostly compared my monitor mixes.
at the same perceived loudness as the input source. Want
to level-up your limiting skills? Using a level-matched
source is one of the only real shortcuts. The Sanity Check
feature provides a defense against the louder-is-better
The Cloud 44-A has an incredibly natural-sounding (d
it against the Coles 4038 and the M 160 on various sources.

midrange. On several sources I didn’t feel like it was giving


me a sound, so much as it was just there – what was in the
Three Yamaha DSP plug-ins run internally, and they all
sound excellent. You get a barebones channel strip that
includes a nice VCA-style compressor, a fun drive knob,
and a three band EQ. The Comp276 seems clearly inspired
trap and serves as further proof that The Wall is a tool for room is what was coming out of the speaker. by an 1176, which should be familiar to most engineers.
working engineers. (Remember to disable Sanity Check During the process of my comparisons, I really learned I was impressed with the EQ-601, which is a six band EQ
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prior to rendering mixes.) a lot about my current ribbon mics when comparing them where all four mid bands are fully parametric – really
Across the bottom of the GUI is a Flavor control. Move to the Cloud 44-A. It was pretty much the same theme on sounds fantastic! You can run two inserts on each
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it left to right until you find the right vibe. Farther to the every source. When compared to the Cloud’s extreme channel, which meant I found little reason to the use the
left yields heavier compression and slower release, while midrange detail and tight low and top end, the Coles three band EQ on the channel strip, since the EQ-601 just
traveling to the right employs faster release times with 4038 had a slightly scooped, extremely smooth midrange, gave me so much more to work with.
higher distortion. Use your ears (not your eyes), and your
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with more high end sparkle and extended lows. Not that Each channel also includes an AUX send to a single
work is done. Extra features include oversampling (very the Cloud doesn’t have nice high end or solid low end – (global) instance of Yamaha’s (again) zero-latency REV-X
important for tweakheads, less critical for client roughs), it’s just different than the 4038’s… almost like an inverse reverb plug-in, which includes a Plate, Room, and Hall.
dither, MFiT (Mastering For iTunes), and stereo link. response from each other on sources like acoustic guitar. This seems intended for monitor mixes, which is exactly
With new digital limiters showing up frequently, we've I had never considered the Coles as scooped in the mids how I used it. I found the controls for the different reverb
become numb to the deluge of plug-in choices. Boz until I compared it to the Cloud 44-A. The beyerdynamic settings really nice to work with, and the visuals make it
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Digital Labs designs tools for the working engineer. The M 160, has much more of a bite in the midrange than the clear what each parameter does. However, since there’s
Wall is no different here. When time is money, pushing a others and does not have the same level of neutrality that no easy way to access any of the on-board DSP effects
reference mix out the door should not be complicated. At the Cloud 44-A possesses. On a vocal, things were much from a Pro Tools session, I ended up switching back to
the same time, you don't want to ruin the mix for the sake more similar sounding until the performer got very close. something available in my DAW for final mix down.
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of making it louder. With The Wall, simply set a few The Coles exhibited more low end boominess, whereas The four built-in preamps offer a lot of range, both in
parameters and odds are high that you'll have a the Cloud was much tighter – especially with its Voice terms of gain and timbre. You’ve got up to 68 dB of
respectable reference. Cheers to Boz Millar for dreaming setting engaged. On trumpet the Cloud 44-A was stellar. digitally-controlled gain, plus two types of a digitally-
up this one. ($99 direct; bozdigitallabs.com) It was like the trumpet was right there in my face without modeled version of Rupert Neve’s Silk circuit. It’s even got
-Garrett Haines <treelady.com> the squinting and pain a trumpet directly in your face his signature on the face, right next to the button that
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would typically cause! I can see the Cloud 44-A as a engages the circuit. It’s been years since I briefly played
Tape Op is made mainstay for brass and other midrange heavy instruments. with the analogue circuit that inspired these, but it
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Cloud offers a microphone with vintage style that will sounded pretty close to what I remember. I prefer the Red
possible by our impress clients, sound great, and comes in around $1500 flavor over the Blue, which adds some lo mid weight to
advertisers. – definitely worth a listen. the sound. A little goes a long way, and because I own
Please support them and tell ($1499 street; cloudmicrophones.com) so many flavors of harmonic saturation plug-ins, I chose
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them you saw their ad in Tape Op. -Justin Mantooth <justinmantooth.com> to play it conservative when out on paying gigs.
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When the AXR4 first arrived, I was excited to use it in force me into hours of tinkering to recall a mis-toggled JH: Also included with Studio One 4 Professional is a
32-bit integer recording, which is supported by Cubase function or hidden window. The end result was a dread for great bundle of virtual instruments, like the acclaimed
[Tape Op #131], Nuendo [#77], and WaveLab [#127]. experimenting, and I would only fire up the program when Impact XT and Sample One XT. With that said, I will admit
Note that Cubase AI (a “lite” version of Cubase Pro, also the song was mostly written. that I was initially disappointed with the quantity (or lack
32-bit compatible) is bundled with the interface. I Who knows if Studio One will also have to deal with a thereof) of bundled effects. Where the equivalent Roland
downloaded a demo of Cubase and tracked one of my weighed-down legacy interface in 2024 when it turns 15, version of Cakewalk Producer came with over 60 effects,
mobile sessions at 32-bit. I really love everything about but for now, it’s a welcome leapfrog improvement in so Studio One Professional comes with just over 40. But the
the AXR4, but at this stage in my work, the extra bits on many ways. To put it simply, with much fewer mouse key, as I quickly learned, is what can be done with these –
each sample aren't enough of an improvement in my clicks and keystrokes, far less CPU load, and no not how many there are – which speaks to Studio One’s
opinion to consider switching to a DAW that I'm not yet momentum-robbing crashes, I can get to the point of overall philosophy of doing more with less. While it’s old
comfortable with. writing and working more creatively. Meanwhile, its news to be able to curate your effects by type or vendor,
If you are a Cubase user, however, other nice deceptively minimal "flat" interface is intuitive enough to Studio One also has a pull-down menu from each mixer
integrations allow you to control the preamps without jump right in. Of course, there are many deep, expert- module’s insert where you can drop in some very well-
having to switch back and forth between your DAW and level layers, which may require a search online, but Studio designed chains tailored for drums, vocals, guitars, etc.
the control panel app. I'd sure love to have that control One’s enthusiastic community makes finding these When testing out different EQ and compression settings,
in my DAW, but executing a simple keyboard shortcut in features easy. or even reverb environments, this is a big time-saver
order to move between my DAW and the control panel app DG: After being an active user of Pro Tools for more instead of starting from the ground up.
is worth the trouble for me in order to use the fine AXR4’s than 15 years, I’d been searching for a replacement Even more interesting is that Studio One’s channel
converters while working inside the software I'm most DAW – one that I can quickly and intuitively record and editor is a convenient graphical interface. Here you can
comfortable with. If you're in the market for a premium mix in, and most importantly, that is fast on the editing drag and drop effect orders or even insert multiple signal-

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expandable multi-channel converter, you should side of the fence. I won’t get too deep into why I’m chain splits to put effects in parallel. The most obvious
absolutely place the AXR4 on your short list. feeling a bit done with Pro Tools, but my issues with the application might be parallel processing using multiple

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($2,799 street; new.steinberg.net) platform align with all of the common complaints in the compressors, but it’s also easy to set up multiband
-Scott McDowell <fadersolo.com> user communities – instability, arcane subscription fees, compression, for example, where you can select a parallel
PreSonus sluggish development, seemingly unempathetic support.
Change is good, right? In this instance, yes! After
routing by frequency. (The other two split modes are
normal or by channel.) You can also use effects splitting
Studio One 4.5 Professional spending some time with Studio One 4.5 Professional, I for a myriad of other creative uses, such as pushing a
It’s been nearly a decade since we published a review feel like I’ve found a new "home DAW" – one that doesn’t guitar signal into two different amp plug-ins, resulting in

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of the original version of Studio One [Tape Op #76]. Over just replace Pro Tools for me, but makes recording and a really sophisticated sound from a single source.
the years, the DAW’s feature set has grown significantly, mixing feel freshly creative and super-efficient. DG: I appreciate that drag and drop support is extensive

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and, impressively, it remains one of the most streamlined For me, there are several factors that not only made throughout the mix and arrange views. For example,
audio applications in terms of its user experience. Two of the transition from Pro Tools to Studio One a no- dragging the insert header in any track will copy over that
our veteran contributing writers recently switched to brainer, but actually opened up new uses as a go-to track’s complete plug-in chain. Creating sends is as easy
Studio One for music recording and mixing. Previously,
Dana Gumbiner relied primarily on Pro Tools [#126] in the
studio and at home, while he also served as our resident
expert on Ableton Live (which he continues to use for
DAW. Some of these factors and features overlap
slightly with my other favorite applications, like
Ableton Live [Tape Op #126], but many stand apart on
their own innovative digital legs.
(d as dragging a plug-in from the browser to the Send
section of the mix panel, which automatically creates both
the send and return channels. Same principles apply to
sidechained plug-ins – any plug-in with a sidechain
electronic music production and stage performance). A crucial element of making the transition smooth is assignment to it will carry that allocation over to
Meanwhile, John Hong recorded, mixed, and mastered on that all of the primary Pro Tools keyboard shortcuts can whichever track it is drag and dropped. There are tons of
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his Windows laptop using Cakewalk [#126]. We invited be mapped to Studio One via a series of included clever time-savers like this throughout the software.
both writers to tell us about their experiences with Studio mappings. (Mapping schemes are also included for JH: Meanwhile, the incorporation of Macro Controls
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One 4.5 Professional. –AH Cubase, Logic, and Cakewalk.) Over time, I’ve created a takes the efficiency factor to 11; instead of painstakingly
JH: I started using recording software, namely Cakewalk sort of hybrid keyboard shortcut mapping that utilizes my having to double-click an effect to individually adjust it,
[Tape Op #126], in 1992 – roughly the same year I started Pro Tools muscle memory but also takes advantage of you can map the most relevant parameters of any effect
using AutoCAD for architecture. For this reason, I can’t
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Studio One’s efficiencies. Although I found Studio One into the knobs and buttons of a single control panel. I
help making parallel comparisons between the two. intuitive, the manual helped me to unlock some of its thought I would miss the CPU-busting Nomad Factory
Cakewalk was my musician’s version of AutoCAD. Where more in-depth features. Even better are all of the helpful analog compressors that came with Cakewalk, but with
the latter made digital drafting available to the masses, (free!) online resources, including YouTube channels like Studio One’s routing options at my fingertips, I can more
the former allowed me to move from tape to digital within Studio One Expert and Marcus Huyskens Music. easily and flexibly dial up much better options.
the ubiquitous Windows OS. Both programs were game Three tiers of the DAW are available: Studio One MIDI editing is also intuitive and full of useful
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changers for obvious reasons, but as software Professional, Artist, and Prime (the latter being free). shortcuts. Individual or groups of notes can be edited on
development goes, new products like Studio One don’t just Even the full-bling Professional version is affordable, the fly, with variations of holding down Ctrl/Alt, or
move the game forward in a linear way, they leapfrog plus crossgrade pricing is available. PreSonus has great hovering over a parameter and spinning the mouse wheel.
several steps ahead. free support, too. The interface is pleasing to the The Paint Brush tool has an assortment of different
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To take the analogy further, mid-2000s software during eyeballs, and all of the fonts and graphics used are functionalities, including a fantastic Photoshop-like
the dreaded Windows Vista era became the equivalent of retina-level nice. Everything is super-customizable, Transform that allows you to sketch in crescendos or
‘80s gas guzzlers. Programs like AutoCAD and Cakewalk, with a fantastic macro engine, tabbed plug-in decrescendos. There are also plenty of macros that can
with one foot shackled to the analog conceptual world, windows, and a full-featured plug-in manager with the perform multiple functions at once, with Humanize being
became bloated to accommodate new functions within old ability to organize/show/hide your third-party plug- the most revolutionary, as it has allowed me to flip my
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form. Even as I moved on from AutoCAD, I stuck with ins. One of my favorite features in Studio One inefficient workflow around 180 degrees. As I am
Cakewalk through habit for many years, appreciating its Professional is seamless Melodyne integration via ARA, admittedly "tape-era old-skool," I would spend an
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incremental improvements, but realizing that its long- which means that you don’t have to wrestle with the inordinate amount of time programming drums organically
lived legacy was exactly its Achilles heel. Compounding its roundtrip export/import workflow typical of Melodyne through a MIDI keyboard controller to avoid that
glitches that would munch away at a golden performance, use in other applications. I can select an audio quantized sound. Now, I just robotically input the data
its attempt to bridge legacy and new functionality resulted waveform and hit Cmd+M to analyze and/or alter into the grid and copy whole sections, but then Humanize
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in inane shortcuts; a split-second slip of the finger would pitches non-destructively (and instantly). the notes to add some spookily real "feel" (or "error," if
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you prefer) to the performance. I still can’t get over the in version 4.5 are a direct result of user feedback, which
idea that I’m cheating, but just as I recently abandoned highlights an important point: PreSonus seems to listen
my temperamental tube guitar amps, I’m willing to let to their user base. Every release (even free dot releases)
Studio One’s smart algorithm do its thing if it buys me seems to include a significant majority of well-integrated
several hours to make a better song. user requests – not just bolt-on hacks but
DG: I’m impressed with the depth of the MIDI thoughtfully implemented designs. And this latter point is
implementation, which is as robust as Ableton Live in why I’m likely to remain loyal to this platform well into
many areas. I like the inclusion of the Chord Track, which the future – because it feels like it was built by creatives
becomes a powerful way to audition new progressions who genuinely care about creating.
and arrangements when paired with Studio One’s built-in Importantly, the raw performance of the application
time and pitch–shifting and Scratch Pad features. There’s and the included plug-ins are exceptional. Studio One is
a circle-of-fifths tool to help with harmonic editing and stable as hell, and virtual instrument performance is a vast
experimentation, which makes me feel like I want to drop improvement over Pro Tools. Separate buffers for playback
all of my unfinished songs into a Studio One project and and recording mean I’m not wasting time changing my
get to work. audio buffer settings when I switch from low-latency
JH: Speaking of songwriting, Studio One is continuing to tracking to CPU-taxing mixing (or back again when the
blow my mind with how powerfully it simplifies the drummer wants to overdub a shaker part).
songwriting process through the Arranger Track and Pads. JH: Speaking of tracking, I want to mention Studio
The functionality of these tools is so essential and easy, I One’s Native Low-latency plug-in Monitoring (or what has
wonder why it took so long for a company to invent them. been nicknamed "Green Z"). Maybe I’m saving the best for

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You can simply paint over sections of your song to define last, because I’m still in a kind of suspended disbelief that
composition blocks. Studio One automatically smart-names software monitoring can actually work this well. Through

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these as intro, verse, chorus, etc. Although you can change some mojo-magic, your plug-ins can become part of the
the names any time, mostly they end up being right. You monitor mix as long as the vendor designed them with
can then drag, resize, and edit these blocks as the ideas less than 3 ms latency. One potential glitch was that the
develop. Most importantly, Arranger seamlessly interfaces option to enable Green Z was initially unavailable with my
with the Scratch Pad. Instead of having to save multiple Roland or Yamaha USB devices, no matter how I adjusted
versions of a song (or lose an idea in Ctrl-Z purgatory), you the buffers or block sizes. As soon as I installed the

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can open up a sidebar and non-destructively play around PreSonus Universal Control driver after purchasing the
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Arranger track. When you arrive at a sketch you like, you immediately appeared for all my devices.
then drag it to the Arranger or replace an existing section One of my favorite guitar amp plug-ins, Overloud TH3,
altogether. It doesn’t matter if there’s a combination of worked brilliantly through Green Z. Previously, I was
MIDI notes or sound events – the workflow is fluid.
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The above examples are just some of many ways Studio
One provides a "no duh, this should be obvious"
breakthrough for workflow. There are too many to
unable to simultaneously run a virtual drum instrument
like Addictive Drums, without first rendering it to an audio
track, due to latency issues; but now, I can easily monitor
TH3 with near-zero latency, while my software drum kit is
continue describing them here, so I’ll just quickly mention playing. This allows me to keep editing the drum MIDI
a few more of my favorites. First, while track folders are data while developing the guitar parts and sound. In this
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able to right-click a bunch of tracks and immediately the biggest time-savers within my songwriting workflow.
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create a bus for them is a fast way to simplify and save The secondary benefit is that low-latency monitoring
on multiple instances of effects. A folder for these bused allows you to converge the creative process of adding
tracks can then act as a "parent" (if you so choose) to effects while recording the performance, instead of
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control the volume and pan of the bus, rather than having waiting until playback. A little hurdle, however, is that
to fiddle with each track separately. Secondly, instead of with Green Z enabled, tape-style punch-in recording,
having to add whole automation tracks to add a splash where you hear a portion of the previous take, is not
effect in one location, event-based drag and drop allows possible. A simple workaround is to create a dummy track
you to add them to just one clip while having options for just for Green Z monitoring, while turning off monitoring
the effects’ tails. Thirdly, take-lane recording and editing on the actual tracks that are armed for overdubbing.
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are rock-solid simple and hugely time-efficient. Where To use one last architectural trope, "God is in the
Cakewalk couldn’t deal with selecting a portion of a take details," and after using Studio One for a year now, I know
over the "seam" of previously selected takes, resulting in how much effort the program designers at PreSonus put
more and more fragments, Studio One can automatically into really enhancing the creative workflow at the detail
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(and magically) mend these seams by dragging over an level. Studio One’s intuitive design allows you to jump
entire portion of a take. Moreover, several steps are saved right in; within a few sessions, its basic functions become
because the combined takes appear together as a second nature, which is the ultimate goal of any great
complete track in the top lane at all times, instead of piece of software – to become transparent so we can focus
distributed in fragments within individual lanes below. on the task at hand. Moreover, Studio One has a world of
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organizational features, including the ability to create going deep into its myriad of functions.
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nested folders of tracks (similar to Live), but lacked the (Studio One Professional $399.95 MSRP, 25% crossgrade
grouping features I had become accustomed to in Pro discount; Artist $99.95; Prime free; presonus.com)
Tools. Studio One 4.5’s take on groups is so much better, -John Hong <jh0st.com>
with customizable track grouping that works precisely like & Dana Gumbiner <danagumbiner.com>
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Universal Audio The LARC is perhaps just as iconic as the 480L itself; this wedge
of plastic with its six sliders, chunky buttons, and red-on-black LED
Lexicon 480L plug-in display was instantly recognizable in any photograph of a studio,
There was a time in the ‘80s and ‘90s when the word where it was generally given pride-of-place on the center section
“Lexicon” became synonymous with reverb. Like Kleenex, of the console. As this was also the only way to control the 480L
Photoshop, or Google – if you heard, “Just add some (there were no controls on the rack other than a power switch), it
Lexicon to that” in the studio, you knew it was time to makes sense to use the LARC as the basis for the way to control the
add some reverb to the track. Released in 1986, the plug-in. The parameters are better grouped on the UA version of
Lexicon 480L was the cream of the crop for reverb the LARC, as they weren’t limited by the physical capabilities of the
hardware at the time; two independent stereo processors hardware, but I’m not entirely convinced that this is the best or
(“Machines” in the lexicon of… Lexicon!) with 18-bit easiest way to interface with the plug-in; the LARC worked because
A/D and D/A conversion helped give the 480L that you could have two hands on it moving multiple faders
“expensive” sound it was known for. While mostly known simultaneously while paging through parameters or changing
for its glorious, long reverbs, as well as short ambiences programs. Without that direct, tactile control of the plug-in UI,
and rooms, the 480L was also capable of delays and there’s a lot of mousing and clicking involved.
modulation effects, making it one of the first true “multi- There’s a reason the 480L became one of the most revered digital
effect” digital units. All this power came at a price; the reverbs ever, and it’s that sound and the depth of editing that is
3 rack space 480L and the LARC (Lexicon Alphanumeric available within the algorithms that UA have really captured here.
Remote Control) cost over $10,000 when it came out, so If you need that lush, modulated reverb that sits in a mix and just
it was firmly in the camp of pro studio installs only. feels “right,” this may be the reverb for you.

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Enter the good folks at Universal Audio, who have ($349 direct; uaudio.com) -Don Gunn <dongunn.com>
created the only official, Lexicon-endorsed plug-in of
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the classic 480L hardware for their UAD platform of
interfaces and expanders. Meticulously modeling the DBC-20 Diode Bridge Compressor
original 480L algorithms, as well as the sound of the When I first heard that Tim Farrant of New Zealand’s Buzz Audio
I/O converters, while using the layout of the LARC as had designed a new stereo compressor based around a diode bridge
the graphical interface for the plug-in, the UA 480L gain reduction circuit, I immediately knew that this was something
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that could potentially rock my world. I have been a huge fan of
anyone with UAD hardware for only $349. Tim’s work for years, as I’ve had the pleasure of using some of his
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other pieces on several mixes and always loved the results. There is
Programs are built. These are: Reverb, Ambience, Twin something so cool – so straight up and down – about his gear, and
Delays, Random, and Effects. Each algorithm has its own in my experience I have found that it just does exactly what I need
group of parameters for shaping the Programs. When it to with finesse and gorgeous sonics. What I also love is
stepping through the Programs, which are organized
under Banks (ten Banks consisting of ten Programs each)
and grouped by algorithm, if you are at all familiar with
the 480L hardware it becomes instantly apparent that UA
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something that’s a little outside of the norm – let’s face it, diode
bridge compressors do not come along every day. For good reason
perhaps... they apparently can be quite finicky to get right at the
design stage, as diodes have a want to distort rather nastily at even
have nailed the modeling of these iconic sounds. Vocals moderate levels, just like your favorite diode fuzz pedal. Therefore,
take on a depth and dimension when placed in a Random carefully designed circuits must be applied to achieve the kind of
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Hall patch. Drums get that “big ‘80s ballad” explosion on results that we know from classic vintage diode compressors like
backbeats, or sit in a small room that sounds
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those by Neve and EMI. Tim has taken to this style of compressor
convincingly real for an algorithmic space. The Programs with his own new design, and let me just say that he has nailed it.
in the Ambience Banks were designed for post This unit now gets used on every tracking session and mix.
production (film, television, etc.) work; these are some This is a dual mono/stereo compressor with separate controls for
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incredibly realistic sounding spaces that are the types of each channel. Instead of a threshold knob, we have Compression
environments many people use convolution reverbs for knob which compresses the program material harder as you turn it
today, but with the Spin and Wander parameters clockwise. Attack and Release controls are both stepped; the Attack
incorporated in the algorithms, these modeled places goes from “fast” to 50 ms and the Release goes from 50 ms to 600
have the subtle movement that occurs in a real space, ms (as well as a useful Auto setting for program dependent release).
rather than a static ambience snapshot of an impulse Next there is a Hard/Soft switch that changes the behavior of the
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response. The Twin Delays and Effects Programs range compressor in exactly the way that you would expect from those
from subtle doublers to wild, cascading delays; you can words, as well as a Flat/Bass switch to knock out some low end
use these algorithms to build phasing delays, tremolos, from the sidechain for those times when you don’t want the super-
and modulated reverse/gated effects – definitely more
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than you might expect in just a reverb unit! gain knob, and a Separate/Linked switch for stereo or mono usage.
I found myself gravitating to the Random If you noticed that there’s no ratio control mentioned, that’s
algorithm to create spacious vocal reverbs that have because the ratio varies according to the amount of gain reduction
enough movement in their tails to keep them audible applied, a la classic compressor designs from the past such as the
in a mix (yet not becoming distracting). The Plates Fairchild 660/670. This is one of the features that I am sure
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and Rooms programs (created with the Reverb contributes to the effortless and natural compression action.
algorithm) are fantastic on snares and toms; these Another interesting design feature that I feel is worth mentioning
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sounds definitely have a bit of a dated quality to is that although the compressor is electronically balanced in and
them, especially when compared to a number of out, Tim has incorporated a transformer of his own design in the
current algorithmic reverbs, but there’s also circuitry just before the diode bridge which brings color and
something rather endearing about them, particularly harmonics to the audio the harder you hit the front end.
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So how does it sound? I have found this unit to be the There are five pairs of XLR Stereo Outputs. In 5.1 mode,
"all-arounder” that I was hoping for – it can take on just the first three sets of I/O gang together to form a monitor
about any task with fantastic results. I would describe its path in the SMPTE channel configuration. In Stereo mode,
overall sound as sweet, open, and punchy. For tracking on they are simply three discrete stereo pairs. Since the
the album Hope Downs by Australian band Rolling SMPTE spec is L/R/C/LFE/Ls/Rs, your favorite set of
Blackouts Coastal Fever [Tape Op #131], I found the DBC- monitors is available on Output 1 in either mode and the
20 invaluable as an electric guitar compressor, as I was 4th and 5th sets of outputs enable the particularly
able to craft the kind of attack, chime, and sustain out of speaker-rich to still have three pairs of monitors at the
the guitars that I had in my head. The tone of the unit is ready for stereo work without the need to ever physically
so smooth yet clear, and never seems to exaggerate any reset the room. Considering this, Heritage Audio has
annoying frequencies in this application, and the attack is configured the LFE output to be useable in both stereo
just right – no needle-like pin points here. Acoustic guitars and multi-channel modes if desired, however there is no
also can sound really classic through this unit – it tends onboard bass management in either stereo or 5.1. I
to bring an instant ‘70s vibe. In mixing, if it’s not on the already employ plug-in based bass management when
mix bus then it’s on the drums! I mean wow... I’ve had the working in surround, which simultaneously ensures the
chance to compare the unit to a friend’s Chandler TG12412 deliverables will be printed correctly and makes a layer of
Zener Limiter [Tape Op #59], another classic diode control at the monitor level unnecessary. For stereo use,
compressor that has a way of punishing drums in such a even the most entry-level consumer subwoofers have
cool, vintage way that must be heard to be believed. I had onboard controls for crossover and volume, so bass
no faith in the DBC-20 keeping up in this application, and management feels redundant here as well.

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yet with the attack set to Fast, with a medium-slowish The Bluetooth input will likely be quite controversial
release, and plenty of gain reduction, we were staggered with some of you luddites, so I will skip any kind of

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at how close it got that we began high-fiving. Needless to qualitative analysis and simply say it does work and is
say, my friend is now the owner of a DBC-20. really cool. The RAM 5000’s Bluetooth circuit
On the opposite end of the sonic spectrum, I have automatically detects the best available codec on the
found this unit to be a fantastic and relatively clean tool pairing device and utilizes the highest resolution available
on the mix bus for adding vibe and authority to a track. – AAC lossless for Apple devices and Qualcomm’s aptX for
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really shine in this application – each release time has a that can’t communicate via either of the other higher
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it can be hard to choose which one to go with. With the based around the venerable Burr Brown op-amp design,
amount of versatility on tap here, in my opinion the results in a wireless streaming connection that is both
asking price makes this a no-brainer. extremely convenient and properly good sounding. It feels
($1550 street; buzzaudio.com)
-Liam Judson <www.liamjudson.com>
Heritage Audio
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with our highly prized vision of the recent past. Let the
RAM 5000 be the rocks that I forever dash the ubiquitous
and shitty-sounding 1/4-inch-to-whatever cable upon.
RAM System 5000 The standout feature for me is the talkback
5.1 monitoring system implementation. The remote has momentary switches
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hybrid/in the box era in which we find ourselves is the available cue feeds. There’s gain control for the talkback
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loss of a coherent, thoughtful approach to the monitor mic built into the remote as well. Engaging talkback
section of a studio. The center section of a large format dims the studio monitors as expected, but Heritage
console is almost always hugely flexible and easy to Audio has also added an 8-channel DB-25 I/O
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use, especially compared to the complication of passthrough for third party cue systems which
integrating a mix of components from several simultaneously dims all the cue feeds and routes
manufacturers. I needed to find an affordable monitor talkback to every channel of the passthrough. This
controller that was capable of both stereo and 5.1 feature solves an essential issue I’d been trying to figure
surround operation and painlessly switchable between out for years, and to my knowledge no other major
both – a part of the market in which I found consumer monitor controller has this functionality.
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surprisingly underserved. Enter the Heritage Audio The construction of both the remote and rack unit of
Reference Audio Monitoring system 5000 (RAM 5000 for the RAM 5000 feel robust, and all the switches and knobs
short). The RAM 5000 is Heritage Audio’s flagship are nicely tactile. The switches on the remote are
entrant to the monitor controller space. It’s so illuminated and monitor level is displayed on a backlit
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surprisingly affordable and comparatively feature-rich screen so you can easily see the current state at a glance
that I felt compelled to write this review after having – even in the vibe-iest of lighting situations. One thing
already purchased one for use in my studio. unique to the RAM 5000, however, is that the remote
The four main sets of analog +4 dBu inputs are connects wirelessly to the rack unit. The only physical
presented on standard DB-25 connectors. Main Input 1 on connection on the rear of the remote is the USB-B
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the DB-25 connector is additionally mirrored on XLR for connector used for charging the unit. The typical and
ease of use in smaller setups. There’s also a -10 dBV specialized, multi-pin cable situation is instead replaced
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consumer line-level input presented on unbalanced RCA by a jaunty little antenna! If I’m being honest, wireless
connectors, a Digital Input with connectors presented for connectivity for the remote felt a bit gimmicky until I
AES/EBU, TOSLINK, and S/PDIF, and last, but definitely handed it to someone across the room so they could use
not least, a Bluetooth input for consumer devices. the talkback system just like the brainstorm remotes from
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the days of yore. In normal use here, I have simply routed If a studio has the budget to buy these headphones for
a USB cable to the controller so power need never enter ADAM Audio their session musicians, it would be money well spent. They’re
the conversation – the remote is also fully operational STUDIO PRO SP-5 headphones comfortable, transparent, sturdy, and well-built, which is
while charging. That being said, my remote just made it to Since building my mixing space last summer, I’ve been crucial for gear that gets used and abused every day. The SP-
50 hours on a single charge under heavy use. looking for a solid pair of headphones for mix referencing 5s are the first headphones I’ve heard under $1000 that I trust
The RAM 5000 replaced a Tonelux CR2 Control Room that wouldn’t break the bank. When I heard that ADAM for mix referencing. They’re also comfortable and transparent,
Monitor Module, which I had known and loved for about Audio, maker of highly regarded studio monitors, had which is crucial during tracking sessions. The imaging and
ten years; but as soon as I plugged in my new system it ventured into the headphone game, I had to try them for depth are exceptional, and they’re easy to listen to for hours.
was an old friend. It sounded slightly more modern and myself. Their SP-5 (short for “Studio Pro”) headphone is a If you’re looking to upgrade from your old, cheap classics, I
cleaner than the CR2, which made the RAM 5000 feel like closed-back headphone with S-Logic Plus Technology, can’t think of a better pair of headphones to consider than
a welcome update to a system I already knew and loved, developed by Ultrasone [Tape Op #34, 82]. According to the SP-5s – I’ve already got a pair of my own now!
rather than something that would require any learning ADAM Audio, the SP-5s “were engineered with a specific ($499 street; adam-audio.com)
curve to integrate. goal in mind – to allow professional musicians, producers -Gus Berry <gusberry.com>
I’ve been working with the RAM 5000 for about six
months now, and in that time have sound-designed two
and engineers access to a portable form of monitoring with
the excellent transient response and tonal balance of ADAM
Tone Empire
independent films in 5.1, scored two independent films in Audio’s professional monitor speakers.” I have to say; LOC-NESS plug-in
5.1 (one delivered stems in stereo, the other, final mixes they’ve really done just that. Tone Empire’s LOC-NESS (aka “the Smash-Box”) is a
in 5.1), hosted a 5.1 rerecord premix for an outside mixer For years I have been using my trusty Sennheiser HD 280 dedicated channel plug-in designed for processing
that we then finished in 5.1 at a dub stage here in town, Pro headphones for tracking, and the occasional mix individual drum hits, a drum set’s room sound, or the
mixed an orchestral score in stereo for Kris Bowers for an reference. I understand that a pair of SP-5 headphones is entire drum bus. It is touted as a mystical plug-in that

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audiobook Kobe Bryant produced, mixed the new Bing & almost five times the cost of the Sennheisers, but I brings all the right controls and colors for drums to your
Ruth record in stereo for 4AD Records, mixed a AAA video imagine, like myself, that most people interested in buying DAW. While I have shied away from “all-in-one” plug-ins in

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game score in 5.1 (which required a massive and highly them will be looking to upgrade lower priced headphones. the past, this thing has some great vibe – it’s like some
specific set of multi-channel outputs), mixed half an I used the Little Labs Monotor [Tape Op #117] headphone sketchy hardware thing you might find in your uncle’s
episode of Kris Bowers’ score for Ava DuVernay’s new show amp after an Antelope Audio Orion [#99] converter to basement that does this one special magic trick. Needless
in 5.1, tendering ten wide 5.1 stems in the style of the conduct my tests. At first, I did some critical listening to to say, I am now a believer in the legend of LOC-NESS.
mixer who had handled the bulk of the series, did a week records I know very well, and the results were astonishing. LOC-NESS has two main processing controls: Crust and
Smash. Crust adds color and saturation while Smash

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of production, and overdubs with Heather Christian for the I’d never heard headphones quite like this. Because of the
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stereo), as well as a host of writing sessions, commercial depth to the soundstage, whereas the Sennheisers felt as if Universal Audio’s 1176 “all buttons in” setting. Signal flow
songs, the occasional mix recall, and more than a few late the music was being shoved right into my ears. It truly is from Crust to Smash via serial configuration. These two
night YouTube holes/phone rough listening parties (via sounds like you’re listening to speakers in front of you. The controls give you a lot of flexibility to add edginess (Crust)
Bluetooth!). This kind of genre, media, and channel SP-5s have an impressive frequency response of 8 Hz to 38 and fatness (Smash) to your tone. I will note that the
configuration hopping is pretty typical for me these days,
and the RAM 5000 has been flawless through it all.
As far as any complaints, the Master Level knob itself
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kHz, allowing for a reliable translation from studio monitors
to headphones. For example, in a song I’m currently loving
that was recently released, it wasn’t until I put on the SP-
Smash function is very aggressive, and I often only needed
a touch to get the desired amount of punch. There are also
four Type buttons below these controls that vary the level
of Crust saturation. I found myself using the first two
is not detented. In operation, this isn’t an issue because 5s that I realized there was upright bass on the track, not
the knob is simply a control voltage source that tells the electric bass. On my Sennheisers, there is low end, but it’s settings for subtle, yet edgier sounds.
In addition to Crust and Smash, the filter set is also a nice
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rack unit which fixed-level output relay to utilize. undefined and doesn’t have the midrange detail that would
Effectively, this means it’s still a “detented” control, but allow for this kind of critical listening. With the SP-5s, I feature. Low and high cut filters allow you to dial in the range
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literally everyone who touched it for the first time said, could hear reverb tails and delays clearly, and the of sound you want to effect, leaving the rest of the frequency
“Oh, it’s not detented?” in the same judge-y way – instrument “staging” in the mix mimicked almost exactly as spectrum unprocessed. LOC-NESS works great in parallel or on
myself included. Ironically enough, even though the I hear it on my Ocean Way Pro2A [#116] monitors. a single track. For single instance channel inserts, separate Wet
Tonelux CR2 was a detented, switched network of We recently held an event at Jackpot! Recording Studio for and Dry controls allow for in-depth blending of the processed
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resistors in fine old-school fashion, it was also prone to ADAM Audio’s Berry Hill Sessions where we tracked a live and unprocessed signal to taste, with a Phase button that
switching noise – something that no amount of Caig band (Sunday State) using ADAM Audio monitors while the inverts polarity between both signals. Finally, a Trim control
DeoxIT or exercising could ever really fix. Another thing band used the SP-5 headphones. Toward the end of the day, allows for attenuation after the Wet and Dry controls. All of the
I noticed is that engaging the talkback can occasionally I asked the band members how they felt using the SP-5s for settings are intuitive, and 15-minutes was all I needed to get
make a large “clack.” This appears to be mechanically- tracking, and they all had wonderful things to say. The a feel for LOC-NESS. There are presets of course, but I choose
coupled noise from the switch being depressed, as the drummer said there was excellent isolation and that they to be adventurous and just start turning dials!
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talkback mic is mounted inside the remote. This isn’t a never slipped off his head while playing. The rest of the band LOC-NESS is advertised as a drum and percussion processor,
problem with a light touch, but I could see that noise all said the headphones were incredibly comfortable and but I also enjoyed using it on a parallel guitar bus to add
becoming an issue in situations where you’re gave them no ear fatigue, which leads me to my next point… some bite to several stacked guitar tracks. What really put a
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multitasking quickly with a client who likes to listen to One of the coolest features of these headphones is that grin on my face was the tone I got using this processor on
their headphones at full blast. All that said, the RAM they provide even and balanced power at high and low bass guitar tracks. With only default settings and the Type
5000 is a huge winner for me. A massive amount of volumes, leading to virtually no ear fatigue. Working on this selector set to position 2, the LOC-NESS really approximated a
connectivity, smarter stereo and multi-channel review has been eye opening for me in realizing how classic Ampeg SVT amp setting nicely. Clearly the possibilities
interoperation, arguably the most intelligent talkback unnecessarily loud we listen to music on headphones. We use are endless with this plug-in. LOC-NESS worked great for
integration with multi-channel third party cue systems volume to compensate for lack of detail, but with the SP-5s adding heaviness and grit to lead vocals and could definitely
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on the market, and freaking Bluetooth. Best of all, it I found myself listening to music at lower levels while still be used to enhance keyboards or virtual instruments.
sounds incredible and is $1,500 cheaper than the receiving a fantastic and defined sound. This is extremely Not just a bus compressor, LOC-NESS gives drums impact
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closest alternative, with a feature set that rivals some of helpful when we spend full days in studios listening to music. – I even used it to breathe life into a stale sounding canned
the most expensive controllers available today. The SP-5s also come with a detachable coil cable (via a drum loop. This plug-in is not resource intensive, so you
($1999 MSRP; heritageaudio.net) twist-lock 1/8-inch connector), which is handy for can use it liberally, and at $79 it provides the bang for the
buck we’re all looking for! ($79 direct; tone-empire.com)
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-Brian Bender <brightandguilty.com> customizable options and helps increase their lifespan.
-Ben Bernstein <benbernsteinmusic.com>
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Valhalla DSP
ValhallaDelay plug-in
Full disclosure; while I’m going to review Valhalla DSP’s latest plug-in, ValhallaDelay, I’m also
one of the two product designers of the plug-in, along with Valhalla DSP founder Sean Costello.
This may lend my review towards a more Behind The Gear flavor while also talking about the
product, its features, and how it fares under heavy use. [For the record, Don is one of our senior
gear reviewers and has done many pieces for Tape Op. We asked him to do this review in order to
learn more about the process of building a plug-in like ValhallaDelay. - Ed.]
I’ve been involved with Sean and Valhalla DSP for the last seven years, originally starting as
someone to lend Sean my ears (and my studio) for performing deep analysis on new algorithm
designs for ValhallaVintageVerb, and, since then we’ve continued the process for the subsequent
plug-ins that have followed.
We started talking about what would eventually become ValhallaDelay almost four years ago,
even before we had finished and released ValhallaPlate. Much of the original design brief centered
around the desire to make the most accurate digital representation of the tape echoes we both
love (Sean is especially obsessed...), particularly the Roland RE-201 Space Echo. There are already
some excellent delay plug-ins that come close to the sound, but none that made either of us
think we were hearing the real thing, especially when compared to a well-maintained original
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overcome during our research and analysis phases; 40-plus-year-old tape delays have an
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spent on repairs as purchasing units to measure and analyze!
Much of our research time was spent listening to things like distortion, the tonal character of
feedback, finding noise levels, analyzing noise colors, and discovering where in the signal path
it occured or was generated – truly riveting stuff! Eight to ten hours of that in a day left both
Sean and I feeling a bit like we’d been hit by a truck. Some of those days yielded huge
breakthroughs, and we felt really good about the work done. Other times we’d realize that we had

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With that background information out of the way, let’s talk about ValhallaDelay! Like all of our
products, ValhallaDelay is a 32- and 64-bit VST/Audio Unit/AAX-compatible plug-in for both
macOS and Windows (10.8 and above, and Win7 and above, respectively); it’s also the first

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Valhalla plug-in to be released in the VST3 format, which we will roll into the other plug-ins
through updates later this year.
ValhallaDelay is built around Modes and Styles. Modes are effectively the “machine that was
modeled,” so this is where you’ll find Tape, Hi-Fi, BBD, Digital, Ghost, Pitch, and Reverse Pitch.
Lest you think “making a tape delay” was all we were trying to do, au contraire! Tape is exactly
what it says on the tin – this is our RE-201 with all the noise, dirt, and tape-splice goodness of
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to dub heaven. Hi-Fi is a cleaner variation of Tape; imagine an idealized, digital version of a tape
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delay, with all the character but less of the noise/dirt. BBD is a dark, noisy bucket-brigade delay,
lovingly modeled on one of Sean’s favorite BBD guitar pedals; during our analysis in the final days
of initial development, we couldn’t tell which was the pedal and which was BBD mode in Delay
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in blind tests, so that was a nice victory during the process! Digital is modeled on some of the
classic digital units from the ‘80s, with the lower bandwidths and delicious grit they are known
for. Ghost is an analog-style delay with frequency-shifting; perfect for creating scary-movies
voices and reverbs you’ve never heard anywhere else. Pitch and Reverse Pitch are both digital
models with forward and reverse pitch-shifting, respectively.
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secret to turning your delay into some of the most interesting and useful reverbs. Sean and I went
back and forth a lot about whether to include the ability to add diffusion, but once we both started
realizing we liked the reverbs we could make in ValhallaDelay more than most of our usual suspects
(including some other Valhalla products!), it had to remain. Also common are the Color parameters
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of Drive and Age. Drive is an input saturation control that is gain-scaled so the output level stays
constant even with boosts of 24 dB of gain. Age is Mode-specific and changes things like asperity
noise and tape splice artifacts in Tape, to bit-depth in Digital, to bucket-brigade noise in BBD.
The Modulation parameters vary between the Modes and are model-specific, thus Tape has Wow
and Flutter, Hi-Fi/BBD/Digital have standard sine-wave Rate and Depth, and Ghost and the two Pitch
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The ERA control subtly changes the overall character of each Mode depending on the era chosen,
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generally moving from darker and noisier in Past, to cleaner and brighter in Present and Future.
The Style control is where you choose the number of delay voices; the choices are Single, Dual,
Ratio, Ping-Pong, and Quad; each Style also has additional, unique parameters that appear when
one is chosen. Single is one stereo delay voice with feedback, but the addition of a Spread control
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configuration. Dual gives independent delay values for left and right channels, while Ratio uses
the Delay time parameter to set the left delay and then the Ratio control to set the right channel

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as a ratio of the left – it sounds tricky, but in practice can yield some really interesting textures
that would be difficult to achieve in other styles or other delay units and plug-ins. Ping-Pong
sends the feedback of the left delay into the right delay, and then to the left, and then to the
right, and then… you understand. Setting the Width control to -100% reverses the direction of
the ping and pong, so it starts on the right channel and moves left (Pong-Ping?). The Quad style

at actual size*
is our emulation of multi-headed tape echoes; you are given four tape heads, any of which may
be turned on or off. There’s a Spacing control to adjust the ratio of spacing between the heads
and this is a bi-polar control, so values greater than 0% move the spacings closer to the shortest
delay/head, while values less than 0% move the taps closer to the longest delay. There is a
Repeat/Swell button in Quad mode that affects the behavior of the mode by taking the feedback
from tap D when in Repeat, or from all Taps that are switched on when in Swell.
You can clearly see that we pushed this far beyond the initial concept of, “Let’s make a
shockingly good tape delay plug-in!” In practice, I find myself using instances of ValhallaDelay
all over my mixes; it’s not uncommon for me to have at least 10-12 aux tracks set up with
Delay used for micro-shifted delays and pitches on vocals, reverbs on drums, slap-back delays
on snare, a send with an instance of Ghost mode doing some crazy reverse frequency-shifted
reverb for strings, multiple tempo-synced delays for guitars and vocals, and on and on. It’s also
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shifting and evolving. We wanted the plug-in to invite experimentation and knob twisting; all
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tailor-made by you, for your music.
Do I wish there was anything added to ValhallaDelay? Sure. I wish there was a Tap Tempo button
for times when I’m using it in a session that wasn’t tracked to a click (one of my favorite features
of the now-classic EchoBoy from SoundToys [Tape Op #62]), or I just want to tap and have it set
the time based on the beat division I’ve selected while being unlinked from the host clock. This
isn’t a deal-breaker, and I have apps on my phone where I can tap in a tempo and have it calculate

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the delay time for various beat divisions, but it would be handy in the plug-in itself.
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the architecture of the code for future expansion as new algorithms are developed. Without giving
anything away, there are many updates to ValhallaDelay planned in the pipeline to add even
greater value to the purchase – also, these updates have historically been provided free of charge.

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Yes, I’m biased, and think this is a stunning plug-in, as well as being an incredible value at
only $50. But even if I wasn’t involved in its development, I’d have purchased it the day of
release and would still be using it in every mix exactly as I do now because – for me – it’s the
right tool for the job. It’s a deep plug-in that doesn’t scare away the user with a convoluted and
confusing interface; it’s inviting rather than off-putting and doesn’t get in the way between your
ideas and their execution. There’s a fully functional demo available on the Valhalla site (it fades
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the output every 45 seconds, but won’t time-out on you), so do check it out!
($50 direct; valhalladsp.com) -Don Gunn <dongunn.com>
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Sony
C-100 microphone
Sony, widely known for their consumer entertainment products, takes pro audio very seriously.
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In the professional microphone market, Sony previously produced three remarkable


microphones: the C37A from the ‘50s became a staple for symphonic recording, the C38 (‘60s)

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and the C38B (2000s) known as wonderful vocal and piano microphones, and the iconic C-800G
(1990’s) revered as a very special vocal mic that has been featured on singers like Mariah Carey,
Eminem, and Alison Krauss. For the C-800G, Sony developed new technologies, specifically
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liquid Peltier cooling for its main tube and a dual-tube-rectified power supply. So when Sony
announced a new lineup of studio microphones this year, I was expecting something special.

is much larger
The C-100 is described as a high-resolution mic developed for vocals and critical instrument
recording. In short, it’s a condenser mic that features two newly developed capsules with a
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body that borrows some technology from the C-800G. The remarkable specification of the C-
100 is that its frequency response is quoted as ranging from 20 Hz to 50 kHz! This mic is aimed
at the high-end recording market, but is reasonably priced, whereas the C-800G fetches over
$10,000. The hi-res label placed on the C-100 infers that this mic is also suited for high sample
rate, audiophile recording applications.
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The C-100 uses two different capsules in tandem: one large, dual-sided condenser capsule, and
one smaller, single-sided electret condenser capsule. The idea behind the dual capsules is that the
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larger capsule captures full range audio frequencies while the smaller capsule captures frequencies
above 25 kHz. It may be debatable how much audio above 20 kHz humans can perceive but
capturing audio above 20 kHz certainly has some very practical merits. Even beyond high
frequency temporal effects, capturing ultra-high frequencies proves useful in sound design where
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impact down an octave, where the fundamental frequency may now be 1 kHz while still
retaining useful audio at 15 kHz or higher! This is a sound designer’s dream microphone.
The all-black microphone body is compact and lightweight, measuring about 7-inches high
and about 1.5-inches in diameter. The mic is packaged in a foam-lined Pelican-style case,
and includes a well-designed circular plastic mount that clamps firmly around the C-100’s
body. On the mic body are three switches; one for selecting between cardioid, omni, and bi-
directional patterns; one for employing a high-pass filter; and another for activating a -10
dB pad. Like all Sony products, the fit and finish of this mic and its accessories are first class
and inspire confidence in the quality and robustness of the product.
In cardioid mode the microphone’s frequency response reflects its intended use as a vocal
mic, with a flat midrange and slightly boosted highs around 10 kHz. The omni and bi-
directional settings provide a slightly flatter high frequency response, but retain a very slight
boost below 100 Hz. The high frequency capsule only picks up from the front side of the mic,
so for omni and bi-directional patterns you could expect the highest frequencies to be more
directional and slightly attenuated.
On both male and female vocals I found the mic to be very smooth, without any harshness
in the upper mids or sibilance in the high frequencies. I auditioned the mic on pop songs
and classical recitals. I especially liked the C-100 on the classical voices where it was placed
a few feet in front of and below the singer’s mouth. On pop songs, I used a generous amount
of EQ to open up the high frequencies in order to create a more “pop” sound. I wouldn’t

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describe the vocal sound as dull, but I would call it relaxed and natural, as opposed to
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Americana setting, but maybe a bit too nice for intense pop and rock vocals – then again,
it could be just the right trick for an overly sibilant or piercing voice.
I used a pair of the C-100s on a traditional Arabic classical record that I recorded at the
Evergreen Stage in Burbank at 176 kHz sample rate. Here I employed the mics on acoustic
guitar, oud, qanun, and violin. The guitar player remarked during the first playback that he
had never heard his guitar sound so good. I was pleased with the articulation, frequency,

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and dynamic response of the C-100 on all the instruments, and as a result will probably use
only minimal (if any) EQ during mixing for this project. Violin in particular is sometimes

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strident and difficult to close mic, but the C-100 presented a natural, well-balanced sound
for the instrument when placed about two feet above and slightly in front of the player’s
head. In my experience, the closest mics in sound to the C-100 on these instruments would

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be a Neumann KM 54/56, a KM 86i, or perhaps the Schoeps CMC 6 or Sennheiser MKH 800.
Though each of these mics have their own distinct tone, they all fall into the articulated,
slightly flattering, and almost never harsh category.
On grand piano I usually try a few different stereo setups, starting with an X/Y pair about
six inches above the hammers. On a particular Yamaha C7, this position proved too bright for
a solo piano recording though might have fit well in a dense pop production. The positioning
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that felt just right was a Blumlein arrangement just over the edge of the curve of the piano,
looking towards the middle of the strings. Here I found a perfect balance between articulation,
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size, and room ambience for a piano-featured pop song. On a studio upright piano, placing
the two C-100s in cardioid behind the piano with each one about a third of way from the sides
and 15 inches off the floor provided a wonderful and realistic piano presentation.
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The C-100 handled acoustic guitar well and, compared to both Neumann U 87s and AKG
C451s, the Sony produced a more balanced and “folky” sound rather than a mid-focused rock
‘n’ roll sound. A stereo pair of the C-100s, with one mic pointed at the 14th fret and one
pointed just below the bridge, produced a very realistic stereo image with balanced tone and
would work well for pop as well as classical recordings. On electric guitar amp, the C-100
easily handled extremely loud levels and produced an excellent sound when placed a few feet
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from the cabinet, pointing straight at the speaker.


Additionally, I used the C-100s for some field recordings, along with a Sound Devices
MixPre-6 recorder, and I would highly recommend this pairing for high sample rate location
recording for music performances, or for film and TV production. I found the C-100’s tone
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stayed consistent regardless of the preamps that I used, and even the battery powered
Sound Devices recorder had no problem providing phantom power to a pair of these mics.
Sony also produces a portable DSD recorder that would be an excellent pairing for the C-
100 microphones.
Overall, I would say that the C-100 is a natural sounding and accurate mic, without the
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typical low frequency colorations of many large diaphragm condensers. The C-100 would
quickly become a staple in any microphone collection and find a wide range of uses among
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even the most revered microphones. At $1399 street, the C-100 competes with mics well
over twice the price and will surely become a studio standard. In addition to the C-100,
Sony has also released the C-100U and C-100N, the C-100’s small diaphragm uni-directional
and non-directional cousins.
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($1399 street; pro.sony) -Adam Kagan <mixer.ninja>


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Arturia
3 Compressors You’ll Actually Use plug-in bundle
Hot on the heels of their affordable “You’ll Actually Use” plug-in bundle series featuring 3
Filters and 3 Preamps [Tape Op #125], here is Arturia’s latest batch of software effects: models
of the venerable UREI 1176, Gates STA-LEVEL, and dbx 165A compressors.
Installation was easy enough, although I found it faster to download and install the software
directly from Arturia’s website and then use Arturia’s Software Center (ASC) app to authorize the
plug-ins. The plug-ins (AAX, AU, VST 2, and VST 3) are 64-bit and CPU-friendly, with
skeuomorphic hi-res designs that mirror the hardware which they are modeled on but inflate
certain interface elements in service of better ergonomics. I liked the click-through tutorial
content that appeared after the first instantiation of each of the plug-ins – in just a few simple
steps I felt like I had unlocked a deeper understanding of how the plug-ins worked without even
cracking the manual. Why doesn’t every developer feature this?
These three plug-ins appear to be calibrated differently than some similar emulations when
under direct comparison. Notably, the FET-76 differs in my testing from the UAD version of the
UREI 1176, primarily in the input gain stage. Similar sonic results are easy enough to achieve,
but applying the same settings via the GUI of each plug-in yields different results. I’m not sure
why this is, but here again, I’m not looking (to either manufacturer) for a dead-accurate
recreation, as much as I’m looking for some degree of usability and unique character. The Arturia

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these Arturia versions are worthy of your consideration for many reasons. One, they sound
phenomenal – straightforward, yet meticulous – and each has undeniably authentic “vintage”
character. Two, the designs are purposeful and smart, with easily-accessible modern features
like multi-mode detection sidechaining options, and adjustable compression range settings. I
dig simple, time-saving tweaks like the ability to link input and output ratios. A colossal
differentiator here is the Time Warp parameter (available on the FET-76 and VCA-65

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compressors) that allows you to manipulate the compression envelope, allowing for greater
control over transients. I found that a slight nudge of this knob towards Snap or Loose made

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a massive difference in the character of more extreme compression settings. It’s those simple
controls leading to new sonic discoveries that keep these plug-ins in the, “Hmm, let’s try
THIS” shortlist. Yes, we will actually use these; a lot. A crazy bargain at this price! ($199 street,
$99 individually; arturia.com)
-Dana Gumbiner <danagumbiner.com>

The Bakersfield Sound (book)


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Robert E. Price
The children of Dust Bowl migrants who’d resettled to Southern California in search of farm
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and oil production jobs redefined their cultural significance (c. 1951) and fostered a music
scene born from the worker’s camps, dance halls, and dive bars in and around the Bakersfield,
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California area. These first-generation Californians, often referred to as Oakies, spent their
evenings and hard-earned cash dancing, drinking, and fighting to a soundtrack of local
musicians performing their unique, displaced brand of country music that would ring in the
golden age of honky-tonk.
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In Robert E. Price’s The Bakersfield Sound, we learn that Buck Owens had more number
one hits than The Beatles, but before that we get his theory on what sonically might
define the Bakersfield sound: the ‘50s Fender Telecaster guitar. At that time, this cheap
bolt-on neck electric guitar was not a fixture in most Nashville recordings. Price purports
that the Telecaster introduced an iconic harmonic signature in many Bakersfield artists’
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recordings by providing a noticeable bite-y twang in spite of the arguably mellower, jazzier,
and traditionalist flavor heard in Nashville recordings of that time. Buck Owens, Merle
Haggard – and later Dwight Yoakam – are obviously the more popular names we attribute
to Bakersfield, but the importance and influence of Roy Nichols (the “Chicken Picker”),
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Don Rich, Bonnie Owens, "Lefty" Frizzell, Gene Moles, Billy Mize, Rose Maddox, and many
others are also covered here.
The Bakersfield Sound is a documentation, study, and field guide to this once burgeoning
music scene in the middle of California’s forgotten nowhere (between Los Angeles and Las
Vegas). As laid out in historical anecdotes, articles, and references, Robert E. Price
(columnist for the Bakersfield Californian) educates us on the history of Bakersfield’s music
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scene while at the same time arguing its impact on American music in general – expertly
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supported and endorsed with a thoughtful foreword from country music icon Marty Stuart.
But this book isn’t just about country music. The Bakersfield Sound breaks down a “perfect
storm” scenario of how a music scene comes together, flourishes, and then dies –
accompanied by analysis and theories that try to explain the music scene phenomenon and
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American art movements in general. It’s this recurring secondary theme that kept me
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TASCAM
Model 24 Multitrack Recorder, USB Interface,
& Analog Mixer
Extensive Notes, Appendix, and Bibliography sections prepared by the author are all My first impression of the TASCAM Model 24 was of the classic design. From the red,
executed in the manner of a well-written history textbook, and I found it important during blue, and orange Gain, EQ, and Aux knobs, to the faux wood sides, this is a classy-
my read to be able to quickly gain context on certain subjects. The book doesn’t unravel as looking piece of gear. It wouldn’t look out of place among the classic cassette
a story about any single performer – it’s really a collection of published articles and papers multitrack recorders that TASCAM was famous for. The line of succession from the late
presented as a historical reference guide that slowly builds a case for Bakersfield’s importance ‘70s TEAC 144, the first cassette 4-track ever released, to the present day Model 24 is
in American music history. The Bakersfield Sound doesn’t cover recording processes or studio now complete. It’s beautifully retro, while providing all the comforts of a modern 24-
techniques, but for music enthusiasts and history buffs, it’s a key guide to have in your library. track digital audio workstation. This is a piece of gear that can fit into a wide variety
A favorite chapter of mine, called “Landmarks,” includes a written tour guide of historical of recording situations. Let’s dive in!
locations to visit accompanied by playlist suggestions from the author. Though I did not visit The Model 24 is primarily a great sounding analog mixer with the convenience of an
Bakersfield during reading, I did download and purchase many of Price’s suggestions to play all-in-one digital multitrack track recorder (via built-in SD card) that also functions as
while reading – “They’re Tearin’ the Labor Camps Down” by Merle Haggard definitely an interface by pairing easily with your DAW. The channel strips are analog, but with
transported me! At times I would’ve liked to see more pictures – especially of the clubs where both USB and Bluetooth connectivity, and built-in digital effects (like reverb, delay,
artists performed, but the book implies on many occasions that the best way to get a handle chorus, and flange) it offers the best of both worlds. Using the SD card (not included)
on the history of Bakersfield’s music is to listen to the music and come visit – a crafty way you can record up to 22 tracks simultaneously, plus a stereo mix down track (in 16/24
to bring it back to the locals! There’s a wealth of additional information sources listed in the bit, 44.1/48 kHz, WAV format), and/or hook it up to a computer through the USB 2.0
book, and Bakersfield has its own Music Hall of Fame with regular events. port. I found that for my situation, someone who normally records track-by-track,

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($20; heydaybooks.com) -SM connecting it to my DAW via USB was both intuitive and complimentary. With four
stereo and 12 mono channels, the Model 24 is perfect for those looking to either put
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together a live rig or introduce an analog desk/multitrack into their home studio (at 22
possible by our lbs. it can easily be moved to accommodate both situations). All 16 mic preamps have
advertisers. 50 dB of gain and feature 48V (global only) phantom power. The 12 mono channels
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control, and Aux sends for effects and monitor buses. Channels 1 and 2 have the most
features, with additional dedicated instrument and 1/4-inch TRS inputs. The four stereo

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EQs. Channels 21 and 22 offer a stereo input with both RCA and Bluetooth 4.0
Bonus & archived connectivity. And lastly, every channel offers PFL, and can be routed to the main Mix
bus or a single stereo Sub mix bus. At first, I didn’t really see why I would need the
reviews online! Bluetooth connection, but I soon discovered that it gave me the freedom to easily

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record tracks such as software drumbeats from my iPad to the Model 24 quickly – with
the added convenience of having one less cord hanging around. Each channel can be
set to one of three input sources: Live for signals coming from a mic or line source; USB
for sources coming from your computer; and MTR (monitor) for when you want to
playback sounds previously recorded to the SD card. All the inputs and outputs are
located on the face above each channel strip, making them super easy to access.
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During my first recording session, which featured a vocalist, acoustic and electric
guitar, synthesizer, bass, and the aforementioned Bluetooth-connected drum machine,
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I decided to use nothing but the onboard effects, EQ, and compression that the Model
24 offers while both tracking and mixing. I recorded straight to SD card, and then sent
the finished session via stereo outs to both analog tape and Logic Pro [Tape Op #74].
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I wanted a piece of music that represented what the Model 24 could do with no outside
influence, and at the end of the day I was really impressed by the results. The finished
product was sharp, focused, and musical – all without the help of a DAW – and the
finished track had a rawer feel to, it which I felt complimented the overall sound. This
process doesn’t work for everything, but it definitely inspired my workflow and was
super enjoyable. The included digital effects are adequate for most situations and will
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sound great when applied in a live setting (which I feel is really where they shine). I
found the reverbs to be especially pleasing when used in moderation. My main concern
was the one-knob compression, and how it would perform to suit certain sounds that
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I was going after while not having attack or release controls. I found it to be a very
versatile tool that adds a subtle taming of transients in a vocal performance, or a heavy-
handed compression style that sounded awesome on synth bass. The compression is
represented via green LED lights, and may take some testing in order to get a feel for
it, but once I got accustomed to the character I felt confident to let my ears decide
how much was required. It was refreshing to be able to grab real control knobs instead
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of having to use plug-ins. At the end of the session I made great use of the stereo
seven-band graphic EQ on the main hardware output, and had a complete mixed track
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in just 20 minutes. This EQ can also be assigned to the monitor outputs as well, so
along with the ability to use it as a mixing board during a live show while
simultaneously recording the tracks to SD card, it makes Model 24 a handy live tool.
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Lastly, I wanted to see how the Model 24 performed as If you’re thinking, “Blah blah blah, buzz words!” then
Gear Geeking w/ Andy… an analog summing mixer. I took a previously-recorded don’t read the manual for this plug-in! It’s like reading
After reading Tom Fine’s informative review of the Mini
track done totally in the box and, using only a low pass the Instagram comments from a millennial influencer’s
Maglite Pro [Tape Op #130], I realized that it’s been a while
filter, ran the mix through the Model 24, then back into wedding post (note: I’m a millennial). But how does El
since I’ve talked about flashlights. My favorite task light is the
Logic. The subtle glue and depth this process added really Rey sound? Excellent!
Bosch FL12 Max LED Worklight <boschtools.com>, because
complemented the mix, and after some A/B comparisons Using El Rey is pretty straightforward. You’ve got Input
it offers a wide spread of evenly distributed light, and its
I preferred the summed version – something I hadn’t gain, Threshold, five fixed Attack and Release settings
built-in magnet and carabiner-like clip make it easy to
often experienced with my current mixer and setup. The (ranging from “slow” to “fast”), Make Up gain, a Dry/Wet
mount — with plenty of articulation for pointing the light
build quality of the Model 24 is fantastic (especially the knob, a sidechain filter (ranging from 50 to 250 Hz).
where you need it. But it does require an investment in a
100 mm faders), and I felt like I was working on a board They’ve also included a cool Auto Gain switch, which allows
Bosch 12 V battery and charging system [#102]. I also have
two times its price. you to drive the Input of the plug-in while inversely
a couple beautifully engineered, but relatively expensive
I make music primarily by myself, while occasionally reducing the output gain so there is no perceived volume
penlights [#85] in my toolbox. Unfortunately, penlights are
recording live shows in cramped Brooklyn clubs, and this change. This is useful when trying to dial in compression
like pens; they’re often borrowed and never returned.
is a desk more than suited to any project that might tones without being tricked into thinking louder is better.
Therefore, over the years, I’ve purchased a bunch of affordable
come my way. I feel the Model 24 is perfect for those My initial reaction when loading up El Rey on a female
compact flashlights for my studio and home, and my current
looking to own a vintage-inspired mixer/recorder without lead vocal track was how smooth it sounded and reacted
favorite is the UltraFire SK68 Single-Mode Tactical LED
having to apply for a loan. I’d say TASCAM has made when getting 12 to 15 dB of gain reduction. With the
Flashlight <ultrafire.com>, which I buy in three-packs for
another future classic! (tascam.com; $899 street) Attack set to medium-fast and the Release set to
$11.49. Like so many products sold on Amazon, lookalikes are
-Jay Ribadeneyra <johnjay26@gmail.com> medium-slow, I was reminded of how the Retro
available under countless brand-names, but I’ve had the best
luck with UltraFire — zero duds so far. The switches in Acustica Audio Instruments 176 Limiter Amplifier [#66] (my go-to when

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mixing or tracking at Jackpot! Recording Studio) sounds
particular, which seem to be the most common failure point, El Rey plug-in on vocals but with a little more grit. You can slam this
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The debate between hardware versus plug-ins has plug-in without really getting any ugly grabbing or
version of the SK68 turns on and turns off — and that’s it. cooled over the last couple years as plug-ins are getting pumping artifacts, and it remains musical even in
There are no SOS or crazy-blinking modes to frustrate you better and better. However, Acustica Audio seems happy extreme settings. Next, I tried El Rey on a bus consisting
when all you want is a steady light. The projector-beam lens to stoke the fires with their El Rey compressor plug-in, of about ten cello tracks. My biggest challenge when
slides forward and back in a simple one-handed operation — gaining a lot of attention and buzz for rivaling its tube working with large cello sections, is being able to control
no awkward twisting required — and the beam can be hardware inspiration. Developed in conjunction with the booming low end while letting higher melody lines

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focused from a wide, evenly distributed circle, to a laser-tight producer/engineer Greg Wells [Tape Op #123], the El Rey cut through without being harsh. I was extremely happy
image of the LED chip itself. At maximum zoom, I can easily compressor was meticulously modeled after the famous with how well the El Rey held things together while still

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spot birds in trees 500 ft away, when I power the flashlight RCA BA-6A Limiting Amplifier. Greg’s goal was to create allowing the dynamics of the arrangement to move – the
with a single 3.7 V Li-ion cell. I use an EBL Protected 14500 a mixing “secret weapon” that would provide analog filter on the sidechain works great in these scenarios!
Li-ion Rechargeable 800 mAh Battery <eblmall.com>, weight and body to a single track or even the mix bus. It wasn’t until I strapped El Rey on my drum bus that I
which I charge with a four-channel MiBoxer C4 Smart
Charger <miboxer.com>, in each of my “keeper” SK68 lights.
In the SK68s that might walk, I use a regular 1.5 V AA
alkaline battery; there’s less light output, but more than
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raving about. With a medium attack, fast release, and the
filter set to about 100 Hz, I noticed an instant thickness to
the drums. The same can be said when used on a bass track.
enough for looking behind racks, inside guitar amps, or
The squishy reaction of the compressor gives the low end a
whatnot. The SK68s have proven themselves durable; they’ve
rich tone that fills things out in a mix without getting
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muddy. The vibe and sound it emits are retro enough that I
rinses in the sink after night fishing. If I had to complain
probably won’t find myself reaching for it on pop drums, but
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about anything, it would be the SK68’s spring clip; the clip


it has already become one of my favorite compressors to use
has so much tension that it’s hard to slide onto the pockets
on electric or upright bass and both male and female vocals.
of clothing or nylon tool bags. On the upside, the clip is
El Rey uses a sampling technology “based on the
replaceable, and because it has so much tension, you can slip
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Vectorial Volterra Kernel Series” which allows Acustica Audio


a keyring underneath it without fear of the ring sliding out.
to faithfully sample the hardware at all input stages and
••• Speaking of keyrings, clips, clothing, and bags, if you’re
settings, thus recreating a perfect tridimensional response
like me, you probably use carabiners to clip things to other
of how audio passes through a piece of gear (including
things. I love my dual-gate Nite Ize S-Biners [Geeking #95]
phase variations and quirks of the hardware at all
for attaching keys and other smaller items, and I also have
frequencies, all dynamically represented). They also sample
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Nite Ize carabiner-lanyards on various lightweight cases for in-


harmonic distortion variations as well. Perhaps due to this
ear monitors, iLoks, etc. For larger items, I prefer the Black
technology, El Rey seems to require more system resources
Diamond Hoodwire Carabiner <blackdiamondequipment.com>.
than I expected – I started getting CPU usage alerts after
Yes this made-for-climbing carabiner has a 24 kN closed-gate
loading about five stereo instances of the plug-in. My only
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rating and CE 0333 certification, and yes that’s utter overkill


other critique is that the controls lag a bit on my system,
for attaching a water bottle to my backpack, or my eyeglass
making it hard to perform a smooth bypass of the plug-in
case to a belt loop; but the Hoodwire has one killer feature
to A/B your compressed verses non-compressed signals.
that makes it better than any other wire-gate carabiner. A
Other than that, this is a fantastic tool that really does
patented, stainless-steel “hood” around its hook prevents this
sound thicker than almost all other compressors in my plug-
carabiner from snagging, and both the gate and the hood
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utilize wire that’s been precision-shaped to mate perfectly
job of reining in dynamic instruments, and really glues a
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every time. The Hoodwire, and its smaller Oz and larger


mix together. I highly recommend downloading their free
LiveWire siblings, are the only truly snag-free wire-gate
trial version of El Rey to see for yourself! Special thanks go
carabiners I’ve ever used — in any of my indoor geeking
out to Aaron Hellam <hellamsound.com> for bringing this
endeavors or outdoor sporting expeditions. A six-pack of
plug-in to our attention.
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Hoodwires costs $60. –AH


(€269 direct; acustica-audio.com)
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Letting the Process Happen
by Larry Crane

I don’t remember a time while growing up when there wasn’t clay, glaze, and kilns in my
house. My mother had studied art when I was a baby, and she began producing a series
of decorative and useful ceramic items in the ‘60s while we lived in Oakland, and later in
the Nevada County foothills of California. She had a distributor in San Francisco who would
order these pieces by the gross (144), and several friends of hers served as employees when
the orders came in and the workload increased. Even my dad would take a bag of clay on
his work voyages as a Merchant Marine and make beads or such to bring home later to finish
off. Part of the process of working with this material involves firing the once pliable clay in
the kiln, after making sure the moisture has dissipated. For the type of clay my mom used,
the pieces would go through an initial bisque firing in the kiln and then glazed – where a
substance is fused onto the surface of the ceramics in the next kiln firing.

Applying glaze to ceramics is an interesting process, and that’s what I want to focus on here.
Most glazes, unlike paint, don’t appear anything like their final color when they are applied.

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main firing. Artists learn to predict, through learning from others, testing, and trial and error,
what a glaze will do during the firing process. One of the most exciting parts of working in
ceramics is opening the kiln (gradually, over time, so the pieces don’t crack from rapid
temperature change) and seeing how everything turned out. Glazes may run together and
create new colors. One piece might collapse onto another and fuse into something quite
unintended. If glass or metal has been used in the art, it will have melted and reformed in

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The artist has to let go. The process of making the art will sometimes be taken out of the
When making any art, control
artist’s hands for a moment.
should always be a variable. Complete control can lead to
stagnation, with the artist closed off from new, accidental ideas. The vision we all have
for a recording project can turn out to be far different from the final result at
times, and that can be okay. Control and predictable results are only small
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and ideas is important.
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Behind The Gear


Avedis Kifedjian
efficient. I learned to work on API modules. I
wanted to make my own op-amp, because Brent was
running out of 2520s, and I didn’t want to buy old
This Issue’s Overlord of Op-Amps 2520s. After months of working on it, I made a
by John Baccigaluppi discrete op-amp; Brent liked it and I got to update
the 312A mic pre with some improvements. Then I
designed a 500 Series EQ that eventually became the
E27. It was actually the first 500 Series EQ that had
a transformer-balanced input and output. Older API
550As were unbalanced on their inputs and the
other modules, like the 554, 560, 550A1 had
electronically-balanced inputs. At the time, the 500
Series was not popular. There was only API, Brent
Averill, and me with the new EQ who were making
Part of my job with Tape Op is to work as an intern at Grandmaster Recorders in
500 Series modules.
talking with our advertisers, and I Hollywood. That was when I first saw a Neve console
To backtrack a little bit, at any point did
particularly enjoy talking with the and met Geoff Tanner [Neve expert at Aurora Audio].
you go to school or anything? Or are
smaller, boutique audio makers. Of Working there as an intern was great, and I learned a
you totally self-taught?
that group, Avedis Kifedjian is one lot because it was an old, well-used studio and a lot

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I’m self-taught. The only electronics class I had was in
of my favorite people to chat with. of equipment needed fixing. If you really want to
the eighth grade. We used to make buzzers and little
learn as an intern, it’s best work in a studio that’s not

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I have to be careful with Avedis, as motors and have practical jokes in class.
our conversations can stretch into an so perfect. I was in heaven because I could take these
Did you at any point decide that you
hour before I know what happened to things apart and try to learn them. I’d work on
needed to learn theory and start to
the time, and my head ends up microphones, headphones, power amps, guitar amps,
dig into electronics texts?
bursting with new knowledge. Avedis and the Neve 8028 console with Geoff. He would
Oh, yeah. I have a lot of books on the subject. You still
is a smart guy, with equal measures hand me a schematic and a bad amp board and say,

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gotta learn the engineering and try to understand it.
of knowledge and experience that not “Here, fix this.” Or he would draw up a schematic with
I did go to college, and I took math to figure some
too many people can match. I figured the power supply, hand it to me, and I’d have to build

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things out. It’s not just by experience – it’s
it was time to chat with him on the it. I had a skateboard at the studio because it was
textbooks as well.
record, so we met up at his shop in easier to get around in Hollywood, so I’d skate down
So, the only school you did was the math
his dad’s garage in Tujunga, to Yale Electronics [on Sunset Blvd.] and pick up
to self-study the electronics?
California.

So how did you get started doing this?


components. David Langford worked at Yale; he was
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Geoff’s boss from back in their Neve days and I’d ask
him questions about my Neve projects. It was funny,
Yeah. There are many applications to things, like Ohm’s
Law, and knowing math certainly helps because you
need to manipulate formulas to make the circuit
It started with cars. When I was 13 years old I was as these two really smart guys would try to correct
work. There’s only so much guesswork you can do if
fascinated with cars and how they worked with the each other’s Neve knowledge with their sense of
you don’t work out the numbers. I’d study various
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mechanical and electrical systems. I bought my first humor. When I worked at Grandmaster, I wasn’t really
schematics and think of how it works. I would take
car when I was 14 for $250 and would constantly to into being an assistant engineer, so I found ways to
notes and eventually build an experiment to try new
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take things apart, clean it, and put it back together. keep busy in the tech shop. The studio manager,
ideas. There was a lot of failure, but I’m stubborn so
There was still music on the radio and that was when Jeorgia Anderson, who had originally hired me as an
I just kept trying. I’ve come back to projects and
MTV played nothing but music videos. It was music intern, brought Wade in to take my place as an
prototypes I started years ago.
and muscle cars every day throughout my teenage assistant and they put me to work with Geoff full-
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So, you basically self-educated yourself,


years. My brother and I would listen to all kinds of time. We’d work on various projects and would service
as opposed to tinkering and figuring
records, which were often just given to us from Neve consoles in L.A. We even traveled to the Middle
out things without really learning
someone who didn’t want them. I was always East to modify a Shep console. Looking back, I was
the theory behind it?
fascinated with the sound. I’d listen to records and fortunate to be there, and I knew it; but I had to get
Right; I try to learn the theory while I’m tinkering. The
say, “That sounds cool. How’d they do it?” I was a consistent paying job, so I worked at Guitar Center.
good thing about tinkering is that if you get stuck
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playing the guitar by ear and didn’t know the chords That only lasted a month or so. That’s when Wade
on a problem, you can hit the textbooks and learn
I was making. I wanted to record myself, but I didn’t [Goeke of Chandler Limited, then working at Brent
about that particular subject. Get stuck on enough
know anybody who had a studio. When I was 18 years Averill] saw me there and said, “What are you doing
problems and there’s a lot of potential to learn.
old, I saved up and got a Tascam 4-track cassette here? Come work at Brent’s!” I knew him from when
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Linear power supplies are a great way to start. It’s a


recorder. I didn’t have any good mics, but I realized he was working at a studio up the street from
great way to learn about components such as
that I could just use my headphones backwards. I Grandmaster, and he told me he was working at Brent
transformers, diodes, caps, regulators and how they
would plug the headphones into the mic input, place Averill’s [which Brent eventually sold; it morphed into
work together. It’s not always as difficult as it seems
it on the guitar body, and record. Then I’d plug it back BAE Audio].
when you break it down. I don’t love electronics. I
and listen; it sounded a little boomy, but it worked. I So, both you and Wade were working love music. I just do electronics to get music to
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was going to college with no real direction as to what together at Brent’s? sound the way I like. I never thought of myself as
to do, and I was working full-time at a job I didn’t We did, but only for the first week or so. When I met
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an electrical engineer or anything like that.


enjoy. By 1995, I thought I’d follow what I really Brent for the first time in 1999, he hired me on the
You seem like one of the smarter guys in
loved with music and recording so I went to school at spot when he found out that I knew how to build
the industry about electrical
the Recording Workshop in Ohio, and after months the difficult three-deck Neve gain switch. Brent’s
engineering. Do you still play music?
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Yeah, I play guitar just about every day, and now You want to use epoxy though, right? related to this topology, except that I use small Class
especially, with my baby. It seems to catch his Because it actually helps it heats up A amps instead of ICs, and I use the 1122 op-amps for
attention. I can see he loves music, too. evenly. If it’s just the components boost/cut, as well as for the output-stage driver
So, the first product was the op-amp, open to the air, that presents a through a Jensen output transformer. Plus, there’s a
right? different set of problems? Jensen input transformer and another Class A amp, so
Yes, the first product was the op-amp that I originally made It does, but it depends on the op-amp design. You have if the transformer sees the load it likes, and the EQ
to fix older API modules. The 1122 op-amp also helped to thermally couple some of the diodes to the circuit sees the source impedance it likes, it’s a happy
me come up with ways to use it in my own designs. transistors so that when the transistors warm up, it unit. This allows more freedom for the filter EQ part of
Tell me about your op-amp and the warms up the diodes that are biasing them in a kind- the circuit to add its characteristic sound. The API 554
design of your op-amp. It’s not just a of thermal relationship. In un-potted op-amps, you is a state-variable EQ, using three IC op-amps for each
copy of a 2520, right? sometimes see some components glued to each other band, with capacitors, to change your tuning. It
No, but I had to learn how the 2520 was designed and for this reason. sweeps around instead of locking into a specific
certainly drew from it. I looked into what circuit After the op-amp, what came next? The frequency. It’s versatile, but it causes more phase shift,
designers may have used as reference in some mic pre, or the EQ? and, coupled with the series of IC op-amps, your signal
engineering books from the ‘60s and ‘70s. Early After the op-amp, Brent wanted to use it in a 312 is passing through, [and that] results in that very EQ’d
transistorized op-amps were first made by George preamp. So, I redesigned it with some improvements sound. I like it sometimes, and on certain problematic
Philbrick and his company [George A. Philbrick and that became the 312A. I made adjustments to frequencies, it can squeeze into tight spaces in a nice
Researches, GAP/R]. They were also the first to put the pad impedance and gain, and I exclusively used way and solve issues. Many parametric EQs are also the
them in a 1-inch square modular box, as early as Jensen transformers. I remember drawing up the same topology, with some variation – lots of control

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the different variations over the years. I was even <tapeop.com/reviews/gear/45/bae-312a-mic-preamp/> phase shift. Another rule to keep in mind: when we see

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lucky enough to talk to [API co-founder] Saul Walker Then I decided to experiment because I wanted an an EQ shelving curve, we don’t call it by the frequency
at an AES show about it one time. That was a equalizer, but I didn’t want to copy the 550A. So, I point where it peaks, but where it’s down −3 dB. So,
fascinating conversation I’ll never forget. He’s a real found a topology that I liked and tested some with a Neve 1073 high-frequency at 12 kHz, that’s
engineer. When I built my first 2520-style op-amps, I frequencies and the Q [frequency bandwidth] going where it’s supposed to be, theoretically speaking, down
tried experimenting and took notes with small all the way to 28 kHz. I still have the working −3 dB, which means its effect will be greater at higher

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changes I made. I retested it over and over. Brent prototype. That became the first EQ I made, which frequencies. With a bell curve, two −3 dB points are
really liked the op-amp. That was really important, was really different than anything else out there. It taken at the sides of the peak, and this determines the

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because he was stressing the circuit in various ways used similar amps that you’d find in an API 550A, . If you divide the peak frequency by the bandwidth of
to see if it would fail. He said, “This works really well. but it used a filter design with characteristics you’d the −3 dB points, the result will be the Q number. For
We should make it.” So, I showed him how I made it; find in an inductor-based design, like a Neve or a example, if you’re EQ’ing at 2 kHz peak, and the −3 dB
he hired another tech to try and make it for him, but Calrec. That was the earlier model E15. I quickly points are at 1000 Hz and 3000 Hz, then bandwidth
it didn’t work for whatever reason. It’s just hard to
make a discrete op-amp with all those components in E27 which we still make today.
a 1-inch square. Brent came back to me and said, <tapeop.com/reviews/gear/121/e27-500 Series-eq/>
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added more frequencies to it and that became the is 2 kHz. Divide peak frequency by bandwidth, and you
get Q = 1. If bandwidth was narrower, you’d have a Q
higher than 1; with a wider bandwidth, Q would be
“You’ve already done this; why don’t you make it? I’ll Older Neve modules have an active Baxandall and an active smaller than 1. The guys who bought the first E27’s
just buy them from you if you promise to sell it to me LCR-type equalizer. The Baxandall just makes use of were some rappers in L.A. because they liked the big
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name for your company?” I’m very thankful for his share the same card inside – the B205 (or B180 in G, who came in to buy something else at Brent’s shop
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support, and for the company name idea. older 1066 modules). An LCR circuit is used in the MF and saw my EQs there in the 500 Series rack. He was
You mentioned to me that you went with the B211 card (or B181 in 1066 modules). Inside asking me about prices, and I said, “Well, these EQs are
through a lot of experimenting with of most electronics textbooks, you’ll see mention of . $750 each,” [which was the introductory price at the
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the epoxy, or whatever the compound = inductance, = capacitance, and = resistance. If you time]. He said, “No, just this little thing (pointing to
is that houses it. Can you tell us about put the three together, with some feedback around the E27). Not the whole rack.” I said, “It’s $750.” He
that aspect? either a discrete or IC-based amplifier, then you can said, “Just for that? Are you kidding me? Why?” And I
The epoxy that I first used was really hard and it tune to a frequency. The API 550A uses a twin-T filter. had to tell him it had discrete components, as opposed
caused problems. When components warm up, they It’s a way of super-tuning, using resistors, capacitors, to ICs. and nice transformers. Plus it had expensive
need to move a little bit. The small diodes are and feedback around a discrete op-amp. It can sound custom rotary switches, custom knobs, etc., and it all
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made out of glass, and you can’t cement them in. very nice and clear. I would think it’s great for costs more to manufacture. He ended up buying the
That caused some op-amps to go bad early on. I mastering, as long as you had all the frequencies and whole rack. From there, I got more guys coming in
quickly learned that I needed to change boost/cut steps you need. Not as colored as you’d think asking for the same thing. That really helped me out
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something, because you can’t fix a potted op-amp – but the coloration will come from the other early on because there wasn’t enough demand for 500
once it goes bad. It’s a big waste of time and components, such as the op-amp interacting with the Series, so I’m very grateful for that.
money if you don’t get it right in the first place. I output transformer, each with their own limitations. I think I was one of your earlier
started using a softer epoxy. I learned that from The API 560 graphic EQ uses a type of active gyrator customers.
John Hardy [Tape Op #15], actually. He uses it in filter, using IC op-amps for each frequency, and another Yeah. 12 years?
his 990, and he was kind enough to share that info Over a decade ago! They’re just so
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use today. It’s softer, and it’s thermally conductive 2520 and even the output transformer (optionally), and Servicing a lot of vintage gear over the years taught me
so the op-amp warms up evenly. You don’t have hot put in a couple of push-pull transistors instead. I like a lot about component failure and reliability, and I’m
spots in there, and it allows the components to it, and it does have a certain sound and characteristic thankful to have worked on so much broken gear early
flex. It’s simple, but it’s a big deal. that’s different than the 550A. The is somewhat on. It feels good to design equipment that’s reliable.
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It’s probably more work if you have to the Rhodes is similar to that of a guitar pickup. We a console to put in there. They asked me about
service it too. tested unbalanced outputs of the Farfisa and the leasing my console, and I said, “Sure. Get this thing
It is. The shipping and servicing end up wasting time that Juno-60 which had an output impedance 2,000 out of my house, please!” My wife was really happy.
could have been productive for the client, and for us. ohms. That’s pretty high, but it works well with the [laughs] So, it’s there now, and I’m happy to see it
So, what came next? KeyPre. There’s a lot more variability in electronic being used every day. It’s rare for a 45-year old Neve
The MA5 preamp, because my friend asked if it was instruments than for microphones. Most microphones console to have everything working; but, with
possible to have a Class A amplifier like a Neve Class are about 150 to 300 with some older ribbons being regular maintenance, it seems like everything is
A, but to put that in a 500 Series format. That was lower, like 30 to 50 ohms. But with electronic working and it sounds really good. All these years I
an interesting challenge to make it work on bipolar instruments they are all over the place. The KeyPre’s had the console, I really hadn’t heard it until it was
16 volts, giving a 32-volt potential instead of the input impedance is an optimized 48 kilohms and will in Sound City. The old custom JBL far-field monitors
original 24 volts. You have more voltage, so there’s happily interface with all of it. You certainly don’t they had in storage were found and put back in, and
more headroom. I remember what Bill Whitlock of want to bottleneck your sound going through a DI. they sound amazing.
Jensen Transformers [Tape Op #104] would say – That was the purpose of making the KeyPre. It took How often do you have to go in and do
electrons don’t read schematics – so, with that in me about a year to find the right combination of maintenance? Do you deal with
mind, I designed the circuit the way I thought it input and output stages. anything else besides the Neve
would work best. That became the MA5; it was really So, a DI, especially a passive one, will console, or does your responsibility
successful and proved to be ultra-reliable. After that mess with the impedance and change end at that console?
we made the MD7, which is kind of like the op-amp the frequency response? I’ve got a lot of outboard gear there as well, so it’s those
based API 312 / 512 world, but it’s got a send and A passive DI will put your sound through a transformer, things and the Neve console. That’s really it.

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return, stepped gain, and no input pad because I so it depends on the quality of the transformer. There Maintaining it. Cleaning switches, cleaning contacts.
don’t like how an input pad can weaken the sound are only a few transformer manufacturers that know You don’t have to worry about any gear

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before you get to the input transformer. how to make a good-sounding DI transformer. But, that’s not yours?
<tapeop.com/reviews/gear/116/md7-500 Series-mic- due to physical and electronic limitations with Right, I only maintain the gear that’s mine, which is a
preamp-pedal-interface/> winding transformers, your input impedance cannot lot of vintage and some new outboard gear. I’d rather
I haven’t used these, but I remember we be as high as an active input DI would be. You can see it be used than to sit here. Plus, I have access to
reviewed them. get about 150 kilohms, but never as high as 1 it if I need it. Blake and Tony have a lot of great
megaohm, which is what you need for things like instruments and amps, and they have their own very

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nowadays. I designed a lot of gear for BAE Audio – Bottlenecking what, exactly? I guess what I’m asking is: is this an
like the 10DCF compressor, the 1023, and the A lot of times, you’re going through a small capacitor active relationship, or is it just like,
1073MPF – that share similarities to older gear but placed to protect the input stage of the DI, and “Send me my check at the end of the
weren’t really clones of anything. I want to keep capacitors naturally act like high-pass filters, month!”
learning, so I’m always interested in going in a
different direction. Now we’re making an electronic
instrument preamp called the KeyPre. I didn’t know
bottlenecking your bandwidth and causing some
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phase shift. It may be fine for the guitar or bass, but
electronic instruments can have a much wider range
No, I’m there as needed, and I can use the space myself
as needed to test things out. If we need to take
something there to test and evaluate it, we can. It’s
about the world of keyboards and synths. I didn’t and need to plug into something that has a really nice that they’re very supportive of new things
think about it as much until someone came by our frequency response wider than itself so you don’t lose that come out of here.
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I soon learned that keyboards had different output You lose a lot of the bottom-end. Yeah, they’ve been great and I’m happy working with
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impedances, different levels, and different ways of You lose a lot of the details on the very low-end. A lot them. I was just there listening to one of Blake’s
interfacing with balanced and unbalanced. So why of keyboards can have notes with very low tracks they’d recently done, and it sounded
are most of us using a DI to interface keyboards, frequencies. unbelievable.
synths, and drum machines? It didn’t make any sense Tell me a little bit about your most Both those guys are super-talented,
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to me. I studied a bunch of electronic instruments recent venture at Sound City. What super nice people.
that my friends had; I made the KeyPre so that it are you doing over there, and how did Yes, they are. Tony’s got Studio B with his vintage API
interfaced nicely with all of them. that come about? console in there. It always makes me happy every
Anything you throw at it keyboard-wise, Well, I’ve had a Neve console since 2000, sitting here in time I go to Sound City. I love seeing the progress of
it’s gonna handle it? this garage for the last 18 years. We didn’t have a the studio, as well as seeing the dedication and hard
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It will handle it. Balanced or unbalanced, with any line place for it. After the Sound City movie came out, a work of the entire staff.
level and with any sub low-frequency you can friend of mine said, “Don’t you have a Neve console What’s next for you?
throw at it so you get the full bandwidth of your sitting in your garage? Why don’t you do something We have a box called the TransDrive, which can house a
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instrument through. with it? Let’s make it work.” I wanted to work on it variety of different audio transformers so you can put
Some synths have super-hot outputs. at night, so I thought to take it to my house half a your audio through it to get that nice transformer
They’re almost line level. mile away from here. I asked my wife if it was okay fingerprint on your tracks.
Yeah. Sometimes you don’t need extra gain, so you can to have the Neve in our house for a while, and she I remember seeing that at NAMM.
set the KeyPre at unity or less and get that nice, said it was. She didn’t realize it was a 9-foot long I love comng into work, building prototypes, and
balanced output. console that ended up in the middle of our living working on new things. There’s got to be a
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impedance things, like a passive together, and tested all the channels. It was already gear beyond the 500 Series gear in our future.
Rhodes electric piano? in great condition, for something made in 1973. How do you balance the, “I love to make
It should be able to with 32 dB of gain, but for that I’d Then my friend, Bryan McCurry, turned me on to new things” side with the, “Damn,
use the DI input of the MD7 which has a higher input Blake Mills [Tape Op #115] and Tony Berg [#121]. I’ve got to run a business and keep
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impedance of 10 M (megaohms) since the output of They wanted to lease Sound City and were looking for things moving out the door” side?
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That’s been the biggest challenge in my life. And, also, how do you balance it with
family time as well? That’s been really tricky. It’s just been whatever’s the priority
that week, that’s what we have to do. But, I’d say coming into work, what I really
enjoy doing is building new gear. I love to come in and work on prototyping
things, getting stuck on the prototype, being able to think about it overnight,
coming back to work the next morning, figuring it out, and getting stuck on the
next problem. Problem-solving is what I really enjoy. I don’t find as much
enjoyment from doing service and repair work, which I never really did, except
for friends and close clients, but it’s not that fun for me. I’m not learning
anything new.
What about distribution and marketing? Who else works
here, besides you, Jeff [Watson], and your dad?
My wife helps with accounting, and I have some friends who come in and help me
out as needed.
So, the full-timers are you, Jeff, and your dad?
Yeah.
Does Jeff handle more of the business stuff?
He does. He takes care of a lot of the orders, and I take care of the technical side of
things. Jeff definitely takes care of all of the business side of things.
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Sometimes we put pictures up on Instagram and Facebook of new and old vintage
gear, which is more educational than it is marketing. We put a lot of effort into
the design of our gear while trying out new things, then we figure out in the end
what we’re going to sell it for. Whereas, I think some larger companies start with
a budget and have to design backwards from that amount. Nowadays, you don’t
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your company logo and place a large order. It’s not that one’s right and the other
is wrong, because everyone is trying to find their place in the audio market.
Is everything more or less made in southern California? I
assume you’re not making circuit boards here?
Yes, everything is made here, and our circuit boards are manufactured in Northern
California. All the boards get populated by my dad. My retired dad was a welder,
back in the day, who’d worked in off-shore oil platforms and the metal industry
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It’s a great help, and it works out for us. If we find out that something’s not
right, we can immediately get it fixed and move on from it. Part of the reason
why the gear is reliable is because of the attention to detail. Being a smaller
company, we can really see what’s going on at every step of the way, with every
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component. My dad’s been really helpful with it. Otherwise I’d have to outsource
it and get an assembly company to do it. And I’d probably have to deal with a
greater chance of errors, especially if they put our boards through a wave
soldering machine with the temperature too high, cooking the components and
shortening their life. The way that he solders it, the components don’t get heat-
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You had an accident when you were So much of what we have to do in the
Carving a Path Through the Wilderness young that affected your throat,
and you couldn’t talk for two years?
studio is to listen to music and to
what others are saying.
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interview and photos by Larry Crane Yeah, that’s right. In general, I think people take Even now, I have to force myself to keep my mouth
talking for granted and forget the importance of shut. It’s a challenge.
silence for so many facets of their growth and life. Amazingly, after many operations,
When I visited Nashville and interviewed
Whether you call it a blessing or a curse, it was you got your voice back. You started
Vance Powell [Tape Op #82] years ago, I met
given to me. I learned how to listen to the way doing music and playing as a
his buddy, Mitch Dane, who shared the
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things sound and how sounds are put together, songwriter and a singer, with a
Sputnik Sound studio space with him. Over the
but also how to listen to people and what they’re voice that’s limited. What were the
years Mitch and I have spent many hours
actually saying. circumstances?
hanging out, and his calm, focused demeanor
You were a teenager then, right? It was a weird situation. My doctor publicly said that
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and wise thoughts always inspired me.


Yeah. I remember my friends would take me to game it was a miracle that I could talk, so I started
I figured it was time to chat with this amazing,
rooms, put quarters in the jukebox, and play pool. getting these calls from churches saying, “We
Grammy award-winning producer and find out
I couldn’t talk, but I’d listen and play. It was fun heard that God did a miracle in your life. Can you
more about my friend.
for me, even though I couldn’t speak. come tell us about it?” They would ask if I’d sing
How were you interacting socially at a song, and it developed into a career of playing.
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that time, as far as communication? I performed at a lot of colleges, high schools, and
Well, I didn’t have a lot to say. When you break it youth camps. Through the process of doing that,
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down, you only have to say, “I’m hungry,” and “I I made my own records and sold them. I didn’t
have to go to the bathroom.” I learned to not have know much about the industry. I ended up
an opinion about where we’d eat or where we’d go. recording to MIDI, printing that to a DAT [digital
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I made my own tracks and sang on top of them. I or else it’s gone. Doing that led to another record Yeah, I would say so. I never was known as the Christian
had an [Akai] MPC60 that I used quite a bit; I loved with them, and then another. Just having my name “radio” guy. I think labels skirted around me. Most
the old soul and “Motown” drum loops. I on all these records, people started calling me up and artists really liked what I was doing and thought it
incorporated those with my acoustic guitar. asking me to help them. I’m very fortunate to have was vibe-y. There are some “label” records where I
Eventually I put in a little studio booth and had a worked with Jars of Clay. They helped me carve out a might do the six songs that aren’t the singles and
place in my garage that I worked out of. career, and I’m very thankful. have someone else do the singles. Whatever. That’s
Did other people start seeking you out to Did you continue to run Sputnik Sound fine. I do very little Christian music now. Not that I
record with? out of there for a number of years? don’t like Christians, [laughs] but Christian music has
Yeah. After a show, people would come up and ask how Yeah. I worked out of that basement for a good bit. become somewhat of a stylistic thing.
I got started. Occasionally they’d ask me to help Eventually they had to sell their house, so I took Which seems weird, in a way
them do a record. I didn’t take long to realize that the gear and moved into House of Blues Studios Yeah, it is very odd. I don’t particularly enjoy that
it’s really where I enjoyed the music; in the making with Jacquire King [Tape Op #88]. We were “style.” But there are a lot of artists who come to
of it. Less of the performance, and more, “Let’s partners together for two or three years. Then me – folk artists who sing about their faith – and
figure out how to make this song better and get it Vance got the itch to find his own place, and that’s great. Or a rock band that might have some
down on tape.” Jacquire was moving out. spiritual overtones; that’s awesome. Being
What was your later studio like? So, Vance moved in? pigeonholed is never fun. Even if it’s great music,
I had ADATs and a 32-channel Mackie board. I often Yeah. It’s always challenging renting a place and having you’re still pigeonholed for it. It’s still limiting. It’s
threatened that if I had that console and 12 [Shure a landlord. After renting for 11 years, it was like, still telling you that you can’t do something else.
SM]57s I could make a record. “What am I doing with my money?” I found the No one wants to hear that.

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To call myself an engineer is a stretch. I can get good How long did this place take to build Unless they’re trained, or have this odd, instinctual
sounds, but there are so many great engineers in this out? ability, most people end up being sharp on low notes.
town who know why the gear works, not just how the About nine months. Vance and I have always been really One of my pet peeves is when a vocalist does a run and
gear works. I don’t claim to be that at all. For great about taking a normal, existing building and puts an “h” in all of the steps because they can’t control
producing, I come from more of a musical turning it into something that’s actually workable as their voice enough to hit it. I try to tell them to let their
background. I have a knack for melody and a studio. It’s fun working so closely with Vance. Even voice do the work, not the “h’s”. There are a lot of quirks

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arrangement. I’ve grown into my engineer ears as I though there’s some genre overlap, there’s definitely that singers have, like where they fall off of every note.
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continue to grow into the production part. I’m always
learning something. records that have come through that Vance has been vibrato as a crutch because they can’t find the pitch, or
One of the projects you were known for like, “You need to work with Mitch on this,” and vice they can’t hold it very long. There are so many things to
early on was Jars of Clay. How did you versa. I appreciate that relationship. It’s been really look out for.
first meet those guys?
I didn’t actually meet them until I moved to Nashville.
I believe one of them went to one of those youth
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someone like that. I’m okay with that; I’m quiet… Most of your jobs are album projects at
this point, top to bottom?
camps that I was playing at, saw me, and bought
one of my records. Later, in Nashville, we were at Gear Yeah. Albums or EPs. I’ve done a couple of singles, and
I don’t enjoy it as much. I feel like you don’t get to
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the same church and started having lunch together. I often ask myself the question, “If I didn’t buy know the artist as well. For me, that’s so much a part
We hit it off pretty quickly, and they started asking another piece of gear, could I continue making records of how I treat the record; to get to know them. Even
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me to do these one-off songs for endorsement deals for the rest of my life?” Of course, I could still make when I’m mixing, I know who they are and I’ll think,
or little things that weren’t part of a record; just a records. I buy most of my gear as an investment. I try to “Oh, they’ll love this,” or, “They won’t like this, so I’m
single song. That morphed into doing a record with buy either used or boutique-type equipment that is not going to do that.”
them. Steve Mason [guitar] from Jars had an going to appreciate. A vintage piece is going to As a producer and engineer, do you ever
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unfinished basement, and I had a bunch of gear. I appreciate. My savings account is in this room! feel like you get something out of a
helped him finish out his basement, brought my grindstone. I’m just trying to keep my clients happy. session that you weren’t expecting?
gear over, and we started making music. We called Your tracking rooms are as far away Oh, yeah. I’m 52 years old. I’ve used every production
it Sputnik Sound. That’s where we did The Eleventh from each other as they could trick that I know. When an artist comes in who
Hour, which happened to win a Grammy. You never possibly be. doesn’t know the rules, or has a different set of tricks,
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think when you’re tracking something that it’s It is intentional. We tried to separate the foundation of I’m quick to listen. At first, I might hear something
going to be Grammy-worthy. what we built on his side. Even since we’ve been that really throws me off, and I’m like, “Wait, can you
What do you think were some of the here, we’ve had to tear down some walls and pack in play that chorus again?” It takes me a little bit to be
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factors that made that record worthy rock wool. If Vance is tracking, especially in the like, “Oh, that’s really great. I never would have
of a Grammy? hallway or close, I can hear it in my control room. thought of that.” I guess my pop instincts would be
Great songs and great talent. Vance Powell was at the Luckily, I can’t hear it in my tracking room; it doesn’t to change it. I try to listen, and if it rubs me the
helm most of the time. I was the second engineer; I bleed into my tracks. wrong way, I ask myself, “Why? Is it wrong, or is it
filled in a couple of times for him. That’s when People don’t realize that it’s practically just different?” If it’s different, is it a good different
Blackbird Studios was being built, so Vance was a myth that you can separate rooms or bad different? I don’t want to ever “fabricate” the
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You can with millions of dollars, which we didn’t have! job is to carve pathways through it to make it
I think I quickly learned how to make records fast, [laughs] accessible. I don’t want to lose the raw wilderness of
because those guys work really fast. They have short Your start was mostly through what they’re doing, but I want to make it accessible
attention spans. If they come up with an idea, you’ve the Christian music world in ways, for their audience. I worked with an artist a couple
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started and ended. No dynamics. I ended up saying, or EPs, or I’m out on my motorcycle doing trips. I try their talent and work ethic. If they’re out there
“Let’s just do one song.” It was tragic, because to save time for that. working hard, they’ll sell some records. Of course,
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there’s a great talent there. But the wilderness was Someone told me that you typically work budget is a factor, but I’m more willing to flex if
too thick. nine to six on weekdays. they’re really hard-working artists.
Do you find yourself doing mixing jobs Yeah. Most artists really like it, especially if they’re from Is there any money from points these
very often?
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out of town. They get to go and enjoy Nashville. I’m days on the projects you’re doing?
I very seldom do just mixing. There are so many other, really focused when I’m working, and I require the Yeah, the way I work my contracts is there’re no points
great mix people who are in my price range. That’s artist to be focused. When six o’clock rolls around, unless they sell a certain amount of records. If they’re
what they do. They mix. I can mix, but if I’m mixing we’re exhausted. It’s nice for them to relax and grab going to sell a couple thousand out of their trunk, I
it needs to be a 24-track kind of record. If it’s 98 a drink and dinner. don’t need to be part of that. To be honest, most of
tracks, I don’t know what to do with it. I don’t have Does it also help with family life? my records sell maybe only 3,000 to 10,000. It’s not
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a lot of interest in sorting through all those tracks. Oh, of course. I have two kids and a wife. Keeping a worth even the conversation. But I get to make really
When you’re doing pre-production, are family together takes a lot of work and intentionality. cool records. That’s my niche that I’ve carved out; I’m
you also spelling out arrangements Consistency helps with that, greatly. grateful, and I love it.
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and instruments to use? How do jobs come to you? What does the future hold?
Yeah. I came up with this production sheet that has the I don’t have any management. I get lots of artists who The future? If it doesn’t change from now, I’ll be happy.
song title and spots I can fill in. It has the typical come through my email. I check out a lot of demos. Let’s make something fun and new! r
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like strings, which has their own space on the sheet. It to send you a demo and work with you?
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vocals, I can mark them off. It’s really handy. many tricks one can do now where I can’t tell if
That’s pretty awesome. How many they have talent or not. I can hear [Antares] Auto-
records a year do you think you are Tune obviously, but I don’t know how much of that
producing, as far as full albums or is put together. I want to hear them sing into a
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How did you first come to work at Dreamland?


Landing at Area 52
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I moved up river from New York in 1985. I heard that a new studio was being built in a church in West
Hurley. I called the owner, Joel Bluestein. He explained to me that he had bought the building, and
by David Rothenberg he had a crew who was supposed to be building the studio but that crew abandoned the project,
leaving him stranded. At the time, I had some tech experience, as far as wiring, patchbays, and putting
Dave Cook, recording and live engineer racks together. He hired me as a chief engineer right off the bat. I remember the day when we fired
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extraordinaire, has worked with The B-52s, up the console. It was a mid-‘70s API with a little 36 input by 24 monitor section, which was dubbed
King Crimson, Cindy Cashdollar, David Bowie, “The Jukebox.” Very classic console. We fired that up, started troubleshooting for a couple of days, had
Amy Helm, Ravi Shankar, Mamadou Kelly, Maya a few test sessions, and we were up and running. That was the beginning of my time with Dreamland.
Beiser, Suzanne Vega, and many other artists The first session that we did there was great. During that period, my engineering friends in New York
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in many genres of music. He inspires confidence and I were listening to Peter Gabriel’s Security record, trying to figure out how they did it. Jerry Marotta
and ingenuity with all who have worked with [Tape Op #33, drums] was on it, Larry Fast [#33] was on keys, and David Rhodes was on guitar. All
him, from the famous Dreamland Recording these great guys. I was in the studio one day by myself, and the phone rang. It was Tony Levin [#33],
Studios near Woodstock, New York, in a Peter Gabriel’s bass player. He’s one of the world’s best; having played with King Crimson, Paul Simon,
converted church, to his own Area 52 Studios and Stick Men. I had heard he was living up here, but I hadn’t met him up to that point. He said, “Hi,
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in the Hudson Valley, to life on the road all this is Tony Levin. I’d like to come over and see the studio.” He came over and checked it out. It was
over the world. How did this humble man behind for a project that he was producing – a woman from out west – and they were gonna do a handful of
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the boards move from the big drum sound of songs. He said, “The band I’ll be bringing in, it’s gonna be me, Jerry Marotta, Larry Fast, and Sid
‘80s new wave to becoming the go-to guy for McGinnis.” He was playing guitar then, not David Rhodes. But essentially Security’s rhythm section. I
desert blues from Mali? was an assistant engineer on this one, but the fact that I was in the room with these guys and seeing
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You wouldn’t necessarily think that a successful tune on the record. In the middle of it, We didn’t have a choice. We had to move forward. I
church is the best space to have a there’s a stop, and Cindy [Wilson] yells out, “Tin roof started veering away from the ashram gig back in the
recording studio. rusted,” which is a signpost for the whole tune. By early 2000s. I got into touring as a front of house
Actually, most were built to have the pastor or the priest today’s standards it would be a miracle to be able to guy. Over at Bard College, the Richard B. Fisher Center
stand there and speak to the whole congregation spend that much time. It was a much more relaxed [for the Performing Arts] was opening up and they
acoustically. schedule back then. You took tea breaks, you started hiring me to do shows that would come
Is that a good thing? swam... There was a pool at Dreamland. A lot of stars through. I did Elvis Costello with the Mingus Big
Well, this was the ‘80s, so it was all about big. The big swam in that pool. Bobby McFerrin swam naked in Band, which was a one-off and a great show.
drum sound, the big snare sound in particular. It was that pool. Yo-Yo Ma might’ve jumped in as well, but How did you come to open your own
the days of Bruce Springsteen’s “Born in the U.S.A.” I can’t confirm that! Nick Cave certainly swam there. studio?
– one of the loudest snare drums on record. The That’s something that a lot of us who came from My studio, Area 52, came about eight years ago. I never
bigger the drum sound, the better. Everyone wanted that era miss... that laid-back attitude. It was more really owned tons of gear, but I started to acquire
to come to Dreamland and record drums. The main creative. You got to sit back and listen to things a some casual recording gear and some racks of live
church room wasn’t very insulated, so climate-wise little bit and really take it in. Instead of just, “Get it sound equipment that were in my house. I needed a
it was very tough to deal with. It wasn’t sound done. Get it done. We’ll fix it later.” A bit of the place to keep it. This complex we’re in, Markertek,
isolated either, so there were trucks and things that magic is gone. That being said, I say to people all had this room available. It’s about 15 by 30; a small
would go by that were room. I was gonna use it as a
tricky to deal with at the
time. We’d put four or
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compress the crap out of
those and make them as
Throw in his vast experience doing live sound and a great that we were doing music in
here, got very interested in
big as we could. The main deal of natural talent, and you have a consummate that, and was excited about
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the biggest record to talking about the possibility
come out of there at that time was The B-52’s record the time that the way the technology works now, of an actual tracking room. I pictured it as a small
Cosmic Thing. At the beginning of “Love Shack” you that you can send 192 tracks down [an ADAT] vocal booth, just to do some overdubs in. He said,
really hear the sound of the church; those room mics
were used a lot in that mix. For years I would get
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“Okay, let’s do it.” He helped out with the
construction considerably. On the other side of the
wall was an open warehouse space, so we built out
Was [Tape Op #113] produced four tracks on that What were some other Dreamland into that space and created the main room, put the
record and Nile Rodgers did the rest. I don’t know examples of this old-school glass in, put a floor in what is now the control room,
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was going around about the place. Two of The B-52s, How about Suzanne Vega’s record, 99.9F°? The engineer bones in the beginning. Again, I didn’t have a whole
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Keith [Strickland] and Kate [Pierson], lived in the on that was Tchad Blake [Tape Op #16]. He was one lot of gear. Very quickly, people started wanting to
area and they wanted to stay local. It wasn’t a big of the most innovative engineers that I’ve ever met. come and do projects here. The minimal gear at the
budget record; it was a comeback thing. They He was doing things with particular pieces of gear time didn’t seem to matter. They were coming to
and mic’ing techniques that I had never seen before. work with me, trusting I had what I needed for their
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just needed to use someone good who knew the He had just come from India and a lot of the street project.
studio. I sent Don a cassette of some work that I musicians and singers were using these PA systems How did this studio become the North
had done. He loved it and said, “Yeah, great. Let’s by Ahuja. It’s basically a big plastic horn with a American center for African desert
do the record.” I was hired to do three weeks of power amp. He loved the sound of it. He bought one blues recording?
tracking with them. “Love Shack” was the last track of these Ahuja’s, and he started experimenting with A very cool guy named Chris Nolan, of Clermont Music,
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we did out of the four. At the time I felt it was running Suzanne’s vocals through the Ahuja, which lives not far away. He was involved in the Festival au
almost a throwaway; an afterthought. Charlie has this narrow 3 to 4 kHz bandwidth. He’d be Désert [Festival in the Desert] in Timbuktu [Mali]. He
Drayton, the drummer, wanted to experiment and he mic’ing it from a distance in the church, and then came back with some recordings from that concert
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took down the standard drum set. Dreamland had running that back into the track as a vocal effect. about five or six years ago; just on a little handheld
this collection of ridiculously cool marching drums You’ll hear this vocal all over the album. thing. Some were actual field recordings, made in a
and African [percussion]. He collected a bunch and What did you do after you left tent somewhere, but the majority of them were feeds
set up a drum set out of these drums, which sounded Dreamland? from the console. He needed someone to edit,
a little bizarre. We continued to get some sounds on I ended up being hired as a chief engineer for an master, and figure out what to do with these,
it, then Don came back from a break and listened to ashram. because he wanted to release a compilation record.
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him play the groove. He’s like, “No, that’s all wrong. Why does an ashram need a chief Almost all of them were in really bad shape, with
engineer?
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We need to go back to standard drums.” We went distorted feeds from the console or just bad mixes to
back to that and started doing the tune. Everyone in Well, because they had an amazing studio. There was a begin with. We spent weeks filtering, compressing,
the control room, once the lyrics started happening, heavy focus on music, on chanting. The ashram EQ’ing, and restoring. We also went through hundreds
knew that this was something special. It was loads introduced me to Pro Tools. of recordings, editing the recordings that he was
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of fun to track. In the end, of course, it was the most That ashram was a high-tech place! deciding to use, and then doing whatever I could.
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Over the course of that, I was learning that Chris also
managed a few other artists from Mali, like Khaira Live Sound
Arby, Mamadou Kelly, Oumar Konaté, and Leila Gobi. I started working with Maya Beiser, the New York-
He’d do a North American tour with one or two of the based cellist. I would get calls to start heading up
acts simultaneously. He had it in his head, “Let’s start larger international and national tours. I took on a
doing some of the recordings here, and get some Ravi Shankar tour, back when he was still alive and
fresh American-cut tracks.” Khaira Arby was the first playing his butt off! They wanted the shows loud, but
artist that he brought in. We did her record and a few it was quiet acoustic instruments. It needs to be loud
days, and after that we did Oumar Konaté, who was and powerful. Trying to get a quiet sitar amplified
her young guitar player. It’s been going ever since. enough, where I wasn’t gonna have feedback issues,
Chris counted recently how many releases we’ve done was tough. We’d use a combination of microphones. I
from here, and I think it was 22. was experimenting with Neumann KM 184s, all the way
How do these musicians like it here? to Shure SM57s and things in between. Of all the mics
They go into the room, they play their music, and it’s out there, I ended up with an Audio-Technica ATM450
great. If we’re looking to do something that’s a little – a small side-address condenser – and one or two
more appealing to the Western ear – where it’s more contact pickups. I would tweak from there. Some of the
produced, rock-solid time, very consistent, and instruments could be harsh if you’re not careful.
perfectly in tune – we’ve gotta coax them along a Looping back to the ashram, I came from a number of
little bit. Sometimes they play with click tracks, even years recording similar instruments and being very in
tune with what was happening. At the end of our first

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challenge, because they usually just go in there and soundcheck in Chicago, Ravi comes over to me in the

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play. They listen to a take, and they’re like, “Okay, green room. He sits down and says, “Dave, I must say,
great. Move on.” The musicians are all Muslims. Some you have a very good ear for this music.” I said, “Thank
of them are very devout, so there’s no alcohol. They you so much, Ravi.” He says to his wife, who was
all speak French, and Chris is fluent in French, so he’s running the business at the time, “I think we should
an interpreter as well. They’re very interesting keep him.” His daughter, Anoushka, would help out
sessions. With some of the artists – two or three considerably during soundchecks for him. We’d work in

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players here. Guitarist Cindy Cashdollar is on a really speak too much at checks; he would close his
couple. Violinist Iva Bittová was on one of them with eyes and his head would bob. You would know he was
Mamadou Kelly. Drummer Susie Ibarra as well. happy when he would do this.
Excellent players. We’ve had ten to twelve people in I got a request to do a clarinet and guitar duo record.
these two rooms here. It’s a circus, but it’s loads of
fun. The place gets trashed!
You said adding the click track takes it
I was way into it. The guitar player uses Royer (d
microphones live. Pretty quickly he started asking me
what kind of microphones I have and what we were
to another level. Why? gonna use, which is fine. As I mentioned earlier, I
They will traditionally start in one tempo, and end in don’t usually even have to answer those questions.
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about double the tempo. It’s what the music is. In a People book me, knowing, “Dave’s gonna have what
live setting, of course, with the audience throwing we need. I don’t care what it is.” So, I’d finished a
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their hands over their heads dancing, that’s what classical guitar record recently. On that we ended up
happens. They’ll build the excitement, and the tempo using an AKG C414, and a couple of [Neumann] KM
will build. That’s what they do. It makes editing a 184s, which is what I told him. His immediate
challenge.
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response was, “The 184s don’t work. Too bright for


In general, do you find music more or me.” I was a little taken aback by it, but it was fine.
less click-tracked today than when He said, “I’m gonna have some Royers sent.” John
you started? Jennings from Royer sent an SF24 stereo ribbon to
It really varies. For the projects that need it, whether it’s use on the session. I have since fallen in love with
for overdubbing or building tracks, it’s just a matter that mic. This incident taught me to take in a little
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of course. People understand it, and they use it. But bit more when someone wants to suggest using some
yeah, it really just depends. I did most of Amy Helm’s new equipment that I don’t have.
solo record, Didn’t It Rain. I don’t think there was a Even after years of experience, you still
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click on that entire record. Very organic, roots, can take some unsolicited advice?
Americana-type music. It feels great. She’s keeping it Being in my own environment, with my own gear for so
going. Her father, Levon Helm, played on a few tracks long, I find that I can stagnate. I’m doing things my
on that record; the last recordings he ever made. I way, and with my gear. When I’m in other places I
came in about midway through the process. can pick up tips and techniques that I wouldn’t
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in and try to tell you what equipment
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From humble beginnings in Hobbs, New Mexico,
and a childhood spent moving from oilfield to
oilfield for his father’s jobs, Ryan Bingham rode
bulls and eventually learned to play a guitar
given to him by his mother for his 16th birthday.
From a first gig at a biker party, to every
roadhouse in the nowhere South, he honed his
songwriting and playing, which eventually
landed him a deal with [Universal Music Group
Nashville’s] Lost Highway Records. His big break
came appearing in the film Crazy Heart, alongside
Jeff Bridges, and his song from the film, “The Weary
Kind” earned Bingham an Academy Award, Golden
Globe Award, and Critics’ Choice Award for Best
Song in 2010, as well as a Grammy in 2011. The to do?”
Americana Music Association also named Bingham I said, “Man,

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2010’s Artist of the Year. Almost a decade on, Ryan is Lightnin’ Hopkins, Terry Allen,
still writing, acting (most recently in the Netflix Beggars Banquet.” He’s like, “Oh, yeah; come in.”

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series Yellowstone), and making great records. An important part of collaboration is
having those references. You already
have a common language. Where did
What was the process of making American also incorporating that into a live performance. I think
you make the record?
Love Song, your new album? the acting has come into that. I come on stage and
tell my stories in between the songs; what they’re We moved around a bit. Charlie was on tour with Bob

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It was a bit of a process. I was seeking to work with a
about and what they could be about. I went and saw Dylan, and back and forth in the studio. We wanted to
producer on this album. I wanted to collaborate with
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someone on this thing, and it took me a while to zero Springsteen on Broadway several months back, and it
was such a mind-blowing performance. I’ve always was only available for a certain time. Charlie called up
in on someone to work with. The songs were so
been a fan of Bruce Springsteen, but after seeing that and said, “We can do it right now if we get in there.”
personal to me, but, at the same time, I wanted to
performance – and how he used his life story and wove We did some of it at Public Hi-Fi [Tape Op #27] in
step out of my comfort zone and not be afraid to go
in a different direction if that’s what the songs called
for. I ultimately ended up calling Charlie Sexton in
Austin, Texas, and saying “I want to make a country-
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that in with the songs – it was really inspiring and
something I wanted to explore. Writing new songs and
performing them for people, you’re really out there
Austin as well. We finished it up with my friend Justin
Stanley in Los Angeles, but the majority we did there
at Arlyn.
telling your story and trying to find ways of getting How much pre-production time did you
blues album, in the vein of Beggars Banquet with Terry
that across. I appreciate that songs are meant for get with Charlie Sexton?
Allen-esque themes.” The songs are part
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people to interpret in their own ways, and with their I’d been writing songs for the past couple of years. I’d
autobiographical and part fictional. It’s a love story
own stories as well. But sometimes songs are done pretty extensive demos at my house. I actually
that takes place in all the different spots throughout
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interpreted in the wrong way. They’re taken out of took some recording gear to a buddy’s ranch out in
the southwest where I grew up – in Texas and all – and
context, and it might be something completely New Mexico. He has this little cabin in the middle of
moving my way out to California along those highways
opposite of what I intended. I think it’s nice to be able the desert. I had the songs quite far along, as far as
and roads. Each song takes place in a different setting.
certain elements I wanted on them. Whenever I sent
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It not only represents where I was living or staying at to explain where the root of where some of that comes
from. those to Charlie, there wasn’t really any preproduction.
the time, but the people I was hanging out with, the
I wanted help with some choruses and arrangements
kind of music I was listening to, the food, and the Ultimately, as an artist, you cede control.
When I first put American Love Song on some of the songs. Even songs that I might have
cultures. There’s a lot of different kinds of shit going
on, I noticed immediately how Stones- already had a chorus for, or had some bridge or
on in the south, and Texas in general. It’s such a big
y it is. instrumentation on it, I’d take it to him and leave it
place. All the swing music, country in the south along
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really bare-bones. I wanted to have his input and for


Louisiana and the coast, the Houston hip-hop scene, I’ve always been into a lot of the Texas guys, like
Lightnin’ Hopkins and Townes Van Zandt. But really, him to express his musical direction when it came to
Cajun music, and jazz, as well as the Tejano and
I fall more on the blues side. I always loved playing the band and everything. I think we got together for
Conjunto music on the border and in New Mexico and
maybe a week and played with guitars and piano. I
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California. It was about documenting that journey. acoustic slide guitar, and the way that the Stones
played country music. Those records – Beggars sent him the demos, so he had time to listen to those
You’ve been acting for a while, and your
Banquet and Let It Bleed – where there are fiddles songs. We went into the studio, and the band had
wife, Anna Axster, is a filmmaker. How
and steel slide guitar, there’s that mix of those never heard them before. We sat down; Charlie talked
much of that process has been
sounds that I grew up familiar with in different areas to those guys, and was like, “Let’s get it!”
brought into making records like this
of Texas where I was living. I think I always wanted Did you put the band together or did he?
one?
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to make this kind of record, but never knew quite He did. J.J. Johnson [drums] and Scott Nelson [bass]
I think more than I realize. I’ve always looked at songs as
were the rhythm section in Austin. I wanted to leave
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if I’m looking at an image and describing it. Writing how to communicate that. One great thing about
working with Charlie was that I didn’t really have to that up to Charlie. I wanted to put all that into
down and describing the images in my head of places
explain to him what I was hearing in my head. He Charlie’s hands. For me, it was to be able to focus
I witnessed growing up, or traveling around the world.
was like, “What are you hearing? What do you want on the songs and perform them. We tracked a lot of
Weaving the stories into it. It’s not only with the
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that live, so I didn’t want to really have to think


songwriting and recording an album as a whole, but
about that. My wife and I have our own record label,
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and I finance my own records. The only part of that I still feel like I was not really able to soak it in so much. How about Jim Scott [Tape Op #75]?
which makes me nervous is that I don’t always have It was all happening so fast. We recorded that album, Jim’s great. I’d been a fan of his work. I knew he lived
a ton of money to spend in the studio. I try to get Junky Star, in five days. First, we went to T Bone’s in Los Angeles, but I didn’t know how accessible of
as much work done as I can before I go in so that I house; me and my band. We sat down in the living room a guy he might be to get in touch with. I don’t know
can really make the best out of my time. It was and he said, “Play them all for me. I want to hear what where I got his number, but I got his phone number
definitely a process of having to hold myself back they all sound like when you’re playing them live.” We from someone, a called him up, and asked if he’d be
and being like, “Let it go. Let it be what it’s going to played them for him, and he said, “We’re going to record interested in working. He said, “Hell yeah. Come out
be.” Not to try to plan everything out. I let Charlie them like that.” We went over to The Village, set up, and to my place.” He’s got a studio in Castaic Lake,
take it into whatever direction it was going to go. It did one song right after the other. Probably two or three [California]. It’s a big fucking warehouse that he’s
really took the songs to places I couldn’t take them. takes of each song, and that was it. been collecting gear in for 30 years.
The references I had given him – the Rolling Stones, Wow. Gear and tie-dyes!
Terry Allen, Lightnin’ Hopkins, or the acoustic Texas At the time I had my long-time buddies, The Dead Horses, All kinds of cool shit. He’s a great guy. I had an amazing
Blues – I don’t necessarily know if I could go in with that had been in my band forever. We had a couple of time working with him. He’s another guy where you
a band. I don’t have the musical knowledge or lingo records out, and then the movie hit. After that, I got can reference a sound, record, instrument, or
to be able to communicate that to a band. I’m the all the pressure from my manager, and even from T anything, and he’ll know how to get the sound
guy who started playing guitars at the rodeo on the Bone. They wanted me to do the next record with their immediately. It doesn’t take him half an hour to get
back of a pickup truck. I don’t have any formal guys. I wanted to too; the opportunity to do a record a mic set up. He turns it on, and there it is.
training. Charlie could really get in there. He could like that with all those players. It would have really I think that’s a huge part of production;
really communicate all that and make it happen. broken the hearts of all those guys in my band if I had keeping the wheels going.

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What did Charlie bring to the songs that shrugged them off and said, “I’m going to do this right Yeah. We did Fear and Saturday Night fairly quickly. We
surprised you?

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now.” I remember talking to T Bone. We went out for tracked two or three songs a day, pretty much live.
Definitely different grooves. He and J.J. have worked a dinner. T Bone said, “I think we should use these guys We did that whole record in a week or two. We could
lot together. He brought this [Roland CR78] that you for the record, and it’s going to be amazing.” I said, “I roll on to the next. If something wasn’t working, he’d
can program click tracks out of; old-school ‘80s hear you, all the way; but I can’t do this to my guys say, “Hold on, guys! I want to change the sound of
analog. He would come up with these crazy beats to right now, at this moment. It’s going to have to be a this over here.” You wouldn’t even notice him doing
use as a click, and then I would play along to it. longer process.” He’s like, “All right, let’s get in there it, but a month later – when you’re listening to the

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What they would bring into it would be completely and get it how we can get it.” None of us were session record – it’s like, “Oh, damn!” I could tell where he
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what Charlie wanted to get. I really found it honky-tonks. Not to say we didn’t have a vibe. There
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interesting, and a lot of fun, to be around that. was something special going on between us when we
How do you capture demos, and what’s played; but there’s a difference between some of the
your home studio like these days?
I have one of those Tascam 8-track reel-to-reels and a board, and my band at that time.
but for all of the demoing I was doing I was using Pro Whether you downplay it or not, you
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players that T Bone has on records, versus guys like me

Tools and a little laptop. I brought two or three guitars, guys had a thing going.
a mandolin, and a keyboard, and did all the demos on We definitely did. I’m not trying to downplay it at all.
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Charlie? and Roadhouse Sun with him.


I think maybe 16 or 17. I think I had 30 or more, It was just me and my drummer. We were a two-piece
altogether. I’ve got enough [leftover] that I want to band. I was a huge Black Crowes fan and so was my
do another album, but acoustic solo. It’s a lot of drummer. I think that was right when Marc had got
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ballads. I had a pretty clear idea of what I wanted on back with them and started to tour. We were pretty
this album, and then on the next one. stoked to work with him. He really taught me how to
You’ve worked with a bunch of play music with a band. I’d never played with a band;
producers over the years. I wanted to I’d only played with a drummer before. I had a
read you a few names. What about T handful of songs, but I didn’t know a whole lot about
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Bone Burnett [Tape Op #67], who you arrangements, or playing with the band and all this
worked on Junky Star with. Did that space and timing. He was teaching me how to count
collaboration come out of the film, the song off. That basic of shit. He even went on the
Crazy Heart? [T Bone produced the road with us for a bit and played guitar. I’d never
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soundtrack] played electric guitar. I didn’t even know how to set


That whole experience was such a trip for me. It all came it up on stage. He bought me this Old Kraftsman
through that film. It’s one of those things you can never guitar for $100 off eBay, gave me a slide, and put
really be prepared for; I wish I had been a little bit older acoustic strings on it for me. He got me some little
and experienced when I got into that situation. I was boutique amp with a 10-inch speaker that had two
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working on the soundtrack with all the musicians that knobs. He said, “You can’t get into too much trouble
played on that, sitting in a room with my heroes; with this! Turn it all the way up and play.” He really
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people I heard play on records for decades. Now I was cultivated things for me, probably more than
sitting in a recording studio and they’re playing my anybody else. I really had no idea what I was doing
songs. It was pretty magical and surreal. To continue on out there. I was a kid with a guitar and a handful of
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and get to do another album with T Bone, I don’t know. ballads. He was teaching us how to play rock ‘n’ roll.
82/Tape Op#132/Mr. Bingham/(Fin.)
boing-y character while III Springs provided more density, a I/O, and a single headphone output allows you to monitor
lower midrange richness, and less metallic ringing. I wanted any channel or combination of channels. All in all, 128
to hear the spring as an effect in this scenario, so the II different inputs and 130 different outputs. The unit operates
Spring option was perfect. at all sample rates (32 kHz to 192 kHz), although the ADAT
Next, I adjusted the Presence parameter in conjunction and MADI channel count is cut in half at double samples
with Damp in order to achieve the tonal character I was after. rates. At quad sample rates the MADI I/O is reduced to 16,
I settled on a Presence setting of 6 and a Damp setting near and the ADAT is reduced to a single stereo S/PDIF. A version
2 kHz. This gave me a midrange-forward tone without all of the of the A32 with an additional 64 channels of Dante I/O is
zingy higher frequencies that would overly excite the springs available as well.
and result in distracting flutter. I left the Time parameter at 5 There are four small high resolution color TFT screens on
and eased the Mix control up just above unity. The result was the face of the unit that default to displaying sleek looking
a sound that reminded me of my favorite guitar amp-based bar graph meters for the analog I/O, a jog wheel for
units and complimented the track beautifully. Think Nancy changing settings, a single headphone output, and just two
Sinatra’s “Bang Bang” and you’ll be in the ballpark. buttons: one for menu functionality and one for power.

PSP I often lean on spring reverbs to add character and


dimension to vocals, so I was curious to see how SpringBox
Simple but not limiting in the least. I found the menus and
setting parameters to be intuitively laid out. There are also
SpringBox plug-in would fare. I found the III Spring setting in stereo to be seven separate user defined mixes that can be saved and
There are plenty of great emulations of upscale vintage most effective in this role. With the high-pass again at recalled for monitoring specific groups of channels via the
reverbs out there, from plates and chambers to coveted early around 60 Hz, the Presence at 2, Damp at 1.8 kHz, and headphone output. Each of the screens display meters for
digital units. While there is a time and a place for these Diffusion at 5, the tone was dark and enveloping. A slightly 16 channels (unless the menu is open), which takes over

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elegant designs, many times I crave the dirty attitude that longer decay time of 7 imparted a richness that really the third and fourth screens and packs the 32 analog ins
only a spring reverb can offer. Enter my new favorite reverb flattered Julia’s airy, articulate vocal. I also loved how onto the first screen, then the 32 analog outs onto the

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plug-in from PSP, SpringBox; “an emulation of a hardware SpringBox added width without calling too much attention second. This sounds like cramming a lot into a small space,
spring reverberator.” PSP won’t give away exactly which unit to itself in the mix. The best way I can describe this effect but I’d much rather have the screens a bit packed than not
was modeled for this plug-in, but I can tell you that it’s quite is that it gave the vocal a halo that was immediately missed be able to see all the analog I/O when using the menu,
close to hardware that I’ve used from Roland and Orban. The when the plug-in was bypassed. especially in live recording situations. As of this review,
GUI is straightforward and features Ferrorish’s RemoteApp,

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comparison, as well as a few global device was still in beta, and I
controls. Both channels A and B did not test it.
have a high-pass filter, a Presence The A32 feels well-built,
control that broadly boosts upper I so enjoyed the sound of SpringBox that I wouldn’t with a bevy of well thought out features that convince me
midrange frequencies, and a Damp control that sets high
frequency damping. Below this is a Time parameter for
setting the length of the reverb, and Trim for gain
It convincingly models all of the unique and wonderful
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it was designed with live recording (which I do a lot of) in
mind. For instance, when the unit is on you have to hold
down the power button for three seconds as it counts down
adjustments. Next, we have the option of configuring the of subtler spatial enhancement. Tweaking the plug-in’s to turn off, making it nearly impossible to power off the
reverb as mono in/stereo out or stereo in/stereo out and the thoughtfully laid out parameters was intuitive and quickly unit inadvertently. And although power is provided by a
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ability to utilize anywhere from two to six of the virtual lead to usable sounds on each source that I auditioned. More line-lump power supply, there are two screw-locking coaxial
springs. The amount of springs used plays a big part in the than anything, this plug-in nails the character of the DC connectors, meaning a redundant power supply can be
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sound of this unit – experimentation is encouraged here. outboard units that I know and love. I have yet to hear an connected. Thirdly, the unit can be configured to treat
Other parameters that affect both channels A and B are emulation that comes anywhere close to what SpringBox has either the optical or coaxial MADI connection as the
Diffusion, a Spread control for setting stereo width, and a to offer. primary connection and switch to the other automatically if
Pan/Balance. Finally, we have individual controls for both Dry ($89 street, free 14-day demo; pspaudioware.com) -Vince signal is lost. And as if that weren’t enough, the A32 makes
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and Wet signals and a button that engages either a Low CPU Chiarito <hivemindrecording.com> sharing signals a breeze by allowing you to route the same
mode with slightly attenuated high end or Brilliant mode inputs to multiple outputs, thus essentially using the A32
with an extended response. Ferrofish as a splitter.
On a recent session with the New York-based A32 converter So how does the unit sound? After loading up a session
singer/songwriter Julia Anrather, I captured an electric guitar Admittedly, I’d began this review with a bit of frustration in an alternate DAW, I was able to feed the unit an optical
with both an amp and DI. The ‘60s semi-hollowbody paired
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by hooking up the MADI optical outputs of my interface to MADI signal for testing. To my ears the unit has a slight
with a Fulltone Supa-Trem2 pedal had a rich and woody tone the MADI optical inputs of the Ferrofish A32, routed 16 midrange focus, without overcrowding that vital frequency
that everyone agreed was working well. At the end of the day channels of audio and… only two channels came through… range, while revealing detail in whatever source material
when I was putting together a reference mix, I found that What gives? After a bit of head scratching, I figured out that passes through it. The signal to noise ratio of this unit,
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the amped sound was a bit too gritty for the song and opted the 32-channel limit of my native Pro Tools software was the quoted at 114 dB, falls a bit short of current state of the art
to use the direct signal. I loved the unique tone that the DI culprit. I was well aware of this limit, but because I rarely converters – perhaps the sacrifice we must make for the A32’s
offered but immediately missed the spring reverb from the work with I/O channel counts higher than 32, and because small footprint and high channel count, but this isn’t a deal
amp. SpringBox to the rescue! I instantiated the plug-in Pro Tools allowed me to route to all of the available I/O, I breaker for me by any means, especially with its round trip
directly onto the guitar track in my DAW and within minutes thought that I would be able to at least choose which 32 latency (at base sample rates being an impressive .5 ms)! I’m
had a sound that fit perfectly into the mix. channels I could use; not so. I was stuck with the first 32 particularly fond of units like the A32 that offer a wide range
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I brought the high-pass filter up to 60 Hz to eliminate inputs and the first 32 outputs available. I couldn’t even trick of I/O options with ridiculously high channel counts, and I
any subsonic junk and decided that the II Spring setting in the system by deleting I/O paths. The more you know… can attest that the Ferrofish certainly earns its keep as a
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mono paired best with the electric guitar. Toggling back and Ferrofish’s A32 has 32 channels of analog I/O, 64 high-quality mobile recording interface.
forth between II and III Springs gave me some insight into channels of MADI I/O, and 32 Channels of ADAT I/O; all ($2399 street; ferrofish.com)
what these settings have to offer. II Springs offered a packed in to a single rack space unit. The analog I/O is all -John Bologni <johnbologni.com>
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brighter, leaner quality with a slightly more pronounced DB-25, both coaxial and optical are provided for the MADI

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Audient can use Audient’s iD mixer (low latency DSP software
application) that feeds the independently controlled
Other tuning programs have become popular over the years,
but Auto-Tune remains my go to plug-in for quickly and
iD44 interface headphone outputs on the iD44’s front panel. The software gently tuning lead and background vocals, and also for
Audient jumped headfirst into the premium class interface mixer features controls for the iD44’s four mic inputs on the creating unusual or extreme tuning effects. One of my
market with their release of the iD22 [Tape Op #104]. The left side of the GUI, while the master section resides on the favorite uses of Auto-Tune is to place it on the input of a
premium classification gives more attention to component and right. Software input channels can be opened and closed in delay plug-in to create a vocal delay throw that occasionally
design quality than what may be found in standard prosumer sections – the four mic inputs, digital inputs (from the iD44’s plays a different note than the singer actually sang.
interfaces. Less noise, crosstalk, and superior preamps are the optical inputs), and the eight DAW returns (signal playing back Auto-Tune Access, the most recent release from Antares,
results here. With its iD44, Audient has continued to refine and from your computer), keeping the expandable panel as small provides the necessary controls to use Auto-Tune effectively,
expand on their original iD22 – especially with regard to I/O. as possible with its large faders and meters. The master section without all the knobs and settings that rarely get used by the
The iD44 is their latest and greatest with a total of 20 inputs is thorough. Using the three different channel types (mic average user. In probably 90% of my sessions, I only touch
and 24 outputs in a 4x4 analog configuration. The iD44’s four inputs, digital inputs, and DAW returns), one can assemble the two or three settings on the Auto-Tune plug-in in order to
Class A Audient console preamps (designed by David Dearden main monitor mix, up to four different cue mixes, plus any live get it to do what I need. Auto-Tune Access provides controls
of DDA fame) offer 60 dB of gain. On the digital side, high- mic/line or external digital ins. You can set the gain for each for Key, Scale, Retune Speed, and Humanize. The Retune
quality Burr-Brown AD/DA conversion chips are implemented cue mix, name it (for those of us with short-term memory control has been simplified to only three settings of Fast,
for superb conversion quality (up to 24-bit/96 kHz). The four issues), and solo each cue. At the bottom of this section are Medium and Slow, which I found to be effective during my
analog channels provide for easy routing to outboard gear, buttons for engaging monitor controls like a talkback mic, use, and the Humanize function helps deal with maintaining
unlike mere stereo units – and guess what? The iD44 also has mono playback, alt speakers configuration, dim, cut, and or removing natural vibrato and pitch drift. Auto-Tune Access
balanced inserts on channels 1 and 2, allowing for tracking and polarity flip. Incidentally, the large monitor control knob on also offers a Hold button, which freezes what’s being shown
mixing with your favorite analog outboard gear. I love options. the iD44’s face doubles as an encoder (when engaging the iD in the Note Read Out Display. The fresh display shows, in real-

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The iD44 synced perfectly to my tricky-to-configure larger button) that can be used for scrolling or be assigned to control time, the note that is being detected, along with the amount
interface, giving me more channels while taking advantage of virtually any DAW parameter. of tuning being applied.

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the Audient’s superior conversion quality. And, with its BNC In the iD mixer app, a second pop-up utility panel can be Antares touts low latency with low CPU load for this plug-
connection, I can set the iD44 as my master clock. accessed for routing, with the matrix in the center to assign in, and I found that to be true. On my 2013 MacBook running
The Audient’s preamps delivered an even, un-hyped sound outputs for the main monitor mix or cue mixes to physical Pro Tools 12, I opened a mix with about 20 audio tracks and
with just a little color – but not a transformer-thickened, tube- outputs 1-4, or either of the independently controlled a few effects tracks. When I added Auto-Tune Access to eight
enhanced larger than life tone. Nothing spikey, either – even headphone outputs. Here you can also configure a second pair vocal tracks, the computer didn’t even notice. I found the
when driven. It is all very analog and natural sounding, and I of monitors, dim volumes, and master clock. The talkback mic sound of Auto-Tune Access to be as transparent as I could

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felt that I could do professional-level work with the iD44’s source is here, too. The iD44 doesn’t include a built-in TB mic, expect from any version of Auto-Tune, and while I could also
preamps – a rare thing to say of an interface’s built-in pres. In but here is where you chose a talkback source, like tapping into make it glitch pretty hard, it was perhaps not as hard as the

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addition to the balanced mic/line combo input jacks located the computer’s internal mic for instance – handy for the less classic Auto-Tune 5 robo-voice. I would recommend Auto-
on the rear panel of the interface, the first two channels also endowed home or project studio. Lastly, this is where the Tune Access to anyone with the caveat that it does leave out
offer discrete JFET instrument inputs on the front panel. Again, iD44’s three assignable function buttons (located on the face the Scale Detune knob, which is often useful for
these provide a nice and firm, yet naturally smooth sound.
Guitars work well naked or, if you need air or hair, re-amped
later. I usually task transformer-coupled outboard gear for such
capture, but the Audient provided enough meat for a solid
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of the iD44) unit can be configured. The iD44’s four balanced,
line level TRS outputs provide connection for a main and alt
set of monitors, outboard gear, or any combination of both. If
you already have your own monitor controller, you can skip the
performances where the acoustic instruments are not exactly
tuned to A440. This, however, rarely happens in synth-based
or programmed music tracks.
I really like the updated look of the new Auto-Tune
sound. If you’d prefer to skip the preamp circuit entirely (a big iD mixer entirely for line level signals directly to external products and find the controls much easier to read than the
hygienic plus for many engineers), you can send a line level hardware. Bonus to iD44 owners: a free pass to Audient’s older plug-ins with light-colored backgrounds. Also new to
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source directly into the AD via the first two channel’s line software download site (ARC), where you can download Cubase Auto-Tune Access is that no iLok is needed, as it uses the Wibu
inserts. On the other hand, running your sound through lots of LE, loops, LANDR, and Waldorf’s collection of softsynths software licensing system. Auto-Tune Access does not provide
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high-quality, analog circuitry more or less defines that elusive- (including their PPG emulation). Throat Modeling, Formant Correction, or MIDI Control, so if you
to-get console sound – without a console, anyway. The point Audient has hit a real sweet spot with the iD44 by offering need those features, you may need to upgrade to Auto-Tune
is; if you want more options that way, it’s there for you on the a high level of sound quality, while providing easy options to Pro. Auto-Tune is a mature product with an experienced user
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first two channels. If not, use channels 3 and 4 (no insert integrate your favorite outboard. The iD mixer application is base, but I find that Antares could do with a bit more
points). Each of the four channels offer independent phantom easy to grasp, yet eminently flexible, while providing the deep information in their downloadable user manuals, as the
power, -10 dB pads, and 100 Hz high-pass filters. functions of a professional monitor controller. The whole manuals provide only basic control descriptions. I would like to
As noted earlier, the iD44’s excellent conversion quality is package is nicely integrated into a small, tabletop interface see information about automation settings, MIDI setups, and
on par with its preamps. Like with the pres, you may prefer a that’s very affordable, considering the options and quality of maybe some basic setting suggestions. The plug-in does
different sound and more color (or less), but that is a matter sound. As Goldilocks reportedly said, “It’s just right.” provide a help button and pop-up tooltips for users that wish
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of taste at this level of quality. Audient’s conversion style feels ($699 MSRP; audient.com) -Alan Tubbs <bnoir-film.com> to avoid reading the manual.
more relaxed than those in other desktop interfaces I’ve
owned. For instance, I have another interface I use regularly
Antares Along with Auto-Tune Access I also tried out the new Auto-
Key plug-in (included with Auto-Tune Pro), which is
that offers a clean, sharp sounding conversion – and if Auto-Tune Access & Auto-Key plug-ins compatible with Auto-Tune Access, Pro and EFX+ versions. Auto-
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something in the mix isn’t fitting, it will stick out like a shark Antares has just upped its game by releasing a lower-
Key, when inserted on a musical track or master fader, will
fin! The Audient’s conversion has a smoother, more pleasing priced version of its Auto-Tune [Tape Op #126] line of pitch
automatically detect the key of a song, and by pressing one
sound to my ear, providing an elegant detail for fine correction plug-ins called Auto-Tune Access. I have been a user
button on the plug-in, it will set any Auto-Tune plug-in in your
brushwork. In short, the iD44 provides a pleasing, analog-ish of Auto-Tune since the ‘90s, beginning with the ATR-1 Auto-
session to the correct Scale and Key. Additionally, Auto-Key can
tone from the preamp circuit through digital conversion. It’s Tune hardware box and I’ve owned every version of Auto-Tune
directly examine a sound file on your computer and determine
software since then. I can honestly say that quite of few of
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easy to work with, and everything I’ve mixed through the iD44 its Key and Scale. This plug-in saved me a bit of time on a few
has translated well to other systems. my productions would not have seen the light of day were it
mixes, where I didn’t produce the track, nor did I have a guitar
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The iD44 supports USB 2.0 or above and comes packaged not for the power of Auto-Tune. When I use Auto-Tune, it’s
or keyboard handy to figure out the key. Auto-Key is only used
with both standard USB and a USB-C cables – nice touch. mostly in an invisible way, where even the artist may not
to determine the key, after which it can be removed from the
Latency performance is good on my older but capable Windows notice that they have been pulled a bit more in tune, but I’m
session. Handy!
7 tower (4-5 ms roundtrip) and was about the same for my also quite comfortable using Auto-Tune to smash a vocal into
(Auto-Tune Access $99 street; Auto-Key $49 list;
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smaller Windows 10 computer. For zero-latency monitoring you a robot à la Cher or T-Pain (my apologies to Steve Albini).
antarestech.com) -Adam Kagan <mixer.ninja>
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FabFilter is mappable to a suitable controller (e.g. Softube’s Console 1). Users
who wish to type values for controls can enable “Bob Ludwig Mode.” Audified
Pro-Q 3 Honestly, using this plug-in for a week made me start pricing a real Synergy R1 500 Series reverb
FabFilter’s Pro-Q 3 is the best sounding, most powerful, most one. The sound quality lives up to the reputation, hype and all. Audified is a hardware and software company from the Czech
flexible EQ plug-in that I’ve ever used. If you’re familiar with FabFilter’s That said, coaxing the maximum performance out of this engine Republic that may be somewhat unfamiliar as a brand name in the
line of products, you’ll be glad to know that the Pro-Q 3 continues their can be tricky with the original interface (hardware owners are US, but for more than 20 years they have been creating audio
tradition of excellence and innovation, with the same informative and doubtlessly accustomed to navigating the unit). But having the other products under various names, including DSound and Audiffex, often
intuitive style of user interface that you’ve come to know and love. three titles are the real reason I suggest this bundle. Softube spent as custom software for companies like TC Electronic and M-Audio.
An evolution of the Pro-Q 2, Pro-Q 3 pushes the boundaries of what considerable effort presenting the Weiss DS1 processing power in a After rebranding as Audified, they have released about 20 plug-ins
an EQ is expected to do by incorporating dynamic equalization into its way that allows users to get sounds quickly, while adding modern along with a 500 Series hardware reverb unit called the Synergy R1.
already overflowing toolbox. Some of the other new features include graphic representations. Power users need not fear the simplified The unique R1 reverb includes both DSP-based reverb along with an
per-band stereo channel selection, so you can EQ just the sides on one interfaces. All of the “sub-titles” maintain access to the full power of analog saturation section, as well as physical and app-based control
band, but the middle of another, (as well as full surround support – the device. Simply click on the Expert Parameters button and a of the 500 Series module. I recently test drove the Synergy R1 reverb
check website for details), the ability to view the spectrum of another detailed control menu affords access beneath the hood. in the studio.
instance of Pro-Q 3 while you’re working in your current instance MM1 is called an Intelligent Mastering Maximizer. Amount, Parallel The R1 occupies two slots in a standard 500 Series rack, allowing
(seeing the bass guitar spectrum displayed against the kick drum Mix, and Limiter Gain are the only control knobs. Attack and release stereo input and output along with a doublewide faceplate for
spectrum while you’re EQ’ing the kick drum), brickwall slopes, flat tilt profiles are chosen via five profiles buttons: Transparent, Loud, Punch, comfortably spaced control knobs with a large display. The unit
filters, and a handful of other goodies. Just when you thought Pro-Q Wide, and Deess. The MM1 does not sound like any of the other limiters produces reverb via an Analog Devices SHARC processor and also
2 was as good as it gets, FabFilter hits you with these new features you in my collection. I suspect this has to do with the release functions of provides saturation effects via a trio of analog circuits. In short, the
didn’t know you needed. the original unit. Across different genres I liked either a small amount R1 may be used as a reverb unit, a saturation/distortion processor,
Speaking of which, let’s talk dynamic EQ. FabFilter isn’t the first of limiting, say 1.5 dB and full power or blending in 25 percent of the or the reverb can feed into the saturation processor in series to

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manufacturer in the dynamic EQ arena, but by combining their wet signal for greater changes. These observations were project provide various reverb textures. Signal routing and the wet/dry mix
already formidable EQ with the option to utilize dynamic EQ is dependent, but the common theme is that the MM-1 is very useful to of both the reverb and saturator can all be controlled independently.

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something special. If you’re not familiar with dynamic EQ, it’s top off a mix or as a parallel limiter. It’s worth noting (for those who The six front panel knobs may be pressed to engage certain functions
essentially the same as a multiband compressor, but it uses EQ filter work at maximum levels) that intersample peaks are possible. As long or to change which parameter they adjust and can be rotated to
shapes to make very accurate adjustments rather than broad as users understand this, and make provision after MM-1, all is well. adjust the chosen parameter. The retro-styled but informative front
brushstrokes. It doesn’t seem like a big difference, but once you use The Deess plug-in features two independent bands and was panel display indicates which parameter is being affected and the
it, you’ll understand. In use, you create a band as you normally originally suggested by Softube’s own Paul Shyrinskykh who worked current values of about a dozen parameters. The user can select a
would, except there’s now a little wheel around the gain knob that directly with Daniel Weiss to polish and include with the bundle. Daniel reverb preset and then choose between seven reverb types (small

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allows you to control the amount of dynamic EQ applied. There’s Weiss is famous for contending that many sibilant sources have room, room, hall, long hall, spring, plate, and tunnel), and then
even a little bypass button for checking your adjustment against multiple problem frequencies. For example, “s” sound resonances adjust Decay, Predelay, Color, and Mix of the chosen reverb. The

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the original sound to see if you’re helping or hurting. Now the Pro- usually reside in the 7 to 9 kHz area, while “ch” and “sh” sources can saturator section allows the user to choose from among FET,
Q 3 doesn’t offer the ability to change the attack and release like be below 4 kHz. Hence, two processing bands are available germanium, or discrete op-amp circuits, and then dial in the amount
some other plug-ins, but its Auto mode is naturally transparent in simultaneously. The lower band includes Notch (which I do not believe of Drive and Wet/Dry mix. Finally, each section may be bypassed and
most cases. I’m new to the dynamic EQ game, so I didn’t find exists on the original hardware), Band, and Shelf focus, while the the overall output level may be adjusted. The unit can handle a wide
myself distracted by the sound, but you may want to download the
demo and take it for a test drive if you suspect this may be a deal
breaker. I should add that there is an independent threshold control
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higher band is Band or Shelf. Solo lets you hear the only the processing
band. Monitor provides the difference. A scalable FFT display and
graphic control of parameters means you can target offending sounds
quickly. In my experiences, the only other digital de-esser that comes
range of balanced line levels up to +24 dBu, so overloading the input
is not really an issue. There is no Hi-Z instrument input as this unit
is meant to connect directly to a DAW interface or analog mixer.
should you want more flexibility. Audified provides both a plug-in and a standalone application,
The takeaway is that having an amazing EQ with dynamic EQ close to the quality of the Weiss is the DeEsser engine in the TC which allows for control of all the R1’s parameters from a computer
capability in a single plug-in is seriously powerful. For someone Electronic System 6000 [Tape Op #43]. Prior to Softube’s release, users via a USB connection. I loaded the plug-in and connected the
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who’s regularly trying to minimize the number of plug-ins that I’m had to spend five figures for this level of performance. I can’t say provided USB A to micro USB cable and explored the plug-in with
using (with the aim of maintaining the tone that I worked so hard enough good things about this de-esser. The notch filter can be as PreSonus Studio One [Tape Op #86] and Pro Tools [#126] – both
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to achieve in the first place), this is key to my workflow. I close an approximation to going back in time and moving the mic as worked very well. My workflow became using the plug-in to choose
regularly use the FabFilter’s multiband compressor plug-in Pro-MB any automated processor can do. Unfortunately, the real hardware will a starting preset (including reverb and saturation type) and then
[Tape Op #101], so eliminating an unnecessary plug-in instance go down to 20 Hz vs. Deess’ 2 kHz. I would love to use this guy to sit dialing in the sound using the R1’s front panel knobs. This operation
on bass instruments, so I was bummed about this – until I realized
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on occasion is music to my ears. It’ll be up to you to decide if the gives the user the best of both worlds: the ease of selecting settings
Pro-Q 3 is giving you sound you want, or if you need to bring out such power was built into the next title. via software and then fine-tuning the sound using physical knobs.
more to get your desired sound. FabFilter offers a 30-day trial, so Originally, I used the Compressor/Limiter least of the group. I The plug-in saves all the settings and instantly recalls the preset
if any of this sounds remotely interesting, or if you want to see if defaulted to the main interface for compression. However, getting when a DAW session is opened or a preset is recalled from the
the new features and streamlined workflow are worth upgrading sounds fast is valuable in a production environment (sometimes you standalone app.
from your current plug-in situation, give the Pro-Q 3 a fair shake. don’t want to adjust all five Weiss release parameters). Then I noticed I found the reverb sounds to be competitive with many DAW
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($179 direct; fabfilter.com) -Dave Hidek you can compress selectively, with low and band-pass filters. plug-in reverbs, and I particularly liked the dry ambience and

Softube Customizing settings is rapid with the Frequency display. You can
change the frequency, threshold, and width of the filters. Each
dimension created when the decay times were turned down very low.
Overall, I would characterize the R1 as excellent for ‘80s’ style synth
Weiss DS1-MK3 bundle parameter has its own click area on the widget. To change the value and drum reverb. The sound reminded me of the dense and
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Softube is one of the most acclaimed emulation developers, so it setting, click and drag the selected click area. Done. sometimes metallic sound of the Lexicon PCM 60 reverb. The color
was a surprise that their release of the Weiss DS1-MK3 mastering If you’ve used the DS1-MK3 hardware version you will be knob provided broad tonal options and each of the saturation circuits
compressor was not a model – it’s a line-by-line source transfer of the comfortable with this software version. If not, you’re probably going offered a unique flavor. As far as the Saturator goes, Audified spared
real thing. Somehow, Softube convinced Daniel Weiss to hand over the to want the bundle anyway. Softube’s presentations are attractive no expense when they chose to use a socketed 8-pin discrete op-
code block for his digital hardware Weiss DS1-MK3. Normally this would and offer both a fresh perspective and controls that are not available amp, a discrete FET, and germanium circuits. I do wish an input gain
be sufficiently big news, but Softube did not stop there. As of writing, in the real world incarnation. With a higher resolution than the knob was included to allow even more saturation range as I especially
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three additional titles (the MM-1 Mastering Maximizer, the Deess de- original (32-bit/192 kHz) and as many instances as your CPU will enjoy the synthy overdrive characteristic of an extremely overloaded
esser, and Compressor/Limiter plug-ins) are part of the product line. All permit, the Softube Weiss DS1-MK3 mastering bundle is one of the API 2520-style op-amp. Saturating the output of the reverb provides
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use the Weiss processing engine, but Softube has developed most important tools for high-fidelity transparent mastering on the a surprising amount of variation to the reverb’s character and adds
streamlined controls with never before seen graphics for each version. market. I can’t function without the de-esser. I’m sure one or more to the R1’s flavor palette. The R1 draws a considerable amount of
The main DS1-MK3 GUI embodies the $10,000 hardware right down of these titles will be as useful to you as well. power for a 500 Series module, but both my API and Lindell
to the graphic display. Known for an ergonomic one-button-per-feature (bundle $549, individual $299, free demo; www.softube.com) lunchboxes [Tape Op #119] handled the unit with no issues.
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interface, the plug-in can be controlled via mouse or scroll wheel and -Garrett Haines <treelady.com> ($1399; shop.audified.com) Adam Kagan <mixer.ninja>
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