A Special Episode for Kids:

The Fear Facer

Hosted by Michael Barbaro, produced by Julia Longoria and edited by Wendy Dorr,
with help from Lynsea Garrison, Jazmín Aguilera and Marc Georges

Ella Maners’s fears were taking over her life — until she went to summer camp.

Sunday, September 29th, 2019

Julia Longoria: ​Oh, what’s that?
Ella Maners: ​That — my dream catcher? Oh, it’s called a dream catcher. So, I
guess it, like, catches bad dreams, but hasn’t been working so good.
Julia Longoria: ​Oh, yeah? Have you had some bad dreams lately?
Ella Maners: ​Yes, I’ve had some last night.
Julia Longoria: ​Really? What did you dream about last night?
Ella Maners: ​I don’t even really remember.
Julia Longoria: ​Yeah, I always forget my dreams, too. I try sometimes to write
them down, so I can remember them. Do you ever do that?
Ella Maners: ​No, ma’am. I’m still working on spelling. So —
Julia Longoria: ​Gotcha. That makes sense.
[Music]
Archived Recording (Michael Barbaro): ​From The New York Times, I’m Michael
Barbaro.
Ella Maners: ​O.K., that would probably be really hard to say — Michael Barbar —
I don’t know. Is that his last name? Michael Babar?
Julia Longoria: ​Barbaro, yeah.
Ella Maners: ​Oh!
Julia Longoria: ​Yeah. So why don’t we try it?
Ella Maners: ​O.K.
[Music]
Ella Maners: ​For The New York Times, I’m Ella. This is “The Daily,” kids’ edition.
Today, we are talking about fears and how to face them.
Julia Longoria: ​It’s Sunday, September 29.
Ella Maners: ​(WHISPERING) I have to be really close to the light. [PHONE
RINGING] Hello?
Michael Barbaro: ​Hello?
Katie Maners: ​Michael?
Michael Barbaro: ​Hi, is this Ella?
Ella Maners: ​That was my mom talking, but now it’s me. Is that Michael?
Michael Barbaro: ​Hi, Ella.
Ella Maners: ​Hi.
Michael Barbaro: ​Are you wearing headphones? How does it feel?
Ella Maners: ​Great.
Julia Longoria: ​All right, cool. And then —
Michael Barbaro: ​My colleague Julia Longoria traveled to Nashville, Tennessee, to
record our conversation with Ella Maners and her mother, Katie Maners. It
feels O.K.?
Ella Maners: ​Yes, sir.
Michael Barbaro: ​Are you calling me sir?
Ella Maners: ​Yes, sir.
Michael Barbaro: ​You don’t have to do that. I appreciate it. But —
Ella Maners: ​Got it. How are you hearing me through this microphone?
Michael Barbaro: ​I’m not actually hearing you through the microphone. I’m
hearing you through the phone, but then, eventually, a lot of people are going
to hear you through the microphone.
Ella Maners: ​I don’t get it.
Michael Barbaro: ​Yeah. I don’t get it either. I thought that we might begin with
just a couple of really basic questions. How old are you?
Ella Maners: ​I just turned 9.
Michael Barbaro: ​And since you’re in, Ella, your bedroom?
Ella Maners: ​Mm-hmm.
Michael Barbaro: ​I wonder if you could describe a little bit of your surroundings.
Just a couple of things in that room that mean something to you.
Ella Maners: ​Everybody in here. My bunk bed, and my stuffed animals.
Michael Barbaro: ​Can you tell me about those stuffed animals?
Ella Maners: ​I got a unicorn named Uni, and Bun Bun is my favorite, which is a
bunny. She has O.C.D.
Michael Barbaro: ​Bun Bun has obsessive-compulsive disorder?
Ella Maners: ​Yes, sir. I mean, yes.
Michael Barbaro: ​So Ella, I know that you have been through a lot this last year. So
I wanted to talk about that, with you and with your mom. Is that — does that
sound fine?
Ella Maners: ​Yeah.
Michael Barbaro: ​Let me start by asking you about your biggest fears. What are
you most scared of?
Ella Maners: ​Throwing up, tornadoes, fires, Windex, monsters and going upstairs
by myself, or in the garage.
Michael Barbaro: ​And among those, because that’s a fair number of fears, what
would you say are the biggest? The things that you’re most afraid of?
Ella Maners: ​Getting sick, and, like, tornadoes. We have, like, tornado watches
here.
Archived Recording: ​[SIREN] Hazard, tornado.
Ella Maners: ​And the worst thing is our tornado siren is right beside our house.
Archived Recording: ​This dangerous storm will be near Nashville around 7:40
p.m. Central Standard Time. Take cover now.
Ella Maners: ​So you can hear it, like, really clear.
Archived Recording: ​[SIREN]
Ella Maners: ​It’s loud. It’s really loud.
Archived Recording (Speaker 1): ​Oh, my God.
Archived Recording (Speaker 2): ​It’s a twister! It’s a twister!
Archived Recording (Speaker 1): ​Like the apocalypse is coming.
Katie Maners: ​That’s just kind of where her mind goes.
Archived Recording: ​[SCREAMING]
Michael Barbaro: ​Mm-hmm.
Ella Maners: ​But we have never had a tornado actually hit our house.
Michael Barbaro: ​That’s good.
Ella Maners: ​Yes, sir. Or yes.
Katie Maners: ​Obsessive-compulsive disorder is not what I imagined it to be. I
pictured mainly the compulsive side of O.C.D., hand washing over and over,
checking locks, or things like that. And with Ella, in particular, her O.C.D.
focuses more on the obsession. Obsessive thoughts of vomiting, of tornadoes.
Ella’s compulsion is actually avoidance. She will do anything to avoid the
situations where vomit, tornado could happen.
Ella Maners: ​O.C.D. is just something that’s telling you that scary things are going
to happen to you.
Katie Maners: ​It took what Ella had a fear of —
Ella Maners: ​Vomit, tornadoes.
Katie Maners: ​— and just made that fear just enormous.
Archived Recording: ​[SIREN] [SCREAMING]
Ella Maners: ​When I found out that I had O.C.D., I feel like it changed my life a
lot.
Michael Barbaro: ​How so?
Ella Maners: ​It was harder for me to do a lot of different stuff that other people
can do, and it was just harder, I feel like.
Katie Maners: ​The first time, it was just your typical school day. And I get to the
carpool line at school, and I drive up. And instead of Ella walking to our car,
her teacher does. And I kind of roll down the window, a little confused. Going
like, O.K., where’s Ella? And that’s when she told me, Ella won’t leave the
classroom. And of course, I’m going, what do you mean she won’t leave the
classroom? And when I got to her classroom, she was literally —
Ella Maners: ​I just remember I was, like, screaming on the floor, if I moved, I was
going to get sick.
Katie Maners: ​Knees up her chest, arms wrapped around her. She was tucked into
a little ball, and she was just laying on the floor, crying. And she was able to
say, like, if I move, I think I’m going to get sick. Or if I stand up, I’m going to
get sick.
Ella Maners: ​I am going to get sick. I am going to get sick. I am going to get sick. I
am going to get sick. I am going to get sick.
Katie Maners: ​There was not one thing I could say. You’re going to be O.K., you
know? You’re not going to get sick —
Ella Maners: ​I am going to get sick.
Katie Maners: ​— that helped her.
Ella Maners: ​I am going to get sick.
Katie Maners: ​She was just stuck.
Ella Maners: ​I am going to get sick.
Katie Maners: ​Her brain was stuck —
Ella Maners: ​I am going to get sick. I am —
Katie Maners: ​— on this one thought of I’m going to get sick. Ella was basically
paralyzed with her fear. And I ended up just having to literally pull her off the
floor and carry her to my car.
Ella Maners: ​I am going to get sick.
Katie Maners: ​We didn’t know that the things we were doing — the reassuring
her, you’re not going to get sick — those were really amplifying her O.C.D. And
the next thing that really pushed us was the day we got the phone call from the
principal that told me there had been just a routine tornado drill at school.
Michael Barbaro: ​Ella, can you tell me what happened that day?
Ella Maners: ​Well, it was cold outside. So I was wearing two jackets. The tornado
drill was at the end of the day.
[Siren]
Katie Maners: ​Hearing the siren really just kind of sent Ella into that state of
all-consuming fear.
Ella Maners: ​I was telling myself, like, no, I’m not going to get sick.
Michael Barbaro: ​So you kind of tried to talk yourself out of it?
Ella Maners: ​Yeah. And I didn’t take the two coats off. And it was, like, really hot
inside, and it was really thick coats. And we had to duck our heads down, even
though it was just fake. We were — to just make sure we knew what to do.
Michael Barbaro: ​And what did you do?
Ella Maners: ​I went to the bathroom with everybody. We ducked our head, and
then, um, and then I threw up.
[Siren]
Katie Maners: ​I mean, when they told me it was like, oh my gosh, poor child. How
much worse could it get. [LAUGHS] Had to be a tornado, and it had to be
vomit. It was her two worst fears in one.
Michael Barbaro: ​And what did that experience do to your fears?
Ella Maners: ​It just made them worse, really.
Katie Maners: ​These fears just kind of consumed her. They kind of consumed her
life.
Ella Maners: ​There have been some boys that bullied me before.
Michael Barbaro: ​Can you tell me what kinds of things they would say?
Ella Maners: ​Somebody has said to me, like, you’re not that good as, like, other
people, because you have O.C.D.
Michael Barbaro: ​Hmm. That’s horrible.
Ella Maners: ​I started crying.
Katie Maners: ​When you start to see her not be able to do the things that she’s
been able to do, it’s when, as a parent, you go O.K. We’ve really got to get on
this.
Ella Maners: ​Yeah. I realized that we had to do it the hard way.
[Music]
Michael Barbaro: ​What do you mean, the hard way?
Ella Maners: ​I don’t really know.
Michael Barbaro: ​[LAUGHS]
Ella Maners: ​Um —
Julia Longoria: ​What’s up?
Ella Maners: ​In a second, do you want to talk by yourselves so I can have a break?
Michael Barbaro: ​Do you want a break, Ella?
Ella Maners: ​Please?
Michael Barbaro: ​Yeah, Ella. If you want a break, I would completely understand.
Julia Longoria: ​Take a break.
Ella Maners: ​Right now?
Julia Longoria: ​Yeah, go for it.
[Music]
Ella Maners: ​We’ll be right back. Don’t leave.
Julia Longoria: ​Tell them you’re ready.
Ella Maners: ​Ready?
Michael Barbaro: ​Yep.
Ella Maners: ​Action!
Michael Barbaro: ​O.K., so once you determined that you have to do something —
Katie Maners: ​Yes.
Michael Barbaro: ​— what do you do?
Katie Maners: ​My husband and I, we just started researching. I did so much
reading on O.C.D., the best treatment options for it.
Ella Maners: ​Too much.
Katie Maners: ​Ella just said, “Too much.” And came to the conclusion that Ella
needed some intense therapy. So that’s how we came across the Fear Facers
Camp that they put on two times a summer.
Michael Barbaro: ​Fear Facers?
Ella Maners: ​Mm-hmm!
Katie Maners: ​It is for children that have obsessive-compulsive disorder or other
anxiety disorders. It is put on by the University of Florida and — sorry, Ella is
making funny faces.
Michael Barbaro: ​So Ella, just based on the name, it sounds like this is a place
where kids go to confront their fears?
Katie Maners: ​Yes.
Ella Maners: ​O.K., mom, stop talking. It’s my time to shine.
Katie Maners: ​Sorry, Ella. It’s your time to shine.
Ella Maners: ​Yeah.
Katie Maners: ​Go for it.
Ella Maners: ​Burn.
Michael Barbaro: ​So Ella, tell me about what you first thought when you heard
about this camp, of Fear Facers?
Ella Maners: ​I was excited but nervous at the same time. And I was not ready for
the drive.
Michael Barbaro: ​The drive?
Ella Maners: ​Yes.
Michael Barbaro: ​The long drive.
Ella Maners: ​Yes.
Julia Longoria: ​Do you remember what you played on the radio?
Ella Maners: ​When I’m sad, I love hearing emotional songs. Because I don’t know
why. Like, Calum Scott, “You Are the Reason.”
Archived Recording (Calum Scott): ​(SINGING) You are the reason that I’m still
breathing.
Ella Maners: ​(SINGING) Climb every mountain. And swim every ocean.
Archived Recording (Calum Scott): ​Just to be with you. And fix what I broke.
Ella Maners: ​So we just arrived from Nashville to Gainesville.
Michael Barbaro: ​As you arrive, can you describe what it looks like?
Ella Maners: ​There’s tons of parking lots, and it wasn’t a spend-the-night camp.
You should just look it up.
Michael Barbaro: ​O.K. Let me do that. [TYPING] Fear Facers Camp. I’m looking
for the photos.
[Music]
Michael Barbaro: ​There aren’t really a lot of photos. There really are almost no
photos.
Ella Maners: ​I could tell that was, like, a really nice place. It kind of looked like a
church.
Michael Barbaro: ​So what was the first thing that you did when you got there?
Ella Maners: ​I got to meet my counselors, and I named my O.C.D. Ocie.
Michael Barbaro: ​Ocie? And why did you do that?
Ella Maners: ​I just like the name.
[Music]
Katie Maners: ​If you give that O.C.D. a name, it helps them identify. Like O.K., is
this me thinking, or me being scared, or is this O.C.D.? Or in Ella’s case, is this
Ocie being scared?
Julia Longoria: ​And tell me about Ocie.
Ella Maners: ​I always just picture him being like he’s a bubble inside my brain.
He’s a little bubble blue. It’s blue, because blue is my favorite color. I don’t
know why.
Julia Longoria: ​Why did you give Ocie your favorite color, you think?
Ella Maners: ​I don’t know.
Julia Longoria: ​Is it kind of like Ocie’s a little bit a part of you? Like, it’s always
going to be there?
Ella Maners: ​Yeah. It would always be there. She or he’s just sneaky.
Julia Longoria: ​Sneaky?
Ella Maners: ​Yeah.
Julia Longoria: ​Sneaky how?
Ella Maners: ​You don’t know what he’s going to do.
[Music]
Ella Maners: ​Hetells me, or she, tells me, like, I am going to get sick.
Ocie: ​I am going to get sick. I am going to get sick. I’m going to get sick.
Ella Maners: ​And I say, I’m not going to get sick. I’m not going to get sick. And
that makes it worse.
Ocie: ​I am going to get sick.
Ella Maners: ​I’m not going to get sick.
Ocie: ​I am going to get sick.
Ella Maners: ​I’m not going to get sick.
Ocie: ​I am going to get sick. I am going to get sick. I am going to get sick. I am
going to get sick.
Ella Maners: ​So they told me to talk to Ocie like different.
Ocie: ​I am going to get sick. I am going to get sick. I am going to get sick.
Ella Maners: ​To help Ocie get defeated, you can say, yes, I am going to get sick.
Yes, I am going to get sick. Yes, I am going to — yes, I am going to get sick. I
am going to get sick. I don’t know how, but it defeats Ocie. ‘Cause it’s like —
Ocie: ​Ow. No fair.
[Music]
Katie Maners: ​Just so Ella’s O.C.D. can have a friend, I named my O.C.D. Ocinda.
I discovered, like, O.K., I definitely have a little O.C.D. in me. I check my stove
at night. We have a gas stove, and I always check, and I can’t just look at it. I
have to feel that the little lines are facing off.
Archived Recording (Violet Crawley): ​Because I want the pleasure of saying I told you
so.
Katie Maners: ​Ocinda, in my mind, is just like Violet, the grandmother character
—
Archived Recording: ​I think Granny is right.
Archived Recording (Violet Crawley): ​Can somebody write that down?
Katie Maners: ​— from “Downton Abbey,” who always has to have things a certain
way, and is very particular and picky, just nagging.
Archived Recording (Violet Crawley): ​Well, so what? I have plenty of friends I don’t
like.
Katie Maners: ​That’s what Ocinda would be. Ella, do you remember, we were
sitting on the basketball court?
Ella Maners: ​Oh, yeah.
Katie Maners: ​And we sat, and we listed all of your fears.
Ella Maners: ​Yeah.
Katie Maners: ​Zero, I’m not really scared of it, 10, biggest fear ever.
Ella Maners: ​Vomit. Ocie: Throwing up. Tornadoes. Ocie: Windex. Fires. Uh
—Ocie: And others.
Michael Barbaro: ​And so, Ella, what did the counselors do after you told them
about your fears?
Ella Maners: ​We did them.
Michael Barbaro: ​You did them?
Ella Maners: ​We kind of just did them. Or we — well, we did, like, exposures to
them.
Michael Barbaro: ​Exposing yourself to the thing that you’re most afraid of.
Ella Maners: ​Yes, sir. Or, yes.
Katie Maners: ​So at one point during the week, during Ella’s morning, they
tackled tornadoes.
Ella Maners: ​They would bring me into a room that nobody was in. Me and my
mom and my counselors, they would bring their iPad in there, to play
something on it.
Archived Recording: ​Really strong winds. We’re probably close to something here.
Ella Maners: ​The first thing that I watched was not too hard, and man I went up
to harder ones.
Archived Recording: ​[GUSTING WINDS] [DOG BARKING]
Ella Maners: ​The dog was running kind of to the tornado. I was like, no, doggie,
stay here! They didn’t take him along. I was like, I would just take the dog, too.
Then, after they just took me to the bathroom. And —

[Siren]
Ella Maners: ​— played the tornado siren. We re-did what happened when I got
sick. And we put two jackets on me.
Michael Barbaro: ​Wow.
Katie Maners: ​Everybody’s like, why two coats? Well, they really did try to create
the situation at school to really kind of put her back in that moment when she
was so fearful at school, and have her see, you can do this.
Ella Maners: ​I said, oh, no.
[Siren]
Ella Maners: ​The siren is getting louder and louder. Ocie started talking to me.
Ocie: ​There is going to be a tornado. There’s going to be a tornado.
Ella Maners: ​And I was like yes, there is. Yes, there is. Yes, there is. Yes, there is.
Ocie: ​Ow. No fair.
[Music]
Ella Maners: ​We kept doing it over and over again, and then it just kept getting
easier and easier. And then, the exposures for the day were, like, over.
Katie Maners: ​So after the first exposure, we moved to vomit. And of course, as
soon as we said that, Ella’s eyes got really big. It was like, wait. We’re already
going to do vomit? That’s one of the really hard ones. And so they explained
that we’re going to watch a video. And of course, her first response is like,
yeah, I don’t know about that.
Ella Maners:​I rated it a 10.
Katie Maners: ​Do you mind if I play it?
Ella Maners: ​Yeah. I don’t care, really.
Archived Recording: ​[SINGING]
They showed me the “Pitch Perfect,” which started with a 10. I knew
something was going to happen. But I didn’t know when. Whenever I watch
“Pitch Perfect,” my heart races.
Julia Longoria: ​Right now?
Ella Maners: ​Yeah.
Julia Longoria: ​Really?
Ella Maners: ​Yeah.
Julia Longoria: ​I’m sorry. Do you want to stop doing this?
Ella Maners: ​I’m going — I want to keep going.
Julia Longoria: ​O.K.
Archived Recording: ​[SINGING]
Ella Maners: ​So, I saw the sign, and I opened up my eyes. I saw the — bleh.
Archived Recording: ​[PUKING] Oh, no. Holy —
Ella Maners: ​There’s just vomit shooting out of her mouth. So bad. It’s like —
[PANTING] But like, kids, it’s worth it.
Archived Recording: ​[SINGING]
Ella Maners: ​Ocie was like, you are going to get sick.
Ocie: ​You are going to get sick. You are going to get sick.
Ella Maners: ​So I was like, yes, I am. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. And Ocie’s
like —
Ocie: ​O.K., fine. I give up.
Archived Recording: ​[SINGING]
Ella Maners: ​You realize that it wasn’t as scary as you thought. The more times I
watched it —
Archived Recording: ​[PUKING]
Ella Maners: ​— it helped better.
Katie Maners: ​After we left the room with the iPads, that is when we went to the
kitchen area and started the exposure of pretending to vomit up water.
Ella Maners: ​They took me to the sink, and we got water in our mouth, and then
we spit it out. But it would be kind of like we’d throw it up.
Michael Barbaro: ​So you kind of pretended to be throwing up?
Ella Maners: ​Yes, it was easy. ‘Cause I don’t know, it was just pretty easy on that.
And then we moved down to the bathroom, and that’s where everything got
trickier.
[Music]
Katie Maners: ​That definitely was hard. So these counselors grab a handful of the
really gross jelly beans that you play, like, Beanboozle with. So they taste like
vomit, or grass clippings, or whatnot. And I mean, God bless these counselors.
Because they’re the ones that ate the jelly beans, not Ella. Ella just had to
watch. And they chewed them up, and then pretended to vomit in the toilet.
Ella Maners: ​One girl almost actually kind of got sick, kind of was gagging.
Katie Maners: ​I don’t know if it was the taste of the jelly beans, or if it was just gag
reflex. But it really sounded like she got sick. And that’s when Ella just really
lost it. They were saying, O.K., Ella. Why don’t you look to see if she got sick?
And she did not want to look to see if she got sick.
Ella Maners: ​They would ask me my rating. I said 10. I refused to look in the
toilet. And I was crying, and my mom was crying.
Katie Maners ​I stepped out of the stall, because I think my emotion was upsetting
Ella more.
Ella Maners: ​She said, this is too much. Like, why?
Michael Barbaro: ​So Katie, it sounds like you’re starting to question this whole
exposure thing?
Katie Maners: ​Yes. I had doubts. Did we make the right decision doing this? Is
this really going to help her? And you know, I remember being outside, and
just going like, is this how it’s supposed to be? And they were like, yes. You
know, she’s — this is hard. This is going to be a hard moment for her. But she’s
going to have a moment in there where she realizes she can do this.
Ella Maners: ​I was like, why did I come to camp? This is not fun. My mom was
like, she’s not going to want to come back tomorrow. But they wouldn’t let me
leave. So I had to do it. So they took a picture with my mom’s phone.
Katie Maners: ​So they said, O.K. How about we take a picture, and you look at the
picture.
Michael Barbaro: ​Picture of?
Katie Maners: ​Of inside — I mean, you know, the toilet. And Ella wouldn’t look at
it at first, and covered her eyes, and they were like, Ella, let’s try to look at it.
Ella Maners: ​I looked at the picture inside the toilet.
Katie Maners: ​They said that she just kind of just stared at it, like, made herself
look at it. And she just eventually took two steps and —
Ella Maners: ​I looked inside the toilet, actually, without the picture.
Michael Barbaro: ​Hmm.
Ella Maners: ​They only made me look at it once. I was so scared. But it’s like,
worth it.
[Music]
Katie Maners: ​I was outside the bathroom talking with one of the doctors. And we
heard them cheering inside. Just Ella’s counselors, just going crazy in the
bathroom. And so we literally made, like, a tunnel for her to go through
coming out of the bathroom, and we all, like, cheered, and high-fived her. And
the first thing she did was come over to me and give me a big hug. Of course
she’s got kind of red eyes. And I was like, what was it like? She was like, I was
proud of myself. Like, I felt brave. And I hadn’t heard her say that in a really
long time.
Ella Maners: ​I felt really good after I did all these exposures. I felt good. I felt
happy. I felt brave. I felt everything, really.
Katie Maners: ​I’ve always said, you know, we will sit with you in the bottom of the
pit. And we’ll just get through it. We’ll get through it together. And at some
point, everybody’s going to be at the bottom of the pit. No one’s life is perfect.
And I think the younger they are, and can start learning to be there, and work
themselves back up, I mean, that’s an advantage. Ugh, sorry. It’s like, hard
months. So worth it. I mean, we’ve — gosh. She’s going to be an amazing adult.
Michael Barbaro: ​Ella, there are a lot of kids who have O.C.D.
Ella Maners: ​Yeah.
Michael Barbaro: ​There are also a lot of kids who have major fears, even if they
don’t have O.C.D. But most kids don’t go to a special camp to face their fears.
So what would you say to a kid like that? What kind of advice would you give
him or her?
Ella Maners: ​First, I would say hi. And then I would be like, just do kind of what I
do. Like, do strategies what I do. Or, like, say, yes, I am. Yes, I am. Kind of like
that. And hopefully it will get better.
Michael Barbaro: ​Do you think it took away those fears?
Ella Maners: ​No, sir. No.
Michael Barbaro: ​If you have these fears now, how are they different?
Ella Maners: ​They aren’t as scary.
[Music]
Michael Barbaro: ​Ella,I’ve really enjoyed getting to know you in this conversation
very much. And you’re very brave.
Ella Maners: ​Thank you? Thank you.
Michael Barbaro: ​Thank you. And thank you, Katie.
Katie Maners: ​Thank you.
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Chris Wood, Jessica Cheung, Alexandra Leigh Young, Jonathan Wolfe, Lisa
Chow, Eric Krupke, Marc Georges, Luke Vander Ploeg, Adizah Eghan, Kelly
Prime, Julia Longoria, Sindhu Gnanasambandan, Jazmín Aguilera, M.J. Davis
Lin, Dan Powell, Austin Mitchell and Sayre Quevedo. And then our theme
music is from Jim Brunberg and Ben Landsverk of Wonderly.
Julia Longoria: ​Some of the music in this episode was composed by Alexander
Overington. And special thanks to Donna De La Cruz, who originally reported
this story.
Ella Maners: ​Special thanks to Sam Dolnick, Mikayla Bouchard, Stella Tan and
Julia Simon.
Julia Longoria: ​There’s, like, a huge team.
Ella Maners: ​Oh! O.K.
Julia Longoria: ​We all work together to make the show every day.
Michael Barbaro: ​That’s it for “The Daily.” I’m Michael Barbaro. See you
tomorrow.
Ella Maners: ​Vomit and tornadoes.
Julia Longoria: ​Talk right into the microphone.
Ella Maners: ​Vomit and tornadoes.
Julia Longoria: ​One more time.
Ella Maners: ​Vomit and tornadoes.
Julia Longoria: ​Sing it again.
Ella Maners: ​Vomiting and tornadoes. Cool