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I have not been modelling extensively in ETABS this recently so this
Wind load is intimidating for me, query from a former 後輩 (こうはい) had my technical engine humming
perhaps because the governing
lateral load is earthquake for most
once more.
buildings that I've handled. So
consequently, I grew more familiar
with seismic loading and became a
lot more distant regarding wind She sent me the table below of the modal participating mass ratios
loads.
Sure it is easy just plugging values extracted from ETABS and asked what’s wrong with her model. Now
in equations but what I'm not very
confident about, is how and when let’s elaborate what’s wrong, the seemingly wrong and the nothing
to apply what. It takes insight and
deep understanding to do that. wrong. (For clarity, you can download the image here.)
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#1 – Probably nothing wrong here but a lot of old timers like me
would say that the first mode torsion is out of place. Ideally, the first
two modes should be translation. Torsion should only come third or
later.
#2 – The second mode is the translational vibration of the structure
along X. Why X? The maximum percentage along the UX column
73.03%, is directed along X hence the period along X should be the
period at mode 2 which is 0.885 sec. Notice also that it’s
corresponding UY is almost 0 which means model rotation or
application of an angle to the spectral forces is not required.
#3 – The third mode is the translational vibration of the structure
along Y. You can follow the same logic as specified on #2. Period
along Y = 0.756 sec. Compared to 0.0001 UX, we can assume that it is
predominantly directed along Y.
#4 – Why did I highlight this? UBC 1631.5.2 states that 90% of the
mass participation should be reached. In the table above, neither UX
nor UY achieved this. So more modes are required to reach it? It’s
either yes or no. Yes because you need to add more modes until you
reach 90%. No because as you have observed, the sum is fixed from
mode 3 which should tell you that something’s fishy and incorrect.
#5 – The same reason why mass participations did not reach 90% is
because there is no mass added, it’s zero. This should raise a red flag
now because there is nothing right or normal about it (read:
something’s wrong with the model!)
There you have it. If it’s your first time to see this table or you’re not
yet able to tell something about your ETABS model just by looking at
this, don’t worry. You just have to do this very often and have a senior
engineer who can assist you so that you’ll grow your mental
structural muscle.
By the way, this is one of the sensibility checks in ETABS involving
dynamic analysis, hence this is something fundamental that you must
commit to heart and memory.
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