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Lymphatic Truth Bombs
Kelly Kennedy
Shivan: Hi. Okay. We have an incredible session.
This is Kelly Kennedy. She is known as the Lymph
Queen. I’m Shivan Sarna, but you knew that. I’m
glad you’re here.
Listen, if you are serious about getting well or you
have questions like I think the lymphatic system
is important, pretty sure it is, but I need to know
why and how and what to do about it.
It’s one thing to know something’s important,
but it’s another thing to know how to do about it.
Like I need better sleep. Yeah, that’s true. If you
don’t know what to do about it, same thing. I need
enlightenment, yeah, but if you don’t know how to
meditate or be a good person, right.
Here she is to tell you more about that. She’s
going to be talking about busting some myths and
some adventures and some great strategies and
why she is known as the Lymph Queen. Take it
away, Kelly. Hi.
Kelly: Hi, and thank you so much. It’s been such a
pleasure to get to know you throughout this, and
thank you so much for having me on, and more
than anything, I will say it again, thank you for
being the one that created The Lymph Summit.
I’m a little shocked that I didn’t think about it, but
when I heard that you were doing it, I was like,
oh my God, I’m so excited to do this with you
because this is the conversation that I felt that
nobody was having in my 20 years of practice.
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I’m not a doctor. I’m a biological investigator. I’m
an unlicensed practitioner, and I’ve been working
with the desperately ill. I’ve been everywhere,
tried everything on clients for 20 years. And the
lymph was the answer. And I started to really
understand the lymphatic system through all my
training in Europe.
And I really was like, why isn’t anybody talking
about this? And then I looked for everything
out there, and I had people dry brushing and
rebounding. We’re going to talk about all these
things. And I had them exercise volume and
hanging upside down and doing yoga poses and
doing this internet thing.
And I have quantitative assessments that I do at
our center. And a year later, I’m like, yeah, your
lymph is negligibly better. Like you worked your
butt off all year, and hardly anything moved.
And then I started getting trained from Desiree
De Spong, who’s this expert in New Zealand who
really was teaching people how to work the lymph
through a manual pumping technique and some
other technology.
And I started getting her training, and I started
to go, whoa, this is why it’s so important because
the lymphatics for those that are listening
versus watching, the lymph dumps into your
cardiovascular system and the lymph ends on top
of your clavicles. But what is the lymph? Well, the
lymph is your toxic waste dump. We have three
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times more lymphatics than we do, lymph fluid,
than we do blood.
Thank you for that reaction. Yes, because
everybody’s like, I want to look at my blood
work. I want to see what blood labs are doing,
but nobody’s looking at the lymph, and yet your
lymph is in charge of toxic waste dump.
That’s your immune challenges, as well as your
metals, your chemicals, your improper foods, and
your emotions, and all the things that make us
sick because it’s never one thing that causes one
thing.
We know that from Shivan’s wonderful SIBO
Summit that it’s always multi-causational. And
we’ve got to look at all these things, our lifestyle,
our emotional state in addition to our physical
stuff.
And the lymphatics is your physical dumpy. We all
have cars, and we all-- well, most of us have cars,
and we all change our oil in our car. But when
have you changed the oil in your body?
And I got involved in this like Shivan, who I had
a father. I had a parent rather that was very sick
with cancer growing up, and I wanted to not get
cancer. So I selfishly wanted to study to become a
doctor. So I went to Cornell, and they never talked
about the lymph system.
And then I got in a car accident, and I was living
on painkillers, muscle relaxers for many years till
I got introduced to this world. And then I got out
of pain, but my system wasn’t completely healed
yet because it was still trapped in my lymph, in my
fascia.
And the lymph and the fascia are really the house
that the bones and the blood live in because so
many of us think that the skeletal system is this
strict, rigid thing. Well, the skeletal system is lying
in the fluid, and the fluid is lying in a bag.
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And that bag is the fascia, and your fascia is under
your skin. So if you deskin me today, I would lay
there on the table and be a bag of fascia. And for
those of you who eat meat, if you have a turkey
or a chicken and you lift up the skin, and you see
that really thin cellophane-y like translucent stuff,
that’s your fascia.
You have superficial fascia and deep fascia. It
goes around every organ, and every tissue, and
every joint, and that houses the lymphatic. And if
that gets stagnant, if it gets what I call run in your
pantyhose, better known as a scar in your fascia,
then it will limit the lymph from flowing and the
flow, which is a thing that I talk about all the time,
flow, means that my fascia and my lymph are
moving so I have overall wellness—flow.
My fascia is opened. My lymph can move in every
area of my fascia because there’s no area in my
body I don’t want lymph to flow. Lymph does not
have its own pump, but it’s essentially part of our
circulatory system. When our heart is pumping
that blood throughout the body, we understand
that, but how do we move our lymph? We move
our lymph when we move.
So sitting home in a sedentary lifestyle is not ideal.
When we move, our emotions move, and our
lymph moves. The skeletal muscle actually moves
the lymph.
So moving, rebounding, vibration platforms, that’s
why you’re dry brushing, all this really subtle like
vibration, tickling-- actually tickling your neck will
also move your lymph because it creates--
If you tickle yourself enough to create arrector
pili, which are better known as goosebumps, but
I think arrector pili is a much cooler name. You’re
going to go ahead and tickle yourself a little bit.
That’ll get your lymph moving, just a little bit. So
we’re going to teach you all these different ways
you can do it, but I want you to understand why.
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If your toxins are not coming out faster than
they’re going in, you’re going to end up with
buildup. And build up you can handle a little bit,
maybe a little bit more, depending on the rain
barrel you came in with, which is based upon
your genetics and your lifestyle. It’s going to fill up
faster. It’s going to fill up slow.
The whole time it’s filling up, no symptoms. It
overflows, now there’s a symptom, and now
somebody wants to chase down the pollen that
makes me so crazy in the spring or the perfume
when I walked into the elevator, whatever that,
oh, I had gluten, and now gluten is the problem
versus, oh, I have silver fillings.
I have scars all over my body. I’ve improper
lifestyle. I eat the wrong foods. I think the wrong
improper thoughts. I have negative thoughts
thinking, whatever. The lymphatic system is about
letting go of toxins and letting go of emotions.
And the fascia is a house that’s really known as its
own nervous system.
So the house that the fascia really is, is its own
nervous system. It’s the emotional house. It’s been
known as where the body houses the emotional
traumas and dramas. So one, you got to make
sure the lymph is open. So I think of it like a dam.
If the lymph is dammed up, I want to not take a
sledgehammer and open the dam. I just want to
create a little tiny pinhole and let some of that
pressure out. And naturally, that pinhole will get
larger and larger as the dam can handle it. And
that’s how your lymph works.
We’re going to unplug your lymph by working the
fascia a little bit around the lymph nodes because
you have a network of lymph nodes, as well as
lymph vessels that go from literally your head
down to your toes.
So you have lymph throughout your whole body.
You have deeper nodes, typically where we have
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joints, where we bend, and you have these vessels
of the lymphatic system, and the vessels are what
get pumped when we move.
And the lymph moves in one direction. No way is
it going to go backwards because the valves just
don’t allow it. Lymph only moves in one direction.
And so the lymph is pushing this fluid through the
system and up here at top of our clavicles, again,
it dumps it. These are the endpoints. This is where
it ends.
And now it dumps into our heart, into the
cardiovascular system. Then the heart will pump
that through the lungs. We’ll breathe out more
toxins, but then the rest of the body will circulate,
and we’ll pee, poop, and sweat out the rest of the
toxins and bleed if you’re still of bleeding age.
That’s how we get toxins out.
The lymph system is the primary system that
allows the toxins to come out, and it’s done
through your pee, your poop, your sweat, your
breath, and your blood.
But if the lymph is clogged, maybe you don’t
sweat appropriately, maybe you don’t poop
appropriately, maybe you pee too much, maybe
you don’t bleed appropriately. These are all signs
that your lymph is off.
And honestly, Shivan, I feel like a broken record at
times because people are like, oh, so let me guess.
You’re going to talk about the lymph system. It’s
the lymph system.
But the reality is what we are up against as
organisms right now is can the toxins be
less going in and more coming out? Because
regardless of my lifestyle and I live a pretty
healthy lifestyle. I walk outside and breathe here
in the state of Pennsylvania.
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I got the third highest airborne level of mercury
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on the planet. I eat a completely organic diet. I
would say like a 98% organic diet. I know that 15%
of my diet still has Roundup in it. I can’t get away
from it. So I use nothing but natural skin stuff. I
still know that snuck in different ways. It’s hard to
get away from.
We live in toxic bowl of soup of toxins, honestly,
in this world. And if you lived really diligently, like
so many of us in this world do, then your lymph
system can handle all that’s going on.
But if you’re dealing with chronic illness or
symptoms, then you have an overflow already
because a lot of people go, oh, don’t you have
to have lymphedema in order to have a lymph
problem?
No. What you need to know is, do you have pits or
puffs? That’s the first question. All right. She’s got--
Do you have puffs or pits now? Oh, good. I got my
little assistant here to show me puffs because I
got pits. So it’s hard to show. Come on over. She’s
helping us out. This is Bree. So this is a puff. Oh,
this is good. We’ve never done this before. That’s
a pit.
Shivan: Nice.
Kelly: That’s an armpit. That’s an arm-puff. She’s
only worked with me for eight or nine months.
She’s getting there, but actually, it’s better than
last time I saw it.
Bree: I know.
Kelly: Yeah. And she had headaches, just a quick
example. She had headaches all the time when
we met her for years and years. And I kept saying
to her, well, you should do FLOWpresso like 10 in
like five weeks. And she’s like, yeah. It blows me
off—coronavirus.
She got hired like two months before coronavirus.
So over the last month, she finally did this suit
that she just brought in for me, like six or seven
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times.
Bree: Yeah. I think I’m up to like eight. I did one
yesterday.
Kelly: And your headaches are?
Bree: Significantly less.
Shivan: Oh, that’s great.
Kelly: And it’s not like she-- listen, she works out.
She’s a personal trainer. She knows how to lift.
She knows how to eat. She knows how to think.
She prays.
She’s spiritual. All of it. She’s got a dog. She’s got
a boyfriend. She’s a happy person. But she was
plagued with headaches because of a toxic load
that her body couldn’t get rid of.
Shivan: Thank you.
Bree: You are welcome.
Kelly: Thank you, Bree. So that now that we’re
moving her lymph, her body can drain out
the toxic load that was stuck in there. And her
headaches are reduced. That’s the only change
she’s made.
Shivan: That’s amazing. That’s great.
Kelly: Because it’s all about, can it go out faster
than it comes in? And if we have puffs like she
had, an arm-puff instead of an armpit, that’s an
indication of lymph stagnancy.
You can have a little swelling. Sometimes people
just look a little bit like fluidity. That’s lymphatic
stagnancy. Your lymph fluid isn’t mobilizing now.
That was a very long rant.
Shivan: That’s okay. It’s a great rant. Okay. I’ve got
a couple of questions because we’re going to get
to the solution to the problem, and that is tight
clothes, underwire bras. Are they the devil? Guys,
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with your tight belts. This isn’t just a lady issue.
Talk to me about that. And then we’ll get into
some more technical stuff.
Kelly: So on our website, a friend of mine,
Michelle Nelson, who we call her the Lymph Guru.
So we have Lymph Queen, Lymph Guru, Lymph
Goddess. We did a flow show.
We did about 20 episodes. It’s free. And it gives
you like the little things at home, the lifestyle
changes you can make and tight-fitting clothes is
one of the big ones because that’s creating a dam.
You want flow everywhere. If you have a wire
bra, you’ve created a dam right here. Nothing’s
moving. You got tight-fitting pants that are
creating an indent in your skin. There’s nothing
moving. Socks that leave imprints in your legs,
nothing’s moving.
So it is important to wear clothes that flow with
you, that allow the movement to happen within
your body. But I’d also recommend, like, I rarely sit
in all honesty.
It’s hard for me to do these podcasts, but I stand.
I have a standing desk. We all have standing desks
here at our center to give people the option. They
can sit, but most people stand.
Just standing will create that movement. But if
you’re sitting, it doesn’t matter the tightness of
your pants or not, what are you doing? You’re
cutting off your lymph here. No matter what you
do, you’re cutting off your inguinal lymph because
you’re sitting.
So the only way to remediate that is you have to
stand, and you move, and we’ve all felt it in the
car or in the movie theater—those two places. I’d
start to get antsy back in the day.
I had restless leg alleviated with lymphatics, but
that was just my body trying to move the lymph.
And about 45 minutes into a movie theater, I’m
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like, oh my God, get me out of here. Same on an
airplane.
Now that’s not the case because I’ve opened up
my fascia, moved my lymph. I can take it. And if
I need to, I manually pop my lymph, which we’re
going to show all you how to do today.
But before we do that, I want to go through dry
brushing real quick because we talked about the
endpoints of the lymphatic right here. They’re
called your termini. Okay.
So if the endpoints are here and they dump into
the cardiovascular system, I use the analogy of
a toll booth. Now take it for granted. I live on
the East Coast in Philadelphia, where the traffic
is horrendous, and we have toll booths, and we
have exits that lead up to the toll booths. But the
toll booth is where you have to pay the piper, so
to speak, and the toll booth of our lymph then
dump into the cardiovascular.
So that’s the end game. So if I have 50 cars lined
up behind the toll booth, who do I move first to
get my toll booth open? Do I move my 50th car
way down there at my toe, or do I move the first
car that’s in line that’s closest to the toll booth?
And for whatever reason, I have no idea how it got
started, but dry brushing has been taught to start
at your feet and move your way up.
And that makes no logical sense to me on a
physiological level for how the body works. If this
is draining and dumping, first, I have to open up
the endpoints. I got to get those open. I got to
pump, make sure that the toll booths are open. So
it’s a gentle pump. I pump that four or five times.
Now I’m going to move the car that’s closest to it.
My tonsils are really close to that. So I’m going to
pump my tonsils and get my tonsils to now move
all that garbage into the output and the output
back into the heart. Now, this is all open. Now my
dry brush, I’m doing manual pumping dry brush.
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It’s the same thing. You’re just using a different
action, but it’s the same philosophy and the same
flow. You always do want to go toward your heart.
Now you know why because your lymph drains
into your heart, but you have major vessels, not
only here, but in your tonsils, in your armpits, in
the middle of your abdomen at what’s called your
cisterna like in between your belly button and
your rib cage, like right here in the middle.
And then in your inguinal. I wore black. You can’t
really see it, but in your inguinal where you bend,
behind your knees and at your ankles and elbows
and wrists and neck. So everywhere I bend, I’ve
got deep lymph nodes. So when I’m dry brushing,
I’m making sure I’m hitting those points.
And when I’m pumping, I’m making sure I hit
those points. So I open up here. I drain that down.
Then I move this here. So I dry brush here first.
Then I’m going to get my armpit because my
armpit is going to drain into here. This is going to
drain into here. Once my armpit is open, now the
traffic is flowing, now I can move the cars that are
out here and move them and dry brush here.
You will feel very different when you dry brush
this way, and you start at the head and the neck
moving everything into the heart. Yes, but you
have to start up here first. Then your cisterna right
here drains your lower lymph, and your lower
lymph all drains in here. So you want to pump
that a couple of times.
I recommend when people do dry brushing, dry
brushing is great at the end of a case or if you’re
really healthy, but dry brushing is like taking
minerals alone, and you’re going to feel great.
For me, that’s great. For you, that’s great. We’ve
worked really hard on our health for a long time.
I’m sure all we need at this point is minerals.
Majority of people I meet, 80% of them, have a
metabolic disorder. They need a little bit more
than minerals, and their lymph has been stuck
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for a long time, years. Here’s what thickens it:
sedentary lifestyle, tight-fitting clothes, Wi-Fi,
radiation thickens your lymphatics.
Turn your Wi-Fi off at night. It’s one of the greatest
things you can do for your lymph is turn your Wi-
Fi off at night. Certain foods thicken your lymph.
Like all cow, dairy thickens your lymph. Not the fat
but the protein of the cow thickens your lymph.
It’s been known that bananas and raw onions
thicken your lymph.
So I’m not saying you shouldn’t eat bananas
and raw onions. I’m just saying, if you’ve got a
congestion, don’t go and eat a banana because
you’re going to make it worse. What do you do to
bind yourself up? You eat a banana because it’s
binding—same thing. Cranberries kind of look like
the lymph system, and they’re awesome for your
lymph.
Celery is great for your lymph because it’s mostly
water. Your lymph should be fluid like water. If
it’s fluid like water, the cardiovascular system
can pump it really easy, and we can move it if it’s
fluidly with a little dry brush.
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Just now, when I talk to people, and I teach them
dry brushing, I feel the drainage inside my body.
That’s unusual. Most people don’t feel it until
they’ve done some pumping because the fascia
releasing is basically what we’re doing at this
pumping.
So a fascial release is holding the fascial tissue
and allowing it to stretch. Like I think of fascial like
taffy. Remember when we were kids, and we eat
that horrible sugary taffy stuff that when it was
cold, it was hard.
And then, when you would hold onto it, it would
soften. It would start to melt. And that’s exactly
like your fascia. It’s why it’s called the melting
technique for your fascia because you melt your
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fascia.
And you’re really just like she was just doing.
You’re holding two points of your skin, gently
applying a little bit of counter pressure. And it’s
not like you’re pulling your skin.
You’re applying a little pressure. And what you
feel underneath your skin is this like give, all of
a sudden, occur. It’s a little give. And I feel so
different on this side than this side because I’ve
done this side and not this side.
So you want to do these things. That’s a little
fascia. So if you have a lot of tonsils that are
inflamed or you get a lot of sinus infections,
manually pump, dry brush, and open up the fascia
in the neck, bam, flow happens. And you’ll start to
get your toxins out.
Now, you might feel crappy when you start to
get your toxins out. It’s not our fault that your
toxins that are in your body are making you feel
bad, although I’ve been blamed multiple times,
but here’s the point. If I move my lymph, I feel
better. If you move your lymph and you’ve been
chronically ill for a long time, you feel like crap.
It doesn’t mean you shouldn’t move your lymph.
It means you should have moved your lymph a lot
earlier in the game, but there gets to be a tipping
point. I use this suit at this point primarily for my
lymphatic. I do a little manual in our office.
We have a couple of practitioners that do a
little manual full-body technique, but due to
coronavirus and due to the fact that this is also a
technology that just happened to come out at the
same time with coronavirus, nobody has to get
unclosed.
They can be in the room by themselves, and
they get wrapped up from feet, their legs, their
abdomen, a piece on their back, and their arms,
and the suit inflates.
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And it goes compress, release, compress, release,
compress, release, all the way up the body in
this beautiful sequence that feels like a wave.
It feels like a massage, but then it feels better
than massage, I believe, honestly, at some point
because it also has infrared in the panels. So all
your tissues start to soften for the fascia.
Plus, you’re also getting the mitochondria,
the activator part of yourself, or the energy
source activated. And then it also has pulsed
electromagnetic field technology in it that’s
applied specifically to help open up the emotional
wave.
And we create an experience with it. So we
cover your eyes. We give you some essential oils
because essential oils can put you into a different
mindset. It can also help stimulate your lymphatic
flow, depending upon essential oils.
And then we put earphones over your ears once
we get the settings properly to really desensitize
you because your lymph is your filter. And what
we want to do is drain your filter. We want to
add to your filter while you’re doing the work. So
we desensitize you. And what that also does is it
pulls you into you. And in all honesty, this suit was
created to help mobilize the lymphatics.
But that became the side effect. The primary
effect of the suit is to put somebody in that deep
state of healing called the parasympathetic mode,
and the body doesn’t heal unless you’re in that
mode.
And the lymph won’t move unless you’re in that
mode a little bit. Like you can move your muscles,
and you move your lymph a little bit. But as far as
the emotional components of the lymph, you got
to be in that deep state of relaxation.
And then the lymph will start to flow out. So we
always get our clients no matter where they’re
at in their case, and I’ve had lots of emails from
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people across the world and a lot of see that the
lymph should be in the beginning of your case,
should be in the middle of your case and honestly,
for the rest of your life. This is the one thing-- 200
years ago, we didn’t need lymph for the rest of
our lives.
I really know that coronavirus woke a lot of us up,
and we realized that, wow, we got to stop using
single-use stuff. We’ve got to treat our planet
better because boy, when we went inside for
those first few weeks, the planet just thrived.
Well, us humans have been eating bad food,
living a lifestyle that’s not conducive. So we are
dependent upon health practices often to do this,
but the deer and the rabbits don’t need to do
their lymph yet.
So that’s a good sign. We still have lots of time
to recover. Okay. So bottom line is, though, on
a long-term basis, once you get well, you should
always think if I have a symptom, my first thought
should be, I should go move my lymph and see if
it goes out because anything can cause anything.
The body is brilliant.
The wisdom inside here, the physician inside here,
is so much smarter than any physician on the
planet bar none. Okay. The innate intelligence is
what heals, end of story.
And so our job is to help assist that body to heal.
And if it’s overwhelmed trying to juggle 17 balls
of toxins inside the body rather than to get them
out, it’s going to have a real tough time healing.
When we can get that out, it can take over, and
it can do its magic, and alleviating that toxic load
allows all the other mechanisms to take over.
Allow that body to go into healing mode.
Shivan: This is exciting. How much water should
we be drinking to assist the flow?
Kelly: Great question. So, first of all, most people
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probably are dehydrated even though they sip
water all day because it’s not active water. So
number one is make sure it’s pure water, not
chlorinated water. Make sure it’s alive like spring
water. If you are filtering your water, which there
are situations where you have to filter it, your only
option, that’s fine, but re-energize your water.
You can structure water in many different ways.
You can pray to your water. You don’t have to do
anything other than that Master Emoto’s work.
Hey, be structured. Thank you. I love you. Just like
her other prayers. She’s a good prayer.
Talking to your water. If you’re not familiar with
Master Emoto’s work, please go look at it. Talk to
your water and go, oh, this glass of water is going
to help me mobilize my lymph better than any
other glass of water ever in my life and drink it
down.
And then sprinkle a little sea salt in your water.
Just a sprinkle of sea salt in your water will make
it a hydration point of-- it’s called a 22%. It makes
your water 22% hydrated so that it’s more active
on an ionic level, and your cells will take in the
water better. So if you’re drinking, sipping water
all day long, you feel like you’re pretty good
hydrated, add a little pinch of sea salt to your
water and see the change.
Shivan: Neat. Okay. And what about-- gosh, my
mind’s racing because I have so many questions
for you. You’re drinking that water. What about
the score to minerals in it, the liquid minerals that
are floating around?
Kelly: I love liquid minerals. Absolutely. Yeah.
Minerals are great, but ions or liquid minerals
don’t necessarily create ionic change. You need
some kind of electrolytes, and the primary for
electrolytes are sodium, potassium, magnesium,
and calcium.
Sodium and potassium are the two you need the
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most when you’re doing lymphatic work. So there
are a lot of electrolytes out there. I like Matrix
Electrolyte. Dr. Schaffner recommends that one as
well. I like also BodyBio. They have an electrolyte
mineral. They’re very good. And sea salt works
really well.
Shivan: What kind of sea salt do you prefer?
Do you have a brand you like? I’m very much
into going to Amazon and getting it or going to
somebody’s website and getting it because I don’t
want to go to my local grocery store and just get
like Morton salt.
Kelly: Yeah. That’s iodized salt. What you want
is sea salt like pink Himalayan salt. Honestly, I’m
a salt snob and a water snob. There’s a lot of
options of water at our house and a lot of options
of salt. So I like a variety because different sea
salt has different mineral content. So I’m all about
variety. So I do like Himalayan pink sea salt. That’s
on my table all the time. I like Real Salt, if you’re
familiar with that—Redmond Real Salt.
And I also like it’s just called Sea Salt, and it’s in a
blue container, and I can’t tell you the name of it,
but I’m not a big fan of people on the Amazon, but
that’s just my own thing.
I would like them to go to their local like
farmer’s market or their local co-op or their local
somebody like that and ask them who do you
know that has a good sea salt?
There’s a lot or good Himalayan salt, the pink salt
of some sort. And then there are some like how
they have those olive oil and vinegar shops. We
have two salt shops around us where you get
to go and taste all the salt, mushroom salt, and
salt fused with all this crazy stuff, but that’s just a
game.
Shivan: Yeah. Well, I went to a salt room the other
day, and that was cool. No, it’s fun.
Kelly: That’s the Himalayan pink sea salt because
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it creates ionic exchange so you can sit in a room.
I have them all over our office, the Himalayan sea
salt lamps. We also have a salt chamber that you
can go in. It grinds salt, and you breathe it in. And
that’s medical-grade salt because salt is healing.
And bottom line is we are tissue cell salts.
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When it’s all boil-down, I’m a cadaver, I die, you
burn me, and I’m going to end up being 12 tissue
cell salts. That’s all we are. Every mammal on the
planet is nothing but 12 tissue cell salts, which is
basically the precursor to a mineral.
Shivan: Interesting. So interesting. Okay. I know
there are a lot of people watching and listening
right now who are like, wait a minute. What is this
manual pumping business?
I want to know what I can do today to move it.
And I think it was kind of combined with dry
brushing in your explanation. So can you just
slowly, Reader’s Digest version, do the manual
pumping lesson for us one more time because I
want a pit, not a puff.
Kelly: That’s right. So we’re always going to start
our manual pumping up on top of our clavicles at
the line of our ears down into that neck part, and
you’re just going to pump it four or five times.
Shivan: Are you making little circles?
Kelly: Yeah. I’m pumping towards my back. And
I have a video that specifically denotes this on
NOTMEDS website. It’s about eight minutes long
that just goes through this. Then up at the tonsils.
I crossed my arms because it makes it easier.
And then you go down the tonsils, and again,
you’re pumping but at the direction that it’s going
down. So I’m pumping down, like I’ll exaggerate
my pump with my hand. Okay. Then I’m going to
this where the bra strap would lay. It’s called the
apical node. And I’m going to just pump there.

Shivan: Towards the heart?
Kelly: Towards the clavicle, actually, but yes.
Shivan: Okay. I noticed a change of taste in my
mouth.
Kelly: Excellent. That means your lymph is
moving, and that’s great. Does it taste like metal?
Shivan: Yeah. It tastes grody.
Kelly: Yeah. So now at the armpit, that’s the
hardest one to teach in all honesty, but you take
your finger, go deep into your armpit, and you
feel when your arm is down, you can feel that
most people have like a little sensitive area and
I’m deep in there, but it’s a little sensitive. There
you go.
Now, it looks like you’re doing this, but you’re
not. You’re going like this. It’s the hardest one to
teach. Then you’re going to go in your elbow. Then
you’re going to go to cisterna in here.
Shivan: What about the wrist?
Kelly: So if they have carpal tunnel or something
like that, I’ll do that. I don’t find this as a huge
congestion.
Shivan: Okay. Because they are moving all the
time.
Kelly: Yeah, exactly. Here, so that’s like between
your belly button and your rib cage about halfway,
and there you go, world. There’s my belly.
Shivan: That’s good.
Kelly: And then in my inguinal, so this one is a
little confusing too. So here’s my hand on my leg.
It’s actually the leg side, not my pelvis. And I’m
going to start up high towards my hip, open that
up.
And then I’m going to go in toward my inguinal
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pumping all of that because this is open, and I
want everything to move up here. Then this is
going to drain here. And then this is going to drain
up here, actually over here.
Shivan: Sorry. I didn’t mean to interrupt. If you’re
pulling it up, do you then need to move your hand
towards the belly again, or is it just going to do it
naturally?
Kelly: It should do it just naturally because you’ve
opened that up. You’ve stimulated, and now
the flow can occur. And sometimes you need
a practitioner to assist you after you’ve done it
for a while because you might feel stagnancy in
somewhere.
So you might need an expert to help you along
the way. And we can help you find those experts
if you don’t have one in your area that’s trained
in a very specific way that myself and Desiree De
Spong and Michelle Nelson, how we train people
to do this because it is very specific.
And we have some classes coming up. I have
an eight heart rate variability class coming up
in January. I have a lymphatic one-on-one class
coming up in February.
So those classes will be available online long-
term. I don’t know when this is airing necessarily,
but in 2021, we’re going to have a lot of classes
for people to teach about the lymph, a new book
coming out.
And then after you’ve pumped your inguinal, you
want to go down to behind your knee, and you
want to pump very gentle. This is known as the
danger zone just because it’s a sensitive area.
So you just want to pump gently, and I’m pumping
up towards my butt. And then again at the ankle,
pumping up. So it’s at the side right here. You’re
just pumping up.
And then, because I’ve learned throughout the

years now, once all that’s happened, I go back to
my termini and make sure they stay open because
I just moved 50 cars through my toll booth. I want
to make sure my toll booth stays open.
Shivan: Awesome.
Kelly: And I can feel the sweat occurring just from
doing that.
Shivan: That’s so awesome. So you’re sweating a
little bit, perspiring a little bit because the body’s
just gone into this detox mode. So before we
wrap, I just want to kind of talk about detox in
general because that word gets thrown around
like I ain’t got access.
Again, back to the idea of enlightenment, all these
huge concepts. And when we detox, if we’re doing
whatever the techniques but we’re not moving
the lymph properly, it’s not going to be efficient,
correct?
Kelly: I was just going to look up the definition of
detox just to see what it says because I couldn’t be
happier bringing this subject up because I agree.
Listen, I’m not a semanticist or whatever that
would be, a linguist, but words have meaning. And
I agree that people are throwing this word around
and not knowing what it means.
From biology, the definition of detox, yeah,
that’s-- you got to look up in a biology work
because Wikipedia will screw you up, but it’s the
cell dumping its toxins. That’s the definition of
detoxification. Intracellular dumping its garbage.
Well, where does the cell dump? It dumps into the
space around the cells, which is your lymphatics.
And the lymph is about drainage, not detox.
And your drainage should be a two to one ratio
of drainage over detox. You should not have to
assist your body to detox. That is its job. The job
is for the bowels to move every day. If it’s not
moving, you don’t need a colon cleanse.
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You need to probably change your lifestyle. A
colon cleanse might help a little bit, but it’s not
going to be your overall answer. You need to
drain your toxins out faster than they’re coming in
and allow the body to do the detoxification.
When it gets exposed to metals, when it gets
exposed to chemicals, when it gets exposed
to immune challenges like bacteria, virus, and
fungus, and mold, the body, should be able to
see that and eliminate it without a big issue. Dose
makes the poison. Yeah. If I live in a moldy house,
I’m going to have a buildup of mycotoxin in my
body because the exposure is so much, and the
drainage isn’t there.
But should I need to teach my body how to
detoxify? No. The four detoxification pathways
that your liver, the three, I don’t where I just came
up with a fourth one.
Maybe there’s a fourth one we don’t know about
yet. There’s three detoxification pathways in your
liver. The body’s got that. I don’t need to do that. I
just need to unplug the toxins, drain out, and then
allow the body to do the detox
Shivan: Guys and girls, if you do this, you’re
going to feel better. I rarely make such a bold
statement. It’s just that I know this from my own
personal experience, and I’ve talked to so many
people through my years as a yoga teacher and
my certification as a melt method practitioner—
sorry, I’m not practicing—but man, I learned a lot.
So please try these techniques. This is why we did
the summit. It is so that you can feel better and
you can eliminate another risk. I’m not trying to
scare you. That’s the reality here.
Eliminate another risk factor in your health and
wellness, simultaneously making you feel better.
Like if I don’t smoke, I’ve eliminated a risk factor if
I was smoking, but you are innately going to feel
better.
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But this is about instantaneously feeling better,

helping your body do what it needs to do, what
it wants to do, what it was born to do, and to
support you. More to come from you incredible
Lymph Queen, Kelly Kennedy of The True
Wellness Center in Philadelphia. We can’t wait to
learn from you more. Thank you so much.

Kelly: Thank you so much. And thank you all that

are participating for taking engagement in your
own health. That’s the best thing you can do. Have
a great 2021. Make this the year that you take
over control of your body. And this is the way to
do it through your lymph system. You got this.

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Masterclass: Liver
Lymphatics
Jay Davidson, DC, PScD
Dr. Davidson: Hi. This is Dr. Jay Davidson from
DrJaydavidson.com. And I’m super excited to talk
about liver lymphatics with you.
Now, lymphatic gets talked about a lot, but liver,
together with lymphatic, I feel like is a little less
popular, which is why I want to dive into the latest
research and some simple take-home things that
you can do to start improving your lymphatics and
specifically in the liver.
So this all came from the start of my wife. My wife
had rather pretty significant health challenges
when she was a younger child. When she was
seven years old, she was in a coma for about six
weeks from chronic Lyme disease.
And then her health journey basically, just her
health struggles, I should say, started from that
point. I met her and then we got married. We had
a child, or she had a child, our child in 2012.
And that’s our daughter in the picture, Lila Ray.
My wife is Heather there, and when my daughter
was born, basically, the bottom fell out. My wife
became reactive to everything.
She had to go 17 days with only drinking water
and traditional bone broth. Anything else she’d
put in her mouth, carrots, spinach, any of that
would have allergic reactions and couldn’t
breathe.
Her body was basically shutting down. After two
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months, her body stopped producing breast milk,
and we had to start making homemade goat
Weston A. Price milk for my daughter, and that
just became like a household thing. And in that
whole process, my wife became such a major
focus because any product that we gave her
seemed to cause the opposite reaction, and she
was so sensitive.
And what I really figured out was that the
liver was a major factor of what created these
sensitivities and why she couldn’t get up over that
hump. And the liver being backed up created all
this dysfunction in the lymphatic system. Now
what’s interesting is even two years before my
daughter was born, my wife had to stop flying,
and we would travel to seminars.
She’s also a doctor of chiropractic. We went to
school together, so we’re both DCs. And she
stopped traveling because the anxiety she felt just
of the thought of flying just freaked her out. And
so because of that, she stopped flying. That wasn’t
a big enough signal for us to figure out, okay,
what’s going on here?
My daughter was born. Obviously, the signal
became so strong, and she nearly died for the
second time in her life, what we believe was
chronic Lyme disease and so many underlying
toxicity type problems, which fundamentally
came from a dysfunctional liver lymphatic system,
which is why I am so passionate about bringing
this to you all. So you can check out the links just
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in the bottom. I just put all the journal links to the
slides if you want to check any of them out and go
ahead and read those, but I’d love to give you a
summary to save a ton of time and effort for you.
Hippocrates, father of modern medicine,
people often say, since its original description
by Hippocrates, the lymphatic system has been
neglected by both scientific and medical systems
because of its vagueness in structure and
function.
Even after its rediscovery 400 years ago, the
lymphatic system was considered a secondary
vascular system that supports the blood vascular
system.
However, a series of landmark discoveries in
lymphatic research has significantly advanced
our understanding of not only the organogenesis
function and atomic structure of the system
but also the cellular and molecular biology of
lymphatic endothelial cells, LECs. And when you
see lymphatic endothelial cells, that basically just
means the cells of the lymphatic system.
So basically, we’re figuring out, wow, lymphatics,
there’s a lot to it. And you can see this from 2012
A Major Circulatory System. So considering the
vital functions that the lymphatic system engages
in, how little knowledge we have regarding the
system, lymphatic research is truly a goldmine
that invites ambitious young scientists and
clinicians.
The human body has two major circulatory
systems: the blood and lymphatics system. Lymph
means clear water in Latin. So we have two major
circulatory systems, blood, and the lymphatic
system. Blood is usually the one that gets the
attention though in the circulatory system.
And of course, this is from 2020. They said the
lymphatic system is arguably the most neglected
bodily system. I mean, let that sit in, which, of
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course, we’re giving it attention. So much of I’m
struggling, Dr. Jay. I feel like I’m reacting. I feel like
I can’t take any formulas that are killing pathogens
like parasites or Lyme, co-infections. These
different pathogens, micro-organisms, are going
nuts.
I feel like I react immediately. I feel like I can’t
detoxify. As soon as I start detoxing, I crash. I
mean, what am I supposed to do? And it comes
back to understanding the drainage funnel. The
drainage funnel is so critical, and this is really
what my wife in her mess if you will became the
message to help others like yourself to get this.
So there’s difference between drainage and detox.
Detox is I’m grabbing a chemical. I’m pulling out
of the body. Drainage is the normal pathway that
need to move fluids and things throughout the
body.
If the drainage pathways are clogged, such as
the colon, the liver bile ducts, kidneys, the lungs,
coughing is an excretory pathway drainage
pathway, the skin and sweating, different organs
and tissues, if the drainage pathways are clogged,
and you go in and try to detox somebody, the
toxins got nowhere to go.
Inflammation reaction happens. If your drainage
pathways are clogged, and you go in and try to
kill some micro-organisms or pathogens, or you
have a chronic infection going on, the debris has
nowhere to go.
Inflammation arises, reactions happen. And you’re
like, oh, I can’t do this. Opening up the drainage
system in the body, there’s a priority order. This is
what the drainage funnel is.
Now, the very base of the funnel is the most
important piece. If that is clogged, everything
above the funnel is going to be clogged. That is
the colon. If you are not pooping minimum two
times a day, we want to increase that because
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everything else is going to get backed up.
Generally, people struggling with health issues
two to three times a day is great.
You don’t want watery stools, but once a day, I
mean, unless you’re super healthy, I just don’t
think that’s enough, especially as you’re pursuing
protocols to restore health.
Liver bile duct system is absolutely critical, which
will be a big focus today on the liver. And then
right above that is the lymphatic system. Right
above that is organs and tissues such as brain and
then above that is at the cellular level.
So giving an example. Let’s say you want to drain.
I want to drain my cells, Dr. Jay, at the cellular
level. Okay. Well, in order for your cells to drain,
look right below that. That means the organs and
tissues have to be draining. Okay. So in order for
the organs and tissues to drain, that means the
lymphatic system has to be draining.
In order for the lymph to drain, the liver and bile
duct system has to be draining. In order for the
liver and bile duct system to drain, the colon has
to. So there’s a hierarchy.
So we want to start opening the bottom of the
funnel up first before we move forward. Now, if
there’s a backup and you’ll see that trap door—I’ll
talk about this a little bit later—then we kick toxins
out into the skin.
You start getting rashes, itchiness. You start
getting kidney damage, lung damage, damage to
the endothelial tissues. So opening the drainage
funnel up is absolutely critical. And if you’re
wondering, hey, Dr. Jay, what’s that power button
on there? What does that mean? That is the
mitochondria.
So in order for there to be peristalsis or bowel
movement, the mitochondria inside of the large
intestinal cells needs to be functioning. In order
for the liver to function, energy needs to be
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turned on. That’s the mitochondria inside of the
cells. So we want to turn mitochondrial function
on. That’ll flip the whole drainage funnel activation
going, and then we can actually support individual
areas.
First of all, moving the bowels, the colon, then
supporting the liver bile duct system. Then that’ll
give us access to the lymphatics. And this should
make more sense here just as I go.
So lymphatics system basically covers all major
organs, and you can say, well, I don’t think
there’s a brain or what about this and that?
We’re continuing to discover more and more that
basically the lymphatics are everywhere in the
body.
Well, we didn’t think the brain had lymphatics.
Now we know in the last decade, less than a
decade, we know that there’s this thing called the
glymphatic system in the brain—drainage to the
lymph.
We know that there’s actually a meningeal
lymphatic system in the brain as well. There’s two
different pieces to the brain in the lymphatics. So
as more research is done with lymphatics, we’re
figuring out, man, every area of the body has
lymph. And it makes sense.
So lymphatic anatomy most talked about is the
soft tissue, but understand there’s three distinct
parts. There’s the soft tissue lymphatics. There’s
the intestinal lymphatic system.
And there’s the liver lymphatic system. I’m going
to focus heavily on the liver lymphatics right now.
If you’re interested in the intestinal lymphatic
system, definitely watch Dr. Todd Watts’s
presentation because that’s what he’s focusing on
is that intestinal lymphatic system.
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communicate with each other and eventually join
at the level of the cisterna chyli and continue to
one main structure, the thoracic duct. And these
structures, so these three systems not only drain
different parts of the body, but they perform
other functions as well.
They have some similar functions, and they
perform some other ones. When we’re looking
at the liver lymphatic system, one of the unique
things that it does is it helps the liver produce
proteins into the actual systemic circulation, into
the systemic circulation system of the blood.
Now, what’s really cool looking at the liver, it is the
largest lymph producer, and you’re like, what do
you mean? Liver is the largest lymph producer.
So where we’ve been taught that, oh, through
a blood circulation, we lose blood. And then it
gets picked up by the lymph. That’s the most. No,
actually the most lymph is produced by the liver.
Somewhere between 25% to 50% of the lymph
passing through the thoracic duct is actually
produced by the liver itself. And what we now
know about the lymphatic vessels is there is also
an active system.
Once viewed as just unidirectional, only when you
contract your muscles does the lymph actually
move, and the only way it doesn’t go backward
is because you have valves, and that prevents
backflow. We now know that actually, the
lymphatic vessels are now active.
They play specific roles in tissue and in
major physiological and pathophysiological
processes. And so the lymphatic vessels, you
can see at the last bullet point, show remarkable
plasticity and heterogeneity, reflecting their
functional specialization to control the tissue
microenvironment. They’re basically not just
there at the whim of contraction. They’re there
doing many different roles, and this is so cool of a
finding.
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So diving into the lymphatic system in the liver,
there’s two different parts. There’s what’s called
the deep lymphatics, and there’s the superficial.
And it’s just as you think about. If you look at the
liver organ itself, what’s on more of the surface
layer is more superficial lymphatics, and then
what’s actually inside the organ is referred to as
the deep lymphatic level.
Now, what I thought was interesting from this
study in 2016 is they’ve actually seen that there is
pathological retrograde flow in the liver lymphatic
vessels.
What does that mean? They basically did a test.
Lymph is only supposed to move one direction.
What they found is when there’s disease in the
liver, the lymph can actually be flowing the wrong
direction. It can be backed up and moving the
wrong way, which is not a good sign.
Now, what they also have found in literature is
that when there is an increase in fluid amount,
quantity, this is a bad thing. So when you actually
look at the lymphatic system compared to the
circulatory system, you have about two times
as much fluid in the lymph than the circulatory
system.
When you start getting even more fluid buildup in
the lymph, so you start becoming a ratio of three
to one lymph to blood in the blood circulation
system, then it becomes even more problematic.
So just understand this takeaway: more fluid in
the lymphatic system is actually a bad thing.
And so this literature in 2018 said the production
of lymph increases up to 30-fold in cirrhotic
patients, so patients with cirrhosis in their liver,
that increases the formation of lymph vessels and
lymphangiogenesis, basically the creation of new
lymph material, if you will, or new lymph vessels
in response to the increase of fluid. But the
increase of fluid is not good.

And so the second bullet point is significant
increase in the number of hepatic lymphatic
vessels, or lymphangiogenesis has been reported
in various liver diseases included but not limited
to cirrhosis that I mentioned, viral hepatitis, and
hepatocellular carcinoma, that’s basically cancer
of the liver.
Emerging roles of lymph in disease, there’s been
several studies actually that reported lymph fluid
released from liver normally rich in protein has
low protein content in rats and humans with
cirrhosis.
So remember excess lymph fluid, not good. 30-
fold increase with somebody with cirrhosis with
lymph in the liver. This takeaway here is basically
the quality of fluid decreases. There’s low protein
content.
So low quality and mass volume is not good
to help the body drain. And these findings
suggest that despite the increase in frequency
of lymphatics during disease, there may be
a decrease in lymphatic permeability, which
prevents the proper removal of inflammatory
mediators in cells from the liver.
So it almost becomes a self-destructive cycle that
the more fluid, the worst quality, and the less
likely you are to drain the things that are causing
inflammation, and you get all puffy if you will.
So looking at the liver lymph, such lymphatic
dilations are often observed in severe
inflammation, portal hypertension, biliary
diseases, diseases of the bowel ducts. However,
results of MR lymphography of liver are most
preliminary and should be confirmed by further
specific studies.
What’s that saying? This is just what we’re
seeing. This is in 2019 that this research came
out. It basically means this really hasn’t been
investigated a lot. The whole liver lymphatics,
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the whole intestinal lymphatics, is such a new
emerging area. We need to do more research
imaging to better understand it.
So what I’m going through today is the best
of what we understand in the literature. And
hopefully, I’m doing a great job of translating it
and making it easy to understand. But basically, in
2019, they said, you know what? Lymphoedema is
a result in chronic inflammation.
So the more inflammation you have, the more
lymph, the poor the quality of that liquid, the
less likely to clear out an inflammation, and it
becomes this perpetual cycle, but ultimately,
chronic inflammation is a big trigger of all this. So
how do you heal the liver?
Well, the liver has what’s called phases of detox.
It’s got phase one, phase two, and then there’s
this thing called phase three. Now here’s the key
takeaway to remember.
Generally, phase three is the weak link in the
system. So let’s look at these phases. So you’re
exposed to chemicals. The liver is the lifeline. It is
the detox lifeline of the body. It works amazing.
However, it can get overwhelmed, but the weak
link isn’t going from phase one detox into phase
two. So it takes a fat-soluble toxin, basically makes
it a little bit more toxic, and turns it into water-
soluble in phase two, and then phase two is when
it essentially continues to nullify the toxin.
And now it’s got to dump it. Now it’s got to clear
out the toxins. So phase one and two is detox of
the liver. After it processes these chemicals, that’s
like, well, what are we going to do with all this like
waste? Phase three detox is actually drainage.
This is how the liver gets rid of it, and the primary
place is in the bile. So the liver makes bile, and it
also processes toxins. It does all kinds of other
things. But the key thing is that these byproducts
of toxins need to get pushed into the bile

preferentially. If they don’t, there can be all other
issues, which we’ll go through.
Now, the thing to understand about the bile duct
systems, it starts like a tree at the top, very small.
And then those little branches get into bigger
branches that get into bigger branches that then
get into the big trunk.
And then you get to the common hepatic duct.
So the liver makes bile, and it’s dumping toxins
into the bile. The bile is pushed out through the
bile ducts. And if you still have a gallbladder sack,
that’s a storage sack that concentrates the bile.
And then when you eat, what happens is the
gallbladder squeezes. And if you don’t have a
gallbladder, it’s just the bile ducts that release
bile. Usually, it can’t do quite a good job, but if
you have a gallbladder, the gallbladder squeezes,
the bile duct squeeze, and bile gets injected into
the upper part of the small intestine. So you have
your stomach. And then right after that is your
small intestine. And that’s where the bile gets
injected.
And it’s injected into the GI system for two
reasons. The first neutralize the stomach pH, the
stomach acid, because it’s very acidic, and so bile
helps to neutralize that so you don’t burn holes
in your small intestine from the stomach acid
coming through.
The other thing that it does is it helps to emulsify
fat. So what I find clinically is that people that are
having health issues have massive issues with
drainage of the liver of the bile flow.
When the bile is not moving, then when the
stomach releases stomach acid, there’s not
enough bile to neutralize it. And the body’s like,
whoa, too much acid. Lower the acid.
And so we start getting lower stomach acid. We
can’t digest the food as well. We started getting
acid reflux. And if we are on the functional
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medicine side and doing more of the proper
things, we’re taking apple cider vinegar, Betaine
HCl to increase the stomach acid.
However, there’s one more step to actually go
to is what is the source of a low stomach acid
causing GERD or acid reflux? It’s actually a lack
of bile flow. This lack of bile flow directly impacts
the lymphatic system as well with the liver, the
quantity, and the quality of it.
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So the key takeaway is the bile is released to
assist in digestion of fats, to emulsify, and also
to neutralize the acidity. If there’s not enough
bile released into the small intestine, the body
decreases the stomach acid. So if we do the
common medical procedure, we take proton-
pump inhibitors, which is like going completely
in the wrong direction. So going more of the
functional medicine direction is a lot better.
However, we don’t want to just take things to
increase the stomach acid.
We want to ask the question, well, why is the body
lowering the stomach acid? Because there’s not
enough bile flow. So we actually want to increase
the bile flow. Movement is life. We hear this
with exercise. We hear this even with our brains.
Challenge our brain.
If you retire, don’t stop thinking. Challenge
yourself. It’s like almost a muscle, if you will.
Well, it’s the same thing with drainage pathways.
Movement is life. Stagnation breeds disease, and
it breeds inflammation. So we want to create
movement.
And when you have low stomach acid, that causes
poor digestion, which is a common problem today
is massive digestive issues that oftentimes can be
triggered just with low bile flow.
And then, it also becomes a gateway for micro-
organisms. When you don’t have enough stomach

acid, and you’re exposed to some micro-organism
or pathogen, that stomach acid should take care
of that.
You don’t have enough stomach acid. It becomes
a gateway, which is why the proton-pump
inhibitors and kind of that classic medical
direction of acid reflux treatment is such
dangerous. It’s really a gateway of having more
issues.
So going back to the drainage funnel, when that
liver bile duct system is backed up, what happens
is this emergency hatch opens up, which is what’s
highlighted in the red box there, and these toxins
and byproducts, instead of them being sent into
the bile and into the GI tract and then hopefully
pooping a lot of those out, which a lot of them get
re-circulated because the bile gets recycled. But
we’ll discuss that in a little bit here.
What happens instead of the toxins in phase
three getting dumped into the bile, it gets put into
the systemic blood circulation—a horrible place to
be. And what they’ve shown in literature, and you
can see this in the slide here, is that accumulation
of bile acids in the systemic circulation leads to
pruritus, which is itchy skin, rashes and may even
contribute to endothelial injury in the lungs and
kidneys.
It is thought that bile acid reach the lungs from
the systemic circulation. And under cholestatic
conditions-- so cholestatic means decreased bile
flow. That’s a bad thing. We want movement.
Movement is life. Under cholestatic conditions
or decreased bile flow, the formation of sulfate
derivatives is increased, and renal elimination is
the main route for bile acid detoxification.
So go back to—there’s a few different references
there on the last slide—but go back to the
drainage funnel. What does that mean? That
means the liver bile duct system is backed up,
and maybe it’s because the colon’s backed up that
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then backs up the bile. That’s the possibility. You
always got to focus on the bottom of the funnel
and start opening up from there.
But what I see commonly is that the liver bile duct
system is backed up. When that’s backed up, what
happens is it shoves the toxins instead of the bile.
It puts them in the blood.
And then that causes skin issues, kidney
problems, lung issues, or any combination of that.
And there’s this thing that they’ve discovered in
the last few years in research called the blood-bile
barrier. So you can see the picture on the right.
Basically, in the middle, that’s a healthy system.
That’s not mixing the blood with the bile. As soon
as there’s a stressor and basically as soon as
there’s leaky gut, you immediately have leaky liver,
which is the blood-bile barrier. As soon as there’s
leaky gut, you’ve got leaky brain. So essentially,
all these blood barriers in the body and like the
blood-brain barrier, BBB, this one you can see
blood-bile barrier is BBLB.
So that’s new in the literature here, but essentially
when there’s a stressor, this opens up, or when
the bile is backed up, these tight junctions open
up, and they start mixing these toxins with the
blood system. This is a leaky blood-bile barrier.
And so it causes systemic circulation issues,
not only with the lymph but also with the blood
system. And it causes all kinds of problems.
So looking at the liver, in order for the liver to
produce high-quality lymph, the liver has to be
draining.
It has to be draining phase three very well. If it’s
not, all kinds of problems start happening with the
actual liver itself. And then you have dysfunction
of lymph.
When you have dysfunction of lymph, then you
start throwing this whole ratio off of too much
lymph to the blood. And then you also start

dumping toxins in the blood, and you have all
kinds of chaos happening directly from that liver,
that lifeline of the body.
So some of the things that actually cause the
liver to back up, estrogen. Too high of estrogen
can cause what’s called cholestasis. That means
decreased bile flow.
So if you’re estrogen dominant, that’ll actually
clog the liver up or be more likely to slow the bile
flow down. Other things are toxins, specifically
glyphosate. Glyphosate, and there’s many articles,
many journals on this. This is just one of them.
Glyphosate impairs bile acid synthesis.
That means glyphosate stops the production of
you making bile and secretion, which is basically
the movement. So glyphosate, which is the active
ingredient in Roundup and it’s found pretty
much everywhere on earth because it’s just
contaminated the world, it shuts the flow and
the making of bile down in the body. As soon
as it does that, again, stagnation. Now you can’t
detox besides this whole chemical issue inside of
glyphosate.
So glyphosate is a big one. Other things that can
actually clog up that liver bile duct system, other
toxins, micro-organisms, specifically parasites,
and there’s different types that have been linked
with liver issues and bile duct flow problems, liver
flukes.
And that one, if you’re parasite cleansing or if
you have bad liver flukes and you’re starting to
open up drainage, a lot of times you will get that
liver pain, like the sharp pain. Those are genuine
liver flukes. They are kind of like almond-shaped
things.
So it can be a little painful in getting out, but
they love to bury in that liver and bile duct area.
Giardia, Strongyloides, this is a big one. Besides
it absolutely loving the bile duct and liver area, it
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can be in the muscles too.
So when somebody works out, and they feel very
sore afterward, it can actually be just the worms
inside the muscle that produce a chemical that
then after you work out and strain the muscles,
then you’re reacting to that chemical.
So Strongyloides can kind of be all over the
body, and it’s got a full life cycle in the body.
Roundworms, they’ve shown in literature, can
actually climb from your small intestine up into
the bile duct area and clog that out.
So all these things, anytime we’re clogging the
bile duct system, hormonal dysfunction, toxins,
different micro-organisms like parasites are going
to systemically affect the entire body because of
how important that liver is.
Now, this is how crazy it is. Just in the US alone,
three-quarters of a million people a year on
average get their gallbladders removed. And
up to 15% of the population has asymptomatic
gallstones meaning they don’t have any
symptoms.
And then, all of a sudden, they had to get their
gallbladder out. They estimate, and this is
literature from 2020, here that 20 to 25 million
Americans have gallstones.
And like I said, more than 750,000 people get their
gallbladders out. And what is that a sign of? That’s
just a sign that there’s an underlying issue in the
liver.
Getting a gallbladder out doesn’t fix anything
because the question asked is, what is the
problem in the first place? Why did the gallbladder
get all backed up? Well, because it got stones.
Well, why are there stones? Because of decreased
flow.
What else? What’s in there? Is it a pathogen? Is
it a toxin? Is it hormonal dysfunction? Is there

other things potentially that are causing that? We
need to get to the source. So instead of getting
a gallbladder ripped out, the goal is open that
flow up and do it now. Don’t wait until there’s
symptoms because some people don’t even get
symptoms.
Now, you might be saying, okay, Dr. Jay, I got it.
Liver’s important. What do I do? Start opening up
the bile flow because opening the bile flow up can
directly impact the lymphatic system.
It can directly impact the ability to detox. It can
impact the GI system. I mean, the liver is so
critical. My top product that I would recommend
right now is TUDCA. TUDCA is an acronym. So you
can see it’s capitalized T-U-D-C-A. TUDCA stands
for Tauroursodeoxycholic acid.
A long name. That’s why we love to abbreviate
it TUDCA. Your body naturally makes TUDCA.
It’s a secondary bile acid metabolite that’s very
anti-inflammatory and protects the smooth
endoplasmic reticulum. All you got to know is it
decreases inflammation.
And almost all of our cells in our body have
what’s called the smoothie ER or the smooth
endoplasmic reticulum inside of our cells, which
means that this water-soluble bile acid that our
body makes generally our microbiome converts
it, which a lot of people have microbiome issues.
They are not making enough, which is why I
recommend supplementing to get this going.
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But it basically protects all the cells, and there’s
pages and pages of research that myself and my
team have found specifically on TUDCA. These
are two resources. First one there says TUDCA
stimulates bile flow increase by 250%. More
movement, more life, a lot better. It also improves
the quality.
So you’re not just making more bile, you’re
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making better quality, and you’re actually
improving the flow. The second reference there,
it helps the lymph system. So TUDCA improves
lymphatics and improves the liver.
In literature, it improves the brain. So if you’re
taking TUDCA and have a stroke or a heart attack,
God forbid, it will actually protect you from
damage, as much damage as if you’re not taking
it.
It also is helping in recovery. It’s great against
Alzheimer’s and Huntington’s disease and
Parkinson’s and all kinds of crazy stuff. There’s
literature on the C-word, on diabetes, on heart
disease, all kinds of stuff that TUDCA has been
shown to help with.
And great thing is our body naturally makes
it. The problem is usually when there’s health
issues, there’s liver dysfunction. And when there’s
liver dysfunction, then you’re not making the
appropriate amount of TUDCA. That’s why taking
it can really make a big difference. And just a great
thing here as I’m wrapping up. Something that
you can do immediately right now, it doesn’t cost
you anything is diaphragmatic breathing.
And you might’ve heard. Yeah. I’ve heard of this.
Like, yeah, I understand. I need to belly breathe.
Here’s why it’s important, though. Look at this
image. When you inhale through your nose, your
belly’s sticking out or comes out.
As the belly comes out, what happens is actually
the diaphragm drops down. When the diaphragm
drops down, that actually puts physical pressure
on the upper GI, specifically liver and bile duct
system.
That physical pressure is great to help with
movement. Most people that I’ve seen over the
years with chronic illness have just this upper
chest breathing, and it’s shallow instead of the
slow deep belly breaths.

Now, it can take a while to reprogram, but I
recommend is first thing in the morning, middle
of the day, and the evening time, maybe before
bed as well, get at least two, three, maybe four
times in where you just take a few minutes to do
some deep, slow belly breath breathing, which is
diaphragmatic breathing.
That’s going to drop that diaphragm down, put
some physical pressure on that upper GI area,
which the body needs. Motion is life. And that can
be a big key.
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So hope you got some value out of seeing some of
the latest research on the liver lymphatic system,
talking about TUDCA and the 4-4-4 protocol, along
with just some simple belly breathing that can be
super effective.
I’m Dr. Jay Davidson. If you want to reach out
or any more resources, just check me out at
DrJaydavidson.com. Maximum blessings.
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Masterclass: Unraveling
the Lymphatic System
Christine Schaffner, ND

Dr. Schaffner: Hi everyone. I’m Doctor Christine
Schaffner, and I want to thank Shivan for
inviting me to be part of her Lymphatic System
Masterclass. We’re both really passionate about
this topic, and I just love sharing information
that we know. And I often say that the lymphatic
system is one of the most overlooked systems
in the body, and one of the most rewarding and
gratifying to treat. So we’ll take a tour through the
lymphatic system here today.
So I’m just going to go through my slides here.
So just an overview of the lymphatic system. The
lymphatic system composes of this body-wide
network of organs and vessels and nodes. And so
it’s this whole body-wide network that also has
these, what we call primary organs and secondary
organs. So our primary organs for lymphatic
system include the bone marrow and thymus.
And because the lymphatic system has such a
huge role in our immune system and our immune
surveillance aspect of our immune system, that
these are the organs where we actually create and
educate our immune cells to fight infections.
And so that’s the role of the bone marrow and
the thymus. And then we have these second
organs that can include lymph nodes, tonsils,
Peyer’s patches, which are the lymphatic system
in the digestive tract. The appendix is part of the
lymphatic system. The spleen plays a major role
in the lymphatic system. And then we have gut
associated lymphatic tissue and also mucosal
associated lymphatic tissue. So the lymphatic
system covers a lot of areas. And this is just
a highlight overview with a picture showing
this body-wide network. So I want to share an
overview of the lymphatic system. Lymph actually
means clear water in Latin and the lymphatic
system, I feel has these two major roles in
the body. It is a waste clearance system and
immune surveillance system. And that’s why it’s
so important when we’re treating patients with
chronic illness, because these are really the two
buckets that we’re really always looking at.
How do we create more immune resilience and
how do we remove toxicants from your body?
And so, how the lymphatic system works in our
body is that, blood flows through arteries and in
the tissues blood diffuses. And then, what we call
capillaries, as the blood returns to the veins, a lot
of lymph actually exits the capillaries. It brings
oxygen and nutrients to our tissues, but it also
gets circulated through the lymphatic network
and recirculated and return to the heart. And so
it’s this again, complex dynamic system that also
is really tied to our circulatory system. Unlike
our circulatory system, which has a pump, the
lymphatic system actually relies on our movement
to move this fluid in our body. Again, I shared
most of the things that are highlighted here. One
of the key roles of the lymphatic system in the
digestive tract is that large fats and lipids, which
are the building blocks for our cell membranes
or hormones, get absorbed in the digestive tract
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where our digestive tract has a huge role in the
lymph.
So when we talk about the lymphatic system,
we have to also talk about what we call the
extracellular matrix. So the extracellular matrix
and the lymphatic system are intimately
interconnected. And so, in anatomy and
physiology, we’re always looking at how to
differentiate different aspects and boundaries in
the body. But I do feel like this extracellular matrix
and lymphatic system they’re very interconnected
and very fluid, even though we want to draw lines
around them. I think they work more without the
fine barrier that we see in our anatomy drawings.
So Doctor Alfred Pischinger, he was a German
physician and he wrote this book called The
Extracellular Matrix and Ground Regulation. We’re
really passionate about biological medicine or
what’s called bioregulatory medicine at Sophia,
and this is a concept that is fundamental to
biological medicine, looking at the extracellular
matrix and how that ties into our health.
So Pischinger was really a pioneer in saying almost
every disease starts in the extracellular matrix.
And the concept of a cell is strictly speaking,
only a morphological abstraction. Seeing from
a biological point of view, a cell cannot be
considered by itself without its environment into
account. So again, when we learn about a cell
in medical school, we think about it with these
boundaries, and not understanding quite how
the relationship of the environment around the
cell really also dictates its optimal functioning
physiology. So to have healthy cells, we need a
healthy extracellular matrix. And that is a lot of
why we talk about the lymphatic system in helping
to have a great extracellular matrix and getting
rid of toxicants and pathogens that could be
disrupting the cell to cell communication.
So we’ll talk a little bit about it here. So this is a
diagram of the extracellular matrix. I mentioned
how the capillaries bring blood and nutrients to
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these tissue spaces. And so lymph actually drains
out of the capillary space and it flows through the
extracellular matrix into the lymphatic vessels.
You can see that the extracellular matrix is this
dynamic space in the body that has collagen
the most abundant protein in the body. It also
has hyaluronic acid and proteoglycans and also
a lot of our immune cells like macrophages.
Mass cells hang out in the extracellular matrix.
Then this fluid gets drained into the lymphatic
system where it then helps our immune system
understand what we’re encountering and what to
numb a response to. And then that lymph finds its
way eventually to the heart where it’s recirculated.
So I wrote here that the interstitial space can
be divided into two compartments, this fluid
which we also call our internal ocean because
of the electrolyte balance in this fluid. And then
these structural molecules of the interstitial
or extracellular matrix surrounds every cell.
Again, the extracellular space is this fluid and
these structural molecules. And it’s a very
dynamic space because it’s where our immune
system, our endocrine, our nervous system and
lymphatic system all interface and it connects and
communicates and regulates all the systems of
the body. So I really continue to try to understand
this part of the body and why my patients are
sick and how we can really understand what
is dysregulated in this space. And how we can
optimize the lymphatic system to help optimize
the extracellular space.
All of hormones, nutrients and waste products
go to and from the cells, must pass the interstitial
or extracellular matrix. So that’s a diagram
there. And then again, why am I talking about
the extracellular matrix when we’re talking
about lymphatics? Again, some of the points
that I’m making, that the lymphatics and lymph
organs are connected to the extracellular matrix
and are really responsible for the removal of
waste. And we talked about this already, but
I want to reiterate that everything that comes

out of the blood takes a somewhat complicated
route through the connective tissues, to the
parenchymal cells, which are the cells in the
extracellular matrix, and then into the lymphatics.
The extracellular matrix regulates the cellular
milieu, so the environment around the cell, and
since the lymphatics are highly intermeshed with
the extracellular matrix, we can change the train
by lymph therapy. That’s Doctor Rob Cass, who’s
the founder of Physica Energetics, who’s a mentor
of ours.
So we can change the cell by improving the
extracellular matrix by supporting the lymphatic
system. Again, this is all interconnected. I love
bringing this idea also into these conversations
because again, how I said that we’re this
interconnected body-wide network. And so again,
we think of things when we study them, we clear
boundaries and clear division, but that’s not
really how our bodies work. And so Doctor James
Oschman wrote this book called Energy Medicine
and he coined the term, the living matrix. And so
his idea is that, because of the structural aspects
of our extra cellular matrix and how that basically
is connected along the cell membrane and goes
into the nucleus, he calls it the living matrix. So
the extracellular matrix or fascia or lymphatics are
intimately communicating with the DNA of our
cells and the nucleus.
So he writes, “The living matrix is defined as the
continuous molecular fabric of the organism
consisting of fascia, the other connective tissues,
extracellular matrices, is integrins, cytoskeletons,
nucleus matrices and DNA.” The living matrix
generates and transmits the vibrations because
of the way that these structural molecules are
interconnected. There’s energy transfer through
vibrations, mechanical waves, electrical signals,
magnetic and electromagnetic fields, heat
and light. So this is the realm of where energy
medicine works. And this is how we can have
a conversation around biophysics and energy
medicine because of understanding the living
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matrix and how it works. So with talking again
about the lymphatics I also like to bring in this
idea of the fascia.
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So the fascia, when we learn about it in school,
it’s this band of sheet of connective tissue. It’s
the thing that’s going to attach and stabilize
and enclose and separate muscles and other
internal organs. There’s superficial fascia, there’s
deep fascia. When we learn about it in school,
we think about it as a Saran wrap around the
muscles. But again we also need to expand our
idea around the fascia with the new knowledge
of the fascia. The fascia actually is, in some
aspects, not only a structural part of the body,
but it’s also a communication tool in the body.
So it can transfer water in the body and also it’s
a light conducting material where it can conduct
a light and also electrical information. It’s a
conductor of electrons. So it’s again, more than
just structural. This fascia has a wider definition.
All the collagenous-based-soft tissues in the body,
including the cells that create and maintain the
network of the extracellular matrix.
So that’s Thomas Myers in Anatomy Trains. He’s
one of the wonderful myofascial therapist who
really show how we can change pain in the body
by looking at the fascia, breaking up adhesions
and restoring drainage and water in those tissues
which can lead to pain relief and again, better
physiology. So why I’m talking about this in a
lymphatic class is when we think about fascia,
then we think about the interstitium.
So the interstitium is actually a newly discovered
organ and this is actually pre-lymph. So I think
of fascia, I think of interstitium. I think of the
extracellular matrix. I think about lymphatic
vessels, kind of this drainage system in the body,
so this network of fluid-filled spaces. It’s filled
with lymph, it’s considered pre-lymph. So fluid
from the fascia and interstitium drains into the
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lymphatic system and is the source of lymph. It
resides underneath the top level of the skin. That’s
why we can treat our body systemically through
medicine and supplements and nutritionals and
topicals like our [inaudible].
We can do something, apply it on one of these
remedies topically and it’s absorbed through
the skin. Then it goes under the dermis into the
interstitium, into the fascia, into the matrix, into
the lymph, it gets dispersed body-wide. So again,
it’s not only under the top layer of the skin, but
it’s also under the surrounding muscles, blood
vessels, fascia, the gut and another organ, so it’s
this body-wide network. And they used to think
that it was just this wall of collagen, but because
of technology advancement. And not only the
technology advancement, but looking at living
tissue rather than just dead cadaver tissue. We
found that this tissue contains interconnected
fluid-filled spaces and it’s just a shock absorber
in the body to protect other components. I just
took us in a twirl through a really high overview of
the lymph, the extracellular matrix, the fascia, the
interstitium.
Then I want to touch on the fourth phase of water
because I believe that this phase of the water is
really important to the health of our cells, but
also if we have more structured water in our
extracellular matrix and our lymphatic system, it
helps to propel them and also exclude toxins from
the lymph. So Doctor Pollack is a friend of ours.
He’s a professor at the University of Washington,
and he really pioneered this idea of looking at
the fourth phase of water and how to apply it to
biological systems. So this is highly structured
water in the body. It’s not H2O, but H3O2, so it has
a negative charge, and it actually holds energy.
So it acts like a battery. It’s not as liquid, but it’s
more gel-like and viscous. It’s going to be more
crystal-like in its appearance and wherever there’s
exclusions zone water, it excludes toxicants from
that water in the body.
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flow. We get more exclusion zone water, or it’s
also called fourth phase of water, it’s structured
water, crystalline water. We create more of that
when we’re in the sun and absorb UV light, as well
as infrared light. There’s all sorts of other things
that can help us build the fourth phase of water
in our bodies. But I think this is an important
concept that I’m continuing to try to understand
myself and apply clinically. I told Doctor Pollack
I feel like we can boil this down as health, is how
much exclusion zone water we have in the body.
And Doctor Thomas Cowan has taken some of
Doctor Pollack’s work a step further and he wrote,
I think it’s called, Cancer and the New Biology of
Water. And his whole book is talking about how
we have this intracellular gel or the fourth phase
of water. That’s really how we have health and
have healthy cell voltage and how we have healthy
cell functioning. And then it’s also the fluid that we
want to optimize in the extracellular matrix and in
the lymph system as well. So structured water and
the lymphatics.
So I really love this biophysicist she’s passed,
but her name was Mae-Wan Ho. And she looked
at all sorts of things. She looked at a structured
water or she called it crystalline water in the
body. And she found that the liquid crystalline
water aligned with collagen fibers in the fascia.
She thought that this was really the explanation
of acupuncture meridians. So the fascia, which
is made up of collagen, which is also, again, tied
into the lymphatic system, she found that it’s
surrounded by this structured or fourth phase
of water, and that’s really how information is
exchanged in the body. Again, this is something
that continues to blow my mind, and I try to
understand more and more. But she talks about
the fascia or the collagen conducts electricity in
the body fiber optic, system of communication in
the body. So this protein, these structural parts of
our body are light conducted and they also help to
transfer electrons. And so, that’s all about energy

exchange, information exchange, communication.
So crystalline water, structured water and the
fascia is a superconductor. Again, it transfers
energy and information, and that’s what I say
there. And then Doctor Jean-Claude Guimberteau,
sorry, I don’t speak French and I always butcher
his name. But he’s this wonderful French
physician who did these live images of hand
surgeries and show that this connective tissue
in the fascia is actually holding us together like a
crocheted sack. It’s not only the structural aspect,
but it’s also what he calls a hidden irrigation
system a hidden electrical system conducted
by water that’s in cell communication instantly.
It’s our internet. To work well, it must be fully
hydrated. So again, the fascia is not only a
structural Saran wrap in the body, but it’s this
water deliberate system, this light conductive
system, this electron transfer system that
improves cell to cell communication, and that’s
ultimately what health is.
So I love the work of Doctor Dana Cohen and Gina
Bria. They have the hydrationfoundation.org, and
they’d go into this in more depth. So to have a
healthy lymphatic system, we want to have more
structured water in our cells and inn our bodies.
So whenever we talk about the lymphatic system,
I always like to talk about the lymphatics in the
gut because of the role of how interconnected
lymphatic system is in the body. We want to
optimize the lymph in the gut.
So I also already talked about how we absorb a
lot of our fats through the lacteals in the small
intestine. We also have these gut associated
lymphoid tissues, like Peyer’s patches or
mesenteric lymph nodes that really help our
immune system and our digestive tract. Then
again, in the small intestine, we have the lacteals
that absorb fats, that help to package these
fats and then they become hormones and cell
membranes and all sorts of things. And then we
have a huge lymphatic system, of course, in our
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large intestine as well.
Then taking it a step further, one of Doctor
Klinghardt’s students in Germany, she really
looked at this lymph behind the gut, the lymph
that actually got stagnant behind the abdomen,
we call it radix edema. And when we think about
this body-wide network, if there’s pooling or a
stagnation in one tissue, it can affect the whole
system. We have to keep the whole system
moving, so we have to have in our lymph draining
in our abdomen in order to have our head and
extremities drain. This is something that we do at
Sophia. We called Sophia Matrix where we work
on the abdomen first. You can also do mayan
abdominal massage, castor oil packs. Anything
to get the lymph moving in the gut can be very
helpful for your body-wide system. We’ll talk
about abdominal scars in a moment.
Again, the glymphatic system. So whenever
we talk about the lymph system, we have to
acknowledge the glymphatic system. It’s one of
my most favorite things to talk about.
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It’s still one of those newly discovered systems.
It was discovered in about 2015, I think at the
University of Virginia where I went to school.
The glymphatic system is the glial-dependent
lymphatic system. So it really only operates when
we’re in deep sleep and that’s why sleep is so
important. So when we have deep sleep, our
brains actually shrink in size to have this lymph
move quickly in and out of our brain to bring
nutrients to our neurons and remove waste.
And so, it flows along the arteries here, you see
these glial cells, or what we call astrocytes, these
spidery-like cells that they have and feet, which
have these aquaporin channels. These aquaporin
channels help to regulate lymph drainage along
these neurons. So it’s bringing this fluid, that’s
going to move this waste and get eliminated out
along the veins.
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This also shows when people had traumatic
brain injuries or concussions, the system can
get damaged. A damaged with system leads to
neurodegeneration because it doesn’t allow the
lymphatic system to remove this waste out of
the brain, which is tied to things like a buildup
of amyloid plaque, which we see as a hallmark
in cognitive decline and dementia. Again, this
is talking about how the system is most active
during sleep. They’ve showed studies that when
you don’t have enough sleep, that you actually
build up this amyloid beta. And then I already
said how our brain shrinks to help increase the
efficiency of this waste removal.
So sleep is very, very important to have a healthy
brain and prevent or recover from a cognitive
neurological illness. Again, we know about
the glymphatic system, because it’s a whole
interconnected network, if one part of the body is
stagnant that can affect in pull lymph in another
distant or neighboring tissue. So we look at the
health, this tissue called Waldeyer’s ring because
the glymph or the lymph in the brain drains along
the cribriform plate where this is in the sinuses.
And then also goes through the pathway of
Waldeyer’s ring which is this lymphatic ring of
tissue in the mouth, which has the adenoids, the
tubal consoles, the palatine tonsils, and the lingual
tonsils. The health of this tissue is really important
because if this tissue is chronically infected, if
you’re producing tonsil stones or there’s a lot of
immune activation in this tissue, it can actually
affect upstream the lymph from draining out of
the brain. So Doctor K calls the tonsils, the toilet of
the brain. All the lymphatics drain the brain, then
the sinuses, teeth, eyes, ears, scalp, skull bones,
and all other tissues above the neck pass through
Waldeyer’s ring. We actually find that most of
our patients have some type of imbalance or
dysregulation in this tonsillar tissue. So to recover
the glymphatic system or the lymphatic system, or
really their immune system, we often have to do
therapeutics that addressed the tonsils.
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The tonsils are also part of the gut-associated
lymphatic tissue. So this is where I say the tonsils
are part of the gut-brain connection because
it’s affecting the drainage of lymph out of the
brain. There’s also, in the world with PANS and
PANDAS, if this tissue is chronically infected we
can see that immune cells can enter the brain via
the cribriform plate and create a lot of microglial
activation and that turns into neuroinflammation.
So we see that brain connection and then because
of its role in educating and informing the immune
system and the digestive tract and being part of
a GALT, that it’s this gut-brain connection. And
so, we talk about also, if you’ve had your tonsils
removed and sometimes the tonsillectomy is
warranted, especially in PANS and PANDAS we
see that. But if you have scar tissue that forms in
the back of your throat that can become what we
call a scar interference field. That can affect blood
flow ultimately to the pineal gland via basically
the constriction of fascia around the sympathetic
superior cervical ganglion, rather.
And if there’s poor communication there that
can restrict communication and blood flow to
the pineal gland, reducing potentially melatonin
production and leading to poor sleep, also of
course, brain fog, memory loss, anxiety. So
looking at not only this tissue being the source
of the gut-brain connection, or one of the many
aspects rather of the gut-brain connection, but
if you have chronic issues and this has been
overlooked, addressing the scar tissue in the back
of the throat could really help move your system
forward. So again, looking downstream, we have
Waldeyer’s ring, then cervical lymph nodes. So
our friend Doctor Ruggiero helped us to really
acknowledge that the health and the drainage of
the cervical lymph nodes really helps and allows
the glymph and the lymph part of the brain
drain. So if you have chronic congestion in these
cervical lymph nodes, that can create pooling of
lymph in the brain and create more stagnation,
again, leading to poor cell communication and
potentially neurodegeneration.

So that is basically what I say here. The other
thing that I can say because of the slide, again,
remember the lymph is an immune surveillance
system. If you have chronically congested lymph
nodes, you could have a chronic viral infection.
You can have Lyme and co-infections, there’s
some root to that. And so we have to look at
that, of course, as well. And the proximity to the
cervical lymph nodes to the vagus nerve, there
can be some basically cervical lymphadenopathy
or infections in the cervical lymph nodes that can
create vagus nerve injection. And that can create
a lot of vagus nerve symptoms, which is very
popular right now to look at. So the vagus nerve
is the 10th cranial nerve. It has a lot to engage
your parasympathetic nervous system that is all
about rest, digest and healing. It’s a big part of
innervation of our heart and our lungs and our
digestive tract. So it’s a really important nerve to
have working well.
Again, thinking about the lymphatic system,
we also have to look at the dental connection.
Because the dental piece, if there is still metals
like mercury from amalgam fillings, root canals
that are full of infection or poorly healed wisdom
tooth, sites that are form cavitations, that can
affect the Waldeyer’s ring, the lymphatic system
and create stagnation or pooling or this constant
poisoning of the lymph system. So each tooth
really connected to an acupuncture meridian. So
we see this dental systemic connection all the
time, and then also the teeth rather develop from
the same tissue as the nervous system, so we see
this nervous system connection. Also because of
the proximity and the anatomy of anything, any
bugs or toxicants here can affect the tonsils, can
affect the vagus nerve, can affect those cervical
lymph nodes, the thyroid. So we see the dental
pieces are very often overlooked system.
This is why I ask people to bring in a panoramic
x-ray, or they often get also a CT scan, a cone
beam from their biological dentist. And this is
patient’s map with root canals, many fillings
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possible, cavitations. So there was a bridge here
and that might not have always healed. We see
the sinus. So there’s many things that we can
glean from looking at a patient’s mouth. And then
scars can create what we call an interference field.
So scar therapy is something that we do at Sophia
Health Institute. And really this information comes
out of a German technique called neural therapy.
Neural therapy was developed in the early 1900s,
and they looked at how to restore communication
in the autonomic nervous system and looking
at where there would be poorly communicated
tissue. So either ganglia or focal infections in
the body, or a scar. Scars can be disruptive for a
number of reasons. The actual cells in the scar can
have a lower resting membrane potential than
other cells. And so it can be this constant low rate
stress to the autonomic nervous system. They can
also affect neighboring fascia, lymphatics around
the surrounding tissues.
What happens also in one area can affect distant
tissues because of that crinkle, the Saran wrap
idea. And then scars can hold emotional trauma
as well, so if you’ve had an emergency C-section
or a really hard surgery or an injury. We know
that our body can hold emotions. I’ve seen a lot of
positive emotional releases when we treat scars.
We can treat them with neural therapy. We often
use Procaine, which is preservative free. That’s
traditionally used with neural therapy. And then
if you don’t have access to somebody who does
neural therapy, you can do topical shea butter
or the Sophia Flow. Light can also help with this.
Then again, addressing scars can help increase
the flow of lymph in the body.
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I’ve talked a lot about what glymphatic system is.
We also talked about its interconnection with the
extracellular matrix, this idea of the fascia, the
interstitium, improving the fourth phase of water,
is the structured water in our bodies.

We also looked at the lymph and the gut, because
if that’s not draining that can create pooling
in other places. Also the glymphatic system in
the brain and how we have to have really good
sleep for that to work. But also we have to
look downstream and look at the mouth, also
the sinuses, the cervical lymph nodes. That is
all moving, so then the lymph can drain. And
then addressing scars. If you haven’t had good
success with your treatments or you’re really
stuck or plateaued, look into scar therapy and
see if that could help create more movement
and flow in your body. Again, because the system
doesn’t have any pumping action, we actually
have to move the lymph in our body through
movement, hydration. I like using things that will
help structure the water that we drink as well as
structuring the water inside our cells, which can
be the UV light or infrared light.
There’s also structured water devices. Again,
really good clean water as well. Dry skin brushing.
We have all of our patients Sophia do dry
skin brushing. Castor oil packs, scar therapy, I
mentioned. Evaluate the dental history. Inclined
sleeping can also improve lymphatic drainage. So
actually propping your bed up about 5° can help
drain the lymph at night.
Our friends at Samina Bed, they make an incline
bed and they have wonderful beds with really
clean materials and grammy beds. Check them
out. Then the lymphatic drainage massage. So
just again Doctor Klinghardt has a self-lymphatic
drainage massage on our website, sophiahi.com/
videos, so you can do that yourself, if you don’t
have access to a lymphatic drainage massage
person. But if you’ve been sick for a while and
struggling for a while, I would really encourage
you to find a good lymphatic trained therapist in
your area to help get your lymph moving.
If you feel flu-like our worst after a lymph
drainage massage, it doesn’t mean it wasn’t
the right thing. It just could be that you have a
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lot of stagnation and you need to support your
body with maybe binders and more immune
support. Talk to your physician about how to
get that, but don’t give up on lymph. It’s actually
highly needed. Rebounding, vibration plates,
photobiomodulation, which is this red light
therapy or near red light that can help to improve
circulation, but also the structure the water in our
cells. And of course, different herbal supplements.
We love cleavers and red root and red Clover.
And then I just shared a couple of supplements
that we like, I think on the next slide. So these are
more topicals to help.
So we developed Sophia Flow Cream with Doctor
Ruggiero. Again, what makes this cream unique is
that it has a peptide called macrophage-activating
factor in it. And that helps to support the immune
system while the lymph was congesting the first
place. So the Flow Cream was really developed
to be applied to the neck to help with lymphatic
drainage, but we found that it helps with scars,
helps with pain for some people, helps with
improving blood flow or circulation. BioKine,
which is part of BioPure has two deodorants.
One is called the nighttime deodorant that I have
patients put on their neck, their clavicle, their
underarms, their bikini line, behind their knees
and bottoms of their feet at bedtime to help with
drainage. And then they have a Fem-Tox, which is
a little bit of a different blend of herbs that really
is focused on breast health.
And so I didn’t talk about breast health here, but
breast health is really tied into our lymphatic
system. So if you have breast symptoms, please
look at your lymphatic system. And this is a new
product that I developed with my dear friend and
an herbalist called LYMPHA-GEM and it’s a lymph
oil. So we wanted to create something that, it can
be used more simply and on the go. So it’s an oil
infusion of some of our most favorite herbs to
help move the lymph. So it has red root, calendula
and nettles, and red clover. It’s activated in a red
clover, calendula and green tree extract. And then
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we added three essential oils that help to move

lymph. So frankincense, geranium, and chrysene.
So that’s been a lot of fun to play around with as
well.

So just find what works for you. These are tools

that I use often, but there are many tools out
there. But the main point that we’re trying to
share through this lymphatic system masterclass
is how important your lymphatic system is to
your health. And the more that you can do to
improve the flow of your own lymphatic system,
that translates into improved health. So I think
that’s all, but I hope that everyone is enjoying the
masterclass. Thank you so much again, Shivan
for having me and I hope everyone enjoys this
masterclass.

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