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By Mike Schauer, founder of Swiped.co bad, and the ugly. On your mark, get set, go!

Dearest funnel hacker, No doubt, the number three is a major, universal theme in
our society, but why?
Before we dive into this month’s
findings, I want to give a big thank My take: it has to do with the number three’s sense of
you to everyone who’s reached out completion.
or joined me inside the membership.
To show you what I mean, let’s look at it’s surrounding
I’m absolutely thrilled to be working on this newsletter with numbers...
Russell and the ClickFunnels team. Reverse-engineering
funnels and marketing campaigns is always fascinating When we think of the number two, we often relate it to a
to me and I hope that comes across in the research and matchup or a duo. If you have four things to share, it starts to
discoveries that I share with you. feel like a list. And if you have five points to make, overwhelm
creeps in and remembering it all can be strenuous.
As Walt Disney once said, “we keep moving forward, opening
new doors, and doing new things, because we’re curious and This is important to keep in mind, because when selling, it’s
curiosity keeps leading us down new paths.” crucial that your prospect:

And curiosity is the fuel that drives this newsletter and 1. Doesn’t get overwhelmed with information (too much),
everything I teach. Life never gets boring when you’re and...
curious and in the case of this newsletter, your marketing will 2. Doesn’t feel like your solution is missing something
never get boring either. (too little).

Taking in fresh, cutting-edge ideas and techniques to And that’s why in marketing messages and presentations,
implement in your own funnels is the mark of a smart focusing on three points (under a single, overarching idea) is
marketer. Even if you’re a beginner, know that you’re on the the ultimate sweet spot.
right path.
This is not just my opinion, by the way. It’s the consensus of
With that said, let’s dive into this month’s topic! the online marketing world and I’ll show you exactly what I
mean in just a moment. First, we’re going to discuss...

The Magical “Power of 3” The Power of Three


In Your Funnels In Russell’s Now Famous
Recognize these popular stories? The Three Little Pigs, Three Perfect Webinar Script
Musketeers, Goldilocks and The Three bears, Three Blind
Mice, Three Wise Men. Are you familiar with Russell’s Perfect Webinar script? If not,
I’ll give you a quick overview.
Or how about these concepts: ABC-123. The Father, the Son
and the Holy Spirit. Blood, sweat and tears. The good, the After years of testing and trial and error, Russell fleshed out

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Perfect
webinar script

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a step-by-step, sales presentation blueprint that seemed to To demonstrate what I mean, we’re going to take a look
work like gangbusters everytime he used it. at two funnels in this issue from the largest health and
wellness advertiser online.
Whether for an on-stage presentation or a webinar, the script
outperformed everything else he tried. They’re a 9-figure company that continues to grow in leaps
and bounds and they have some of the best marketers and
Now, I’m not going to go through the entire script with you copywriters working for them.
because there’s plenty of free information about it online.
However, the core of Russell’s Perfect Webinar template is that: They have over a dozen brands, all led by doctors and
celebrities and believe it or not, all of their funnels basically
1. You want to convince your prospect of one thing that have the same structure! This is pretty revealing, considering
when believed, will make your solution seem like the that they test the wazoo out of every significant page that
logical buying choice. they publish.
2. In order to convince them of that single idea, you deliver
content in your presentation that addresses the three However, I’m not just sharing this because of the funnels
biggest limiting beliefs or objections tied to the one idea. themselves. It turns out most all of their high-converting
VSLs (and they have many) follow the “one thing + three
In Russell’s case, he covertly counters these objections within sub-things” structure found in the Perfect Webinar script.
“three secrets” that he shares in the core of his presentation.
And I’m going to show you examples of how they do that!
That way, the audience feels like they’re listening to content
and not a sales pitch. These implementations will look different than the typical
Perfect Webinar examples you’re used to, but they follow the
same underlying principles that generate results.

But Do They Have To Be Framed My goal for you is to see the Perfect Webinar through
As “Secrets”? Are There Other a slightly different lens so that you start to think more
Variations That Work? creatively about how you can use it.

The key to this answer has to do with understanding why the With that said, let’s jump right into it!
Perfect Webinar works.

I find that most people who have problems utilizing a The Funnels
template or blueprint don’t seek to understand why it works
in the first place. The big-spending, 9-figure advertiser you’re going to learn
about this month is Golden Hippo Media. As you’re about
They just follow it blindly, copy and pasting, swiping and to see, Golden Hippo Media sells everything starting with
deploying etc. a VSL. The VSLs are usually between 40 minutes to an hour
and as I mentioned, most of them follow the guts of the
Yet, once you know why frameworks like the Perfect Webinar Perfect Webinar.
work, it’s a lot easier to use it in a variety of situations other
than just a webinar or for a specific type of product. Now, the reason why the company has grown so quickly is

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because they keep entering new sub-markets in the health The first two ads take you to their dog food VSL. The second
and wellness niche. two ads take you to their cat food VSL. And the last two ads
are for a probiotic supplement.
They usually find some sort of celebrity doctor to be the face
and voice of the product. Then they create a VSL that has Their most popular headline formula for the brand is, “3
a 5-7 minute intro with the expert or a professionally done Ways Your [Cat or Dog] Asks For Help”.
montage, which then leads to your typical VSL-style black
and white powerpoint slides. And as you can see, the dogs and cats in their ads usually
look sad.
To make things interesting, I’m sharing examples from two
very different products they sell.

One is a dog food (they also sell cat food and dog
supplements). And the other is a weight loss supplement.

Both of these products are advertised heavily and


combined, get over 2 million visitors per month according to
SimilarWeb.

The Ads
To the right are examples of native ads for Golden Hippo’s
pet brand, Dr. Marty (named after the veterinary expert, Dr.
Martin Goldstein).

“3 signs”
headlines
create
emotion Dr. Marty’s Ads

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Overall, the headline and image represent that feeling pet The face of Nucific is Dr. Amy Lee, the Founder and Director
owners get when their pet is acting uncharacteristically and of the Integrative Wellness Center in Los Angeles.
looks under the weather.
As you can see, most of their ads focus on three foods you
It’s a painful experience because we’re not sure what’s must avoid. That’s a big part of their VSL presentation. One of
wrong with them since they can’t talk to us. It’s a very strong their top-running ads includes the image of a fridge with an
emotion that Golden Hippo is tapping into. arrow pointing to some random items. This ad is driven by
curiosity. It creates a desire to know what the foods are.
Next we have the ads for one of their most, if not the
most promoted product, BIO-X4, which is a weight loss Another popular ad is the one at the bottom with the
supplement from their brand, Nucific. strange-looking spiky objects. Those are actually sea
cucumbers and although they have nothing to do with the
VSL, the point is to make you wonder, “what the heck is
that?” and click through to find out.

Notice how every headline is rooted in pain avoidance. They


only advertise harmful things you don’t know. That’s because
we’re more motivated to avoid pain than to gain pleasure.

The VSL
Unless a particular content advertiser prohibits linking
directly to VSLs, Golden Hippo always prefers to send visitors
right to their video presentation. If that’s not possible, they
use a short newsworthy article as an intermediary like the
example on page 7.

Otherwise, you’re directed to a VSL pages like


DogFoodExposed.com or CatFoodExposed.com (shown on
Nucific’s Ads page 8) which is the same exact page template, but one is
for cat food and the other is for dog food.

These ads create curiosity


and a desire to avoid pain
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Dr. Marty’s Article Page (this page is the bridge between their ads and the VSL)

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Dr. Marty’s Dog Food VSL

Dr. Marty’s Cat Food VSL

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Combined, these sites get an estimated one million visitors
per month.

You can also see the VSL page for Nucific’s BIO-X4 on the
right. Because they don’t advertise on ad networks that
prohibit direct to VSL traffic, they don’t use or need an
advertorial.

As you can see, Nucific’s VSL is very similar to the page for Dr.
Marty. Overall, Golden Hippo likes to let their MD expert and
video presentation be the star of the show.

For all of their brands, the VSL pages are very minimal. They
make sure you have your speakers turned up, that you don’t
leave the page early (“page may take 10 seconds to load”)
and they usually include a sidebar blurb about the expert.
Otherwise, everything else is extra.

This video-focused format is not for the timid because it


requires that your VSL is really good, but theirs are very well
done. They all have a similar format and are a little under 50
minutes long.

If you watch the first 5 or so minutes, it’s edited and narrated


like a special TV news story. Then it transitions to black and
white powerpoint slides. By that time, after watching the first
few minutes, it’s more likely the visitor will stick around. Nucific’s VSL

These two pages get


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• The pet food one thing: that in order for their pet to be
How They Use The “One Thing, optimally healthy, they need to consume these three
Three Sub-Things” Structure super-nutrients daily.
• The weight loss one thing: that losing weight becomes
As you can see in the ads, they like to advertise three things easy once you have these four nutrients in your daily diet.
that they will reveal in their presentation.
Now here’s where everything really comes together...
Now, in terms of Russell’s Perfect Webinar, the three things
or secrets should be designed to target the prospect’s In the video presentation, they tell you what the super
biggest limiting beliefs and objections. nutrients are, which is helpful, but in order to benefit, you’d
have to research different supplements that contain these
Golden Hippo takes a similar route, but tailors it for selling nutrients and hope they’re quality products.
supplements and doesn’t use the “secrets” label.
Once the prospect realizes this, the expert swoops in to
In fact, just like how their ads are rooted in pain avoidance, the rescue and says, luckily I put all of these super nutrients
so are their three things. conveniently into a formula for you so all you have to do is
take one pill/scoop to start seeing results.
For instance, here are the exact examples of what they share
in their VSLs: Overall, they structure the presentation to build belief in
the ingredients and then present the product as the only
• 3 Premature Pet Killers (dog food) solution with the combination of those ingredients.
• 3 Cat Health Destroyers (cat food)
• 3 Dog Health Myths or 3 Canine Distress Calls (probiotic) That’s the essence of what the Perfect Webinar aims to do,
• 3 Harmful Foods (weight loss) but applied to a supplement.

With that said, for every bad thing (myth, destroyer, killer For instance, in Russell’s Funnel Hacks webinar, if we
etc.), there’s a positive thing that they counter it with. For reformatted his three secrets to fit Golden Hippo’s problem-
instance, here are examples of the positive points: solution structure, it would look something like this...

• 3 Pet Super Nutrients (dog food) 1. Funnel Myth #1: Building Funnels Is Hard
• 3 Cat Longevity Discoveries (cat food) a. Funnel Success Secret #1: Ethically Steal Over
• 4 Fat Loss Helpers (weight loss) - it’s 4 instead of 3 $1,000,000 of Funnel Hacks From Your Competitors,
because they added a bonus helper For Under $100
2. Funnel Myth #2: Building Funnels Takes A Lot Of Time
This is a classic example of problem-solution where you focus a. Funnel Success Secret #2: Clone Their PROVEN
on problem areas first, before cutting to the ideal solution. Funnels In Less Than 10 Minutes
3. Funnel Myth #3: Getting Traffic To My Funnel Will Be
And just like in the Perfect Webinar, all of these points Difficult
support the “one thing” the prospect must be convinced of a. Funnel Success Secret #3: Get Your Competitors
to believe they need the product. SAME Customers To Start Coming To Your Website

For example: The structure is different, but the messaging would be the

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same. Really, Russell just discusses the “myths” without “assessment page” after you click the call-to-action button
spelling them out so directly. under the VSL.

Bonus Lesson: if you look at Russell’s three secrets, they They give you the option to skip this entirely (so they don’t
focus on convincing you to USE a funnel-building platform. get increased cart abandonments). However, if the potential
It’s different with supplements in that people don’t have customer decides to answer, the company collects valuable
any resistance to taking a supplement. It’s easy to pop a pill. information about who’s buying their products.
Instead, a supplement must be sold based on its contents. In
the early stages of a market, you must convince people that You can see an example of an assessment for the dog food.
they should use something in the first place. Once the mass
consensus believes in its use, the focus shifts to its contents. Usually these contain 3-4 questions and often have at least
one of these:

The Assessment Page • A question about age


• A question about you or your pet’s gender
Around 75% of Golden Hippo’s sites direct you to an • “Why do you want [product name]?” (my favorite)

Dr. Marty’s Dog Assessment Page

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The “Choose Your Package” Page
This is the page where you pick how many bags or bottles
you want. Instead of going right to checkout and only
getting one item, they always give you three options to get
an order of 1, 3 or 6. The choice of 3 items is automatically
selected and in order to get just one, you have to click on the
option yourself.

As you can see, the dog and cat food pages are exactly the
same with swapped wording and photos. The call-to-action
is above the fold with a brief description and below the fold
is a 90-day money back guarantee with FAQs.

The “Choose Your Package” page for the weight loss


supplement uses the same elements, but is slightly different
in terms of how they lay out the quantity options.

THey offer
a choice to
buy 1, 3 or
6 packages,
with 3 pre-
selected
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Dr. Marty’s Choose Your Dog Food Package
Dr. Marty’s Choose Your Cat Food Package Nucific’s Choose Your Supplement Package

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Dr. Marty’s Checkout Page Nucific’s Checkout Page

The Checkout Page loss supplement actually used the same exact sequence:

There’s nothing particularly special about these. They use a • They both have three upsells and three downsells.
standard checkout page on mcssl.com and will sometimes • Each upsell is for a package of three whereas each
include a phone number at the top, customer service hours downsell is for a single item purchase.
and mention of free shipping, if they offer it. • In each funnel, the first upsell is for more of the same
product whereas the second two are for complimentary

After Checkout products.

(Upsells & Downsells) For instance, Dr. Marty’s upsells look like this:

Both funnels I went through for the dog food and the weight • Upsell #1: More of the core product (dog food)

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Each upsell is followed
by a downsell for only one
of the same product

Dr. Marty’s Upsell #1 Dr. Marty’s Downsell #1

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Dr. Marty’s Upsell #2 Dr. Marty’s Downsell #2

Dr. Marty’s Upsell #3 Dr. Marty’s Downsell #3

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• Upsell #2: A Digestive Supplement (Probiotics)
• Upsell #3: A Joint Supplement

And Nucific’s upsells look like this:

• Upsell #1: More of the core product (weight loss


probiotic)
• Upsell #2: A Probiotic Complex Supplement
• Upsell #3: A Digestive Supplement

As you can see, the upsell pages don’t contain much copy.
The draw is mostly around the discount you’re getting,
which they justify on every page. Remember, whenever
you offer a discount, ALWAYS justify it. In this case, they
emphasize that they are able to give you a hefty discount
because they don’t have the same processing and fulfillment
costs for order add-ons.

In terms of the actual percentage discount, it’s interesting how


it goes slightly down as you progress through the funnel. For

Nucific’s Upsell #1 Nucific’s Downsell #1

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Nucific’s Upsell #2 Nucific’s Downsell #2

Nucific’s Upsell #3 Nucific’s Downsell #3

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instance, this is what the percentages look like for each: loss probiotic. Then they offer you a probiotic complex
supplement, followed by a digestive supplement. With the
Dr. Marty: exception of describing them in FAQ format, they don’t state
58% → 57% → 57% → 54% → 45% → 40% off anything at the top of the page regarding what it is and how
it will compliment the main product. Dr. Marty’s funnel does
Nucific: a better job of this where he talks about how each product
32% → 26% → 30% → 25% → 30% → 25% off compliments each other.

Other than the discount, every page mentions their 90-day


guarantee and the upsells always have a little more copy The Thank You Page
than the downsells.
After the upsell sequence, you’re taken to a page on their
I must admit though: one thing I thought was lacking for main site with a receipt. There’s nothing particularly special
Nucific’s funnel is their ability to connect all of the upsells in about these. However, they tell you an approximated
a cohesive way. For instance, their main product is a weight shipping time, that a receipt will be emailed to you and that

Nucific’s Thank You Page

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Dr. Marty’s Thank You Page

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Dr. Marty’s
Pet Food

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Nucific

if you need to update your order, to contact them. These are top marketing promotions and funnels. In the free archives,
all things that reassure the customer about their purchase I have hundreds of dissected examples of amazing
and set expectations so they’re not wondering when they’ll copywriting and salesmanship.
receive their package.
And in my private, premium membership, that’s where I
share all of my findings so you stay in-the-know on what the
More at Swiped.co best of the best A-player marketers are doing to make their
millions. This is high-level stuff and only for those who want
That concludes this month’s issue of Funnel U! Hope you to think like the top 1% of online marketers and copywriters.
enjoyed it :-) If you have any questions or comments to
share, feel free to reach out and contact me personally at The content I share in the members area is what compelled
mike@swiped.co. Would love to hear from you! Russell to have me teach at Funnel U. The membership is not
available to the public at the moment as I’m keeping it very
If you want to check out more breakdowns from me, my site private, but you can get a free trial membership at:
Swiped.co is the official resource for reverse-engineering http://swiped.co/funnelhackers. Talk again soon :-)

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