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ECase 08 - Tutorial 1 - 2021 Josh Thomas
ECase 08 - Tutorial 1 - 2021 Josh Thomas
Symptoms
sleep ne
no chest pain
Now summarise what you know about Mr Wise's presenting symptoms. This is an important skill for you to practise.
no chest pain
While Mr Wise denies experiencing any "concerning" palpitations, what might that feeling of "something" in his chest
indicate when considered with his other symptoms?
atrial brilation?
Patient History
Mr Wise - past medical, family, and social history
notes:
no diabetes or FH
engineer
father arthritis
How might his family history and past medical history link with the symptoms he reports?
could possibly familial hypercholesterolemia as there is evidence to suggest high levels of thrombi or atherosclerosis
What further information do you need to better establish what might be causing Mr. Wise's symptoms?
Mr Wise has been referred to Cardiology by his GP and shortly, on reading his clinical record, you will learn more about
him. For now, however, list some questions that you would have asked Mr Wise if you were his GP, in order to better
inform your ideas around the reason(s) for his original presentation.
Make a list of the possible causes for Mr Wise’s presentation that you consider need exploring further.
Trauma
atrial brilation
atrial stenosis?
mitral stenosis?
Arrhythmia
RHD
infective endocarditis
Details
Re ection: Make a note of the areas that you missed. Have a think about how you could remember to
include these areas.
Consider previous times you've completed exercises like this, how is your learning progressing in
comparison.
Unsteadiness: need to know more about the nature of Mr Wise’s "unsteadiness of gait". Is he is losing his balance or
feeling dizzy/faint? Has he ever passed out / nearly passed out? Has he had any other symptoms accompanying the
unsteadiness (e.g. visual changes, speech di culties, altered sensation, nausea, vomiting)? How often does he have
these “unsteady” spells? Has the frequency increased?
Hypertension & Lipids: how hypertensive is he? When did he last have his blood pressure measured and his lipids
checked? How have these values changed over time and with his dietary e orts? Does he have any pain in his calves
when he walks / exercises? If he does, what makes it better? (looking for intermittent claudication - a sign of
peripheral vascular disease linked to hyperlipidaemia and the deposition of atheromatous plaque)
'Chest sensations': ask him to describe his 'chest sensations' again. If “pain” does not describe this, what words
(tightness, uttery) would he use to describe it?
Shortness of Breath: ask speci cally about respiratory pathology. Has he ever had asthma or chronic bronchitis?
Does he presently or has he ever smoked? If so, what, how many and for how long?
Medicines: does he take any medications or over the counter supplements at all? Which ones? Does he have any
known allergies (to what and what sort of reaction does he have?)
Social: Is he still working - part or full time? What e ect have his symptoms had on his capacity to work? How
worried does he think his wife is about him and what is it like at home? How has he been feeling in himself generally?
Is he nancially pressed with not being able to work presently? If he does smoke cigarettes, how ready is he to
quit? Does he drink alcohol - what and how much?
Timeline: need to establish a better timeline around the nature, onset, duration, and severity of his symptoms; are
the symptoms worsening and if so, what brings them on, what eases them and over what time frame? What does he
hope will happen with cardiology referral?
Examining
Drag the parts of the Cardiovascular Exam you would like to complete from the white section below (on the left) across
to the blue section. Order these appropriately.
Observe for
Pedal pulses Observe for
distress Carotid pulse
distress
Observe face
Inspect hands
especially colour
Inspect hands Inspect chest
Observe face
Pedal pulses
especially colour
JVP Carotid pulse
he also had a pulse pressure of 140 which is showing great di erence between diastolic and systolic pressures (could
indicate atrial problem as systolic pressure is high)
no ankle swelling so no peripheral odema so most likely not right heart failure
no chest pain or crushing sensations so probably not angina or arthersclerosis possibly palpitations as they are
described as uttering
Here are some investigations for you to consider. For each investigation, drag those you would like to order on to the
image of Mr Wise while those you consider not needed can be dragged into the bin.
Complete Bin
Lipid pro le
FSH
Investigation results
all blood counts were in normal range unlikely to be an infection and bleeding times were normal
chest xray showed signs of enlarged heart as heart was greater than 50% of diaphragm
possible hypertrophy
would explain dspnoea on exertion and fatigue and the unusual uttering sensation in the chest
Mr Wise's rhythm
QRS Complex
Other notes
Mr. wise has an irregular irregular rythym with a absent p wave(f wave) which indicates atrial
brilation
De nitive diagnosis
Record of the Patient History
no chest pain
3months ago feeling more fatigued than usual so came to GP for help. Now referred to cardiologist
Symptom analysis
no chest pain
Patient's perspective:
Ideas
Concerns
Expectations
E ects on life
Feelings
Background Information
Past medical history (PMH)
no diabetes or FH
Medications
none
Allergies:
none
Family history
father arthritis
Review of systems
Physical Examination
On examination he was described as a relatively thin 63 year-old gentleman who presents in no distress. He has
slight facial ushing - no signs of anaemia or jaundice.
Apex beat in the 5th ICSMCL (thrusting). S1, and S2 normal. No murmurs.
No ankle swelling.
hypercholesteolima
high LDL
Atrial brilation
Plan of management
Atrial Fibrillation
Explaining
The registrar looks in to see how the admission is progressing. She reads over your summary (nodding approvingly!);
then asks you to:
"Explain the 'irregularly irregular' pulse that the GP commented on. How does this observation relate to the rhythm strip
from ED?"
the heart beats are irregular and there is no pattern to their irregularity . This is seen in the ECG as the f waves and Qrs
complex times vary irregularly. This is because when an f wave depolarises the SA node enough to trigger the AV node
then only will a QRS complex start
Are there any dangers for the patient - if so what are they?"
irregular heart beats impacts the bodies ability to supply blood through the body which would explain the exercise
induced dyspnoea.
What are we trying to treat? How do we do that? Why are those our goals for treatment?"
wa rrin is used as an anticoagulant that blocks vitamin K which is crucial for many coagulation factors. This prevents
thrombi from forming.
metoprolol is a beta blocker which causes decrease in heart contractility and stroke volume decreasing the HR and
reducing the hypertensive e ects on the left ventricle .
Is that a problem?
The registrar continues ...
shock to the patients heart which causes the heart to go back to the sno atrial node pace
As she prepares to leave, the registrar comments that this is some of the information Mr Wise will need before he
consents to cardioversion.
As well as explaining the cardioversion procedure to Mr Wise, how else would you prepare him for giving informed
consent? What extra information might he need or want?
the risks
the costs
side e ects
recovery time
Review
Having now seen how cardioversion is actually carried out and heard the Cardiologist's explanation, add to your
notes any further details you would have like to have discussed with Mr Wise before he consented to the procedure.
it could potentially dislodge thrombi and caus a stroke but as you are on anticoagulants it is minimized
The Cardiologist mentioned that the shock in cardioversion is synchronised to coincide with the R-wave of the ECG.
it is important for carrdioversion to be on the r wave otherwise ventricularr brilation can be triggered
That afternoon
Shock sequence
Asystole
As you start to interpret these ECGs what is the FIRST thing you notice about the post-cardioversion ECG?
heart rate has dropped post cardioversion and there is still an irregular irregular heart beat
QRS Complex
rst it was f waves due to atrial brillation with irregular irregular rhythm but now its regular with normal p waves and
contracion
"Did it work?"
It solved the atrial brillation and now have normal sinus rhythm
Ongoing management
Do you have any concerns about the latest observations?
Mr. Wise elevated blood pressure (possibly due to beta blocker wearing o )
Medications!
Going back to your preparation material, which would be the most suitable class of anti-hypertensive agent for Mr
Wise? Which class/es would be contraindicated for him?
If Mr Wise had any of the following co-morbidities, sometimes seen in people with hypertension, which classes of anti-
hypertensive agents would be suitable and which would be used with caution or contraindicated for him; and why?
Renal artery stenosis ACE inhibitors or ARB ACE Inhibitors may make acute kidney
injury in sever aortal stenosis
CCB
Beta blockers
ACE
ARB
Peripheral vascular disease (PVD) ACE Beta blockers not as e ective as they
slow HR and CO which slows peripheral
ARB
perfusion
CCB
ARB
Adherence
Mr Wise - medicines notes:
wa rin
Using your notes and all the other information you have gathered on Mr Wise, identify issues that may create a problem
for Mr Wise adhering to the medicine and blood test regime.
How are you going to help him adhere to therapy and how will the family be able to help?
economic- nancial impact on Mr Wise making sure he can a ord the treatment
social- family how is his family feel about the medication and their support
adress Mr. wise concerns about beta blocker and how they make him feel tired maybe talk about the bene ts overr
the negatives
hypertension causes extra stress on the heart and can cause the signiling of the heart to muck up casuing atrial
rbirlation