Professional Documents
Culture Documents
Titles include:
Niall Hanlon
MASCULINITIES, CARE AND EQUALITY
Identity and Nurture in Men’s Lives
Brian Heaphy, Carol Smart and Anna Einarsdottir (editors)
SAME SEX MARRIAGES
New Generations, New Relationships
Sally Hines and Yvette Taylor (editors)
SEXUALITIES
Past Reflections, Future Directions
Meredith Nash
MAKING ‘POSTMODERN’ MOTHERS
Pregnant Embodiment, Baby Bumps and Body Image
Barbara Pini and Bob Pease (editors)
MEN, MASCULINITIES AND METHODOLOGIES
Victoria Robinson and Jenny Hockey
MASCULINITIES IN TRANSITION
Yvette Taylor, Sally Hines and Mark E. Casey (editors)
THEORIZING INTERSECTIONALITY AND SEXUALITY
Yvette Taylor, Michelle Addison (editors)
QUEER PRESENCES AND ABSENCES
Kath Woodward
SEX POWER AND THE GAMES
Barbara Pini
Griffith University, Australia
and
Bob Pease
Deakin University, Australia
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Contents
v
vi Contents
Index 249
Illustrations
Figures
Tables
vii
Acknowledgements
viii
Contributors
ix
x Notes on Contributors
ensuring that the research did not collude with intended or ongoing harm
to other people.
Mike Donaldson was for many years the Head of the Sociology Department
at the University of Wollongong, where he is now an Honorary Research
Fellow in the Faculty of Arts. His work on class and gender includes Male
Trouble (2003, with Stephen Tomsen), Ruling Class Men (2007, with Scott
Poynting) and Migrant Men: Critical Studies of Masculinities and the Migration
Experience (2009 with Ray Hibbins, Richard Howson and Bob Pease).
Bill’, Norma: Nordic Journal for Masculinity Studies, 2(1), 2007; ‘Performing
Feminist Affinity’, Atenea, 28(2), 2008; ‘Framing “Men” in Feminism’ with
J. Hearn, Journal of Gender Studies, 18(4), 2009; ‘Co-fielding in Qualita-
tive Interviews’, Qualitative Inquiry, 17(4), 2011; and ‘Feminist Men: From
Principle to Practice’ (2012).
Kip Jones is Reader in Qualitative Research in the Media School and School
of Health and Social Care at Bournemouth University. He was project lead for
the ‘Gay and Pleasant Land?’ project and author and executive producer of
the subsequent short film, Rufus Stone. He moderates the online newsgroup
Performative Social Science, has written articles and book chapters, produced
media, led masterclasses and keynoted on this emerging paradigm.
on volunteering, trust, social contact time and social mix in public housing,
primarily using quantitative methods. He has completed the ARC Discov-
ery 2009–2011: ‘Poor Women and Lonely Men: Examining Gendered Social
Inclusion and Connection in Australia’, concerned with gendered patterns
and emotional well-being associated with social connection, exclusion and
daily time-use patterns. He has also completed several studies on emotions
and is a co-founder and current co-convenor of the Australian Sociologi-
cal Association (TASA) thematic group on the Sociology of Emotions and
Affect (SEA).
Bob Pease is Chair of Social Work in the School of Health and Social
Development at Deakin University, Geelong, Australia. He is the author
or co-editor of 12 books reflecting his research interests in critical social
work, profeminist masculinity politics, global perspectives on men and
masculinities and men’s violence against women. His most recent books
include, as author, Undoing Privilege: Unearned Advantage in a Divided World
(2010) and, as co-editor, Migrant Men: Critical Studies of Masculinities and
the Migration Experience (2009), Critical Social Work: Theories and Prac-
tices for a Socially Just World (2009) and Men and Masculinities Around
the World: Transforming Men’s Practices (2011). He is currently writing a
book titled Migrant and Diasporic Masculinities: Immigrant Men and Gender
Relations in a Multicultural Society and co-editing a book titled The Poli-
tics of Recognition and Social Justice: Transforming Subjectivities in the New
Millennium.
Introduction
1
2 Gendering Methodologies and Men and Masculinities
As Popoviciu et al. (2006, p. 394) contend, seldom does research on men and
masculinities acknowledge and address the ‘interplay between theory, episte-
mology and methodology’. This is in stark contrast to the feminist literature
where there have been and remain strong connections between theory and
methodology. So, for example, writers have opened up to question how and
to what extent, from a feminist post-structural perspective, can we study
women (given such a singular category does not exist) or indeed feminine
identities (when these are understood as provisional, fractured, fluid and
multiple) (St Pierre and Pillow, 2000; Lather, 2006; Livholts, 2011). It is also
in contrast to other theoretical fields related to critical masculinity studies,
that is, queer theory and intersectional theory which we shall address later in
the chapter. To begin, however, we situate the chapters to come by introduc-
ing the emergence of feminist research and the masculinist response to this
challenge as well as provide an overview of the types of accounts that have
largely dominated methodological work on masculinities. That is, reflective
accounts of the experiences of a researcher studying men and masculinities
as either female or male.
and contested necessarily opened up new and lively discussions about the
possibilities of undertaking research labelled ‘feminist’ and research designed
to ‘empower’ (Lather, 1991; Probyn, 1993; Longhurst, 1996; St Pierre and
Pillow, 2000). Again, however, the burgeoning of research on men and
masculinities over the past two decades has been largely immune to these
debates.
What are the implications of the feminist critique of traditional social sci-
ence for men doing research on men? Morgan (1992) noted over 20 years
ago that sociological practice generally was gendered. Men in sociology were
thus challenged to make themselves aware of the feminist critique of the
social sciences. As the field of masculinity studies grows, it needs to be
remembered that such scholarship exists within a patriarchal institutional
context and a phallocentric discourse that values scientific knowledge and
objectivity over subjective experience (Hearn, 2007). Thus while the con-
text of gender scholarship remains male dominated, research on gender will
have political implications. Research on men and masculinities thus should
be understood as existing within the gendered social relations of university
life (Morgan, 1992).
However, as Morgan (1981) observed in an earlier essay, men have not
found it easy to take gender into account in the production of knowledge.
Only a few male social scientists have engaged sympathetically with the fem-
inist critique. While some prominent male scholars wrote hostile rejections
of feminist-informed approaches to social research because these challenged
the centrality of objectivity, most men in the academy simply ignored the
emergence of feminist scholarship and research practices (Delamont and
Atkinson, 2008). Sundberg (2003) suggests that men’s silence about their
gendered positioning in research reflects the masculinist notion of objectiv-
ity. In line with the feminist critique, such research fails to address the ways
in which power relations are embedded within all aspects of the research
process.
What does it mean for men to take gender into account in their research
methodologies? There has been an ongoing debate among feminist social
scientists about whether or not men can do feminist research (Peplau and
Conrad, 1989; Kremer, 1990). The question has also been raised about
whether men can use methodologies regarded as feminist to explore men’s
lives. Over 20 years ago, Kremer (1990) asked whether the methods devel-
oped for women researching women could be appropriate for men and
between women and men. She argued at that time that men should not use
feminist methods and that they cannot do feminist research. This is seen
to be an issue because men have different gender interests when it comes
to researching gender issues. In light of this, when one of us (Bob) utilized
6 Gendering Methodologies and Men and Masculinities
divided along multiple social categories against the reality of systematic gen-
der inequality (Brittan and Maynard, 1984; Messner, 2003). That is, how to
maintain the tension between an analysis of systemic gendered oppression
and differentiated forms of male power flowing from other social divisions
(Haywood and Mac an Ghaill, 2003).
In a recent contribution to debates about intersectionality and method-
ology Fotopoulou (2012) retraces some of the issues outlined above before
suggesting that an engagement with queer theory may be useful for advanc-
ing intersectional gender studies. This is in light of queer theory’s inherent
concern with de-naturalizing normative categories. That is, notwithstand-
ing ongoing debates and differences within what is a heterogeneous and
contested field, queer theory offers a challenge to the hierarchical and fixed
dichotomizing of heterosexual/homosexual identities whereby the former
is normative and the latter is rendered ‘other’ (Turner, 2000; Halberstam,
2003). In seeking to deconstruct the ‘truth’ of the normative sexual
binary and in arguing for a diverse and complicated range of sexualized
subjectivities, queer theory has obvious convergences with poststructural-
ism (Jagose, 1996). Similarly, as a transgressive project with a political agenda
to denaturalize categories, practices and identities, and the power relations
embedded within them, queer theory shares some epistemic foundations
with feminism, despite a sometimes fraught relationship between the two
fields (Rosenberg, 2008; Showden, 2012). According to Fotopoulou (2012),
there is shared conceptual ground as well between queer and intersectional
theory, and a possibility that methodological advances in both could rest on
a hybridization of both paradigms (see also Rahman, 2010).
What is minimized in Fotopoulou’s (2012) call for a methodological con-
versation between intersectional and queer theorists is that in queer studies,
as in intersectional studies, the proliferation of epistemological and onto-
logical critiques have not been matched by the methodological. There has,
however, been something of a queer methodological turn in the past few
years with two special editions of the publication Graduate Journal of Social
Science (Kulpa and Liinason, 2009), a special edition of Journal of Lesbian
Studies (Ryan-Flood and Rooke, 2009) and an edited collection (Browne and
Nash 2010) on the subject. These have been highly significant interven-
tions in signposting the questions, tensions and possibilities that might arise
when queer theory and methodologies are brought into conversation. For
example, in echoes of Harding’s (1987) earlier question to feminism Browne
and Nash (2010, p. 1) ask as they open their editorial introduction: Is there
such a thing as a queer method/methodology research? If the chapters that
follow are any indication the answer is ‘no’ given the variety of methods
adopted by contributors. Indeed, the vibrancy and diversity of methodolog-
ical approaches that are typically used in queer scholarship including visual
art, creative writing, video diaries (Hemmings and Grace, 1999) is a defin-
ing feature of the field, and one from which critical masculinity studies
Barbara Pini and Bob Pease 13
The book opens with a chapter by Jeff Hearn who continues his consid-
erable contribution to scholarship on men and masculinities by examin-
ing the efficacy of particular methods for the task of furthering critical
masculinities studies. He provides an overview of interviews, autobiography,
auto ethnography, memory work, textual analysis and re-readings, before
turning to address the relationship between methodologies and broader
epistemological and ontological questions related to men and masculinities.
Jeff’s invocation at the end of the chapter to monitor the direction of
critical men’s studies so that it does not re-centre and reify male power
is addressed by Bob Pease in Chapter 3 as he identifies what it means to
do profeminist research. Drawing upon feminist standpoint theory, Bob
argues that it is possible to construct a profeminist standpoint epistemol-
ogy to interrogate masculinity and male privilege. A profeminist standpoint
includes listening to feminist concerns, engaging in dialogue with women,
developing gender reflexivity and ensuring accountability to women’s inter-
ests. In summary, he argues that a profeminist position involves a concern
with ‘power, privilege and positionality’.
It is the latter issue, that of positionality, which is taken up in Chapter 4
by Tristan Bridges as he traverses some of the vexed ethical and political ter-
rain of his ethnographic research on three different groups of men in the
United States – a profeminist group, a fathers’ rights group and a group of
male bar regulars. Tristan describes engaging a role he labels ‘the least mas-
culine role’ (which he adopts from Mandell 1988) as a performative strategy
which would ensure he didn’t alienate participants but also did not depart
too dramatically from his own masculine biography, values and practices.
This meant, however, that the sexist and/or homophobic speech of research
participants was left unchallenged and also, perhaps unexpectedly, led some
men involved in the research to experience an intimacy with Tristan which
was not reciprocated. Tristan’s honest rendering of the challenges of his
ethnographic work demonstrates that there is nothing straightforward or
uncomplicated about negotiating the field as a male studying men and
masculinities.
Michael Flood, drawing largely on a study of heterosexual men’s social
and sexual relations with women, also places positionality, and, by impli-
cation, power at the centre of his discussion in Chapter 5. In particular, he
grapples with the challenging issue of how to undertake research with men
who express sexist and derogatory views, and he considers the possibilities
and limitations of adopting an interventionist/non-interventionist stance
as a means of interrupting rather than reproducing patriarchal relations.
His reflections reveal that all research decisions are vexed. There is no pure
or objective position wherein we are outside of ethics or power relations.
In light of this conclusion, Michael notes that far more critical reflection
Barbara Pini and Bob Pease 15
studying elites always involves a power imbalance, and instead illustrates the
shifting and situated nature of power in his own research relationships and
the agency of the interviewer in mediating power dynamics.
While Sebastián’s methodological reflections emerge from his doctoral
study which signals his beginning foray into the study of men and
masculinities, in Chapter 14 Malcolm Cowburn draws on a decade of experi-
ence involved in the field of critical masculinities research. At the same time
he demonstrates that complex ethical issues don’t diminish over time, par-
ticularly if, like Malcolm, one is negotiating the complex terrain of studying
men who commit interpersonal violence against women, children and other
men. The chapter politicizes the language of interview exchanges, the place
of emotion in research, claims to confidentiality and the process of dissem-
inating research findings. A further subject politicized in the chapter, and
one requiring much further attention, is that of how different members of
a research team (such as transcribers and research assistants) studying men
and masculinities are treated, valued and supported.
Vexed methodological questions surrounding research on men who per-
petuate violence against women is further addressed in Chapter 15 by Lucas
Gottzen. Lucas frames his research experience by using Sara Ahmed’s (2000)
deconstruction of the production and embodiment of the stranger. He notes
how the very subject of violence against women is strange to him before
detailing some of his research encounters which demonstrate his negoti-
ations around making the strange familiar and the familiar strange. For
example, he wonders how he can tell the stories of violent men in a manner
which does not render them so strange that other practices and discourses
of patriarchy (including those of male researchers) are obscured. At the same
time, familiarity generates a different set of problems as Lucas describes how
he identified with one participant, Filip, who is from a similar social loca-
tion and who elicits his sympathy in expressing remorse for his violence.
Ultimately, if research with violent men is to meet the ethical and political
imperatives of profeminism it appears that a more deft approach than one
based on simple dichotomies is required.
In Chapter 16 Kip Jones and Lee-Ann Fenge examine the potential of
group experiences for involving older gay men in research. The authors
describe two different projects. The first used participatory action research
to examine the experience of ageing for older lesbian women and gay
men, while the second focused on how ‘coming out’ narratives are used to
negotiate identity over the life course. In both of the studies the opportu-
nity to meet, share, reflect and work together as a group generated a high
level of engagement among participants – thus demonstrating the impor-
tance of more innovative and creative methodological approaches to further
knowledge of men and masculinities.
The need to expand our repertoire as researchers of men and masculinities
is a theme taken up by Miranda Leontowitsch in Chapter 17 as she recounts
using information and communication technologies (ICTs) to interview
Barbara Pini and Bob Pease 19
older men. Miranda compares the strengths and limitations of using Instant
Messaging compared with email to interview the male participants of her
study, highlighting issues of power, hierarchy and control in the research
relationship. As the author acknowledges, the use of ICTs for research on
masculinities is still in its infancy, but she offers preliminary insights into
the dynamics of the online interview as an intersubjective experience, while
pondering the potential of ICTS for research with hard-to-reach populations
of men.
Like Miranda, Cliona Barnes in Chapter 18 introduces us to a newer
methodological approach in the study of men and masculinities, that of
participatory visual research methods. While the method is original, Cliona
faces familiar challenges in terms of positionality as a female researcher
working with young school-aged males. At the same time, she is positive
about the approach as a means to give voice to young men’s own experi-
ences and interpretations of their lives. This occurs as the young men are
given cameras to photograph what they consider representative of contem-
porary youth masculinity and then invited to explain their selections as part
of broader focus group discussions. The research counters orthodoxies which
suggest that young men are inarticulate and/or unwilling to be self-reflexive
about their lives, and instead indicates that involving boys and men in crit-
ical research on masculinity may require us to be more inventive in our use
of methods.
As is always the case with an edited volume – especially on a subject that
has been so little addressed – we recognize there is much that is not addressed
in this volume. Our hope therefore is that this book will become a small
part of what will be a much larger, vibrant and ongoing conversation about
undertaking critical masculinity research.
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Introduction
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Epistemologies
There are various approaches to epistemology, both generally and in regards
to studying men – rationalist, empiricist, critical, standpoint, postmodernist
and so on. Epistemology is the study of theories of knowledge or ways of
knowing, particularly in the context of the limits or validity of the vari-
ous ways of knowing. It is that branch of philosophy that concerns the
study of the origins, preconditions, nature or forms and limits of knowl-
edge. Though it is difficult to be certain which form of epistemology is or
will be the most productive, it is equally difficult to see how one can analyse
without a framework in the first place.
Rationalists believe that there are innate ideas that are not found in expe-
rience: ideas exist independently of experience, and may in some way derive
from the structure of the human mind or exist independently of the mind.
This is exemplified in the ‘deep essence’ and ‘deep masculinity’ proposed
by Robert Bly and the mythopoetics. It is very difficult to prove or disprove
such knowledge. In this view, men, or women, may know what men are like,
even if evidence appears otherwise.
On the other hand, empiricists deny that there are concepts that exist
prior to experience. For them, all knowledge is a product of human learning,
based on human perception. In this approach, men need to be studied by
sense perceptions, whether directly through one’s own perception as evi-
dence or through more systematic study of the perceptions of others, as
indicative of evidence of the way men are. This perspective can be seen as
the basis of much mainstream social science on men, including that which
is often labelled ‘men’s studies’. The focus on perception, however, brings its
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that exist around the relation of men and social theory? These might be con-
sidered to be ‘silences of men’. The problematization and reconstitution of
objectivity and subjectivities through situated knowledges may offer some
provisional answers. In short, social theory implies and implicates political
practice.
Ontologies
In addition to epistemological considerations in the study of men and
masculinities, there are also questions of ontology, including the gendered
nature of the researcher, social reality and their interrelations. In its simplest
form, it could be suggested that it may not matter who is doing the study of
men – a woman or a man, a feminist or an anti-feminist. Though perhaps
the supposed arbitrariness of the nature of the researcher becomes less con-
vincing if we imagine, say, an ardently and consistently anti-feminist man
researcher, a queer feminist historian with a qualified standpoint approach
and sympathies with non-anti-foundational postmodernism, or a transgen-
der sports sociologist gathering information on men at a professional ice
hockey match. This might, we could suppose, have implications for what
is seen, the data gathered, the mode of analysis, interpretation and so on.
So the empirical is not so transparent after all. Non-transparency is clear
from, for example, gay re-readings of film and other media productions. This
is not to say that gay men always read films in certain ‘gay ways’; rather,
there are probabilities or tendencies for certain gay men to read film in ways
that most straight men might not see.
Thus what may at first appear obvious and open to the proceduralized
gathering of empirical data is not so simple. One might argue that different
knowledges are available to men than to women, feminists, profeminists,
anti-feminists and so on. This is partly a matter of experience, as socially
defined, and partly a matter of politically and socially defined standpoint –
feminist or some form of feminism, such as black feminist, profeminist and
so on. Emphasizing the researcher is not to suggest a deterministic account
of their impact; rather, researchers’ social location is relevant, especially in
researching certain topics, but not all-encompassing.
This ontological argument might be especially important in researching
certain topics and social sites. It is important to note that the relevance and
impact of the social position of the knower is likely to vary considerably with
different kinds of research situations, sites, materials and questions. As dis-
cussed in the next section, the ‘topic’ of ‘men’ is not unified. It ranges from
broad theoretical analyses to specific social situations, which might be, say,
individual, or ‘men-only’ (such as a Finnish men’s sauna), or mixed gender
and so on. Studying men cannot be left only to men, or to non-feminists.
Men’s knowledge of men is at best limited and partial, at worst violently
patriarchal. Subject positions are intersectionally different for women and
men: women are researching/writing in relation to another object, ‘men’;
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men are in relation to a similar object, a category of which they are part.
Women’s studies of men can name men as men, study men as other than
women and ‘know’ men through their effects upon women (Willott, 1998;
Campbell, 2003). This links to increasing awareness of the embodied nature
of knowledge, in relation to researcher and researched. This is not to sug-
gest determinism, less still biologism, but rather that knowledge, including
that on men, is partly embodied. Indeed, researching men does not mean
or suggest any stress on men rather than women. Rather, making the social
gendered category of men explicit is a necessary consequence of making
women powerful in the social sciences. Men are just as gendered as women,
within gender relations.
This leads onto the very question of what is ‘meant’ by ‘men’. This again
may not be such an obvious matter. The topic of men is not unified, ranging
from broad theoretical analyses to specific social situations, which might
be individual or men-only or mixed gender. For myself, in saying ‘men’,
I am referring to several forms: the category of ‘men’ as a generalized or
abstract social categorization; men as collectivities; and men as individuals
and groups of individuals. A wide variety of texts show the limitations of
a view of gender as overly dichotomized or in a fixed relation to sex. They
include historical and cross-societal analyses of multiple gender ideologies
and third sex/third gender; approaches derived from historical dialectical
processes of the transformation of men as a gender class (Hearn, 2004); and
gender queer and gender pluralism. One way to address this is through the
notion of gex, as a shorthand for gender/sex (Hearn, 2012). This takes seri-
ously the complex intersections of gender, sex and sexuality, rather than
assuming that gender is a cultural construction of pre-existing sex, in this
context the male sex.
Conclusion
Finally, we may ask where CSMM are heading. I will just mention five major
issues that need attention in the future.
First, critical studies on men need to be carefully monitored – to avoid
creating a new power base for men, and a new way of ignoring or forget-
ting women, feminist work and gendered power relations between men and
women. This is important in terms of both critical analysis of men’s relations
with women, and recognition of women’s scholarship on men.
Second, the focus on men needs to be asserted – to name men as men –
while simultaneously the category of men is deconstructed, interrogated as
historical, material, relational, culturally specific and ideological. The cate-
gory of men is both fundamental to the understanding of gendered power
relations, and liable to deconstruction and abolition.
Third, it is necessary to ask to what extent does dominant ‘scientific’
knowledge rely on a particular form of academic men’s subjectivity? To what
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Introduction
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40 Epistemology, Methodology and Accountability
critical self-reflection for the participants (Klein, 1983; Mies, 1983; Stanley
and Wise, 1983).
In light of these feminist concerns, I became particularly interested in the
use of participatory research methodologies. Thus, in relation to the research
above, I undertook a collaborative inquiry with male and female social
work practitioners who were attempting to formulate radical approaches
to their practice (Pease, 1987, 1990). My specific interest was in how rad-
ical social workers related critical theories (including feminism) to their
practice.
From the beginning of the research process, I believed that there was an
important relationship between the purpose of research and the method
of study. I was aware of studies that had liberating objectives, but used
questionable research strategies to pursue them. My concern about research
methodology was that it should constitute an emancipatory political prac-
tice. I wanted to contribute to an educational process for the practitioners,
and I wanted to assist the practitioners who participated in the study to
grapple more effectively with the tensions and conflicts in their work.
I used participatory research methodologies further in my research with
profeminist men (Pease, 1996, 2000). I invited men who were support-
ive of feminism to participate in a collaborative inquiry group to examine
their experiences and dilemmas of trying to live out their profeminist com-
mitment. The aim was to explore the extent to which it was possible for
men to reposition themselves in patriarchal discourses and to reformulate
their interests in challenging gender domination. To link the process of per-
sonal transformation to the collective politics of change in gender relations,
I explored these experiences and dilemmas through three participatory
methodologies: anti-sexist consciousness raising, memory work and dia-
logues with allies and opponents of profeminism.
Consciousness raising enabled the men to explore issues in relation to
their own lives and to link these issues to the wider social and political con-
text. Through our discussions, we strengthened our discursive framework
as an alternative subject position. Memory work provided an opportunity
to reframe some of the content of our memories to facilitate a process of
challenging dominant gender relations. By asking men to reflect on their
understandings of the ways in which they accommodated to or resisted the
dominant constructions of masculinity, we were able to understand the ways
in which new subject positions could be created. Dialogue with allies and
opponents of profeminism contributed to the development of new spaces for
the collective positioning of profeminist men’s work in the ongoing public
debates about masculinity politics.
Although I made no claims that my research methodology in either
project was feminist, I was inspired by feminist principles in construct-
ing my methodology. Wadsworth and Hargreaves (1993) suggested that the
methodological approaches of feminism would be relevant to men who
42 Epistemology, Methodology and Accountability
affirmative stance may marginalize gay men’s voices. Due to the lack of trust
and power inequality, these dialogues were difficult to conduct at times, but
charting our way through them left me with some hope for the future of
such conversations when researching straight men.
patriarchy are still relevant for male researchers who want to take gender
seriously. I certainly found them useful when reflecting upon my own
subjectivity in previous research projects.
Being: Is E sexist? Racist? Classist? Ageist?
Does E conduct a great deal of his life in terms of domination and submis-
sion? Competition and acclaim? Struggle for recognition?
Is E aware of patriarchal patterns which surround him?
Thinking: Does E take patriarchy for granted?
Does E draw attention to patriarchal patterns when he discovers them?
Project: Does the set-up take patriarchy for granted?
Does the research design reinforce patterns of domination in any way?
Encounter: Are control patterns actively being broken down?
Is the assumption being made that everyone is heterosexual?
Making Sense: Does the analysis make sexist, racist, classist or ageist
assumptions?
Does the process involve contemplation as well as analysis?
Is there emotional support for E during the process?
Communication: If information is passed on, is it done in such a way as not
to put down those who receive it?
Is the information elaborated into curlicues of abstraction?
Critical autobiography (Jackson, 1990) and autoethnography (Philaretou
and Allen, 2006) provide methodologies for male researchers to interro-
gate their own experience. In my recent book on undoing privilege, I write
about the processes by which I have come to understand my own privi-
lege as a straight white male academic from a working-class background
(Pease, 2010a). Although the book is not a memoir, it has elements of mem-
oir woven into the exploration of privilege. I have tried to illustrate the
exploration of privilege with my own experience.
Conclusion
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54 Issues of Intimacy, Masculinity and Ethnography
Previous research suggests that when men study men – particularly research
on men’s relationship with gender inequality – men become conscious of
a ‘masculine self’1 that might be inadvertently threatened in the process
of the research (Messerschmidt, 1999; Schwalbe and Wolkomir, 2001). The
interview itself, for instance, can be interpreted as a threat (Weiss, 1994;
Luker, 2008) to the masculine self, exposing its weaknesses or, ultimately, its
inauthenticity (Sattel, 1976; Schwalbe and Wolkomir, 2001). Messerschmidt
(2000, p. 15) refers to this as a ‘masculinity challenge’ – ‘contextual interac-
tions that [result] in masculine degradation’. While men’s feelings of being
challenged and the behaviour that results are interesting data – as Schwalbe
and Wolkomir (2001) suggest – it is also data that results from men feeling
challenged to participate rather than invited. Scholars interested in learning
more about what men think and feel might find the task out of reach if men
cannot overcome this barrier to communication. It is for this reason that
Schwalbe and Wolkomir (2001) understand masculinity as both a problem
and a resource in research on men.
These issues become particularly pronounced in research with men who
subscribe to configurations of masculinity that prize stoicism and inexpres-
siveness. Jack Sattel (1976), in his classic article on ‘the inexpressive male’,
argued that men’s emotional reticence is a control strategy aimed at main-
taining and negotiating an advantage in interpersonal interactions. In effect,
Sattel was arguing that being inexpressive is one way that men ‘do’ masculin-
ity. But Sattel also understood that inexpressiveness is, for many men, a
situational phenomenon. Most men are not inexpressive with everyone,
everywhere. Rather, they pick and choose with whom to be expressive,
when, what kinds of places and so on. Relying on what I refer to as the
‘least-masculine role’ can be a helpful method of becoming someone with
whom otherwise inexpressive men are more likely to share.
I take the title of this research role from Mandell’s (1988) methodological
innovation for studying children: occupying what she refers to as the ‘least-
adult role’. When studying children, Mandell argues that diminishing social
distance is important, and other scholars have utilized this role in study-
ing children and young people more generally (Thorne, 1993; Pascoe, 2007;
Pugh, 2009). The least-masculine role is a bit different. For instance, while
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One of the first things that struck me about the men in the profeminist group
I studied – Guys for Gender Justice – was the level of comfort they had in dis-
cussing their feelings, their love lives, their struggles, failures, and more, with
other men. In this way, my interactions with them (formal and informal
interviews, participant observation at their homes, workplaces and more)
were not a great deal different from the interactions they seemed to have
with each other. With few exceptions, the things that they shared with me
privately were things they also shared with other men. This was much less
the case for the other two groups I studied.
Dave – one of three group organizers for the fathers’ rights group (Men Can
Parent Too) – was comfortable talking with me about emotionally difficult
issues. This level of comfort was rare among men in this group. Dave actually
warned me before I met the entire group for the first time that I should not
expect the other men to be so easy to talk to. Dave was right. The first two
months of my research with Men Can Parent Too were extremely difficult
and slow going, with one exception: Luke (about whom I will discuss more
below). Part of the process of studying a group of men such as Men Can
Parent Too was just being present – hanging out and allowing the men to
come to feel comfortable around me. I never missed group meetings and
I always showed up when anyone wanted to ‘hang out’ or needed to talk.
I behaved similarly with the bar regulars (The Border Boys). And by the end
of the study, I had more than one of my research participants comment on
how close they felt to me.
Keith’s and Travis’ comments (below) are a sample of the kinds of things
some of the men in Men Can Parent Too and The Border Boys shared with me
at the end of my research.
I really did think you were a bit of a puss when I first saw
you . . . I mean . . . I’m not tryin’ to start something . . . I’m just sayin’, you
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come off a little bit like that. [. . .] No, for real though, I did really like
bein’ able to talk and all that . . . I think I got a lot out that really I hold in
mostly. [. . .] You know what I mean . . . I’m just . . . Dudes don’t talk about
that kinda’ stuff . . . So, I mean . . . it’s just . . . So thanks or whatever.
(Keith, Men Can Parent Too)
[After the interview was over and I thanked him for participating:]
No man . . . thank you! It feels great to get to talk to somebody about
that shit. It’s really not the kind of thing I’ll just sit down and talk about
with another guy, you know? [. . .] Like, guys don’t just sit down and say
things like (laughing), ‘Hey man . . . do you think you’re really a man? Seri-
ously, I mean tell me how you feel.’ [. . .] Anyway, thank you for caring
dude . . . Seriously, thank you for caring about me.
(Travis, The Border Boys)
Over the course of my visit, it became clear that Martín had told Maria that
I was a friend of his and had not explained anything about the study. In fact,
I was exactly the kind of man he was trying to befriend by joining Men Can
Parent Too. Though I had listened to him explain his desire to befriend white
men in the group, I had neglected to consider myself as potentially among
the men he wanted to befriend. I was not only a bit uncomfortable being
part of a lie that Martín was telling his wife, but also did not want to destroy
the relationship I had worked so hard to establish with him over the course
of the study. I ended up colluding with Martín during my visit telling myself
that no real harm was being done. That was the last time Martín invited me
over to his home.
Martín’s wife left at the end of my study, and I later found out that he
travelled back a few months after she left to be with her and his daughter.
The phone number I had for him is now disconnected and none of the
members of Men Can Parent Too have any information about what happened.
Martín is an interesting example of a difficult issue in ethnographic stud-
ies. Martín was desperate to find new friends with his level of education and
from the social class he felt most a part of in the United States. As a result
of racial inequality, Martín quickly learned to conflate race and class. He
seemed continually astonished when I asked him if I could hang out with
him outside the group setting for my research. The first time I asked him,
he said, ‘Me? . . . No, go out with these guys’, gesturing around towards the
other men in the group. It was about six months before he finally invited
me out for a night with his friends.
In the end, I believe that he did want to participate, but I realized after-
wards that I had not fully recognized the position of power I was in as a
researcher. Martín was in search of white men to hang out with and here
I was, a white man who wanted to hang out with him – for research. Many
of the men in Men Can Parent Too were in an emotionally fragile state during
my study and it was something to which I devoted a great deal of attention.
While the least-masculine role helped me ensure I did not challenge them in
this state, it also sometimes blurred the lines between researcher and friend
for many of them as they navigated their relationships with their ex-wives
and children. This is not to say that researcher and friend have to be separate
roles, but it is something that we have to consider as we participate in peo-
ple’s lives. Future studies of men in the fathers’ rights movement ought to
continue to pay close attention to the ethical dilemmas inherent in studying
populations eager for someone to listen to their frustrations.
Conclusion
Notes
1. I am using ‘masculine self’ here as Brittan (1989) uses it, meaning a self complete
with the desires and facilities that secure membership among the dominant group
in gender relations.
2. This is an issue with which I also dealt in my study of ‘Walk a Mile in Her Shoes
Marches’ (Bridges, 2010) wherein groups of men walk one mile in high heels to
raise awareness of gender and sexual violence against women. A great deal of
behaviour that was at odds with the stated missions of the marches was present
in the marches themselves and studying this necessitated not challenging it while
it occurred.
3. Misogynistic and sexist comments were common among Men Can Parent Too and
The Border Boys, and negotiating reactions to them was a constant source of anxiety
for me as a researcher.
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5
Negotiating Gender in Men’s
Research among Men
Michael Flood
Introduction
What happens when men are the subjects of research? Gender and other
forms of social difference are performed and negotiated in part through face-
to-face interactions, including through such research methods as interviews
and focus groups. When men or women conduct gender-conscious research
with male research subjects, a host of issues are raised: practical, political
and epistemological. This chapter explores three dimensions of face-to-face
research among men. It draws on the male author’s qualitative research
among young heterosexual men regarding their sexual and social relations
with women, as well as others’ gender-sensitive research among men in a
variety of settings and populations. First, what do men say in interviews
and focus groups, and how is this shaped by their interactions and rela-
tions with the researcher and with each other? Second, how do researchers
and research participants negotiate men’s power and privilege in face-to-
face research with men? Third, how do researchers and research participants
negotiate power relations among men themselves?
There are at least five dimensions to the relationships between men and
feminist scholarship: men as the political problem to which feminism
responds; men as objects of feminist scholarship; men as students of fem-
inist scholarship; men as agents of feminist scholarship; and men’s and
women’s institutional locations in producing scholarship about men. While
I have addressed some of these issues elsewhere (Flood, 2011), here I focus
particularly on the second and fourth of these: on the conduct of gender-
related research among men, and particularly by men. Conducting empirical
research on men and men’s place in gender relations raises dilemmas that are
methodological, political and epistemological.
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speaking to women (Broom et al., 2009, p. 54). These results fit with gen-
eral patterns of emotional disclosure among men: men are said to be more
likely to confide in women, especially those with whom they are sexually
involved, while emotional intimacy among men is proscribed. Thus female
interviewers may have an advantage over male interviewers, and may be
less subject to the frequently punitive, disinterested and jokey character of
male–male talk (McKee and O’Brien, 1983, p. 153).
These portrayals in the literature seemed to place me at a disadvantage as
a male interviewer interviewing men, and when I started my PhD research
I feared that in the interviews with young heterosexual men I would face
stony silences and discomfort. While I had plenty of experience of intimate
and revealing personal conversations about emotional and sexual matters
with close male friends, I feared that this would not be possible in interviews
with total strangers. I felt nonetheless that there were significant political
and theoretical reasons why male researchers should conduct research on
men, and the disadvantages of doing so simply came with the territory.
My experience of qualitative research with men has not borne out this
depiction of male non-disclosure. In the PhD research, for example, all but
one of the 17 research participants offered high levels of personal disclosure;
none showed obvious signs of discomfort such as not answering questions
or resisting conversation; and all said that they had not found anything
difficult about participating. There were many moments of humour and
reflection. The one man who disclosed little was Dave, a man recruited from
the Westside Youth Centre (names and other details have been changed to
protect participants’ confidentiality). The interview with Dave was the most
difficult to conduct, in that he often gave monosyllabic answers to my ques-
tions, he paused repeatedly, and he offered sparse and halting narratives
of self, experience and meaning. Dave continued such patterns in a sec-
ond interview 12 months later, while reassuring me on both occasions that
he was comfortable with the interview process. However, Dave’s example is
unlikely to be evidence of masculine inexpressiveness, given the factors that
perhaps limit his ability and willingness to give detailed accounts of his life:
reported ‘learning difficulties’, sexual assault victimization, and intrusive
experience as a long-term ‘client’ of youth services and the welfare sector.
The patterns of male non-disclosure described in the early literature are
likely to be the product of more than the interviewees’ sex, reflecting more
complex interview dynamics and the operation not of ‘masculinity’ per se
but of particular masculinities structured by other social relations, and of
masculinities in interaction, namely between interviewer and interviewee.
For example, the willingness of particular men to talk about emotional
and sexual matters in an interview may be constituted by their age, class
or ethnicity. My young informants’ relative comfort with disclosure may
reflect generational differences among men, and it may also be shaped by
their largely middle-class, tertiary-educated and Anglo backgrounds. It may
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also reflect the particular character of the interaction between myself and
the interviewees – the ways in which we were able to slide into familiar,
masculine modes of relating that facilitate personal disclosure, through our
respective subject positions (including our similar ages) and conversational
negotiations.
These possibilities raise a more substantial issue, to do with the premise on
which concerns about men’s ‘greater’ or ‘lesser’ disclosure are based. Talk of
‘lesser’ or ‘greater’ disclosure can imply a realist epistemology, which is also
evident in the notion of ‘matching’ interviewer and interviewee. Matching
research participants in terms of their positions in class, racial and gender
relations is often advocated in methodological ‘cookbooks’ as a way of min-
imizing power inequalities and increasing empathy and rapport. However, if
one assumes that accounts given in interviews are negotiated constructions
rather than repositories of a unitary truth and that knowledges are situated,
it becomes more important to analyse accounts within the context of the
interview itself (Phoenix, 1994, p. 66).
In my research with young heterosexual men, one of the most striking pat-
terns has been the presence of homosocial storytelling. Heterosexual men
talk about sex in different ways in different social contexts and different
conversational interactions, and this is part of general variations in their
presentation of self (Wight, 1996, p. 2; Hillier et al., 1999, p. 73). Research
has documented that young heterosexual men often talk about sex and inti-
macy in differing ways in mixed-sex groups, compared to all-male groups,
compared to one on one with a female friend, compared to one on one
with a male friend. For example, some of my interviewees described the
exchange of stories of sexual exploits and commentary on the attractive-
ness and desirability or otherwise of women passing by, typically using blunt
and sometimes humorous colloquial language, and this form of talk was
most common in all-male groups. With their female partners on the other
hand, men may engage not only in talk that is more respectful, romantic and
sensual, but also in sexually explicit talk such as ‘talking dirty’ during sex.
In different interactions and contexts, there is variation in the explicitness of
men’s sexual talk, their use of romance- and intimacy-focused discourses, the
extent of their emotional expressiveness, the degree to which their accounts
are accepting of and respectful towards women or hostile and sexist and
so on. While I focus here on the issue of male disclosure, in the following
section I address the ethics and politics of hearing men’s sexist and hostile
stories.
Among heterosexual men, cultures of sexual storytelling develop partic-
ularly in deeply homosocial and masculine contexts, such as male prisons,
all-male workplaces and military institutions (Flood, 2008). In my PhD inter-
views, two of the men from a military university offered highly rehearsed
sexual stories that they have also told in the homosocial culture of sex-
ual storytelling on the military campus. These were detailed stories about
sexual episodes, whether involving one’s good fortune, sex with prized or
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‘shocking’ women, or one’s depravity and ill fortune. In the interviews, while
the young men involved in this storytelling culture described their participa-
tion in such styles of talk, they also offered these stories directly. In fact, the
two young military men told virtually identical stories in separate interviews
about particular sexual episodes in which they had both been involved.
In such instances, male participants’ accounts in interviews are likely to
be shaped by the sex of the interviewer, with men feeling more able to
offer to a male interviewer the stories that they also offer to male audiences
elsewhere. In my research, I have no way of comparing the interviewees’
responses to those given to a female interviewer. However, other studies sug-
gest that there are systematic contrasts in men’s presentations of gender
to male and female researchers. In qualitative research at a US univer-
sity, Sallee and Harris (2011) found, for example, that men interviewed
by a male researcher were more likely than those interviewed by a female
researcher to support and to demonstrate sexually objectifying behaviours.
They described their focus on women’s physical and sexual attributes and
gave detailed accounts of their involvements in sexually objectifying inter-
actions, using graphic descriptions of female bodies and body parts. On the
other hand, men interviewed by the female researcher used more clinical
and academic language, gave greater acknowledgement of how men’s talk
about sex can objectify women and contribute to gender inequality, and
emphasized their own discomfort with or resistance to their peers’ sexist
and objectifying talk.
The accounts given by men in interviews and focus groups are inher-
ently partial, and incomplete (Frankenberg, 1993, p. 41). Interview data is
never ‘raw’ and always both situated and textual (Silverman, 1993, p. 200).
People’s accounts of their lives are contextual, interactional and dynamic –
they change in different settings and to different audiences and over time.
At the same time, people also come to tell stories about themselves, which
are repeated and even ritualized: ‘I’ve always been the kind of man who . . . ’,
‘I fell in love with her when . . . ’. They do so in part because they have been
constituted as particular kinds of subjects, through discourse and their lived
experience of the social order.
Given patterns of homosocial talk, one strategy in men’s research with
men is to actively use patterns of male–male talk to advantage, adopting
them to encourage disclosure. If male interviewers are more likely to be sub-
ject to jokey male talk, as McKee and O’Brien (1983) argue, this talk is an
empirical resource in interviewing rather than simply a hindrance. In my
interviews, forms of male homosocial talk such as the telling of sexual sto-
ries and jokey banter have been an important source for insights into men’s
understandings of sexual relations, and I give space to them and ‘play along’
with them when they occur. In other words, I draw on my own familiar-
ity with and embeddedness in masculinity and borrow from the norms of
culturally approved male-to-male relationships (McKegany and Bloor, 1991,
pp. 199–200). However, in recent interviews I did not explicitly invite a
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face to pass, conceal our true intentions and suppress our emotional and
political reactions to what is said or done. I agree with Schacht that this is
emotionally taxing work, and it can feel like a betrayal of one’s values and
a potential betrayal of the research subject (Schacht, 1997). Such research
not only involves positioning oneself in a contradictory social location that
includes inherent tensions, but also involves a critical and useful vantage
point. Schacht describes his pragmatic adoption of a kind of emotional
detachment in order to establish relations and to survive his feelings of self-
estrangement, which is familiar to me as well. Profeminist men’s ability to
conduct research in masculine settings is facilitated by our own training in
dominant codes of masculine performance.
In line with another norm in much of the literature on feminism and
methodology, I believe that one’s research should ‘make a difference’ – it
should increase the possibilities for progressive social change. But is the
research situation itself to be the site in which change is made? Authors such
as Kelly et al. (1994, pp. 36–39) say ‘yes’, arguing for the use of ‘challeng-
ing methods’ that question oppressive attitudes and behaviours. I agree with
Glucksmann (1994, p. 151) that research has important limitations as a locus
of political activity. Furthermore, ‘challenging methods’ may undermine the
rapport, which is a precondition for interviewees’ disclosure. On the other
hand, however, even just asking men to reflect on their own involvements
in oppressive practices, such as rape, can prompt personal change (Sikweyiya
et al., 2007, p. 56).
We must address the wider contexts – the gender regimes and relations –
which structure men’s participation and performance as research subjects.
As Pini (2005, p. 204) emphasizes, we must go further and ask, ‘Who is ask-
ing whom about what and where?’ The research context includes both the
immediate interview environment and the wider institutional and cultural
context (Broom et al., 2009).
Fourth, gendered dynamics intersect with those associated with other
forms of social difference including age, sexuality, class and personal biog-
raphy. While this chapter focuses on the workings of gender in men’s social
research with men, other axes of social difference are also in operation
in the research context. A full account of gender’s mediation of the pro-
duction and analysis of qualitative data must include these (Broom et al.,
2009).
Conclusion
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Making Connections: Speed Dating,
Masculinity and Interviewing
Máirtín Mac an Ghaill, Chris Haywood and Zoë Bright
Introduction
The rapid rise in the number of studies on men and masculinities has led
to an increasing visibility of the role of masculinity within the research pro-
cess. Feminist research approaches have provided crucial insights into how
gender informs the research process, including epistemological approaches,
data collection strategies and analysis (see Jaggar, 2008; Hesse-Biber, 2011).
Questions of whether the sex of the interviewer, the clothes of the inter-
viewer, what questions are asked and how to improve trust, as well as
the validity and reliability of results, have provided invaluable insight into
the different ways that gender operates within the research context. This
chapter contributes to this discussion by highlighting the importance of
critically reflecting on the ways theories of masculinities will shape how
interviews are ‘read’. As such, theories of masculinity do not stand out-
side of knowledge production; rather, they actively inflect what knowledge
is seen to be produced. As Robb (2004, p. 396) argues, in his study of
fatherhood and masculinity, ‘reflecting critically on the experience of inter-
viewing men about fatherhood prompted questions about the influences
involved in the negotiation of masculine identities in the research pro-
cess.’ It is suggested that how we theorize masculinity will shape how the
relationship between the researcher and the participants is interpreted. Fur-
thermore, by suggesting that there are different ways of conceptualizing
male subjectivities, we locate Hebert’s (2007, p. 33) assertion that ‘the femi-
nist preoccupation with problematizing the essentialization of “women” has
not been met by a corresponding problematization of the essentialization
of “men” ’ as central to the discussion of men, masculinity and research
practice.
The study of masculinity contains a vast array of theoretical frameworks,
such as biological approaches, role theory, relational theories, post-structural
and queer theories (see Pease, 2000; Khan, 2009). One of the main
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78 Making Connections
Drawing upon the work of Susan Bordo (1994), Moller argues that research
on masculinity should focus on men’s weakness, vulnerability and disem-
powerment. The emphasis in Moller’s research is on challenging models
of masculinity that are read through domination and subordination. The
implication is that the dynamics through which masculinities are made
may use a different set of values, or as Parlow (2011, p. 214) suggests,
when interviewing men in clinical settings: ‘The new phallic touchstone for
them was not a meeting of machismo standards but a finding of authentic
expression for their personal take on things.’ It could be argued that in the
context of the emergence of self-reflexive subjects in the conditions of late
modernity, masculinities are characterized by feelings of ambivalence and
anxiety. Importantly, as Noble (2006, pp. 32–33) suggests:
effortless partner finding strategy, speed dating can be seen as involving too
much effort. This dovetails with the notion that being single may also be
seen as socially failing (Byrne and Carr, 2005). When initially trying to
talk to men about their speed-dating experiences, there was little response
to an advertisement placed by one of the male researchers. Given that
masculinities are often premised on competence and control, an agreement
to an interview could have been seen as part of affirming a failed masculin-
ity. In previous work, we have identified how a male researcher had difficulty
recruiting men because his desire to talk to men was read as a desire for
men (Haywood and Mac an Ghaill, 1997). As Oliffe and Mróz (2005, p. 257)
acknowledge, ‘Men don’t volunteer – they are recruited.’ When the research
team decided to change the recruiter from a male to a female, there was a
rapid rise in responses. Not only did the change in gender of the recruiter
interest men who had experience of speed dating, but also men made con-
tact and sent photos of their genitals, issued invitations to meet, asked for
a relationship or simply requested sexual encounters. More significantly, it
became evident quite quickly that the research relationships that were being
developed using the dating site closely resembled the format of a romantic
relationship.
As we continued the research project, we found that men were using
the protocols of the dating scene and building them into the interview
context. As a consequence, the interview became a space of transference
where men’s interpretations of dating protocols became a tool to negoti-
ate the social interaction. When identifying how masculinity is embedded
in research relationships, it is important to take into account that research
relationships are a relatively new genre of social interaction. As Gubrium
and Holstein (2003) remind us, the interview is a relatively modern phe-
nomenon. They argue that although question and answer scenarios have
previously existed (police, family, courts, employment), the notion of giving
information to strangers is quite new. Although they argue that individuals
have developed ‘modern tempers’ (Gubrium and Holstein, 2003, p. 22), it
is important to recognize that it is not always self-evident what the roles of
interviewer and interviewee mean. We have found that when undertaking
research with men and women, the dating protocols enabled men to talk
about their thoughts, feelings and practices. In other words, displays of het-
erosexual masculinity facilitated the navigation by the participants of the
interview encounter.
In our speed-dating research, masculine identities and subjectivities that
were configured through the context of dating and romance became inserted
into the interview encounter. Thus men who took up more predatory hetero-
sexual masculinities that are premised on assumptions about active sexual
desires and sexual readiness (Holland, et al., 1994; Allen, 2007) tended to
work through the research encounter articulating this position. One pat-
tern that emerged was that online interviews were more likely to produce
82 Making Connections
Zoe: Is there anything else that you would like to tell me? Anything you
think I’ve missed out?
Ryan1 : No hun so how about us meeting then or do u know anyone that
wud like to meet me tomorrw in twon2
Zoe: Well as I said I’m already in a relationship so I can’t meet you, but
I really do appreciate your help with my research.
Ryan: Thank u hun we kud meet just don’t say owt to yor partner.
However, there was also evidence of this within the face-to-face interviews:
relationship. As Kaomea (2003, p. 20) points out, ‘In metonymy, the literal
term for one thing is applied to another with which it is closely associated
because of contiguity in common experience’. Importantly, it is this contigu-
ity, the securing of desire between the interviewer and the participant, that
can be seen coming into play as part of an interview situation.
Tom: Let’s say it was you and me, let’s say we’ve been chatting, and this
was our first date, you’re a good looking lass ok? And if we were in that
situation I’d say ‘oh yeah I would like to see you again’ ok? Well you’re
looking at me and you’re gonna go ‘you’re winding me up’, most fellas
look alike, he’s quite humorous I’ll give him a second chance but if you
don’t want to do that then it’s going nowhere, there’s nothing I can do
if you don’t like me, it’s not going any further. Ermm let’s say that . . . let’s
turn it around and say that if you were absolutely fantastic and I wasn’t
really that interested in you, you would say ‘well I really like you I live up
the road, would you like to come back with me?’ I would say yes, as far as
I’m concerned the woman is in control.
Zoe: So what kind of person, type of person were you trying to meet? Did
you have an idea?
Dan: The type of person I would try to meet is already with another guy
and I’m sitting looking at her.
Zoe: Well thank you very much.
Dan: I’m teasing! Somebody very similar to yourself in the looks and the
other . . . them bits [INDICATES TO MY CHEST] We’ll not talk about that
but that would be the type of thing I’d go for, I wouldn’t go for a
bigger lady.
86 Making Connections
Later in the interview, the participant was speaking about the importance of
‘being yourself’ when meeting someone for a date:
Dan: . . . why not just concentrate on being who you are first and not
being who you need to be or this whole thing or the extra push-
em-up, it’s something I don’t . . . I don’t know about them [INDICATES
TO MY CHEST] I’m presuming they naturelle – I just don’t like all that,
it doesn’t do a thing for me, not a thing some blokes are like WOARRRR,
but they may as well buy me them, I’ll go for four grand and then look
at mine, I don’t get it, it’s false, it’s not real, it’s not right and in a certain
way, I hate to say it but that speed dating thing is kind of the same, it’s
false, I wouldn’t say it’s not right but it’s not real.
Within this text, evidence can be found of how the participant is involved
in a process of self-referencing his masculine identity. This self-referencing is
an attempt to appeal to a ‘truth’ of desire that is not situated within a mascu-
line identity and does not consolidate itself through a heterosexuality that
appears as predatory in nature. At one moment, there is the objectification –
for example, the ‘au naturelle’ (referring to the lack of body modification) –
whilst at the same time, there is a disdain for men whose desire is bodily
focused. As Duncan and Dowsett (2010, p. 48) suggest, ‘Contemporary rela-
tionships, then, appear to offer heterosexual men opportunities to express
more “authentic” selves, i.e. a masculine self coherent with notions of equal-
ity and individualism implicit in late modern selfhood’ (Terry and Braun,
2009). Dan’s objectification of the body is done in a way to differentiate him-
self from men who objectify women, albeit through objectifying practices of
his own. Therefore, we would argue that how men use objectifying practices
needs further investigation. Rather than being the endpoint in analysis, we
should begin to identify how the participant is using the interviewer’s body
to convey a narrative about their particular masculine subjectivity.
Furthermore, there is an attempt by the participant to describe the
complexity of desire being outside predation and embarrassment. Such self-
consciousness does not necessarily reduce the effects of male power, but it
does reveal how such objectification works within the formation of mascu-
line subjectivities. This was further illustrated when Dan discusses a girl with
whom he was meeting and how he sees her:
Conclusion
The analysis of the data generated from the research is in its early stages and
the points raised in this chapter represent a number of tentative themes that
require further exploration. More specifically, we have found that the per-
formances and self-productions of masculine subjectivities are embedded in
the interview encounter. We have also noted the dynamics of the interview
in terms of ‘getting close’, the use of metonymy and processes of objectifica-
tion. In light of these observations, we see methodological discussions as a
space where competing models of masculinity come into play. On one hand,
men’s identities are located within patriarchal privilege. On the other, we
need to consider the possibility that men’s identities could be constituted in
ways that may not be underpinned by such privilege. The fieldwork from this
project requires further analytical engagement to explore how men attempt
to negotiate non-oppressive masculinities, albeit through discriminatory talk
and practice. As stated earlier, we argue that the social and cultural recon-
figuration of normalized masculinity involves a number of (dis)locations in
how masculinity is lived out. We have found that critically reflecting on
methodological processes of working with men and masculinities provides
ways to begin to explore such possible (dis)locations.
88 Making Connections
Notes
1. All participant and organization names are pseudonyms.
2. Participant spelling and pronunciation have not been changed.
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7
Gendered Selves, Gendered Subjects:
Interview Performances and
Situational Contexts in Critical
Interview Studies of Men and
Masculinities
Linn Egeberg Holmgren
Introduction
The overall aim of this chapter is to discuss and deepen methodological and
ethical aspects of gendered interaction in cross-gendered interviews in the
field of masculinity studies. Its point of departure is a study of profeminist
men in Sweden, where the power relations turned out to be of subtle charac-
ter and all but one-way authoritarian (Egeberg Holmgren, 2011b).The aim of
the study was to understand how young adult men1 come to call themselves
feminists2 ; what it meant for them (somehow being ‘the second sex’ of the
feminist movement); how feminism affected their relations at work and at
home; and how feminism was ‘done’ in their everyday lives in a Swedish
society that embraces gender-equality politics.
The study produced some accounts of profeminist practices in everyday
life (Egeberg Holmgren, 2012), but to a large extent the politics of interview-
ing and being interviewed turned out to offer the most interesting aspects
on the subject of men engaged in feminism (Egeberg Holmgren, 2007, 2008,
2011a; Egeberg Holmgren and Hearn, 2009). In this chapter, I argue that the
interview in itself can work as the primary analytical setting and that doing
gender theory can be meritoriously used to explore empirical material from
fieldwork. Before illustrating this in some empirical scenes, I will further dis-
cuss the theoretical premises that this perspective on method, methodology
and analysis rests on.
One important theoretical and analytical focal point in the study was how
defining oneself as a man and a feminist, or man/feminist, was made com-
prehensible. Comprehensibility, in this case, rests on the assumption that
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men more seldom put interest in feminism and equal opportunities. That is,
they are part of the problem to be solved. This was an assumption shared by
almost all interviewees and a critical subject in feminist literature (Jardine
and Smith, 1989; Digby, 1998; Schacht and Ewing, 1998; Pease, 2000; Ashe,
2004). The co-construction and presentation of a profeminist self meant
handling these potential contradictions.
What are the central issues and outcomes in empirical studies of men and
masculinities focusing on the construction of researcher self and research
subject in fieldwork interaction? The accounts of violence, harassment and
sexism in fieldwork represent the most profound expressions of patriarchy.
This does not mean that patriarchal structures are absent in fieldwork of a
more equal character and where interviews could even be considered a pleas-
ant experience. The empirical accounts of doing masculinity in interviews
that will follow are not to be interpreted as an assessment of the intervie-
wees’ authenticity. Rather, being a good feminist or not being a feminist at
all turned out to be of more interest to interviewees themselves.
Michelle Fine (1994) and Fine and Sirin (2007) have developed a theoret-
ical, conceptual and methodological framework for ‘working the hyphen’
as a means of consciously elaborating relations between researcher and
researched. This framework focuses on the formation and reformation of
interviewees’ ideas about self and others in relation to social and political
contexts, as their bodies are ‘infused with global and local conflict, as they
strive to make meaning, speak back, incorporate and resist the contradictory
messages that swirl through them’ (Fine and Sirin, 2007, pp. 16–17).
Fine and Sirin (2007, p. 22) define the hyphen as a social-psychological
space in which the dynamics of political arrangements and individual
subjectivities come together. This hyphen can be negotiated in different
contexts and, in my work as well as theirs, it is evident that the posi-
tion(s) of research participants informs one another. This hyphen, being
constructed between self and other, can be somewhat mind-bending when
interviewing men in a feminist context, since men occupy a privileged gen-
der position in wider society but in a feminist space are subjected to a type
of othering.
Highlighting the hyphen between self and other, between researcher
and researched, has methodological implications for studies of men and
masculinities. This is where the issue of situated interactive contexts comes
into play. To analyse both what is said (i.e., transcripts) and perhaps what
is more an issue of both what is not said and what is mediated in interac-
tion beyond words, Fine and Sirin (2007) make use of Ruthellen Josselson’s
(2004) hermeneutics of faith and hermeneutics of suspicion. This is a double-
edged approach that enables taking interviewees’ narratives at face value,
re-presenting what is said in their own words (i.e., faith), and taking inter-
pretative authority by theorizing through the words of interviewees (i.e.,
suspicion). Analysing cross-gender interviews by making simultaneous use
of faith and suspicion means revealing the complexities and contradictions
of doing and undoing masculinity in interviews.
When women interview men the gendered relations run the risk of being
reinforced because of the structures of interactive speech in the research
interview. An interviewer is expected to be helpful, caring, understand-
ing, attentive and nice (Winchester, 1996, p. 123; Pini, 2005, p. 202).
In this setting, the researcher’s situated position is also a position of doing
femininity.
Consider this scene: an interviewee is telling the interviewer that one
of his foremost everyday profeminist practices consists of not interrupting
women and consciously choosing not to speak first as a way of, on the one
hand, listening to women, but perhaps even more so as a way of not defin-
ing the world. While telling me stories of this practice, the interviewee is
given and encouraged to take interpretative authority over the interviewer,
just as ‘it should be’. However, the interviewee is constantly interrupting the
interviewer when telling her this story and even more so punctuating her
presentation of self as ‘being a person who talks a lot and thereby risks defin-
ing the world for others’. Issues of talking (even more often of ‘shutting up’)
were among the most common profeminist practices of the interviewees in
this study and, in this case, the doings taking place in the interview context
are just as interesting and contradictory as to what the interviewee is talking
about. The retelling of a profeminist practice is not necessarily a repetition
of that practice. At the same time, an interviewee is expected to talk and to
take interpretative authority. The performance obviously poses something
of an analytical – and ethical – dilemma as where to go and what to do with
scenes of this kind, and the implications of doing and undoing masculin-
ity and profeminism, respectively, are in need of exploration and inquiry,
which is beyond the extent of this chapter.
In the study of profeminist men, the risk of reinforcing gendered struc-
tures of interaction was a looming feature of the interviewer performance.
Perhaps, this was most tangible when questions misfired and made the
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not a common problem in this study, a design that enables reflexivity of that
kind would prevent us from othering each other (foremost the interviewee
in the interview and me in published work such as this text), it would give
us the chance of ‘working the hyphen’.
given a chance to admit that they would not pass this test was actually key
to pass as an authentic profeminist (see also Egeberg Holmgren, 2007).
Being critical, advocated by my audience of researchers (and perhaps read-
ers too) as necessary to prevent non-problematized (re)presentations of a
profeminist self, is simultaneously what enables interviewees to present
themselves as authentic (critical of and criticized for positioning themselves
as ‘feminist’).
The politics and ethics of nice can be considered as a negotiation of power
between interviewer and interviewee, but from a feminist point of view it is
just as problematic with situations where women are told how to behave, to
do the right femininity, so as to enable the performances of men. Issues of
who is othering who are never clear-cut in empirical settings where women
interview men.
Conclusion
discursive), acting space and possibilities to define the situation (to have, be
given or take an interpretative privilege).
However, the issues of hegemonic or complicit masculinity and the power
of men are not as clear-cut as this short definition appears to showcase. This
short definition is more for the sake of simplicity pointing towards what the
researcher can look for in the empirical material drawn from situated interac-
tion. A complexity that emerged from the analysis of interview performances
was that the intentions and the consequences of the ‘undoing practices’ did
not always overlap. That is, gendered power could be simultaneously resisted
and reproduced.
Drawing on Goffman (1990 [1959]), one could say that the co-constructing
impression management in interviews involves negotiating the hyphen
where othering of selves takes place. Instead of othering interviewees by
‘simply’ retelling their stories, in ways Fine (1994) highlights as problem-
atic, situational analysis of interview performances in interactive settings
can tell us something about the hegemonic character of men’s practices.
The researcher is, together with participants, an unintentional and involun-
tary complicit actor, co-constructing the gendered structures of interviewing.
The scenes described in this chapter are hereby collective accomplishments
where gender is done, reproduced, negotiated and hopefully challenged to
be undone.
Notes
1. The men interviewed were 20–34 years of age at the time of the interviews. That
made them born in the 1970s and first half of the 1980s. This is the same period
of time when issues of gender equality were institutionalized in Sweden. It can be
considered a deliberate sampling when it comes to ‘generation’ resting on the pre-
sumption of interviewees being part of (or influenced by) the third-wave feminism
that spread and grew strong in Sweden during the 1990s.
2. In Sweden, there is often no or less apparent contradiction in men using the term
‘feminist’. The term ‘profeminist’ is sometimes even viewed as somewhat aca-
demic, too specific or even unnecessary. It was rare that the men in the study
found it important to refer to themselves as ‘pro’. In this chapter, I use the words
‘profeminist’ and ‘feminist’ interchangeably, although I acknowledge the preva-
lence of different ideological and theoretical perspectives within feminism as to
whether men could or should call themselves feminist.
3. For a review and brilliant discussion of similarities and differences between the
works of Erving Goffman and Judith Butler, see Brickell (2005).
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8
Conversations about Otokorashisa
(Masculinity/‘Manliness’):
Insider/Outsider Dynamics in
Masculinities Research in Japan
Romit Dasgupta
Introduction
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104 Conversations about Otokorashisa
with older women who had been active in the nationalist movement earlier
in the twentieth century, she does not explicitly use the term ‘halfie’ either
to talk about herself in relation to her informants, or her own position of
traversing insider/outsider lines. However, the following reflection on her
position vis-à-vis her informants seems to capture the essential elements of
Abu-Lughod’s term:
collapse in the early 1990s of the ‘bubble economy boom’ of the 1980s,
and the ushering in of a subsequent period of economic slowdown, had
major ramifications for salaryman masculinity. The mid- to late-1990s were
particularly important years, as the shift from an earlier, more economi-
cally stable era to a more globalized and neoliberal context, was particularly
pronounced (see Dasgupta, 2009). Accordingly, my research explored the
ways in which young men entering the workforce – essentially young
‘salarymen’ – negotiated with the hegemonic ideals of masculinity they were
expected to engage with as shakaijin, at a point in history when many of
the assumptions underpinning white-collar salaryman masculinity in Japan
were being (and continue to be) challenged and interrogated.
Research contexts
The fieldwork was carried out over an 18-month period in 1998 and 1999,
in a large prefecture in northern Japan. The focus of the research revolved
around discussions and interviews with young male employees of two dif-
ferent organizations who were in the process of making the transition to the
status of adult employees. At the time I was interacting with them, the young
men had been in the workforce for periods ranging from a few months to a
few years. The two organizations were ‘Northern Energy’, a large-scale cor-
poration in the energy sector, employing several thousand staff in branches
throughout the prefecture, and ‘Northern Print’, a small-to-medium scale
firm (chûshô-kigyô) in the printing industry, based in a medium-sized regional
city, with around 200 employees.1
It was through academic and personal contacts from my previous stays in
that part of Japan, and a series of fortuitous circumstances, that the man-
agement of Northern Energy and Northern Print consented to becoming
involved in the research project. As a first step, in order to strengthen the
rapport with potential informants, I organized a social ‘icebreaker’ session.
This, as it turned out, proved to be immensely valuable. It gave the infor-
mants the opportunity, in a relaxed social setting, to ask me questions about
myself, and get to know me, not just as a researcher from overseas, but also
as someone whose life experiences overlapped and intersected with their
own lives, to an extent they had not anticipated. For instance, the fact that
I was familiar with the habits and customs of that particular part of Japan
(often far more than some of the informants who came from elsewhere in
Japan), or that I had also experienced working in a Japanese organization
in the past, helped lessen the sense of ‘otherness’ towards me. For instance,
I remember being told by one individual at this social gathering that when
he and his fellow informants had first been told that a foreign university
researcher was interested in interviewing them, they had imagined a tall,
bearded, Caucasian ‘professor-type’ who spoke broken Japanese, and would
have trouble communicating with them. Hence when they saw me, and
heard me speak, their initial anxiety was dissipated. Several factors may have
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contributed to this. Physically, I was quite the antithesis of the tall, bearded,
‘professorial’ stereotype – close enough in terms of complexion, natural hair
colour and build, to be able to ‘blend in’ to a degree. Moreover, at the time of
the fieldwork, I was only a couple of years older than most of the informants,
and having worked as a young ‘salaryman’ myself in the past, could relate
to many of their concerns and interests. Furthermore, it was not just fluency
in language that was a factor, but also familiarity with the local specificities
of the language. For instance, I recall an incident at one of the other social
gatherings, when a friend called me on my cell phone, and I unintentionally
slipped into local colloquialisms and dialect. This was overheard by some of
the informants around me, and one of them remarked that this brought
home to him how similar and familiar I was to the rest of them, after all.
I will return to this issue in the next section, when I reflect in more detail
upon the more nuanced aspects of conducting research.
Following on from this ‘groundwork laying’, I was able to move towards
actual interviews. I first organized focus group discussions, which were valu-
able in allowing me an opportunity to observe interaction and exchange
between individuals. These were followed by interviews with individual infor-
mants conducted in two separate blocks over 18 months. Interviewing each
individual on two separate occasions contributed to the research in a num-
ber of ways. First, given the focus on the shift from pre-shakaijin masculinity
to adult salaryman masculinity as an ongoing process that has to be negoti-
ated, returning to the same individual a few months after our first meeting
allowed me to get a sense of this process at work. These shifts and changes
were sometimes quite dramatic. For instance, between our first and second
interviews, one of my ‘key’ informants, Shin’ya Naohiko, went from being
a single, carefree young man with no major ‘adult responsibilities’, living
in a single room in the company dormitory, to a husband and father of a
newborn baby girl, with all the cares and responsibilities that the shift in his
circumstances had brought. This included the realization that with a depen-
dent wife and baby, he could no longer pursue many of the dreams – such
as travelling or returning to study – he had outlined to me in our earlier
interactions. Second, it was not only the transformations in the informants
that were at stake; given the emphasis on my research as an interactive pro-
cess, it also allowed the informants to get a sense of the not insubstantial
shifts and changes that had occurred in me over the months since our previ-
ous meeting. Finally, conducting the interviews in two instalments allowed
both sides to return to themes and issues raised the first time that may have
required further reflection or clarification.2
their moral fibre, and then being praised for seeking to draw attention to
this ‘problem’. The assumption was that I subscribed to the same views, and
that like any good social scientist I was going to study this social malady
and make appropriate recommendations. Where possible, I tried to rectify
this misunderstanding and counter what I regarded as a problematic view
of contemporary youth, but sometimes it was not possible to do so without
risking getting embroiled in pointless arguments. On the other hand, try-
ing to explain my research with reference to masculinity (otokorashisa) left
many people puzzled and unsure about whether there was anything for me
to research.
The other fallout from the insider/outsider role, and from being enmeshed
in webs of relationships, was that the very same familiarity that allowed
me to develop a rapport with informants also prevented me from explor-
ing certain issues at greater depth. In particular, despite the intertwinings
between sexuality and hegemonic masculinity, and despite my original
desire to explore the issue, I was only able to touch upon it in interviews
in a fairly perfunctory manner. The only exception was the interview with
one non-heterosexual informant whom I deliberately sought out to inter-
view, precisely due to the difficulty in broaching the topic with my other
informants. With the latter, on both sides, sexuality seemed like a taboo,
‘no-go’ zone. There seemed to be a mutual assumption of heterosexuality
at work, in our articulated interactions (Lunsing, 2001, pp. 65–66). As far
as the informants were concerned, my very familiarity with their lives, my
embeddedness in local ‘respectable’ networks and my status as a ‘respectable’
researcher seemed to signal that I could not be anything but the same as
themselves (or the appearance of themselves they were maintaining). This
was best evidenced by responses to the questions about marriage. In reply
to my question asking (single informants) if they planned to get married in
the future, and why, the response from many of them was along the lines
that, given that we were all (with myself implicated) ‘average, normal guys’,
it was the natural thing to get married.
On my part, this familiarity and common ground with the informants
prevented me from breaching this appearance of heteronormativity, even
when – as on at least two occasions – possible cracks in this façade presented
themselves, and may have provided rich material to explore, had both sides
not skirted round the issue. Part of this reticence to explore potentially ‘sen-
sitive’ areas (such as the extension of the homosocial into the homoerotic or
homosexual within corporate culture, or issues to do with sexual relations
with female colleagues) may have stemmed, as McKeganey and Bloor (1991)
note, from the researcher’s male gender influencing what can and cannot
be talked about when conducting qualitative research with men. Drawing
upon their own fieldwork experience, they comment that when conduct-
ing research in all-male groups, while ‘some topics are repeatedly covered,
others are . . . taboo’ (McKeganey and Bloor, 1991, p. 200). Moreover, avoid-
ing ‘taboo’ areas, or distancing them from the everyday lived experience of
112 Conversations about Otokorashisa
Conclusion
I have drawn attention to some of the more sensitive and nuanced aspects
of the process of researching masculinities not to spotlight a shortcoming
or lacuna in the research. Rather, many of the issues discussed are possibly
common to the experiences of a far greater number of qualitative researchers
than would appear to be the case from published accounts of fieldwork.
If anything I believe that the self-reflexivity that informed my interactions
with my informants – basically, the need to be aware of the implications of
occupying an insider/outsider role – in the end, brought a richness to the
Romit Dasgupta 113
Notes
1. The names I use for both organizations are pseudonyms.
2. For the advantages of interviewing informants more than once, see McDowell
(2001).
3. There are some exceptions – for instance, as mentioned previously in this chapter,
Esther Newton’s (1993) excellent reflective piece on her not-quite-sexual/not-quite-
platonic relationship with an elderly lesbian informant on Fire Island in New York,
and Kirin Narayan’s (1996) discussion of negotiating similar and different sub-
ject positions and world views with an informant/friend she had known for
many years in her field site in Kangra in northern India (see also Rabinow, 1977;
Crapanzano, 1980; Crick, 1992; Hendry, 1992). Kirsch (2005) provides an engaging
discussion of some of the complexities at stake in negotiating ‘friendship’ in the
field.
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9
Counting Men: Quantitative
Approaches to the Study of Men
and Masculinities
Roger Patulny and Barbara Pini
Introduction
This chapter departs from the others in this book in that it explores some
of the possibilities and pitfalls of quantitative approaches to understanding
men and masculinities, drawing on the experience of a study of social con-
nections and exclusion among Australian men and women. As co-authors,
we (Roger and Barbara) come to the chapter with different backgrounds,
values and subject positions, which we introduce below.
Roger: Men are more commonly represented among those who under-
take quantitative research. However, their object of study is perhaps less
commonly subject to ontological contestation. Objects such as money
(econometrics), population changes (demography) or human behaviour in
experimental laboratory conditions (psychology) usually have agreed value
and form among such researchers, and the quest to establish causality among
these objects supersedes that of exploring or challenging their essential
nature. While there is an extensive quantitative literature, largely from psy-
chology, which examines masculinity as a fixed and measureable male ‘sex
role’ defined by a set of particular attributes and/or dispositions (see Whorley
and Addis, 2006), male quantitative researchers less commonly examine the
more abstract social aspects of masculinity, such as gender differences and
inequities in social connection and exclusion within national populations.
Those men who do undertake such masculinity research tend to do so from
a qualitative background and limit their methods accordingly. In summary,
as a male quantitative social scientist, I take a heterodox approach to mas-
culinity research here by producing quantitative findings on social aspects
of masculinity generalizable to whole populations.
Barbara: I have a background largely in qualitative work, embedded in
feminist theory and practice. As such I am conversant with the method-
ological debates that have circulated in feminist scholarship. When Roger
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presented his work at a seminar, we discussed the fact that the few method-
ological ruminations on men and masculinities research that do exist have
largely focused on qualitative approaches, particularly the interview (see
Chapter 1). In contrast, there is an extensive decades-old feminist literature
on quantitative methodologies. This has sometimes included the outright
rejection of quantitative methods (Stanley and Wise, 1983) along with
efforts to rework quantitative methods as feminist methods (Lawson, 1995).
Importantly, lively and contested debate on the feminist politics of counting
continues today with Hughes and Cohen (2010, p. 189) introducing a special
journal edition of feminism and quantitative methods, arguing that the sub-
ject is an ‘exceptionally timely’ one. They claim that this is the case given the
political imperative to address intersectionality in gender research and the
emergence of new technologies and online data sources. As we continued to
discuss Roger’s work, I suggested that it would be interesting to critique his
approach to the study of men and masculinities in the context of the wider
feminist methodological debates about quantitative methods. It is from this
that the chapter emerged. In order to provide a framework for Roger’s study,
I first provide an overview of the literature on feminism and quantitative
methods charting the main arguments presented for and against numeri-
cal approaches. Following this, Roger overviews his study before turning to
present his findings and reflect on some of the strengths and weaknesses the
quantitative approach he uses has for research on men and masculinities.
Instead, they have sought to equalize the power differential in the research
relationship through reciprocity and reflexive attentiveness to subjectivity
and positionality in all stages of the research process. To this end, they
have suggested that qualitative approaches are more appropriate for feminist
research (Roberts, 1981; Bowles and Duelli-Klein, 1983).
The final area of dispute feminists have had with quantitative approaches
is, Oakley (1998, p. 711) states, ‘the sin of number-crunching’ or ‘p values
and all that’. While the focus on enumeration itself has been critiqued by
some feminists as indicative of a patriarchal desire for control (Millman
and Kanter, 1987), others have been more concerned with how statisti-
cal techniques and formulae, including the construction of variables and
‘representative’ survey populations, have misrepresented and/or obscured
women and their experiences. It is understandably of considerable concern
to the feminist project when ‘that which has no name, that for which we
have no words or concepts, is rendered mute and invisible’ (Du Bois, 1983,
p. 113). Adding to the discussion Farran (1990, p. 101) has contended that
statistics are ‘divorced from the context of their construction and thus lose
meanings they had for the people involved’ while Galasinski and Kozlowska
(2009, p. 280) have documented the disempowering effects for participants
when their ‘inability to fit their experiences into a questionnaire’ results in
frustration and distress.
Alongside the feminist methodological literature critiquing the ‘three Ps’
(Oakley, 1998) of quantitative research has emerged a more nuanced contri-
bution to the debate, which has destabilized any dichotomous construction
of qualitative and quantitative as, for example, feminist/non-feminist, non-
exploitative/exploitative, equal/hierarchical and non-reductive/reductive.
Illustrative of this was work that demonstrated that qualitative techniques
could also categorize, disempower and be exploitative (Pini, 2002). Comple-
menting this argument have been claims that the survey can be recuperated
for feminist political purposes (Griffin and Phoenix, 1994; Ryan and Golden,
2006; Peake, 2009; Scott, 2010; Williams, 2010). Central to this has been
the realization that method should emerge from the research questions and
moreover, method should not be conflated or confused with epistemol-
ogy and ontology. Several theorists (Lawson, 1995, p. 455; Cohen et al.,
2011, p. 583) have argued that this requires engagement with gender the-
ory, a heightened level of reflexivity about one’s own positionality and
the method, as well as a sensitivity to the context in which quantitative
methods are designed, gathered, analysed, circulated and importantly, con-
sumed. Such perspectives can overcome the antagonism between critical
perspectives and quantitative methods in drawing attention to the radical
potential of ‘counting’ for redressing disadvantage and promoting social
change.
There is consequently a growing scholarly and political imperative
for researchers of men and masculinities to examine the potential of
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quantitative methods in their own work. It is this task that Roger addresses
in the following section.
The overall aim of this study was to examine gendered social connections
through the lens of social exclusion. There is an emerging consensus that
social exclusion is a relational concept with multiple dimensions linking eco-
nomic, social, political and cultural factors (Millar, 2007; Hulse and Saugeres,
2011). Social exclusion has been linked to gender, even when keeping in
mind that gender is itself a complex notion with varying definitions accord-
ing to different theories of feminism, masculinity and sexuality (Connell,
2009).
Social exclusion is gendered in that it is predicated on an economic
capacity to participate socially (Levitas et al., 2007), which is likely to dis-
advantage females given their reduced financial capacity through lower
wages (England, 2005) and marginal labour market involvement (Rees, 1998;
Jackson, 1999), and their greater income and time poverty from single par-
enthood (Saunders et al., 2007). However, social interaction is dependent
upon the strength and breadth of one’s social networks as well as financial
and time capacity. Several studies in Australia have found that Australian
men have poorer social support networks and higher levels of loneliness
(Flood, 2005; Heady and Warren, 2007; Franklin and Tranter, 2008). This is
particularly acute in situations of marital breakdown and the loss of joint
social networks (Shapiro and Keys, 2008; De Vaus et al., 2009).
The key research questions within the study were therefore:
1. Are men more socially disconnected and women more socially excluded?
2. Do higher levels of income reduce disconnection and exclusion for one
of the sexes in particular?
3. Does separating from one’s partner increase disconnection and exclusion
for one of the sexes in particular?
Two sets of secondary data were employed for this study. The use of national
secondary data reduces the scope for reflexivity in design, as the data is
generalizable to whole populations (rather than being designed to target
sub-populations of men and women, for example) and the questions are
pre-formulated across a range of research topics, epistemologies and onto-
logical positions. Reflexivity instead comes in identifying strengths and
weaknesses of the results for the quantitative method, from the point of
view of quantitative researcher, which will be addressed below.
The first dataset was the Household Income and Labour Dynamics in
Australia Survey (HILDA), an annual longitudinal survey running since
2001 with surveys of approximately 14,000 people per year aged 15 and
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over. The data used here is pooled from the first seven waves of HILDA
respondents, containing a total of 37,382 male and 41,256 female respon-
dents (78,637 total respondents). Clustering techniques were employed to
adjust for inflated standard errors associated with pooling the data.
Two summative scales were derived from the HILDA data, one pertaining
to social exclusion and the other to social connection. The questions used
to build the scales were included in all seven of the waves of HILDA used in
this study, and are as follows:
• Social exclusion (scale 0–7): Could not pay electricity, gas or telephone
bills on time; could not pay the mortgage or rent on time; pawned
or sold something; went without meals; was unable to heat home;
asked for financial help from friends or family; asked for help from
welfare/community organizations.
• Social connection (scale 0–70): I don’t have anyone that I can confide in;
I often feel very lonely; people don’t come to visit me as often as I would
like; I often need help from other people but can’t get it; I seem to have
a lot of friends; I have no one to lean on in times of trouble; there is
someone who can always cheer me up when I’m down; I enjoy the time
I spend with the people who are important to me; when something is
on my mind, just talking with the people I know can make a difference;
when I need someone to help me out, I can usually find someone.
The second dataset employed for this study was the Australian Time Use
Survey (ATUS). This is a representative national survey of 13,617 diary days
(6,385 male; 7,232 females) conducted in 2006. Time Use variables such as
average minutes per day spent in various activities can be developed from
this dataset. ATUS data is gathered for all household members 15 years and
over, for two-day time diaries.
The ATUS dataset provides information not only on activities completed
in a day, but on time spent in the presence of others. The key indicator
used for this study was social time spent with friends/family from outside
the household. Further indicators were calculated to produce estimates of
time spent alone, time spent with just household family (partners, children
and relatives) and time spent with non-family friends such as colleagues,
neighbours, housemates, other people’s children and strangers.
Weighted descriptive statistics and regression models were produced
for each set of data. Descriptive statistics included mean scores on the
HILDA scales, and in terms of minutes per day in the time use data.
Regressions included linear Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) models that con-
trol for key demographics: sex, income and marital status. They also con-
trolled for employment/retirement, long hours, education, English-speaking
ability, disability, perceived poor health and urban residency.
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45.00
40.00
35.00
30.00
25.00
20.00
15.00
10.00
5.00
0.00
All Married or Married or Divorced Divorced Never
live couple, live couple, separated separated married
kids no kids widow, kids widow, no
kids
Men
Women
case it is single mothers, but not separated women in general, who are more
excluded relative to men.
Some of the drawbacks of quantitative approaches also become apparent.
The first of these is a tendency towards adopting binary oppositions, such
as between heterosexual men and women as universal categories. There is
inevitably little scope to address questions about non-binary gender cate-
gories, as discussed in research on sexuality, transsexuality or queer theory.
An exploration of the HILDA data on gendered social connection and dis-
connection provides further insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a
quantitative approach to studying masculinity. Figure 9.2 shows perceived
social disconnection for men and women by marital status. The usefulness
of the quantitative approach in presenting a broad national picture is again
apparent. This data presents a picture in many ways opposite to that of social
exclusion in that it is men who report more perceived social disconnection
than women across all categories of marital status.
Marital separation is clearly associated with higher levels of perceived
social disconnection for both sexes, though the sense of disconnection
appears to be stronger for separated men. Of interest, women with chil-
dren report higher levels of perceived social disconnection, whether married
or separated, than women without children. However, men with children
report higher levels of perceived disconnection only when married. Sep-
arated men with or without children are as likely to experience social
32.0
30.0
28.0
26.0
24.0
22.0
20.0
All Married or Married or Divorced Divorced Never
live couple, live couple, separated separated married
kids no kids widow, kids widow,
no kids
Men
Women
disconnection as each other, and more likely than any other combination
of sex and marital status.
This again demonstrates the benefits of the quantitative method for mas-
culinity research. Even more than social exclusion, social disconnection
represents a topic of research that might, on the surface, appear not to be
amenable to quantitative measurement due to the sensitive nature of the
subject matter. It might seem intuitive to think that only deeply personal
and contextualized in-depth interviews would be capable of eliciting the
required information. However, the present study reveals that the process
of comparing statistical data on different groups of men – such as separated
men and single fathers – reveal those groups that are most at risk of social
isolation and disconnection. Putting numbers on such phenomena can help
with identifying the most vulnerable groups in society and formulating pol-
icy to address their needs. Again, however, the lack of context for the data
is problematic in that the results potentially open up more questions than
they resolve. That is, we know that single men and separated men are more
disconnected, but cannot really say why or whether the subjects themselves
are likely to care. To some extent, this limitation can be addressed with more
sophisticated measurement techniques such as asking respondents to assess
the importance of contact as well as estimating their own levels of con-
tact (see Patulny and Wong, 2013). However, the lack of contextual details
remains a weakness in the approach.
The next type of analysis is to examine social time within the day by
marital status, using the ATUS. Time Use data is a particularly important
source of data in gender and masculinity research. It is useful because it
reveals much about the informal world – such as time patterns in private
households, and gendered activities such as housework and care work – that
often escape more conventional surveys. It is also useful in the context of
this study because it can be used to distinguish between perceived versus
actual social disconnection, or the actual experience of spending time alone
or without the contact of family and friends versus feelings of being lonely, a
distinction noted in the social isolation literature (Howat et al., 2004; Flood,
2005; Hawthorne, 2008).
It can be seen in Figure 9.3 that men consistently have less social contact
with friends and family who live outside the household than women in most
categories of marital status. Men also spend more time alone than women
across most categories. Partnered parents of either sex have less social contact
but also less time alone. Separated mothers spend an equivalent amount of
time in social contact and alone to most other women, but separated fathers
show more extreme time patterns than other men, with more social contact
but also more time alone. One of the most interesting results goes against
that established above with the HILDA data. Separation without children
has a strangely adverse effect for women; they spend almost no more time
in social contact, but more time alone than any other category of person.
By contrast, separated men without children have more social contact than
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100%
90%
80%
70%
60%
50%
40%
30%
20%
10%
0%
F M F M F M F M F M
Married or live Married or Divorced Divorced Never
couple, kids live couple, separated separated married
no kids widow, kids widow, no kids
any other men except those who are single, and the large amount of time
they spend alone is still less than that of women. This is also the only marital
status category in which men have more social contact than women.
Taken in combination with the HILDA findings in Figure 9.2, it would
suggest that separated women without children have less contact and lots of
time alone, but do not seem to mind, as they report lower levels of perceived
social disconnection and exclusion. Separated men without children are the
opposite, having more social contact and less time alone, but feeling worse
about it in that they report higher levels of perceived disconnection and
social exclusion. These findings may be the result of other factors, such as
employment status or work hours.
The implications of these findings for masculinity research are that they
show how quantitative data can unravel some of the complexities of
analysing perceptions as opposed to activities and practices. A limitation
of qualitative data is that it often relies upon the perceived feelings asso-
ciated with the phenomenon being analysed, which can be subject to a
number of forms of bias (interviewer, perception, recall, normative) when
seeking precise estimates of behaviours (such as time spent with others).
The quantitative time-diary method employed here circumvents many of
these biases by asking questions simply about how people spend their time.
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Table 9.1 Regression models, social connection and exclusion: HILDA and ATU
HILDA ATU
Conclusion
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128 Counting Men
Introduction
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130 Ongoing Methodological Problematics
the mysterious and the bizarre involves scrutinizing the everyday, for that is
exactly its site.
Since my original research was carried out, new work has emerged, which
has involved both a more systematic consideration of the emotional, sen-
sual and aesthetic dimensions of extreme sports, and a conception of men’s
sporting identity as being ‘in transition’ across different spheres, with some
of this new research influenced, in part, by my earlier ideas (see Thorpe and
Rinehart, 2010; Wheaton, 2010, 2013; Booth, 2011; Thorpe, 2011, 2012, for
examples of these developments).
An investigation into men, masculinities, intimacy and the emotions can
be seen in Whitehead’s (2002) concern with a problematizing of the public–
private divide in relation to work in comparison to home life. He concludes
that feelings of love and anxiety are not easily abandoned just because men
often move between home and work. In addition, intimate relations are
not produced solely in the private world (see Collinson and Hearn, 1996).
However, Whitehead also argues that this public/private dualism has not
been particularly explored in relation to areas such as leisure. Therefore, my
research on sporting masculinities focussed on aspects of men’s emotion,
which were common to the male rock climbers in sporting, home and work
contexts; for example, those such as trust, vulnerability and male friend-
ships. The idea of ‘masculinities in transition’ sums up men’s movements
across and within different spheres, and the impact of growing older and
life-course events on these shifts.
In this chapter, I am concerned with reflecting on and revisiting the theo-
retical and methodological aspects and challenges that I initially encoun-
tered while researching men and masculinities in an extreme sporting
environment, particularly in relation to men’s reflexivity and in the context
of the insider–outsider position of the researcher.
In terms of my sample, including the pilot study, I interviewed 47 people
over the course of the research with ages ranging from 21 to 76. Thirty-
three men were interviewed who were either climbers or lapsed climbers.
Fourteen women were interviewed, from whom eight identified as climbers,
while six female participants did not climb, but were involved in a heterosex-
ual relationship with a male climber. All participants were white and all the
male participants identified as heterosexual. In comparison, 12 female inter-
viewees defined themselves as heterosexual, while two identified as lesbian.
Most of the participants would be classified as middle class, due to their edu-
cation or occupation. This demographic can also be seen in other countries
such as the United States, where climbing is largely a white and middle-class
leisure pursuit, with increasing numbers of women pursuing the sport, some
at high levels (see Robinson, 2013).
Further to using semi-structured interviews, particularly in my analysis of
the data, I drew upon a reflexive auto-ethnography via my previous expe-
rience as a rock climber over a period of years. My own experience has
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included traditional and sport climbing on both rock and ice in the United
Kingdom, Europe and the United States, where I have climbed with male
partners and friends of both sexes (although when I carried out the research
I defined myself as a lapsed climber, since then I have returned to climb-
ing, if in a limited way, for example, sport climbing in Thailand). Further,
through participant observation, I was also able to observe a number of the
climbers in diverse sporting and social situations.
In Robinson (2003), I had initially argued that the ‘extreme’ was a relatively
straightforward concept in relation to extreme sports. Thus, the extreme
could be seen in the fact that to be a good or ‘extreme’ climber, some of the
men had dieted obsessively to enable them to reach their idealized weight,
even to the extent of weighing their food so that their calorie intake did not
go over 1,000 calories a day. Or, alternatively, in terms of the risks taken, the
extremes of pain and injury were confirmed in a number of the climbers’
accounts and often, an acceptance of possible death in certain climbing sit-
uations or, further, a resignation that relationships were likely to fail due to
the intensive nature of the leisure pursuit.
But, as my empirical work in this area of sporting masculinities pro-
gressed, I found that an exploration of mundane and extreme experiences
in ‘extreme sports’ reveals the everyday nature of the practices, which con-
stitute rock climbing in a more problematic way than originally anticipated.
In certain contexts, what might be considered ‘extreme’ behaviour by most
people, such as courting injury or evident risk-taking, was viewed as more
‘mundane’ and everyday by the rock climbers in the study. Conversely, for
some of the participants, it was through the mundane practices associated
with climbing, such as assisting a partner to climb a route by ‘belaying’,
which sometimes entails hours spent in isolation paying out a rope, with the
climber many feet above, that close male friendships were formed, and not,
as might be expected, through extreme events such as accidents or daring
and spectacular sporting exploits, as this climber, aged 28, revealed:
And, there’s a lot of bonding that goes on. It doesn’t need to be a par-
ticularly hard climb, but I mean, if the weather changes, if you’re on
a long route and you get soaking wet through . . . I think those kinds of
experiences always help kind of cement friendships.
some of the men in the study had been able to control their emotions. This
could be seen, for example, in not showing weakness or fear when faced
with a dangerous situation, when on a route above the level they normally
climbed at, or in accepting pain as part of a ‘normal’ and masculinizing
sporting experience. This was also apparent when they sometimes displayed
sexist attitudes regarding female climbers’ capabilities and achievements.
And, in so doing, they found it hard to see such experiences in gendered
terms, for instance, in relation to them having power through virtue of being
male in an extreme sport given the still dominant ratio of male to female
climbers. Further, some climbers failed to see injury, and a reckless attitude
to their bodies, as being connected to dominant ideologies of hegemonic
masculinity, which prioritize bravado or risk-taking behaviour, as could be
seen when a male climber described training practices as ‘shredding their
hands to bits’.
However, other participants were able to be open about, or even critically
engage with, such processes that can be seen to constitute ‘masculinity’.
This could be due, for example, to whether they had experienced traumatic
climbing events, or where they were situated in the life course. For some,
trusting another male climbing partner, sometimes literally, with their life,
entailed that taken for granted aspects of masculinity had to be rethought, or
re-imagined after a sporting crisis, or having had experienced moments of
intense vulnerability, or deep emotion at the loss of a friend in a climbing
accident. In contrast, some older climbers were able to reflect thoughtfully
on how a male climbing identity is linked to status and bodily changes with
aging, as this man in his 60s did:
So, I was not like people who were simply in it because of the status of
being able to climb very hard. And a lot of those, when they weren’t able
to do it at the highest levels, dropped out and did other things. For me,
there was always a, a much wider context.
practise a climbing career), finding a job and starting a new relationship, for
instance, were all things, which happened to some of the climbers in the
study. Therefore, I was concerned, as Connell (2005) articulates, to see how
masculinity can be open to both internal contradiction as well as historical
disruption.
The idea of masculinities in transition used in my original (2008) research
has since informed other sporting studies on masculinity. For example,
Thorpe (2011), in a study of snowboarding, details how for men taking
on more social responsibilities such as having children, getting married
and being in long-term employment change their everyday experiences
of the sport; some of them abandoning fratriarchal groups they had
formed, becoming more individualistic, more averse to risk-taking, with
snowboarding becoming a less central part of their lives than hitherto. Fur-
ther, she found that some of her participants now spent more time with
their female partners who were often encouraged to start snowboarding,
something that is complicated by whether they had defined themselves as
‘core’ boarders or non-core. Thorpe (2011, p. 185) argues, therefore, that
such life-course shifts in how the men participate in their chosen sport allow
them to be critically reflexive about certain elements of ‘the hypermascu-
line snowboarding habitus’ and she uses a gendered reading of Bourdieu’s
idea of habitus-field complex to illuminate ‘men’s multiple and dynamic
subjectivities, and potential for gender reflexivity’. Her data revealed that
these newly found adult responsibilities, employment, higher education and
transitions over the life course afforded some of the male boarders the capac-
ity to critically reflect on aspects of the sport such as reckless and abusive
behaviour in relation to risk-taking, pain and injury, and family/relationship
responsibilities/priorities, homophobia and sexism, for instance. In this way,
the conflicts experienced by some participants over these different ‘ways of
being’, at times allowed them to question, for example, the ‘naturalness’ of
the gender order.
Methodologically, this then raises issues around how we get to the diverse,
embodied experiences of men as they travel across and between these dif-
ferent sites in a range of extreme sports. This was partly addressed by my
observing participants at parties or in other social settings such as pubs,
or climbing and mountaineering events and conferences as well as having
been climbing, in the past, with some of the interviewees. In addition, my
insider access to some of the male climbers as acquaintances, or as friends
of climbers I knew well, or even sometimes as my friends, including those
I defined as elite and non-elite, allowed me access to their lives in the private
sphere. Therefore, I could observe them in their heterosexual relationships
as I was friends with some of their (climbing and non-climbing) female
partners. I occasionally had meals with some of the male climbers, some-
times with their heterosexual partners present. This was useful to be able to
see how sporting identities are also created by men’s roles in the domestic
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sphere and to see how their climbing identities informed, for example, their
topics of conversation in their everyday lives, where dinner party conver-
sations revolved, often, around their climbing exploits, or illuminated how
non-climbing female partners would sometimes be resentful of ‘losing’ their
male climbing partners to the sport on weekends, when they expected their
dual leisure time to be spent more with each other. It was also helpful in
facilitating my being able to observe men’s embodied practices, which an
interview itself may not always fully illuminate, given, as Bourdieu (1977)
points out, that much of practice is not carried out consciously (although
follow-up interviews with some of these climbers allowed me to probe more
deeply around certain aspects I had noticed in these earlier observations).
In my work with male rock climbers, more specifically, it was the prob-
lematizing of the extreme and mundane everyday lives of my extreme
sporting participants, which allowed the separation of the sporting sphere
from other aspects of everyday life to be reflexively re-configured in some
of the climbers’ accounts. Utilizing the concept of ‘mundane extremities’
in my research, for example, allowed me to pose questions to the partici-
pants who made diverse aspects of the familiar strange, and the strange (or
extreme) familiar, in relation to their everyday lives. Therefore, participants
could reflect on their sporting, personal and work lives in new, and poten-
tially illuminating (or even liberating), ways. In other words, participants
were encouraged to be reflexive in ways, which meant that they not only
had to recollect and reflect on life-course changes such as how injury had
affected their aging bodies, or how becoming a father would affect the fre-
quency and type of their climbing practices, but they were encouraged to do
so from a new perspective. For instance, this occurred when being encour-
aged to consider impending fatherhood as a new and exciting adventure, in
a similar way that, in the past, climbing their next hard route had been con-
ceived. Or, by being able to reflect on how the extreme risk-taking aspects
of climbing, such as climbing beyond one’s limits, had begun to, at least
partially, lose some of their attraction as the climbing practices and related
emotions had become commonplace, even boring.
As well, the decision to have women in the sample, including those who
climbed, but also the non-climbing partners/friends of the male participants,
meant that they were able to give a different perspective or alternative nar-
rative regarding men’s behaviour and reflections. These were sometimes a
correction of the men’s accounts, and sometimes an alternative view of how
men ‘do’ masculinity differently, between and within the different spheres,
and across the different stages of the life course. The women’s voices also
at times challenged any automatic assumption that increased reflexivity by
the male climbers necessarily entailed a meaningful change in identity or in
established and often ingrained and embodied practices. For instance, this
female non-climbing partner of an elite male climber, in her 30s, observes
that male climbers are ‘ . . . quite accepting of women who climb. But there’s
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still an attitude towards them. I think particularly when they have a family,
or relationships, for the climbing’s kind of up here and the relationship’s
down there.’
Thus, Thorpe (2011, p. 188) also deliberates on the idea that ‘the pres-
ence of reflexivity does not automatically translate into masculine identity
transformation’ (or, I would add, necessarily challenge male power), given
that though we may gain recognition through such changes, we are not
always able to act on this knowledge. In addition, as men leave the sporting
sphere for different reasons, and enter new fields, in the process gaining dif-
ferent roles and identities, there is no guarantee that, for example, traditional
gender roles and relations will not be pre-existing there. As I concluded in
Robinson (2008), and in agreement with Woodward (2002), routine and pre-
emptive masculinities combine in (and across) different sites, which allow
male identities to be, at times, re-drawn, albeit in contradictory and ambigu-
ous ways. But, given that some aspects of (male) climbing culture have not
changed in the years since I did the research (see Robinson, 2013), a mate-
rialist feminist emphasis on male domination, along with a critical study of
men and masculinities perspective can remind us that many men still do not
have a vested interest in giving up (sporting) power. Moreover, though men
being reflexive on their sporting identity can be indicative of a real need
to transform their personal and sporting lives, such reflection can also be
strategic, or inauthentic, in effect.
Wheaton (2013) has carried out work on race in the windsurfing commu-
nity, which has parallels with my location in relationship to my climbing
research:
identity was sutured into being a rock climber (so much so that his sense
of self, self-esteem and psychological stability depended on it), had prior-
itized his pursuit of climbing, for example, by climbing at the weekend,
when I would have preferred he spend time with me, or my son. Although
initially I had not conceptualized this as a problem, as it afforded both of
us autonomy within the relationship and my enjoyment of the space this
arrangement created for myself, over the life course, and with my greater
responsibilities of being a single parent in full-time employment, this situa-
tion became less acceptable. Thus, current reflection on this state of affairs
has made me aware of how much this had affected our relationship over
time, and, indeed, how any attempts to re-negotiate its parameters in the lat-
ter stages, revealed that this was a non-negotiable aspect of our relationship
on my (ex-)partner’s part.
With reflexive distance, I can now see how much I empathized with the
female partners of male climbers, in the research, who had faced a similar
situation. And, again, with the passing of time, I can see how my increasing
frustration with the relationship, alongside also eventually his, was symbol-
ized by my not wanting to discuss the research findings with him, despite
him having helped with access issues, for example. Thus, from being an
‘insider’, if tangentially, to the research early on, he became an ‘outsider’
to the work in its later stages, as I, unbeknown at the time, psychologi-
cally distanced myself from him by refusing to grant him further ‘insider’
status.
Thus, as I noted previously, such subjectivity can sometimes act to cloud
the researcher’s judgement in terms of over-empathizing with some respon-
dents over others. However, it can also, potentially at least, inform the
research in illuminating ways, in this instance, giving the researcher a way
of understanding some of the issues faced by those women who are in rela-
tionships with male climbers whose own masculine identity is dependent
on how often, and how well, they climb. Thus, this then engenders possibil-
ities for a more nuanced theorizing of intimacy, the emotions and gendered
heterosexual leisure. And, in my study, my own personal relationship and
the difficulties I was encountering within it, allowed me to recognize when
some of the male climbers were, indeed, attempting to ‘do’ masculinity dif-
ferently. This was also something a climber in his 20s acknowledged when
he said:
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Introduction
We welcome the opportunity offered by the editors of this text to write dis-
ability into men, masculinities and methodologies. Too often disability is
left out of research texts. Mallett (2007) observes that the triad of race, gen-
der and sexuality has found its way into cultural studies although disability
is often absent. Meanwhile, a number of disabled feminists have addressed
feminisms’ structural amnesia about the specifics of disabled women’s/men’s
oppression (Morris, 1996; Ghai, 2006). These absences led Olkin (2002) to
ask, will disabled people ever be allowed to board the diversity train? For-
tunately, recent developments have led writers and activists such as Marks
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Dan Goodley and Katherine Runswick-Cole 143
(1999) and Thomas (2007) to argue that critical theory has matured as a
transdisciplinary space, in which the intersections of gender, class, disability,
age, race and nation are to be understood. Bringing together these different
markers of identity and politicizing them permits us to consider how each
might support and at times problematize the constitution of one another.
Following Goodley (2011, p. xi), critical disability studies is a broad area of
theory, research and practice that is antagonistic to the popular view that
disability equates with personal tragedy. While we may identify people as
having physical, sensory, cognitive or mental health impairments, critical
disability studies place the problems of disability in society. Critical disability
studies might be viewed as
The very idea of disability remains largely dormant in studies of men and
masculinity (Shakespeare, 1999). Hence, while there have been some (recent)
critical disability studies foray into this area of analysis – as we shall show
below – we are left wondering: what kinds of ableist assumptions might
underpin the research encounter with masculinity? The task of our chapter,
then, is to challenge some of these assumptions and centre disability in
relation to methodological approaches to the study of masculinities. Our
intervention is an epistemological one as we ask, how does an understand-
ing of disability disrupt, challenge or maybe reaffirm some of the tacit and
taken-for-granted ideas of doing masculinity research? To appropriate ques-
tions from Harding’s (1993) classic paper: how can masculinity researchers
create methodologies for disabled men and develop theory that is grounded
in the knowledge and theories of disabled men while also sensitive to the
workings of heterosexism?
Furthermore, armed with albeit a limited knowledge of some of the aspira-
tions and experiences of disabled men shared in this chapter, how do critical
disability studies impact on the ethics, methods, analytical findings and the-
oretical resources that are drawn upon in studies of men, masculinities and
methodologies? We seek to address these questions through reference to
stories of disabled men taken from a recent research project, and via the
insights from critical disability studies literature that have the potential to
challenge – to crip – masculinity research.
We follow Shakespeare’s (1999, p. 59) stance that ‘it is necessary to decon-
struct and decode masculinities, including disabled versions’ and agree
with him that ‘non-disabled men have things to learn from disabled men,
and could profitably share insights into gender relations, sexuality and
144 Disability
A qualitative study
Qualitative research, narrative inquiry and disability studies have long histo-
ries of association (Langness and Levine, 1986; Ferguson et al., 1992; Banister
et al., 2011). One reason for this interconnection relates to the novel ideas,
unexpected findings and change of perspectives offered by ceding power in
the research venture to the expertise of narrators and storytellers. Likewise,
through listening to the tales of our narrators – and contextualizing these
accounts in relation to the wider critical disability studies literature – we have
been forced to think more carefully about the intersections of masculinity
and disability: raising a number of key questions.
not disabled; (b) it’s none of anyone else’s business; (c) you don’t accept the
unitary, atomistic concept of ‘dis/abled’; or (d) you don’t think it’s important
to be disabled to speak of disability. Third, the partisan response; you think it
is more important to articulate an alliance with the aims of the disabled
people’s movement than to self-identify as disabled. Intent might be more
powerful than identity.
up to the ideal male model.’ Narrative inquiry has the potential to pick up
on these nuanced and problematic dealings with ableist norms and disabled
reactions:
Being a disabled is at odds with hegemonic ideas around ‘real men’ enjoying
power and privilege (Shakespeare et al., 1996). However, these contradictions
can only be understood in a culture of disablism: ‘a form of social oppres-
sion involving the social imposition of restrictions of activity on people
with impairments and the socially engendered undermining of their psycho-
emotional well-being’ (Thomas, 2007, p. 73). Such undermining experiences
were related by Jack:
I think some people are genuinely nice and some people like to make a
big show of it, like ‘Hey everyone I’m helping this disabled person, look
at me!’ That really drives me mad, when people are being completely,
‘Hey I’m helping!’ That’s when I do lose my temper, although I do try
to give people chances. At Tesco up the road, the Big Issue seller was like
that. He’d actually say things to other shoppers like: ‘I really like helping
disabled people’ – that was really condescending for me. I doubt if he’d
liked it if I’d bought one of his magazines off him then started telling
people going past that I really like helping homeless people.
Disablism is not simply about the material barriers that deny people
with impairment access to education, work and communities. In addition,
disablism is felt psycho-emotionally: it gets under the skin and is found in
the subtle relationships with and reactions of others (Reeve, 2002, 2008). Just
as disabled feminists have alerted us to the ways in which the private is made
public, disabled men also often experience ‘the unwanted attentions, intru-
sions and stares with which non-disabled women are familiar’ (Shakespeare,
1999, p. 62). As Odette (1999, p. 95) succinctly puts it, ‘perceptions of others
have their effect on me. As I go about my life, my public self has much
work to do’. Research methodologies on men, disability and masculinity
must follow the move in both disability and men’s studies to address an
over-reliance on analyses of public life, marketplace and domination of the
body as a machine and turn to considerations of the personal and political
too (Roussel and Downs, 2007, p. 185).
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What wears me down is the physical effort of getting out of bed and
going to work. The feeling of helplessness when I see my wife carrying
the heavy shopping bags – it is all the day-to-day activities that people
don’t consider (Geoff).
Not having a very visible disability is quite interesting . . . For instance,
sometimes I have people saying things like ‘oh you know, you are a big
strong guy, you can do this’ and that’s difficult because part of me wants
to be that big strong guy and move the chair and carry the thing over
there . . . I’m still struggling with some of those elements of thinking and
I want to be a very able person with a disability (Chris).
I remember being told, one of the early visits when I went to hospital
by the doctor saying ‘well you are never going to be able to play foot-
ball or you are never going to be able to drive a car and you are never
going to be able to do this’ and there was all these things he was saying
I couldn’t do. And I do drive a car now and I don’t play football because
I’m not particularly interested in it to be honest, but I have a family and
I function (Chris).
methods have the potential for reflecting and revisioning one’s life through
the very processes of storytelling.
Along the way I did a lot of experimentation, at times hurting others’ feel-
ings and getting my own feelings hurt too. I sought out every opportunity
to express my sexuality and have it affirmed.
Tepper appears to make sense of himself, and others, through the competing
discourses, attitudes and practices that surround disability, masculinity and
sexuality. A similar perspective was offered by David:
The crutches and the disability shouldn’t define me. I am a person with
my own interests and it just so happens I use crutches to get around. Some
people are scared of that, I’ve done some sort of on line dating, I don’t
stick that I’m disabled on my profile . . . you’ve got to risk things to get the
reward of having the relationship.
the time to retrieve those moments and events that say something about
disability and masculinity.
Killacky (2004, p. 57) shares David’s view that disability has broadened
his outlook when he acknowledges being ‘someone who was quite phallo-
centric, I have been forced to reorient my sexuality’. Both Tepper (1999)
and Liddiard (2012) have attended to the ways in which, for some dis-
abled men, personal assistants have been called on to lend a hand in
terms of masturbation and sexual activities with partners and sex work-
ers. The involvement of the latter group is particularly problematic and
vexed with a host of competing interests and political responses. David’s
story captures the ways in which disability is an opportunity or event for
rethinking traditional gender roles and relationalities. Similar opportuni-
ties emerged for George to rethink his career while parenting his disabled
daughter:
So there was lots of hospital visits, Diane had a shunt fitted because her
head was getting bigger. I used to go to the appointments if we were going
to find out something important. At the time, I worked for a small firm
and they were good at giving me the time off, but now I work for myself
and I don’t think I could have managed when Diane has had long spells
in hospital in subsequent years if I hadn’t been self-employed.
152 Disability
I do feel that I want to be involved even though Diane’s mum and I aren’t
together anymore . . . Just because I don’t live with Diane all the time
I don’t want to lose my say in how things are done . . . We can’t take her
hoist everywhere we go. It is difficult trying to take her to the toilet or
getting her in and out of my car. Now my partner and I live separately,
my partner has got Diane’s adapted vehicle but I am managing with a
normal car (George).
Liddiard (2012) reminds us that while the disabled body may crip and
queer traditional understandings of masculinity, when disabled men have
been denied access to normative experiences of friendships, relationships
and sexuality, it is hardly surprising that they may express desires for these
Dan Goodley and Katherine Runswick-Cole 153
Conclusion
Notes
1. By ‘cripping’ we are referring to the ways in which disability fundamentally
challenges, questions and unveils the processes associated with the ideals of
heternormativity, ableism, patriarchy and hegemonic masculinity (see McRuer,
2006).
2. See, for example, Garland Thomson (2005), Ghai (2006), Morris (1991, 1996),
Thomas (1999, 2007) and Wendell (1996).
3. Goodley (2011) uses this in honour of the great man’s response to a journalist’s
question during the ‘Bed-in protest’ in Amsterdam March 1969, when asked what
‘right he had’ to make such a demonstration.
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Introduction
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158 Peering Upwards: Researching Ruling-Class Men
Our aim, then, in Ruling Class Men, was to focus on the lives of men of the
ruling class, both the everyday and over the life course, as described in their
own accounts and those of people close to them. The challenges faced in
such a study are huge. How can we hope to understand how life appears from
the point of view of these men, whose worlds are so different from our own,
and into which we would never be admitted for participant observation?
Unlike Rupert Murdoch’s biographer, William Shawcross, himself an Old
Mike Donaldson and Scott Poynting 159
Etonian, the son of a peer of the realm and a former British intelligence
officer (Nelson, 1992, p. 9), we cannot gain entrée to the milieu of enor-
mously rich men, nor are we likely to be granted an audience with their
like. Our social distance, the hostility of our subjects and their gatekeepers,3
and our own dislike of them, means that there are no serious prospects of
ethnography.
Life history
We found a viable alternative in a particular adaptation of life history meth-
ods. In Making the Difference, Connell et al. (1982) had used life history
methods in interviewing over 400 secondary school students (both male
and female), their parents and their teachers. About half of the participat-
ing families were ruling class, the other half working class. In their research,
the ‘ruling class’ means:
in all its uniqueness at the same time involved interpreting a social system,
as the phases and processes that mediate each are revealed in their relation
to the other (Ferrarotti, 1981, pp. 21–22).
Life histories, as conceived by Thomas and Znaniecki (1958), may draw
not only upon interviews, but also autobiographies, diaries and political
memoirs. While each of these types of documentary source is limited by the
purpose for which it was written and yields only a partial and particular
view, they all span a period of time. ‘Life history method always con-
cerns the making of social life through time. It is literally history’ (Connell,
1995, p. 89).
While Connell et al. (1982) could draw upon rich and candid interviews,
most of their ruling-class interviewees could fairly be described as lieutenants
of the class rather than captains of industry, let alone the class’s general staff.
Connell (2002, p. 321) recalls one family of ‘a man who rose far and fast to
become one of Australia’s most powerful industrialists’, but many were pro-
fessionals and salaried businessmen who, while undoubtedly ruling class in
the terms defined by these researchers, were not among the 2–5 per cent
of the wealthiest to whom we limited our study in Ruling Class Men. More-
over, our subjects were not filthy rich by dint of a ‘rapid rise’; we elected to
focus upon those families who had been ruling class for at least three gen-
erations. For such men, we would have to rely on existing biographies and
autobiographies.
We believe that it is possible to treat autobiographies and biographies as
‘found life histories’ (Donaldson and Poynting, 2007, pp. 17–18). Granted,
this involves eliding the distinction between biography and autobiography,
in order to have a multiplicity of sources and therefore the possibility of tri-
angulation. Catani (1981, p. 212) suggests that in life histories, the narrator
performs the role of an autobiographer, and the researcher that of a biogra-
pher. Marcia Wright (1989, p. 155) points out that life histories are mediated
by another (while presenting the subject’s perspective), whereas autobiogra-
phies give their subject the ultimate control over the representation of their
selves, while biography is informed by many sources of various significance.
Yet in the case of ruling-class men, we (Donaldson and Poynting, 2007,
pp. 18–19) observed that, the richer the subject, the more social is the
production of their story. The lonely vigil of the autobiographer, or the one-
on-one interaction with the biographer or life-historian, is not for the very
wealthy, who tend to retain professional teams to produce their story who
may call on scores of eager interviewees to enrich it.
What matters, then, is truthfulness. We want to use the insights of ruling-
class men (and those around them) into their world, to create a sense of their
place in it, of their understanding of themselves as men as they move in it
and shape it. We want to make this collective portrait – or perhaps more
accurately, ‘composite picture’ (Connell et al., 1981, p. 105) – as accurate
as we can, in ways that are not ‘reductionist’ but are rich in nuance and
Mike Donaldson and Scott Poynting 161
subjectivity, and yet are, in some sense, reliable and representative of the
men they are and of the men like them. How can we ensure this?
may quite sincerely believe what is actually untrue (Elder, 1981, p. 110).
In his partly autobiographical exercise, Fraser interviewed his family’s former
servants and their children to interrogate his own recollections.
One methodological solution to the problem of corroborating oral testi-
monies was inspired by investigative journalists who reported on Watergate
conspiracy of the Nixon era in the US. In one study of corporate execu-
tives, sociologists used what they called ‘the Woodward-Bernstein principle
of verification’, which was that ‘Two independent sources had to validate or
confirm an observation before we took it as a social fact or common under-
standing’ (Denzin, 1981, p. 155). This makes good sense and we have found
it useful.
Yet Bertaux and Bertaux-Wiame (1981) are most helpful on this question,
through advancing the notion of ‘saturation’. This goes not only to the prob-
lem of truthfulness, but also to the question of when to stop gathering data.
These life history proponents advocate that researchers diversify as far as pos-
sible the cases observed until what they call ‘saturation’ is reached. When
specific elements emerge regularly, when it becomes obvious that certain
patterns are not due to random individual characteristics and circumstances,
then ‘saturation’ has been achieved and the study can be considered valid.
Subsequent life stories repeatedly revealed to Bertaux and Bertaux-Wiame
(1981) the same elements, which soon appeared characteristic not just of
the respondents but of their social relations. Stories were told the first time,
then confirmed and reconfirmed, over and over:
Every new life story was confirming what the preceding ones had shown.
Again and again we were collecting the same story [. . .] what was happen-
ing was a process of saturation: on it rests the validity of our sociological
assumptions. One life story is only one life story [. . .] Several life stories
taken from the same set of socio-structural relations support each other
and make up altogether a strong body of evidence.
(Bertaux and Bertaux-Wiame, 1981, p. 187)
We will list here very briefly some of the common features of third-
generation very rich men’s lives that emerged from the ‘found life histories’
that we studied.6 First, these men use their enormous power and influence
for personal gain no matter the social costs – at times merely to satisfy a
whim or an urge, sometimes to avoid personal boredom through lack of
what is seen as ‘challenge’, or at other times for the sheer excitement that
wielding such power apparently generates.
Second, we found that sentiment and consideration of others are
expunged from the character of these ruling-class men. Indeed, the con-
sequences of their actions are immaterial to them, because their belief in
their own superiority and their inflated vision of their own talents implies
the inferiority and inconsequentiality of everyone else. Their arrogance and
sense of entitlement is painstakingly inculcated and nurtured from birth.
They undergo a deliberate regime of ‘toughening up’, experiencing emo-
tional distance and a lack of intimacy that produces disconnection from
others, the repression of loving feelings and the distortion of any intimate
relationships that might hinder their accumulation of capital.
Infants of this class are raised by servants in the nursery, such that love and
emotion appear as a commodity provided by the market. Sons of the very
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rich learn that they need no one particular person; the market meets their
needs. Domestic service also releases the rich from the need for basic life
skills. Feeling and emotion are commodified, and a sense of deep loss is con-
structed. Those servants they come to love are regularly moved on. This is
a concerted parental strategy designed to ‘build character’. Compounded by
the presence of servants in very large homes, the lack of intimacy and regime
of formality intensifies the repression of emotions, which can normally be
expressed only with and to those whose presence is typically uncertain
and frequently short-lived. Later as adults, ruling-class men depend emo-
tionally on those whom they pay, whose trust and confidentiality they
buy, confident that the affection and regard thus purchased will not be an
embarrassment in their own social circles.
Ruling-class boys are routinely ‘sent away’ to elite boarding schools. Here
they are inculcated in hierarchy and aggressively competitive individualism,
later brought to fruition, for some, in elite university colleges. At these exclu-
sive institutions, they take on a masculinity that is competitive, repressive,
aggressive and autocratic, forged in a deeply traditional structure that assigns
gendered tasks within a system of fixed hierarchies and impresses these so
firmly that they are transferred intact to the world outside.
The objective of this masculinity is domination. Those who either can’t
or don’t want to lead and to win are despised. The boys learn early that
friendship, even within their restricted circle, is unreliable and dangerous
because it threatens the distance that protects them from others and from
their own feelings for others. At the same time, these shallow and fragile
friendships suffice to support invaluable social networks, establishing con-
nections and making possible useful contacts. Brutalization and bullying
are endemic and functional in these schools, linking competition to ruth-
lessness. Conformity – to class – is another key product of this privileged
education.
The masculinity hegemonic in these institutions is characterized by the
absence of women from all but helping and serving functions. It sys-
tematically maligns and deprecates ‘womanly’ attributes wherever they
appear, defining them as manifestations of a vulnerability, passivity, soft-
ness and incompetence, thought by the boys also to typify homosexuality.
Defined against the otherness of femaleness, colour and homosexuality,
a special masculinity is effectively produced in these institutions. Might,
strength, aggression, honour, daring and indifference to the feelings of oth-
ers, are among its characteristics. It is an imperious, physically combative,
space-appropriating masculinity, which constricts diversity and ranks other
masculinities within the hierarchical logic of scrambling for future rewards.
In this way, the masculinity of the hegemonic is deeply caught up in the
preservation and continuance of the class which shapes its nature. Above
all, it trains those who embrace or suffer it, that it alone is the masculinity
that they need to succeed in the world they create in their own image.
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It is but a short step from here to the boardroom, where the strate-
gies learned at school and college are consolidated and rigidified into a
fully developed ethos. Young ruling-class men are eased into the world
of business by their fathers or their fathers’ appointees and are generally
groomed for the inheritance of their ‘empires’. They slip into the existing
business networks, not the least part of which are in the form of marriage
alliances.
For ruling-class men, romantic, sexual and marital love appear as trans-
actions; as distant, strangely impersonal and instrumental just like all their
other dealings, which pass for close relations. Sex and love are commodities,
purchasable and exchangeable, to which even acquisitiveness, accumulation
and competition can apply. Certainly, power relations are central to them,
often involving bullying and humiliation. Sexual violence is not unknown,
but ruling-class men often avoid sanctions for this through the deployment
of their class and patriarchal power. In love, sex and marriage, as in other
areas of their lives, rich and powerful men impose their will and demand to
be entertained, satiated and appeased.
Space and motion are experienced and constructed differently by the very
wealthy. Their world is both homogenous and spatially dispersed; far-flung
and yet familiar; simultaneously global and seamless. Their fabulously swift,
extremely comfortable and intensely private multi-modal means of travel
compress space. The locations they move between, the buildings in which
they live, are very large, and one rich man occupies easily 1,000 times
more space than any ordinary person. The exclusivity of the suburbs of the
wealthy is maintained over time as their properties are passed down both
through the generations and between families, maintaining and enhancing
their value while ensuring the social isolation and internal cohesion of those
who own them.
The time of ruling-class men is by no means clearly divided between work
and leisure for the two merge perceptibly and there is little in the way of a
division between the working day and recreation. Their work often resem-
bles leisure, and leisure pursuits resemble work. Deals are done at dinner
parties, business is done at gentlemen’s clubs or over golf. At play, as at work,
the competitiveness, manipulation, control and the excitement of apparent
risk is what obsesses ruling-class men; without it they are bored and lack
purpose. The work of ruling-class men is characterized by obsessive compet-
itive individualism spurred by a keen sense of their superiority, and ceaseless
acquisitiveness reinforced by their feelings of deservedness. It involves the
habitual exercise of power expressed in hierarchy, bullying, manipulation
and determination to prevail. Detachment from, and ruthlessness towards,
others is virtually universal among this class of men.
The lack of distinction between work and leisure means that ruling-class
men rarely ‘retire’. At death, there is, in the manner of royalty, a succession.
Towards the ends of their lives, they become obsessed with the logistics of
166 Peering Upwards: Researching Ruling-Class Men
passing on their empires, usually to family and mostly to sons. Many become
involved in leaving monuments to themselves – acts often interpreted
(as they would wish) as generosity, altruism or civic-mindedness, qualities
altogether out of keeping with the way they have lived their lives. Their
lives, devoid of friendship, trust, loyalty or meaningful love, are ultimately
made meaningless by their ceaseless pursuit of profit.
Of course, space has precluded the provision here of any of the evidence
for these findings, which is laid out in detail in Ruling Class Men. Suffice
to say that mutually corroborating and triangulating between a multiplicity
of diverse ‘found life history’ sources guided by the principle of ‘saturation’
outlined above, convinces us that our composite pictures of ruling-class men
are reliable and reflect the social structures that produce them and which
they in turn reproduce.
generation(s), as well as its pursuit and deployment in their daily lives, will
be well worthy of future study.
Our attention to the culture of the very rich, and the intersectionality
between gender relations and class relations, should also alert researchers to
the interrelations of both of these sets of relations with cultures of ethnic-
ity. Our reliance on English language sources and our focus on anglophone
billionaires in Ruling Class Men have left these questions to be answered. The
economic developments in China and India, for example, with its inevitable
shifting of the centre of gravity of global economic power and the demo-
graphics of the extremely rich, will make these very important questions
indeed.
Conclusion
Notes
1. Although the ‘facts in the case’ may have altered somewhat in statistical terms
since Connell’s influential book was written, their fundamental pattern has not,
since the structures have not; the ‘case’ remains substantively the same.
2. Since then, Roger Salerno (2007) has written a book with this title, about the
‘Chicago School’, referring to its foundational contribution to this tendency.
3. The polo manager of Kerry Packer, Australia’s then richest man, threatened his
unofficial biographer Paul Barry that he would ‘spread [his] face’ (Hawley, 1993,
p. 10).
4. Mandy Rice-Davies was a friend of fellow ‘call girl’ Christine Keeler, a player in the
1963 Profumo scandal. She famously said this in court about the testimony of Lord
Astor.
5. ‘I want to do a sociology of ruling-class masculinity which solves the problem of
distance and access by using autobiographies and biographies of the men them-
selves and those around them and which tackles the problem of truthfulness
by developing a collective portrait of them through the method of saturation’
(Donaldson 1997, p. 102).
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6. These findings can be found in detail in Donaldson and Poynting (2007), but
see also Donaldson (2003), Donaldson and Poynting (2004) and Poynting and
Donaldson (2005).
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13
Getting into the Lives of Ruling-Class
Men: Conceptual Problems,
Methodological Solutions
Sebastián Madrid
Introduction
Author’s note: I thank the editors for their comments on early versions of this chapter
that helped me to improve it.
170
Sebastián Madrid 171
When sociologists have studied power and privilege, they have framed their
research in terms of elites or ruling class. These are two different theoretical
traditions that imply two different approaches to power in society. The con-
cept of ruling class is preferable for studying masculinities because it puts
issues of power, domination, conflict and social change at the front of the
analysis. However, both concepts share a tendency to focus on the position
172 Getting into the Lives of Ruling-Class Men
men and women, and among men, and the study of the relationship
between hegemonic and non-hegemonic forms of masculinities in the ruling
class (Messerschmidt, 2010).
The idea of the ruling class as a large network of people also enhances the
universe of potential participants, including younger generations, and men
in fractions that are not necessarily in leadership positions but close enough
to be related to power and enjoy its privileges. Most importantly, this allows
us to include women and to give specific attention to their practices and
the historical interplay of femininities and masculinities when researching
hegemonic masculinities (Connell and Messerschmidt, 2005). This is more
than the statistical assumption that in increasing the sample size, our under-
standing of masculinities will be increased or complemented. This move puts
the relationship between masculinities and femininities at the centre of the
study of gender hegemony (Schippers, 2007).
married and two-thirds had children. While the majority grew up in fami-
lies with a patriarchal gender division of labour, some have produced more
gender equitable arrangements. However, there is still a massive tendency
to rely on domestic service, including live-in female domestic employees
(known as nanas). All interviewees except one male presented themselves as
heterosexuals.
The anxiety of some sociologists of elite about the power imbalance in the
interview context reflects that social scientists are not familiar with study-
ing people who might be in positions of greater power than them. Based
on a feminist approach, Conti and O’Neil (2007, p. 79) criticize the notion
of ‘studying up’ precisely because it ‘distorts and reifies the complex power
dynamics in the interview’ obscuring ‘the complex agency and subject posi-
tion of all people involved in the research process’. That is, overestimates the
agency of elites and underestimates the agency of the researcher. Some schol-
ars suggest, then, that many of the initial anxieties about power imbalance
are ‘misplaced’ (Ross, 2001, p. 164; Gilding, 2010).
I would add that the problem is exaggerated because elite researchers
reduce their subjects of study to people in top institutional positions and
interview them in that account. This problem is avoided when using the
enhanced concept of ruling class presented above. The new concept allowed
me to interview privileged and powerful men not from their institutional
position but from an everyday life context. For instance, when I interviewed
senior managers I interviewed them as alumni of elite private schools, not
as corporate men.
Thus, the interview dynamic here is different from what social scientist
are used to, but it is not a situation of subordination or marginalization.
I experienced that difference in a number of ways doing the interviews with
ruling-class men. These differences stressed that power is a situated relation-
ship that varies depending on the context. It also implied simultaneous class
and gender power dynamics. For an analytical purpose, I will present these
power dynamics separately.2
The first difference in terms of power is what I called ‘the interviewer
being interviewed’. At the outset of the interviews with senior managers or
members of the traditional fraction of the ruling class, it was common that
they interviewed me, asking questions about my life and upbringing. This
included issues from the school I attended, to how my life in Sydney was,
or what my plans were after completing the PhD. Thus, it seemed that they
were more interested in positioning me in the class structure than in the
research. As I was an alumnus of an elite private school and relatively the
same age as one-third of the interviewees (mid-30s), some of them used my
Sebastián Madrid 177
Conclusion
Studying the lives of ruling-class men is critical for understanding and chal-
lenging the general structure of inequality and oppression in a society. This
chapter has discussed a new approach for studying ruling-class masculinities
by using life histories, and avoiding the problems revealed in the literature.
180 Getting into the Lives of Ruling-Class Men
Notes
1. Because of lack of space, I will only refer to the interviews with ruling-class men.
2. It is important to note that I share a similar racial background with the interviewees
and this affected the other two dynamics. However, racial dynamics will not be
explored in this chapter.
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14
Men Researching Violent Men:
Epistemologies, Ethics and Emotions
in Qualitative Research
Malcolm Cowburn
Introduction
Researching men who have been violent and understanding the violence
that they have committed is complex and difficult. It raises intellectual,
epistemological, ethical and emotional challenges for all researchers. This
chapter explores the particular issues for men engaging in research with
other men who have committed various acts of violence. The word ‘vio-
lence’ itself refers to a wide range of activities; generally it carries a negative
implication. Violence is bad; but then not all violence is bad, protective
defensive violence may be construed as a necessary evil. Violence within
sport is increasingly recognized as an inevitable component of many activi-
ties, whether the ‘end’ of the sport is violence (martial arts including boxing)
or whether violence becomes a necessary ‘means’ to success. Additionally,
the violences perpetrated in the name of the State, through military or other
means, are rarely named as ‘violence’. These forms of violence are gener-
ally interpersonal, but can also be genocidal or ecological; they all have
wider social impacts. The violence can be physical, psychological, emo-
tional or environmental. This chapter, however, is concerned with a narrow
field of violent activities – interpersonal violence committed by men against
women, children and other men.
Hearn (1998) highlights that most social theorizing and social science
research conducted by men does not explicitly include consideration of
how the gender of the author/researcher affects the material that is pro-
duced. This chapter reflects on the role and participation of men engaged
in researching violent men. In doing so, it aims to encourage more men
researching this area to attempt to adopt a position that Hearn (1998, p. 786)
describes as ‘critique’; from this position, men ‘ . . . critically and reflex-
ively engage with both themselves and the topic, within an emancipatory
context.’
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The online Oxford English Dictionary (OED, 2012) offers this definition of
‘ontology’: ‘The science or study of being; that branch of metaphysics con-
cerned with the nature or essence of being or existence’. It is not the purpose
of this section to engage in obscure semantic and philosophical discussion
about meaning and being; however, the word ‘essence’ opens up interest-
ing avenues for consideration. Burr (2003) identifies essentialist approaches
to ontology by their fixed view of being – those that identify a particular
essence of a person to explain how s/he ‘is’ in all circumstances; for example,
the essence of a man is his masculinity and this can be used to explain every-
thing! There is no need to repeat the analysis of the tautological thinking
underpinning this approach (see Clatterbaugh, 1998). However, exploring
the nature of being from a non-essentialist point of view can point inquiry
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into very different areas; no longer viewing being as fixed, it can be seen as
fluid and dependant on circumstances. It is something that is constructed
rather than revealed, and it is constructed through enactment, performance,
performativity or just ‘doing/being’.
According to the epistemological standpoint of the researcher the purpose
of research may be to obtain the objective (essential) ‘truth’ about partic-
ular events or it may be to understand how particular research participants
construct and interpret their stories (Franklin, 1997). The methodology asso-
ciated with the quest for objective truth is positivist and characterized by
Franklin (1997, pp. 100–101) as ‘information extraction’. The interviewer is
the catalyst for the emergence of ‘truth’ from the interviewee. This approach
to interviewing is ‘monological’ in both its epistemological perspective and
in its practical orientation (Shotter, 1993). The ‘voice’ of the research partic-
ipant emerges without the researcher ostensibly having much of an active
role. This of course cannot happen if both parties are together in the
same space. The embodied presence of a researcher (particularly her/his
sex) prompts the research participants to make assumptions about how
the conversation may be conducted (see the discussion of Coates, 2003,
below). By recognizing that two or more people are engaged in an interview,
dialogical approaches incorporate the necessity to theorize the role of the
interviewer in the creation of knowledge (Shotter, 1993): the conversation
of the parties creates what is being discussed. Dialogic approaches to qualita-
tive data collection require careful reflection on what is being created in the
interview; this requires contemplation on how the interviewer contributes to
the process (Lalor et al., 2006).
Central to this is the way in which language use is understood.
In ‘dialogical’ approaches, language is seen as constructive: the conversa-
tion of the parties creates what is being discussed (Shotter, 1993). Language
no longer represents something outside of the speakers (for example, the
true story of what the offender ‘did’); the dialogic exchange is creative
and constructive. And, of course, this process occurs within and as part
of social and cultural influences. Here the later work of the philosopher
Ludwig Wittgenstein is helpful in identifying and reflecting on the con-
structive processes that occur in qualitative research with violent men. For
Wittgenstein (1953), language is not a system of symbols representing an
outer world; it is an active and changing system in use. Within conver-
sation, Wittgenstein (1953) suggests, participants are inevitably engaged
in a variety of ways of speaking (language games) that emanate from a
variety of ways of being (forms of life). Conversation in all contexts fol-
lows a number of unexpressed but implicitly followed rules/conventions
(language games). However, language games are not merely rules for the con-
duct of conversation; they are rooted in and emerge from various contexts
within cultures. Wittgenstein called these contexts ‘forms of life’ (McGinn,
1997, p. 51).
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Forms of life are ways of being located in and part of various cultures
and sub cultures. The forms of life and associated language games that are
relevant to this chapter relate to being a man. It is recognized that being
a man can be different according to age, ethnicity, class, sexuality, faith
and (dis)ability. These intersecting identities (Walby et al., 2012) may affect
how men talk together (to date this is an under-researched area); however,
gendered recognition in particular appears to prompt certain assumptions
when men talk to each other. In the context of qualitative research, partic-
ularly men researching violent men, further examination of these language
games is essential (see, for example, Kahn et al.’s 2011 exploration of young
men in a youth team working to prevent domestic violence).
Qualitative research is underpinned by the relationship of the researcher
to the research participant, and it is through this relationship that the
research data is co-created (Connolly and Reilly, 2007). However, the rela-
tionship is not preformed and it does not ‘just happen’. It requires recogni-
tion of power differentials and the building of non-hierarchical relationships
between researcher and researched (Connolly and Reilly, 2007). Key to devel-
oping this relationship are trust, rapport and empathy. These qualities do
not exist in a cultural vacuum, but as Connolly and Reilly (2007, p. 533)
observe, are
However, these norms and expectations are not always common to all
groups, and in researching the violence of men, it is important that val-
ues and attitudes are subjected to scrutiny before/as they become part of the
developing research relationship. An issue for men researching violent men
is not to develop uncritically a research relationship that may be unwittingly
collusive with attitudes and values that support violence, but to remain open
and aware of issues that may require challenge, while also developing a pro-
ductive research relationship. Thus the position for the male researcher is
not one of unconditional positive regard but, as Hearn (1998) suggests, criti-
cally reflexive. This includes examination of both content and process issues
in the production of research.
One of the most striking features of the men’s talk . . . is its orientation to
the hegemonic norms of masculinity. In most of the conversations most
of the time, it is evident that male speakers are acting in a way that aligns
them with these dominant norms, norms which prescribe ‘acceptable’
maleness. This dominant mode of ‘being a man’ is typically associated
with ‘heterosexuality, toughness, power and authority, competitiveness
and subordination of gay men’ . . .
These research projects involved men talking in the ‘locker room’ before
and after sporting events, boys talking about sex, men meeting for a drink
and a chat and men talking about drink and violence . . . Much of this
material is more sexist and homophobic than anything I have collected.
For example, the men’s talk in my data-base does not involve explicit talk
about men’s genitalia . . . sustained talk about women in terms of body
parts . . . or fantasies about rape . . .
The language games in which male researchers and male research partici-
pants engage are clearly different and they produce very different research
data. Coates (2003, p. 197) reflects on this:
What is emerging here is a clear indication that the gender of the researcher
and the research participant are both important in determining the subse-
quent nature of the research conversation. The issue for profeminist men
researching male violence is how to sustain a research project without
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Changing the subject is not always an option or the best strategy to adopt;
elsewhere (Cowburn, 2006, 2007) I describe other strategies. For example,
in a life-history research interview where close relationships were being dis-
cussed, a male research participant said, ‘You know what women are like’, to
which I replied ‘No, what are they like?’ This strategy avoids collusion and
provides more data about the participant and his attitudes.
The account, so far, of male language games has primarily addressed
cognitive issues. Assumptions about shared interpretations are tested, con-
solidated or rejected in participating (or not) in various language games.
However, the process is not only cognitive; communication and particularly
dialogic communication is underpinned by an emotional need to connect
with another person. Ezzy (2010, p. 169) has pointed to the shortcom-
ings of the ‘dispassionate’, ostensibly objective, stance adopted by some
researchers engaged in qualitative inquiry. Such a stance, he suggests, deper-
sonalizes research participants and turns them into ‘objects’ of inquiry.
As such they are passive participants from whom information is extracted
(Franklin, 1997). For Ezzy (2010), this approach to interviewing people is
‘conquest’ – the interviewer conquers the interviewee and extracts data for
analysis. A more productive approach to interviewing, suggested by Ezzy
(2010), is to view interviews as acts of ‘communion’. This approach makes
demands of both the researcher and the researched; it ‘requires mutual recog-
nition, which acknowledges the interdependence of the researcher and the
researched’ (Ezzy, 2010, p. 169). It generates a different way of hearing the
research participant:
In undertaking research with men who have acted violently to others, the
emotional ‘framing’ is of fundamental importance. It is in many ways similar
to recognizing the theoretical and ideological components of the standpoint
from which a researcher approaches his study. It requires rigorous examina-
tion of feelings generated by the acts of violence and the man committing
those acts. The feelings are not immutable and may change as interviews
develop; the key issue is to be aware of them and how they interact with
theoretical issues. For example, I (Cowburn, 2010) describe a situation where
a research participant, remembering his neglectful and abusive childhood,
became distressed; my impulse was to offer emotional and caring support.
However, the constraints of a positivistic approach to social science and
concerns about ‘contaminating’ the data prevented me from emotionally
reaching out to the distressed man. Clearer exploration of epistemological
and emotional frames governing the research may have enabled me to offer
an ethically caring response.
Ezzy (2010, p. 163) suggests that the demands of scientific inquiry may
seriously affect the quality of interview-based research:
childhood and beyond; the violence of their offences; and the violence as
experienced by the victims. Depending on the type of research being under-
taken men may tell their life stories; often such stories feature harsh and
violent childhoods. Retelling their experiences can be distressing and the dis-
tress may be absorbed by the researcher (Connolly and Reilly, 2007). Should
the research investigate the detail of violent offending, the impact of telling
and hearing is also coupled with potential impacts of the violence on vic-
tims. The detail of planning, executing and reflecting on an act of violence
has an immense emotional impact in itself. Being aware of the victim within
the story is an additional dimension of trauma for the researcher to process.
Hesse (2002) has highlighted ‘vicarious trauma’ as being a feature experi-
enced by therapists. Connolly and Reilly (2007, p. 529) suggest that this
may also apply to those researching traumatic events, as Connolly explains
in terms of her own experience:
I became the repository for the participant’s emotions and feelings and
in some instances, I was the sole person to hear the narrative. Unlike
a psychotherapist who first hears and then assists the traumatized victim
to navigate her or his recovery process, I heard their experiences and then
was left to hold or bear their stories.
disrespectful to victims; and (c) an ethic of care perspective that would con-
sider the emotional impact of research data on people who read, hear or see
the data presented.
For example, does the detailed presentation of racist or homophobic atti-
tudes/violence enhance general understanding or (re)offend and (re)harm
particular groups? The answer to this question is, probably, ‘both’. How-
ever, in relation to understanding interpersonal violence, is it appropriate to
present the ‘voice’ of the offender, without additional comment, describing
his offences? It could be argued that to do so gives insight into violent men,
but, equally, it could be argued that merely to present the offender’s account
is to deny or ignore the experience of victims. Moreover, to present graphic
detail of offences without adequate explanation and justification may be
experienced as offensive or distressing.
Whatever decision is made in relation to the presentation of data, it
should be clear to the reader and/or the audience what sort of material
is being presented. Furthermore, there should be a clear rationale as to
why graphic material is necessary. This may help researchers to reflect on
whether the presentation of data is necessary or possibly merely gratuitous
or sensationalist.
This final section draws together the material of the chapter and considers
the implications for the research practice of men researching violent men.
These issues may be described broadly as epistemological, emotional and
practical. Inevitably, these divisions are artificial and some issues will cross
the imposed boundaries.
The chapter opened by emphasizing the need for male researchers under-
taking qualitative research with violent men to reflect on the epistemology
underpinning their practice. It was suggested that a positivist approach was
inadequate to understanding the meanings and motivations of violent men.
This therefore requires researchers to adopt a constructionist perspective and
reflect on their own contribution in co-creating interview data. In doing this,
it was suggested that researchers should adopt the epistemological position
of ‘critique’ suggested by Hearn (1998). This requires male researchers to
reflexively locate themselves, their values, ideologies and emotions in the
research process at all stages. The male researcher is actively implicated in
the data produced from interviewing violent men. One key area highlighted
was how men talk to each other. The language games of men are not ‘nat-
ural’ products of men being together; they are habitual patterned ways of
talking that reflect certain (sub)cultural ways of being (‘forms of life’). The
task for the male researcher is to be actively present in the male language
games of research involving violent men and to resist invitations to partici-
pate in misogynistic, homophobic and other offensive types of speech that
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supervisor and researcher are of the same sex, ethnicity, age or other key
identity variable will need open discussion.
• Clear research information that outlines the boundaries of confidentiality
and what will happen if a research participant indicates that they are a
risk to themselves or others (Cowburn, 2005).
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Encountering Violent Men:
Strange and Familiar
Lucas Gottzén
Introduction
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198 Encountering Violent Men: Strange and Familiar
Stranger fetishism
The stranger may not have been central, but has definitely been a recur-
ring figure in social and feminist theory (Schütz, 1944; Kristeva, 1991) since
Georg Simmel’s (1908) classic essay. According to Simmel (1908, p. 188),
the stranger is a contradictory figure: he is ‘near and far at the same time’.
The stranger is not completely excluded from the community, but part of
the group while to some extent on the outside. If the stranger would be
completely excluded and not recognizable, Simmel argues it would rather be
characterized as a non-relationship. It is in this tension between being part
of the group, but to some extent an outsider, that ‘strangeness’ is produced.
In Strange Encounters Sara Ahmed (2000) develops this idea of the stranger’s
ambivalent social position. The stranger is, according to Ahmed, someone
we have already recognized the moment we see him. Strangers are not the
ones that are misrecognized in a particular area, but those in our neighbour-
hood that have already been recognized as not belonging, as being ‘out of
place’ (Ahmed, 2000, p. 21). Ahmed reinterprets Althusser’s (1971) interpel-
lation model, where the policeman hails a person on the street, and argues
that recognition is crucial in this process of subjectivation. She imagines that
the policeman’s hailing alters depending on who is addressed, and how and
what this person is recognized as. The hailing as a form of recognition that
constitutes the subject can thus serve as a way to differentiate between sub-
jects, by addressing ‘suspicious’ and ‘familiar’ differently. By pointing out
strangers we also say something about who we think belongs to us; recogni-
tion of strangers produces what and who ‘we’ are. However, Ahmed (2000)
argues that the stranger is often fetishized, in that social relationships and
processes underlying estrangement are obscured, in particular processes of
inclusion and exclusion; that is, why and how some are acknowledged as
belonging and others are (mis)recognized. As a product of neoliberalism,
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felt vulnerable, which in part had to do with the interviews being conducted
at the various treatment centres I collaborated with. Usually, there were at
least one or two therapists on the premises during the interviews. The treat-
ment centre was also a place where the man felt relatively comfortable, since
he had participated in the program for some time. A few times the interviews
were conducted in the evenings after the staff had gone home. I could have
felt vulnerable at these occasions, but it was rather during some interviews
conducted in the daytime (and with staff on site) that I experienced men as
threatening.
One case was during an interview with 26-year-old Henrik, who was a
drug addict. I do not think he was ‘high’ when I met him, but he told me
that he had recently been charged with drug possession and was waiting
for his sentence. During the interview he spoke intensely as we sat close to
each other in the therapist’s tiny office. It was difficult to communicate with
him, which I presume was partly due to his addiction. On several occasions
when he did not agree with me, or talked about someone that upset him,
he got enraged, sat up in his chair, waved his arms, talked louder and stared
intensely at me. I was afraid that he would direct his anger at me, so I became
careful not to pose any more questions that could be experienced by him as
provoking. And it was a comfort to know that there were people in the offices
next door.
Safety precautions are often necessary, and it would be naive to think that
it is not dangerous to interview violent men, as others’ and my experiences
suggest. However, putting safety measures into effect can produce certain
consequences. I would argue that while the researcher is protected, precau-
tions identify the informant as threatening and dangerous in advance. He
is already recognized as a violent man. This prior positioning is somewhat
contradictory to feminist research that has shown how abusers often are
controlled and calculated in their violence, and want to present themselves
as ‘good’ men to others and keep their violence in private (Hearn, 1998).
Moreover, there is a risk that the informant does not feel confident enough
to open up and share his experiences if he has been recognized as threaten-
ing, since it may be a definition he does not want to embrace (Gadd, 2004).
While our gaze attempts to define him as a violent man, we must realize, if
following Ahmed (2000), that the interviewee is more than the temporary
fixation at the interview.
I had reason to change my opinion about Henrik when, more than a year
after the interview, I contacted him again. He was now calm, friendly, com-
pliant and not as aggressive as at our first encounter. This was probably
due to the fact that he had been ‘clean’ for about a year. I cannot (and
do not want to) say anything about whether Henrik had ‘really’ become
less aggressive in his close relationships, but the two encounters with him
were radically different. While after the first interview I saw him as some-
thing of an archetypical violent addict, I had to re-evaluate my opinion after
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our second encounter. One could also understand the difference of the two
meetings in relation to the fact that at the latter, I positioned him as an
acquaintance that could help me (to get in contact with another informant),
while at the first meeting I interviewed him as an offender.
I must admit that I had many prejudices before starting my fieldwork. The
fact is that I was to some extent drawn to the subject because violence against
women was strange to me. I had some prior understanding of domestic abuse
through my limited reading of feminist and social science research, as well as
from what I had heard from friends involved in the women’s shelter move-
ment. But I was particularly influenced by media representations of woman
batterers, where they often were more or less portrayed as monsters.
Depicting violent offenders as monstrous can be understood as a form of
stranger fetishism. According to Ahmed (2000), the most monstrous violent
man is probably the paedophile. He is a stranger that has to be excluded
from our neighbourhoods in order to keep our children safe (Ahmed, 2000).
Paedophiles are dangerous figures considered to come from outside the fam-
ily, which obscures the fact that relatives and acquaintances are conducting
most child sexual abuse. The woman batterer can be understood in a simi-
lar fashion: he is a ‘monster underneath’, a stranger passing as a husband,
father and lover instead of being understood as ‘a husband exercising the
power that is already legitimated through hegemonic forms of masculinity’
(Ahmed, 2000, p. 36). The violent man is in other words a stranger who
infringes the ideal home. He is not seen as a part of everyday, patriarchal
relations.
One of the first things that struck me when I started talking with the
men was that they had more or less the same understanding of the violent
offender. They all saw violence against women as morally reprehensible and
something that was carried out by cold and brutal perpetrators against pas-
sive and vulnerable victims. They did not, however, recognize themselves
in this category. Many men told me that they had beaten their girlfriends
for a long period of time before ‘realizing’ that they had been violent. This
insight can be said to be an encounter with the woman batterer as a radically
strange man. Filip, 26 years old, says:
Since woman battering is sort a pretty charged word sort of and it’s really
negatively charged and I thought more like ‘fuck’. It was like the sense of
looking down a precipice you know. ‘Shit what the fuck? What the fuck
is?’ You know, you feel like losing your balance for a while. It’s sort of ‘am
I that?’ you know. It’s like I had to re-evaluate my self-image in some way.
help. Often they did nothing until their partner finally decided to leave,
or the police or social services intervened. At most treatment centres I vis-
ited, the men initially attended individual therapy sessions with the aim of
starting group treatment as soon as possible. Faced with the idea of start-
ing in a group with other violent men was challenging. Many men told me
how they initially had differentiated between themselves and the other men,
between the violence they exercised and the violence others exercised. The
other men’s violence was seen as more extensive and systematic than their
own. They had been violent only a few times while the other men were
recognized as ‘proper’ woman batterers.
In the interviews, most men were willing to admit their use of violence,
and, on a general level their responsibility for their violence. This was partly
a result of having attended therapy for some time and coming to some sort
of understanding of their problems. They were also able to recount their
assaults in detail, something they often did in their group sessions. When
asked to give evaluations of their violence, however, they gave much respon-
sibility to either their partner, or to internal or external circumstances, as
for instance 36-year-old Erik. He argues that his violence in a previous rela-
tionship ‘partly’ was his girlfriend’s fault since she made him jealous. When
asking him, he explains:
Yeah, she was flirting with her ex and [. . .] my mind snapped when she
told me that they had dinner together and he had used our tanning bed
and all that, and that she washed him. Then I just lost my head.
man in difficult circumstances that on some occasions has been forced to use
violence against his partners. I am not convinced that an accounts analysis
helps me to capture an emic perspective; instead Erik continues to be just as
incomprehensible as my prejudice against violent men.
But how can I go beyond pointing out Erik as an unintelligible stranger?
One strategy is to take a psycho-social perspective and present his rather
problematic history (Jefferson, 1997). I could then mention how he was bul-
lied throughout his childhood, but finally decided to fight back and how
that taught him that violence solves most problems. I could also talk about
his unemployment, illness, obesity, homelessness and low self-esteem, and
how his violence could be seen as a way to defend his fragile identity. This
form of analysis seems sympathetic and can be fruitful, but runs the risk
of presenting yet another account – now located in his childhood or some-
where else in his background – that explains and, to some extent, justifies
his violence.
While an analysis of his accounts reproduces his estrangement, a psycho-
social approach seems to render him comprehensible at the expense of
creating an ‘excuse’ for his violence. The problem with these two method-
ological approaches are that when we let our readers encounter violent men
we either present them as victims of their circumstances and a reified ‘mas-
culinity’ (McCarry, 2007), or fixating them as violent men with no other
subject position. This is a conundrum for much (pro)feminist masculinity
research. As Jeff Hearn (2012) has pointed out, the aim is to make men visi-
ble as gendered beings while also deconstructing their privilege. In order to
carry out this task I argue that we need to move beyond the individual man
and his accounts and study the social and cultural processes that produce
him and his statements. This includes both highlighting the man’s other
social positions – recognizing that he is more than simply a violent man
and that his violence is set within everyday gender and class divisions – but
also focusing on the position he is given in the particular interview and the
narratives produced. Moreover, it includes analysing the researcher’s posi-
tion when writing about Erik and other violent men. How do I position
myself when writing about Erik? What happens with ‘me’ when I ‘reveal’
that Erik is minimizing his violence? In my narrative, the reader does not
only encounter Erik but me as well. The story about Erik, as well as my other
representations of violent men, may serve as a way to enact myself as a self-
conscious researcher that could place me beyond men’s oppressive practices
(Ahmed, 2004). I then obscure that I am part of a norm that I critically
examine. By presenting Erik’s accounts, I position him as an unintelligible
Other, while I appear as a gender-equal, non-violent researcher. I fixate his
multiple subjectivities into a coherent, stable identity by removing all com-
plexity in a similar fashion that my informants reduce other men to ‘proper’
woman batterers, which in itself is a ‘mundane sort of violence’ (Butler,
1994, p. 9).
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Introduction
This chapter considers ways to involve older gay men in research, reflecting
upon the experience gained through two projects involving older gay men in
group experiences. In both projects, male participants were keen to become
involved in opportunities to meet and cooperate as groups, and relished the
opportunity to come together to share their experiences. This chapter will
explore why tools such as participatory action research and focus groups
are appealing to older gay men as methods for sharing their experiences.
It will consider how older gay men make use of the group experience, and
the benefit this brings to an overall research project.
Background
When considering why and how older gay men become involved in research
projects, it is important to contextualize their lives within wider historical
and social contexts (Clunis et al., 2005). Life events and societal approaches
towards homosexuality will have sculpted both individual and group iden-
tity. Many grew up when homosexuality was still illegal and criminalized,
and as a consequence they may have masked their sexual orientation, and
lived in fear of homophobia (Fredriksen-Goldsen and Muraco, 2010). For
older gay men, identity is not only influenced by their sexual orientation,
but also mediated by a myriad of other social locations. As a result, they may
be silenced by multiple levels of discrimination including ageism, heterosex-
ism and homophobia (LeCompte, 1993), and hidden identities may result in
higher levels of personal, social and geographic isolation (McCarthy, 2000;
Boulden, 2001; D’Augelli and Grossman, 2001; Beard and Hissam, 2002;
Fenge and Jones, 2011). Normative notions of masculinity are strongly tied
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210 Involving Older Gay Men in Research
Many older gay men have negotiated their identity within a heteronorma-
tive, family-based society. As non-heterosexuals, gay men have lived outside
of the traditional supports for identity and relationships (Weeks et al., 2001),
and have needed to find support and connections within their own commu-
nity or family of choice. Social connectedness is important to the experience
of individual well-being and has been demonstrated to be beneficial in times
of stress (Cohen, 2004), and fellowship groups for older gay men in the
United States have been described as ‘affective fellowship’, providing social
support to often isolated individuals (Shokeid, 2001).
Social dimensions of well-being include a sense of belonging, and can be
linked to notions of social capital and social contacts that give support (Gray,
2008). Providing opportunities for older gay men to share their experiences
through a research or community group offers opportunities for individuals
to pool their social capital and develop resilience through connectivity with
others. Equally important is the opportunity to come together as a commu-
nity of storytellers. Focus groups offer situations in which personal narratives
Kip Jones and Lee-Ann Fenge 211
are intertwined with identities and communities (Plummer, 1995), and can
be an important tool as the discursive nature of the focus group allows
older gay men to validate their narratives as well as explore new networking
possibilities.
Being part of a group, be it an informal support group or a research focus
group, brings individuals together for a common purpose. Focus groups
can encourage discussion around ‘sensitive’ issues, and have been used to
explore end of life experiences of older LGB (Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual)
people and bereavement within same sex relationships (Almack et al., 2010),
and the nature of stress for lesbians and gay men (Iwasaki and Ristock, 2007).
Focus groups offer the opportunity to share narratives and engage in inter-
pretative practices through which social realities are constructed. For gay
men, this may involve negotiating the socially constructed negative view of
homosexuality, and the influence this has had on their identity across their
life course.
The following sections will explore the involvement of older gay men
in two research projects. The first embraced a participatory action research
methodology to work with a group of older lesbians and gay men for three
years to explore their experiences of ageing (Gay and Grey Project, 2006;
Fenge, 2010). The second (Fenge et al., 2010; Fenge and Jones, 2011) built
on the themes emerging from the first project, and focused on how ‘coming
out’ narratives are used as a way of negotiating identity over the life course.
The Gay and Grey project was a joint initiative between a voluntary agency
working with older people in Dorset, and Bournemouth University, funded
for three years by the Big Lottery Fund. The project was among the very first
in the United Kingdom to undertake participative action research (PAR) with
older lesbians and gay men. PAR has been used effectively with other groups
of marginalized people to support social justice and to promote the voices of
these groups (Cahill, 2007; Etowa et al., 2007), and it was therefore felt to be
an appropriate method when working with older LGB people who may have
experienced lifelong discrimination. PAR was used to support and facilitate
older lesbians and gay men’s engagement in research about their experiences
of social exclusion and marginalization.
A core group of up to 20 volunteers was involved in the project, and they
were self-identified non-heterosexuals, aged between 55 and 85 years. The
project aimed to
(1) Identify factors and issues that may contribute to older lesbian and gay
exclusion from the wider community, the gay community itself and
from the support, services and activities available, and
(2) Identify how these issues could be addressed.
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There was some kind of assumption that men’s and women’s issues were
different. This turned out to be wrong actually; there was a difference
certainly . . . but the fears, needs, aspirations and expectations were very
much the same – and we fairly quickly re-thought the idea of separatism
and re-grouped.
(Fenge et al., 2009, p. 517)
From the very beginning of the project it became apparent that there
was a great need for some way of helping older gay men in the outlying
areas of the county get in touch with and socially interact with their
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peers . . . . Some of these men were very disappointed when they learned
that it was not, strictly speaking, within the remit of the project and there
was a fair amount of drop-out among the male volunteers as a result.
(Fenge et al., 2009, p. 156)
Those volunteers that remained with the project readily took on ‘outreach’
roles and raised the profile of the project with agencies across health- and
social-care sectors. Some volunteers also spent a considerable amount of
effort trying to set up a social structure for those men who wanted to share
their experiences with other gay men in a group. As a result, some facilitated
small groups were set up in more rurally isolated parts of the local area,
and through these meetings the volunteers tried to encourage members to
take ownership and responsibility for organizing events among themselves.
These smaller groups provided a safe haven for older gay men to share their
collective experiences within a supportive environment. This aspect may be
particularly important for gay men who are ageing with stigma attached to
both old age and homosexuality (Slevin, 2008).
What became evident through the project was that multiple forms of mas-
culinity and identity exist and these are produced by the intersections of
various factors including class, ethnicity, age, sexuality and location. Older
gay men can be both ‘advantaged and disadvantaged by these interlocking
systems of power and oppression’ (Slevin and Linnemann, 2010, p. 484).
Some men who were attracted to the project were ‘out’ and happy to share
this with other people as part of the roles they took during the project. Oth-
ers wanted to remain hidden, after living a lifetime with fear and stigma, and
were looking for a ‘safe’ group to join. To a certain extent, the project offered
a place for these different needs to be met. Through the ‘social’ group, older
gay men were able to meet on a regular basis for support, and through
a range of activities those wanting to change policy and practice became
involved in research and practice development.
The project seemed to attract individuals who wanted a ‘group’ experience
where they could share a feeling of solidarity with each other, and validate
their identities and masculinities as older gay men through a shared history
and understanding. Such natural groups or social networks appeared to be
missing from their lives, and some volunteers readily joined the project in
the hope that it would fill this void. It was disappointing that, despite a good
deal of effort from the volunteers in terms of establishing ‘social’ groups for
isolated older gay men, the groups were not self-sustaining, and soon ended
when the project itself concluded.
The Gay and Pleasant Land? project began with two points of interest result-
ing from the Gay and Grey project: first, ‘coming out’ stories seemed to be a
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pervasive coping device used by participants in the study; and second, little
was known about older gay lives and experiences of those gay citizens who
may be geographically isolated in rural settings.
Through an exploration of the recollections, perceptions and storied
biographies of older lesbians and gay men and their rural experiences, the
Gay and Pleasant Land? project focused on connectivity and the inter-
sections between place, space, age and identity, and the life course that
describes those past connections. As part of the overarching Grey and Pleas-
ant Land? group of studies on ageing in rural south-west England and Wales
under the national UK research programme, New Dynamics of Ageing, ‘con-
nectivity’ was a central concept in developing an understanding of how
sense of belonging may be negotiated within a rural context. The umbrella
Grey and Pleasant Land? project investigated the key ways in which older
people are connected to their rural communities; that is, culturally, socially,
economically and technologically, and, through these, examined older peo-
ple’s involvement in civic life. ‘Connectivity’ can be understood vis-à-vis
the Gay and Pleasant Land? project as the ways in which individuals iden-
tify and connect themselves with others and the ways in which this may
be filtered by aspects of their age and sexuality. Identity and the ways in
which older gay men chose to disclose their sexuality as part of their identity
exerts an influence on the particular ways in which these individuals made
such connections. Biography was seen as a retrospective way in which to
explore the lifespan and the way in which memory constructs and influences
present-day connectivity.
The emerging recollections, perceptions and storied biographies of older
gay citizens and their rural experiences formed the bulk of the data gathered
and the basis for story and characterization of a short professionally made
film, Rufus Stone (2012), the main output of the project. Although older les-
bians were equally included in the study, it was the stories told by older gay
men, individually and in groups, which mainly informed the Project Team
in the creation of the story for the film, using composite characters as a liter-
ary device, or a ‘fictive’ reality (Jones, 2012b). Fictive reality is conceived as
the ability to engage in imaginative and creative invention while remaining
true to the remembered realities as told by participants in a study. A similar
incident or report may be told by several participants through the research
process. When these reports are combined into one person’s story, a ‘fiction’
is born. Second, when writing the script, the characters ‘take over’, another
device of fiction writing. At all times during the writing of the story and
script for the film, however, shuttling back and forth to the raw interview
data was key.
The project’s main aim was to empower both older lesbians and gay men
in rural areas through a collaborative multi-method participatory action
research design, which embraced the principles of a Performative Social Sci-
ence (Jones, 2006) in its dissemination plan. The film was made in order to
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Methods
A range of methods was used to generate the storied biographies of older gay
citizens about their rural experiences. These included in-depth biographic
life story interviews (BNIM) (Jones, 2001, 2004a) and actual site visits to the
rural locations where older gay citizens were living. Sifting through the ini-
tial raw data from the interviews, certain questions remained unanswered;
others begged to be fleshed out. Some crucial points were raised in the
interviews, but not elaborated upon by the participants. It was decided to
organize a focus group or ‘coffee morning’ in order to focus more specif-
ically on these remaining questions and expand upon the richness of the
individual interviews. What had become clear from our biographic inter-
views was that it was not so important that participants currently resided in
the countryside, but rather, that they had experience of rural living at some
point over the life course. Migration had been a typical occurrence in the
life stories for all but one of the individuals we interviewed. We also opened
the focus group up to younger (50+) participants who were gay and had
experience of rural living.
The national UK Gay News picked up the story and publicized the coffee
morning, creating wider interest in participation. Except for one lesbian who
was already coming for an individual interview at the time, the focus group
ended up consisting of men, probably due to the Gay News’ circulation. The
discussions were lively and informative, bringing personal experiences and
details to the mix of queries, which proved helpful to the development of
the story for the film. What impressed the organizers most, however, was
how this opportunity for (mostly) men to gather, ‘tell tales’ and converse,
seemed really important to them – a unique and valued experience. At the
end of the morning, it was as though they did not want this seemingly rare
opportunity for informal interaction to end. In every case, from the initial
in-depth interviews, to the site visits and finally in the focus group, these
gay men seemed particularly willing – even proud – to be contributing to
our study. Involvement in the project was perceived as giving the tales from
their life stories a sense of legitimacy – stories that often have been kept
hidden from or silent in their local, often rural, communities. Open-ended
probes focused, nonetheless, on particular areas where stories, which we had
heard needed to be fleshed out:
• How open are you/were you about being gay to neighbours and other
people in the village?
• How do people treat you differently because you are gay or when they
suspect that you are different?
• How do services (doctors, nurses, social services and so on) treat you
differently?
• How do you/did you maintain friendships with other gay people in the
countryside?
• What is the worst thing that has ever happened to you because you are
gay? What is the best thing?
• How has growing older made a difference in the place that you live?
Or how has the place that you live made a difference in growing
older?
Guy, a taxi driver in his late 50s, was the youngest participant in the focus
group, and it was interesting to note that his stories were eagerly listened
to by the other older participants. Perhaps Guy’s tales represented possible
alternative concepts of masculinity not perceived as available to the older
generation of gay men? When he spoke at the Coffee Morning about his
interactions through his job, Guy’s presentation and style seemed to indicate
to the group that things, indeed, were changing:
I’m a taxi driver um, in D . . . , which is a pretty ‘butch’ job, had to take
the jewelry off and stop the make-up . . .
∗
group laughter∗
But I, um, but I was a taxi driver for 13 years and I thought perhaps
I can do a little bit of good here, um, perhaps I can, um, perhaps if I say
who I am, um, people can see I’m, I don’t I’m not particularly camp,
not the stereotypical gay man, and if people can see that gay people are
just ordinary and then perhaps I’m doing a little bit of good, and as it
turned out I was able to . . . and it became Guy the gay taxi driver rather
than Guy the nice taxi man . . . . I was also the catalyst for other gay men
um unfortunately as a taxi driver working at night you get propositioned
um and I had um young lads proposition me . . . very flattering . . . um um
because they thought this was the only way to make contact with some-
one that was gay . . . just to simply chat to these guys from the villages
just to say ‘look you know um you don’t have to sort of you know offer
yourself to someone um just to have a chat with them um let’s have a
chat let’s talk about things’ . . . . There was a regular lad who I used to pick
up went to G . . . um and er we got talking and he was able to sort himself
Kip Jones and Lee-Ann Fenge 217
Following the interviews and citizen panel analyses of the data (see Jones,
2001, 2004a) and the subsequent focus group, conversations (rather than
formal meetings) were carried out by the project’s researchers and its advi-
sory committee consisting of active older gay citizens and representatives of
service providers. The researchers and volunteers sifted over the materials
and stories, suggesting possible plot lines, turns and twists, and contributed
to the development of the main characters – always constantly shuttling
back and forth to and from the research data itself.
Eventually, a dramatic arc began to emerge for the film’s story and its
inhabitants. At this stage, the project director began writing Rufus Stone
(2012) as a story on his weblog (Jones, 2012c). This resulted in the ‘treat-
ment’ for the film that was then handed over to the film’s director who wrote
the final script, always in consultation with the Project Director to ensure
accuracy with the research findings and to maintain the purpose intended
from the outset of the Project.
The project lead and author of the story for the film, Kip Jones, reflects:
happened’ (Reisz, 2012). In the end, the film renders poetically the way in
which our memories morph and play with our histories, much as dappled
sunlight reveals, then conceals, an idyllic landscape.
Josh Appignanesi, the film’s director, outlines the story of Rufus Stone
(2012):
The story dramatizes the old and continued prejudices of village life from
three main perspectives. Chiefly it is the story of Rufus, an ‘out’ older gay
man who was exiled from the village as a youth and reluctantly returns
from London to sell his dead parents’ cottage, where he is forced to con-
front the faces of his estranged past. Of these, Abigail is the tattle-tale who
‘outed’ Rufus 50 years ago when he spurned her interest. She has become
a lonely deluded lush. Flip, the boy Rufus adored, has also stayed in the
village: a life wasted in celibacy (occasionally interrupted by anonymous
sexual encounters) and denial [who is] looking after his elderly mother.
But Rufus too isn’t whole, saddled with an inability to return or forgive.
Key findings
Further outputs
Conclusion
Project Lead, Kip Jones, recalls a moment of hope and the possibility of
attitudes changing among younger generations:
A phrase that is well over one hundred years old is often repeated by some
members of an older generation that seems incapable at times of even
tolerating diversity in their midst. When a Victorian actor showed too
much affection for the leading man, actress Mrs. Patrick Campbell replied:
‘My dear, I don’t care what they do, so long as they don’t do it in the street
and frighten the horses’. The fact that a Victorian attitude frozen in time
220 Involving Older Gay Men in Research
The line ‘We don’t care what you do as long as you don’t do it in the road
and frighten the horses’ is included in the script of Rufus Stone (2012). It is
delivered in a speech excusing village attitudes, even making light of a plea
for compassion. In the next scene, the lead character discovers that his boy-
hood friend has just hanged himself. The point of this juxtaposition in the
storyline is to emphasize that what we say often does have consequences,
often serious ones.
Now for some good news. Between takes of the scene described above,
I was waiting with some of the young crew, sheltering ourselves from a
sudden shower behind a van packed with leads and sundry cinematic
equipment. The boom operator, Dan, fresh from film school with an
unbridled enthusiasm for his role, facetiously quizzed me: ‘So Kip. Are
horses afraid of gay people?’
We all laughed.
‘It is less painful to learn in youth than to be ignorant in age’ – Proverb.
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Interviewing Older Men Online
Miranda Leontowitsch
Introduction
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and not as relevant to themselves (Neven, 2010). The changes to later life
and ageing are central to understanding why older people are increasingly
rejecting the political economy and physical decline narrative (Phoenix and
Smith, 2011), and as a consequence old-age assistive technologies.
Increased healthy life expectancy and the greater resources available to
retirees has in turn led to the emergence of the ‘third age’ (Laslett, 1989;
Gilleard and Higgs, 2005), as a phase of life past employment and child
rearing, in which self-fulfilment is achieved through travel, education and
finding new social roles. This is seen as a period of life where the empha-
sis can be on different forms of self-fulfilment and activity rather than
on indolence and worthlessness. As successive cohorts of post-war adults
have retired, they have taken a ‘generational habitus’ with them and cre-
ated a more and more expansive third age based upon relative affluence
and extended opportunities for the development of lifestyles that emphasize
choice, autonomy and self-expression (Gilleard and Higgs, 2000; 2005).
Given these changed parameters, older people are more likely to engage
with and use technology in a way that will enhance their active ageing
lifestyle, as well as help them to stay active and connected. However, the
technology that allows older people to do that is not the specially developed
‘assistive’ technology, but the mainstream technology that so often is only
associated with younger age groups. A three-year ethnographic study inves-
tigating how groups of older people in Spain learnt to use email in adult
education classes (Sayago and Blatt, 2010), supports this position. One of
the central findings was that participants relished the possibility of commu-
nicating and using technology the same way as younger people did. Despite
being slower at writing emails or adding attachments, participants rejected
alternative, ‘assistive’ devices: ‘They use their glasses instead of large font
size and reject input ethnography devices alternative to the mouse, since
they want to use ICT in a similar way to their social circles’ (Sayago and
Blatt, 2010, p. 117).
Moreover, attending classes on using email proved a learning opportunity
they either had not had in many years, or had no longer expected at their
age (especially for those with low educational attainment). Email allowed
them to be in contact with children, grandchildren and friends more regu-
larly than face-to-face or telephone contact (Sayago and Blatt, 2010, p. 117).
These ideas reflect the notion of the ‘third age’ as an arena for education,
self-fulfilment as well as familiar and social connectedness. Two further qual-
itative studies by Xie (2005) and Malta (2012) also show how older people
use email and how it allows them to be connected with other people both
online and offline. Xie (2005) found that users of SeniorNet in the United
States (an online and offline community providing older people with access
to and education in ICT) expanded the aim of the service beyond educa-
tion and used the SeniorNet email to organize social gatherings. Strikingly,
she found a very similar development among older people in Shanghai who
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used OldKids (also offering offline and online ICT education). Malta’s (2012)
research investigated dating and courtship in later life. The study did not
start with an online focus; however, she soon realized that it was easier
to recruit potential participants by finding them online. Moreover, the call
for participation in her study received more interest and responses by older
people on an all-age dating website than from a senior-specific one.
These research studies show that there is little to suggest that older peo-
ple are unwilling to use new technological skills if they provide a tangible
benefit to their lives. In addition, it is probable that the current grey digital
divide is merely a generational phenomenon that will disappear over time
as the next generation of older people spends more of their working lives
and recreational time surrounded by ICT (Morris, 2007; Gilleard and Higgs,
2008).
group, and so were Sayago and Blatt (2010). There has been little to no
research specifically on the role of ICT in the lives of older men. This is sur-
prising as technology is often seen as something within the male domain,
ostensibly supporting masculinity. Indeed, there is some evidence to suggest
that men and women over the age of 55 use the Internet for different pur-
poses and in gendered ways. In a literature review on the grey digital divide,
Morris (2007) draws on UK research that indicates that men are more likely
to use the Internet for finding information and pursuing hobbies, whereas
women tend to exploit ICT for communicating with friends and family.
A UK case study of a nonagenarian and his computer by Watkins (2006)
provides rich insight into how ICT can transform an older man’s life.
Through observations and interviews involving the nonagenarian (Doug)
and family members, Watkins describes how Doug used ICT for a broad vari-
ety of purposes. Once again email emerged as a very central tool, allowing
Doug to be in contact with family members and friends on a daily basis. Fam-
ily members commented that email was an easier communication method as
it avoided many misunderstandings that had occurred over the phone. Doug
reported that using ICT allowed him to be part of contemporary society and
not a passive technophobic older person. This led him to neglect people who
did not have an email address, which meant that he was having increasingly
less face-to-face contact but more online contact. Despite this technological
independence, Doug relied on personal support when his computer was not
working, which was provided by a family member. However, any enforced
time away from his computer (such as hospitalization or technical faults)
was experienced as stressful. Although these are the experiences of one man,
they resonate with the findings of the qualitative research reported on so far.
Moreover, it suggests that a wealth of insight into older men’s lives is still to
be uncovered, and that ICT can provide a platform from which to conduct
such research.
There are two ways in which ICT can be used in qualitative research: it
can either be used as a research tool for sampling and data collection; or
it provides the research focus (online communities, for example). The latter
approach calls for qualitative methods to be used online in order to preserve
what Mann and Stewart (2003) have referred to as the ‘contextual natural-
ness’. This allows participants to communicate in the setting and way they
are used to. Thus, qualitative interviews online can be required for different
methodological reasons, and can be conducted by using instant messaging,
email, or video-based technology, either one-to-one or in groups.
Instant messaging (IM) is a synchronous computer-mediated communi-
cation between two or more people using client programs such as MSN
Messenger, or Skype (among many more). This medium has proven very
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popular since the later 1990s, though generally associated with a young
user group. IM is only possible between users of the same programme. The
researcher may therefore either need to use multiple programmes, or ask par-
ticipants to use a certain programme. In contrast, email is an asynchronous
method of online communication, as significant amount of time can elapse
between sending and receiving messages. Both communication methods can
take place publically (social networks or email lists, for instance) or semi-
privately (via personal accounts). Given the nature of the Internet a fully
private communication, such as afforded by face-to-face meetings, is not
possible. The semi-privacy of online interviews poses a challenge as elec-
tronic recordings of the interview exist in multiple locations (such as user
accounts and software providers, or website moderators) (Kazmer and Xie,
2008). For ethical reasons, it is important to inform participants about this
reduced level of anonymity and confidentiality (Grinyer, 2007). All further
considerations regarding the use of IM and email as interview tools will be
imbedded within a reflection of my own research experience.
Researching retirement
My experiences of interviewing older men online are part of a research study
that started with 20 face-to-face interviews with 18 men and 2 women from
higher executive positions who had chosen to take early retirement. The
study explored the participants’ reasons for taking early retirement and their
experiences of early retirement (Jones et al., 2010). Participants were sampled
through The Retired Executive Action Clearing House (REACH), a voluntary
organization that matches charities with retirees from professional back-
grounds, by snowball sampling, and through the Life Academy that offers
courses on planning for retirement. Potential participants needed to have
retired by the age of 57. Some participants were interviewed shortly after
retiring; others had been retired for several years. The age range of the final
sample was 49–66. Six years after the last interview was conducted, my col-
leagues and I are revisiting the participants for a second wave of interviews
to find out how they have fared in the interim. Longitudinal qualitative
research is still emerging as a methodology (Farrall, 2006) and is there-
fore rare, although it provides insights into participants’ experiences and
understandings that go beyond the snapshot approach of one-off interviews.
For the second interviews, we decided to change the way the interviews
would be conducted, and this was done for a variety of reasons. At a prac-
tical level, there were the issues of costs for travelling and transcribing. The
participants from the first set of interviews had been recruited from across
England. Although the first wave of the study had had some funding to cover
travel expenses, the second wave does not. In addition, interviews conducted
via IM and email produce automatic transcript as the communication is text
based. Transcribing is both cost- and time-intensive, and given the lack of
funding, we decided that transcribing should be kept to a minimum. Beyond
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I am sorry to say that the idea of instant email or Skype is a complete non-
starter for me . . . You may find some retired people who are into this kind
of modern communication but I would think they will be in a minority.
I can speak on the telephone or at a meeting and do traditional emails
etc., but I refuse to get involved with Skype, Twitter or Facebook etc.
(Participant 1)
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I think that my slow and shaky typing skills probably make instant
messaging the least effective interview method personally, but I am happy
to use face to face or email, whichever you prefer. Just select the method
that is most convenient to yourself.
(Participant 2)
His reluctance to use IM highlights how the instant transcript, that is of such
benefit to the researcher, comes at the price of the participant who is required
to do the majority of the typing instead of the person who would ordinarily
transcribe an audio-interview (Kazmer and Xie, 2008). However, the quo-
tation also shows how willing he was to use another method that would
suit me. This resonates with the altruistic reasons Mann and Stewart (2003)
describe for why people take part in online interview research. In addition, it
resonates with the ‘gentleman-like behaviour’ in interviews with older men
that I have identified elsewhere (Leontowitsch, 2012).
However, a further participant responded in yet another way. His answer
to the first reconnecting email I sent, in which neither IM or email had been
mentioned, was very proactive: ‘I am very busy at the moment and do not
have the time for an interview. If you would like to conduct the interview
by email, I would be quite happy to assist’ (Participant 3). The quotation
chimes with the discussion provided in the first part of the chapter of how
later life has become more active. Moreover, the participant comes across as
somebody who is not a passive recipient of younger generations’ requests,
but somebody who requests a contemporary method that will suit him and
his busy later life schedule.
Malta (2012) reports that some of her participants, who agreed to be
interviewed via IM, relished the opportunity to learn a new ICT skill.
This openness to extending technological knowledge was also apparent
in another response I received: ‘I’m happy to experiment with instant
messaging “tho” I haven’t used it before. I do use Skype for verbal com-
munications but have only just got the camera which I haven’t used yet’
(Participant 8).
Thus far the responses have shown that participants are open towards
being interviewed online, but that it is important to provide a choice of
methods.
(2003) have pointed out, email interviews tend to result in much shorter
documents than IM transcripts. This is put down to the interactive nature
of IM, which mirrors an offline conversation, and the asynchronous nature
of attached email interviews where the conversational ebb and flow is lost
(Malta, 2012, p. 166). However, as Meho (2006) argues, email interviews
afford participants the time to be more reflective in their replies, thereby
editing responses that make for more focused answers. Moreover, due to
the nature of the method it is acceptable for researchers to follow up inter-
views with questions. These follow-up emails also mean that the interview
gradually grows and becomes further refined and embellished. When outlin-
ing how the second interview may be conducted, I ask participants whether
they would agree to be contacted after the interview for further questions
that might arise from their responses. So far none of the participants have
objected to this or avoided it. Indeed, one participant sent me a follow-up
email before I was able to send a question:
Conclusion
Research on ageing men with the use of ICT is still in its infancy. This chapter
set out to show how ICT is becoming an increasingly important part of
later life and therefore should not be ignored in ageing research. Moreover,
ICT (whether as a research focus or research tool) provides a vantage point
from which to gain meaningful insights into older men’s lives, which are
still largely unmapped. In addition, ICT outdoes more traditional methods
in recruiting hidden populations (Illingworth, 2001; Matthews and Cramer,
2008). Although older men are by no means a minority or hidden popula-
tion, they do appear to be a hard to reach group, and for the reasons outlined
above, have often been ignored in research.
The scope of the reflexive part of the chapter is limited due to the ongo-
ing status of the study and the characteristics of the participants, who are
all affluent and well educated, traits associated with use of ICT in later life
(Morris, 2007). Moreover, as I had interviewed participants previously, none
of the problems about verifying the identity of participants arose, nor did
issues around establishing rapport. However, embedding my experiences
within the research literature shows that IM and email are two important
methods for conducting qualitative interviews with older men. This is not
only because they encourage reflexivity and openness, but also because the
Miranda Leontowitsch 233
Note
1. In the resulting interview (conducted at his home), he explained that he saw Skype,
Twitter and Facebook as intrusive media. He had gained this understanding after
attending a local ICT class (one of several he had attended to improve his ICT skills)
that provided an introduction to social networking technology.
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Using Visual Methods to Hear Young
Men’s Voices: Discussion and
Analysis of Participant-Led
Photographic Research in the Field
Cliona Barnes
Introduction
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Cliona Barnes 237
This chapter draws from larger research focusing on the daily lives, expe-
riences and social contexts that structure and shape the understandings
and constructions of classed and gendered identities among two groups of
young, white, Irish schoolboys, from both working-class and middle-class
backgrounds in the Irish city of Limerick (Barnes, 2010). The 20 partici-
pants were aged 15 and 16 and all were in full-time, mainstream education.
The research was conducted in two co-educational schools: St Pious’ School,
located in a socially and economically deprived city neighbourhood, and
Forthill School,4 situated in a comfortable, middle-class suburb. The partici-
pants were purposively selected (Patton, 2002, p. 46) via their schools within
the research parameters of age (15–16), gender (male) and social-class back-
ground. The research fieldwork began with introductory meetings between
the researcher and two groups of potential participants at which the research
aims and process were discussed and consent and information forms read
through and distributed. At this point, the young men were informed of the
steps that would be taken to guarantee their anonymity, and of their right
to not take part, or to leave the research at any point. This was strongly
emphasized as the understanding of ‘consent’ can become conflicted where
research is conducted in a school setting. Issues around power and informed
and willing consent can and do arise where students are, in a sense, a ‘captive
sample’ (Conolly, 2008, p. 207; see also James et al., 1998, p. 176; McDowell,
2003, p. 110, p. 237). In this instance, every effort was made to ensure young
men did not feel compelled to participate.
The fieldwork consisted of two recorded photo-elicitation group inter-
views that were conducted on school premises during the school day. These
were supported by a task-based photographic project, which was carried out
by the young men over a period of two weeks. The interviews were unstruc-
tured allowing for informal discussion of a range of topics related to men and
masculinities in the Irish context. Two sets of images were used, one in each
photo-elicitation interview. The first set consisted of media images selected
by the researcher, the second was made up of the photographs produced by
the young men themselves (see Heath et al., 2009, pp. 119–123 for discus-
sion of different types of visual materials). There is not scope here to discuss
the findings generated through discussion of both sets of images (Barnes,
2010); thus, in order to emphasize the quality of the engagement with this
active photography element of the research, I will focus on discussion of the
participant-generated images.
power differentials between the adult, female researcher and the young male
participants. Critical awareness of gender in the field is particularly acute
here in the context of critiques of the male-centricity of youth research
and the sometime problematic relationship constructed between the male
researcher and male participants. Delamont (2000) and Skeggs (1992) both
offer strong criticisms where the collapsing of distance between the male
researcher and young male participants occurs, leading to the researcher
falsely imagining himself to be a member of the group. In critiquing two
key studies of young masculinities, both conducted by male researchers,
Delamont (2000, p. 99) problematizes Sewell’s (1997) self-proclaimed abil-
ity to ‘chill’ with his teenaged participants, while Skeggs (1992, p. 191)
highlights Willis’ (1977) failure to challenge the sexist and racist attitudes
and behaviours demonstrated by his participants. This loss of critical focus,
Skeggs (1992) argues, arises from his absorption into the group. Indeed, his
participants describe him as ‘one of us’ (Willis, 1977, p. 197), a position
unchallenged and un-reflected upon by him. As a female researcher work-
ing with young men, ‘fictitiously dissolving the division between the self
and other’ (Back, 1993, p. 222) is simply not possible for me. A critical
awareness of our differences is present, grounded in the reflexive under-
standing shared by Packard (2008, p. 65) and McDowell (2003). As McDowell
(2003, p. 111) explains, we as researchers cannot and ‘ . . . do not belong
to the group we study, we may not know enough to ask the right ques-
tions.’ I approach young men as a cultural outsider, with demonstrably
different experiences, social knowledge and expertise. I acknowledge these
differences and the associated lack of knowing as being both positive and
productive.
Awareness of the obvious distance between us, in terms of gender, age and
power, is positive in that it prevents over-identification with participants in
the problematic ways critiqued by Delamont (2000) and Skeggs (1992). Such
over-identification is also experienced, and reflected upon, by Frosh et al.
(2002) in their study of young British masculinities. In the following extract,
Rob Pattman (Frosh et al., 2002, p. 18) describes his feelings towards one
young participant following their interview:
I felt a bit annoyed with him for the way he distinguished himself from
the ‘wrong crowd’ or the boys who played football and messed around,
and I imagined myself as one of those boys thinking he was a snob . . . I am
not sure why I felt so antagonistic to him when he mentioned saying
‘Shhh’ to those boys who spoke while the teacher was talking in class.
Surely I should admire him for having the self-confidence to be able to do
this?
boy’ that is still evident in youth research. It also highlights the difficulties
that can arise through over-familiarity and over-identification with partic-
ipants. Awareness of our differences positions me as ready to learn from
participants, actively seeking their experiences and knowledge. Accomplish-
ing this requires ways of doing research that are necessarily participatory
and genuinely inclusive. Qualitative research is informed primarily by par-
ticipants’ voices and, as such, it is dependent on the depth and quality of
their engagement with the researcher and the research process (Clark, 2008,
p. 954). Thus, it is essential that research methods are not only productive
and informative both for the researcher and participants, but also engaging,
interesting and even fun (Conolly, 2008, p. 210).
Fieldwork was designed to overcome two potential difficulties in engaging
young men in the research process. The first of these stems from the widely
shared and influential perceptions of young men as inarticulate and unwill-
ing to talk: understandings brought into, and often replicated by, young men
themselves (Frosh et al., 2002, pp. 22–24). Understanding ‘talking’ as a fem-
inized act can lead young men to feel anxious about engaging in discussion
in a serious manner, particularly in the group context that can lend itself to
performing ‘defensive versions of masculinity’ (Robb, 2007, pp. 123–124).
However, as will be discussed in more detail in relation to the analysis of
the photographs produced by the young men, this can be overcome with
appropriate methodological considerations.
Young men’s anxiety about departing from the group script of acceptable
masculinity (Barnes, 2011) is also very closely linked to the second poten-
tial issue here – that of young men’s responses to and perceptions of the
female researcher. Extensive research has been carried out into what con-
stitutes successful or hegemonic young masculinities in the school setting.
This work has powerfully demonstrated that a certain amount of resistance
to, and subversion of, the established power structures in school is a core part
of hegemonic masculinities in the classroom (Frosh et al., 2002; Francis and
Skelton, 2005; Martino and Pallotta-Chiarolli, 2005; Jackson, 2006; Barnes,
2011). Due to my age, gender and link to academia, the young men tended,
at the outset, to position me as a teacher-figure, thus, initially, replicating the
strict teacher–student hierarchy and creating the necessity for the group to
disrupt that relationship through humour, non-cooperation and distraction.
It was essential for me to undo the association of the research with school-
work, or risk non-participation in and/or resentment of the fieldwork. This
process of disassociation was initiated immediately through establishing an
informal atmosphere – normal classroom seating arrangements were aban-
doned in favour of a large table to sit around; only first names were used;
I intervened as little as possible in terms of seeking quiet and avoided asking
direct questions that could be construed as didactic. My lack of intervention
led to a certain amount of chaos at the outset, however, as the young men
realized that I was not trying (or indeed able) to ‘make’ them be quiet, they
240 Using Visual Methods to Hear Young Men’s Voices
settled of their own accord, their interest piqued by the box of cameras and
stacks of newspaper images.
Photo-elicitation
The cameras and images were part of the primary research method of photo-
elicitation. As noted, both researcher-selected (from newspapers and maga-
zines) and participant-generated photographs were used. Photo-elicitation
‘is based on the simple idea of inserting a photograph into a research
interview’ (Harper, 2002, p. 13). Images work as prompts for participants
to share their experiences and understandings. ‘Elicitation’ refers to the
way in which a photograph or image operates as a point of departure for
the interviewee (Harper, 2002). Kolb (2008) describes four stages in photo-
elicitation interviewing. The opening stage involves the introduction of
the research question to the participants as the whole process ‘invites par-
ticipants to answer a research question by taking photos and explaining
their photos to a researcher’ (Kolb, 2008, p. 3). The second stage is the
active photo-shooting stage where participants create their own images.
The third stage is the decoding stage where participants consider and dis-
cuss their images with the interviewer and the rest of the group. The final
stage is the analysis and interpretation stage where the researcher analyses
the data produced in the first three stages, including the images and tran-
scripts of the interview groups. The four stages are now discussed in more
detail.
Stage one
In the first group interview the research question was introduced via an
unstructured discussion of popular portrayals of young masculinities centred
on a series of researcher-selected media images. Following lively discus-
sion, in which the key issues raised, were the ‘unreality’ of images such as
advertising models, sportsmen and film stars and a lack of representation
of ‘normal’ young men due to an over-focus on troublesome and criminal
young masculinities (Barnes, 2010), participants were tasked with making
their own representations of masculinity. At this point, each young man
received a basic, disposable flash camera with 39 exposures. Each camera
was numbered and marked against the group list for identification purposes.
At this stage, time was also allowed at this stage for questions and practice
shots (see Figure 18.1).
The simplicity and ubiquity of the disposable camera is vital for the cre-
ation of a more equal and collaborative research space as it removes the need
for the researcher to ‘teach’ or instruct participants in order for them to take
part (Packard, 2008, pp. 64–65). Avoiding this was, as noted, a particular
concern for me in this context.
Cliona Barnes 241
Stage two
The ‘active photo shooting phase’ (Kolb, 2008, p. 6) saw participants tak-
ing the cameras for a period of between ten days and two weeks. Following
development of the films by the researcher, the photographs were returned
to the young men a few days before the final discussion groups. This enabled
the removal of any photos that participants decided not to share. Reflect-
ing some of the practical difficulties associated with this method (see Heath
et al., 2009, p. 128), not all of the cameras were returned, with five reported
lost, broken or confiscated. Fifteen cameras overall were developed yielding
rich images and narratives. Photos showed places visited alongside images
of the objects that make up the material culture of young masculinities –
including I-pods, game consoles, mobile phones, designer clothing, toiletries
and sports equipment. Approximately 350 images were developed offering a
unique view of what young men consider to be representative of contempo-
rary youth masculinity. A selection of these images, chosen by participants,
formed the basis for the final discussion groups.
Stage three
In the photo-elicitation interview, the participant takes on the expert role,
introducing their own world and speaking authoritatively about their own
life. At first, both groups of young men were somewhat hesitant as they are
not used to talking about or reflecting on their everyday lives in a context
outside of their regular interactions with friends, teachers and family. Fur-
ther to this, the personal nature of the discussion of gender identity clashes
with the demands of an acceptable presentation of masculinity in the group
context (Robb, 2007). This conflict was, however, mediated by the famil-
iar and comfortable routine of showing and sharing photographs and the
majority took great care to explain their images to the researcher, often at
great length. Their fluency and desire to elaborate about their photos belies
the popular portrayal of young men as inarticulate and unforthcoming in
242 Using Visual Methods to Hear Young Men’s Voices
conversation (Frosh et al., 2002, p. 22). Such enthusiasm can be seen in the
following extract and images, wherein Patrick, a St Pious student, explains a
series of three of his photos, none of which appear particularly interesting,
but which, with his narrative, offer an alternative view of young working-
class masculinity that is at odds with narrow and limiting media portrayals
(Figure 18.2).
Stage four
The final phase occurs after the group interviews when the images and the
narratives are analysed and interpreted by the researcher in the context of
the discussion transcripts and in interaction with existing theorizing and
research on young masculinities. This follows the participant reading of
the images and offers a new layer of data for exploration. In many cases,
as in the previous extract, specific photos were the direct focus of richly
descriptive talk. Here, without overtly trying for, or seeking this outcome,
Patrick’s images and narratives dispel the popular stereotype of the socially
disconnected, fearsome ‘hoodie’, replacing it with a shaven-headed, tough-
looking 16-year-old who calls the bingo numbers and helps at the youth
club. However, the photographs were also used to perform and reproduce
more traditional forms of young masculinities, particularly in relation to the
disparagement of femininity (Barnes, 2011). In relation to images taken of
the young women in school, the participants were unrelentingly sexist, rat-
ing them in terms of sexual attractiveness rather than referring to them in
terms of friendship. In response to a query from me as to whether or not
they were friends with girls, the following exchange occurred at Forthill:
Such talk and comments by the young men show the reliance on reinforc-
ing and continually referencing heterosexual desire, activity and prowess
that is at the heart of ‘being normal’ in the context of young, school-going
masculinities (Martino and Pallotta-Chiarolli, 2005). Failure to join in or
at least laugh is often enough to be marginalized by the group. Kimmel
(1994, p. 133) highlights this impetus to exaggerate masculinity by mak-
ing reference to heterosexual activity, linking it to a fear of appearing gay,
and thus weak and feminized, in the eyes of others. Further examples
of this continual need to reference heterosexuality were seen in relation
to photographs of computers, which immediately prompted references to
watching pornography and masturbation; photographs of bedrooms led to
discussion of ‘action’ seen there; and items of clothing were described as
‘pimp style’. The appearance of such comments was to be expected fol-
lowing Robb’s (2007, p. 124) discussion of ‘performance masculinities’ in
the group setting. These deliberately exaggerated and provocative com-
ments are understandable in this context, as well as being illustrative of
existing, problematic attitudes among the group, particularly in relation to
young women and homosexuality. Following the laughter and crude jokes,
which followed the short exchange above, several of the Forthill partici-
pants were slightly embarrassed and searched through their images to show
me pictures of ‘cool girls’ that they sometimes ‘hang out with’ as well as
sought to explain themselves in relation to their sometimes negative atti-
tudes to young women their own age (see Barnes, 2011 for a discussion of
disparagement of femininities in this study).
In this research, the photography task functioned not just to provide data,
or to elicit issues for discussion, but worked as part of an overall method-
ological approach based around a critical understanding of young men as
able, competent social actors whose reflections and interpretations of their
own lives and experiences are of great value (James et al., 1998; James and
James, 2004). It was equally based around an awareness of the potential bar-
riers, which may prevent the sharing of such reflections and interpretations
in the field. The research methods were thus chosen to maximize opportuni-
ties for knowledge creation and exchange between a female researcher and
young male participants.
The widely shared belief that men shouldn’t ‘talk’ has, as Frosh et al.
(2002) note, been internalized by many young men to the point that the
act of talking, particularly about identities, emotions or feelings, is now
wholly associated with the feminine. Such an association has been power-
fully shown, in a range of studies of young, school-going masculinities, to
be a marker of low status within the group (Frosh et al., 2002; Francis and
Cliona Barnes 245
(a) (b)
O’Connor (2008, p. 12) notes that we . . . bring our gender identity into
being by performing various kinds of behaviour . . . that are currently labelled
masculine or feminine’. Young men construct and perform their masculine
identities according to the currently dominant gender order in the society
that they live in (Connell, 2005, p. 13) and while there has been some loos-
ening of strict social roles and social expectations for men and women,
in Ireland, the gender order is still predicated on a very traditional binary
structure that positions masculinity as ‘strong, active, hard, rational’ and
femininity as ‘weak, passive, soft, emotional’ (Kehily, 2001, p. 117). How-
ever, within this, it appears from the photographs and narratives that there
has been a certain ‘loosening up’ around what constitutes appropriate or
acceptable masculine interests.
Finally, giving cameras to the young men also opened spaces that are
otherwise closed to research and to researchers. Bloustien and Baker (2003,
p. 70) note that the use of cameras ‘ . . . allows access to aspects of everyday
life that in ordinary fieldwork circumstances the ethnographer might not
be privileged to see’. Indeed, it would not have been possible, or desirable,
for me, as a female researcher, to physically gather the data provided by
the young men’s photographs. The practical and ethical difficulties involved
in, for example, visiting the homes of young men, seeing their bedrooms,
or visiting their hangout spots are simply prohibitive (Bloustien and Baker,
2003, p. 71). Accompanying participants in this way would not only dilute
their perspective evident in the selection and framing of objects, places and
people, but also change the spaces in which they move. My presence was
not necessary, nor would it have been productive. The young men were
delighted to be ‘trusted’ with the cameras and the level of consideration and
effort evident in the majority of the photos is reflective of their positive atti-
tude towards, and engagement with, the research question. In this research,
photo-elicitation as a method was demonstrably successful in overcoming
potential barriers to the full and willing participation of young men. It is not,
as Frosh et al. (2002, p. 24) note in their discussion on the success of their
own research strategy, claimed as some ‘magic approach . . . which allowed
Cliona Barnes 247
Notes
1. See Packard (2008, pp. 64–65) and Kolb (2008, pp. 4–6) for an outline of the history
of the use of visual methods in the social sciences.
2. This research was funded by the Irish Social Sciences Platform (ISSP) under the
Irish Government’s Programme for Research in Third Level Institutions, Cycle 4
(PRTLI4) and was undertaken at the Department of Sociology and the Institute for
the Study of Knowledge in Society (ISKS) at the University of Limerick, Ireland.
3. See Hopkins (2010, pp. 28–34) for an introductory outline of different approaches
to research with young people.
4. All locations and named individuals throughout have been assigned pseudonyms.
5. Often such statements are made in such a way as to make it difficult to identify
who spoke.
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