3.2.22 Allegheny JOB Transcript (UNOFFICIAL)

3.4.
22 Allegheny JOB
Fri, 3/4 1:43PM 1:17:24
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
jail, warden, methadone, questions, meeting, people, staffing, inmates, individuals, staff, report,
incarcerated individuals, employees, officers, continue, person, numbers, treatment, allegheny county,
working
SPEAKERS
John Kentsowicz, Myesha Howes, Not Sure, Jonas Caballero, Pat Catena, Terri Klein, Judge Elliott Howsie,
Steve Pilarski, Sheriff Kevin Kraus, Tracy Royston, Adam Zack, Frank Scherer, Jason Beasom,
Dr. Ashley Brinkman, Brian Englert, Warden Orlando Harper, Gayle Moss, Todd Baumgardner
J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:00

We're calling the meeting to order. Take roll. Pat Catena?
P Pat Catena 00:05

Present.

Gayle Moss?
G Gayle Moss 00:07

Present.

Tracy Royston?
T Tracy Royston 00:10

Present.
Beth Lazzara. [Silence.]

Terri Klein?
T Terri Klein 00:14

Present.

Abass Kamarra. [Silence]

Kevin Kraus?
S Sheriff Kevin Kraus 00:20

Present.

Rich Fitzgerald?
S Steve Pilarski 00:22

Steve Pilarski for Rich Fitzgerald.

Alright. With that being said, I'd like to recite the rules to everyone in attendance, everyone will
be treated with dignity and respect. Everyone will will have the opportunity to be heard within
reason. Anyone wishing to address the board must sign up. And depending on the number of
people who wish to speak, we may impose a time limit. I may also limit the number of speakers
so that the board can conduct the business of the meeting. profanity and yelling will not be
tolerated. Anyone using profanity, or anyone who is yelling will be removed from the meeting. If
you're unable to do this, I am kindly asking that you leave at this time. In this meeting,
everyone will be treated with dignity and respect. And I thank you in advance for your
consideration. And thank you for your willingness to show up. This is the first meeting we've
had-- actually we were, we missed one meeting, we were virtual. And now we're present now.
So I think that's going to be the state of affairs going forward. I think we'll be in person going
forward. That's how things look. So thank you, everyone, for showing up. With that being said, I
believe we have a presentation.
M Myesha Howes 01:50

Good evening. My name is Myesha Howes(sp?), and I am the Assistant Deputy Director with the
Office of Behavioral Health, the Bureau of Drug and Alcohol services. We wanted to come today
just to give a brief update about MAT (Medication-Assisted Treatment), specifically methadone,
in the jail. It's a new service that we are expanding.

So I wanted to first start off with our relationship with Allegheny County and the community as
it relates to substance use disorders so that you understand who I am. Our services, we are
responsible for the planning, implementation, and evaluation of all contracted substance use
disorder services within Allegheny County, we work with substance use providers between
prevention, intervention, treatment, and recovery support. And that is also our relationship
from our office with the Allegheny County Jail. We currently have intervention services that we
support the jail with. So we are now looking to expand with specifically methadone.

I just want to mention, the reason why this is important, is because we know that a lot of
people who have a current specifically opioid use disorder, when they leave the jail, they have
a high probability of overdosing and even fatally, right. So if we have the opportunity, while
they're in jail, if they came into jail, and they were on methadone, we can continue that service
for them. So it's really important that, you know, we work as hard as we can to get this service
running in which we have been, since this was announced, I believe, maybe back in October,
we've been doing so another reason is keeping clients engaged in treatment. That is also
important, right?

So what we know is that if clients, you know, people who have a substance use disorder, if
they, if for any time, there's kind of a lapse in their engagement, it is more likely that they'll
utilize street drugs and or other means to continue using in an unhealthy way instead of using
the Medication Assisted Treatment. So that's another reason it's important. We kind of capture
them in that environment. Before they go back out into the community.

I want to just talk a little bit about the benefit to working with an existing provider. We currently
have a contract with Tadiso and those who are familiar with to this. So they've been in
operation since the 70s. Right? And methadone is what they do. Our office, we currently
contract with them. So we wanted to work with an existing provider that understood the rules,
the regulations, they already have everything in place, with the exception of all of the staffing,
so I have to be transparent and say that right? Tadiso isn't any different than you know, the
current landscape with staffing that's is just an issue for a lot of people.

But they're working on it and they're looking at using some other resources within their agency
but it is a true benefit to working with an existing provider that understands the landscape and
they also already had an you know a relationship with the jail. So we think that this will be just
a good start for us to work with them. The last couple of things I wanted to talk about is just
kind of updates. So we've decided the target population for this methadone project will be
individuals interviewed entering the jail, who screened positive for methadone and have an
active prescription from a community based treatment provider. And it's important that we say
an active prescription right, so we're not going to be doing induction. We are working with
people who have a current prescription for methadone.

I spoke already about Tadiso. Working on their staffing, they're looking for a nurse currently,
and a data specialist, which I you know, I will say that this part is really important, they are
actually looking to hire a data specialist. So they're taking it very seriously. And looking at the
numbers to see how well this program actually works. Right. So they're not just saying, we're
just going to give methadone and we hope it works out, they're actually going to look at the
data to say whether this is, you know, a service that they should continue. For the past few
months Tadiso, DHS, and the Jail have been meeting regularly to facilitate program planning,
including communication protocols, intake process, service delivery, federal grant reporting
responsibilities, data collection, compliance with federal and state regulations, as well as jail
security and other logistics.

And I'm going to pause at this point. And Dr. Brinkman will talk a little bit about the work
around jail security and other logistics within the jail.
D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 06:37

Good afternoon. So one of the main things that we wanted to make sure that all of their staff
that are coming from to this are able to do is be able to operate within the facility. So it'll
incorporate going through security processes, so that they can be acting as though they're an
extension of our health care department in order to provide these services. Not necessarily
guests, but a part of our department and interdisciplinary work from the standpoint that we
know that these people will have most likely dual diagnosis and be need to coordinate
treatment with the rest of the healthcare department.

So that'll mean going through security training, and getting all of the processes up and running
from there. So what we're, what we're looking at is upon booking in intake, being able to start
that medication verification process, because it can be a little bit timely. And we only have a
short window to be able to make sure that the patients will have access to their next dose.
From there, once they're on their housing units will have daily dosing available. One of the
things that we're working on right now is ensuring that we have the most secure means to
store the medications on site. So we're going to be procuring a medication safe to be able to do
all of those logistics. So then they'll be able to participate in counseling with one of the
counselors from today. So they have nurse practitioner who's going to be working on the
prescribing and other medication and to be able to do the full realm of services that's required
related to methadone because of the federal regulations.

Thank you. Are there any questions?

I heard you say, medicine verification process, what what is entailed in that process, I'm just
sure. So

we would do that with any of our incoming patients that are going through intake, if they say
that they're on a specific medication, then they we go through a process to verify with
pharmacies in the local area treatment providers so that we can continue what they've been
on. So with methadone, it's a little bit more particular. Because when you're going through the
community treatment providers, you're not going to your local pharmacy to pick up
methadone. So we have to be able to connect with the community treatment providers, which
we've already discussed. And I think my Major [Deputy Warden Jason Beasom] is going to talk
about that. To be able to let them know this is a project that we're doing and we're going to
need as quick as possible verification of your current treatment existing. So it's a quick
connection with them to get what their current status is and their treatment. So that we can
connect back to Tadiso and their prescribers can continue as appropriate.

So does a person who's leaving the jail, would that person be given a dose or how would that
work in terms of carrying over until they could get back to a community provider?
The same type of speedy reconnection as is happening at the front end is going to have to
happen at the discharge and so that We can pass on the records from what it would be to do.
So passing on the records from their course of treatment while with us, right back to the
community provider. So that's, that's a part of us working very closely with those community
providers so that there is a time lapse between those doses.

Thank you. And just to add to that, we hosted a meeting about a month ago, with the other
providers within the county, they provide methadone, they were all completely bought in and
excited about the opportunity for their current clients to be able to continue to be serviced,
even if it's by another provider, right. And they're also excited knowing that when their client
leaves the jail, someone's going to call them and communicate with them that you know, that
person is coming back out, and there'll be you know, they'll need to continue their dosing.

Um, Ms. Klein?
T Terri Klein 11:04

I have a question. Is there any outreach being done so if there's a resident in the Jail, in detox
in the Jail, are you reaching out to them with maybe the MAT option?

So not with this particular project. Now, that may be something that either the Jail is looking at,
currently or in the future, but with this particular project, it's specifically people who are already
connected with MAT. And I think, you know, we can look at induction at some point, but right
now we're working with what we have an existing services and enhancing and expanding.

Mr. Catena?
P Pat Catena 11:33

Thank you. You talked about a speedy reconnection on the front end, how can you guarantee
it's gonna be a speedy reconnection on the front end? I mean, obviously, we've seen lapses
before, unfortunately, and I just questioned the fact that we talk we use the term euphemism
speedy reconnection.

So that's a main part of why we engage the community providers up front so that we would be
able to have direct contacts with them to have within a very small amount of time, we're
talking about possibly less than 24 hours of time to be able to get their treatment information
back and and right back to today. So. So that's where today so will we have a daily process in
place of any new admissions, so that we can plan for those new admissions having the
delivered medications on site. So that's where that was critical for us to have the community
providers.
P Pat Catena 12:32

Follow up question-- Do you see any challenges in that approach?

I think a new project like this would have any challenge. So, yeah [laughing]
P Pat Catena 12:40

What would they be?

So I-- ensuring that we have all of the right people connected. So if, you know, Jane Doe is the
primary point person, making sure that they recognize 'Oh, this is the email from the jail saying
this is a new admission.' So I think it's really getting everyone comfortable to the process. So
what we had planned was another follow up with community providers for the ironed out
process. So that we had Okay, at this time, we're going to be connecting with you we have this
our window to be able to get that information back from you, so that we can get the prescriber
at today. So to be able to start and initiate the treatment to continue.
P Pat Catena 13:29

I think the the process sounds great to me, it's the execution piece that I really worry about
obviously. So thank you.

Any other questions? Thank you very much. Thank you we will now have the Community
Corrections report.
Passages to Recovery? No one's here. Alright, the Renewal Center.
A Adam Zack 14:22

Good afternoon, Adam Zack reporting for the Renewal Center. Recently, our board members
decided to create a scholarship fund in the name of former board member Betty Esper. They
will award two $1,000 scholarships to two current or former re-entrants. We are currently
working on the requirements for this and just some of the criteria as of now we'll be
demonstrating a commitment to community service, submitting an essay, support and
recommendation from their counselor, case manager, or former counselor and case manager,
and participation in treatment. To my knowledge, this is the first time we're doing something
like this and we're very excited about this new project. And we're looking forward to awarding
these scholarships to a couple individuals in a trade school or a trade program. Thank you.

Any questions?

How does someone apply for the scholarships? How do they qualify or apply?
A Adam Zack 15:20

We're working on that right now this is hot off the presses. It might be electronic, or it might be
a paper application. But this is just something in the genesis part of the project right now.

I'm sorry, if I understood you correctly, is it someone that would have had to have been in the
Renewal Center to apply, is that...?
A Adam Zack 15:41

Former or current person and they're, like I said, we don't, I'm not sure how far we're gonna go
back, like how former, but this is something we're working on.

Okay.

And this was not to the individual, it's to a trade school or higher learning type of thing.
A Adam Zack 15:58

It may go to the individual, personally, or may go to the trade program.

So it's still in development.
A Adam Zack 16:03

Still in development.

Gotcha.

And this is something you'll do once per year, or...?
A Adam Zack 16:08

Looking to do annually, every year.

Great
A Adam Zack 16:13

$1,000. So, two scholarships.
$1,000. So, two scholarships.

And the gentleman in the back has indicated he's having trouble hearing some of us. So if you
intend to ask a question, please use your microphone. Thank you very much.
A Adam Zack 16:25

Thank you.

Thank you. Electronic Monitoring?
F Frank Scherer 16:37

Good afternoon. My name is Frank Scherer. I'm the director of Adult Probation. So as our report
indicates, we finished the month with a population of 621 individuals. And I am extremely
happy to report that we made it through the month with zero violations, which basically means
no one was returned to jail for any type of violation. So to be honest, that's pretty rare. And I'm
excited about that.

Of our population... Judge Howsie, I know you had asked last month... of the 621 individuals,
131 are there for pretrial. And unless there's any questions. That's all we have.

I do have a question for Mr. Scherer. I know it's hard to quantify how you were able to
accomplish zero violations. But was there anything that you could replicate going forward?

Well, Judge, I'd like to say that it was good work on my staff's part. I'll just leave it at that.
Generally, the violations are somewhere in the neighborhood of three to five, and three to five
individuals being returned. Those are usually folks that in some form or another, violate their
their windows or cut the bracelet off, it's usually something pretty serious. So even though we
may have some some potential drug violations or alcohol violations, we try the treatment route
first. So again, I'm gonna I'm gonna hang my hat on that this is working and our folks did a
great job, so...
If I could mention one other thing, speaking of our electronic monitoring, we're now back in the
jail banding folks up, which avoids the the issue with releasing folks without the bracelet being
on. So I just want to thank the warden and his staff for, for accommodating us for that. And
we're also trying-- and Warden I hope I'm not stealing any of your thunder-- to get our reentry
folks back into the jail, hopefully as soon as next month. So.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you. Any questions? Mr. Catena?
P Pat Catena 19:00

Thank you. Obviously, my hat's off to you. That's a great accomplishment. My question is did
anything inherently change, or..? Obviously that's huge, wouldn't you say?

I do. In fact, while I was sitting there, I texted the gentleman that oversees the unit and I said,
"Is there a misprint on this?" And he said, "No, everything..." So again, I'm proud of them. So
nothing of substantial nature has changed. So...
P Pat Catena 19:31

So we're gonna hold you to those numbers each and every month then. So if they're that good
today, right?

Sounds good.
P Pat Catena 19:36

P Pat Catena 19:36
Okay.

I'll let you know next. Thank you.

Thank you. Hopefully everyone had an opportunity to review the minutes from the last
meeting. Is there a motion?

I move to approve the minutes.

Is there a second?
G Gayle Moss 19:53

I'll second.

All right.
P Pat Catena 19:56

Judge Howsie I'm going to abstain just since I wasn't here at the last meeting technically.

Okay, Mr. Catena.

Motion has been moved and properly seconded. The motion will carry.
Old Business... I believe as Suicide Prevention Subcommittee, that would have been, I believe,
Judge Lazzara, and she had a conflict and was unable to attend the meeting. So I will assume
that we won't have anyone on the Board presenting regarding the subcommittee, Ms. Royston,
is that correct? Incorrect?

That's correct? I don't know if you had some-- Okay. Sorry about that. So with that being said, is
there an update on the status of the recommendations from the Report from the Warden?

That's correct.
J Jason Beasom 20:47

I'm gonna field that, Your Honor, if that's okay.

Okay, fair enough.

So at the last meeting, I reported that four of the 10 suicide resistant cells slated for
construction have been completed. Since the last meeting, I can report that cells number five
and six will be complete by the close of business tomorrow or very early next week. And then
once once those are completed, though, they'll continue on.

What will be the total number of cells that you have now? Suicide resist-- er, prevention cells?

10 total, sir.

Ten total? I'm sorry, I missed... Trying to take notes, sorry about that. Any questions?
Ten total? I'm sorry, I missed... Trying to take notes, sorry about that. Any questions?
P Pat Catena 21:21

Just clarification-- If you have, sorry, if you have 10 cells and five and six are completed, I'm to
assume one through four are good? Or no?

Yeah, at the last meeting, I reported that the cells one through four were completed-- are
currently under construction, should be done tomorrow, if not Monday or Tuesday next week.
Thank you.
P Pat Catena 21:41

Thank you.

Alright. Any other questions?

Update regarding the reinspection, the completed recommendations, as more of the Suicide
Prevention subcommittee? That would have been Judge Lazzara and Bethany Hallam so I'll
assume that we will not be presenting on that as well... Okay.

Update regarding the policy for Polycom devices?
W Warden Orlando Harper 22:10

Good afternoon, everybody.

Good afternoon.

We're still having technical issues with the scheduling program with the vendor Renovo for the
Polycom machines. But as I reported last month, you can still schedule Polycom visits through
the website using a request form. But I do want to announce to the board that in January, we
did have 711 Polycom visits in January. And in February, we had 644 Polycom visits in February.
So people are utilizing the request slips to schedule visits to the Polycom machine. That's all I
have, Your Honor.

Thank you. Any questions? I do recognize a number of public defenders in the room and I'm
sure their question would be if they had one, What is the process for facilitating a Polycom
visit?

You just go to our website, go to the area that says Professional Visits, fill out the request slip,
an email be sent to our arraignment team-- our video arraignment team-- and they will
schedule the Polycom visits. So everything is on the website.

What is the timeframe for that? Is that within-- Do you receive an email? Can that be set up
same day, within a day?

Same day.

Same day? Okay. Any other questions? All right, thank you. So there was an update regarding
the compliance on solitary confinement ban ballot referendum. Warden Harper?

You know, as I reported last month we are in total compliance with Chapter 205, Your Honor.

All right. Any questions regarding that?
And again, Incarcerated Individual's Welfare Fund report would have been Judge Lazzara and
unfortunately, she is unavailable this evening.

I think that we could-- between Terry and I, we could probably patch together some
information.

My apologies.
T Terri Klein 24:12

Should I go first, or...?

Well you probably know more about the survey with the Pitt School of Social Work.
T Terri Klein 24:17

So I've not heard specifically back from the Dean, but as of last month, we were expecting a
completed-- by the end of this month, so we should have a deliverable then. There's been back
and forth meetings between the committee and the Pennsylvania Prison Society and I think
we're honing in on a contract that is agreeable with everyone. Both parties.

Yes. I would just add to that they, we responded to them this week. And then they were getting
us some final answers, actually today, so we should have them by the end of the week. And
then Steve [Pilarski] and I touched base very briefly, about the compensation for work
performed by inmates.

Steve, I don't know if you have anything to add, but I think that there were just a lot of logistics
that went into that. So it's going to be an ongoing conversation.

Did you have anything to add regarding compensation for the inmates at the ACJ?

No, not at this time. And we-- I mean, there was all kinds of-- I'm not a labor attorney. I'm not a
tax attorney. But there'll be all kinds of things that have to be addressed. And those matters.
Before we could discuss that, you know.

So it's fair to say it's a work in progress?

Yes.

All right. Fair enough. Now move to the Public Comments. First on my list was Ashley
Brinkman? Was that just because...?
26:05
Yeah

Okay. Well, I guess we'll go to Mr. Kenstowicz. And just out of an abundance of caution we ask
that each person limit their comments to five minutes please.
J John Kentsowicz 26:37

Yeah, I'd like to present to the board a collaborative approach to addressing the immediate
staffing crisis at ACJ.

Can I encourage you to speak into your microphone?

Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'd like to encourage... I'd like to talk about the collaborative approach to
addressing the immediate staffing crisis at ACJ. With ACJ's need to comply with the referendum
and the loss of staff because of the pandemic, the staffing problem at ACJ has reached a new
crisis. It has become too large for one department or the county to solve on its own. It must be
confronted head on with a proactive approach and the supportive assistance of other
organizations. So I have four recommendations that I believe can address this staffing crisis.

The first is to convene a task force of subject experts and providers to examine the staffing
problem and provide solutions. The group ideally would include faculty from schools of nursing,
criminology, and human resources departments, plus the Office of Behavioral Health, and
Department of Human Services leadership, marketing communication specialist, a Jail
Oversight Board member, and then representatives from frontline correctional nursing and
mental health staff at ACJ and a returning citizen.

So the objectives of the group would include identifying barriers to ACJ recruitment, and
develop proactive innovative recruitment methods. Designing an ACJ exit interview process for
implementation, and assessment of the staff turnover problem. Designing and conducting a
staff retention survey of current ACJ staff. Analyze the data and providing recommendations for
a comprehensive staff retention plan. But another objective is to recommending best practices
to make ACJ a "workplace of choice." And the last one is to develop a regional and national
market strategy marketing strategy for recruitment. The second one is to focus on the utility of
an exit interview process. So every time an employee leaves the building, years of experience
and knowledge walk out the door, each person leaving increases the workload for others report
replacement costs are significant in recruitment, training and mentoring and contracting with
with outside agencies. At this stage, ACJ cannot afford to lose any more employees. A
comprehensive assessment based on exit interviews of why people are leaving employment at
AcJ can provide the raw data needed to address this problem.

A third recommendation is to develop a statement of best practice to make ACJ a workplace of
choice. Daniel Pink, an HR expert, asserts that workplace motivation is related to a sense of
purpose opportunities for growth and autonomy over one's work. Laurie, Shawn Lee, PhD,
correctional nursing consultants states, "They" -- and she's referring to the people incarcerated-
- "rarely have a history of quality health care, which gives nurses an opportunity to make a
difference in their health and well being. Making a difference in people's lives for many nurses
is the reason why they chose nursing as a career."

The MTC Institute management and training Corporation. Sauteing correctional officer
retention, found that work-life balance and opportunity for advancement are key factors for
retention, found that work-life balance and opportunity for advancement are key factors for
correctional officer retention. Correctional Officers need for autonomy and having control their
schedules and having opportunities for paid educational opportunities for career career
advancement are keys to retention. Regarding their sense of purpose correctional officers
provide for the safety of residents have the jail and staff and they know that the jail would not
function without them. So the last recommendation is to institute measures to make ACJ a
competitive workplace.
31:27
Though Daniel Pink asserts the importance of purpose growth and autonomy, he also
recognizes that employers must provide competitive compensation or people will look or
people will look elsewhere. With the unemployment rate at 3% historical low, potential
applicants have many choices. As a result, hiring and retention practices must be competitive
with other workplaces.

Measures to make ACJ more competitive in harmony with correct collective bargaining
agreements could include large hiring bonuses with the low unemployment rate. Many
workplaces are finding that they need to institute hiring bonuses to attract potential
employees. Since ACJ is in a state of crisis and turnover is high, the hiring bonus must be much
higher than other workplaces.

Discontinuing application fees. Application fees are barriers to recruitment, even if there are
poverty considerations.

Parking reimbursement for all employees. Most county jail staff in the state do not pay parking
fees. This fee is a disincentive and psychologically demoralizing.

More time off to spend with families. Working two to three shifts in a row hurts family
relationships and a person's physical and mental health. People should be given more time off
with pay when working forced overtime.

Hazard pay. Staff are at a much higher risk of COVID and other contagious diseases than the
general population and should be given hazard pay.
Meaningful retention bonuses to prevent people from leaving for higher paying jobs. Significant
retention bonuses have proved to be very effective in retaining employees.

Stop the use of vacation time for COVID related reasons. Staff should not have to use their
vacation time because of COVID illness. This is a major disincentive.

Maximize flexibility for employees to choose their work shift. Working overtime forces families
to change their routines. Hence, employees need more flexibility in their scheduling to respond
to different family needs.

Higher overtime pay. Employees are making sacrifices and taking risks with their physical and
mental health consistently working more overtime. Higher overtime pay is not just a material
benefit, but it's psychologically symbolic that the employer recognizes the major sacrifices
being made by the employee.

So in conclusion, the staff are working to win sometimes three shifts, they are spending much
less time with their families and burnout is more of a concern than ever. staff and residents at
ACJ are hurting the county executive and in the j ob. Now need to raise the morale of AC Jeff
ACJ staff buy directly by directly confronting the ACJ staffing crisis with new initiatives that
include a large network of providers. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. We will now hear from Jonas Caballero.
J Jonas Caballero 35:23

Hi, I'm Jonas Caballero. I just want to make sure the camera sees my gorgeous sign here. Yeah,
there we go. Before I read my comment, I also want to say that I think there are at least two
folks here in the room that would like to read a comment. They didn't have a chance when they
came in.
Or you could probably, you know, make room for two extra comments. Okay, well, my name is
Jonas Caballero. I'm a survivor of the Allegheny County Jail. This comment is for Mr. Rich
Fitzgerald. I don't have my glasses on but can somebody point him out for me, please? No, he's
not here today. I'm not surprised. He hasn't shown up for a JOB meeting since July 1 of 2021.

I wanted to comment on Mr. Fitzgerald's despicable attempt to replace Terri Klein as the citizen
member of the JOB. It is beyond reproach, that Mr. Fitzgerald is clamping down on the sole
citizen member of the board simply because she does not toe the company line 100% of the
time. It is absurd and infuriating that Mr. Fitzgerald is trying to replace Miss Klein with William
Stickman III and I am not making this up, who is an actual former warden and DOC
[Department of Corrections] director. The law enforcement perspective is already represented
by the county sheriff. And the qualifications espoused by Mr. Stickman are the exact opposite
of the qualifications listed for the person who is to fill that role.

For example, the statute states that citizen members shall not be employees of the
Commonwealth, and shall include persons whose backgrounds and experiences indicate that
they are qualified to act in the interest of the public. There should be different sorts of people
who fill the citizen member positions, whether they are formerly incarcerated, people from
advocacy or abolition organizations, hey, perhaps even a medical or mental health specialist
folks who are truly qualified to act in the interest of the public. It is well known that Rich
Fitzgerald unconditionally supports the current "Warden of Death," under whose watch at least
12 incarcerated individuals have died in the last two years alone.

But to try and replace a citizen member with another previous "warden of death", under whose
watch nine known incarcerated individuals died in less than two years, speaks to the dystopian
nature of Rich Fitzgerald's intentions. One of the last times I spoke here at the JOB I listed the
names of the human lives that were extinguished under Orlando Harper's watch. Here are the
names of the lives that were lost under Warden Stickman's tenure: Derrick Black, whose death
resulted in a $2 million settlement in a wrongful death lawsuit. Edward Matalan, Michael Lewis.
Saahir Allen-Major, Robert Urbatas, Marvin King, Tammy Cox, Cheryl Ann Miller, Jamie Sue
Ramaley.

Rich Fitzgerald should be ashamed of himself for his blatant and unapologetic attempt to pack
the board with cronies who clearly do not have the public interest at heart. And I would like to
know if anyone here on the board would be willing to speak on Mr. Fitzgerald's attempt to oust
Ms. Klein from the JOB and replace her with-- replace her seat with the warden of death Mr.
Stickman.
T Terri Klein 39:36

I feel like I need to make a clarification to what you're saying. The tenure of each of the
community board members is three years. The we each are you know we're appointed by the
Chief Executive to serve and confirmed by counsel, I am currently in an audit, my term has
been expired. So and I really want this clear that I did not ask for this. I'm totally shocked by
this. It is the prerogative of the Chief Executive to choose the community members. My term, I
was put up again for a second term. And I am serving until there is a replacement that's
confirmed by the County Council.

Thank you for that. It still doesn't speak to the intention of Miss Harper of so sorry, of Mr.
Fitzgerald to replace your seat with a previous warden of Allegheny County Jail. So if anyone
else would like to speak to that maybe next time? Yeah, one more question. Because most of
us here aren't wearing masks. Does that mean that in person visits are going to resume for the
incarcerated population at the jail? Okay, thank you.
P Pat Catena 41:25

But obviously, I'm the president county council I serve on the appointment copy of his
comments before the our minutes are obviously going to take a little bit of a while and I just
want to make sure we have a copy of what he stated for the appointment or view meeting. So if
I can ask him the gentleman to get email me a copy of the information. Did you hear that? Yes.

I'll email you a copy
P Pat Catena 41:51

if you get with me. Thank you. Thank you, Judge. Thank you.

But that being said, the next person signed up final person, Mr. Englert should limit your
remarks.
B Brian Englert 42:10

Good afternoon, I come back again this month to talk about staffing. I want to thank John for his
amazing analysis of what we need it that jail. Unfortunately, the county manager does not
share your concerns. They shut down retention bonuses, recruitment bonuses, stuff like that.
But I do appreciate you bringing that up.

You know, 205 [the solitary confinement ballot initiative] took away a lot of tools used for me
and officer safety. So to compensate, we should be afforded the required yearly training under
state tow 37. But we don't have enough people to do the safety training such as defensive
tactics, etc. We all need a refresher on defensive tactics. But it's been five years and no
training. So recruitment and staffing is an issue.

Also, I was sad to see Judge Lazzara is not here. I want to let her know that the inmate tablet
system, they stopped working at 10am and they come on around seven 730. My bargaining. My
Union did not bargain to do tech support for the tablets. We have no idea how they work. D
reset anything. We're not responsible for any of this either. We did not sign up to doing this. So
if somebody on the board could address it with a vendor GTL my inmates are under sells 23
hours a day and these tablets aren't working. I did try to give my inmates two hours of rec I
asked the captain if I could do split rec on Monday. And he told me no. I had done that on my
own on Friday, because there was a lot of tension on my unit. Also, I had offered to participate
to assist in recruiting yet I haven't received any information. So it doesn't seem like there's a
plan and recruiting officers have asked them to take down the thank you sign in front of the
building and replace it with a help wanted sign. No answer on that either.

I think medical staffing is also important. I listened to the presentation from Dr. Brinkman about
methadone. I have a real concern about that because 13 shifts in February on 11 of seven. We
either had no medical or mental health staffing in intake, either one or both, no staffing at all,
and intake. So I don't know how we're going to do effective questioning about methadone and
suboxone when we don't have the people to do this. My officers are brought concerns me that
inmates are coming upstairs without being three page which means they weren't seen by
medical or mental health. We don't know if they're detoxing from drugs, alcohol, which is
extremely dangerous, or if they're suicidal. We have no idea. It's been brought to my attention.
We're passing methadone on the three to 11 shift. We haven't been trained to do that. I
brought my concern to Dr. Brinkman. She advised me she's not on my chain of command go to
my staff. My staff have no idea. They said we don't know what to do. Should we have the
inmates and while this person is getting their suboxone are out. The reason I bring it up as a
safety concern is because we're finding crushed suboxone in sales. We just found it today on an
inmate go into court. This is very dangerous. This is also an officer safety issue. You don't know
what this person may be having a reaction from was that some drug that they got was across
the box and are they having a seizure? We have no idea.
In regards to staffing issues, an officer brought concerns to me that as a 331, march 1, she was
forced to her fourth day in a row and she refused her force. She doesn't have family medical
leave, she had 82 hours worked in six days, she's only had 75 at home hours and seven days,
subtract the showering, laundry, shopping, meal prep patch, travel time, and you have some
dangerous the fact she reported anxiety or ability due to sleep deprivation, trouble focusing,
cognitive thinking, this is just one of many my officers that walk in every day, we run this jail
every day. And these are the side effects of our overtime.

Don't take this as a management labor grievances. We have a policy and we follow that we met
with Steve yesterday. This is beyond labor management grievances. They refuse to my bosses
refuse to communicate in email or respond, we only communicate in person. My last time I had
a one on one with my boss, he called me a liar. That was the end of that conversation. This is
just simple cooperation, blocking and tackling, required to run a jail, we run the jail, they tell us
how to run it. Without communicating with us, it's going to be a nightmare. And that's what it
is. Safety issues go unanswered. We have officers on 11 getting written up for match violations.
Let them we learned there's a top secret memo that should be distributed to department heads
that you must have a conversation with the employee three times before you even discipline
them. We just get a hearing just like that that's a morale Crusher, especially when it's top
secret memo that we got ahold of.

We don't even really have any kind of morale in this building anymore. You know, we we can't
leave our posts without permission. But we have inmates letting themselves out of their cells
on level four, that's dangerous. I asked that how the move back to level six that was denied.
And as a result of the safety issues, morale issue, staffing issues, the office in just our own
ability to do our job safely.

If I can't go to the HSA [Health Services Administrator, Ashley Brinkman] and ask her how
should we pass the box and on three to 11 for one inmate? She can't answer that question,
then who can answer it? I don't know. It's not my job to do training. It's not my job to tell other
officers what to do. This is a medical issue. This is not an officer issue. And it's it's a class one
substance, as a resolve these issues and the our inability to safely do our jobs.

Officers in the jail have put forth a vote of no confidence in our Warden and his administration,
just due to the fact that we laugh staffing for our safety. There's no plan to get staffing. We lack
training for our safety. We lack medical for inmate safety, which puts us as first responders.
This has been ongoing for years and the officers have put forth that motion, and I'm going to
consider it. That's all I have to say. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Englert. There were a number of public comments that were received via email.
And I'm going to summarize a number of them. Some of these comments, the Warden has
indicated he will address in his report. There was a comment regarding mace still being used in
the ACJ on incarcerated people was a question about how much longer will these tools be used?
And it's a life threatening issue. And what is the plan for eliminating mace and pepper spray,
Warden? Would you like to comment on that?

I sure would. Chemical agents have not been used at the ACJ since December 5. 2021 in
accordance to Chapter 205.

All right. There's also been a public comments submitted regarding your decision to promote a
number of officers last meeting to jails understaffed or even fewer CEOs able to help with
essential tasks like supervision recreation time. So the question basically come as concerning
your ability to recruit, recruit guards, correctional officers, and or appropriately staffed to jail.
Was that something you'd like to respond to?

The only thing I'm going to say about that is that we're actively recruiting and if anybody know
of anybody that would love to be a correctional officer at our jail, please have them go to the
website, fill out the application.

Excuse me. There was another comment dealing with a young lady indicated that her son was
on level five. And it was a concern about the way in which the courts were the individuals or
level five or being dealt with regarding being locked in a room lack of officers and social
distancing issues. I don't know if you could comment about some of the issues related to level
five Warden?

It was not Just level five. You know, as we reported last month, we had a high case of COVID in
our facility. So therefore, we had to reduce the amount of out of cell time for individuals, so we
can make sure that they were properly wearing a mask and physically distancing. Since we've
done that our COVID cases have drastically reduced, and we'll talk about that a little bit later.
Or there was also a concern about whether or not steps are being taken in the jail to provide a
non speed non English speaking course where the individuals

We have the appropriate amount of mechanisms to address language barriers.

Oh, right. And, another young lady indicated that her son is housed on pod 8E ["the hole"] and
said that there's she has a concern because medical or mental health staff were coming to his
door and doing segregation rounds. And why is that occurring? If there's no segregation in the
jail?

We've never said that there was no segregation in the jail. And it's part of our healthcare
department's responsibility to go to our segregated units to see and take care of the welfare of
our incarcerated individuals. I'm glad to hear that our health care department is doing what
they're directed to do.

Lastly, there was a comment regarding the quality of the food in the jail. There's a concern, of
course, where the individuals are being given a roach and rodent infested food as well as
spoiled and or contaminated food. I don't know if you'd like to comment on that.

Those allegations are not true, Your Honor.

All right. Well, that being said, they did not sign up. As I previously stated, they did not sign up,
it was a process. So unfortunately, they can sign up, they can submit a public comment via
email for the next meeting, or they can show up in a timely fashion. And they be given an
opportunity to speak as everyone else was. With that being said, for the president's report, I
would just like to point out to everyone that the board today had an executive session with the
warden. My short time on the board, the one thing I've learned is that people did appears to be
a significant level of distrust amongst some of the parties involved with the board and the
warden. I just want to say that that meeting was very productive. I think it was time well spent,
the warden was able to discuss some of his concerns, and some of the issues related to his
ability to do his job effectively when it comes to the care and maintenance of the facility. And
the board members were also able to express their concerns. And as a result of the productivity
associated with that meeting, everyone has agreed and is committed to continuing that pattern
of having executive sessions in advance of the meeting. So that's something we intend to
continue to do. So with that being said, warden Harper, would you please give us your report?

Yon I would like to report I want to commend the men and women working at the Allegheny
County Jail for the outstanding work that they are doing and continue to do. As I stated at last
month, we had COVID cases, almost up to 300 cases, and 15 to 16 pas there were isolated, I
am proud to report. We only have four positive incarcerated individuals in our facility and only
one isolated unit. Therefore, we are coming up with a plan to resume social visitation at our jail
before the next jail oversight board meeting. This this social visitation will be for loved ones
that are vaccinated and for inmates that are vaccinated. So by next month Your Honor we will
have social visitation at our jail if our COVID cases do not rise. That's all I have Your Honor.

Thank you. Any questions?
P Pat Catena 54:02

When is it our time to ask follow up questions concerning public comment just for clarification.

So my apologies, I didn't realize you might have had questions. I mean, so I apologize. Did you
have questions regarding public comments?
P Pat Catena 54:16

For the I guess, follow up questions to ask the warden so I can understand better. I am sorry,
my mics not on. I heard a few repeating things that seemed to go throughout all of the
comments here. One of them obviously, was staffing the staffing involved. And, Warden, can
you tell me how many vacancies we have in the Corrections Department?

I don't have that information. readily available. Mr. Catena. But I can get that to you.
P Pat Catena 54:46

P Pat Catena 54:46
Okay. Do you know Brian?

Right now we have 378 full time officers with 8 of that being cadets. As what two years ago we
had a numbers up into the four hundreds so [inaudible]
P Pat Catena 55:02

I'm sorry. Well--

We're short at least 50 officers.
P Pat Catena 55:07

Okay, thank you. Deputy Warden, how many vacancies are there in the medical and mental
health care departments?

I don't have that information readily available at this time Mr. Catena.
P Pat Catena 55:18

Okay. Would you say there's a decent amount? Or could you give a guesstimate?

I'm not going to guesstimate I can get that to you, sir.
P Pat Catena 55:25

Okay. So is again, what if you had to take a guess? Was it more or is it less?

Mr. Catena? If I may, a lot of these issues were discussed in the executive session earlier today.
Okay. So. So there was a concern about some of this information being disseminated publicly.
Okay. So. So there was a concern about some of this information being disseminated publicly.
So the warden will gladly have that conversation with you about these questions offline.
P Pat Catena 55:48

Okay. So he'll stay for after the meeting, and I can have a one on one with him?

I don't know if he'll do that. But he had a one on one with us earlier today, the Executive
Session. Yes, I'm sorry, Miss Klein?
T Terri Klein 55:59

as part of our board packet, there is a list of ACJ vacancies. So you have that information?
P Pat Catena 56:06

Is that the I guess I was confused, because that doesn't I don't think that jives with the other
numbers that I've seen. And that's why I was questioning that. That because I'm a numbers
person that the numbers just don't make sense to me. So that's why I was questioning the fact
what if that's, if that's the case, I'll go back and re review it. And I can touch base with with the
warden and Steve [Pilarski], and we can go from there.

That's what we would ask. Thank you very much. Any other questions, sir?
P Pat Catena 56:33

Not at this time. Thank you.

Anyone else have any questions regarding public comments? My apologies? Oh, all

right. Seeing none. We would like to hear from Chief Deputy Warden Beasom.

Thank you, Your Honor. Like to announce the promotion of Miss Blythe Toma, to the deputy
warden of administrative operations and employee development. That was a that was a
promotion that happened since the since the last board meeting. So we'd like to pass on our
congratulations to Deputy Warden Toma. If I could, I'd like to expand a little bit on the hiring
efforts. Last week, Thursday, and Friday, Saturday, and then again, yesterday on Tuesday, we
completed the physical agility portion of the hiring process for our cadet for our next Cadet
class. We had 15 successful candidates get through that phase and we'll move on to the
psychological test that is scheduled for next week. This this academy scheduled to begin in
early April. If there's any questions about that, I can take it. If not, I'm going to pass it off to Dr.
Brinkman.

Pat-- Mr. Catena?
P Pat Catena 57:45

thank you. You have 15 in the class, is there an average number you typically lose with a
psychological or No,

I couldn't say on average No, this is this is a psychological interview. So based on that with the
doctor, if they're if they're deemed not appropriate, then they're removed from consideration.
P Pat Catena 58:03

I mean, have you gone back though, historically, and ever looked at that factor? Now? I don't
have that information with me. Okay, could you go back and look to see how many we
technically lose, to see if there's somehow a gap in the process that we could sort of blog to
make sure all of the 15 cadets possibly make it through the process, and maybe catch the
screening on do a better job on the front end?

Sure. If it would be beneficial, I can tell you the overall process how we got down to these 15
candidates. So this applicant pool was we were taking applications from November 1 to
February 1 out of that time, we received 106 applicants from those 106 Only 30 signed up to
take the written portion of those 39 failed the written test. So obviously 21 passed and they
signed up for the physical agility test. We had four no shows for that and one failure for the
physical agility test giving us the current number of 15. But we can we can definitely look back
to see how many were eliminated from from the psychological portion.
P Pat Catena 59:06
Okay, so So if I heard you correctly, one out only 1/3 of the basically 1/3 signed up for the the
test. Yes. I mean, can you speculate as to why who numbers so low or

we don't have that information.
P Pat Catena 59:23

It just seems rather low to me. So I'm just trying to figure out a way to obviously boost that--

I can say traditionally we've had a large gap between the applicants that people show up that's
been the case for a long period of time we lose so many people that apply they just don't come
to take the test but that's always been a large gap.
P Pat Catena 59:40

Okay. Is there anything we can do to make

we've changed the test we've added feed lot of fee we prefer that everything but that we know
of just you know, openness solutions or options is but you know everything we've kind of
thought of try to get people in. But we just lose a large portion of people actually apply. They
go get other jobs because you have to have you know, there's a time period obviously we
traditionally have lost a large portion from application to actually take the test that's always
been a huge gap between those two.
P Pat Catena 1:00:18

Okay
J Judge Elliott Howsie 1:00:21

any additional questions? All right, Dr. Brinkman.
D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 1:00:38

Hello again, so I wanted to start with the COVID-19 update that we typically provide. So, the
Hello again, so I wanted to start with the COVID-19 update that we typically provide. So, the
numbers on the Allegheny County Jail website have been updated to reflect 3938 incarcerated
individuals have received a PCR viral diagnostic test for COVID 19 of those 479 or 12% have
been found to be positive throughout the duration of the pandemic. There are two we were
clearing some patients today so there are two incarcerated individuals presently positive in the
facility. Today's institutional count was 1506. We have had 3448 or 88% Negative PCR tests.
Currently we have 20 pending tests. We have zero incarcerated individuals hospitalized from
COVID 19. At this present time, we've utilized a large volume of rapid antigen tests to complete
surveillance testing on intake housing units and housing units where there has been evidence
of disease presence from February 1 of 2022 through February 28 1716, rapid antigen tests
have been offered with 1674 being negative or 98% and 30 positive which is 2%. In total, since
April 12 2021, we've offered 27,464 Rapid antigen tests 27,000 I miscalculated that, of those
948 were positive and 722 refused. So to To date, we've had a total of 955 positive cases since
the first diagnosed diagnosed case of an incarcerated individual and APR six for employees.
The Allegheny County Jail began surveillance testing on all employees beginning August 30
2021. Both County and contracted that present to the facility and have not demonstrated proof
of vaccination all presently working have at minimum initiated the vaccination process.
Throughout the pandemic, we have had 259 staff report positive results. Currently, we have
three individuals who continue the recovery process and have not yet returned to work. Since
our facility became an authorized vaccine provider, we have vaccination clinics on site
continuously. We're extremely grateful for the incarcerated individuals who elect to receive a
COVID-19 vaccination, especially with the presence of other variants raising case counts in the
community and with the ongoing desire to find normalcy during the pandemic. Additionally, we
have the capacity to provide boosters, booster vaccines in compliance with all
recommendations from the CDC. In total thus far, the Allegheny County jail has supported
vaccination of over 2415 incarcerated individuals and has provided over 424 Booster vaccine
doses. On site week on site we have stored Pfizer, Maderna in Janssen vaccines, we are
continuously offering these vaccines and complete vaccinations. Monday through Friday, we
have seen a decreasing interest in vaccinations amongst our incarcerated population and only
89 persons were interested in receiving the vaccine during February which was just under last
in what our numbers were in January. Last month, we reported 724 individuals who had
received their full series this month we have 672, which is 45% of the incarcerated individuals.
Despite continuous vaccination clinics, we have struggled to increase our percentage of the
incarcerated individuals who are vaccinated because of the transient nature of our population.

Any questions about COVID before I...?

I did have one question, you mentioned that you had 1,502 incarcerated individuals on your
population as of today.

Yes. When when I pulled the report of how many are currently incarcerated before coming to
the meeting? It was 1,506
Oh thought you said-- Okay, 1,506. How many people have tested positive currently?

Currently, we... We only have two right now that are recovering. Still in the recovery process
and are positive.

You don't-- is that-- you don't have anyone who's pending results or anything like that?

We do have some pending results. We've had a lot of results coming in today that haven't yet
been reviewed.

That number may be somewhat higher, it could be higher.

We have seen a significant decline in the positivity rates. But as far as positive cases at the
current time, you only have two.

Okay. Any other questions? No. Okay, I want to make sure. All right. Thank you very much.
Regarding the medication assisted treatment that date I don't know if there's more that you'd
like to--

I, our director, Todd Baumgardner is going to go over just for numbers for the whole
perspective of what medication assisted treatment we're doing. Okay.
T Todd Baumgardner 1:05:54

Todd Baumgardner 1:05:54
Thank you. Hi, good evening. The jail continues to provide medication assisted treatment for
the opioid use disorder and alcoholism by offering medications, including naltrexone and
Vivitrol for the treatment of alcohol and UD and suboxone and sublocade for the treatment. D
for the month of February, there are currently 19 individuals prescribed oral naltrexone 22.
unique individuals were prescribed oral nextra. Now naltrexone for the month of February.
Presently, we have 51 individuals who are prescribed buprenorphine, of that 12 individuals
receiving sublocade, which is the long acting injectable form of Suboxone. Thank you.

Any questions?

Mr. Catena?

Sorry, I don't mean to sound like a broken record here. But I understand you had an executive
session today but for the to the general public, I mean, we talked about the the staff shortages,
and we know there's medical personnel shortages and what have you, I guess what are we
doing to correct any of this and make sure the inmates are getting their medications on time is
the bottom line?

Anyone can answer that...
W Warden Orlando Harper 1:07:24

I mean, Mr. Catena, we do everything in our power to make sure that our incarcerated
individuals get the medications. Now, it may not be on time because we do encounter some
staffing issues. But we do everything in our power to make sure that they get the medications
that they're required to get. And that my staff do a real good job doing that.

I appreciate everything that your staff does, warden but again, I've heard lots of gotten lots of
complaints about it not happening in a timely fashion.

Mr. Catena, as I said, again: Sometimes it does not. Sometimes it don't.
Mr. Catena, as I said, again: Sometimes it does not. Sometimes it don't.

Is there something we can do better?

Give me more nurses.

Is there a reason? And you're smiling? So is there I mean, is there something else you want to
say?

No, it's not anything I want to say. Just like we've been saying this, I'm not going to be talking
about staff.

When you say give me more. What do you mean

what I'm saying, Mr. Catena, I'm not going to continue to talk about staffing issues in this
setting. But what I'm saying is we do everything in our power to provide the medications in a
timely fashion. And sometimes medications are late. And I'm just going to leave it at that.

Thank you. Just to clarify when you said "give me more." What did you mean by that comment?

I'm not going to comment any further on that in this setting. Mr. Catena. If you would like to
talk afterwards one on one we can talk.

Okay, okay. I'll take me up on that. All right.
Okay, okay. I'll take me up on that. All right.

Any other questions? What about the tracking the commitments to Torrance?

Our admissions were able to resume this past month and eight were admitted to Torrance and
we have still 20 who are waiting.

Is that typical when there's no pandemic or is it numbers higher or lower?

The numbers are higher and a longer wait time than pre pandemic.

Okay. Any questions? Okay.
T Terri Klein 1:09:27

I thought as part of the report we had asked for the waiting times understanding that it's not
the jails fault that people are waiting to get into Torrance but it just helps us.

So I can say that the longest waiting is since April of '21. And that is, in part because of their
their own illness and compliance with admission process. The ones that are are waiting longer
than December are typically from for that reason. Any additional questions? How many did you
say? Well, wait, did you have waiting? After the eight? You said eight went? already? Yeah,
yeah, eight went and we still are waiting on 20.

Thank you. Any other questions? All right. Thank you very much. Is there an update regarding a
plan to resume visits? I understand you said by the next meeting, you would warn you would
have information to update us with? Is there anything you can say today regarding the plan to
resume visits?
I don't want to get into the plan. Right yet me and my team, we're still trying to formulate a
plan as to how we could do it safely. So we're in the process of coming up with that plan, Your
Honor.

if I may, is the goal to have those meeting-- I'm sorry, those-- to resume jail visitation before
the next meeting? Or will you have a plan by the next meeting...?

We'll have social visitation before the next meeting if the cases remain as they are.

Okay, so your plan is to have them actually occurring by the next time we--

It will be taking place before the next meeting--

Provided the numbers--

If the numbers stay low.

Fair enough. Any questions? All right, thank you, warden. Is there any new business?
T Tracy Royston 1:11:21

I have something I wanted to bring up. Two things, actually. One: I know that in some cases,
they know we've decided to go back to in person meetings, I would suggest just because we've
learned so much from a pandemic about being able to work and participate remotely, that in
learned so much from a pandemic about being able to work and participate remotely, that in
the event that someone is unable to attend in person, that there should be an option for
remote as well. So I don't know if that is something that we would have to put to a vote or
something like that. But whether it be through some type of technology, or even through
speakerphone, I think that that should be an option.

Okay. Is that something we-- I don't know, is that something we can talk about in the executive
session?

Sure. I just wanted to bring that up. And then this might also be for the executive session, but
just another matter of business, we have been recording these meetings and putting them on
the website. So I'd like to move to the executive session to suggest that our minutes become
that which are just minutes and not verbatim notes of each meeting.

Okay, so we'll make a motion.

So I know we don't do notes for the executive session, I just meant that we could do summary
minutes rather than verbatim minutes moving forward.

So why don't we do this out of an abundance of caution, see what the legal ramifications are
regarding that. But I do understand Ms Carroll's position [not sure who Ms. Carroll is] regarding
that, and we've had a conversation in the past about that. That's something that has definitely
on my list of things to address. So we'll look into the legal obligations regarding taking notes,
and we'll we'll come up with an informed decision. Is that okay?

That's fine. Okay. And my last point, if I could just add the board, I don't know whether it's a
vote or something. But there are two individuals who have waited very patiently. And if we
have the 10 minutes of five minutes each, I would like to allow them the opportunity to speak.

So the problem. The problem with that is that there is a process that they didn't sign up, they
So the problem. The problem with that is that there is a process that they didn't sign up, they
didn't arrive on time. It's not fair to the it's not fair to the other people who we've cut off from
their public comments, because of time constraints and time limits that we have for emails, it's
not fair to them to cut certain people off and not read their comments and allow them to show
up late and allow them to be heard. It's not fair.

I understand that. But we did not cut anybody off today, people did go over. And we are at a
point where we're taking much less time than we have in most meetings. So I'm just suggesting
that as a matter of course, moving forward, it will be in the public record that this is our policy
moving forward. But I would just suggest that we allow for it.

I understand. And my position would be that there is a process in place, people have to comply
with it. And it's not fair to the people who didn't comply. And it's also not fair to the people that
we did not read their public comments because their comments were submitted late. We
received comments as late as today that were not read and included in this meeting. So in the
future if you do want to present in a meeting you are more than welcome to do so. We just ask
that you arrive in a timely fashion up on the sheet or submit your comments before the public
before the cutoff, and the close of receiving those comments. Does anyone have any other new
business?

Judge, for the record I don't object to hearing them either. So...

Okay. Any other... any other public...? I mean, I'm sorry, any other new business?
N Not Sure 1:15:19

I'm sorry to interrupt, but I know Bethany Hallam sent a motion.

Exactly.
N Not Sure 1:15:23

I didn't I didn't want you to forget.
But that's what I was trying to see if anyone wanted to put that forward. Yeah. Mr. Catena. Ms.
Royston. Anyone have a motion on behalf of Bethany?

I don't have the motion for the--
1:15:35
It was for the Inmate Welfare [fund].
N Not Sure 1:15:37

Yes, yes, her when she does every month.

If someone wants to put it forward, I'll second that.

I don't have the exact figures. But you're saying that there's 1,056 [incarcerated people]--

$100 per inmate.

So multiply that times 100. So there would be a motion to approve $100 per inmate of 1,056
inmates for their commissary and Technology Fund.

We want--
G Gayle Moss 1:16:09

I'll second.

$150,600.

Mhmm. Right.

Seconded?

Yes sir.

All in favor? [several voices say "aye"].

Any opposed? [No one objects.]

So moved.
N Not Sure 1:16:27

So, should we vote on the commiss--

It was just one because it's now the money goes on the tablet.
We combined them. We combine them now.

There's just one motion. Alright.

Is there any new business? Additional new business?

Sheriff, make a motion to adjourn. Anyone second that motion? Meeting is adjourned.

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J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:00

P Pat Catena 00:05

J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:06

G Gayle Moss 00:07

J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:08

T Tracy Royston 00:10

J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:13

T Terri Klein 00:14

J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:15

J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:19

S Sheriff Kevin Kraus 00:20

J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:21

S Steve Pilarski 00:22

J Judge Elliott Howsie 00:25

M Myesha Howes 01:50

M Myesha Howes 02:12

M Myesha Howes 02:57

M Myesha Howes 03:39

M Myesha Howes 04:08

M Myesha Howes 04:45

M Myesha Howes 05:36

M Myesha Howes 06:28

D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 06:37

D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 07:20

M Myesha Howes 08:29

J Judge Elliott Howsie 08:36

D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 08:44

J Judge Elliott Howsie 09:41

M Myesha Howes 10:18

J Judge Elliott Howsie 10:55

T Terri Klein 11:04

M Myesha Howes 11:08

J Judge Elliott Howsie 11:32

P Pat Catena 11:33

D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 11:52

P Pat Catena 12:32

D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 12:36

P Pat Catena 12:40

D Dr. Ashley Brinkman 12:42

P Pat Catena 13:29

J Judge Elliott Howsie 13:38

A Adam Zack 14:22

J Judge Elliott Howsie 15:13

S Steve Pilarski 15:16

A Adam Zack 15:20

J Judge Elliott Howsie 15:34

A Adam Zack 15:41

J Judge Elliott Howsie 15:49

T Tracy Royston 15:50

A Adam Zack 15:58

T Tracy Royston 16:02

A Adam Zack 16:03

T Tracy Royston 16:04

J Judge Elliott Howsie 16:05

A Adam Zack 16:08

J Judge Elliott Howsie 16:09

J Judge Elliott Howsie 16:11

A Adam Zack 16:13

J Judge Elliott Howsie 16:18

A Adam Zack 16:25

J Judge Elliott Howsie 16:26

F Frank Scherer 16:37

F Frank Scherer 17:08