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"Satya Sai Baba's" |"Satya Sai" |"sai baba" |"satya sai baba"
Contents
1 Lectures
1.1 Philosophy Discussions
2 Conversations and Morning Walks
2.1 1971 Conversations and Morning Walks
2.2 1972 Conversations and Morning Walks
2.3 1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
2.4 1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
2.5 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
2.6 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
2.7 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
3 Correspondence
3.1 1974 Correspondence
3.2 1975 Correspondence
3.3 1976 Correspondence
Lectures
Philosophy Discussions
Philosophy Discussion on Henri Bergson:
Śyāmasundara: But the modern interpretation of the word mystic is something different.
People take mystic to mean someone who is very mysterious and magic.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It has come to that. God consciousness... Just like at the present moment
if a guru can show some miracles, just like that Sai Baba, so they accept. That's a mystic.
Philosophy Discussion on The Evolutionists Thomas Huxley, Henri Bergson, and Samuel
Alexander:
Prabhupāda: Yes. It has come to that. God consciousness... Just like at the present moment,
if a guru can show some miracles, just like that Sai Baba, (laughter) so they accept that he's
mystic. Yes.
Conversations and Morning Walks
1971 Conversations and Morning Walks
Discussion with Indians -- January 18, 1971, Allahabad:
Prabhupāda: ...a bona fide spiritual master. Bona fide spiritual master means who carries out
the order of higher authorities. Otherwise he is not spiritual master. Anyone who
manufactures his own process of religion, that is rascaldom. dharmāṁ tu sakṣād
bhagavat-praṇitam (SB 6.3.19). Just like lawyer, representative of the law, means who
carries the order of the supreme executive. He is lawyer. Similarly, a spiritual master means
who carries the order of superior authority. We are carrying the order of Caitanya
Mahāprabhu or Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa taught this Bhagavad-gītā, and He has said that "Anyone who
will preach this confidential message of Bhagavad-gītā, he is very dear to Me."
Guest (1): (indistinct) ...and believers in Sai Baba and other we believe in an incorporeal
God, nirākāra. So if Kṛṣṇa as Rāma or any other deity or devata, one who was definitely a
superior ātman, no doubt about it, but Paramātman is all other religions' God, if something
incorporeal is there, without referring to the...
Guest (1): Śiva-liṅga. You find it all over India, that, a summary of everything, that
incorporeal form, jyotir-rūpa, incorporeal. Jyotir-liṅga, the Hindu svarūpa.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. You are bringing something else besides Bhagavad-gītā. Just
try to understand. We are preaching... This International Society for Krishna Consciousness,
we are preaching...
Prabhupāda: But another rascal will be victim of that tricks. Why shall I accept him as God?
Dr. Patel: (Hindi) A magician in Gujarat, some Muslim magician. He would ask, not ask for a
(indistinct)
Dr. Patel: Mama Chel. There was one man called Mama Chel. And when the ticket taker
comes and asks for a ticket he would say, "All right, take this," and there would be a heap of
tickets, railway tickets.
Dr. Patel: A magician he was. He would stop that train. Stand behind and stop the train.
Stop. He must, people must have got some siddhis by...
Prabhupāda: Sai Baba. He is showing little yogic aiśvarya. But people are, because they do
not know, they are not aware of Kṛṣṇa, they are taking him as God. You see?
Girirāja: (reads rest of synonyms for this verse) "Translation: If you think that I am able to
behold Your cosmic form, O my Lord, O master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that
universal self."
Prabhupāda: Now, here is the description of how God manifests. So unless one reads
Bhagavad-gītā carefully, they will be misled by this avatāra, that avatāra, that avatāra. You
see?
Prabhupāda: That is, means rascal. He does not see Kṛṣṇa's wonderful. If you want to see
wonderful things, why don't you see the more wonderful things? But they are foolish; they
are captivated with small wonderful things. That means less intelligent. Just like small
children, they will be amazed by seeing small wonderful things, but his father will not be.
What is the amazement, wonderful thing, Sai Baba has done? If he is creator of gold, then
why he is doing business of incense? You know that? He has a big incense business exactly
like us. He can create gold? Why there is incense business? (break) Caitanya Mahāprabhu
used to give to His mother some gold when there was need of money. "Mother, I got this
gold. So you can utilize it." The mother would think that "We are poor men, we have no gold.
Wherefrom this boy brings gold?" So he (she) was doubtful because he (she) was thinking,
"My son is mad, sometimes crazy." So he (she) would go, "Is it real gold? Just see." Then.
"Yes, it is real gold." "Hm, how He got it?" You see. (break) ...many yogis, they make such
gold for meeting their expenditures. Yes. Still in India they know how to make gold from
copper. Yes. The process is they will drink mercury at night, and in the morning they will
urine on the copper coins. And then, after some hours, the copper coins taken and put into
the fire, it becomes gold. And it is scientific that some molecules of mercury, if mixed with
copper, it is gold.
Priest: Millions.
Prabhupāda: Millions, trillions, that is another thing. But we have to see what is the disciple.
That we have to see. Simply if somebody... So many disciples by number, we have to see
the quality. What is the quality, not the number, not the quantity.
Prabhupāda: No, no. He's a cheater. People want to be cheated. They come to sādhu for
some material benefit. Don't you see that people are so much anxious to touch the feet of a
sādhu? What is the reason? Reason is that if he gets some favor of the sādhu, "Then I shall
be happy materially." That's all. They have no idea, becoming servant of Kṛṣṇa. Āśīrvāda
(Hindi).
Reporter (2): No, just like that. Just like.... I am just going.... I am very far removed from
these...
Prabhupāda: No, no, why you are interested.... Twice, thrice you have said Sai Baba.
Reporter (2): No, just like that. Just like.... I am just going.... I am very far removed from
these...
Prabhupāda: No, no, why you are interested.... Twice, thrice you have said Sai Baba.
Reporter (2): No, anybody. Because he is among the better-known people. I, I am, I have
nothing to do with.
Reporter (2): It could be someone like, say, the Bala Yogeshwara, who also got some kind of
following there.
Prabhupāda: That is.... That has spoiled our India's Vedic culture. Everyone has invented
some ways, and they have misled the general people, people, followers. That is the
misfortune of modern India. Yes. The standard instruction is there in the Bhagavad-gītā.
They do not care to know it. They want to know about the greatness of Bala Yogi, Sai Baba,
this bābā, that bābā. That is their misfortune. They give up the real instruction,
Bhagavad-gītā, which is accepted by the great ācāryas—Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya,
Śaṅkarācārya, Caitanya Mahāprabhu—and all over the world, they are not interested to
know Bhagavad-gītā; they are interested to know about Sai Baba. Just see misfortune.
Prabhupāda: They have become overintelligent. Not simple intelligent but overintelligent.
That is.... They are not overintelligent. That is the facility for them. We are preaching Kṛṣṇa is
the Supreme Lord. That is in the śāstra and the Vedas, in everywhere. But you won't believe
it. You'll say, "Why Kṛṣṇa Supreme God? Another.... Here is God. Here is God." Hundreds
and thousands of Gods you'll bring. That is the difficulty.
Conversation with Prof. Saligram and Dr. Sukla -- July 5, 1976, Washington, D.C.:
Dr. Sukla: We have another mentally retarded person in India, Sai Baba.
Prabhupāda: Yes, magic.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Anyway, we are not after all this magic. We are laymen. We do not want
this magic, neither we want to show magic. We simply, as canvasser of Kṛṣṇa, we are
preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness, "Sir, Kṛṣṇa says like this, you do like that," that's all. If you
like, you can do; otherwise let us do our own business. We don't show any magic, neither we
speak anything which is not in the Bhagavad-gītā. If there is little success, it is due to this
secret, that's all. (Bengali) Kṛṣṇa says that He is Supreme, mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat (BG
7.7). So we are preaching, "Yes, Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme," that's all.
Indian man: Now there are some people in our community there at Poughkeepsie, they are
all followers of Satya Sai Baba, and they were telling me that "Anyone you pray, Kṛṣṇa,
Rāma, Viṣṇu, it comes to Satya Sai Baba." I said, "Don't tell me that nonsense," I said.
(laughter) "Satya Sai Baba is not Kṛṣṇa, and don't tell me that." In fact for Guru Pūrṇimā they
invited me to Satya Sai Baba's bhajana. I said, "No, I have my guru. I'm very happy. Don't
disturb me. I have Kṛṣṇa, I have my guru, and I have my path. I don't have to go to
anybody's gurus, and I don't have to take anyone's teachings." I say, "My Gītā is here,
written by Prabhupāda. I follow it, and that's it. I don't have to have extraordinary brains to
follow everyone's Gītā or everything else. Here is my path."
Indian man: Right. In fact, several people, even in our community in Poughkeepsie, received
letters from Satya Sai Baba's followers that "Here is a letter. Make ten copies and send the
ten copies to ten different people. If you don't, Satya Sai Baba's thunderbolt will come and
strike your family, and they'll be destroyed." Now no guru ever puts a thunderbolt on his
devotee, and I said, "If that is a guru, I'll stay ten thousand miles away from him, because my
guru is very kind and he'll bless me." I said, "No guru should ever put a thunderbolt on his
devotee."
Room Conversation About Blitz News Clipping -- August 21, 1976, Hyderabad:
Prabhupāda: Charge in the court, "What do you know about godly that you have charge us
ungodly." Then it will be exposed. Do, immediately do. Immediately plan to bring in the court.
Hari-śauri: Actually, in the same newspaper they were doing a whole thing about Sai Baba.
They had a big article about Sai Baba.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Sai Baba has a very big political following, including the chief minister of
Bombay also.
Gargamuni: Home Ministers, Home Ministers wear his ring, Sai Baba ring.
Prabhupāda: We don't touch about Sai Baba. We charge him, "What do you know about
godly?" Don't bring any other men. Don't try to become that "All are useless, we are
important." No. But whatever they are there. But they have directed "ungodly." "What do you
know about godly, that you have said as ungodly?" Let him explain. And we are background
Bhagavad-gītā, approved. So why you are taking my pad?
Room Conversation About Blitz News Clipping -- August 21, 1976, Hyderabad:
Hari-śauri: That's Sai Baba.
Pradyumna: One man is trying to prove Sai Baba is fraud. One professor.
Hari-śauri: He's a scientist. He says he can prove that Sai Baba's making things appear and
disappear is just a trick.
Pradyumna: But there's something very interesting. When he manifests something, he gives
evidence, he says, "This cannot be a creation, because to be a creation, to be God you must
be creator. To be creator you must produce something which is uniquely not made by
anyone else." So he said he's only making things that are already created by someone
else—a watch. So he is...
Hari-śauri: He's producing a watch, then it's a watch that's made by some manufacturer. It's
not made by Sai Baba. Like that. So there was a comment that even if he has some... He
may have some supernatural power, but he's not God.
Room Conversation About Blitz News Clipping -- August 21, 1976, Hyderabad:
Pradyumna: He has some yogic siddhi, but he cannot be God because he does not create.
Prabhupāda: So this paper is against Sai Baba also?
Pradyumna: No. On the front page it says... Because he is doing a lot of educational... He
has made all these universities and health centers and everything. So it says that he is doing
good to the people. So for that reason they said, "We don't want to see him criticized."
Pradyumna: No, it is just a challenge. The Bangalore University, some people at Bangalore
University want to investigate his things. And then Sai Baba sometimes, he won't submit to
be examined.
Prabhupāda: He submits?
Room Conversation About Blitz News Clipping -- August 21, 1976, Hyderabad:
Hari-śauri: Still, even if he can do those things, it's only mystic siddhi. That doesn't mean to
say he's God or an avatāra or anything. But these people are so foolish they think anybody
with a little magic, he must be avatāra.
Pradyumna: They worship him as God. "Bhagavan Sai Baba."
Prabhupāda: Anyway, we must bring this man charges. "Ungodly face."
Hari-śauri: Just like it says in the Bhagavad-gītā, they think religion is irreligion...
Pradyumna: That we... He said he has "Now unmasked the ungodly face of Kṛṣṇa cult." That
we're putting on a false face of being devotees of Kṛṣṇa, but actually we have an ungodly
purpose. That we want to...
Pradyumna: That he does not come out and say, but he implies that we are foreign, that we
want to exploit India somehow.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, they are feeling the weight. Now they are feeling the weight. That is
the progress. Otherwise, if our movement would have been a trifle thing, the government
and newspapers they would not have taken care. Now they are feeling that this movement is
going to be more and more important, all over the world.
Prabhupāda: He is... What is called avatāra? He has no, nothing on the śāstra basically. And
anyone who has no śāstra basics, he's useless. Yaḥ śāstra-vidhim utsṛjya vartate
kāma-kārataḥ na sa siddhim avāpnoti (BG 16.23). He can cheat so many fools and rascals,
it has no meaning. That is described in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam about this kind of guru.
They have been condemned in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. I think you'll find out at the end of the
Twenty-fourth Chapter, Eighth Canto. They have been condemned. (break) Now what is the
benefit? From rational point of view, suppose he can manufacture gold. That is his jugglery.
Eh? He can manufacture some gold? So far I have heard. I've not seen.
Prabhupāda: If he can do so, can he save him from death? If he's so powerful.
Hari-śauri: Yes, and this man goes on to describe the aura. He goes on to describe how
spiritual his presence is. They chant oṁkāra. They chant oṁkāra.
Pradyumna: Well, it depends where we want to send it for publishing. To this or to another
magazine.
Prabhupāda: (dictating:) Only the rascals and less intelligent class of men think that God is
formless and when He incarnates, He takes a particular form. In this connection, a verse
from Yāmunācārya may be quoted as follows. You have quoted the Bhagavad-gītā? That
quote?
Pradyumna: Now here's the quote. "Baba personifies this philosophy. As he told me, 'God is
man and man is God. All of us have something of God, the divine spark, within us. All men
are divine, like myself, with the spirit embodied in human flesh and bone. The only difference
is that they are unaware of this Godhood.' " I'll get it for you.
Prabhupāda: So?
Pradyumna: Here he says, "The mission of the present avatāra is to make everybody realize
that since the same God or divinity resides in everyone, people should respect, love, and..."
Prabhupāda: No, no. If he resides in everyone, then why he has special claim?
Haṁsadūta: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Sai Baba is actually doing that brainwash. But they don't think of... (break)
Haṁsadūta: Yes, because people cannot discriminate. They have no power to discriminate.
They group us with all these other bogus people.
Prabhupāda: But that happened when Caitanya Mahāprabhu was being praised by the
Nawab. They were asking about Caitanya Mahāprabhu, "What is the position of this man
that so many people are following him?" So, Sanātana Goswami, who was very bright, took
it as a warning and asked Caitanya Mahāprabhu that you leave this place as soon as
possible.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That should, action should be there. If we come out successful in this,
how you say, messing, and that will be very good. It is called that, messing?
Prabhupāda: This is going on. What? People also do not ask that "How you become God?"
That's also so foolish. They accept any rascal as God. That Rajneesh, what he is? He
advertises "Bhagavān," and there are many rascals, they accept him. What he has done?
(Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Does that mean we have to accept him? That does not mean we accept.
(break) ...one is against this movement because we are presenting Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme.
(break)
Morning Walk -- December 5, 1976, Hyderabad: Guest (7) (Indian man): Satya Sai Baba
says...
Prabhupāda: Satya Sai Baba is not authority.
Morning Walk -- December 5, 1976, Hyderabad:
Prabhupāda: Why...? Magic is magic. That is another thing. That is not knowledge.
Guest (7): Suppose if I want to talk here Kṛṣṇa consciousness among the masses...
Guest (7): I have got belief in God, and so Narendra, my friend was sitting by my side. "No, if
I sit there only, he will go that way. I want to see him this side."
Room Conversation with Life Member, Mr. Malhotra -- December 22, 1976, Poona:
Prabhupāda: And this is the fact, Kṛṣṇa says. What Kṛṣṇa says you have to accept.
Otherwise, what is the use of reading Bhagavad-gītā? You cannot accept Bhagavad-gītā
through your whims. That is nonsense. You must accept as it is. That is wanted.
Mr. Malhotra: This Satya Sai Baba, he is also disciple of Kṛṣṇa. How he produces...?
Prabhupāda: Then if he is disciple of Kṛṣṇa, he would not have foolishly said that he is
Bhagavān. That means he is bogus. It is bogus... You cannot say... You are disciple... Just
like they are my disciples. They will never say that they are equal to me. They will never say.
Dr. Patel: They say that they are worshiping the guru as God. And why not as their guru?
Gargamuni: Now there's another Sai Baba. He has the same hairs and everything. He's in
competition. He's called something else. He's also from the South.
Gargamuni: Yes. But Sai Baba is under fire now because they say that he produces small
things which he can hide in his robe. So they ask, "Why can't you make a big thing? Like a
big pumpkin or something big? Why only apples and oranges and small things? (laughter)
Why don't you make a big thing?" Some scientists at Bangalore University, they have
started...
Gargamuni: No. He says, "I have come. You can accept me or reject me."
Nanda-kumāra: Some people say they put a picture of him on their altar, and honey drips
from the picture, and they collect it, and it gives them health.
Gargamuni: This Tarun Kanti Ghosh, he wears a ring, Sai Baba ring. He is wearing. We
always make joke with him.
Prabhupāda: Acchā?
Gargamuni: "This is not Mahāprabhu. How you can wear this? This is foreign." So he laughs.
We make joke with him, "Why you are wearing this ring? This is not in your custom to follow
this..."
Prabhupāda: He is hodge-podge. But he has got love for Caitanya. That will save.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes. They were saying, those two Bengali gentlemen this morning, the
film producers, were saying that the scholars here now and some of the newspaper people
are beginning to expose, that "This is a complete cheater. This Sai Baba is cheating, and
why are the innocent people falling for him? What kind of fool is he that he says he's God?"
It's a good thing that they're exposing him, because he was the most acclaimed so-called
"bhagavān" of them all. He is the most respected around India of all of these bogus gurus.
Bali-mardana: Now all the other gurus have faded away. You are...
Bali-mardana: You're the only one left. All the bogus gurus have faded away. The
Maharishi...
Prabhupāda: That Sadaji Vilal has said that "Bhaktivedanta Swami... (Hindi)"
Gargamuni: None of them. Especially in India, this will be a great attraction, if we speak
these subjects... We should call a press conference. Whenever these scientists make some
new discovery they hold a press conference. So we should also hold a press conference and
say "Life comes from life."
Prabhupāda: That will come automatically. We are not very great scientists.(?) Let us speak
important institute.
Mr. Myer: I went one day. I was sitting. I watched him, and he said "Come with me," and... It
was a while back. So like that, he's... But then when I told him about ISKCON he's definitely
interested to know all about that. Because my eldest brother, he became a member first in
Māyāpura about four or five years ago.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda said Sai Baba has been exposed in so many ways now.
Mr. Myer: Yes. Biggest problem with him is, see, that he has some sort of a charm over
people. Mainly people who go to him, they want some miracles. People who want some...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mr. Myer: He is chewing pān twenty-four hours a day. His teeth are all red. Most of the time,
when he goes there, he is...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda said he doesn't just chew pān. He drinks. He's a heavy drinker.
Mr. Myer: But these are all nothing. It is all temporary. When the sun shines, then all these
little glows, they just automatically go off.
Correspondence
1974 Correspondence
Letter to Dr. Santosh Kumar -- Bombay 20 December, 1974: I am in due receipt of your letter
dated 18, November 1974. I thank you very much for your kind appreciations of our
movement. Actually this Hare Krsna Movement is going all over the world, because the
message of Lord Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is spoken. I am just like a
peon carrying the message of Lord Krsna and Lord Krsna's message, being perfect, it will be
appreciated everywhere in any part of the universe. So far others are concerned, as you
spoke of Satya Sai Baba, he wants to claim himself as Bhagavan, unfortunately. He can not
give any faultless message. The definition of Bhagavan is given in the sastras as one who
possesses six kinds of opulences. Nobody is greater than Bhagavan, Krsna. Therefore if we
take Krsna's message we will actually be benefited, otherwise not. It will be partial and
insufficient.
1975 Correspondence
Letter to Mahamsa -- Honolulu 3 June, 1975: Regarding Acyutananda's preaching, what is
the use of criticizing Sai Baba and creating some enemies? Do not do this in public
meetings. It is different to do it in a private meeting. You can discuss all details about the
farm with Hamsaduta and then do the needful. He will be coming there very soon. Anyway I
am forwarding your report to him for his information. Regarding registration with the
Endowments dept., you can discuss this with Gopala Krishna.
1976 Correspondence
Letter to Riddha -- Detroit 15 June, 1976: In that newspaper, The Leader, it is very good
indication of our acceptance by the South African community. They are clearly rejecting all
these bogus rascals like Sai Baba and in the same issue they are glorifying our Rathayatra
festival. So this is good sign that they welcome Jagannatha and so you can arrange to have
Jagannatha Deities and Rathayatra festival in Durban. Just like when I first began our
Rathayatra in San Francisco, all we had was a flatbed truck for the Ratha-cart. So do it
immediately. They are eager for it, and this will give life to the Hindus in South Africa.
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