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Length of Session: 50 minutes
Seminar Aims Think about how we construct historical arguments & test them.
(Pirenne on Islam & Charlemagne)
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Arrangement
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- 12 minutes to consider the highlighted bit and the source in
general. Final 3 minutes to think about what Charlemagne
means for Western Europe. Think not just of the wider geo-
political stuff (orientation of the papacy), but in terms of
Charlemagne’s aims and his style of rule – what does he
want to achieve? Is he changing the nature of ‘rule’?
Issues to cover
Slide 6: Pirenne
- What is Pirenne’s argument? – Germanic invasions don’t drastically alter roman Europe,
either in terms of culture or its trade links with the Mediterranean, even when there was no
longer an emperor in the west. Rise of Islam is what breaks this situation, severing links
between the northern and southern Mediterranean, and forcing those in Northern Europe
to look their own lands, and to the North Sea for trade links etc.
- What are the problems with it? - Trade is already declining between north and south
Mediterranean by 600, and the Islamic conquests do not seem to have destroyed what was
left. Reality is that Germanic invasions/successor kingdoms did disrupt western roman
culture/trade links, as did the various wars in Italy and North Africa before the 7C. Islamic
conquests only change things insofar as they create new political players and introduce a
new religious dynamic.
- What are the issues with sources on Islamic history? – Many Islamic sources not
contemporary: late 7C, and the Quran is not a historical text, but a religious/legal one, with
chronology not set out clearly (Collins). Moreover, contemporary non Islamic sources are
also very patchy, no clear idea of what is going on, or understanding of what Islam is.
- What can we do to overcome it? - Material culture? Use sources but treat them with
care? Corroborate where possible?
- How does the rise of Charlemagne change Europe? – geo-political + religious sense: breaks
the papacy away from Constantinople and turns it westward. Brings previously pagan
peoples like the Saxons into nominal Christian fold. Consolidates Frankish kingdom into an
empire. Imposes identities on subject peoples via laws, (making ‘Aquitainians’ use an
‘Aquitanian’ law etc).
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godly society, but also creates a literate/semi-literate class of people who can be
administrators as a by-product. Also attracts scholars from all over Europe to this end:
Italians Paul the Deacon, Alcuin etc.
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