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You may be tempted to run P&ID inside of Plant too, but I have run into lots of little
problems (double-click broken sometimes, P&ID turns O-Snaps off), so I recommend
against it.
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SPECVIEW–Quick changes
Posted on May 10, 2011 215 by Dave Wolfe 226 Posted in CADWorx, Plant
It’s funny how topics are brought to mind. Every time I install or update CADWorx, I
have a couple tweaks that I always make. First I always want Equipment loaded
inside of Plant, and second I always change my spec view settings. Today we’ll go
over some quick changes I like to make on the Spec View Palette. Incidentally, I just
realized that KP did a post on this almost exactly a year ago, which goes over some
great options if you really want to have some fun.
So here’s a screen shot of my settings:
I click show optional because I want to be able to place my optional components
without my SPECOPTIONTOGGLE on, and I always want to see socket weld and
threaded. Generally, you shouldn’t have Show All Components checked, because you
can’t take advantage of one of the key features of the palette – it auto-filters
components based on size and availability in your spec.
Last, I also choose the View 3 because it’s laid out exactly like the spec editor so I’m
more familiar with it. Below is a view of my working spec editor.
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Disconnects in ISOGEN
Posted on April 8, 2011 216 by Dave Wolfe 226 Posted in CADWorx, ISOGEN, Plant
For many years, troubleshooting pipe connectivity for ISOGEN was…well, annoying
to say the least. Typically, the process went something like this:
1. Run an iso/isos.
2. Get a list of lines with disconnects.
3. View the generated failed iso’s to see where the disconnect was shown.
4. Fix the disconnects that were indicated.
5. Isolate lines that couldn’t have drawings generated.
6. Erase half the line and see if it would iso. If it did, then the other half contained the error.
Repeat until the error located.
I got away from using the CONTINUITY command because it really didn’t seem to
show all that much (and I got tired of erasing those little bubbles).
Thankfully, the latest update of CADWorx 2010 contains an AWESOME new tool.
You will probably want to create a PGP entry for this one –
DISCONTINUITYVIEW. Alternatively, get used to entering DIS + TAB and you’ll
get to the command fairly quickly as well. In any case, below is an image of the
wonderful new palette.
One button transforms the steps above (all 6 repeated on multiple lines ) to this:
or this:
All of the lines in your model, including x-refs! I can’t tell you how excited I was
about this feature. It literally (and I remember those days) can cut days/weeks off
production time. Here’s a rundown of the rest of the buttons. My second favorite is
the scissors. If you select components that are overlapping items (the same
components placed EXACTLY on top of each other) and then push this handy button,
CADWorx clears out the extras leaving one in the model so you can iso the line
correctly.
I hope you enjoy the discontinuity palette as much as I do!
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Reference Type
The reference type option is confusing at first for people who aren’t used to thinking
about it. Most of the time we work with other drawing files like they are blocks…
they just come in every time we want them. The Attach reference type acts most like
a block. It’s going to pull the file specified every time it can (even if you already have
it in a different drawing that is already referenced). Because it always brings the
drawing in, the Attach option can cause circular references. In general, you nearly
always want to use the Overlay option. However, just because there can be bad side
effects doesn’t mean the attach option shouldn’t be used.
Let’s assume we have 3 drawings, 1 steel model (steel.dwg), a piping model
(piping.dwg), and an equipment model (equip.dwg).
As a piper, every time I open up the piping.dwg, I need to see the equipment. In
addition, I want anyone who uses my piping model as an xref, to see the equipment.
Otherwise, my steel guy will have to figure out what pieces of equipment need to be
inserted into my piping model. In this situation, the reference type should be set to
attachment so that everyone will always see my equipment with the steel.
Let’s look at this from the other side, as a steel designer I need to see the piping and
equipment. However, I don’t want anyone who references my model to see the piping
and the equipment (especially the pipers!). In this situation (and most others) the
reference type should be set to overlay, since I’m not concerned that my reference to
piping/equipment get passed on downstream.
Hopefully, that explanation is clear. Like I said, this concept can take a while to wrap
your head around, but once you do, it can solve a lot of problems.
On the troubleshooting side, often times when creating piping layouts, designers may
wonder where a piece of equipment is. If you can see it in the piping model, but not
in the layout drawing chances are it got referenced as an overlay instead of an
attachment.
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1. Use a template to create the models. In our sample setup, we are going to use the
coordinates template from our post on creating a project ucs.
2. The more folders you use, the more times you (and everyone else) will have to click to get
to a particular file. Keep your folder structure to a minimum, so you can spend more time
working on the file, and less time explaining where it is and getting to it.
3. Setting up a standard file naming system will help navigation (and allow you to use less
folders). For our sample project our model naming convention will be Area N Type.dwg
where N is a number larger than 0 and Type is a selection from the following (Piping,
Equipment, Overall). I like to use Area at the start because most of our work in done in
these models, so you don’t have to scroll far to find them.
4. Store a configuration file in the folders. CADWorx will automatically use the cfg from
the current folder when it opens a drawing. The only downside I’ve found to this is that
currently the NUMBERPID/NUMBERSET (Process Drawings) prompt to select a
database instead of using the db from the cfg. This only occurs if the P&ID’s are kept in
separate folders from the piping models.
5. Make a shortcut in your open dialog box, it beats navigation to the project folder every
time.
In the walkthrough sample, I created an Area 1 Equipment.dwg file using the
Coordinates.dwt template, and for our purposes, we will use the following project
folder structure:
As you can guess, the blocks folder is for project specific blocks. Reference materials
will hold cut sheets or other relevant project information. The Drawings folder will
hold all my models and drawings.
The individual equipment models (one per equipment tag) are stored in the equipment
folder since there could be many files. The Master Models folder will hold Building
models (multiple areas all grouped together). The external reference hierarchy will
look something like this:
This allows other disciplines to reference an entire building at one time if they need it,
and give the ability to isolate sections of it for better performance. In the next post
we’ll discuss how external references should be created/setup.
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3. The reference line can also be a great time saver. Instead of having to calculate the
distances from dimensions from the start of the cylinder or head, we can set up a
reference to match the dimensions given in our cut sheet.
4. Isogen and Equipment – When I first started using CADWorx my co-workers and I
had several long discussions on what to model, and how we were going to model.
Steel was almost a no-brainer, but some felt we could get by without modeling in
CADWorx Equipment since it was another application to learn. At the end of the
project, we all ended up agreeing – model virtually everything. Equipment is nice
because you get standard nozzle callouts on your Isogen isometrics. While there are
other ways to put nozzle callouts on an iso, They are formatted slightly different from
Equipment, so my recommendation is that all piping/equipment connections are done
with CADWorx Equipment. The other part of this tip: don’t use equipment to model
an inline item. When running an Isometric CADWorx uses the line number to walk
down the components. When CADWorx Equipment model is in the line, you will get
a disconnect.
5. The fastest way to model using CADWorx Equipment? Don’t. Yes, I said that.
This tip really needs to be in the hands of the project manager or someone who has
input on deliverables from Equipment vendors. If you are having Equipment designed
as part of your project, do everything in your power to have your vendor use PV Elite
to design the vessels, and the manager should make the PV Elite files (.pvi) a
deliverable required from the vendor. From there you have a 1-click Import to model
the vessel in Equipment.
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Download the feature walk through: ECAD Database for CADWorx Readme (189 downloads)
The goal in creating this database was to add functionality that users request on a regular basis. The
highlights include aiding the process of creating a line list, populating the drawing names for process
lines, and matched equipment, importing data from a project, exporting a pipeline attributes file to
ISOGEN, export a query to Excel with a button, some general form cleanup, and linking to a SQL
database. Also included with the database are a database.tbl (P&ID database table file) and a batch
to allow using the database as the default when creating a new project.
On a personal note, I wish I would have had this when I was designing as it would have made my life
much easier. This database brings additional functionality that reflects years of learning P&ID. For
the first time, you can have drawing names for linked lines in your line lists. Also, with this database,
it’s easy to test what your project will look like since we import the data from other projects leaving
your live project secure.
To whet your appetite included in this post is a link to download a pdf walking through all the feature
included in the ECAD Database for CADWorx. We’d love to hear any thoughts or ideas, so feel free
to Contact Us.