Chapter 22 Example of maintenance 3

The D pole of Q53 is controlled by VL5.At this time,open the bitmap(shown in figure 22-
19)
and ready to measure the voltage of each pin of Q53,but we found that Q53 is missing.
Find a small size of N channel field-effect tube to be installed,plug the power,and the standby
current is 0.03A,measure that VCC3M and VCC5M have produced.When this machine is in
standby,there is a voltage VCC1R5M,is measured to be 1.5V,which is normal.After triggering the
switch,lights normally,this machine is repaired.

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Figure 22-19 the location where Q53 in the bitmap

Example 5 ASUS A42J multiple fault
Machine model:ASUS A42J
Board No.:K42JR
Fault phenomenon:the large current is short circuit and others,two repair machine
Maintenance process:
Colleagues sent a two repair machine of ASUS A42J,the board No. is K42JR,its a large
current,we can sure that the fault is on the CPU power supply filed-effect tube.Just in
case,replaced PQ8802,PQ8803,PQ8801 and the capacitor,is shown in figure 22-20.

Using the universal meter to test that the resistance value of the common point returned to be
normal,but when powered on to test,it is so bad.When CPU is not installed,the current jumps
repeatedly from 0V to 4V,then measured the voltage of the common point,it also jumps
repeatedly

from 8V to 19V.Then we can only measure slowly,disconnected the common point,and

measured
that the G pole of PQ8901 is short circuit to the ground,so it is that PQ8901 is replaced by
0resistance,is shown in figure 22-21.
I thought that this resistance 0 should not cause the voltage of the common point jumping
repeatedly,but i was still replace to 100k resistance.Then connected the common point,it was
still
jumping,there is a feature,when disconnected the standby 3.3V,it would not jump,but tested all
relative circuits with 3.3V,there are not abnormal.It is not so easy,at the same time with the
common point jumping,i found that the adjustable power supply LED is protected,so there is
the
short-circuit protection.As long as disconnected 3.3V,then it wouldn't jump,but it was jumping

repeatedly once powered on.Generally speaking,if the 3.3V rear stage is short circuit,it would
not

cause the common point jumping,so there may be noting wrong with 3.3V,we also need to
solve it
from the common point,but why 19V is normal when disconnects 3.3V.CPU power supply is
short
circuit first,so we also need to test it from CPU.By measuring,the diode value of the down tube

control level of CPU power supply is more than 400,but the diode value of the top tube PQ8804
is
more than 100.I see,replaced RT8856 directly,QFN chip of ASUS is difficult to weld,because the
reserved pin is too short.After welding,the current is also jumping,from 0V to 0.4V,but the
common point is not jumping.Measured CPU power supply,there is no voltage,then tested the
conditions of the CPU power supply chip,is shown in figure 22-22.
Measured that the 1 pin of RT8856 is 0V,the 2 pin is 3.3V,the 3 pin frequency setting
resistance is normal,6,8,9,10,11 and 12 are also normal,the 13 pin is 1.05V,there is no voltage
on
21 and 31 pin.It is strange,the chip has been replaced,the control level is normal,is the chip
broken?Replaced it again.After replacing,powered on,the current was not jumping,reached to
1.2A.For a moment,it was jumping from 0A to 0.7A again,measured the G pole of the field-
effect
tube,the G pole of the down tube PQ8806 and PQ8807 are 0What’s wrong,replaced RT8856
again,i need to check it carefully,can’t be powered on for a long time,used the oscilloscope to
measure that the rang of G pole of the top tube
PQ8804 is only 5V,so there is wrong with the
boosted circuit,replaced PC8811 directly,then
measured that the range of the G pole of PQ8804 is
normal.Powering on again,the current is
normal,connected the screen,ASUS is displayed.
Figure 22-23 the screenshot of the circuit
where PCIE_WAKE# is (This example is from http://www.chinafix.com/thread-720369-1-1.html
。 The origin

author:the student in XUNWEI huhaju)

Example 6 ASUS K42JR no standby
Machine model:ASUS K42JR
Board No.:K42JR 1.1
Fault phenomenon:no standby current
Maintenance process:
Removed the machine,observed that if some components were missing,and if there have
wrong
parts,if the board was corroded and repaired,i don’t find the problem.Then,used the universal
meter to
measure the diode value of each inductance on the whole board,they were in the normal
range.Since
there is no standby current,then plugged in directly and used the universal meter to measure
the standby

+3VSUS and +5VSUS,there is no voltage.In order to judge the problem quickly,turned off the
power

first,used the oscilloscope probe to click on the +5VSUS,then turned on the power,the
waveform is

shown in figure 22-24.the peak reaches to 5.8V,it is obviously wrong,is the over-voltage
protection.
This condition is usually caused by the filter capacitor,found the filter capacitor PCE8110 of
+5VSUS,is shown in figure 22-25.After replacing,the standby voltage is appeared.Then the
machine has repaired,i must to explain,some people will ask me,this fault is so easy,why you
uses
the oscilloscope to repair?Of course,if i don’t use the oscilloscope,i still can repair it,but if i use
it,for this fault,i don’t need to test the working condition of the chip or others,then i can find
the
problem immediately.
 In practical maintenance,if the capacitor is not short circuit,it can be connected in
parallel
with a capacitor on the PCE8110,it can also solve the problem.The figure 22-26 is the
screenshot
of the description of the electrical features of the over-voltage protection threshold value of
this
machine’s standby chip RT8205.When the output voltage reaches to 115%(the maximum
value),then it is protected,that is 5*115%=5.75v.

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Example 7 Acer Aspire 4738G powered off

Machine model:Acer Aspire 4738G

Board No.:Quanta DA0ZQ9MB6C0

Fault phenomenon:power off

Maintenance process:

Tested the whole machine,it is powered off,after plugging in,there is no current.Because it

uses the adjustable power supply with three bits,the current may be too small and can’t be

displayed.Disassembled the motherboard and observed it first,the components are not

damaged,then measured each major power supply resistance,which are normal.Used the universal

meter to measure that the standby voltage is normal,the switch has the voltage.After pressing the

switch,when the current reached to 0.02A,the machine is powered off.Observed the current,the

voltage is not rising,opened the drawing and found that there is the voltage state diagram,is shown

in figure 22-27.

By measuring,found that the voltages marked as ALWAYS are normal,there is also

+15V.According to the timing sequence of Quanta,after triggering the switch,it should produce

+3V_S5 and +5V_S5(the standby voltage of PCH) first,these two voltages are produced by PQ57

and PQ15,is shown in figure 22-28.These two MOS tubes are controlled by S5_ON sent by EC.

Figure 22-27 the voltage state diagram(the original drawing in English)

When pressing the switch,to measure that the voltage of the 2 pin of PQ16 is 3.3V,it is

normal,which indicated that EC has sent S5_ON signal.But measured +3V_S5 and +5V_S5,there

is no voltage.This shows that the problem should be in the conversion circuit,or in the MOS tube

converted +3V_S5 and +5V_S5.

Measured that the voltage of the 4 pin of PQ15 is only 0.9V,it should be about 13V

usually.Measured that +15V of PR143 is normal,after removing PQ19,S5D is still 0.9V;then