DEBATE ON THE SITE OF THE FIRST CRY

HOST (Vincent)

 Good morning and salutations everyone, I am excited to present to you our debate for
today which will be where did the first cry occurred and when.
 The topic to debate is about the Site of the First Cry which will be Pugadlawin or
Balintawak
 So anyway. let’s start the debate, shall we?
 The first group will be presenting the Government side with ____ Leading (The
affirmative)
 And on the other group, will be the Opposition side with Meg leading. (The Negative)

And a preview to the context of the debate. It is surprising that there are different versions on
the dates for the first cry of the revolution as well as the venue. This controversy up to this time
remains unsolved. It is believed that the so-called Cry took place in Balintawak; but others
would say that it really happened in Pugad Lawin. Nevertheless, there are different versions to
consider in knowing the real date and place of the Cry. These include Pio Valenzuela’s
Controversial “Cry of Pugad Lawin”, Santiago Alvarez’s “The Cry of Bahay Toro”, Gregoria de
Jesus’ version of the “First Cry”, and Guillermo Masangkay’s “The Cry Of Balintawak”.

 I call upon the group to order that the debate will start:

And now let’s hear our first statement from the Government side

Oblea (LO):

• I believe the first cry of rebellion was conducted in Balintawak on August 26, 1896, and
according to Guillermo Masangkay, a large conference was held in Balintawak at the residence
of Apolonio Samson, with Bonifacio, Emilio Jacinto, Aguedo del Rosario, and Francisco Carreon
among those present. They were all Katipunan leaders and served on the organization's board of
directors.

 and for our argument, Olegario Diaz, who was an officer of the Spanish Guardia civil stated that
the Cry happened in Balintawak on August 25, 1896. Historian Teodoro Kalaw wrote in his 1925
book entitled The Filipino Revolution that the Cry took place during the final week of August
1896
  In addition, According to Gregoria De Jesus. The Cry for rebellion started in the
place they called Pasong Tamo, Caloocan. At balintawak boudary.

 And that’s about it on my part.

HOST (Vincent)

 we thank the first Speaker from the Government and I Call upon Luis Fernando Podiotan to
continue the Case from the Opposition.

Luis Podiotan(PM)

 Thank You, MR.Vincent, our claim is Dr. Pio Valenzuela asserted that Andres Bonifacio, Emilio
Jacinto, Procopio Bonifacio, Teodoro Plata, Aguedo del Rosario, were the first five to arrive at
pugadlawin on August 19, and August 20 1896

 According to Dr. Pio Valenzuela's, on August 23, 1896, about 1,000 Katipunan members
convened and engaged in extensive argument and discussion in Pugad Lawin, in the house,
store-house, and yard of Juan Ramos, son of Melchora Aquino.

 To add gasoline to the flame, according to Pio Valenzuela, a close acquaintance of Andrés
Bonifacio, stated that it occurred on August 23, 1896 at Pugad Lawin.

 The debate was about whether the revolution against the Spanish government should begin on
August 29, 1896... Following the turbulent meeting, several in attendance tore their cedula
certificates and yelled, "mabuhay ang pilipinas! mabuhay ang pilipinas!"
 That’s all. Thank you.

HOST(Vincent)

 we thank the second Speaker from the Opposition and I Call upon Mr. Franklin Morris to
continue the Case from the Government.

Franklin(DLO):

 Thank you, Mr. Vincent. The Cry of Balintawak happened on Aug 26, 1896 at the house of
Apolonio Samson according to Guillermo Masangkay. It was a meeting called by Andres
Bonifacio & helped by Emilio Jacinto. It was asked to help and convinced Filipinos to join in the
revolution.
  I disagree with the claims of the First speaker of Opposition team, we claim that In 1911, Pio
valenzuela averred that the katipunan began meeting on 22 August while the cry took place on
23 August at Apolonio Samson’s house in Balintawak.

 For our Argument, Historian Teodoro Kalaw wrote in his book entitled The Filipino Revolution
that the cry took place during the final week of August 1896 at Kangkong, Balintawak People
directly involved refuted claims due to different terminologies but we believe that names such
as strong as Andres Bonifacio, Gregorio Masangkay, Gregoria de Jesus are credible enough to
believe when and where Cry of Balintawak happened.
 (DON’T FORGET TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SIGNAL)

HOST(Vincent)

 we thank the third Speaker from the Government and I Call upon Mr. James Rosales to continue
the Case from the Opposition.

James(GW):

 Thank you, Mr. Vincent, our first argumentative speaker claimed that we firmly believe that In
August 1896, the Philippines' Cry of Rebellion began. There are many questions in the minds of
the readers about the true location and date of this occurrence. 'The Cry' is linked to some
accounts that connect directly to Balintawak. The event took place in Balintawak, according to
Lt. Olegario Diaz of the Spanish Civil Guards, who corroborated the stories of historians Gregorio
Zaide and Teodoro Kalaw. Teodoro Agoncillo, on the other hand, based his account on Pio
Valenzuela's, which stressed Pugad Lawin as the location of the cry.

 Valenzuela claimed before the Olive Court in September 1896 that Katipunan meetings were
held at Balintawak from Sunday to Tuesday or 23 to 25 August.

 According to Valenzuela, the Katipunan began gathering on August 22, 1911, and the Cry took
place on August 23, 1911, at Apolonio Samson's residence in Balintawak. Valenzuela maintained
from 1928 to 1940 that the Cry of Balintawak occurred on August 24, 1896 at the residence of
Tandang Sora in Pugad Lawin.
 It really is interesting that there are several various stories of the dates for the revolution's initial
cry, as well as the location. This debate has remained unresolved to this day. But we firmly
believe that it Is on August 23.
 (DON’T FORGET TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SIGNAL)

HOST(Vincent):
  we thank the Fifth Speaker from the Government and I Call upon Mr. Ronn Chrysler Obusan and
Mr. Mico Mangadlao to continue the Case from the Government.

Ronn (OW):

 General Guillermo Masangkay, of the Katipunan, penned this version. He was present at the
historic occasion and was Bonifacio's childhood friend. According to him, the Philippine
Revolution's first gathering took place in Balintawak on August 26, 1896. As a result, the date
and location stated were recognized during the early years of American government.

 In August 1896, in the sitio of Pugad Lawin in Balintawak, now part of Quezon City, the
Katipuneros led by Andrés Bonifacio rose up in revolt by tearing up their “cedulas” which
became a sign of enslavement of the Filipinos. This event called the “Cry of Pugad Lawin,”
officially regarded as the start of the Philippine Revolution against Spain with the use of violence
and arms.

 Bonifacio called the meeting to order at 9 a.m., with Jacinto serving as secretary and a schedule
of when the revolt would take place. All of Katipunan's commanders and Board of Directors
were there, including Andres Bonifacio, Emilio Jacinto, Aguedo del Rosario, Tomas Remigio,
Briccio Pantas, Teodoro Plata, Pio Valenzuela, Enrique Pacheco, and Francisco Carreon.
Delegates from Bulacan, Cabanatuan, Cavite, and Morong are also in attendance.

Mico (OW):

 The Philippine revolution against over 300 years of Spanish rule began with Andres Bonifacio.
Leader of the Katipunan a secret revolutionary society that sought independence of the
Philippines from Spanish colonial rule.

 In August 1896, in the sitio of Pugad Lawin in Balintawak, now part of Quezon City, the
Katipuneros led by Andres Bonifacio rose up in revolt by tearing up their "cedulas" which
became a sign of enslavement of the Filipinos. This event called the "Cry of Pugad Lawin,"
officially regarded as the start of the Philippine Revolution against Spain with the use of violence
and arms.

 The inscription on the marker at the site says that "In the vicinity of this place, Andres Bonifacio
and about one thousand Katipuneros met on the morning of August 23, 1096 and decided to
launch the revolution against the Spanish government in the Philippines. They affirmed their
decision by tearing their cedulas, symbols of the enslavement of the Filipinos. This was the first
cry of the oppressed people against the Spanish nation, and was given force by means of arms."
 In 1896, according to the National Historical Commission (NHCP), the house and yard of Juan
Ramos had stood on this site.
 (DON’T FORGET TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SIGNAL)

HOST (Vincent):

 we thank the speakers from the Government and I Call upon Ms. Meg Julia Regoroso and Mr.
Aldrich Quisel to continue the Case from the Opposition.

GR(Meg):

 Who is Pio Valenzuela and why he is relavant in this topic? He was a member of the committee
that was tasked to smuggle arms for the Katipunan from Japan. He was also with Bonifacio,
Jacinto and Procopio Bonifacio when they organized the Katipunan council in Cavite.

 In 1936, Pio Valenzuela, along with Briccio Pantas and Enrique Pacheco said (in English
translation) "The first Cry of the revolution did not happen in Balintawak where the monument
is, but in a place called Pugad Lawin." In 1940

 It was at Pugad Lawin, the house, store-house, and yard of Juan Ramos, son of Melchora Aquino,
where over 1,000 members of the Katipunan met and carried out considerable debate and
discussion on August 23, 1896. The discussion was on whether or not the revolution against the
Spanish government should be started on August 29, 1896 So we firmly believe that the first cry
was held at pugad lawin August 23, 1896.
 (DON’T FORGET TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SIGNAL)

(Aldrich):

 Pío Valenzuela, a close associate of Andrés Bonifacio, declared in 1948 that it happened in
Pugad Lawin on August 23, 1896. Because of differing accounts and the ambiguity of place
names in these accounts, the exact date and place of the Cry is disputed. From 1908 until 1963,
the official stance was that the Cry occurred on August 26 in Balintawak. In 1963 the Philippine
government declared a shift to August 23 in Pugad Lawin, Quezon City.

HOST(Vincent):

 We thank the speakers from the Opposition side and presenting their wonderful insights or
stand on this debate!
And now to summarize the overall idea of the Opposition Side which will be presented by Mr. Luis
Podiotan

LUIS PODIOTAN:

 Based from the claims formed and supported by the corresponding evidences, it has been
concluded that the Cry of Pugad Lawin happened on August 23, 1896 since such notion
coincides with the indisputable and historical artifacts presented. The testimony of Pio
Valenzuela may have been inconsistent at first but this was because he was under duress during
his trial under the Spanish court. His testimony and statement along with other KKK veterans
Pantas and Pacheco is enough to authenticate and verify the mentioned issue in Philippine
history. In fact, Teodoro Agoncilio’s account became the basis of the current stance of the
Philippine government. In 1963, President Diosdado Macapagal ordered the official
commemorations shifted to Pugad ng uwak, Quezon City on August 23 (1998).

Vincent:
 And now let’s hear the summary from the Government side to actually comprehend and absorb
their belief and stand

Oblea:
 the first cry of rebellion was held in balintawak on aug 26,1896 and according to Guillermo
Masangkay a big meeting was held in balintawak at the house of apolonio samson and among
who attended were Bonifacio, Emilio Jacinto, Aguedo del Rosario and Francisco Carreon. They
were all the leaders of the Katipunan and composed the board of directors of the organization.
Pio valenzuela averred that the katipunan began meeting on 22 nd of August while the cry took
place on 23 August at Apolonio Samson’s house in Balintawak Based on the article by NCCA
(National Commission for Culture and Arts) that we read.

HOST(Vincent):

 we thank these 2 speakers and their side for presenting and fighting for their belief. I therefore
let you people judge and choose sides on which you will believe.
 Thank you, Mr. Cuayzon, Mark Lester and thank you everyone for listening on our debate, I now
therefore conclude that this debate is over.