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Demystifying SIEM, EDR, XDR & MDR

Dr. Anton Chuvakin, Security Advisor at Office of the CISO, Google Cloud
Randy Watkins, CTO, Critical Start

July 19, 2022


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Moderator

DR. ANTON CHUVAKIN RANDY PHIL


Security Advisor at Office of WATKINS NERAY
the CISO, Google Cloud CTO, VP/Cyber Defense Strategy
Critical Start
Discussion topics
1. What is XDR? If I have a SIEM and EDR, do I need XDR?

2. Is XDR a better EDR or a better SIEM? What data challenges still exist?

3. Is SIEM still the foundation of a SOC? Should I be sending all my EDR alerts to the SIEM?

4. Does XDR work in the cloud? How does XDR improve Cloud Detection and Response
capabilities?

5. What is Managed XDR? How is it different from MDR?

6. Does XDR save headcount or operational expenses?

7. How do I map my MITRE ATT&CK coverage across SIEM, EDR, XDR?


Discussion: SIEM or EDR? What about XDR?

• Q: What is XDR? If I have a SIEM and EDR,


do I need XDR?

• A: Nobody knows or at least agrees what


XDR is.

• Is XDR a better EDR or a better SIEM? What


data challenges still exist? The answer
depends on your definition…
Takeaways
1. XDR is the combination of EDR and SIEM capabilities (with some SOAR thrown in), but is
not a silver bullet.
a. Both are difficult individually, combining them doesn’t make it easier

2. Next-Gen SOCs may not revolve around a SIEM, but logs are still necessary.
a. Logs won’t go away, and future cloud security requires more log analysis

3. As a first step for cloud security monitoring, send cloud telemetry to your existing SIEM.
4. MITRE ATT&CK has replaced Cyber Kill-Chain as the standard catalog of adversary
techniques, so mapping detections across SIEM+EDR is essential to understanding
preparedness.
5. XDR platforms may streamline investigation, but still require headcount to respond to
alerts. This can be augmented by MDR services.
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Resources

• Can You Do a SIEM-less SOC?

• 2022 Report: The State of SIEM Detection Risk

• Son of a Breach Podcast with Rated XDR Series

• “The Future of SIEM with Anton Chuvakin” (SANS Webinar, Archived)

• CardinalOps platform – 2-minute demo video


• Come see us at Black Hat (Booth #2710) and the Level Up Party
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