Forbidden Worlds Discussion Notes:

Gabriel Galaviz, Subekshya Khatiwada, Annika Damstedt

● Cats are a theme

● Kafka and Crow

● The shore as another world

● The forest

● Worlds between conscious and unconscious

● Kafka used Nakata as a proxy to kill Kafka’s father

○ Connect to Tale of Gengi and spirits

● Interpret the other world however reader wants

○ Dream, death, subconscious

● Connecting ups and downs of an epic to Kafka on the Shore

● Nakata and Ms. Saeki die, Kafka leaves dream world

○ Nakata dies because he met Ms. Saeki

○ The hero’s journey

○ Nakata like sage for Hoshino, Oshmia sage for Kafka

● Narrative focuses on core aspect of Kafka

● Collective unconscious narratives intrinsic part of Kafka on the shore

○ Connect to themes of unconscious

● Group narratives and the Narrative connect to fate

● Core identity and narrative deepest part of yourself - your fate

● 1F is what everyone else sees, and the further away you get closer to who you actually

are
 ● 2F - private aspects you are aware of, guests can go to second floor, never basement

● Basement is the other world - you go there to understand yourself, too long you lose

yourself and can’t live

● Consciousness, shallow metaphysical realm, the Narrative

● Metaphysical body could be Crow - Crow killed Johnnie Walker

● Crow connected to fate - can’t run away

● Nakata’s shadow in B2 - missing a fundamental piece of himself

● Entrance stone - weird door to B2

● The miner - never enter basement

● Three types of people - soulmates, Crow and Kafka, Oshima and trans

○ Other half stuck in the basement

● Other halves interact even though they are separate

○ First two floors are one self

○ Basement other self

○ All part of the same house

Conclusion:

● Miss Saeki’s 15-year old ghost

○ Two worlds

■ Opened the entrance stone

■ A part of her gets trapped in the other world

■ Entrance stone opening again possibly related to her death

■ Reentered the dream world, fused with herself, just stayed there, died

■ Nakata possibly losing more of himself

○ The Narrative

■ Finding your inner self as a part of the narrative

■ Personal narrative impacts Narrative impacts personal narrative

○ Two story house

■ Opened the door to the basement

■ Other half got stuck