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Day 1: Applying to Various Networks
09-08-2020 08:19 AM #1
vortex
Day 1: Applying to Various Networks
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But first - a disclaimer:
1)First of all, let's sign up to a few affiliate networks that are newbie-friendly, that have
offers we can direct-link to without having to prepare landing pages.
I'll also suggest some sample answers for when you're filling out the applications. These suggested
answers are based on the assumption that you're completely new to paid traffic and affiliate
marketing. If you already have some experience, then please fill-in accurate and truthful information
that reflect your actual experience level.
-Go to https://app.zeydoo.com/signUp. Fill out your contact information and click "Next".
-For the next set of questions, here are sample answers if you have zero experience running
campaigns:
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-You should receive an email from them in seconds. Click on the verification link within.
-After setting up your password, your account will be in pending status. You may see a chatbox
popup that asks for more information about your experience and traffic sources, how long you've
been in affiliate marketing, whether you have a PropellerAds account, etc. Here you can reply in the
chat to increase your chances of getting accepted. Introduce yourself and talk about your aspirations
and goals for affiliate marketing. Treat this like a job interview - convince the network that if they
accept you and spend time working with you, that their efforts won't be in vain.
Spend some time crafting your message. Zeydoo has lots of great offers - they'd be worth your time.
-Zeydoo should reach out in the next days either via chat or email. They may ask you additional
questions, and then they would either approve or reject you.
Please POLITELY inquire about the status of your application, and be patient in waiting for a
response. AMs are busy people – most of them are taking care of affiliates practically 24/7 except
when they’re sleeping. So be understanding and don’t hound them.
-Ask your AM for a list of their best offers that can convert on pop traffic WITHOUT using a pre-
lander (i.e. offers that can convert when linked to directly), that have low payouts of below $1,
preferably even below $0.50. Also ask them to share a list of top geos and mobile carriers for each
offer - at the time I'm writing this they have offers that accept traffic from multiple geos, so we'd want
to narrow down the number of geos to choose from. They may give you a link to an image like this:
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Or they may just give you a list of geos and carriers in chat. Don't forget to ask them to approve the
recommended offers for you!
-Lastly: In the Zeydoo interface, go to the Finance in the left menu > Billing settings and complete
your billing information so you can get paid later. In the process, you will likely need to provide some
sort of personal documents to confirm your identity.
NOTE: I can no longer suggest for affiliates to sign up to Haka, due to internal problems I
heard were happening within this network. Please skip this section and continue with
the section on Mobipium below.
-Go to http://publisher.haka.mobi/signup. Fill out the form asking for contact info and click "Submit".
-You should receive an email from them in seconds. Click on the verification link within.
-You'll be asked to set up your password. When you finish doing so you'll be directed to the affiliate
dashboard.
-Click on "Offers" in the left sidebar menu. You should see the message "Your account is now
pending approval! Before we approve you offers we would like to know a bit more about your traffic.
Please fill in this and your account will be approved shortly." Click on the "form" button and you'll land
on a google form. Fill that out. Below are suggested answers to some of the questions:
Q: What are your combined affiliate revenues across networks per month?
A: 0-5k
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When done, click "Submit".
-Haka should reach out either by email or by skype. They may ask you additional questions, and then
they would either approve or reject you.
If you don’t hear back in, say, a week, you can contact Shivang via skype: shivang-gude
Again, please be polite when inquiring about the status of your application - I've covered this above in
the Zeydoo section.
-Ask your AM for a list of their best click2sms offers. Also ask them to share a list of top geos and
mobile carriers - at the time I'm writing this they have offers that accept traffic from all geos, so we'd
want to narrow down the number of geos to choose from. They may give you a link to a spreadsheet
like this:
Or they may just give you a list of geos and carriers in chat. Don't forget to ask them to approve the
recommended offers for you!
-Also ask your AM to set up your payment method with you so you can get paid later.
Some of you may have gone through the $1 Guide and already have an account with Mobipium - in
which case you can skip this section.
Go to https://affiliates.mobipium.com/signup?origin=stm40day
(This is NOT an affiliate link. Mobipium just wants to track clicks so they’d know I’ve sent you.)
The rest of the fields are self-explanatory. When done click "SIGN UP".
-You should receive an email shortly, that has a confirmation link in it. Click on this link to verify your
email.
-You should then receive an email with additional questions. Simply reply to the email with your
answers.
Below are suggested answers to some of those questions. If they ask any other questions (because
these questions can change), just answer honestly. They're friendly to newbies - just let them know
you're following this tutorial so won't be bothering them with a ton of newbie questions.
(By the way - for convenience, affiliates and networks like to use 2-letter country codes instead of
typing out entire country names. You can find them here:
https://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/ctycodes.htm)
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-Give Mobipium some time to get back to you. If for some reason you didn’t get an email containing
an AM’s contact information, here are some Mobipium AMs you can contact on skype – again,
please be polite and patient in waiting for a response:
-Ask your AM for a list of the "best 1-click carrier-billing offers from tier 3 and 4 geos, with payouts
below $1, that allow pop traffic", and ask them to approve these offers for you.
-Also ask your AM to set up your payment method with you so you can get paid later.
(I may add more traffic networks in this section soon - please check back later.)
2)Sign up for accounts on several pop traffic networks. These are places we'll be buying
the visitors, aka "paid traffic", from.
-Go to PropellerAds.
-Click on "Sign Up" at the top, and choose to sign up as an "Advertiser". When signing up for any
traffic network, we need to sign up as an "Advertiser" and not a "Publisher". However, when signing
up with affiliate networks, we need to sign up as a "Publisher" and not "Advertiser". Confusing, but
two sides of the same coin.
-First page is just some personal contact information - only fields marked with stars (*) are
mandatory. The rest are optional. When finished click "Next" to see more questions.
Q: What other traffic sources and CPA networks do you currently work with?
A: PopAds, Haka Mobile, Mobipium
-Find the confirmation email from them and click on the link to activate your account.
-Most of the fields are self-explanatory. For "Account Type" select "Advertiser". Fill everything out,
accept the terms, and click "Register".
-You'll receive an email from them - click on the confirmation link to activate your account.
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(I may add more traffic networks in this section soon - please check back later.)
3)Lastly: If you haven't already, explore how this forum works by clicking into the various
forum sections and subsections to check them out. Also read this post on how to contact STM if
(God forbid) you ever get locked out of the forums (and save this information somewhere!)
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EXPLANATION
1)In this tutorial, we'll be running popunder/popover traffic - referred to as Pop Traffic in general - to
CPA or cost-per-action offers.
If you're not familiar with what pop ads are, just go to any torrent site and click around until a full-
page ad appears out of nowhere to take over your screen. Some of the most popular pop ads are
push notification subscriptions ("[website.com] would like to use your Notifications" with the "Allow"
and "Block" buttons), antivirus ("you have x viruses on your machine - subscribe to our service /
install our software to protect your machine now!", and sweeps ("congratulations - you've won an
iphone 11!")
These CPA offers can be obtained from affiliate networks. We can pop the offer page in the ad
directly. Or we can pop a presell page (aka landing page) in the ad, and if the visitor clicks on a link
on that page they'd be redirected to the offer page, where if they choose to sign up for the offer, we'll
get paid a commission.
Pop is the cheapest form of traffic you can buy, which makes it a good traffic type to learn the basics
of media buying - such as tracking, landing pages, testing, and campaign optimization.
Pop traffic is also the easiest to run, because there are fewer variables to test. No banners are
involved, and there's minimal audience targeting. You either just send visitors to the offer page, or
send them to a presell page first and then the offer page. Nice and simple.
2)The affiliate networks you've applied to above will try to contact you! Keep an eye on your email
and chat messengers, and pick up on phone calls - basically monitor all the different methods of
contact you've left on the application forms.
3)Some of the networks may want to have a chat with you before deciding on approving your
account. Just be honest about your experience level - all the networks above are newbie-friendly.
-Be professional,
-Make it clear that you'll do your best to succeed and that you're not just dabbling,
-Let them know you're a member of STM and following this tutorial, and that you can get help from
this forum when you need to, and that 4)you'll abide by their terms of service.
-They want to know that their time spent with you will result in profits,
-You won't do anything shady to get them into trouble (both with the affiliate network and with the
advertisers a.k.a. the offer owners).
4)After you're accepted by an affiliate network, ask your affiliate manager ("AM" for short) for their
skype/telegram/whatsapp whatever and add them - if they haven't added you first.
You can also log into your affiliate dashboard after getting approved - on some of the networks you'll
find the contact info of your AM there as well.
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5)Remember to set up your payment information with your AMs so you can get paid later. It would
also be good to ask how often will payment be made, what the payment threshold is (i.e. what
amount you need to reach in order to get paid in the next payment cycle), and whether you need to
request
6)If your AMs ask you to set up your tracker postback, tell them you'll be doing that soon enough -
we'll cover how to do that in the next couple of days.
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READING
Since you're just starting out, I feel it would be important for you to see what is possible in this
industry - the motivation and inspiration will help you to set some good expectations for your journey
ahead:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ume-Affiliates
https://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisp...uccess-Stories
(Read at least 5 stories from this section.)
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And that's it for today. Think that was too easy? Don't worry - we'll get to the harder stuff real soon!
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09-09-2020 09:32 AM #3
vortex
Originally Posted by cnuralim
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Hi Vortex (Amy)
Not sure if you remember me, but we talked on Skype in early 2018...I hope you are all well and
healthy during this tough time
Join Date: Feb 2014 Anyway, as for newbie friendly network, what do you think about MaxBounty? I applied with them, got
Location: Toronto, Canada rejected, and sent them an appeal detailing how I would drive traffic and run campaigns. I heard about
Posts: 12,464 this network on Charles Ngo's Leadgen Engine course.
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Cynthia
Yes Cynthia of course! I think I saw your message come through the STM Page inbox, which I
responded to. How are you?
Covid hasn't affected me. I'm an energy healer so my immune system is good. My gf and I still try to
stay away from crowds though to further mitigate risks. Been spending time in nature, hiking in the
woods etc. Hope you're staying safe too!
As for aff networks - MaxBounty is one of the oldest and is a very reputable network for sure, but I
wouldn't hold my breath for them to approve because there are so many good networks out there.
Can you please refresh my memory as to what your experience level is? And what kinds of verticals
you have run?
Amy
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09-09-2020 12:15 PM #4
cnuralim
Originally Posted by vortex
Member
Join Date: Aug 2020 Yes Cynthia of course! I think I saw your message come through the STM Page inbox, which I
Posts: 6 responded to. How are you?
Thanks: 1
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stay away from crowds though to further mitigate risks. Been spending time in nature, hiking in the
woods etc. Hope you're staying safe t
oo!
As for aff networks - MaxBounty is one of the oldest and is a very reputable network for sure, but I
wouldn't hold my breath for them to approve because there are so many good networks out there.
Can you please refresh my memory as to what your experience level is? And what kinds of verticals
you have run?
Amy
Yes, I am all good, unfortunately still working 9-5 but with lots of health protocols in place of course
and having daily dose of red ginger, sunlight, and work-out for immune booster
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Great, looks like you are doing very well! ;p At times like this, being able to work remotely is truly
privilege...
Long story cut short, I was trying different types of online business all this time (e.g. e-commerce,
trading, Instagram), just to see which would click with me and align with my life values. At the end,
none of them did, and it led me back to affiliate marketing, which was pretty much my first "online'
experience.
Fast forward 2-years, I am basically still a newbie in this space, but my mindset has completely
changed and I am now ready to do the work.
I read your report, "what's working in affiliate marketing in 2020", and decided to do WH LeadGen
offers, potentially in the finance or other pandemic-friendly verticals, and have been trying to get into
networks ever since.
Are you aware of newbie friendly networks that has plenty of such offers? Anyway, what is your
focus now in AM?
Thanks,
Cynthia
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09-09-2020 03:21 PM #5
vortex
Originally Posted by cnuralim
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I read your report, "what's working in affiliate marketing in 2020", and decided to do WH LeadGen
offers, potentially in the finance or other pandemic-friendly verticals, and have been trying to get into
networks ever since.
But where are you planning on running these offers? Pop is more suited to broader appeal stuff like
sweeps. Finance leadgen offers are more suited for FB and Native.
Amy
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09-09-2020 09:08 PM #6
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But where are you planning on running these offers? Pop is more suited to broader appeal stuff like
sweeps. Finance leadgen offers are more suited for FB and Native.
Amy
Yes, it took quite some time to see if something is really not working. Thanks Amy, I will give a try to
both of them!
and yes, pretty much on FB Pretty bold statement for a newbie I guess...
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09-10-2020 05:40 AM #7
cnuralim By the way Amy, I am thinking to create a company for AM purposes, for better taxes, etc down the
Member road.
Join Date: Aug 2020 Does the company location matter? I imagine that some networks may only accept affiliates from
Posts: 6 certain countries (e.g. US, UK, etc)
Thanks: 1 I have been seeing this ads on Instagram informing people that foreigner can set up a company and
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09-11-2020 12:31 PM #8
vortex
Day 1: Applying to Various Networks
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I'm not sure whether affiliate networks will discriminate affiliates baes on their country, although I
have heard rejections of affiliates from certain countries due to their having a bad reputation for
spamming/scamming, which can lead to low lead quality.
Once you've built up some revenue with at least one affiliate network, you shouldn't have difficulty
getting into more networks. So it may not be worth it to set up a company in the US JUST for that
purpose.
Company location is usually chosen based on tax considerations. I would encourage you to have a
chat with your accountant about this to find out what your options are for your particular situation.
When you start to make more money - 5 figures a year or more in profits, also check out
digitasfinance.com.
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09-11-2020 01:00 PM #9
popcash
Originally Posted by vortex
Member
Join Date: May 2020 I'm not sure whether affiliate networks will discriminate affiliates baes on their country, although I have
Location: Bucharest, RO heard rejections of affiliates from certain countries due to their having a bad reputation for
Posts: 80 spamming/scamming, which can lead to low lead quality.
Thanks: 9
Thanked 82 Times in 50 Posts Once you've built up some revenue with at least one affiliate network, you shouldn't have difficulty
getting into more networks. So it may not be worth it to set up a company in the US JUST for that
purpose.
Company location is usually chosen based on tax considerations. I would encourage you to have a
chat with your accountant about this to find out what your options are for your particular situation.
When you start to make more money - 5 figures a year or more in profits, also check out
digitasfinance.com.
Amy
But do you think the affiliates will discriminate based on individuals that own or do not own
company? And at what point do you reckon an affiliate marketer should actually start a company to
run their activity?
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Originally Posted by popcash
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But do you think the affiliates will discriminate based on individuals that own or do not own company?
And at what point do you reckon an affiliate marketer should actually start a company to run their
activity?
As for what time an affiliate should start a company: What it basically comes down to is whether the
tax benefits (write-offs etc.) will outweigh the cost of the extra paperwork and trouble from setting
up the company. Tax laws in each country are different, and it's also possible to set up the company
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in another country. It really would be best for each affiliate to consult with his/her accountant to get
advice that is customized to their unique situation.
Amy
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leadmarketing Hello, Thank you for this amazing guide but please when will you post the rest because i'm lost
between tons of posts here
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cnuralim
Originally Posted by vortex
Member
Join Date: Aug 2020 I'm not sure whether affiliate networks will discriminate affiliates baes on their country, although I have
Posts: 6 heard rejections of affiliates from certain countries due to their having a bad reputation for
Thanks: 1 spamming/scamming, which can lead to low lead quality.
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Once you've built up some revenue with at least one affiliate network, you shouldn't have difficulty
getting into more networks. So it may not be worth it to set up a company in the US JUST for that
purpose.
Company location is usually chosen based on tax considerations. I would encourage you to have a
chat with your accountant about this to find out what your options are for your particular situation.
When you start to make more money - 5 figures a year or more in profits, also check out
digitasfinance.com.
Amy
Hi Amy
I applied to Clickdealer and got rejected as well. It got me thinking if it was me or the entry bar had
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been increased due to pandemic....
What do you think the best way out Amy?
Thanks,
Cynthia
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vortex
Originally Posted by leadmarketing
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Hello, Thank you for this amazing guide but please when will you post the rest because i'm lost
between tons of posts here
Clickdealer has always been careful about who they accept into the network. They DO take SOME
newbies (otherwise I wouldn't have written them into the tutorial) but not many. Just apply again
when you've made $500-1k with other networks. No need to overthink things.
The more networks you apply to, the more will accept you. So just apply to more networks. Getting
rejected isn't personal, and shouldn't be taken as a personal failure.
Amy
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Placements and Banners | Part 3: How to Cut Placements Using Rules of Thumb | Part 4: How to Cut Offers
with Different Payouts
Amy
Set Up Your 1st Campaign 2 Hours From Now! Make Your 1st Dollar in Revenue
Build Your Foundation with This Newbie Course: Vortex' 40-Day Newbie Pop Tutorial
Want to Run on Facebook? Try Vortex' FB Newbie Tutorial!
Free Tools to Make Your Camps Green Faster: Part 1: How to Cut Landers and Banners | Part 2: How to Cut
Placements and Banners | Part 3: How to Cut Placements Using Rules of Thumb | Part 4: How to Cut Offers
with Different Payouts
plutus @vortex is it possible that it's taking Haka over a week to contact? I applied there before even this
Member post was created and just noticed that you stated that CPA VAS / Click 2 SMS should be selected as
Join Date: Aug 2020 verticals and I've chosen sweepstakes, might this be a reason?
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cnuralim
Originally Posted by vortex
Member
Join Date: Aug 2020 Clickdealer has always been careful about who they accept into the network. They DO take SOME
Posts: 6 newbies (otherwise I wouldn't have written them into the tutorial) but not many. Just apply again when
Thanks: 1 you've made $500-1k with other networks. No need to overthink things.
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The more networks you apply to, the more will accept you. So just apply to more networks. Getting
rejected isn't personal, and shouldn't be taken as a personal failure.
Amy
Thanks Amy, sorry for late response, I didn't realize that you had replied as there was no
notification...
By the way, I am currently studying Charles Ngo's Lead Gen Engine course, and having trouble to both
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contacting their support and Charles himself as the emails bounced back to me.
I have tried contacting him on his Facebook, as well as on STM's private message.
Are you aware of other Charles' students that I can connect with here on STM?
Thanks,
Cynthia
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Originally Posted by plutus
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@vortex is it possible that it's taking Haka over a week to contact? I applied there before even this
post was created and just noticed that you stated that CPA VAS / Click 2 SMS should be selected as
verticals and I've chosen sweepstakes, might this be a reason?
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Originally Posted by vortex
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Join Date: Aug 2020 Have you gotten approved yet?
Location: Kraków, Poland
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Yes, like day or so after posting this. I got assigned to about 30 random multi-geo offers and can't
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apply to anything else, is this all they've got or am I on some kind of trial before getting access to
everything else?
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Thanks Amy, sorry for late response, I didn't realize that you had replied as there was no notification...
By the way, I am currently studying Charles Ngo's Lead Gen Engine course, and having trouble to both
contacting their support and Charles himself as the emails bounced back to me.
I have tried contacting him on his Facebook, as well as on STM's private message.
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Thanks,
Cynthia
You can certainly start a thread here to see if other Charles' students will reply!
I've left a message with Charles - will let you know. (EDIT: Charles has apparently reached out to you
already - sorry for my late reply!)
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Originally Posted by plutus
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Yes, like day or so after posting this. I got assigned to about 30 random multi-geo offers and can't
apply to anything else, is this all they've got or am I on some kind of trial before getting access to
everything else?
Amy
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plutus
Originally Posted by vortex
Member
Join Date: Aug 2020 Has your AM shared with you the spreadsheet containing top geos and ISPs?
Location: Kraków, Poland
Posts: 223
Thanks: 425
To be honest I'm not sure if I have any AM from the Haka assigned to my account. I also received no
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message regarding account approval, just got email about that 30 offers approval that I did not apply
to (LOL). Would really appriciate PM with that link
EDIT: What is Haka minimum payout? And what is the interval? I'm thinking about testing it, saw
good follow along but if its more than 100$ I'll go back to ClickDealer as I already have 80$ in rev
there and it's still not even 1/5 of theirs minimum rev to pay out
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Originally Posted by plutus
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To be honest I'm not sure if I have any AM from the Haka assigned to my account. I also received no
message regarding account approval, just got email about that 30 offers approval that I did not apply
to (LOL). Would really appriciate PM with that link
EDIT: What is Haka minimum payout? And what is the interval? I'm thinking about testing it, saw good
Join Date: Feb 2014 follow along but if its more than 100$ I'll go back to ClickDealer as I already have 80$ in rev there and
Location: Toronto, Canada it's still not even 1/5 of theirs minimum rev to pay out
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Got it - will PM the link to you right now. However, before promoting the offers, it would be best to
confirm with your AM that you ARE indeed approved for the offers and that the links ARE active - I
don't want you running into any accidents.
I'm not 100% sure about the minimum payout - let me get you an answer. Will reply here when I get it.
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Location: New Jersey, In The Old US really shows your character.
of A =)
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Thanks: 20 I am doing my best to stay focused and motivated (as my brain fry's daily) to make this work lol
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I am essentially a newbie even having some knowledge of the industry coming into it.
I actually managed to get approved into Maxbounty, clickdealer, adcombo and mobipium, (waiting on
Haka) and I am at the beginnings of your new 40 day currently.
After speaking with my AM for Maxbounty they do only tier 1 and 2 and do not do one click offers.
He recommended a sweeps offer for iphone he said converts well with a $2.90 payout per lead.
Is that an offer I can implement in the guide, and either way, what offers should I be asking for from a
networks like them.
I haven't asked for offers from anyone but Maxbounty and Mobipium because I don't want to annoy
any of my AM to much until I know what to say as while I follow your guide.
I am still learning what everything means and I apologies for my ignorance, I do my best to search
the forum before annoying anyone.
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Originally Posted by hustlehat
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Hello Vortex (Amy),
Wanted to start out by saying I am beyond grateful for the time you put into everything you do, it really
shows your character.
Join Date: Feb 2014 I am doing my best to stay focused and motivated (as my brain fry's daily) to make this work because
Location: Toronto, Canada where I am at in life, it needs to.
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I actually managed to get approved into Maxbounty, clickdealer, adcombo and mobipium, (waiting on
Haka) and I am at the beginnings of your new 40 day currently.
After speaking with my AM for Maxbounty they do only tier 1 and 2 and do not do one click offers.
He recommended a sweeps offer for iphone he said converts well with a $2.90 payout per lead.
Is that an offer I can implement in the guide, and either way, what offers should I be asking for from a
networks like them.
I haven't asked for offers from anyone but Maxbounty and Mobipium because I don't want to annoy
any of my AM to much until I know what to say as while I follow your guide.
I am still learning what everything means and I apologies for my ignorance, I do my best to search the
forum before annoying anyone.
Thanks for reaching out! And please feel free to ask questions at any time - that was why you joined
the forum! I'm well and so is everyone - hope you and your loved ones are staying safe too during this
pandemic.
You can run any offer you like from any network - it's just that when you're a newbie it would be
easier to stick to the same networks as in the tutorial so you can get step-by-step instructions on
how to set up tracking links etc.
You can run tier 1/2 offers. The methodology is similar to running tier 3/4 offers. The major
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difference is you'll be paying more money to learn the same things, because 1)tier 1/2 offers tend to
have higher payouts so you'd be paying more to collect actionable data, and 2)tier 1/2 geos tend to
have greater competition so would require more testing and optimization to reach green.
Short 3-page submit sounds like a complicated flow. For beginners it would be better to stick with
simpler conversion flows, like SOIs that only require name and email. In general: The simpler the flow,
the lower the payout, and the more conversions you can collect on the same test budget.
Hope that helps and please ask any further questions at any time!
Amy
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hustlehat Amy,
Member
Join Date: Sep 2020 Thanks for the help! Funny enough, even in my ignorance, that was essentially the conclusion I was
Location: New Jersey, In The Old US coming to.
of A =)
Posts: 34
I have yet to hear back from Haka so I will focus on Mobipium for now.
Thanks: 20
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Cheers.
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karnitech Hi Amy,
Member
Join Date: Oct 2016 Thank you for all the wonderful tutorials, really both 2019 and 2020 are very detailed. thank you for
Posts: 2 putting all the time into it for the rest of us.
Thanks: 6 I am in haka for some time now and get this message "Your account is now pending approval!" I have
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was unable to get through. i have some access to click2sms offers from June 2020 but nothing
since.
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I still have no idea who my AM is - I just received an email that I got approved to 35+ offers that I can
run globally .
Wasn't running a lot Haka since approval so can't really tell if this approach is the best one you could
make.
Messaging someone from Haka on Skype might indeed be smarter way to resolve this problem.
Lastly - when you warm up your affiliate muscles enough go and create Follow-Along - STM consists
of people that are really helpful in all of the beginner's issues, this way you can boost your learning
speed a lot.
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Originally Posted by karnitech
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Hi Amy,
Thank you for all the wonderful tutorials, really both 2019 and 2020 are very detailed. thank you for
putting all the time into it for the rest of us.
I am in haka for some time now and get this message "Your account is now pending approval!" I have
Join Date: Feb 2014 filled out the form several weeks ago. I have also tried contacting shivang on skype several times but
Location: Toronto, Canada was unable to get through. i have some access to click2sms offers from June 2020 but nothing since.
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Thank you for your kind feedback!
Regarding Haka - @plutus has given some great suggestions! (Thank you!)
How long has it been since you applied? Please try applying again, and be sure to monitor your email
including the junk folder to make sure you don't miss their emails. If you don't hear back in two
weeks, please let me know by posting here, and I'll personally follow up for you.
Amy
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karnitech i have been with haka since summer most likely June 2020, i have applied via filling the form a
Member couple of times, I will wait again. I looked at junk mail as well - nothing there.
Join Date: Oct 2016 i have access to traffic company click2sms offers and have kintura as a tracker. if it doesn't work
Posts: 2 with haka I will try to give TC offers a try.
Thanks: 6
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