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Technology, especially the internet, has provided incredibly powerful tools for the pro-
motion and logistics of criminal activities related to human trafficking, how can we also
use the new technological tools for the fight against this scourge?
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Council of Ministers. Member of the inter-institutional technical Group for the Fight against
Pedophilia and Child Pornography of the Sicily Region. Member of the Scientific Committee
of the Italian Postal and Communications Police
Shawn Kohl, Director for Central and Eastern Europe for International Justice Mission, a
human rights agency that secures justice for victims of slavery, sexual exploitation and
other forms of violent oppression. IJM lawyers, investigators and aftercare professionals
work with local governments to ensure victim rescue, to prosecute perpetrators and to
strengthen the community and civic factors that promote functioning public justice
systems
MICHEL VEUTHEY: Welcome to the last of the three webinars on Demand as Root Cause for
Human Trafficking. Today, we shall discuss technology, the role of technology in human traf-
ficking. On behalf of the Order of Malta, I would like to thank Brian Iselin for his active partic-
ipation in the organization of this webinar. As you know, Brian Iselin, founder and CEO of
slavefreetrade, is a pioneer in the demand-approach against human trafficking, and special-
ist in the control of supply chains through technology, with 25 years of field experience
against human trafficking. My thanks also to Sister Mirjam Beike for her help in the prepara-
tion of this and previous webinars. Technology, as we shall discuss today, can be used to
trap as well as to protect victims. We should speak or we could speak of the use and misuse
of technology in human trafficking. Today, we are very fortunate to have four distinguished
speakers. First, Brian Iselin, who will be the moderator and speaker. Former Australian sol-
dier and federal agent, founder of the NGO slavefreetrade, working on eliminating modern
slavery on the workplace. Then, Andrea Marchesani, Special Advisor of the Order of Malta,
and also Member of the Migrants & Refugee Section, of the Integral Human Development
Dicastery of the Holy See. The third speaker is Don Fortunato Di Noto, Catholic Sicilian priest,
President of the Meter Association. In the dark and insidious part of the web, he is engaged
in the fight against the crime of pedophilia and child pornography. And the fourth speaker is
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Shawn Kohl, Director for Central and Eastern Europe for International Justice Mission, IJM, a
human rights agency that secures justice for victims of slavery, sexual exploitation and other
forms of violent oppression. Documents related to technology and human trafficking can be
found and downloaded in the “Handouts” next to the chat at the top right of your screen. A
special thanks again to Brian Iselin, who is now taking over as moderator. Brian, you have
the floor.
BRIAN ISELIN: So thank you very much, Michel, and welcome, everybody to this webinar on
the role of technology in addressing demand in human trafficking. I want to kick off this ses-
sion with a plea for some clarity and use my time, I hope wisely, to address something I’d
noticed before, but which really came into specific relief while researching for this webinar.
While looking for evidence of impact, outcomes, and sustainability data from the major tech
against trafficking projects, I actually found none, universally. What I did find, however, was
how so many projects they claim to be contributing to ending, eliminating or eradicating traf-
ficking. Now the terms that are used to describe actions being taken for the most part are
frankly a little bit hysterical. You find, “eliminate”, “fight and eradicate”, “tackle”, “war
against”. It’s all tough talk and I think it’s, very political. But what does it mean? A quick scan
of initiatives, especially in the tech world at the terms used, just shows to me that there’s
very little thought about the meaning and impact of those words beyond some kind of sen-
sationalism. Now, my plea is that before using these terms to describe an initiative, I would
ask people to consider the realistic impact a single initiative can lay claim to. And is the claim
accurate or hyperbole? Now, if you’re working to support victims of trafficking, you’re not
ending, eradicating or eliminating modern slavery. You’re helping victims, you’re cleaning up
and you’re undoubtedly doing good, but you’re not ending, eradicating or eliminating. If
you’re doing anything on the supply side, in fact, like rescues, identifying victims, police or
intelligence operations, poverty reduction, you’re not ending or eliminating modern slavery.
You are at best addressing vulnerabilities and cleaning up. You may even be confronting it or
attacking it if that language is exciting for you, but you aren’t ending it, eradicating or elimi-
nating. If you’re working on reducing demand for a form of human trafficking, you may hon-
estly say you are working to end, or eliminate, or eradicate, but it’s only on the demand side.
Which is why this webinar is so important. This series of webinars on demand is so impor-
tant. Let me be clear. There is not a single supply-side measure that can ever hope to end,
eliminate or eradicate. If you work on the supply side, just stop using that language. It’s
hyperbole. The reason I raise it is actually bigger than the fact that it’s hyperbole, the fact
that it’s sloppy and sensationalist. It’s confusing to consumers. It’s confusing to donors. It’s
confusing especially to policymakers, and crucially, what we end up with is funds that should
be used to ending, eliminating or eradicating modern slavery, being used to clean up or to
address vulnerabilities. It’s behavior that distorts policy and priorities. And overall, I think it
leads to a global lack of impact. So now that I’ve got that off my chest, I’d like to be able to
talk about one of the only demand-side tech projects out there. I don’t know whether you
know the phrase, the Latin phrase, “Esse Quam Videri”. “To be, not to seem”. Now, this is
the motto of slavefreetrade, a Swiss nonprofit association I formed at the end of 2018. The
meaning of this motto is at the heart of the initiative. I’ve been working decades on slavery
operations in supply chains, and largely I found that businesses are content with seeming to
be doing something, not actually doing something. And by and large, stakeholders, including
consumers, procurement agencies, shareholders and investors are content with the “seem-
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ing”. I’m happy to report, I think, that this has changed. The world is now kind of abuzz with
initiatives in the business, UN, and nonprofit world, to come to terms with an increasingly
engaged, maybe we could even say sometimes agitated community of stakeholders interest-
ed in human rights performance and risk in business. We’re seeing shareholder revolts over
serial sexual harassment. We’re seeing child labor scandals in major clothing brands and the
promotion of sustainability professionals into key leadership roles in companies. Human
rights are suddenly coming into focus a bit more. It would be going too far to say there is
momentum, but perhaps we can agree that there is at least the movement. And this move-
ment coincides with significant legislative movement in that direction from the Modern Slav-
ery Act slipping the Anglophone world, to human rights due diligence models in the Fran-
cophone and the European world. Now taking a step back to take in the view, the corporate
world, which was formerly content to use its blend of structural, instrumental, let’s say, dis-
cursive power to hold back the forces of change in their business model, are finding that
position less tenable. Clever businesses, those with an eye on the emerging world, are
exploring what that wave of change means to them and what they need to do to ride it. How
does a business be and not just seem to be interested in human rights in workplaces? The
first step as Socrates said, to wisdom, is to know thyself. Now, if you’re interested in human
rights in workplaces, it can’t be only about them and over there. That’s called othering. And
it’s the very core of the belief that we’re better than everyone else. And it also is the founda-
tion that we think we are beyond reproach. If you genuinely care about human rights in
workplaces, start at home. Human rights issues don’t just happen over there. Witness the
MeToo Movement, and the BLM Movement. So let’s start with some background on the actu-
al problem we’re addressing here. Universally, we condemn modern slavery and we’ve talked
about this in past webinars and we prohibit it, and yet we all buy it. We touch modern slav-
ery every day more often than we actually touch our faces. And thanks to Covid, we’ve
become very aware of how much we touch our faces every day. Slavery, encompassing the
illegal conditions of child labor, human trafficking, forced labor, slavery and servitude, is now
more prevalent than at any time in history and we’ve heard these numbers over the past few
weeks. 77% of UK businesses when given anonymity, admit modern slavery exists in their
business. Historically, we are used to modern slavery being addressed as a form of organ-
ised crime. Well, historically, since the year 2000. But that conceptualization is far from actu-
ally accurate. The vast majority of the world’s human rights issues in workplaces, forced
labor, child labor, slavery and servitude have little or nothing to do with organized crime.
And law enforcement, in fact, can never solve modern slavery anyway. So law enforcement
or crime-focused approach is not the solution. Modern slavery is actually best understood as
that kind of bad, eroded end of a spectrum of human rights in workplaces. The spectrum
being from modern slavery to decent work. Now, if you can objectively prove a workplace is
at the decent-work end of the spectrum, modern slavery will not be present. You cannot be
at opposite ends of the same spectrum at the same time. So if we can automate and scale
rigorous real-time processes to understand exactly what’s happening in a workplace, we can
determine whether they are at the decent work end or the modern slavery end. So we can
do this through assessing and monitoring conditions in real-time. And what I propose, what I
am developing, is a carefully selected set of 100 indicators derived exclusively from interna-
tional human rights law. So for this exercise, picture, a long row of 100 escalators in a mall
running off into the distance. At the foot of these escalators is the murky swamp of modern
slavery. At the top of the escalators is this world of decent work. Now, what if I told you you
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could know at all times which step you are on for each of those 100 escalators, and whether
you’re moving up or down? Well, that’s the project slavefreetrade. So we’re a Swiss nonprofit
association, and what we want to do is foment a new global economy exclusively for goods
and services proved to have been made without harming anyone, and we do that through
harnessing demand. We envision a world in which an investor can scroll through the New
York Stock Exchange Connect App, and see exactly which companies are human rights
friendly and risk-free. In that same world, a millennial looking at a job in Glasdoor can readily
identify a human rights-friendly employer. A shopper looking at prawns or chocolate in a
supermarket can know which ones have not harmed anyone in the making. A procurement
agency, the Ministry of Defense, evaluating bids for army boots, can see at a glance the
human rights performance of the maker. This is harnessing demand. “Libertas”, it’s a rights-
tech project of slavfreetrade. It’s the use of technology to extend, expand and promote
human rights. It’s an initiative designed to provide the scalable tools for the mission of that
new economy. It’s a technical term. It’s a distributed human rights intelligence system. It’s
designed specifically to drive demand for human rights-friendly workplaces globally. It har-
nesses the compelling power of primary source data from workplaces, that’s individual views
and organizational perspectives alike. It analyzes and distributes the resulting decision intel-
ligence to those whose buying and business decisions can be influenced by that data. Our
approach is not to prove modern slavery exists in workplaces. That’s what I’ve been doing
the last 20 years, and it’s completely unscalable. But actually, our approach is to prove mod-
ern slavery doesn’t exist in workplaces. And that sounds like such an easy flip, right? But this
is actually a watershed moment. This shift signals a move from a treatment model to a vacci-
nation model. Instead of treating each case after it’s happened, we prove and create a cul-
ture of respect for human rights in a workplace, ushering in a world of workplaces that are
impervious, vaccinated, against modern slavery. So slavefreetrade is an initiative designed
with system seeking to overcome and avoid many of the problematic issues and concerns
around all existing methods. So up until now, human rights defied quantification. So “Liber-
tas” quantifies human rights, which means we’re able to monitor, assess and compare in a
way that’s completely agnostic to product, geography, industry, socioeconomic conditions.
Existing responses like rescues and audits, and investigations like I’ve been doing, cannot
scale. They’re labor-intensive, they’re expensive. So “Libertas” is designed to be scalable,
remote, cheap, global coverage, and takes out intermediaries from the system where failure
often comes. Current models, most of you who know about audit will support me on this,
are easily defeated and defrauded. Fraud, false statements, coercion, collusion, greenwash-
ing are commonplace, and the “Libertas” model counters all of those conditions. I think most
of you would also believe and understand that staff are largely ignored or voiceless in the
majority of existing initiatives. There is no comprehensive canvassing of views of workers in
BCorp, Fairtrade, Global Reporting Initiative, sustainability initiatives like EcoVadis and Sus-
tainalytics and so on, they can’t universally canvass workplaces. And so the staff are ignored
or voiceless. You’re pretty much capturing only the corporate view. So “Libertas” amplifies
the voices of those in workplaces in support of their own conditions and in support of the
improvement of those conditions. Now, up until now, power and commodity chains has
been very unbalanced and very unfair. So “Libertas” has a democratizing effect. The staff
working in the global value and commodity chains are the overwhelming majority of people
in those chains. Their voices do matter, but they’re not being canvassed until now. Now, sup-
ply chains are disaggregated, complex, globalized, opaque. These are the sorts of words we
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tend to hear about supply chains. So “Libertas” converts opaque chains, disaggregated net-
works, to collaborative networks, by making each establishment in a business network
dependent on the human rights performance of the others. So suddenly a three-tier supply
chain, each of the partners, each of the companies in that chain become partners. they
understand each other’s human rights conditions. They are much more visible and much
more transparent than ever before, and they actually start to become interested in each
other’s human rights interests. So human rights have been treated previously as separate
from the normal conduct of business, and they’ve been put off in CSR, or ESG, or sustainabil-
ity initiatives. So “Libertas” embeds human rights into the bottom line. In-person audits or
investigations, especially on sensitive topics like human rights, don’t get the best answers.
“Libertas” generates trust because the entire system is built on anonymity and confidentiali-
ty. Importantly for the demand side initiatives, stakeholders like consumers, procurers,
investors, they have not had tangible actions that express their values through buying deci-
sions. So “Libertas” informs them with timely, actionable decision intelligence, including con-
sumers at point of sale, procurers at point of bid, and investors at point of investment. Exist-
ing measures like rescue, surveillance, audit, law enforcement investigations, as I’ve said
before, these are labor-intensive and expensive and you can’t scale them. If we’re going to
eliminate 152 million children from child labor, if we’re going to address that properly, we’ve
got to have a solution that can scale almost infinitely. Most measures on socially sustainable
business are top-down. This makes it look and feel to workers like fundamental human
rights are actually alienable, not inalienable, and something that should be bestowed on
them by the employer. And slavefreetrade, however, is human-centric and inclusive. It’s real-
ly important that people in workplaces realize their rights are not something that the
employer can take away from them. Putting the emphasis on remote data collection and
analysis doesn’t eliminate the need for human intervention. But remote monitoring like this
becomes the new, more comprehensive and more effective default. And so this change ush-
ers in a scalable default only limited by two things actually, goodwill and data storage. Certifi-
cation schemes are also very expensive for small businesses. Many smallholders can’t join.
The membership exceeds their ability to pay. In the slavefreetrade model, smallholders are
free. Implementation costs are negligible. There’s no hardware or setup costs. “Libertas”
runs in a simple browser, mobile application, or with API integrations for different audiences.
If you could hypothetically scale to the global audit work force required, if we wanted to
make audit the real effective default, the cost to match what we can do would easily be
many millions and potentially even billions of dollars a year compared to in our system, a
mere few thousand. So no existing model has had that level of lack of expense let’s say, to
make it possible to do these things on a scale. And no existing model has a universal interna-
tional human rights law framework. This makes it the first deployable definition for decent
work. It’s agnostic to geography, good, service, product, jurisdiction, language, power. I
mean, it doesn’t matter what Bangladesh says are living wages. We’re talking about harness-
ing the views of the people in the workplace about their lived experience. The first piece of
our project to capture consumer demand, and I’m winding up here, and feed that through to
businesses to join and become human rights compliant is what we call the Freedomer App.
So this is a smartphone application which has two phases. We’ve currently designed and we
are currently crowdfunding the coding of phase one. Now, phase one of this App is a
demand aggregator. So at the moment, businesses say their customers don’t care, which is
actually crap. The fact is consumers, let’s talk just you and I for a start, we care. What we
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don’t have is a reliable way to tell them that we care, and we don’t have a way to join our
voices with others to say that we all care. So the Freedomer App does this. A campaigning
App, you put in products that you want to be slave-free, like Levi’s 502’s, and others are then
invited to join your campaign. When we have sufficient signatures to make an appeal to a
brand, we do it on behalf of the, let’s say, thousands of signatories in the App. The thing is
that you care, I care, lots of people care, but our voices are not joined up. So the Freedomer
App is the first time a tool has been developed to do that. So I would ask before I move on to
the other panelists, help us bring the Freedomer App into your hands, and then we can all
harness the power of our own demands for a collective good. So I ask you to go to
wemakeit.com and look for slavefreetrade’s crowdfund. There’s just seven days to go, I think
we’re on 79% or something like that. So the point there is that you can be the difference, you
can actually take a part right now, as soon as we deliver it, you can take a part every day in
providing a growing demand for the end of trafficking and modern slavery. So without any
further ado, you’ve heard enough from me. We’re pleased to bring you a number of great
panelists tonight to talk about what they’re doing, what they’ve seen, and if I may be so bold
to predict what they see we need, or might even be things they know are coming down the
pipeline. So without further ado, we launch straight to our first speaker. Please welcome
Andrea Marchesani, who’s intervention tonight is in his capacity with the Order of Malta as
an adviser to the Foreign Affairs Department of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.
Andrea over to you.
ANDREA MARCHESANI: So as you said, what we see and what is happening and what is hap-
pening with the Covid crisis that exacerbated all these huge world that is Internet and The
Migrants and Refugees Section of the Holy See a few years ago published the Pastoral Orien-
tations on Human Trafficking, after a process of listening to local Churches and to Catholic
organizations and partners on this specific issue, and it would be my pleasure tonight to
transfer these Pastoral Orientations on general human trafficking in the digital world, and
the role of technology. So I would like to start to quote the Pope in his last encyclical “Fratelli
Tutti” (3 October 2020), at the point 24, he mentioned clearly the using of modern means of
communication to lure young men and women in the human trafficking networks. And he
calls for a global effort to eradicate human trafficking. So but after this intervention in the
Fratelli Tutti in 2002, John Paul II individuated three problems coming up with the globaliza-
tion related to the trade in human beings. And we can see that the three arms of globaliza-
tion, market, media, and migrations, they form the perfect macro context for human traffick-
ing because human trafficking evolved in a different way in these three channels. So we can
say, as we know, that the virtual territory is problematic to be controlled by security, by
police, by the States, because it is a huge world. And we can see that Google only shows 1%
of what can be found on Internet. So these are what Don Fortunato called the digital periph-
eries, and for the Pope, these are the same peripheries, the existential peripheries that Pope
Francis invite the Church to live in and to save and to help people in. So passing to the Pas-
toral Orientations, we divide in the work that the section, the Holy See Section for Migrants
and Refugees prepare. The first chapters was about understanding the human trafficking
causes and so the commodification and exploitation, the demand aspect. And so if in human
trafficking generally, we have a commodification and the person become a commodity, an
object in human trafficking, in the digital peripheries we have a next-level commodification.
And the human person is not just an object, but becomes an amount of data, videos and pic-
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tures which are transferable, and the virtual abuse can be perpetrated an exponential num-
ber of times in different places on Earth. So not just once, but the dignity of the human being
is violated several times. The same dignity. And this was maybe what Martin Heidegger
defined the “essence of technology”, where all distances in time and space are shrinking, and
technology changes the borders and allows the man to became an amount of data and to be
manipulated many times. And we can link to this what the Pope called the “widespread of
growing digital narcissism” in his message for the World Youth Day in 2020. So this is a next
level and exacerbation of the reality of nature and things and persons, because technologies
create the means and we are not even in control of this. The second part of this first chapter
of the Pastoral Orientation is the demand aspect. And the demand is not so far from us. It is
in our houses, homes, in our families, because technologies are invasive. They enter in our
lives and we see human trafficking without seeing it. So acknowledging human trafficking,
there is like a blanket of fog hiding the phenomenon, but at the same time it is in plain sight,
because every time that we enter on Internet and we go either on Instagram or other social
networks, we can see human trafficking without seeing it, because these are all channels
used to lure people. In Italy, in the last years, there were many cases of luring on Facebook,
on Instagram, on other social networks, and cyber trafficking target mainly people that are
experiencing difficult times, or they are the most vulnerable like children that are excluded
or neglected or that don’t have any friends. And this use of Facebook and social networks is
used also in migration issues. For instance, Scotland Yard found 539 pages on Facebook
offering “safe”, not so safe routes to Europe with discounts for minors. And this is for
migrants. So another strategy used on social networks is that traffickers identify the victims,
add friends in common, gain trust, and always they target these most vulnerable people.
Another chapter that is very near, that is in our homes, that is around us, is the pornogra-
phy. There is a normalization, a cultural normalization of pornography. But in pornography,
the position of the Catholic Church is that it is already human trafficking, even without coer-
cion because it damages, it destroys the dignity of the human being that becomes a mere
object of pleasure for others, for third parties, for many times. And also in this world, the
most searched term on these pornography portals are usually “youth” and “teens” cate-
gories. And in that case, we have human trafficking as it is also stated in international Proto-
cols, not only for the Catholic Church. And many times, the borders between pornography
and coercion and prostitution are very thin. There are many cases exposed of pornography
industries and producers that coerce the actors to be prostitutes as well. So the sexual
searches on Internet, 4 millions of these Web searches look for “youth” categories. Keep that
in mind. But also adults can be lured into this world and it is very difficult to escape this. So
for the dynamics… I will not talk about “Dark web” and “Deep web” because they are very big
worlds, and I think maybe Don Fortunato later will focus more on these. But this is a huge
world of websites, of spaces and file-sharing platforms that are not controlled, checked, and
they can not be supervised by police force, maybe from stakeholders, Web stakeholders,
yes, but it’s very difficult. So about the dynamics, there is a problem because this opens the
sensitive issue of Web and IT company’s responsibility, because the Internet world is of
course, connected to the Internet. But the business measures on “likability” if I can use this
word, on how many times people visualize and watch content, and the profits boggles the
mind, and the profit increase as more people watch something. So there is no interest for
providers to eradicate. I don’t want to be sensationalist, to eradicate and to eliminate the
contents otherwise. And there is another thing, there is the tradeoff between privacy and
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control. And this is another controversial issue. And we saw that algorithm many times bans
licit activities while searching for illicit activities. We can see that as well in the in the normal
life of social networks. We can say that all the profits should be asked for accountability and
for supervision of contents. I would like for a while to focus as well on migrants, on migrants
and technology. Migrants enter human trafficking because there are offers of fake jobs, safe
passages on migratory routes, and the problem is that it is very difficult to track money circu-
lation because there are systems of circulating money without any control on Internet. But
what we can do, because the last chapter of the Pastoral Orientations is responding to
human trafficking. And the first is education and parental control, I would say, and culture
against this self-serving narcissism and this primacy given only to technology, to appearance
and chase for image that we can see today on Internet. And the role in education and
parental control of course is to parents. And I think that we have to raise awareness on the
role and the dangers of technologies. Just for children having a smartphone that a trafficker
could easily enter in. Another, and on this I want to be sensationalist is the problem of
pornography, and as a Catholic, as a Special Adviser of the Order of Malta and of the Holy
See, I would call to block pornography providers and websites. Because there is no control
and many times it was discovered that people were displayed on videos without their willing,
and providers didn’t delete these contents. The first thing is to call for website’s responsibili-
ty and accountability. This is very difficult, and I cannot go further in this issue because it
goes very far. And another initiative could be partnership platforms to track human traffick-
ing, to use the same technology to track human trafficking. But here we can open up anoth-
er problem, another dilemma that is the nature of technology, of information technology, if
you have powerful means, and the traffickers have powerful means because what we are
observing, what we are monitoring is that traffickers and criminal network organizations are
becoming very skilled in the use of information technology. To create platforms and partner-
ship to track human trafficking could be hand up in creating an open market that they can
breach. An open market of victims for retaliation or for new abuses, because what the gov-
ernments around the world are experiencing is a security breach in their Internet security
networks and architectures structures. So the Catholic Church, of course, will support tech-
nological and legal co-operation. But, we have to be very careful and it is still a no man’s
land, the creation of technological platforms to create databases and to use the information
you said before from satellites, because it is very difficult to guarantee the security of these
platforms and technology is evolving. So I would like to articulate finally on the attention on
three words, care, knowledge and culture. So the care that we should have for the younger
in helping them, in supporting them, in not leaving them alone in the technology world. The
knowledge to understand how these technological means are evolving. And cultural, both in
raising awareness and both in the schools, or with the youngest to avoid and to help them to
escape these dangers that are for everyone on the Web. Not to mention that the Pope
remembers the easiness of being part of the supply chain on Internet, because we could
easily be a part without even noticing. And lastly, I would like to suggest that all these tech-
nologies or these new contents, pornography, social network, they have a profound impact
on the thinking and behavior of children. And those that I mention are the actions that
should be a support, even if it is very difficult to do that. Thank you.
BRIAN ISELIN: Our technology is keeping up. Many thanks, Andrea. You’re absolutely right.
The replication of abuse, using technology to double down on the abuse of minors and oth-
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ers in vulnerable situations is a clear and present danger to us all. On a related theme about
the use of technology by traffickers, we will now, I understand Michel, we will now cross to a
video from Don Fortunato.
DON FORTUNATO: I cordially greet all participants in this important session which deals with
one of the thorniest, most important topic that lead us to the protection of children, in a
world truly torn apart by such serious situations involving children, their trafficking and
especially their exploitation, including through the Internet. The theme I’ve been given is a
very particular one, especially in terms of the criminological actions of pedophiles online.
Obviously, we need to establish some fundamental points of this crime that occurs against
humanity, and which seems merely virtual. We must always consider the virtual as if it exists,
because the virtual is the real life of men. And therefore, even through the Internet, criminal
pedophiles and child pornographers, who have a perversion for personal enjoyment in the
exploitation of innocence, they’ve obviously set up actual organizations who bring into being
a well-defined strategy, and above all a strategy that has as its purpose the annihilation, the
abuse, the sale and the trafficking of children. And we’re not talking about a few hundred
children, even if of course just one case is a very serious matter that happens before our
eyes and that requires knowledge on the one hand, but on the other hand also legislative
interventions, investigative interventions, but above all formative and informative interven-
tions, where society must, and the Church too, must answer for the protection of the inno-
cent, the children of the world. Therefore, let us establish a fact. Child pornography and pae-
dophilia are crimes on a global scale. We must understand that more and more there are no
geographical boundaries, and the Internet continues to be a no man’s land, an indefinite
“landscape” without limits in which criminality can act almost undisturbed. Very often, from
the links analyzed by Meter, it appears that the extension of the domain, although belonging
geographically to a Nation, it contains services provided by servers located in other parts of
the world. So imagine, currently our 2020 Report shows that America and Europe are the pri-
mary locations of the servers that handle the traffic of information, and especially the traffic
of minors, with regard to the whole criminal system that has been implanted, which was
built for exploiting innocence, and on the other hand for providing a range of financial sys-
tems who bring a criminal business on the backs of children. Therefore, who uses the Inter-
net? We have seen that it is a global system, worldwide, sometimes free of charge; it is pro-
vided by server providers, and there is the possibility to identify “paradisiac” areas where
there is not enough legislation, or sometimes weak, or sometimes even absent. And so, the
possibility of being able to take advantage of “free file hosting”, the possibility of free file
hosting services, this allows, in a massive and very intense way, for pedophiles and child
pornographers, the use and trafficking of children and human beings. But who is the
pedophile? The cyber pedophile is an individual who finds on the Internet the possibility to
satisfy their own sexual fantasies, contravening the moral rules that the society in which he
lives imposes on him. He also manages to satisfy, in a virtual way, his own impulses. All this
produces nothing but greater deviance and above all an estrangement from real reality, and
therefore from real life. Also not to be underestimated is the refined ability of cyber
pedophiles to make the best use of technology to achieve their goals. There are therefore
different types of pedophiles who use the Web. For every type of pedophiles we can very
well give a profile. The first is the “Closet Collector”: he jealously guards his entire child
pornography collection, and is never personally involved in child abuse. Then we have the
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“Isolated Collector”: and he is a pedophile who collects child pornography by choosing a cat-
egory in particular, and is involved directly in child abuse. The isolated collector is someone
who has whole archives, with for example abused infants, or he prefers only white girls, and
maybe with particular somatic characteristics, or blond hair or dark hair, or only male chil-
dren of well defined age, and with special characteristics. The isolated collector truly has this
ability to be able to have real mega archives, we’re talking here sometimes in investigations,
in identifying these subjects, tens of millions of images can be found that correspond to tens
of millions of children already involved and already abused. Then we have the so-called
“Commercial Collector” who is personally involved in the sexual exploitation of children, and
who produces, copies and sells child pornography material. Here is the actual structure of
organizations, or covens or groups no longer isolated, who have implanted a real trade that
is also linked to the actual exploitation of children; it emerges very clearly that amongst the
commercial pedophiles who sells the material, as much as 40–50 % of them are individuals
who have directly abused children, and have then photographed, filmed and sold it. On the
other side then, there is the real organizational structure of pedocrime, which is complex
and hierarchical, that, with forced parental consent, sometimes take little victims to make
them available for the mere purpose of sexual assault in order to gain economic profit
through real and virtual meetings. Therefore you understand that the cyber pedophile needs
to have the child: he seeks the child, he makes material with the child and sells the material
with the child who has already been abused. And this is really one of the elements that per-
haps we should deepen to understand that it’s not just a serious, a very serious, sexual
deviance and of preference for children; we’re talking here about kids that have been
trapped in an actual business of human trafficking and of sexual exploitation, and where
there are actual organizations. In this regard, I believe it is necessary to establish the classifi-
cation itself of pedophiles. There is the “seductive pedophile”: he’s very affectionate, gives
many gifts to the child and, with his manipulative skills, gets the child’s complicity, guaran-
teeing silence for himself. We also have another category that has been studied, and Meter
has made much contribution not only to these categories but also to other developments
that led to an identification of more refined elaborations of the pedophile profile; imagine
for example the pedophile moms, for whom we have found a thread, the so-called “pedoma-
ma”, where the mothers themselves abuse their babies, and sells the product of the abuse,
perpetrated by the mothers themselves. However, there’s also the “introverted pedophile”:
he hardly uses seductive approaches, and he communicates very little with children. Another
category, another profile is the “sadistic pedophile”, and we can say that he’s the most dan-
gerous: he takes pleasure in seeing the physical and psychological suffering of the child, sets
traps and uses force to carry out kidnappings, with the extreme result of killing the victim.
Then the “cyber-pedophile”, which we mentioned, but he doesn’t actually abuse the children,
but uses the material of child pornography, that involves obviously the abuse of real chil-
dren, and the production of increasingly advanced and structured material, we’ve confirmed
it in the things that already I told you. He finds on the Internet or through the underground
trade, think about the Deep web or the Dark web, it’s a chapter which in my humble opinion
should be much more studied and we should find a way to overcome the concept of total
online freedom and thus the protection of privacy, and especially the privacy of pedophiles.
However, even though he doesn’t produce material, he’s using it. The cyber-pedophile clearly
increases demand on the global market of production of images, and therefore of child
abuse. Then you understand that in the collective imaginary the pedophile is a monster, a
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recognizable individual among many. In reality, he’s just an ordinary person, very ordinary,
well-groomed and often with a good social standing, unsuspected and usually very close to
children, which can range from the figures of the father, the mother or a close relative, but
also and above all it can be a subject that has subdued, maybe kidnapped, the issue of miss-
ing children can also be linked, and why not, we’ve had reports of children being abducted
and subjugated, enslaved for years and years, and then maybe after so many years identi-
fied. The problem with child pornography, you have to understand, is evidently linked to the
figure of the pedophile, that we are trying as far as we can, to analyse objectively, and that is
morally speaking disturbing and that needs more effective action at the global level. So I will
conclude by saying that the pedophile, evidently here, is mostly a male, this aspect is pre-
dominant, and feels a strong sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Prepubescent
means children under the age of 12–13 years, that is to say that have not yet the sexual
maturity, and therefore we can sort of, from the point of view of gender, yes male and
female, but also indistinct in the aspect of sexual maturity. Often the pedophile has a greater
preference for female children, and even in these contexts, in these years there is an
increase in the production of child pornography with male children, always prepubescent.
It’s really a very submerged market, but it’s a market that now has emerged, because of the
numerous, the thousands of reports and complaints, but also the commitment of law
enforcement agencies around the world, of the police forces who do their best to combat
this phenomenon. But much more needs to be done, and I can tell you that the 30 years of
experience that we have at Meter, allows us to get a profile of the pedophile, how he oper-
ates. But most importantly the great tragedy of the commercialization of children, because
they are considered waste, but it is a waste that yields profit for organized crime. I’ll stop
here. Thank you for listening. The limited time has allowed me to synthesize the theme that
was offered to me as far as concerns the figure of the pedophile in the world of the Web and
in the field of pedophile crime, without forgetting, however, that the prevalence that
emerges is that the pedophile, the child pornographer or those who commercializes and
exploits children harms the children, the future of our humanity. Thank you very much and
have a good continuation.
BRIAN ISELIN: Okay. Michel, I have to say it’s always seriously shocking to explore this world
of child sexual abuse and pedophilia. And thanks to Don Fortunato for taking us through
that. It reminds me just recently there was a poll at the end of last year in France. This is not
isolated, 1 in 10 children in France abused by family members only. So if we think about the
total numbers, we’re really looking at a shocking, shocking situation. So please welcome our
next panelist. Shawn Kohl is an attorney from the US working on child rights and trafficking
cases the last 16 years. He’s been with International Justice Mission for 11 years, living and
working in Southeast Asia, East Africa, and Eastern Europe. So Shawn, over to you.
SHAWN KOHL: Great thanks to you, Brian, and thanks to Michel and Andrea, and Father as
well. It’s a pleasure and a privilege to be able to contribute something small this evening.
Technology is like the apple. It can be turned for bad and it can also be something very, very
good. And so it’s something that has two sides of it. And I hope to explore a little bit about
that this evening, because there are things that we can do. There are things in civil society, as
individuals, as law enforcement, both supply and demand side that we can work on. I’m
going to share some slides, if we could pull up the presentation? Great. If we could go to
number one, we’re giving people a sneak peek there. So here we go. So this is just to give
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you a little bit of background about who we are. International Justice Mission (IJM) is a global
organization that protects the vulnerable from violence by rescuing victims, helping to bring
criminals to justice, restoring survivors to safety and strength and helping law enforcement
build a safe future that lasts. IJM utilizes a collaborative case work approach, working with
government partners, employing multidisciplinary teams of investigators, lawyers, social
workers, in cases of exploitation. IJM’s case work, we actually use that as a diagnostic tool to
inform our programs, to inform advocacy and capacity building with government and civil
society partners. And I would like to stress the importance of a holistic approach. That we
must begin to look at trafficking through the lens of perpetrators. Determine what motivates
their actions, and concentrate our efforts to eliminate the benefits of trafficking. Both crimi-
nal accountability and financial disincentive. Both supply and demand. That will be the most
effective way to address trafficking in human beings. We must also have agility and think
outside the box. We must be smarter and adapt to meet emerging trends and new criminali-
ties that have moved to adopt technology for its benefit and use. We must also do the exact
same thing and utilize technology to combat human trafficking. I would like to talk to you a
little bit and share with you some of the ways that technology that we have seen around the
world at IJM in cases of human trafficking and exploitation. One significant and emerging
trend is the use of technology to livestream the sexual exploitation of children. Father just
mentioned a little bit about this. We often see that offenders connect using social media net-
works, and then utilize text communication, many times encrypted, then send money from
the demand side, typically Western countries, but this can be from anywhere in the world, to
supply side countries. After money has been exchanged, live streaming of sexual exploita-
tion occurs many times at the live direction of the perpetrators in demand-side countries.
This is a significant problem today, and it is an emerging and growing phenomenon. Just
since the Covid epidemic, we’ve seen a 31% increase in the child sexual exploitation material
reports received by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in the United
States. Why is the United States relevant? Because that is an agency that receives reports
and tips from around the world that utilize US based platforms and others that traffickers
often utilize, which you and I actually have many of those networks and platforms on our cell
phone tonight. If you were to open up your phone right now, I almost guarantee you would
have those platforms on there. In 2020 alone, we saw 21 million reports received by the
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, compared to 16 million in 2019. So near-
ly a five million increase in one year. We also know that the Philippines was an epicenter of
this phenomenon. The Philippine Interagency Council Against Trafficking, reported an
increase of 300% in reports from 2019 to 2020. So what can be done? Well, there are innova-
tions in tools that are being developed around the world that will require our advocacy. So I
saw some comments there. What can we actually do? There are some things that we can do.
There are advocacy around ensuring that they are implemented. The latest artificial intelli-
gence, innovation and tools, can be utilized to proactively detect and block images of live
streaming sexual exploitation. Similar to large platforms that are currently removing and tak-
ing down images or even statements because of misuse, a similar approach could be utilized
through artificial intelligence. Additionally, there must be requirements for individuals and
corporations to report such abuse to law enforcement. These measures are critical because
it helps with accountability, and data measurement to determine the prevalence of live
streaming. We must know and understand this phenomenon before we can adequately
address it. This helps governments to better understand victimology and criminology, ascer-
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tain locations and levels of exploitation, which all support an evidence-based and targeted
approach to prevention and timely rescue through law enforcement. These types of crimes
often take place in the privacy of the home where there is no ability for victims to reach out
to others, particularly when they are children. That’s why we need the actual providers and
deliverers of the content to work responsibly, to identify and help stop the behavior. Govern-
ments play a key role in combating the live sexual exploitation of children through policy and
regulation, but we’ve actually seen a very slow understanding on the part of legislators and
policy experts to take informed action. We need the development of very clear guidelines
and accountability mechanisms for tech companies, and equally important, if not more
important, financial institutions. Unless there is some form of accountability for both
demand and supply side, and I appreciate that that has been highlighted throughout this
series, both demand and supply side for the companies that are intermediaries for video
and financial exchange, we will not see the decrease or any deterrent for this type of behav-
ior. This problem is not going to go away without disruption of the behavior through criminal
and financial accountability. It is our job to figure out how to do that. But we have seen some
successes when law enforcement, NGOs and others work together. From 2011 to 2019,
International Justice Mission and the support of the government in the Philippines, were able
to secure the rescue of 527 victims, and convict 70 individuals, that may have never been
caught otherwise, who could still be offending today. It is possible for NGOs to work with law
enforcement to build better and smarter capabilities to confront this crime. We also need
greater regulation of the financial intermediaries and institutions to understand the phe-
nomenon and take a proactive role in thwarting their use and services by criminals. Compa-
nies must understand how their institutions are being utilized by criminal enterprises and
take action to systemically report suspicious behavior and patterns, rather than hiding it or
turning a blind eye. We need to develop better policies and mandated reporting mecha-
nisms. There are several other ways in which technology is used in other forms of human
trafficking. Social networking has been mentioned this evening, and it’s used all the time by
recruiters to target vulnerable populations and recruit them for exploitation with promise of
jobs or fictitious relationships. Mobile communication often occurs between traffickers,
recruiters and victims. We are working on a labor trafficking case currently where all of the
communications and transports were arranged through social media from the UK, to recruit
vulnerable people in rural Romania. We also see online advertising coupled with private
messaging. I know that we’ve discussed today, this evening earlier with Father, the emer-
gence of the Dark web over the last several years, which is true and it is horrific. But we have
actually seen in the majority of our live streaming cases that we’ve worked on in the Philip-
pines, that service Web based applications are utilized in most cases. Surface Web applica-
tions are easy to use and they’re familiar to us all. In fact, that’s their appeal to traffickers. In
fact, if you open your phone right now, you will find all of the applications a criminal might
need to do any of the exploitive practices we have already discussed. We’re not talking about
high-tech sophistication, and that is one reason why it has become so prolific. These are just
basic Apps that are on your thumb and my phone. It is important to note that all the good
things that can be used for can also be used for bad. Research of particularly vulnerable
groups, facilitation of travel, moving money covertly, obscuring identity, surveillance and
phone tracking. Criminals have all these tools readily available. All these innovations were
developed for good, but unfortunately can also be used for bad. Think of a traffic-tracking
App. For me, I like to use that for my loved ones. It helps me know where they are, if they’re
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late, if there’s an accident or not. But it can also be used to coerce and maintain control over
victims that might be working on the streets without the physical presence of a handler. In
many of our cases of trafficking, where there’s cases of handlers of victims that may no
longer need to be necessary if a victim must stay on a street and have their phone and app
and their location readily available for the trafficker, which might be in a building close by. So
let’s take a deep breath. That’s a lot of bad news and between the last two presentations and
this one, we all just might need to take a deep breath and relax for a moment. But there are
ways and there are things that we could do. So here’s a little bit of hope. There are very con-
crete and practical ways that you and I can join the effort to combat trafficking with technol-
ogy. We don’t have to be hopeless. We can make a difference. And I can suggest some ways
that IJM and its partners have found to make a difference. Technology can be used to block,
map and identify websites that promote harmful practices or hide exploitation that offer
escort, massage, prostitution or false employment opportunities. Technology can be utilized
in targeted ways to reach victims through the same social media Apps that we know vulnera-
ble groups are using. So why not use those same smart messages that are pushed to individ-
uals that will fall within the most prevalent, vulnerable groups. Just as businesses target
audiences, why shouldn’t we also utilize this research, market-based approach in order to
reach persons traveling from countries of origin to destination with messages in their feeds?
I don’t know if you had this experience, but somehow I land if I’m traveling in Europe, and I
travel from the Netherlands to Rome, the company is right there. And they’re the first ones
to greet me and welcome me to Italy. Because there’s a new service provider, because
they’re going to make some money, and they know that I’ve actually landed. So why can’t we
utilize that same exact technology to tell individuals that we know through our mapping
exercises where the most vulnerable routes are? What language settings are the most vul-
nerable groups? So that we can also push out messages, if you have need, do you need any
help? These are the emergency numbers. Why aren’t we using that same type of technology,
rather than just using technology for money? Why don’t we actually use it to help share
information? IJM is using some of these techniques about pushing messages already in
Southeast Asia, and we will be piloting them in our cross-border program in Europe soon.
We have also included survivor voice in order to help us create relevant messages. And so
having the leadership of a survivor that has actually gone through an exploitive condition, to
actually formulate those messages. So we’re sending relevant messages to individuals that
we know are in vulnerable areas. Additionally, if perpetrators use technology to reach out,
try and recruit individuals, we can also use those same platforms. Dig a little deeper, find out
who is behind some of these advertisements and platforms in order to determine if they are
legitimate or not or pose risks to vulnerable groups. These recruitment platforms must be
visible, otherwise they would not be effective. We can utilize that fact and conduct investiga-
tions and analysis online to find and determine if some of those opportunities are really rus-
es to exploit people. Particularly when we have reports from victims of abuse about some of
these agencies or platforms. Now, I’d like to share a few ways in which we can present data
to help us be more strategic in our efforts. We can use technology to help us better under-
stand the trafficking phenomenon in order to strategically inform our investments to combat
human trafficking. We need smarter, more relevant interventions formed by data. We can
use technology to help us understand trafficking routes, forms of exploitation, travel corri-
dors and recruitment methodologies. This information is vital to help us become smarter
and use all of our resources more effectively. Heat mapping, for example, when we have
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enough data, can help us determine where the crimes are occurring and what time and sea-
son they are most prevalent. This is an example of a heat map to help identify when, where
and how frequently crimes are occurring. Again, this is important to inform our strategies for
effective and efficient prevention and rescue. I saw this technology actually utilized by the
World Bank in Nairobi, Kenya, in an area that had a lot of crimes, for them to actually map
the reports also via technology, reports of crimes so that they could actually enhance light-
ing, they could increase patrols, they can move individuals around in that area. This is an
example of taking information from victims and cross-referencing that human intelligence
from survivors with satellite imagery to understand border crossing routes. Our teams
worked with partners to map all crossing routes accessible by vehicles from Cambodia to
Thailand. We cross-referenced this information with victim statements in actual real cases
that we were working on, to begin to map the border crossings most used by traffickers. This
information, government actors and NGOs can better focus with this information. We can all
better focus our awareness, prevention and inspection efforts. This slide shows the most
prevalent routes for the traveling of Romanians in Europe. This can also shape resource allo-
cation for targeted awareness and rescue efforts. And so as individuals, if they’re taking cer-
tain plane trips and they are a certain nationality, and they’re going to a certain airport, then
you can target those individuals very specifically and provide them with the information that
they need so they don’t fall into forms of exploitation. This data shows a comparative break-
down of labor versus sexual exploitation that require distinct approaches to create aware-
ness campaigns, develop targeted messaging and intervention strategies. This is using data
to help tell a story. An innovative strategy that a partner of ours in Romania, eLiberare. They
developed a website that attracted persons with the ruse of easy money. Their staff and vol-
unteers attended festivals across Romania and gave out flyers and took photos with their
pictures in euros and dollar bills. Through this, they were able to understand anonymised
data of individuals who later visited the website. The age group that most frequently visited
the site were between 14 and 16 year old girls. They were also able to identify key geographi-
cal markers. This information helps informed approach towards awareness raising. Once the
visitor to the site penetrated a certain level, then a warning message was given that these
types of unrealistic, lucrative offers can be dangerous, and how to report a crime. If perpe-
trators are using technology for nefarious purposes, why can’t we use it for good? We can
and should develop and utilize technology to find practical ways of using trauma-informed
strategies in individual cases. One such way that we utilize this is to take best evidence
through video recording of witness statements that can be used later at court through sup-
porting law enforcement. This decreases possible re-traumatisation of victims, and could
allow victims that have been repatriated to their home country to still give testimony in desti-
nation countries where they were exploited, without the need to travel there. Many times
victims can be traumatised to return to those countries, and it can be a very scary and intimi-
dating process. The thought of seeing the perpetrator again in person, may keep the sur-
vivor from engaging with a criminal proceedings, allowing the perpetrator to go free to
abuse others. Thus, if their evidence-in-chief is taken by recording, then the victim may give
their cross-examination testimony by remote link. This use of technology is gaining ground
and is effective during Covid, and during cases where victims have already been repatriated.
IJM has supported the live streaming of victim testimony from a rural town in Kenya, to a
courtroom in the UK. We should advocate for this type of procedures in each legal system.
Another use of video recording includes victim impact statements. NGOs can and should
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advocate for this in each case where you’re able to. There is a growing trend to video record
victim impact statements so that a court can understand the full impact that the exploitation
had on victims and their families Recorded impact statements are used in some jurisdictions
by the court to consider sentencing or compensation. Video recorded victim impact state-
ments may require additional work on the part of law enforcement and NGOs, but it can be
very powerful. We have a case where individuals were recruited and exploited for labor in
the construction industry in the UK. With just these facts alone, if heard by a judge in the UK,
may not be that compelling. However, seeing a person, hearing their story, and that they
took from their meager life savings, to pay for the job opportunity, and actually took out
loans that they and their family are still paying back. Showing physically where they currently
live in a one room house for a family of eight, can give a judge a little bit better understand-
ing of the depth of the impact on real people’s lives. And that’s a story that deserves and
should be told. This allows a survivor to share their real and personal story, giving them
voice that they may otherwise not have had. This is important for the sentence and potential
reparation or compensatory ruling depending on the jurisdiction. So the message is one of
urgent need, but also of hope. Technology in and of itself is not bad and it is here to stay, but
we must adapt and utilize it for good. Thank you so much for listening.
BRIAN ISELIN: Thank you very much, Shawn. The simultaneous attraction and danger of the
apple of the technology tree, and smarter use of data is a great clarion call. Thanks also for
the good news in your presentation, that was very much needed to be frank. So let’s have a
look at some of the questions. So we had a question from Yvette Stevens: “I heard that
young boys are being lured for human traffickers to become international footballers. Inter-
national football is being seen as a way to rise to fame and traffickers are taking advantage
of this.” I saw Shawn posted a short reply to that, as I did already. Does anybody want to say
anything more about that one?
SHAWN KOHL: I’ll just add that there are some really good NGOs that are focused on this,
particularly ones looking from Africa to Europe, and those are phenomenal NGOs. I would
encourage you to seek them out, to find them to see how you can support them. And that is
an actual ruse. And I think I would agree wholeheartedly with what Brian said, there’s very
different, many different stories. But it is something that tries to take on hope, hope of a bet-
ter life, of a better condition, of “grass is greener on the other side”. Any way that that story
can be manipulated and told, it will be told. So it’s really tricking someone. So that is a defi-
nitely a ruse out there and there are NGOs working on it, which is very important.
BRIAN ISELIN: So true. It always struck me that there was this level of sadness around the
cases of trafficking when you looked at a village, for example, and you looked at who was
trafficked and who wasn’t, it tended to be the dreamers who were most at risk. So these are
the brightest in many ways, the brightest in a community that say “I’ve got a dream”, the
Golden Road, open up a shop in Bangkok, or whatever. They’ve got this dream and it’s that
dream that’s taken advantage of. And it’s one of the very saddest features, I think, of human
trafficking globally is the abuse of this dream, the killing of the dream. So without more ado,
another auditor asks: “Problems in the use of technology is the need for funding. It’s easy for
the syndicates to use it since they have financial resources. So how can we use technology
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without needing more financial resources?” Who would like to have a go at that thorny
question? Andrea’s got a smile. I think he wants to do
ANDREA MARCHESANI: No. Just to say that this is a problem that we are experiencing. I think
our role, what we can do is advocacy to States, because States can intervene. States can
have the instruments, can have the mechanisms and have the funding. They can decide to
use the funds to work on this because you can create platforms, you can use in a small scale
your technology. But to to give a substantial response to the phenomenon, only the national
States can do that I think. BRIAN ISELIN: Michel.
MICHEL VEUTHEY: I like very much what Shawn said, but also the answer by Andrea. Defi-
nitely, States should understand that human trafficking is not a side crime. It is a threat to
national and international security. So if they take this as a threat to national and interna-
tional security, they will find the needed resources to deal with it. And indeed, it is not neces-
sarily NGOs nor the Order of Malta nor possibly UN agencies, but most definitely the States
alone or better even in cooperation, regional cooperation, or universal cooperation, could
actually find the resources, find all sorts of human resources, the technological resources to
deal with those issues.
BRIAN ISELIN: Yes, it’s not really about lack of money, if you look at how much money is
spent globally on counter trafficking. It’s really about the allocation of those resources within
the bucket and the will to tackle things. So Yvette Stevens has asked: “We’ve heard about
what NGOs are doing now. What about what governments are doing in affected countries?”
Anybody? Shawn? SHAWN KOHL: Well we can offer our partnership in the Philippines. I
mean, the Philippines was the epicenter globally, and recognized of live streaming. And they
actually sat down individuals within the Philippines Government, sat down with key NGO
leaders and plotted a course forward. And were able to open up and authentically share
information, to be honest and genuine about data or the lack of their ability to get data. And
then they were able to work closely with experts and from a vulnerable position, saying “we
would like some assistance”, whether that’s through other law enforcement around the
world. So I think kind of hiding behind “I’m law enforcement or I am government, we don’t
need any help”, which we encounter sometimes in the various different countries. We need
to break that glass and just say, “no it’s going to take absolutely everybody at the table to
work on this and nobody can pop up and say, I’ve got all the answers”. We need to address
supply, we need to address demand, and we need to share data and be authentic about it.
So really, partnerships, funding allocation in the right areas could be very, very helpful. Pass-
ing policies that will hold companies and financial institutions accountable. You can’t just
turn a blind eye when all of the money is coming through certain financial institutions. You
have a proactive duty to come up with ideas around what are the indicators? What are the
markers? Okay, they can figure those out. We were able to partner with the Philippines Gov-
ernment, Australian Federal Police, US and others, Nordic Police. There’s a study that looks
at live streaming, the prevalence thereof, and they come up with markers. They came up
with countries that those markers are most relevant to. We have to begin to get to data and
information and sharing, and we can’t keep that hidden anymore. And we have to hold indi-
vidual platforms and also financial institutions accountable. Then they will start, then they
will start changing.
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BRIAN ISELIN: We have another question. We can take another question, Michel, yes? So this
is from…
MICHEL VEUTHEY: In answer to what Shawn said, because I think we need platforms, we
need networks and networks of governments and also civil society. One example is the San-
ta Marta Group. The Santa Marta Group was established by Pope Francis, and you have
there Catholic bishops working with law enforcement authorities from various governments,
and now it’s opening up to other religions. So I think it’s very important. Also we have
RENATE (Religious in Europe Networking Against Trafficking and Exploitation), and we have a
person from RENATE in attendance. You have also Talitha Kum. So you have networks also of
religious congregations. And we had for example in a previous webinar, we had Mrs. Cristina
Duranti from the Good Shepherd International Foundation (Bon Pasteur Kolwezi), and
Mrs. Cristina Duranti was an excellent speaker. And you see that, some of those religious
congregations have managed at least part of technology. And we should actually encourage
this and we should possibly try to team up with them.
BRIAN ISELIN: Thank you, Michel. So, Mary Patricia Mulhall has asked a question directed at
Shawn, very informative: “How do you get across the message to 13 to 16 year olds in the UK
who will see this as out there and this would never happen to me?”
SHAWN KOHL: Yes great question. And that was actually one of the efforts of our partner
eLiberare in Romania. They actually developed this website, it was an easy money. And many
young people think they are invincible. This isn’t going to happen to me. And this message
kind of slap them right in the face and said, “You actually took the bait. You actually went
down this path.” And by also identifying the 13 to 16 year old children and the geography,
then you can actually target prevention and education strategies rather than having kind of a
broad strategy all over the country that spends tons of money, you can have targeted inter-
ventions. And so also having survivor informed, and this webinar series did a fantastic job,
Michel and Brian, I believe it was two seminars ago (13 April 2021) that had the forced prosti-
tution highlighted and what that was and having those survivors speak into prevention
strategies of talking to people, they should be leading and highlighted and put on platforms
such as these. Speaking into this, “this is how it happened to me, this is what happened to
me”. And they are very vulnerable to come and to share their story. But that story is power-
ful and it’s real. And for a 13 to 16 year old person to hear that or to meet one of those indi-
viduals, I think they would pause, I know at least those in my family would pause and would
listen to that individual. There is something that they have, that they have gone through that
they can share and they’re sharing of a place of vulnerability, which is really a tremendous
gift to each one of us. And so having more platforms for individuals like that, not in a poorly
designed way, but really in an empowering way, someone that has come out of a situation of
exploitation and is empowered through it, and can speak with an empowered voice. Have
those individuals leading this effort, that is powerful, and that will make a change. And so I
would encourage any opportunity to find individuals like that, that they can tell their story,
not from a sad, not the end of the seminar or the individual webinar, but really leading that
process. That’s what we need. And that can have great impact with individuals in that age
group, I believe.
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BRIAN ISELIN: Next question. Perhaps this one I’ll give Andrea. Yvette asks, “What steps are
social media platforms to identify and ban traffickers from their sites? Are they doing
enough? And if not, how can we get these social media folks to intensify their efforts in this
direction?” Is this a question for you Andrea perhaps?
ANDREA MARCHESANI: It’s a very good question, and I would like to know the answer. No,
am joking. You know, there are several cases where parents and civil society try to make
pressure, to push, to advocate, for several cases where they found the children have prob-
lems, or people were lured. And we tested a few times, several times. There are cases where
the social networks providers respond and help, and others don’t. So we cannot count on
“we hope this time is going be okay, or they are going to do something”. We should advocate
to have the national States, who have the responsibility for security of their citizens, because
you can be around the world on the Web, but you are still a citizen from your country. They
should present new legal instruments with social networks and to protect their citizens. So
there are, but are they sufficient? I don’t know. Because we see that there are cases where
they do something, other cases where nothing is done. And if I can, I also have to think about
how social networks providers control political information, cover information, they are very
prompt, they are very punctual, they own fake news on news or political problematic con-
tent. Why can’t they reinforce the commitment on these kind of situations? Thank you.
BRIAN ISELIN: Good. Thank you very much, Andrea. So we have another question. So this
one is about financial institutions. “They are very close-mouthed, about sharing how they
address money laundering related to human trafficking, which would help those working in
finance develop greater awareness. How can we get financial institutions to be more open to
sharing information in the anti trafficking effort?” Well, that’s a rich question. I’m going to
give that one to Shawn again, because I think that he’s probably been working with some
financial institutions in what he’s been doing. And I would also just indicate that there are
projects related to this, and I’ll put a note there in the column for the FAST-initiative, Finan-
cial Institutions Against Slavery and Trafficking. It was one of the ones I mentioned right at
the beginning of my intervention, where data about impact and outcomes are really, really
hard to get. They do seem to be collaborating. They have in the Netherlands, for example,
passed information on identified cases. My understanding is it hasn’t led to very much in
global terms with regard to prosecutions. But there are some initiatives and the FAST Initia-
tive maybe is the best example of that. So Shawn, over to you if you have anything more you
want to say about this.
SHAWN KOHL: Very rich question. Thanks, Brian, for the referral. Fantastic question. I think
there’s different ways that we can address that. One is to demand that through your legisla-
tors, those that represent you, that we actually require this, that this is an important issue
and that we require a proactive approach: mandatory reporting, development of tools to
identify these markers. There’s a study on IJM website (www.ijm.org) if you go to the website,
you can look at the study done jointly with the Philippines (Online Sexual Exploitation of Chil-
dren in the Philippines), and actually they were able to identify markers, countries, amounts
of money, how frequent, like for example is it every Saturday night? All these different mark-
ers that companies and financial institutions can actually come up with and utilise and devel-
op algorithms. They can develop algorithms and information to make a lot of money. They
can also do similar algorithms to actually begin to identify and uncover patterns of traffick-
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ing. So there are some of these things around the world that are developing, so we can
require that of our financial institutions, of social media platforms, but also through our leg-
islators and our governments. Then we say that this is an issue. Make it one of your policy
issues. Make it an advocacy issue. Bring it to light. People do not know very much about this
or how can we actually address it. Begin to talk to your legislators so they feel uncomfortable
when you ask them that question. They don’t have any answers for you. They will have their
aides or they will have their assistants go and find out that information. That’s what starts to
move things. That’s what creates awareness. So those are some of the ways. Better regula-
tion of the financial institutions within the EU, within Australia, within the US, are some other
mechanisms that could require them to share information. BRIAN ISELIN: Wrapping up now.
Michel, nod your head. Yes, thanks. So thanks very much to Andrea, Don Fortunato and
Shawn for your inputs tonight, for being on the panel. So just in wrapping up, the vast major-
ity of measures, including in the tech field, remain focused on the supply side of human traf-
ficking. And I would argue, and I hope you agree, that’s 99% of measures being on the sup-
ply side is rather insufficient balance. Let’s work to find a better blend of measures that
together, and only together, can reduce the actual incidence of trafficking. And just one last
point. If we can fly a drone on Mars, which we did last week, there’s nothing but focus and
will stopping us from better harnessing technology to identify and prosecute cases of traf-
ficking. Let me on that point cross to Michel for his closing.
MICHEL VEUTHEY: Thank you. Thank you very much Brian, Shawn and Andrea, and a tribute
also to Don Fortunato. Indeed at the end of this webinar I would like also to thank not only
the organisers, but also our web master Yves Reichenbach and my assistant Clara Iseppi. My
gratitude for all speakers for their clear and powerful statements and witnesses, and you can
find also in the “Handouts” documents which will be helpful for you to complement the inter-
ventions tonight. Since October 2020, we have recorded and subtitled in English and French,
10 webinars dealing with the role of religious orders in fighting human trafficking, advocacy
in fighting human trafficking, impact of human trafficking on health, healing and helping vic-
tims along the road to recovery, international prosecution of human trafficking, demand as
root cause for human trafficking, sex trafficking and prostitution, and the importance of
monitoring supply chain control and the role of consumers. I encourage you to visit
www.christusliberat.org website where you will find the videos of these 10 webinars, and a
treasure chest of best practices, as well as access to a free online course on human traffick-
ing for helpers. And actually those videos are subtitled in English, French and Spanish. And
we shall continue our webinars, first with two webinars in French with English subtitles on
the 11th and 18th of May. So the next two Tuesdays. And for French speaking people, I
would like to stress that those two webinars will be first dealing with legal issues, and the
second with assistance to human trafficking. So thank you very much to everyone and I hope
to see you soon, as soon as next Tuesday. Have a good evening or a good day, and goodbye
now. Thank you.
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