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MICHAEL WALZER
story. One of his examples frightens me, since it extends his argument from
principle to practice: he claims that just soldiers, who find themselves in a
tough spot, can kill their prisoners, while unjust soldiers cannot do that. But
surely this is the kind of decision that we don’t want, shouldn’t want, soldiers
to make on the basis of their own sense of their own righteousness. Denying
them the right to do that is another morally necessary ‘concession’ to our
moral infirmity.
The distinction that McMahan introduces within the category of ‘comba-
tants’ is intended to restrict what (some) soldiers can rightly do on the
battlefield. I don’t think that Asa Kasher’s distinctions serve the same
purpose; I am not sure they serve any immediate or practical purpose. He
marks out fourteen types of involvement in terrorism, for example, and
the list seems entirely plausible. But I don’t see how our knowledge of the
fourteen types could possibly serve to regulate the conduct of anti-terrorist
forces. He insists that the ‘distinctions can be reflected in practical methods of
counter-terrorism’ but offers no examples. To me, the list seems more
appropriate to the courtroom than to police work or military activity in the
field.
But Kasher’s argument about the importance of ‘respecting the human
dignity of persons in military uniform’ (which, he says, standard just war
theory doesn’t do) is clearly intended to allow greater latitude to soldiers in
combat, whenever civilians are at risk. Kasher and I agree on the central
importance of this question: how much risk must soldiers bear in order to
reduce the risk they impose on enemy civilians? But the conversation he
describes between the state and one of its soldiers makes the question too
simple for it seems that the soldier must accept a very great risk or none at
all. My own conversations with soldiers and former soldiers suggest that
many of them are willing to accept some risk, and that seems right, even if we
cannot easily say how much. Does it matter if the soldier is fighting justly or
unjustly? Perhaps McMahan would say that it does. Is there a difference if the
soldier is a volunteer or a conscript? Perhaps Kasher would say that there is.
But I am inclined to the view that the soldier’s responsibility derives from the
weapon in his hands; it doesn’t matter how it got there or whether it is serving
a righteous cause. I agree strongly with Kasher, however, that the first
responsibility for civilian deaths in the circumstances he imagines lies with the
terrorists who use civilians as shields. This use of civilians certainly reduces
the risks that soldiers are bound to accept but not to zero.
I was especially pleased to read Barrie Paskins’s essay and to find myself
criticized for my ‘non-statist’ position; most of my critics have made exactly
the opposite charge. I think that Paskins gets me right, and I find his
arguments both provoking and, in part, persuasive. His essay points toward
what might be called ‘articles of reconciliation’ between realism and just war
theory, and I hope that I will have occasion in the future to explore what form
those articles might take.
Here I will respond only to one point, where Paskins directly asks for a
response on the treatment of prisoners of war and of captured (suspected)
terrorists. It seems to be the position of the US government (at this moment,
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but I hope not forever) that the latter group is entitled neither to the
‘benevolent quarantine’ owed to PoWs nor to the protections owed to
accused criminals. Captured (suspected) terrorists seem to have no rights
whatsoever, which is not a morally acceptable human condition. But I would
be willing to listen to realist arguments about which status, prisoner of war or
accused criminal, is preferable. Or perhaps we need to invent a new status,
with its own standard protections.
On the interrogation of prisoners, I would strongly endorse the position of
the Gardiner Report, as Paskins describes it. There are hypothetical cases,
and perhaps actual cases, in which the ‘rough treatment’ of a prisoner might
save many lives, but I would not try to draft a rule to accommodate those
cases for the very good prudential and moral reasons that Paskins provides.
Another deep agreement.
Jean Elshtain and I have identical views on the crime of terrorism and the
need to oppose it with moral firmness, sustained political commitment, and
police or military force. We seem to disagree about exactly when a terrorist
regime can be militarily attacked and overthrown. But neither of us would
support an attack to end the ordinary brutality of an authoritarian state that
was just like all the other authoritarian states. And both of us favor a strong
military response to mass murder and ethnic cleansing. So the range of our
disagreement is narrow. I concede that just as a preemptive response to
aggression is justified, so would a preemptive response to massacre be
justified. But that assumes that we know a massacre is being planned and
organized, and that it will begin very soon. Against more distant and
speculative threats, where our knowledge is less certain, I am inclined to think
that we can respond only with political and economic pressure and then with
force short of war. We can, of course, work politically to ‘change’ regimes
likely to act murderously long before the murders begin indeed, at any time.
But war is and should be, as Elshtain agrees, very hard to justify.