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MASSEY FERGUSON SERVICE BULLETIN


Telephone: 024 76694400 Fax: 024 76852495 Registered No. 509133 England

International Bulletin No: TRAC 07/07


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Section: 3 Engine - 136

Issue: 9

Date: May 2014

ALL MF ENGINES
POWER/RESPOSIVENESS COMPLAINT CHECKING PROCESS

Issue 9 : Additional PTO hp curves added

Advice
The following information should be used to investigate a complaint related to
engine power/responsiveness. The investigation process follows a logical sequence
to eliminate possible causes before testing on a Dynamometer.
Firstly ensure that the complaint it is not a problem of misunderstanding between
the different ways of quoting engine horsepower used by manufacturers. Detailed
below are brief descriptions of the methods used:
ISO: Power test done at the flywheel: fan, alternator and starter motor not fitted.
DIN: Power test done at the flywheel: flywheel, alternator and starter motor fitted
and the fan fully engaged.
ECE R24: Power test done at the flywheel; flywheel, alternator and starter motor
fitted. Fan fitted but not engaged.
OECD: Power test at power take off on a complete tractor (full engine, transmission
and hydraulics)
NOTE: Enquire about the customer’s purchase criteria, how was the hp quoted,
was it in ISO, DIN, ECE R24 or OECD. What are the implements hp requirements,
generally implement manufacturers quote OECD hp figures.
This chart shows the differences in hp depending on the test procedure used.

ISO ECE R24 DIN OECD


Engine hp at 2000 rpm 315 305 300 279

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If there is a genuine problem, the following checks and actions could be carried out
by the customer.
• Air filter: It must be clean with no dust blocking the filter to ensure a good mix
of fuel and air to give correct burning.
• Fuel filters: Fuel filter must be clean to allow a normal flow, if fuel flow is
restricted it will cause low power, and on electronic engines error codes will
be present.
• Water separator: Ensure no water is present in the fuel. Water in the fuel can
cause serious damaged to the high pressure pump and will cause low power.
Error codes will be present.
• Fuel feed pipes leaking: When a pipe leak is present, the fuel system can
loose fuel or suck air through this leak which can damage the high pressure
pump, injectors and reduce power. The air in an injector can explode and
cause damage, reducing the power. It only needs one small explosion to
damage an injector.
• Fuel feed/return hoses squeezed or pinched: If a hose is blocked by debris or
pinched somewhere between fuel tank and fuel filter, this can give low power
and create error codes on electronic engine.
• Fuel tank breather: Make sure that the breather is not blocked.
• Air inlet hose between turbo and air inlet manifold: Ensure that all pipes and
hoses are at the right place and the clamps are tight to avoid loss of pressure
in the system.
If the items above are reported to be correct and further investigation is necessary,
the above items must be rechecked by the Dealer and then the following carried
out.
To save time during the investigation record the following values:
• Fuel temperature: This value can be seen on Wintest for tractors with
electronic engine; on mechanical engines it would be benifical to have the fuel
temperature (fit sensor before the high pressure pump) but it is not mandatory
• Air inlet temperature: This value can be seen with Wintest on electronic
engines, on mechanical engines the temperature can be taken on the inlet
manifold.
• Ambient air temperature: This ambient temperature value is mandatory.
• Fan speed: It is really important to take this value, because a fan fully engaged
can take up to 13 KW.
To obtain this value a multi-meter that can read frequency is required. To convert
frequency to revolutions per minute, multiply the value on the multi-meter by 60,
the frequency is equal to the number of pulses per second.
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To measure the number of pulses use a normal speed sensor from a Dynashift,
Dyna4 or Dyna-6 gearbox.
Make a bracket to fit the sensor on the engine block and put a metal clip on a blade
of the fan. The sensor must be set to 5 mm from the fan.

A suitable metal clip can be found under the emblem on the steering wheel. Do not
forget to put it back after the test.
NOTE: Ensure the clip is fitted securely, it could cause personal injury or damage to
the radiator if it becomes detached.
• Fuel feed pressure and fuel flow
NOTE: Ensure the fuel system is not under pressure before carrying out these
checks according to the workshop manual and the engine fitted on the tractor.
• Fuel feed pressure: Check the fuel pressure after the fuel lift pump, with a
digital or numeric gauge. Fit the gauge as close as possible to the fuel
injection pump (FIP) to avoid load losses.
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Fuel Tank

Fuel flow: The consumption figure should be compared with the theoretical
consumption figures given in Wintest for electronic engines. For non-electronic
engines, send the actual fuel consumption figures to your normal service contact.
• To obtain the engine fuel consumption use two fuel flow meters. Fit one fuel
flow meter on the fuel feed line after the filter (ref 1). The other fuel flow
meter (ref 2) must be fitted on the return line at the junction of injectors and
fuel injection pump, before the fuel filter or tank return depending on the
engine fitted.

Fuel Tank

Two fuel flow meters are needed, one for the feed and one for the return, as the
engine is not consuming all the fuel that the pump delivers, so another fuel flow
meter is needed on the return line.
If a fuel flow meter is not available, use a suitable container, with graduations, take
the fuel from the container via the fuel lift pump and make the return directly to the
container.
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To calculate the flow, make a note of the fuel level in the container and with the
engine running, check the volume one minute later. Multiply the volume in litres by
60 which will give the flow in litre/hour.
• Power test: Connect the tractor to the Dynamometer, run the tractor and
warm up the transmission to 50 to 60°C to avoid losses with cold oil.
NOTE: Before carrying out any tests, check the settings of the Dynamometer to
ensure that it is correct for the tractor being tested to avoid incorrect results from
the test.
After all the tests have been carried out, the following should be used to
understand the results and actions that could be taken.
• Transmission: Check that the hydraulic pump is not under pressure all the time
or if there is an abnormal load of the transmission on the engine (low revs not
able to reach the full engine speed, etc.)
• Low fuel consumption: If the fuel consumption is lower than the value given in
Wintest for the electronic engines, or advice given by your normal service
contact for mechanical engines, the problem could be caused by:
- Fuel injection pump worn, but an error code should be present.
- Injector worn
• Fuel consumption correct, but still low power: Check the valve clearance
according to the workshop manual and the engine type – incorrectly set valve
clearances can reduce the power of an engine if the exhaust or inlet valves
cannot evacuate enough gases or bring in sufficient air.
• Fuel consumption and valve clearance correct, but still low power: Check the
turbocharger pressure. This was not checked earlier, because if there is not
the correct amount of fuel, or if the valve clearances are not correct, there will
not be sufficient gases going through the outlet and this will not give enough
speed to the turbocharger and the air pressure in the system would be low.
Visually check the turbocharger and boost pipe connections and measure the
wastegate opening pressure. If everything checks out correctly it is unlikely to
be a turbocharger problem.
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In conclusion:
• Firstly get the customer to carry out the checks given at the beginning of the
bulletin.
• If there is still a problem, re-check and verify the checks carried out by the
customer.
• Carry out the remaining tests, including fuel pressure and fuel consumption
tests, then a power test and complete the report form (at the end of the
bulletin), send it to your normal service contact.
Finally, in our experience the following are the main causes of power/
responsiveness complaints:
1. Fuel feed and return hoses badly routed or pinched
2. Water in the fuel causing failure of FIP and injectors
3. Injectors damaged by water in fuel
4. Valve clearances incorrectly set
5. Fuel injection pump damage by air
It is really unusual to have a problem with the ECM or Fuel injection pump.
OECD PTO hp curves for the tractors below are given on the following pages.
The ambient temperature for the tests is 25 degrees C.
NOTE: The curve figures given are -2/ +2 %
5420 Tier 3 engine 5425 Tier 3 engine 5430 Tier 3 engine
5435 Tier 3 engine 5440 Tier 3 engine 5445 Tier 3 engine
5450 Tier 3 engine 5455 Tier 3 engine 5460 Tier 3 engine
5465 Tier 3 engine 5470 Tier 3 engine 5475 Tier 3 engine
5480 Tier 3 engine 5608 5610
5611 5612 5613
6445 Tier 3 engine 6455 Tier 3 engine
6460 Tier 3 engine 6465/ 7465 Tier 3 engine 6470 Tier 3 engine
6475/ 7475 Tier 3 engine 6480/ 7480 Tier 3 engine 6485/ 7485 Tier 3 engine
6490/ 7490 Tier 3 engine 6495/ 7495 Tier 3 engine 6497 Tier 3 engine
6499 Tier 3 engine
6612 dyna 4 engine 6613 dyna 4 engine 6614 dyna 6 engine
6614 dyna VT engine 6615 dyna 4 engine 6615 dyna 6 engine
6615 dyna VT engine 6616 dyna 6/VT engine
7614 dyna 4 engine 7615 dyna 4 engine 7615 dyna 6 engine
7616 dyna 6 engine 7618 dyna 6 engine 7619 dyna 6 engine
7620 dyna 6 engine 7622 dyna 6 engine 7624 dyna 6 engine
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7615 dyna VT engine 7616 dyna VT engine 7618 dyna VT engine


7619 dyna VT engine 7620 dyna VT engine 7622 dyna VT engine
7624 dyna VT engine
8650 Tier 3 engine 8660 Tier 3 engine 8670 Tier 3 engine
8680 Tier 3 engine 8690 Tier 3 engine
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).

The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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The figures in the graph are only Power Take Off figures, it is mandatory to have the
hand brake ON to measure it, The EPM figures is a coupling of the Power Take Off
power and the power to the wheels, so it cannot be measured on the Power Take
Off test bench (to check EPM you will need PTO test bench and roller test bench).
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Tractor model Serial number


Number of hours Hydraulic type

AGCO POWER TEST - PTO 1000 RPM


Engine PTO Power Power Consumption Fuel Ambient Inlet Fan
speed rpm KW HP litre/hour temp temp temp speed
rpm
2200
2100
2050
2000
1950
1900
1850
1800
1750
1700
1600
1500
1400
1300
1200
Settings for all tractors:
• Powershift in D ratio for Dynashift, Dyna-6, Speedshift 30kph.
• Powershift in C ratio for Speedshift 40kph.
• Powershuttle lever in neutral
• Air conditioning OFF
• Cab fan OFF
• Lights OFF
• No external hydraulic request or consumption
• Setting for ratio between engine and PTO:
- CVT engine/PTO ratio = 2.03 (985 PTO rpm for 2000 engine rpm)
- GPA 20 and GPA 40 engine/PTO ratio = 2 (1000/2000)(Tier2)
- GPA 30 engine/PTO ratio = 2.09 (957/2000)
- GPA 20 < 135 Din hp engine/ PTO ratio = 2 (Tier 3)
- GPA 20 135 – 165 Din hp engine/PTO ratio = 2.03 (Tier 3)
- GPA 40 < 220 Din hp engine/ PTO ratio = 2 (Tier 3
- GPA 40 220 - 250 Din hp engine/PTO ratio = 1.93 (Tier 3)
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Yours faithfully

Maxime Poulizac
Technical Services Manager
This bulletin is issued for technical information purposes only and and does not
constitute authority for warranty claims
Source of the bulletin: MP
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