477th Knowledge Seekers Workshop March 16 2023

第 477 次求知者研讨会 2023 年 3 月 16 日

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K- Yes, good morning good day to you as usual wherever and whenever you listen to
these series of Knowledge Seekers Workshops (KSW) of the Keshe Foundation SSI, we
welcome you back. As Rick said, to share knowledge and that's the whole purpose of
these teachings.
是的，早上好，像往常一样祝你一天好，无论何时何地，你都可以收听 KESHE 基金会 SSI 的
知识探索者系列研讨会（KSW），我们欢迎你回来。正如里克所说，分享知识，这就是这些
教导的全部目的。

We're the ones who know, and they share, and the ones who listen might add their
knowledge to it, to share with the others the more. In today's teaching we go back to
some of our old tradition, (:10). making a few announcements in the beginning and then
going back into teaching. First of all I would like to give the best regards for the Iranian
New Year on Tuesday, as we'll not meet until after the New Year. It's the beginning of
Spring and a new beginning. I give my best wishes to all the Iranians and those who
believe in the path of Mitra.
我们是知道的人，他们分享，而倾听的人可能会增加他们的知识，与他人分享更多。在今天
的教学中，我们回到一些古老的传统，（：10）。一开始做了一些声明，然后又回到教学
中。首先，我要向周二的伊朗新年致以最诚挚的问候，因为我们要到新年之后才能见面。这
是春天的开始，也是新的开始。我向所有伊朗人和那些相信米特拉之路的人致以最美好的祝
愿。

We made some announcements last week because of shortage of time, in the short
teaching session. Some "bundles for Easter" which have been made available. And we
have made announcements regarding the meeting with the world leaders on the 24th next
Friday. Join with us in that, that we can bring the change. We have some ambassadors,
and a couple of presidents will be on line of us, if they want to join themselves, or they
stay on the VPN on the background in different channels, unless they send a message
they want to come in, we keep the same.
上周，由于时间紧张，我们在短暂的教学环节中发布了一些通知。已经提供了一些“复活节
套餐”。我们已经就下周五 24 日与世界领导人的会晤发表了声明。加入我们，我们可以带
来改变。我们有一些大使，还有几位总统会在我们的线上，如果他们想加入，或者他们在不
同的频道上留在后台的 VPN 上，除非他们发出他们想加入的信息，我们保持不变。

We have done a session 2 Sundays ago regarding eating, dining with the Creator. And
one of the last week, and the week before we provided the food, our Knowledge Seekers
(KS), then they brought their food. We would like to meet with you on Sunday at 12
o'clock, those of you who participated in this. And understand why and how this
happened, what emotions, what feelings, what has brought you, and that process, how we
can bring, (:12). for you to learn to eat from the table of the Universe (U).
我们在两个星期天前做了一个关于与造物主一起吃饭的会议。最后一周，在我们提供食物的
前一周，我们的知识寻求者（KS），然后他们带来了他们的食物。我们想在周日 12 点与你
们见面，你们中的那些人参加了这次会议。并理解为什么和如何发生，什么情绪，什么感
觉，什么带给你，以及这个过程，我们如何能带来，（：12）。让你学会从宇宙（U）的餐
桌上吃饭。

When you go to space you do not have "chicken and chips" or Sushi or the rest of it. But
somewhere down the line we need energies. What did you learn? How do you gather
energies from the U? How do you feed yourself? Part of this will be given to you through
the Soul this Sunday, and part of it you will learn to do.
当你去太空时，你没有“鸡肉和薯条”或寿司或其他东西。但在某个地方，我们需要能量。
你学到了什么？你如何从美国收集能量？你怎么养活自己？其中一部分将在本周日通过灵魂
给予你，一部分你将学会去做。

Some of you have already had a profound understanding of the process, and become wise
to look beyond. And you understand one thing very simple, when you are on a condition
of the physicality (P) to be connected to that physical condition, you need to have a
connection. Which means to give and take. It does not mean to kill another object, or
你们中的一些人已经对这个过程有了深刻的理解，并变得明智地展望未来。你明白一件很简
单的事情，当你处于一个物理状态（P）时，要连接到那个物理状态，你需要有一个连接。
意思是给予和索取。它并不意味着杀死另一个对象，或者
destroy it for it to take, but live in harmony with the fields of that environment. In a way,
we learn to live with the energies of the environment, and not to destroy to gain energies
of the environment.
摧毁它，让它拿走，但与那个环境的能量场和谐相处。在某种程度上，我们学会与环境的
能量共存，而不是为了获得环境的能量而破坏环境。

In that process we learned a lot more. We learned that the life is without pain, without
illness, because the body balances itself. In that process we become much more wiser in
every aspects of knowledge of Creation.
在这个过程中，我们学到了更多。我们了解到，生命没有痛苦，没有疾病，因为身体自我平
衡。在这个过程中，我们在造物知识的各个方面都变得更加智慧。

Then on April, we have put addiction (Session). It will be good to have every KS to come
into that session, (:14). because it's on the back of what we did 2 weeks ago. Food is an
addiction. Killing to survive in the name of wheat, rice, lamb, chicken is an addiction. How can we
get rid of this addiction, and tap into the Universal Energy?
然后在四月，我们把上瘾（会议）。如果每个 KS 都能参加会议，那就太好了，（：14）。
因为这是在我们两周前做的事情的基础上。食物是一种瘾。以小麦、大米、羊肉、鸡肉的名
义杀人以求生存是一种嗜好。我们如何才能摆脱这种瘾，并利用宇宙能量？

The addiction is not as most of you think, even though some of you will see that, with
alcohol and drugs. Killing is an addiction. What you love is an addiction. And how do we
handle it? We call it hunger and we kill for it. We go hunting for it? When we talk about
addiction it's beyond understanding of physicality. Abuse is addiction, when you go from
one condition one situation to another, and meet the same condition, there is an addiction,
because that condition gives you certain energies, certain impact, certain emotions.
上瘾并不像你们大多数人想的那样，尽管你们中的一些人会看到，酒精和毒品。杀人是一种
瘾。你爱的是一种瘾。我们该怎么处理？我们称之为饥饿，我们为之杀戮。我们去找它？当
我们谈论上瘾时，它超越了对肉体的理解。滥用就是上瘾，当你从一种情况到另一种情况，
遇到同样的情况，就会上瘾，因为这种情况会给你一定的能量，一定的影响，一定的情绪。

Then you understand how through the addiction, we can even stop what we call bullying. How our
children are addicted to it. Power, possessing power. After meeting the world
leaders next week, is an addiction. And this is the purpose of the addiction session on, in
April. We are not going to give you a solution for cocaine or alcohol, we're going to
elevate the Soul of the Man (STM) to understand not to be shackled, with the repetition,
to a need to be connected. (:16).
然后你就会明白，通过上瘾，我们甚至可以停止我们所谓的欺凌。我们的孩子是如何沉迷其
中的。权力，拥有权力。在下周会见世界领导人之后，这是一种瘾。这就是四月份戒瘾会议
的目的。我们不会给你可卡因或酒精的解决方案，我们要提升人的灵魂（STM），让他明白
不要被束缚，通过重复，需要被连接。(: 16).

Because what is the biggest frame of the addiction, which many of you have not even
come to understand, is a flight becomes an addiction. Separation of the Soul from the
physicality is a worst addiction, that actually touches many, many creatures of the
Creator. If you get in the habit of going, traveling. As we say, you get an "itchy foot." What
happens when you get an "itchy" Soul? And then what's the next step?
因为上瘾的最大框架是什么，你们中的许多人甚至还没有理解，是飞行变成了上瘾。灵
魂与肉体的分离是一种最糟糕的上瘾，它实际上触及了造物主的许多许多造物。如果你
养成了旅行的习惯。就像我们说的，你会“脚痒”。当你的灵魂“发痒”时会发生什
么？然后下一步是什么？

The addiction is how we develop this process. All our teachings is to bring man to be part
of the Universal Community. All our teachings is targeted for man to ？? leave the village
of Earth. And so when we talk about these things, we make it two ways one for the
physicality, and one for the energy pack we call the STM. What is next?
上瘾是我们发展这一过程的方式。我们所有的教导都是为了让人类成为宇宙共同体的一部
分。我们所有的教导都是针对人类的。?离开地球村。所以当我们谈论这些事情时，我们有
两种方式，一种是肉体，另一种是我们称之为 STM 的能量包。接下来是什么？

We see how energies coming together in combination of the carbon (C), hydrogen (H),
nitrogen (N), or oxygen (O), which is part of the "Mr. COHN," in a stronger fields
become addiction to cocaine. Just go and look at the chemical, chemistry binding of
addiction materials. Even sex has an addiction chain. You can see it. How many carbons
it carries. How many H it carries. Then now, change the same C and H into the dimension
of the carbon 14 (C14), and Deuterium. (:18).
我们看到了碳（C）、氢（H）、氮（N）或氧（O）的能量是如何结合在一起的，这是“科恩
先生”的一部分，在一个更强的领域中变成了可卡因成瘾。只要去看看成瘾材料的化学，化
学结合。即使是性也有成瘾链。你可以看到它。它携带了多少碳。它携带了多少个 H.然后
现在，将相同的 C 和 H 改变为碳 14（C14）和氘的尺寸。(: 18).
In the last week's teaching, we touched on the balances, on the equality, on similarity
between these. But I'm sure many of you did not come to comprehend what's the next
step. You have the combination of what we call, C, H, O, and N. If we do it properly and
understand it, it's actually the H is the back, you have the C, which links created out of it,
you have the O, which is the interaction of the two, depending on the dimension, and N is
your energy collector. But you talk about C12 in the dimension of the physicality. You
have a H in that dimension (D). These two (O & N) are dictated by position.
在上周的教学中，我们谈到了平衡，平等，以及它们之间的相似性。但我相信你们中的许
多人并没有理解下一步是什么。你有我们所说的 C，H，O 和 N 的组合，如果我们正确地理
解它，它实际上是 H 是背面，你有 C，它是由它产生的链接，你有 O，它是两者的相互作
用，取决于维度，N 是你的能量收集器。但是你在肉体的维度上谈论 C12。你在那个维度
（D）上有一个 H.这两个（O&N）由位置决定。

But go back to understanding the process of the Creation in the dimension of the
Universe. You have now very simply, a parallel, you have deuterium (H2) you have C14. What
are the other two (for the O & N)?
但回到理解宇宙维度中的创造过程。你现在有一个很简单的平行线，你有氘（H2），你有
C14。另外两个是什么（对于 O&N）？

When we speak about Universal magnetic fields common denominator we always speak
about the Deuterium (:20). not the H. In an energetic plasmatic condition of what you
call, the H with a combination of the C on planet Earth creates H2O. From plasmatic
point of view, which man has never considered, this is an odor (the H2O), that's why it
can become a vapor, it can stay in liquid condition. Because when we speak about water,
as man does, we have one thing, you have a central gravitational point of the Earth,
which creates the gravity. This creates a field call it, atmosphere. In this atmosphere, the
combination of the H & O creates liquid. Without this central gravity and containment of
the magnetic fields. This will not happen (creation of water). Otherwise we would have
had water all over the Universe.
当我们谈论宇宙磁场的公分母时，我们总是谈论氘（：20）。不是 H.在你所说的高能等离
子体条件下，地球上的 H 和 C 的结合产生了 H2O.从等离子体的角度来看，人类从来没有考
虑过，这是一种气味（H2O），这就是为什么它可以变成蒸汽，它可以保持在液体状态。
因为当我们谈论水的时候，就像人类一样，我们有一件事，你有一个地球的中心引力点，
它产生了重力。这创造了一个叫做“大气”的领域。在这种气氛中，H&O 的结合产生了液
体。没有这个中心引力和磁场的约束。这不会发生（水的产生）。否则整个宇宙都会有
水。

It's the same thing as we always taught you, the minute you put something in your mouth,
this is the matter state in the dimension of here (Earth's atmosphere). Once it enters the
mouth of the man, and the intestine, this is another gravitational magnetic field. (:22). The water
does not behave as water, as outside. Now behaves as a plasma. So, the body
of the man creates his own magnetic gravitational field and uses the same fields of the
water. Where in the dimensional gravitational magnetic fields of the Earth, the condition
creates liquidity, you're liquid, you're water.
这和我们一直教你的一样，当你把东西放进嘴里的那一刻，这就是这里（地球大气层）维
度中的物质状态。一旦它进入人类的口腔和肠道，这就是另一个重力磁场。(: 22).水的
行为不像外面的水。现在表现为等离子体。所以，人的身体创造了自己的磁引力场，并使
用相同的水力场。在地球的空间重力磁场中，条件创造了流动性，你是液体，你是水。

So, when we look in the dimension of the Creation, we have to see what combination,
what state of matter manifestation comes into. How come the combination of COHN
gives us life, gives us amino acid (AA), but when we mix other 4 chemicals, we have no
life. It's a solid. You make alloys you put Zinc, nickel, copper, everything else in it. Dimension of
intelligence, how this combination leads to intelligence and life is what will
be concerned of your Soul in the dimension of physicality of the Man in the Space.
所以，当我们观察造物的维度时，我们必须看到什么组合，物质显现的什么状态。为什么
科恩的组合给了我们生命，给了我们氨基酸（AA），但当我们混合其他 4 种化学物质时，
我们就没有生命了。它是固体的。你制造合金，你把锌，镍，铜，所有的东西都放进去。
智慧的维度，这种结合如何导致智慧和生命，是你的灵魂在空间中的人的肉体维度中所关
心的。

This is why we explain once the man understands the principle of Creation, he has to
understand where his dynamism (is), that Creation can leads to intelligence, creation of
emotion, creation of life.
这就是为什么我们解释说，一旦人理解了创造的原理，他就必须理解他的活力在哪里，
创造可以导致智慧，创造情感，创造生命。

What we call AA, is the fundamental base for Creation of life intelligence, not just
protein as meat, or protein as life. (:24). AA on its own has no intelligence. It's the liquid
dynamic structure in interaction with calcium, in interaction with other elements, in
interaction with Zinc, creates physicality, creates emotion, it creates brain cells.
我们所说的 AA，是创造生命智慧的根本基础，而不仅仅是作为肉类的蛋白质，或者作为生
命的蛋白质。(: 24).AA 本身没有智能。它是液体的动态结构，与钙相互作用，与其他元
素相互作用，与锌相互作用，创造了肉体，创造了情感，它创造了脑细胞。
Now, we come to understand how man has to understand his position in the Universe. It
all depends how we enter this magnetic field (of Earth's atmosphere). Be the Earth, be it
the dimension in the Universe, or be it across within the satellites of planetary galaxies,
or universes. Not all the stars, not all the planetary systems are within galaxies. In the
Universe, what we see, where galaxies are, in between we see matter state, we see stars
which don't belong to any galaxies. But are created from the interaction of the fields of
the galaxies, or Universal fields.
现在，我们开始理解人类如何理解他在宇宙中的位置。这完全取决于我们如何进入（地
球大气层的）磁场。是地球，是宇宙中的维度，或者是跨越行星星系或宇宙的卫星。不
是所有的恒星，不是所有的行星系统都在星系内。在宇宙中，我们看到了什么，星系在
哪里，在我们看到的物质状态之间，我们看到了不属于任何星系的恒星。而是由星系场
或宇宙场的相互作用产生的。

The same is you change the galaxy to universes. In the Unicose amongst and between the
universes, are life, existences. This is MaGrav positioning. (:26). This is where the two
universes space each other to live. And in that position, there is life. As there is life
between the galaxies. As there is life, on Earth in different structures, we have the fish,
we have the man who lives on it, and we have the creatures above us, which now we have
observed. That we have videoed them. We have recorded them through the flights we
have, we see live above us.
就像你把星系变成宇宙一样。在宇宙之中和宇宙之间的独一里，是生命，是存在。这是
马格拉夫的定位。(: 26).这是两个宇宙相互间隔的地方。在那个位置上，有生命。因为
星系之间有生命。因为有生命，在地球上有不同的结构，我们有鱼，我们有生活在上面
的人，我们还有我们上面的生物，现在我们已经观察到了。我们已经录下了他们。我们
通过飞行记录了它们，我们看到了我们头顶上的现场直播。

So, there is a life beyond that. There is a life between the Earth and the Moon. There is a
life structure between the Earth and the Sun. As there is life between our Solar System
and a neighboring ？? solar system. It comes in natural process of interaction of the fields.
所以，在那之外还有一种生活。地球和月球之间有生命。地球和太阳之间有一个生命结
构。因为在我们的太阳系和一个邻居之间有生命存在。?太阳系。它来自于场相互作用的
自然过程。

The way deuterium as a H travels, and is a structure becomes C creates this dimension of
magnetic fields. It creates that what we call, "luminous night" (how we see start at night)
we see through. Then we understand there is nowhere in the Universe, that there is no
life, there is no energy. What we call energy to be magnetic fields in motion. Life is not
exclusivity of this planet, never been, never shall be, and anyone who claims it, is fooling
himself.
氘作为氢的运动方式，以及结构变成碳的方式，产生了这种维度的磁场。它创造了我们
所说的“夜光之夜”（我们如何在夜晚看到），我们看穿了。然后我们了解到宇宙中没
有任何地方，没有生命，没有能量。我们所说的能量是运动中的磁场。生命不是这个星
球的专属，从来没有，也永远不会有，任何声称拥有生命的人，都是在自欺欺人。

So we have to learn that we had the cat, the dog, the sheep, ?? the tree here, we learned
how to live with them, how are we going to live with the life beyond the surface of Earth,
beyond the atmospheric condition of the Earth. Or within the atmospheric condition of
the Earth? (:28).
所以我们必须知道我们有猫，狗，羊，？这里的树，我们学会了如何与它们一起生活，
我们将如何与地球表面以外的生命一起生活，超越地球的大气条件。还是在地球的大气
条件下？(: 28).

We always look down because we thought we are on the top, we are superior. We are a
bottom eaters. As I always said, as NASA has shown us we are living on this surface, and
they have shown us there is a life above us, but falls down we eat, and we call it energy
packs. We see them moving. We have recorded them. They have intelligence, they decide
to repeat the same cycle of motion in the same area.
我们总是往下看，因为我们认为我们在顶端，我们是优越的。我们是吃得最少的人。正
如我一直所说的，美国宇航局向我们展示了我们生活在这个表面上，他们向我们展示了
我们上面有一个生命，但我们吃掉了它，我们称之为能量包。我们看到他们在移动。我
们已经记录下来了。他们有智慧，他们决定在同一区域重复同样的运动周期。

In a way we are all "cuts," if you know what "cut" means. The cut in English language,
the fish, is a bottom eater eats anything. And man in effect is a cut, from what comes up
from the above in the gaseous level to the solid level. It's like when you throw food
overboard in an ocean, some is eaten by the fish on the top, the rest goes to the bottom,
and the bottom eaters eat it. It could be 10 meters, could be 10,000 meters to the bottom. And we
are at the bottom of the gaseous level.
在某种程度上，我们都是“削减”，如果你知道“削减”是什么意思。切在英语中，
鱼，是一个吃任何东西的人。而人实际上是一种切割，从气体层面上升到固体层面。这
就像你把食物扔到海里，一些被上面的鱼吃掉了，剩下的去了水底，水底的人吃掉了。
可能是 10 米，也可能是 10000 米。我们在气体水平的底部。
We have never considered life above us because we always looked down, because this
gave us a confidence of superiority. We only look up when we ask for the Creator,
whether the point of weakness, or we demand something. But if you look deep enough, if
man creates "night vision glasses" as "energy vision glasses," we'll see life above us. We
are amongst other fishes. Are they more intelligent then us, who have taken no shape of
physicality (P), (:30). but the interaction of the plasma fields show us. Or do they have
intelligence that does not match us. It is very much like we see the fish and others in the
oceans.
我们从来没有考虑过生活在我们之上，因为我们总是往下看，因为这给了我们一种优越的
自信。只有当我们要求造物主时，我们才会抬头仰望，不管是弱点，还是我们要求的东
西。但如果你看得足够深，如果人类创造了“夜视眼镜”作为“能量视觉眼镜”，我们就
会看到我们头顶上的生命。我们和其他鱼在一起。他们是不是比我们更聪明，我们没有身
体的形状（P），（：30）。但是等离子体场的相互作用告诉我们。或者他们的智力与我们
不匹配。这很像我们在海洋中看到的鱼和其他生物。

What is the outcome? What is, and how is it going to be? Can we even get to that point to
live in an atmosphere of our own environment? Can we become one of them? Can we
lose the physicality as a bone structure and become a plasma to be free floating around
this planet, which we haven't even mastered of it? We always ignored it, because it shows
the lack of our understanding of our own environment.
结果是什么？它是什么，它将如何？我们甚至可以达到这一点，生活在我们自己的环境氛
围中吗？我们能成为其中一员吗？我们能不能失去作为骨骼结构的肉体，变成一个等离子
体，在这个我们甚至还没有掌握的星球上自由漂浮？我们总是忽视它，因为它显示了我们
对自己所处的环境缺乏了解。

Becoming a Man of Universe is not an easy job. It's like a boy wanting to become a man. My
grandfather used to tell me, going to Europe is not learning to urinate against a wall
standing up. Because in Islamic world, you cannot urinate, when you stand, you have to
sit that you don't splash it. And standing to do it, is a sign of becoming Westernized. By
learning from the West does not, that you become more human. You lose your humanity.
成为宇宙中的人不是一件容易的事。就像一个男孩想要成为一个男人。我的祖父曾经告诉
我，去欧洲不是学会站着对着墙撒尿。因为在伊斯兰世界，你不能小便，当你站着的时
候，你必须坐着，这样你才不会溅到它。而站着做这件事，是变得西化的标志。通过向西
方学习，你不会变得更人性化。你失去了人性。

Now you understand, but becoming a man of space does not become, gives us the right. And to
think, that now become a space and the others are looking at us, because we found
out how to do it with the Soul, (:32). than before they did. Then from there they learned
from us. Then become arrogant, and we fall in the same fallacy of you're the king of the
Creation, God forbids. We killed two animals, we've called ourselves the king of, the
king of the land. Now if we learn and we've been given the gift of the knowledge of the,
what we call, transmutation energy transfers of the Universe, would man in the future call
himself the king of the Universe?
现在你明白了，但成为一个人的空间并没有成为，给我们的权利。想想看，现在变成了一
个空间，其他人都在看着我们，因为我们发现了如何用灵魂来做这件事，（：32）。比以
前更好。然后从那里他们向我们学习。然后变得傲慢，我们陷入同样的谬论，你是造物之
王，上帝禁止。我们杀了两只动物，我们称自己为土地之王。现在，如果我们学习，我们
已经被赋予了知识的天赋，我们称之为宇宙的嬗变能量转移，未来的人类会称自己为宇宙
之王吗？

Man is fallible, man will destroy his physicality, but cannot destroy his Soul. Then, in the
process of the Creation, all we look for, all we sit for, is how and where this combination
of interaction of the fields come from. What can we do with it? And what gives us
energies, that puts us outside the frame of the physical boundaries? We call it, cocaine
addiction, they're in a different world.
人是会犯错的，人会摧毁他的肉体，但不能摧毁他的灵魂。然后，在创造的过程中，我们
所寻找的，我们所坐着的，是这种场的相互作用的组合如何以及从何而来。我们能用它做
什么？是什么给了我们能量，把我们置于物理边界的框架之外？我们称之为，可卡因成
瘾，他们在一个不同的世界。

But just go on the Internet and look at the chain of the existence of cocaine. How much,
into what strength, connect to these two. We are addicts created out of the absorption of
the energy of the Universe from the minute we were created when Mr. COHN connected
with CH3, the original sugar. All our energies, we call it sugars. Interaction of expansion
of movement we call it, sugars, (:34). comes from the interaction of the two key field
forces of the Universe, "piggyback" and housing of it. When you look at it, in this
atmosphere, we created the H and O in the dimension of ？? physicality.
但只要上网看看可卡因存在的链条。多少，变成什么力量，连接到这两个。我们是瘾君
子，从我们被创造出来的那一刻起，我们就吸收了宇宙的能量，当科恩先生与 CH3（最初的
糖）连接时。我们所有的能量，我们称之为糖。运动扩展的相互作用，我们称之为糖，
（：34）。来自宇宙的两个关键场力的相互作用，“背负式”和它的外壳。当你看它的时
候，在这个大气中，我们创造了 H 和 O 的维度。?物质性。

In the dimension of the Universe we have the same position. C14 creates the environment
for hydrogen and deuterium to live, to expand and to be able to move across. The way we
在宇宙的维度中，我们有相同的位置。C14 为氢和氘创造了生存、膨胀和移动的环境。我们
的方式
talk about the rays and the fields when it comes to light, or to photons, we have the same
proposition with C14 and deuterium. When you see in the dimension of a star, you are on
the rays of the Universe. When you manifest it, when they come to the point of
interaction of manifestation, then they become fields. How many rays you have to put
together to make that field?
谈到光线和场，当涉及到光或光子时，我们对 C14 和氘也有同样的看法。当你看到一颗恒
星的维度时，你就在宇宙的光线上。当你显化它时，当它们到达显化的相互作用点时，它
们就变成了场。你要把多少射线放在一起才能形成那个场？

As I always teach to the children, when I teach them. I say, look at this, this is a farming
land, this is a land. You put the road in it (down the middle of the land), this is a ray. When you
put so many of the rays next to each other, they need the space. They become
fields. Field of rice, where the road goes through, or where the line of rice goes. Then it's
not a field, it's just a road. It's just a ray. (:36). When you put too many rows of rice
together, you have a field of rice.
就像我一直教孩子们的那样，当我教他们的时候。我说，看看这个，这是一块耕地，这是
一块土地。你把路放在里面（在土地的中间），这是一条射线。当你把这么多的光线放在
一起时，它们需要空间。它们变成了田地。稻田，道路经过的地方，或者稻行经过的地
方。那它就不是一块地，只是一条路。只是一条射线。(: 36).当你把太多行水稻放在一
起时，你就有了一片稻田。

But in the Universe is simple, the interaction of these rays creates a field, we call it C14,
where the hydrogen ？? is a deuterium, it's the road, the pathway. If our scientists
understand this, then they can decide even at any point in the Universe, to create a new
star. Because the interaction of the plasma with these two, will bring the dimension of the
fields to interact, to live, and to become a part of the structure of the Totality.
但在宇宙中很简单，这些射线的相互作用产生了一个场，我们称之为 C14，其中氢？?是
氘，它是道路，是路径。如果我们的科学家明白这一点，那么他们甚至可以在宇宙中的任
何一点决定创造一颗新的恒星。因为等离子体与这两者的相互作用，将使场的维度相互作
用，生存，并成为整体结构的一部分。

Then you understand, when I tell you, your Soul of the Man (STM), Earth is what we
call, a greenhouse. Earth is the nursery of these points, that when they find the
gravitational magnetic field strength, MaGrav of themselves in a given point in the
interaction with the rest of the fields, create a new cycle, we call it, a planetary system, a
star system, or whatever, or a dust in the space.
然后你明白，当我告诉你，你的人的灵魂（STM），地球是我们所说的，一个温室。地球
是这些点的托儿所，当它们发现重力磁场强度时，它们自己在一个给定点与其他场相互作
用，创造了一个新的周期，我们称之为，一个行星系统，一个恒星系统，或其他什么，或
空间中的尘埃。

Our Soul is taken, travels through the fields and through the rays to the point where it
finds its balance, in respect to itself, to its environment ？? and to the field of the Universe,
and the stars, the seed of a new life. Does not need to be physical, as life lives in the
dimension of plasma transfer.
我们的灵魂被带走，穿过田野，穿过光线，到达它找到平衡的地方，相对于它自己，相对
于它的环境。?以及宇宙的原野和星辰，新生命的种子。不需要是物理的，因为生命存在
于血浆转移的维度中。

Then you understand how man's Soul is important. (:38). When you put a dirty clothing
outside you don't expect it to clean itself. You wash it clean, and let the environment to
dry it for you, to have it ready for you to be used in a perfect condition. So is the STM.
So man has to carry no what I call, dirt within their Soul of Physicality (STP), that when
it's left in space in the Universe creates another mayhem of killing, because the
physicality remembered how to kill to live for his own satisfaction. As I always say, don't
wash your dirty clothes in public. Do not carry the essence of the killing and injustice
across the Universe.
那你就明白人的灵魂有多重要了。(: 38).当你把一件脏衣服放在外面时，你不会指望它
会自己洗干净。你把它洗干净，让环境为你晾干，让它在完美的状态下为你准备好。STM
也是。所以人类必须在他们的肉体灵魂（STP）中不携带我所说的污垢，当它被留在宇宙
的空间中时，会造成另一场杀戮的混乱，因为肉体记住了如何为了满足自己而杀人。就像
我常说的，不要在公共场合洗你的脏衣服。不要把杀戮和不公正的本质带到宇宙中。

Because if you go back to all the teaching, we always said, the STM and the STP is
within it. If this little chap still remembers how to kill, when he takes over, what is he
going to do? Do the same as it's done here. This is why we say that killing, destruction of
other type of lives and living, has to become washed away from the nature of the man's
energy pattern of STP, has a reason. Addiction to kill has to move out of the STP of the
man. Otherwise man will never become part of Universal Community. This is why in so
many ways, we have come to correct this. As the Souls who left this structure as a
因为如果你回到所有的教学中，我们总是说，STM 和 STP 就在其中。如果这个小家伙还记
得如何杀人，当他接手时，他会怎么做？和这里做的一样。这就是为什么我们说，杀戮，
破坏其他类型的生命和生活，必须从 STP 的人类能量模式的本质中洗去，是有原因的。杀
人成瘾必须走出男人的 STP.否则，人类将永远不会成为宇宙共同体的一部分。这就是为
什么在许多方面，我们已经开始纠正这一点。作为离开这座建筑的灵魂
nursery of the new Souls, (:40). some carry that essence of killing. And the same
mayhem shows itself in other parts of the Universe.
新灵魂托儿所，（：40）。有些带有杀戮的本质。在宇宙的其他地方也发生了同样
的混乱。

Instead of going correcting them one by one, we correct the seed at the center, which is
the Earth, the nursery of the Souls. When they carry the STP, destruction of other
collection of fields become erased from the structure of his patterns of energy. Now, if
you understood this, this is why we say, the "children of Mitra" will be created out of
fields, because in the dimension of physicality, the STP will clean that dimension of the
killing. Where when it's created in the dimension of the Soul, has no attachment to
physicality, even though manifests itself in the shape of a child.
我们不是一个一个地去纠正它们，而是纠正中心的种子，那就是地球，灵魂的托儿所。当他
们携带 STP 时，其他能量场集合的破坏将从他的能量模式结构中抹去。现在，如果你理解了
这一点，这就是为什么我们说，“密特拉的孩子们”将从能量场中被创造出来，因为在肉体
的维度中，STP 将清除杀戮的维度。当它在灵魂的维度中被创造时，它对肉体没有任何依
恋，即使它以一个孩子的形状显现出来。

Last week, I said, we come amongst man to find the weakness of man, to find how to find
a solution for it. We come amongst man to eat and live like man, to see how this process
can be stopped. And how man will accept it. Otherwise, it would have been easy, just to
erase the dimension of the Creation of the system.
上周，我说过，我们来到人类中间是为了发现人类的弱点，找到解决它的方法。我们来到人
类中间，像人类一样吃饭和生活，看看如何阻止这一过程。以及人类如何接受它。否则，这
将是很容易的，只是抹去系统创建的维度。

As I said, in the first structure, as we saw the Creation of the environment gave life, or
gave the condition of the water. What does the condition of environment of your Soul
creates? (:42). Many of you have started feeling, have started going through this process
of expansion of the Soul to bring in the dimension of the physicality. And at the moment,
you're in dilemma. Many of the Knowledge Seekers who went through the "dinning with
the Creator" are ？? battling this. The reality and imagination, which is reality, but they
imagine to be imagination. I feel things before it happens. Because now I do things
without knowing. But it happens. Because now the part you don't remember, but it
happens, is the part which is done by your Soul.
正如我所说，在第一个结构中，正如我们所看到的，环境的创造赋予了生命，或者说赋予了
水的条件。你灵魂的环境条件是什么造成的？(: 42).你们中的许多人已经开始感受，已经
开始经历这个灵魂扩展的过程，以引入物质层的维度。此刻，你正处于进退两难的境地。许
多经历过“与造物主共进晚餐”的求知者都是。?与此作斗争。现实和想象，这是现实，但
他们想象的是想象。我在事情发生之前就感觉到了。因为现在我做事情都不知道。但它发生
了。因为现在你不记得的那部分，但它发生了，那部分是由你的灵魂完成的。

I was explaining yesterday to one of the Knowledge Seekers, why we sleep the 4 hour
cycle. And what happens in that switch over. As I've taught in other parts of the teaching
in the what we call, the medical side, is that man has left brain and the right brain. Left
side of the physicality, and the right side of the physicality. But in the herd of animals we
live one cow to stand up when we have other animals. There is one or two always
standing up while the others are resting, they become the observer. If anything happens,
they can call the rest, that there's a danger, (:44). there is a change. It's time for the whole
herd to stand up.
昨天我向一位知识寻求者解释，为什么我们以 4 小时为周期睡觉。在转换过程中会发生什
么。正如我在教学的其他部分所教的，在我们所说的医学方面，人有左脑和右脑。肉体的左
边，和肉体的右边。但在一群动物中，我们生活着一头牛，当我们有其他动物时，它会站起
来。有一两个人总是在其他人休息的时候站起来，他们成了观察者。如果发生任何事情，他
们可以打电话给其他人，说有危险，（：44）。有一个变化。是时候让所有人都站起来了。

In the life of the Man, Man has solved this problem. He has put, and he puts something
very simple. He puts the left side of the brain in charge of the right (side of body) and
goes to sleep for 4 hours, or goes into repair condition, or he goes into dimension. But the
Soul is always awake. The 4 hour for a cycle, the right side of the brain to re-energize,
and the left side of the body going to repair. The cow which was a standing up to watch if
anything happens is the left side of the brain. That's why we always suddenly wake up if
there is a noise, because this guy is on duty. We don't need one man to stand up for the
rest of us to sleep, when we are alone.
在人的一生中，人已经解决了这个问题。他把，他把一些非常简单的东西。他让左脑掌管右
脑（身体的一侧），然后睡上 4 个小时，或者进入修复状态，或者进入维度。但灵魂永远是
清醒的。4 个小时为一个周期，大脑的右侧重新充满活力，身体的左侧去修复。如果有什么
事情发生，站起来看的那头牛是左脑。这就是为什么我们总是突然醒来，如果有噪音，因为
这个家伙是值班的。当我们独自一人时，我们不需要一个人站起来让其他人睡觉。

Man built this in his habit. Because he became a nomad, he separated, and he had to
watch others, nothing happened to him while he's asleep. Then 4 hours later, we switch.
人类在他的习惯中建立了这个。因为他变成了一个流浪者，他分开了，他不得不看着别人，
在他睡觉的时候什么都没有发生。4 小时后，我们换了。
This guy goes to sleep, rest, recovery, and this guy becomes awake. That's why we have
4 hour cycles.
这个人睡着了，休息，恢复，然后这个人醒了。这就是为什么我们有 4 个小时的周期。

And somewhere in between the switching you can always take that dimension of the
Soul. We do most of our dreaming in this condition, (:46). at the end of the cycle, first
full cycle. And when we switch, when the Soul still handing over one to the other,
because it's in control, this is what we remember. This is why most of the accidents
happens between four and five o'clock in the morning. From 3:30 to 4:30 to 5:00 is the
highest rate of car accidents. Because people fall asleep, because it's a hand over time,
nobody is in charge.
在转换之间的某个地方，你总是可以选择灵魂的那个维度。我们大部分的梦都是在这种情
况下做的。在循环结束时，第一个完整循环。当我们转换时，当灵魂仍然把一个交给另一
个时，因为它在控制中，这就是我们所记得的。这就是为什么大多数事故发生在凌晨四点
到五点之间。三点半到四点半到五点是车祸率最高的时段。因为人们睡着了，因为这只是
时间的一只手，没有人负责。

This is why you sit in the car, you drive from A to B and you don't know how you arrived
to A. Yes. This cycle repeats itself every hour during your awaken time. And if you drive
in the time of the first cycle, which is physically asleep, the other one takes you home. And you
don't know how you arrived. Many of you have done this. I don't know how I
got here. Because you drove at the time of the physicality asleep time of the cycle. Where
the other side was in charge, and stayed in charge and brought you home.
这就是为什么你坐在车里，你从 A 地开到 B 地，你不知道你是如何到达 A 地的。是的。在
你醒来的时间里，这个循环每小时重复一次。如果你在第一个周期的时候开车，也就是身
体睡着的时候，另一个周期会带你回家。你不知道你是怎么来的。你们中的许多人已经这
样做了。我不知道我是怎么来的。因为你在周期的身体睡眠时间开车。在那里，另一方负
责，并留在那里负责，并把你带回家。

Now the mystery of not knowing and arriving is solved. You understand. But the Soul is
all time in charge nothing happens to any of it. I am protecting. (:48). At the time of the
weakness of the physical dimension the Soul is in charge of it. Interaction with other
Souls, keep away, we are coming. What happens when you crash, when you fall asleep? It's the
time of the switch, nobody's in charge.
现在不知道和到达的谜团解开了。你明白的。但灵魂一直在掌控之中，不会发生任何事
情。我在保护。(: 48).在物质维度虚弱的时候，灵魂掌管着它。与其他灵魂的互动，远
离，我们来了。当你睡着的时候会发生什么？现在是转换的时候，没有人负责。

When you push the two limits of 4 hourly, and hourly resolution back to each other you
get mayhem. This is why when you don't sleep you have a problem during the day. Or
you're a night shifter, if you don't sleep your daytime, you run into problem at night. We
trained our body to switch, and when to switch, and when will be the beginning of the
first cycle. When I close my eyes, when I sit, it's the cycle ？? started, time ticking.
当你把 4 小时和每小时的分辨率这两个限制推给对方时，你就会陷入混乱。这就是为什么
当你不睡觉的时候，你在白天会有问题。或者你是一个夜行者，如果你白天不睡觉，晚上
就会遇到问题。我们训练我们的身体转换，什么时候转换，什么时候将是第一个周期的开
始。当我闭上眼睛的时候，当我坐着的时候，这就是循环。?开始了，时间滴答。

Then this is why some of us just needs a few seconds to rest physically to be fully
charged. Because we have learned to tap into Universal fields for that short time. Just a
few minutes is just sleeping 4 hours. We can even do it with our eyes open. Because the
Soul is watching. Now both the physical and the Soul strength are on duty. (:50). Both
C14 and C12 simultaneously are scanning, are working, are changing and giving
information and delivering.
这就是为什么我们中的一些人只需要休息几秒钟就能充满电。因为我们已经学会在这么短
的时间内进入宇宙领域。仅仅几分钟就是睡了 4 个小时。我们甚至可以睁着眼睛做。因为
灵魂在看着。现在身体和灵魂的力量都在发挥作用。(: 50).C14 和 C12 同时扫描、工
作、改变、给出信息和传递。

Now, man should understand how he has become a passenger of Universe, how he is part
of that Universe. There is something fundamental, which I explained in the teachings
before. This is the center. In this center, there's certain fields, there is certain types of life
existence. But this center due to the fields and the rays interaction creates this
atmosphere, which again through interactions of fields, life exist here. And the interaction
of the two creates a new dimension. And this goes on and on. And it happens in all
positions of it.
现在，人类应该明白他是如何成为宇宙的乘客的，他是如何成为宇宙的一部分的。有一些
基本的东西，我在之前的教导中解释过。这是中心。在这个中心，有特定的领域，有特定
类型的生命存在。但是这个中心，由于场和射线的相互作用，创造了这种气氛，通过场的
相互作用，生命存在于这里。两者的相互作用创造了一个新的维度。这种情况还在继续。
它发生在它的所有位置。
Man is somewhere down the line here in the world of Creation. The interaction, the fields
of the fields, of the fields, in creating new atmosphere, creates a condition where man can
live. But in a way, we are still in that embodiment. That embodiment fields gives us the
right to exist. Now we are that mouth, with new magnetic field inside it as a body of the
man. So the process is the same along the whole cycle of Creation. (:52).
在创造的世界里，人类就在这条线的某处。相互作用，场的场，场的场，在创造新的气氛
中，创造了人类可以生存的条件。但在某种程度上，我们仍然在那个体现中。这个体现领域
给了我们存在的权利。现在我们是那张嘴，里面有新的磁场，就像人的身体一样。因此，在
整个创造周期中，这个过程是相同的。(: 52).

With our body, we create a condition that organs, cells can exist. So, in the dimension of
Soul of the Creator, we are the same. We are in the embodiment of the field of the
Totality within. Are we part of the cell of the liver of the Creator? Or are we part of the
cell of His skin? Because we are too far to be His brain. But we are connected, because
His fields has created ？? us, created the condition for the amino acid of the Man to exist
in this time, place and position.
用我们的身体，我们创造了一个器官，细胞可以存在的条件。所以，在造物主的灵魂维度
上，我们是一样的。我们是内在整体能量场的化身。我们是造物主肝脏细胞的一部分吗？或
者我们是他皮肤细胞的一部分？因为我们离他的大脑太远了。但我们是相连的，因为他的能
量场创造了。?我们，为人类的氨基酸在这个时间、地点和位置的存在创造了条件。

Now you understand the connection between the Man and the Creator. Then the question
comes. We have seen Universes. And within it we have seen galaxies. But for this
Creator, which we call the God, the Creator, for it to exist has to be in another
environment of the same (draws a circle outside the creation). Who is the Mother of the
Creation? How did it started? And how does it become so, that it's so big? Or is in reality
the whole of the Universe we see is a speck of dust, and because we are so tiny in it, we
see it so big?
现在你明白了人和造物主之间的联系。那么问题来了。我们见过宇宙。在它里面我们看到了
星系。但对于这个造物主，我们称之为上帝，造物主，它必须存在于另一个相同的环境中
（在造物之外画一个圈）。谁是造物之母？它是怎么开始的？它是怎么变得这么大的？或者
我们看到的整个宇宙实际上是一粒尘埃，因为我们在其中是如此微小，所以我们看到它是如
此巨大？

Are we that single H in the atmosphere of the Creation of this Universe and Unicose, and
that's why we see it so big? (:54). What happens when we become a cell in this
structure? What will be our understanding of the Creation? And what happens when we
become the kidney as a Soul? And then we'll see how we control without us, that guy up
there cannot work.
我们是创造这个宇宙的大气中唯一的 H 吗？这就是为什么我们看到它如此之大？(: 54).当
我们成为这个结构中的一个细胞时，会发生什么？我们对创造的理解是什么？当我们成为灵
魂的肾脏时会发生什么？然后我们会看到我们如何控制没有我们，上面的那个家伙无法工
作。

Then the question of the Creation comes, why are we here? Or the life on this planet and
the life of the Man is just a coincidence. A collection of the accidents of the Universe,
interaction of the fields of the Creator and the Creation. Where are we coming from, and
where are we going to? In the transition the time of 50, or 80, or 100 years in the
manifestation of the plasma of the field of the skin of the Man's containment. What are
we fighting for?
然后，创造的问题来了，我们为什么在这里？或者这个星球上的生命和那个人的生命只是一
个巧合。收集了宇宙的偶然事件，造物主和造物场的相互作用。我们从哪里来，又要到哪里
去？在过渡的 50 年，或 80 年，或 100 年的时间里，在等离子体领域的显化中，皮肤对人的
包容。我们为什么而战？

As the rays of the Creator led to the Creation of the Man, and never stops, so is the life of
the Man, life cannot stop. But what do we do with it counts, how we change it counts. To
what we'll end up with, which counts. And this is the process of the teaching, which is
coming up. Our interaction with our Universe. Man has done all the interaction in
dimension of physicality.
正如造物主的光芒导致了人的创造，并且永不停止，人的生命也是如此，生命不能停止。但
我们用它做什么很重要，我们如何改变它很重要。我们最终会得到什么，这很重要。这就是
即将到来的教学过程。我们与宇宙的互动。人类已经在肉体的维度上完成了所有的互动。

Now, as teachers of the Universe we have to teach you how to behave. You've been
taught at home in a little village house. Now you're going into school, how to behave
with the other children in the school of Universe. Don't kick, don't shout, share, (:56). sit
next to each other, don't bite each other, don't eat each others food. Isn't this, what you're
taught when you go in the first day to school and the first years. You only take what's in
your basket, don't touch somebody else's. Take your own pen and not the others. Now
现在，作为宇宙的老师，我们必须教你如何表现。你在一个小村庄的家里接受教育。现在你
要去上学了，在宇宙学校里如何与其他孩子相处。不要踢，不要喊，分享，（：56）。坐在
一起，不要咬对方，不要吃对方的食物。这不就是你上学第一天和第一年所学到的吗？你只
拿你篮子里的东西，别碰别人的。拿你自己的笔，别拿别人的。现在
Man has to go through that nursery of the learning to live in the Universe. Don't steal
from the energy of the others. The message hasn't changed, is the same. But now man
from being home, and pinching from the brothers and sisters, other humans, now he has
to learn not to do it in the school of the Universe.
人类必须通过学习在宇宙中生存的托儿所。不要窃取他人的能量。信息没有改变，是一
样的。但现在人类从家里，从兄弟姐妹，从其他人类，现在他必须学会不在宇宙的学校
里做这件事。

We take you to the nursery first, to see that others are still wearing pampers, and they still
wet their pants. Because they haven't learned how to control and behave. And then maybe
we'll take you into school the first year. Don't be shy, don't be afraid of making mistakes. But
understand the mistakes has to be contained within the structure of the man, not to
harm the others.
我们先带你去托儿所，看看别人还在穿帮宝适，还在尿裤子。因为他们还没有学会如何
控制和表现。也许第一年我们会带你去学校。不要害羞，不要害怕犯错误。但要明白，
错误必须包含在人的结构中，而不是伤害他人。

Life has to be correct in all its dimensions, be the Man on Earth, be it of the life in the
Universe. And that's all these teachings are. Now we are taking you into the nursery of
the Creation. Please don't bite the other child, and his food is not yours. (:58). Then Man
become educated to live within the Universe. But we have to give you the package of
food that you have, that you learn not to steal from the others. Don't carry the killing on
outside the Earth. Because you learn first of all, there is food for everyone.
作为地球上的人，作为宇宙中的生命，生命必须在各个方面都是正确的。这就是所有这
些教义。现在我们带你进入造物的托儿所。请不要咬另一个孩子，他的食物不是你的。
(: 58).然后，人类开始接受生活在宇宙中的教育。但我们必须给你一包你拥有的食物，
让你学会不从别人那里偷东西。不要把杀戮带到地球之外。因为你首先知道，每个人都
有食物。

But the point is when you go to the Universal Community, and you come back to Earth,
would you start killing again on this planet? Oh, I've being away from home, I miss
chelae Kebab, let's go and eat this animal. And let's go and eat the other animal. You're a
Chinese you go back home. I haven't had any whatever, roast duck, and the rest of it. We
behave as part of the Universal Community outside, then we come home and we become
animals. This is the whole burden the Man has to stop living that schizophrenic life.
但关键是，当你去宇宙社区，然后回到地球，你会在这个星球上再次开始杀戮吗？哦，
我离开了家，我想念烤肉串，我们去吃这个动物吧。我们去吃另一只动物吧。你是中国
人，你回家。我什么都没吃，烤鸭，还有其他的。我们在外面表现得像宇宙共同体的一
部分，然后我们回家，我们变成了动物。这是这个男人必须停止精神分裂生活的全部负
担。

We don't go home, to start eating. We go home to share love and the love of the Creator
with those who understand this ？? ？? from us. If Man could understand the full, if Man
could feel the full love of the Creator, he would have melted long time. We have a little
bit of it, and we think we are the Creator of the lovers. We do it the French way, the
German way, the Arab way, and every other way. But this is just the physicality of the
Man's love.
我们不回家，开始吃饭。我们回家与那些理解这一点的人分享爱和造物主的爱。?？?从
我们这里。如果人能理解全部，如果人能感受到造物主的全部爱，他早就融化了。我们
有一点点，我们认为我们是恋人的创造者。我们用法国的方式，德国的方式，阿拉伯的
方式和其他方式来做。但这只是男人爱的物质性。

What happen when you get touched through the true love of the Creator? And then what
you do? We learn to live to be the same outside, as the inside. (1:00). We don't leave the
Korean way. The domestic violence in Korean household is beyond imagination. They
beat their wives as a national sport. Outside, we see them as the most perfect people. As I
said to a Knowledge Seeker, do you know the French created the perfume, because they
don't wash themselves, and the Koreans are the best in makeup's for women, because
they cannot show how they got beaten the night before by the husband, and they cover it
under the makeup. And they produce the best.
当你被造物主的真爱感动时，会发生什么？然后你做了什么？我们要学会活得和内在一
样，外在也一样。( 1: 00).我们不离开韩国的方式。韩国家庭中的家庭暴力超乎想象。
他们把殴打妻子作为一项全民运动。在外面，我们认为他们是最完美的人。正如我对一
位求知者所说的，你知道法国人发明了香水吗，因为他们不洗自己，而韩国人是最好的
女性化妆师，因为他们不能展示自己前一天晚上是如何被丈夫殴打的，他们把它盖在化
妆品下面。他们生产最好的。

Man should be the same makeup outside than inside the house, without getting beaten by
its own Soul. Killing should not be a national sport in the village of the Man. Being
obedient should not become the national sport of the man. Man should stay obedient only
to the action of the peaceful direction of emotion of this fields of his Creation in the
Universe, does not matter in which dimension. Beating the wife at home and walking out
人在外面应该和在家里一样，不会被自己的灵魂打败。在这个男人的村子里，杀人不应
该是一项全民运动。听话不应该成为男人的国技。人应该只服从他在宇宙中创造的这个
领域的情感的和平方向的行动，不管在哪个维度。在家里打老婆然后走出去。
in the smiling with a beautiful makeup, because covers the beating up, should not be the
feature of existence of the Man. And is the habit of the Koreans.
在微笑与美丽的化妆，因为掩盖殴打，不应该是男人的存在特征。这是韩国人的习惯。

We hide civilization behind our animal behave. (1:02). We are civilized to hide, we are
civilized to cheat, and to cover. The best makeup's comes from Korea if you are in that
game. Because they found the best way to cover the beating.
我们把文明隐藏在我们动物行为背后。( 1: 02).我们文明地隐藏，我们文明地欺骗和掩
盖。如果你在游戏中，最好的化妆品来自韩国。因为他们找到了掩盖殴打的最好方法。

Now you understand how man needs to become, to be part of a society, which is the same
outside, than inside. We don't go home to Earth to kill, we go home to create the love of
Creation. To bring back what more we learned, different ways of loving, to give. Let's see
what will be the national sport of the village of the Man in the U. The killing side and
outside we are "energy absorbers." Or we ate on the diner of the Creator, and we learn it's
all the same. We go for a break and come back and try to share more knowledge.
现在你明白了人需要如何成为社会的一部分，社会的外部和内部是一样的。我们回到地球不
是为了杀戮，我们回家是为了创造造物之爱。带回我们学到的更多东西，爱的不同方式，给
予。让我们看看什么将是美国男人的村庄的国家运动。杀戮的一方和外面我们是“能量吸收
器”。或者我们在造物主的餐车上吃了饭，我们知道这都是一样的。我们去休息一下，然后
回来分享更多的知识。

<< BREAK >> 477 KSW March 16, 2023 (1:09).

<<休息>>477 KSW 2023 年 3 月 16 日（1：09）。

K- No we are open to share knowledge. Somebody asked in the background a question to

explain more about the Korea. In Korea according to the national statistics of United
Nations, officially announced not, and they said only 50% of .. domestic violence is
reported. Everyday 1 individual is killed in Korea through domestic violence. The highest
rate in the world, in South Korea. (1:10). Official statistics are 1.5 to 1.8 a day between
each murder. But unofficially it's about more than one a day. And then we consider is
such a civilization, very civilized people. Domestic violence is considered as a family
affair, and not to go outside the frame of door of the house. So they beat each other out,
they make up, and they "made up" when they come out of the house, and you see some of
the most beautiful women around the world is Koreans. Because it's all covering up the
violence underneath.
不，我们愿意分享知识。有人在后台问了一个问题来解释更多关于韩国的事情。在韩国，根
据联合国的国家统计，官方没有公布，他们说只有 50%的..据报道，有家庭暴力。在韩国，
每天都有 1 人死于家庭暴力。世界上最高的比率，在韩国。( 1: 10).据官方统计，每起谋
杀案之间的间隔是 1.5 到 1.8 天。但非官方的说法是一天不止一次。然后我们认为是这样的
文明，非常文明的人。家庭暴力被认为是家庭事务，不能走出家门。所以他们互相殴打，他
们和好了，当他们走出家门时，他们“和好了”，你看世界上最漂亮的女人中有一些是韩国
人。因为这一切都掩盖了背后的暴力。

This is not, this should not be the habit of Man. And it's not just Koreans. Physical abuse
of women has been the habit of the Man. When you lead to physical violence, it means
you have already lost. You lose the humanity and you lose the Soul. If you allow this to
happen in the space, then become home in the village of the Man to carry out the
violence, and when we go out we are as good makeup artists, makeup producers as are
the Koreans. If you're in the world of fashion you know the best makeup's, and best of
any kind of makeup comes from South Korea, people don't understand. Now, you know
why. Because you have to cover the domestic violence. (1:12).
这不是，这不应该是人的习惯。不仅仅是韩国人。对妇女的身体虐待一直是男人的习惯。当
你导致身体暴力时，就意味着你已经输了。你失去了人性，失去了灵魂。如果你允许这种事
情发生在这个空间里，那么你就会成为实施暴力的人的村庄里的家，当我们出去的时候，我
们和韩国人一样是优秀的化妆师、化妆师。如果你在时尚界，你知道最好的化妆品，而最好
的化妆品来自韩国，人们不理解。现在你知道为什么了。因为你必须掩盖家庭暴力。( 1:
12).
And this should not become the habitat of the Man in the space. It has to be uprooted at
home, in its base, where it comes. Goes back to the Ethos of Mitra, do good, act good,
think good so all is in the correct way. As you will say in Christianity, the "three gifts
from Persia" which was brought to Christ. It wasn't three kings, it's the three kings of the
life in the Universe by conduct.
这不应该成为人类在太空中的栖息地。它必须在家里，在它的基地，在它来的地方被连根
拔起。回到米特拉的精神，做好事，做好事，想好事，所以一切都是正确的。正如你在基
督教中所说的，“来自波斯的三件礼物”是带给基督的。它不是三个国王，它是宇宙生命
行为的三个国王。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. Hi, Mr. Keshe. Will the Foundation be interested in collaboration with "tech
companies"?
问：..嗨，凯什先生。基金会是否有兴趣与“科技公司”合作？

K- We are interested to collaborate with any companies. The problem, you'll understand
and this is one of the things that now we are discussing on national levels. I'm traveling in
the next few hours for another dimension of this with major organizations. We have a
habit of we only respect if we are caught. And if I can keep it in dilemma, we abuse it
what we call, patents. (1:14). As we have opened our patents, when we sit and share
knowledge and technology with companies, and governments, and nations. They ask you,
where is your patent? And we tell them, we opened our patent on it. (Then they say,) so
we don't need to negotiate with you, your knowledge is ours. Why should we? And then
they take our knowledge and they patent it, try to patent it to benefit by it. This is one of
the biggest problem with the commercial organizations.
我们有兴趣与任何公司合作。这个问题，你会明白的，这是我们现在在国家层面上讨论的
问题之一。在接下来的几个小时里，我将与主要组织一起前往另一个维度。我们有一个习
惯，我们只有在被抓住的时候才会尊重。如果我能让它处于进退两难的境地，我们就会滥
用它，我们称之为专利。( 1: 14).当我们开放我们的专利时，当我们坐下来与公司、政
府和国家分享知识和技术时。他们问你，你的专利在哪里？我们告诉他们，我们开放了我
们的专利。（然后他们说，）所以我们不需要和你谈判，你的知识是我们的。我们为什么
要？然后他们把我们的知识申请专利，试图申请专利以从中受益。这是商业机构最大的问
题之一。

And in my negotiations with two or three governments we are changing this mentality. What we
are talking to them is that, we give you the knowledge, maybe a thousand
people, maybe a percentage of your nation will use our technology. Because we are
teaching on the screen, on television, radios, whatever. We want the respect that the
knowledge is ours, and commercial benefits of it goes to the Foundation, that we can
spend on the others.
在我与两三个政府的谈判中，我们正在改变这种心态。我们和他们谈的是，我们给你们知
识，也许有一千人，也许你们国家的一部分人会使用我们的技术。因为我们在屏幕上教
学，在电视上，在收音机里，无论什么。我们想要的尊重是，知识是我们的，它的商业利
益属于基金会，我们可以把它花在别人身上。

The word patent should not exist. God never patented the Sun, never patented the amino
acid. So it's coming to the point of respecting the knowledge and technologies, which do
that always benefit by it. We have this one now, with one of the major car manufacturers
and their organization, Musk ？? runs. A lot of technology of the Keshe Foundation is
copied by them, and is coming out of their system as part of theirs. But in fact, the
American government has bought Musk ?? our patent, to see what they can copy from the
Keshe Foundation. If you go into their car industry and others, it's all replication of the
Keshe Foundation technologies. (1:16). Don't forget, when Musk went with Americans
to Moscow the first time, and the Chinese some 20 years ago, nobody accepted it.
专利这个词不应该存在。上帝从未为太阳申请专利，也从未为氨基酸申请专利。所以它已
经到了尊重知识和技术的地步，这些知识和技术总是从中受益。我们现在有一个，主要的
汽车制造商之一和他们的组织，马斯克。?跑步。Keshe 基金会的很多技术都被他们复制
了，并从他们的系统中走出来，成为他们的一部分。但事实上，美国政府已经买下了马斯
克？我们的专利，看看他们能从 Keshe 基金会复制什么。如果你进入他们的汽车行业和其
他行业，这都是对 Keshe 基金会技术的复制。( 1: 16).别忘了，大约 20 年前，当马斯克
第一次和美国人以及中国人一起去莫斯科时，没有人接受它。

He openly steals technology. But he has the backing of a government who is used to
stealing. We still talk to them, because our technologies, which they can't even dream. They're
just like Japanese, what do you call, Chinese, just copy. We work with
industries. At the moment we are talking, Knowledge Seekers in the background know. We are
introducing technologies to some governments in different aspects. And without
signing patents. We ask for the national growth income, what's the GDP, what is going to
be the effect of this technology on your GDP, what percentage of GDP is transferable to
Keshe Foundation of that country to be spent on the nation.
他公然窃取技术。但他得到了习惯于偷窃的政府的支持。我们仍然与他们交谈，因为我们
的技术，他们甚至不能梦想。他们就像日本人，你叫什么，中国人，只是复制。我们与行
业合作。在我们谈话的时候，后台的知识寻求者知道。我们正在向一些政府介绍不同方面
的技术。而且没有签署专利。我们要求国家收入增长，GDP 是多少，这项技术对你的 GDP
有什么影响，有多少百分比的 GDP 可以转移到那个国家的 Keshe 基金会，用于国家。

We talking to industries, we are open of course. It's our obligation to share the
knowledge. But it's not our stupidity or weakness. It's us setting out the seed for the new
generation, that intellect has to be respected, not registering it and then stealing it. You
know, the story of the (car windshield) wiper. The guy who invented a new type of
wipers, till Mitsubishi came out with a new type of wipers some years ago. Over 25 years
ago when he came up with it. He put a patent and he was refused. (1:18). All the car
manufacturers around the world use his patent till it's run out of time and date. For 20
years he fought in every courts,. confirms, this is my patent. He wasted all his life. And
all of us enjoyed not crashing our cars. We never understood his suffering.
我们与行业对话，我们当然是开放的。分享知识是我们的义务。但这不是我们的愚蠢或软
弱。这是我们为新一代播下的种子，这种智慧必须得到尊重，而不是注册它然后窃取它。
你知道，（汽车挡风玻璃）雨刷的故事。他发明了一种新型雨刷，直到几年前三菱推出了
一种新型雨刷。25 年前他想出来的时候。他申请了专利，但被拒绝了。( 1: 18).世界上
所有的汽车制造商都在使用他的专利，直到没有时间和日期为止。二十年来，他在每一个
法庭上战斗，。这是我的专利。他虚度了一生。我们所有人都喜欢不撞车。我们一直不理
解他的痛苦。

This is what it has to go. The national data for who delivers what, and then respecting it. We do it
with our artists. If you live in Europe, you pay, it doesn't matter you have a
television or radio, you pay a fee for the media as a part of annual payment. And then
from that, they pay to the register artists depends how much their music was played on. We
respect our musician, but we don't respect our scientists. We have a problem in the
Keshe Foundation. We do a lot of tunes ？? chip and Knowledge Seekers, in the beginning
10 years ago, they used. They have no problem with their tunes being in our teachings. But if we
go public, those people who used the tunes of, (because) they didn't know they
have to use a registered music. We'll get all of them on top of us. You used this music for
10 seconds in such a such a teaching. We want to be paid. What happen with all the
teaching the past 10 years we put in public? Who's paying us for the Chinese going to
space, or Musk to create a condition, new Nano materials for rechargeable batteries and
everything else.
这是它必须去的地方。谁提供什么的国家数据，然后尊重它。我们和我们的艺术家一起
做。如果你住在欧洲，你要付钱，不管你有电视还是收音机，你都要为媒体付费，作为年
度付款的一部分。然后，他们向注册艺术家支付的费用取决于他们的音乐被播放了多少。
我们尊重我们的音乐家，却不尊重我们的科学家。我们在 Keshe 基金会有一个问题。我们
唱了很多曲子。?芯片和知识的追求者，在 10 年前开始，他们使用。他们的曲调在我们的
教导中没有任何问题。但如果我们上市，那些使用音乐的人，（因为）他们不知道他们必
须使用注册音乐。我们会把他们都压在我们身上。你在这样一个教学中用了 10 秒钟的音
乐。我们想要报酬。在过去的 10 年里，我们公开的所有教学都发生了什么？谁付钱给我
们让中国人去太空，或者马斯克创造条件，为可充电电池和其他东西提供新的纳米材料。
We are not blind and we are not a fool. But we know we are setting the trend as a major
basic change in the technology will bring that position too. Musk cannot patent anything
which is connected through the structure of the Nano technology. (1:20). Because it's an
open patent, it doesn't matter how you twitch it. But we still work with them, we still go
to them, this is what it is.
我们不是瞎子，也不是傻瓜。但我们知道，我们正在引领这一趋势，因为技术的重大基
本变化也将带来这一地位。马斯克不能为任何通过纳米技术结构连接的东西申请专利。(
1: 20).因为这是一个开放的专利，你怎么抽都无所谓。但我们仍然和他们一起工作，我
们仍然去找他们，这就是事实。

You will see major changes coming out of China through Keshe Foundation technology
in the next two to three months. They respect us, they respect the technology we're
bringing in. In my trip into China in next few weeks, the most evolutionary technologies
will be handed to the Chinese government. Man cannot even dream these things can
exist. Even our own scientists who are creating don't understand what's behind it.
在接下来的两到三个月里，你将通过科舍基金会技术看到中国发生的重大变化。他们尊重
我们，他们尊重我们带来的技术。在我未来几周的中国之行中，最先进的技术将被移交给
中国政府。人类甚至不能梦想这些东西能够存在。即使是我们自己正在创造的科学家也不
明白它背后的东西。

The gun policy of United States to create arms to keep peace has changed to create
science, with it to bring peace. The Ethos of the Keshe Foundation, technology in
exchange for peace. And resonates with the work of president Xi of China and the new
CPC leadership. And usually people who think and work the same, they work together.
美国制造武器以维护和平的枪支政策已经转变为创造科学，用科学带来和平。科舍基金
会的精神，技术换和平。与中国国家主席习近平和中国共产党新一届领导集体的工作产
生共鸣。通常那些想法和工作相同的人，他们一起工作。

We've seen how, by division between the Arabs and Israelis and different sects of Islam
and Christianity, West has kept the wars going. And we see in past few months, the new
我们已经看到，通过阿拉伯人和以色列人以及伊斯兰教和基督教的不同教派之间的分裂，
西方是如何让战争继续下去的。在过去的几个月里，我们看到了
leadership in China, using its power of economy and technology has brought Saudi
Arabia and Iran on the table of peace. Power to create peace. And with it we see the new
changes around Middle East, the Americans have lost base. We see the new cycle of
peace going on, (1:22). all backed by the nation who can support peace, development,
bring in Chinese companies into operation in other places of the world, doesn't matter on
Silk Road Map or anything else. This is why we move in that base.
中国的领导，利用其经济和技术的力量，把沙特阿拉伯和伊朗带到了和平的谈判桌上。创造
和平的力量。随着它的到来，我们看到了中东地区的新变化，美国人已经失去了基础。我们
看到新的和平周期正在进行（1：22）。所有这些都得到了国家的支持，他们可以支持和
平、发展，让中国公司在世界其他地方开展业务，这在丝绸之路地图或其他任何东西上都无
关紧要。这就是我们搬到那个基地的原因。

We don't need patent with the Chinese. They accept and respect for the new technology. And we
walk through that through our people in China, the same. The Enhancement
Units you see, the first series of it was manufactured in Austria and tested in China. Our
Knowledge Seekers in the background can tell you. We learned from it, and they
respected it, and we saw the pitfalls, what is right what is wrong, and it's there.
我们不需要中国人的专利。他们接受并尊重新技术。我们通过我们在中国的人走过，同样
的。你看到的增强单元，它的第一个系列是在奥地利制造并在中国测试的。我们后台的求知
者可以告诉你。我们从中学到了东西，他们尊重它，我们看到了陷阱，什么是对的，什么是
错的，它就在那里。

Even though some part of the technology and knowledge was abused by some of the
medical people in China ?? . I learned this when I was in China three, four years ago. One
of the Knowledge Seekers who was very close to Keshe Foundation was working with a
group of people in the background who he could translate the teaching of the Keshe
Foundation to them. And they changed the name of the plasma technology to "Quantum." And the
Chinese government went after them, because they knew they're stilling. As far
as I know, he was arrested at a traffic light somewhere in China two or three years ago. Because
they know where the technology comes from, and they respect it and keep it the
same way. So, we are open to discuss, to sit, (1:24). to bring anything on the table which
brings a better life for the others. It doesn't matter what industry.
即使部分技术和知识被中国的一些医务人员滥用？.我三、四年前在中国时学到了这一点。
其中一位与 Keshe 基金会关系非常密切的知识寻求者正在与一群幕后人员合作，他可以将
Keshe 基金会的教学内容翻译给他们。他们把等离子技术改名为“量子”。中国政府对他们
穷追不舍，因为他们知道他们还在。据我所知，他两三年前在中国某地的一个红绿灯处被
捕。因为他们知道技术是从哪里来的，他们尊重它，并以同样的方式保持它。所以，我们可
以讨论，可以坐下（1：24）。把任何能给别人带来更好生活的东西带到桌子上。不管是什
么行业。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

You know, talking about the industry in 2008-9, 2007-8. We negotiated with Microsoft
for three months. With the lawyers of Bill Gates. Face to face in different hotels in
Holland. Everything was understood to come out till the day I decided to take the "Red
Circle" with me to a meeting, and that day everything fell apart. And I could not
understand why. Later on we understood why. He destroyed negotiation. But even that
time, Bill Gates wanted the totality of the Keshe Foundation to shelve it, or use it the way
he wanted to do.
你知道，谈论 2008-9，2007-8 的行业。我们和微软谈判了三个月。比尔·盖茨的律师。在
荷兰不同的酒店面对面。直到我决定带着“红圈”去开会的那一天，一切都明白了，但那一
天一切都崩溃了。我不明白为什么。后来我们明白了原因。他破坏了谈判。但即使在那个时
候，比尔·盖茨也希望整个凯什基金会搁置它，或者按照他想要的方式使用它。

They can see the benefit of the, many of you have not understood, Nano layers,
superconductor along, super resistor across. This is a huge change in the game of the
Nano technology. He understood that at that time, for production of microchips. And they
haven't managed to fully develop it. One Korean company does that, which we
collaborate with, and they're creating new superconductors out of gold. The industries at
a high level understand what Keshe Foundation was even at that time going to bring.
他们可以看到纳米层的好处，你们很多人还不了解，沿着超导体，穿过超级电阻。这是纳米
技术游戏中的一个巨大变化。他明白，在当时，对于微芯片的生产。他们还没有完全开发
它。我们与一家韩国公司合作，他们正在用黄金制造新的超导体。高水平的行业甚至理解
Keshe 基金会在当时会带来什么。

When we couldn't complete we, (1:26). the whole thing fell apart with Microsoft. Immediately
within few days his prodigy, or his what I call "uncle," appeared to be
interested in Keshe Foundation technology. We could not come to any conclusion,
because we found out it's going to be shelved, and be controlled by the patent. The two
当我们不能完成我们，（1：26）。整个事情随着微软分崩离析。几天后，他的天才，或者
我所说的“叔叔”，似乎对 Keshe 基金会的技术很感兴趣。我们无法得出任何结论，因为我
们发现它将被搁置，并由专利控制。那两个
richest man in the world that I call, one "uncle" of the other, knew, understood the Keshe
technology in 2006-7, what it's going to do.
我称之为世界上最富有的人，一个是另一个的“叔叔”，他在 2006-7 年知道并理解了
Keshe 技术，它将做什么。

But it wasn't for sale. Because it's a knowledge of Creation, and knowledge of Creator,
you cannot patent it. When what I put in patent to be patented, if ?? not applicable, then
we have to patent the rays of the Sun, and the love of the Creator. And they're not
patentable, the same as ？? my knowledge.
但它是非卖品。因为它是创造的知识，是创造者的知识，你不能申请专利。当我申请专利
的时候，如果？如果不适用，那么我们必须为太阳的光芒和造物主的爱申请专利。它们不
能申请专利，就像？?我的知识。

I used the patent, I realized in 2005, when I sat with the bastard child of the King of
Belgium (?? Grama). And I understood, I wanted to share my knowledge with everyone,
but the who's going to listen to me? And ？? Wim explained to me, that with Red Circle,
because ？? Wim, the son of the, bastard son of the king of Belgium, brought Red Circle
into operation with us, we didn't know him (before that). And he said, this way, we can
control everything. And nobody in the world can do. And that word stuck to me. No one
in the world? So, this can reach the whole world. So we put the patent in.
我在 2005 年意识到，我使用了这项专利，当时我和比利时国王的私生子坐在一起（？格
兰玛）。我明白，我想与大家分享我的知识，但谁会听我的呢？和？?维姆向我解释说，
用红圈，因为？?维姆，比利时国王的私生子的儿子，带着红圈和我们一起行动，我们
（在那之前）不认识他。他说，这样，我们就可以控制一切。世界上没有人能做到。这个
词让我难以忘怀。世界上没有人？所以，这可以到达整个世界。所以我们把专利放进去。

And we did, we waited, we went through the European patent, then we went through the
International patent, and then we opened it. (1:28). I used the patent structure for
distribution of the knowledge. I told you, we come to Earth to learn man's way. And what
man does, we use the best way. That's why we even put that patent application, because
Wim said, that word in that meeting, "nobody in the world can copy, we control
everything." And that was my aim, to reach the world. So that was it.
我们做了，我们等待，我们通过了欧洲专利，然后我们通过了国际专利，然后我们打开了
它。( 1: 28).我使用专利结构来分发知识。我告诉过你，我们来到地球是为了学习人类
的方式。而人做什么，我们用最好的方式。这就是为什么我们甚至提出了专利申请，因为
维姆在那次会议上说，“世界上没有人可以复制，我们控制一切。”这就是我的目标，走
向世界。原来是这样。

So if we come to the point, what the Saudis say, anything man created belongs to God,
we don't obey no patents. Americans have a big hard job to get the Saudis to accept
intellectual rights. Intellect is a gift from the Creator, not a possession of man. And when
we get a government to understand and use and the creator of the what we call,
knowledge, and technologies to respect, the same the way they cover the musicians, they
cover the scientists, then we make the right step for expansion of the technology. Because
man, everyone will do it openly.
因此，如果我们说到这一点，沙特人所说的，人类创造的任何东西都属于上帝，我们不遵
守任何专利。要让沙特人接受知识产权，美国人面临着一项艰巨的任务。智慧是造物主的
礼物，而不是人类的财产。当我们让政府理解和使用我们所说的知识和技术的创造者，尊
重他们，就像他们保护音乐家，保护科学家一样，那么我们就为技术的扩展迈出了正确的
一步。因为每个人都会公开这么做。

This is what we say to a lot of you, and I know a lot of you haven't understood, a lot of
you suffer with it. And then you understand why not. Maybe you understand. We give the
technology to you free. Many of you give talks, make MaGravs, make all sorts of things
and you sell. How many of you have put anything back into the Foundation? None. You
haven't even given a single MaGrav free to anyone. So you suffer, because you haven't
understood. You need, as the English say, the wheel, or oil on the wheel. (1:30). When
you don't put oil on it, it comes to a ground.
这是我们对你们中的很多人说的话，我知道你们中的很多人还没有理解，你们中很多人为
此感到痛苦。然后你就明白为什么不了。也许你能理解。我们免费为您提供技术。你们中
的许多人发表演讲，制造磁引力，制造各种各样的东西，然后出售。你们中有多少人把东
西放回了基金会？没有。你甚至没有给任何人一个免费的马格拉夫。所以你痛苦，因为你
还不明白。正如英国人所说，你需要轮子，或者轮子上的油。( 1: 30).当你不给它上油
的时候，它就会掉到地上。

We didn't tell you come and pay us. If you make a donation from what you earned in past
years from the Keshe Foundation to the Foundation. It helps us to do something else. If
you gave MaGrav units, did free teachings and everybody else to benefit by it, that's a
payment, that's balancing. Then any technology can do. That's why we don't patent any of
our products, and people take it, "oh, we copied it, we go."
我们没有告诉你来付我们钱。如果你把你过去几年从 Keshe 基金会赚到的钱捐给基金会。
它帮助我们做别的事情。如果你给了马格拉夫单位，做了免费的教学，其他所有人都从中
受益，这就是一种支付，这就是平衡。那么任何技术都可以做到。这就是为什么我们不为
我们的任何产品申请专利，人们认为，“哦，我们复制了它，我们走了。”
I go to China, Musk will cry for selling one electric cars anywhere in the world. We hand
over 2 to 3,000 kilometers non-rechargeable system to the Chinese for electric cars in
China. Musk is happy with 600 kilometers a ？? month, and who wants to pay that?
如果我去中国，马斯克会为在世界任何地方销售一辆电动汽车而哭泣。我们把 2 到 3000 公
里的非充电系统交给中国人，用于中国的电动汽车。马斯克对 600 公里的速度很满意。?
一个月，谁愿意付这个钱？

You've got to understand when humanity works as one, we'll go much faster. When
humanity cheat each other one, man goes to a ground. And we've seen it with us. We got
cheated past few months and it didn't bring us to a ground, but slowed us down, but made
us wise. And we'll see the next step, what comes from it.
你必须明白，当人类作为一个整体工作时，我们会走得更快。当人类互相欺骗的时候，人
类就走到了地面。我们已经看到了这一点。在过去的几个月里，我们被骗了，这并没有让
我们陷入困境，而是让我们慢了下来，但让我们变得聪明。我们会看到下一步，它会带来
什么。

Anybody has ever stopped the progress of the man, has paid himself, not the man.
如果有人阻止了一个人的进步，他付出的是自己，而不是这个人。
Because somewhere mankind has taken the knowledge and moved on with it.
因为在某个地方，人类已经掌握了知识，并继续前进。

Any other questions?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. When traveling in the Universe, (1:32). do you intervene if there is an accident? Or

is it a natural cycle, that you should just observe? How do you justify it?
问：..在宇宙中旅行时，（1：32）。如果发生事故，你会介入吗？或者这是一个自然的
循环，你应该只是观察？你如何证明这一点？

K- Your Soul will decide. Your Soul will decide. First of all ask yourself a question, why
am I there to witness this? Has my physicality brought here me, to learn something
through my Soul? Or has my Soul brought me here to learn something from my
physicality? And what is my part in it? When do I go through the change?
你的灵魂会决定。你的灵魂会决定。首先，问你自己一个问题，为什么我要在那里见证这
一切？我的肉体把我带到这里，通过我的灵魂来学习一些东西吗？还是我的灵魂把我带到
这里是为了从我的肉体中学到一些东西？我在其中扮演什么角色？我什么时候去换零钱？

I was explaining this to one of our dearest Knowledge Seekers yesterday, because he
started going through the phase he couldn't understand, so I had to give him the example. I think
he's on the line, he knows who he is. We're talking about this, he is very close to
me, and very dear to me. I don't know when I sleep and I don't know when I'm awake. People tell
me, you snore, you do this. But I say, I can't, because I've been working. It's
the physicality taking charge, while the Soul is running its course.
昨天，我向我们最亲爱的知识寻求者之一解释了这一点，因为他开始经历他无法理解的阶
段，所以我不得不给他举个例子。我想他在线上，他知道自己是谁。我们正在谈论这件
事，他和我很亲近，也很亲密。我不知道什么时候睡觉，也不知道什么时候醒着。人们告
诉我，你打鼾，你这样做。但我说，我不能，因为我一直在工作。是肉体在掌控一切，而
灵魂在自生自灭。

But the funny thing is, when I get out of the bed and I put clothes on every morning, I
have a shiver on my body. It's just like jumping into the ice bucket. And this has become
more and more. And this is where the Soul has to hand over to physicality, and the
interaction of the two fields brings, that when you put your clothes on, now you touched
the Soul as well, which is taken over, working. And you feel that interaction like a
daylight, (1:34). you feel that chill, because one is higher than the other, and it's like
electric shock. People who've been near me they know, I talk about it quite often.
但有趣的是，当我每天早上从床上爬起来穿上衣服时，我的身体都会颤抖。就像跳进冰桶
一样。这已经变得越来越多。这就是灵魂必须移交给肉体的地方，两个能量场的相互作用
带来了，当你穿上衣服时，现在你也接触到了灵魂，它被接管了，工作着。你感觉到这种
互动就像日光一样（1：34）。你感觉到了那种寒意，因为一个比一个高，就像触电一
样。我身边的人知道，我经常谈论这件事。

I always covered it under, "oh it's the air conditioner, or whatever." But that's what it is. (It's) not
the air conditioner. Wherever I sleep, in the morning when I wake up, even day
time, I put any clothes on, the interaction of handover from the Soul to physicality brings
that chill, that freezing feeling. Doesn't matter it's the middle of winter or height of the
summer. When you learn to live with this, then you come to understand the cycle of life.
我总是把它盖在下面，“哦，是空调，或者别的什么。”但事实就是如此。不是空调。无
论我睡在哪里，早上醒来，甚至白天，我穿上任何衣服，从灵魂到肉体的交接的互动带来
了那种寒冷，那种冰冷的感觉。不管是隆冬还是盛夏。当你学会接受这一点时，你就会理
解生命的循环。

How much time of my Soul, spends in other dimensions, that I remember part of which
has to do with the physicality of the Man. And then I have to bring all in the dimension of
the physicality. Then you ask yourself, why do I have to go through this every day? If I
sleep a siesta, I have the same feeling when I wake up. As in the morning. Life is one
continuous going, irrespective of what happens to physicality.
我的灵魂有多少时间，花在其他维度上，我记得其中一部分与人的肉体有关。然后我必须
把所有的东西都带到肉体的维度中。然后你问自己，为什么我每天都要经历这些？如果我
睡午觉，我醒来时也会有同样的感觉。就像早上一样。生命是一个不断前进的过程，不管
肉体发生了什么。

So, you ask yourself, why am I here? Why am I supposed to witness from what I see,
what I am? And what is the purpose? Or have I been brought here to bring that change,
that difference, that unconditional love and giving. (1:36). Not to jump out every time
that, "oh, I'm the hero." It's to be there that you're there to make a change at that point.
所以，你问自己，我为什么在这里？为什么我要见证我所看到的，我是什么？目的是什
么？或者我被带到这里是为了带来那种改变，那种差异，那种无条件的爱和给予。( 1:
36).不要每次都跳出来说，“哦，我是英雄。”在那里，你就在那里，在那个点上做出
改变。

I was on board of a plane years ago. And the captain, or the air hostess asked, are there
any medical doctors on board? And turned around, and there was a body on the floor in
the center. And there was a guy actually doing whatever he was doing, to get life back in. And
the hostess said to the man, can you please get up? We need a doctor. He said,
Madam I'm the doctor. I don't need to shout. Let me do my job. We don't need to shout
and howl.
几年前我在飞机上。机长或空中小姐问：“飞机上有医生吗？”转过身，中间的地板上
有一具尸体。有一个人确实在做他正在做的事情，让生活恢复正常。女主人对男人
说：“你能起来吗？”我们需要医生。他说，夫人，我是医生。我不需要喊。让我做我
的工作。我们不需要大喊大叫。

But the reason is, why is that man on board for that purpose? Why we are on board of the
cycle of life at this time and point? Why our Soul wasn't created 100 years ago? And not
100 years to come? Why us as a Soul of the human race are here, at this time when the
change is coming? What have the Soul of our forefathers have done, to be here to witness
the change this time? And what do we do? How do we react to this accident, that we are
brought here to the Soul of our Creator and forefathers to witness the change?
但原因是，为什么那个人在船上是为了那个目的？为什么我们在这个时候和这个点上的
生命周期？为什么我们的灵魂不是 100 年前创造的？而不是未来的 100 年？为什么我们作
为人类的灵魂在这里，在这个改变即将到来的时候？我们祖先的灵魂做了什么，在这里
见证这一次的变化？我们该怎么做？我们如何应对这一意外，我们被带到我们的造物主
和祖先的灵魂面前，见证这一变化？

How much of what we do will bring benefit? And how much we do will bring hinder? And then
you ask yourself, (1:38). why do you need to go to space to see and witness. You're now
witnessing the biggest change ever in humanity and the rest of the Creation
for the Universe, as the Earth is the seed, is the nursery of the Soul of the Creation. And
unfortunately, it's not the only nursery, sad to say.
我们所做的事情能带来多少好处？我们做了多少会带来阻碍？然后你问自己，（1：
38）。为什么你需要去太空去看和见证。你们现在正在见证人类和宇宙其他造物有史以
来最大的变化，因为地球是种子，是造物灵魂的托儿所。不幸的是，这不是唯一的托儿
所。

The evidence of it is, we don't see the stars and galaxies fighting each other. Except
where the man has been, by mistake brought the STP into creation of physicality of the
planet, like Earth.
它的证据是，我们没有看到恒星和星系互相争斗。除了人类曾经去过的地方，错误地将
STP 带入了行星的物质性创造，就像地球一样。

The "Soul creator" of this planet had the streak of wrong (doing) in it when he arrived to
be created. And he created the ？? STM, with the same behavior as his. If you give it
short, then it is attached to you. Then you can do what you like. "I kept the man short
from knowledge of the receiving energy of the Universe to live. So he's always attached
to me, to the physicality of my Earth. I feed him with little life of the cat, the dog and the
sheep. And he's depending on me, so I could ？?."
这个星球的“灵魂创造者”在他被创造的时候就有了错误（行为）的倾向。他创造了？?
STM，与他的行为相同。如果你给它短，那么它是附在你身上的。然后你可以做你喜欢的
事。我不让这个人知道接受宇宙的能量来生活。所以他总是依附于我，依附于我地球的
物质性。我用猫、狗和羊的小生命喂养他。他依赖我，所以我可以。?."

Now you understand why we put CO2 and Gans's into the rivers in the air, and the seas,
to change that essence of the wrong from ？? most of the generation of his essence of
creation. He made you to depend on it for you to be part of it. (1:40). Now we give
enough that man does not ?? have dependency, and become free from the shackles of
killing. It became one rose with a lot of thorns on it, and it was spreading in too many
places, the seed of it. Now we correct the baits, the first rose, and then you won't see the
现在你明白为什么我们把二氧化碳和甘斯放进空气中的河流和海洋中，来改变错误的本
质了吗？?他创作的精华大多是代。他让你依赖它，让你成为它的一部分。( 1: 40).现
在我们给了足够的人没有？拥有依赖，并从杀戮的枷锁中解脱出来。它变成了一朵玫
瑰，上面有很多刺，它在太多的地方蔓延，它的种子。现在我们纠正诱饵，第一个玫
瑰，然后你就看不到了。
rest to do the same. You'll enjoy the beauty of the rose without its thorns. The STM
created in the dimension of the Creation, without the killing.
休息做同样的事情。你会欣赏到没有刺的玫瑰的美丽。在创造的维度中创造的
STM，没有杀戮。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. The Sun is releasing plasma at an intensity never seen before. Could you guide us
better about this knowledge? We thank you for your attention.
问：..太阳正在以前所未有的强度释放等离子体。你能更好地指导我们这方面的知识吗？
我们感谢您的关注。

K- This is part of the cycle of the Sun, it happens on a regular basis. In some parts of its
cycle it's much intenser, because of its structure. And because of, is, what I call, mono
matter energetic condition, we see this. The center of the Sun, if you've seen your Gans's
and the amount of energy used, should be freezing. Should be normal temperature as
what we call, (1:42). balance between the hot and cold.
这是太阳周期的一部分，它定期发生。在其周期的某些部分，由于其结构，它的强度要大
得多。因为，我称之为，单物质能量状态，我们看到了这个。太阳的中心，如果你已经看
到了你的甘斯和使用的能量，应该是冻结的。应该是我们所说的正常温度（1：42）。冷
热平衡。

As the rays go further, and they become fields, and in interaction with the fields of the
Sun itself on the surface, and compression of the galaxy fields on the Solar System, the
intensity of the light from it changes. Let me explain to you in a very simple way. It's not
all dependent on what's inside the Sun, it a lot depends on the position of our galaxy too. You
have a hydrogen as H, actually it starts as a single plasma, then become a single
plasma of H, with interaction to stability becomes Deuterium. Interaction of the
Deuterium (H2) with the H itself again leads to Tritium (H3). Then, these still interact in
different levels. And at the end, you will have all plasma fields.
当光线传播得更远时，它们就变成了场，在与太阳表面的场的相互作用中，以及在太阳系
的星系场的压缩中，来自它的光的强度发生了变化。让我用一种非常简单的方式向你解
释。这并不完全取决于太阳内部的情况，它也很大程度上取决于我们星系的位置。你有一
个氢作为氢，实际上它开始是一个单一的等离子体，然后变成一个单一的氢等离子体，与
稳定性相互作用变成氘。氘（H2）与氢本身的相互作用再次导致氚（H3）。然后，这些仍
然在不同的层面上相互作用。最后，你会得到所有的等离子体场。

In the center is more or less, if you go in the center. If you ever look inside the dynamic
reactors. Rick used to do a lot of it years ago, we could see empty space (a bubble in
center of rotating ball) and we saw Gans's. That is the balance of the fields, it's the same
as here. So the center of the high speed or balance speed plasmas like Earth, is hollow. By nature
the Sun is hollow. By nature, we see it in dynamic reactors. If Rick digs into
historical videos we have, we always seen it. If he puts it on the screen later on. So there's
no difference.
在中心是或多或少的，如果你走在中心。如果你曾经看过动态反应堆的内部。里克几年前
做了很多，我们可以看到空的空间（旋转球中心的气泡），我们看到了甘斯的。这是场的
平衡，和这里一样。因此，像地球这样的高速或平衡速度等离子体的中心是中空的。太阳
本质上是空心的。从本质上讲，我们在动态反应器中看到了它。如果里克深入研究我们的
历史视频，我们总是看到它。如果他稍后把它放在屏幕上。所以没有区别。

It's the field forces of the Gans's, (1:44). and the water of Gans's, which is the H base. So it
creates that central cavity (bubble) what we call, full of plasma of high intensity. So,
in this position, as the what we call, as the fields grow deeper in, outside, in interaction
with the fields of the Solar System, and compression of what we call, the galaxial fields
on Earth, on the Solar System, the intensity of the fields changes.
这是甘斯的野战部队，（1：44）。还有甘斯的水，也就是 H 基。所以它产生了我们所说
的中央空腔（气泡），充满了高强度的等离子体。所以，在这个位置，正如我们所说的，
随着磁场在内部和外部变得更深，在与太阳系磁场的相互作用中，以及我们所说的地球上
的伽罗瓦磁场在太阳系上的压缩，磁场的强度发生了变化。

So, here somewhere, we create helium, but in fact the helium is combination of
deuterium. It's the 2 Deuterium in plasma condition behave like ？?. So in essence, they
become a bit heavier, slower, with the higher intensity of the fields coming, the
interaction of the surface fields with the fields coming creates the light.
所以，在这里的某个地方，我们创造了氦，但实际上氦是氘的组合。这是 2 氘在等离子体
条件下的表现。?.所以本质上，它们变得更重，更慢，随着更高强度的场的到来，表面场
与场的相互作用产生了光。

Now, we only look at the surface of the Sun. If the scientists understand this, and start
looking on the pressures of the galaxy, on the whole Solar System, then we see why
sometimes the Sun is more radiant, releases more radiation, and sometimes less. Very
little has to do. The spots on the Sun has a lot to do with the rotation of this matter state
liquid plasma, which is again, here on Earth, we call it, a water. But on the Sun it's
helium particles, in a way, with the deuterium, and whatever is on the top. And creates
that light.
现在，我们只看太阳的表面。如果科学家们理解了这一点，并开始研究星系的压力，整个
太阳系的压力，那么我们就会明白为什么有时太阳辐射更强，释放更多的辐射，有时则更
少。需要做的很少。太阳上的黑子与这种物质状态的旋转有很大关系液态等离子体，在地
球上，我们称之为水。但在太阳上，它是氦粒子，在某种程度上，与氘，以及顶部的任何
东西。并创造了这种光。

This blackest dark spots on the Sun is to do with the internal structure. (1:46). But the
field radiation, massive field radiations, which you see in cycles, is on the galaxial
pressure on the Solar System. And the scientists always looking, because they don't
understand it, what happens inside, that it increases. We have to look what our galaxy is
putting pressure on the shell. It's like a balloon. You have a balloon hanging perfectly,
you get it and you push it. So it takes different shapes. In that push, if you put a ball
inside another, you see it moves different places. If you have another balloon inside this
balloon. So our Sun is a balloon in its own atmosphere. And the amount of radiation we
see, is the pressures of the galaxy, in part. When the pressure reduces, opens up, we see
higher fields. And sometimes when the compression comes, we see again, different
fields. Man has not observed yet.
太阳上最黑的黑点与内部结构有关。( 1: 46).但是场辐射，大量的场辐射，你在周期中
看到的，是在太阳系的星轴压力上。科学家们一直在寻找，因为他们不了解它，里面发生
了什么，它增加了。我们必须看看我们的星系对外壳施加了什么压力。就像气球一样。你
有一个完美悬挂的气球，你拿到它，然后推它。所以它有不同的形状。在那个推力中，如
果你把一个球放进另一个球里，你会看到它移动到不同的地方。如果你在这个气球里面有
另一个气球。所以我们的太阳在它自己的大气层中是一个气球。我们看到的辐射量，在某
种程度上是星系的压力。当压力降低，打开时，我们看到更高的磁场。有时当压缩来临
时，我们会再次看到不同的领域。人类还没有观察到。

This create rays above and in the dimension of C14 ？? odor. With this compression
usually happens during the time when Sun comes across his twin. Near each other. They
create that compression on each other, which releases a lot of fields, we see a lot of
inward motion.
这将在 C14 的上方和维度中创建光线。?气味。这种压缩通常发生在太阳遇到他的双胞胎
的时候。彼此靠近。它们在彼此之间产生压缩，这释放了很多场，我们看到了很多向内的
运动。

If you look at the motion of Cosmic dust in our Solar System, you can say which way the
pressure is coming. Is it coming from inside out? Or is it created from outside in? Or is it
the combination of the transition between one to the other? Our scientists look at the
flares, but they don't understand this principle.
如果你观察我们太阳系中宇宙尘埃的运动，你可以说压力是从哪个方向来的。它是从里面
出来的吗？还是由外而内创造出来的？还是两者之间过渡的组合？我们的科学家看着耀
斑，却不明白这个原理。

When we travel beyond the Solar System, we see it we understand. (1:48). Oh, this is a
time when Earth, or what you call it, the Sun releasing a lot of fields. Because now it
opens up that magnetic field pressure on the Solar System is less. When he expands it
allows more fields to come out? Or does it come out of the compression, that we see
mainly out of this compression, deuterium coming out. Where in the other condition of
the what you call it, reduction in pressure, we see more particles than actual fields. ？?
That's what ？? we call rays.
当我们在太阳系之外旅行时，我们看到它，我们理解它。( 1: 48).哦，这是地球，或者
你所说的太阳释放大量能量场的时候。因为现在它打开了，太阳系的磁场压力变小了。当
他扩展时，它允许更多的字段出来。或者它是从压缩中出来的，我们主要看到的是从压缩
中出来的，氘。在你们所说的另一种情况下，即压强减小的情况下，我们看到的粒子比实
际的场更多。？?那是什么？?我们叫射线。

It's all, we talk about this, why it's happening. Because we are looking in a small part of
the equation, we have to look at the full equation. And even our galaxy is subject to this. And
sometimes when this compression of the space comes from outside, leads to
destruction of the full galaxies. Out of nowhere galaxies just explode. Because the field
release is so high compared to the compression, and then inside pushes outside and just
expands, explodes in pieces.
我们都在谈论这件事，为什么会发生。因为我们只看方程的一小部分，所以我们必须看整
个方程。甚至我们的星系也受此影响。有时，当空间的压缩来自外部时，会导致整个星系
的毁灭。不知从哪里冒出来的星系爆炸了。因为与压缩相比，场释放是如此之高，然后内
部推动外部，只是膨胀，爆炸成碎片。

We see this as .. what we call, "travelers of the Universe." And we usually empty these
places. You see a rush of. It's like a "SOS" you call it. I've explained this before. You see
an accident, earthquake and what you call it, in Turkey, we all go there to help. We have
the same kind of principles but in a different scale, different way, in the Universe. We see
the time when the explosion happens, and like a GPS, and the Universe, the map is
drawn. And civilizations are aware of other civilizations, and they just go and extract.
我们认为这是..我们称之为“宇宙旅行者”。我们通常会清空这些地方。你会看到一股。
就像你所说的“ SOS ”。我以前解释过这个。你看到一场事故，地震和你所说的，在土
耳其，我们都去那里帮忙。在宇宙中，我们有同样的原则，但以不同的尺度，不同的方
式。我们看到爆炸发生的时间，就像全球定位系统和宇宙一样，地图被绘制出来。文明意
识到其他文明，他们只是去提取。

We have many refugees in the Universe when the Man opens his eyes, and some of them
are amongst us. (1:50). They lost their home in Turkey, and they move out, they end up
in England, they end up in Australia. The same earthquake happens in the structure of the
galaxies and Universes. A few times in the past, Universes have come under this
condition, and what I call, the citizens had to be emptied, removed, what you call, to
safety of other Universes. And we see different intelligence amongst them. This is
something you learn.
当人睁开眼睛时，我们在宇宙中有许多难民，其中一些就在我们中间。( 1: 50).他们失
去了在土耳其的家，然后搬出去，最后去了英国，最后去了澳大利亚。同样的地震也发生
在星系和宇宙的结构中。在过去有几次，宇宙在这种情况下出现，我所说的，公民必须被
清空，移走，你所说的，到其他宇宙的安全。我们在他们中间看到了不同的智慧。这是你
学到的东西。

It's the same, life exists within the Sun. If you understand, that the combination of the
rays interaction leads to creation of C14, and their internal interaction leads to O and the
H, cycle of 4 lives. And then with their environmental characteristics, then you
understand there is a life within the center of the Sun from interaction of the fields of
itself.
这是一样的，生命存在于太阳内部。如果你明白，射线相互作用的组合导致了 C14 的产
生，它们的内部相互作用导致了 O 和 H，4 个生命的循环。然后根据它们的环境特征，你
就会明白在太阳的中心有一个生命，从它自身的场的相互作用中。

If he (Sun) can manage to create life on Earth and other dimensions, so it has the same
capability to do within himself. But the life in that level is of a different intelligence,
different understanding, less dependent and more reliable. It's not exclusivity, it's more
inclusively, all are included.
如果他（太阳）能够设法在地球和其他维度上创造生命，那么它也有同样的能力在自己体
内创造生命。但那个层次的生命具有不同的智力，不同的理解力，依赖性更小，更可靠。
这不是排他性，而是包容性，所有人都包括在内。

Any other question? (1:52).

还有其他问题吗？( 1: 52).

Q: .. Good morning, Mr. Keshe. In the 475 Knowledge Seekers Workshop (KSW), you
said that, quote, the energy released by the conversion of calcium (Ca) from the Cosmic
rays and C14 can be used to create other necessary elements such as potassium, iron, zinc
and copper. So, the question is, then why are we deficient in these elements in the body?
问：..早上好，凯什先生。在 475 知识探索者研讨会（KSW）上，你说，宇宙射线中的钙
（Ca）和 C14 转化释放的能量可以用来创造其他必要的元素，如钾、铁、锌和铜。那么，
问题是，为什么我们体内缺乏这些元素呢？

K- We are not deficient. Our body uses these very efficiently, but sometimes due to miss
functioning in part they become inefficient. And there are stations to create these, and
there are facilities to do this. To give fields, to increase. When you get pregnant doctors
always say, I give you B9, have a folic acid. This folic acid and B12 for a rapid change, is
done in a few places in the body of the Man. Lymph nodes, that's why you get cancer.
我们并不缺乏。我们的身体非常有效地使用这些，但有时由于部分功能缺失，它们变得效
率低下。有一些站点可以创建这些，也有一些设施可以做到这一点。要给田，要增加。当
你怀孕的时候，医生总是说，我给你 B9，吃叶酸。这种叶酸和维生素 B12 的快速变化，
是在人体的几个地方完成的。淋巴结，这就是你得癌症的原因。

Where the change, efficiency change, absorption, conversion, is not effective. Instead of
releasing a plasma in the strength of the copper, (1:54). that can be used to become a
structure, is suddenly comes to become solidified, it becomes a cancer cell, or becomes a
seed for a solid structure we call, cancer. If you correct the conversion of the lymph
conversion, and in thalamus and thymus at the same time, it will never happen. Everything works
accordingly.
哪里变了，效率变了，吸收不了，转化不了。而不是以铜的强度释放等离子体（1：
54）。它可以被用来成为一种结构，突然变得固化，它成为一个癌细胞，或者成为一种我
们称之为癌症的固体结构的种子。如果你纠正了淋巴的转换，并且在丘脑和胸腺同时转
换，它就永远不会发生。一切都在相应地运作。

If you can understand this, you go to the position of everlasting life. Because you convert
what you need at a point to equal amount, what you need in dimension of physicality. You can
change the strength of it to increase the what we call, conversion from STP to
STM that it feeds the STM much faster, and live in the dimension of the Soul.
如果你能理解这一点，你就能获得永生。因为你把你在某一点上所需要的转换成相等的数
量，你在物质维度上所需要的。你可以改变它的强度来增加我们所说的，从 STP 到 STM 的
转换，它更快地喂养 STM，并生活在灵魂的维度中。
We do that in the time of fear. In the time of high temperature, when the cell of the brain
become loose, we allow the Soul, we call it, hallucination. It's actually Man never
understood. This is the time the shackle of the physical calcium in every cell of the brain
loosens up, the Soul travels. But because man doesn't understand, oh, it's high
temperatures, he is hallucinating. It's actually the Soul. It's like going to sleep. It's like
when they take drugs.
我们在恐惧的时候这样做。在高温的时候，当大脑的细胞变得松散时，我们允许灵魂，
我们称之为幻觉。事实上，人类永远不会理解。这是大脑每个细胞中的物理钙的枷锁放
松的时候，灵魂旅行。但因为人类不明白，哦，这是高温，他产生了幻觉。实际上是灵
魂。就像要睡觉一样。就像他们吸毒一样。

We call it, hallucination, but in fact the structure opens up, it cannot hold on to confining
the Soul. So whole Soul goes out and in that dimension does everything. It's like when
we call, schizophrenic, what I call, the "beautiful people." We create a condition for two
to appear. (1:56).
我们称之为，幻觉，但事实上，结构打开了，它不能坚持限制灵魂。所以整个灵魂都出
去了，在那个维度里做了所有的事情。这就像我们所说的，精神分裂，我所说的，“美
丽的人”。我们创造了两个出现的条件。( 1: 56).

So, it's a habit of Man not understanding the process of Creation. This is why we keep on
telling you, we teach you everything, that nobody outside becomes a magician for Man. It's only
time when man would like a magic to be played on him, and he tries to
understand, "ok, I like to see it, but I understand it." We ignore it, or we don't understand
it.
所以，这是人类不理解创造过程的一种习惯。这就是为什么我们不断告诉你，我们教你
一切，没有人在外面成为人类的魔术师。只有当人类想要在他身上施展魔法的时候，他
才会试着去理解，“好吧，我喜欢看，但我理解。”我们忽视它，或者我们不理解它。

Have you ever played a game with your children, where they stand next to you and you
shout, "where are you?" And he's (your child) is standing next to you and says, "I'm here,
I'm here." (And you say, "I can't see you. But I can hear you." And the poor little boy is
jumping his leg off and his lung out. Papa, I'm here. But I can't see you, but I can hear
you. We play the ignorant, or out of the ignorance we're trying to prove something. Our
own ignorance.
你有没有和你的孩子玩过一个游戏，他们站在你旁边，你大喊：“你在哪里？”他（你
的孩子）站在你旁边说：“我在这里，我在这里。”（你说，我看不见你。但我能听到
你。那个可怜的小男孩跳下了腿，肺也跳出来了。爸爸，我在这里。但我看不见你，但
我能听到你。我们扮演无知的人，或者出于无知，我们试图证明一些东西。我们自己的
无知。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: Okay, there's a second part of Alexander's question. And you may have answered it. But I'll
go through with it. It says, also in the 475 Knowledge Seekers Workshop, you
said that, quote, the body cells are constantly being replaced. And you need this calcium
like the seed to make new cells. So the question is, so if the cells are being replaced, why
do we age?
问：好的，亚历山大的问题还有第二部分。你可能已经回答了。但我会坚持到底。它
说，也是在 475 知识探索者研讨会上，你说，引用，身体细胞不断被替换。你需要像种子
一样的钙来制造新的细胞。所以问题是，如果细胞被替换，为什么我们会变老？

K- Because we don't produce the same strength fields. And our body due to the rustiness
of the channels in the bone, (1:58). don't create the, or the perfect one. It's like a car you
use too much. You get the exhaust cluttered with all sorts of things, it doesn't make the
same noise and you creates a back pressure into the engine. And it's the same.
因为我们不能产生相同的强度场。和我们的身体，由于在骨头中的渠道生锈，（1：
58）。不要创造完美的那个。就像一辆你用得太多的车。你会发现排气管里塞满了各种
各样的东西，它不会发出同样的噪音，而且你会给发动机产生背压。这是一样的。

We do not produce over the length of time, as the bone channels closes, or change, or get
used too much, release the same strength calcium that it becomes the seed. And this is
one of the reasons you call it, "my immune system doesn't work properly." Because
you're not releasing the right calcium strength, because you have to release the right
calcium strength to create, to gather around it the right plasmatic fields for certain jobs.
我们不会在长时间内产生，因为骨通道关闭，或改变，或使用过多，释放相同强度的
钙，它成为种子。这就是你称之为“我的免疫系统不能正常工作”的原因之一。因为你
没有释放正确的钙浓度，因为你必须释放正确的钙浓度来创造，在它周围聚集正确的等
离子场来完成某些工作。
This is why when it comes to certain conditions, when you use Gans's, you see, "oh, it
changed, I used ..." No, all you did, you introduced the plasma to what was missing in the
bone marrow. That's all it is.
这就是为什么在某些情况下，当你使用甘斯时，你会看到，“哦，它变了，我用
了……”不，你所做的一切，你把血浆引入了骨髓中缺失的东西。仅此而已。

You can stay young for thousands of years. You can live for thousands of years, just
move from one physicality to another. I've done that for a long time. I was explaining this
one to one of our Knowledge Seekers past couple of days ago. I went to my aunt, the last
time I was in Iran. And I said to my aunt, you're the only one who can answer me. You
are the last one standing of the family, tells me the truth. I said to her, who's my father,
and who's my mother? She said, you're asking a stupid question. I said, I know. I don't
come from this family, I have all the evidence of it.
你可以永葆青春千年。你可以活几千年，只是从一个肉体转移到另一个肉体。我已经做了很
长时间了。几天前，我向我们的一位知识寻求者解释了这一点。上次我在伊朗的时候，我去
了我姑妈那里。我对阿姨说，你是唯一能回答我的人。你是家族的最后一人，告诉我真相。
我对她说，谁是我的父亲，谁是我的母亲？她说，你在问一个愚蠢的问题。我说，我知道。
我不是来自这个家庭，我有所有的证据。

But are we? (2:00). Or we just take position on the dimension of physicality and turn it
that in the future operates on the Soul which is host.
但我们是吗？( 2: 00).或者我们只是在物质层的维度上采取立场，并在未来将其转变为对
作为宿主的灵魂起作用。

And when I gave her the evidence she said, Mehran I have no answer. So you can always
live and move from one dimension of physicality to another. But you have to share. You
can't just take over because you can. You always ask. And if you're allowed and you're
given, you live in the new dimension.
当我给她证据时，她说，麦兰，我没有答案。所以你可以一直活着，从物质的一个维度到另
一个维度。但你必须分享。你不能只是接管，因为你可以。你总是问。如果你被允许，你被
给予，你就生活在新的维度中。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. I have a question to the feeding. When we had the daily meetings in feeding, I
decided to, not to eat anymore, or at least to try it out. And then I started two days not
eating, three days not eating, four days not eating, and till now, and it feels very good. I
do it the first time in my life and it's a great experience. And also I lose my weight and
then the next days or a week, (2:02). the point will come where I should reach the normal
weight of the body, so no fat anymore. Then the question comes for me, I don't know if I
got fed through fields, or if it's just a fasting thing and because…
问：..我对喂食有个问题。当我们每天开会时，我决定不再吃东西，或者至少尝试一下。然
后我开始两天不吃，三天不吃，四天不吃直到现在，感觉非常好。这是我人生中第一次这么
做，这是一次很棒的经历。我也在减肥，然后接下来的几天或一周，（2：02）。我应该达
到身体的正常体重，所以不再有脂肪。然后我的问题来了，我不知道我是不是在田地里吃
的，或者这只是一种禁食，因为…

K- For how long haven't you eaten?

你多久没吃东西了？
Q: 16 days.
问：16 天。
K- Are you still taking water?
你还在喝水吗？
Q: Yes, I try to drink as much as possible, but I forget a lot of times.
问：是的，我尽量多喝，但很多时候我都忘了。

K- People who go in this direction lose up to 20 percent of body weight. We've seen this,
we've seen this amongst Chinese too. But you have to understand. I always said, people
who've been eating meat and whatever, suddenly decided to become vegetarian. Overnight, I'm not
going to eat anymore meat from today. And then it feels good in the
first few weeks, but five or ten years down the line they run into problem. You cannot
drive a car at 150 kilometers an hour and then put the brake on and expect to come out of
it alive, or at least don't damage something. You have to slow down, you have to speed to
the point that is manageable for both, physicality and the Soul.
朝这个方向走的人最多可以减掉 20%的体重。我们已经看到了这一点，我们在中国人中也看
到了这一点。但你必须明白。我总是说，那些一直吃肉的人，突然决定成为素食主义者。一
夜之间，从今天开始我再也不吃肉了。最初几周感觉很好，但五年或十年后，他们遇到了问
题。你不能以每小时 150 公里的速度开车，然后踩下刹车，期望活着出来，或者至少不损坏
什么东西。你必须放慢速度，你必须加速到身体和灵魂都可以控制的程度。

If you don't eat physically, have you learned how to absorb energy through the Soul? (2:04). A lot
of people politicians who go into prison they do fasting, they last for 40
days, 50 days, and then they run into all sort of problems. Or is the water your drink
contains enough minerals that replaces, replenishes the body need. Up to a limit this can
be done.
如果你不吃身体，你有没有学会如何通过灵魂来吸收能量？( 2: 04).很多进监狱的政客都
会绝食，持续 40 天，50 天，然后他们会遇到各种各样的问题。或者你喝的水含有足够的矿
物质，可以补充身体所需。在一定限度内，这是可以做到的。

But you have to learn, if you go through this process what you're going. Can you learn,
have you learned how to expand your Soul? It's not just eating. So you have to teach. Don't go from
eating steak every day to no meat tomorrow and become a vegetarian, you
create a mayhem. But you have to find other things, other energies which can replace the
meat you used to eat. And as part of human body, you can feed yourself internally, that
you don't cause any damage. And that's what, have you learned to tap into Universal
energies, that internally and externally you absorbed what you need.
但你必须学会，如果你经历了这个过程，你会得到什么。你能学会吗？你学会如何扩展你
的灵魂了吗？不仅仅是吃。所以你必须教。不要从每天吃牛排到明天不吃肉，变成一个素
食主义者，你制造了一场混乱。但是你必须找到其他的东西，其他的能量来代替你过去吃
的肉。作为人体的一部分，你可以在体内进食，这样你就不会造成任何伤害。那就是，你
是否学会了利用宇宙能量，从内部和外部吸收你所需要的东西。

This is what you're going to do in the space. Fasting and the starvation and all sorts of
things is not the answer, unless you have learned how to convert energies to what your
body needs. We have Chinese who make Gans's of vegetables, and meat, and whatever,
and they put it .. around the glass and they drink the water from glass.
这就是你在太空中要做的事情。禁食和饥饿以及各种各样的事情都不是答案，除非你已经
学会了如何将能量转化为你身体所需要的。我们有中国人，他们用蔬菜、肉和其他东西做
甘斯，他们把它放在..在玻璃杯周围，他们喝玻璃杯里的水。

But in a way, with the right salinity in the glass, that it absorbs the right energies for their
body. 0.9% or 0.09%, depends on how you measure it. (2:06). Salinity gives the energy
absorption to the blood of the Man, because that's the salinity of your body, what you call
it, blood. That saltiness you taste.
但在某种程度上，在玻璃杯中有合适的盐度，它能为他们的身体吸收合适的能量。0.9%或
0.09%，取决于你如何衡量它。( 2: 06).盐度让人的血液吸收能量，因为这是你身体的盐
度，你称之为血液。你尝到的咸味。

And you have to be able to connect the two together, to feel the Soul inside you. And to
feel the Soul outside you. I was explaining to one of our Knowledge Seekers yesterday,
how you can do this. And we all have it, it's given to us by birth, we all have it as part of
constitution of our life. And we don't know it, but it's one of the tools that you can
expand, move, and then move out your Soul. I've explained this in one of the teachings.
你必须能够将两者联系在一起，去感受你内心的灵魂。去感受你外面的灵魂。昨天我向我
们的一位知识寻求者解释，你如何做到这一点。我们都拥有它，它是与生俱来的，我们都
拥有它作为我们生命构成的一部分。我们不知道，但它是你可以扩展，移动，然后移出你
的灵魂的工具之一。我在其中一条教义中解释了这一点。

This is your physicality, and let's do it the other way, because it's better. This is your
physicality, this is your head, this is your arm and leg, and this is your body. This is your
Soul. But you remember that story about the H having a proton and electron. Man has the
same. In fact, if I put the electron here you understand more. You have a Soul here. (2:08). And the
life in all animal creatures, even the plants and trees has created what you
call, your ovaries or testicles. Where you have the seed in conjunction for the next Soul,
you call it, your child to be created.
这是你的身体，让我们用另一种方式，因为它更好。这是你的身体，这是你的头，这是你
手臂和腿，这是你们的身体。这是你的灵魂。但你还记得那个关于 H 有一个质子和一个电子
的故事。男人也一样。事实上，如果我把电子放在这里，你会理解得更多。你在这里有灵
魂。( 2: 08).所有动物的生命，甚至植物和树木都创造了你所谓的卵巢或睾丸。在那里你
拥有与下一个灵魂结合的种子，你称之为，你的孩子被创造。

So in fact, if you look, Man has a power to create the expansion of his Soul. If you
understand this, it's the same as the electron. The biggest Soul sits within, ？? the small
Souls, and we create it every month. To make sure it's the right balance, each testicle is
responsible to create a Soul.
所以事实上，如果你仔细看，人类有一种力量来创造他灵魂的扩张。如果你理解了这个，
它和电子是一样的。最大的灵魂坐在里面，？?小灵魂，我们每个月都在创造它。为了确保
正确的平衡，每个睾丸都负责创造一个灵魂。

Something which I explained recently is, if you understand the physiology of the Man. We produce
eggs or a sperm from one of our ovaries or testicles and the other one goes
for rest. It's the same when we breathe every hour. One of the nostril closes and the other
lung goes under efficiency to repair. So you have that process of the Creation
continuously with you.
我最近解释的是，如果你了解男人的生理。我们从一个卵巢或睾丸中产生卵子或精子，另
一个去休息。我们每小时呼吸一次也是一样。其中一个鼻孔关闭，另一个肺处于有效修复
状态。所以你不断地拥有创造的过程。
And if you can expand this and do what we do with you, you can expand the body. Then
you can tap into the universal energy. We do the same with you when we give you the
headphones. You have then to understand. (2:10). Then you understand how Man in the
future learns to create the "children of the Soul," and not children of the physicality.
如果你能扩展这个，做我们对你做的事，你就能扩展身体。然后你就可以利用宇宙能
量。当我们给你耳机的时候，我们对你做同样的事情。然后你必须明白。( 2: 10).那么
你就会明白未来的人类如何学会创造“灵魂的孩子”，而不是肉体的孩子。
That's how the child of Mitra was born. Man in those positions carries no eggs and no
sperms.
米特拉的孩子就是这样出生的。处于这种状态的人没有卵子，也没有精子。

And if you understand this process, you learn how to expand to tap in Universe energies,
and you still feed. You don't say, I haven't eaten for 16 days. Because now you run into
trouble, because you're relying on the physicality. But if you can learn this that you can
expand this, then you say, I'm in what you call it, "hybrid." I use the physicality of the
Man to tap into the energy of the Universe. Then that will feed what the physicality
needs. And we all have the mechanism to this.
如果你理解了这个过程，你就学会了如何扩展以利用宇宙能量，你仍然可以进食。你别
说，我已经 16 天没吃东西了。因为现在你遇到了麻烦，因为你依赖于身体。但如果你能
学到这一点，你可以扩展它，然后你说，我在你所说的“混合”中。我用人的肉体来挖掘
宇宙的能量。然后，这将满足肉体的需要。我们都有这样的机制。

In another way, every cell of our body has that mechanism. Depends where it's short you
can feed it. Don't we do this with (Gans) patches with you? We connect your Soul to
where the damage is, through the field strength of the patches.
另一方面，我们身体的每个细胞都有这种机制。这取决于它在哪里短，你可以喂它。我们
不是用（甘斯）补丁和你一起做这个吗？我们通过补丁的场强，将你的灵魂连接到伤害所
在的地方。

So when you go on this, what you call, not eating, are you on the, what we call, track to
crash the physicality? (2:12). Or have you learned how to feed it from the Soul? Then
you become a Man of space. I don't even need to breathe because I take from the energy
of the Universe, for what it gives me, the air of the Earth. This is why in a few teachings
before I said, if you all jump ？? in the space from the Space Lab you all die, because you
haven't learned the conversion. How to tap into Universal fields.
所以当你这样做的时候，你所说的，不吃东西，你是在我们所说的，摧毁肉体的轨道上
吗？( 2: 12).还是你已经学会了如何从灵魂中喂养它？然后你就变成了一个太空人。我
甚至不需要呼吸，因为我从宇宙的能量中获取，因为它给了我地球的空气。这就是为什么
我在前面的几个教导中说，如果你都跳了呢？?在太空实验室的太空中，你们都死了，因
为你们还没有学会转换。如何进入通用领域。

In the past few weeks I start explaining a lot of things on my private life, physical life
with you, there is a reason for it. You gradually understand, because you live by the
example. When you see it, you recognize it. When I tell you, when I wear the clothes I
feel the chill, then when you feel ？? ice cold, it's not there, my Soul has expanded. How
can I use it to feed myself?
在过去的几周里，我开始解释很多关于我私生活的事情，和你在一起的物质生活，这是有
原因的。你渐渐明白了，因为你生活的榜样。当你看到它时，你会认出它。当我告诉你，
当我穿上衣服时，我感到寒冷，然后当你感到？?冰冷，它不在那里，我的灵魂膨胀了。
我怎么能用它来养活自己呢？

I was explaining to one of the Knowledge Seekers in the past few days that I saw, I stood
as I explained last time, I saw the blueness of the eye of the Christ. Why? Because the
Soul moves out, and looks at the dimension of the physicality. This is what you have to
understand. And you can do the same with yourself.
在过去的几天里，我向一位知识寻求者解释，我站在那里，就像我上次解释的那样，我看
到了基督之眼的蓝色。为什么？因为灵魂向外移动，看着肉体的维度。这是你必须明白
的。你也可以对自己做同样的事。

When we send you to the Moon, as I've explained before, we package you in an
envelope. But this envelope needs a position of destiny, where to go to. (2:14). It has to
have his neutron somewhere. We send energy level of part of your Soul to the Moon,
does not matter where you find this balance. That's where you're going to end up.
当我们把你送上月球时，正如我之前解释的那样，我们把你装在一个信封里。但这个信封
需要一个命运的定位，去哪里。( 2: 14).它一定有他的中子。我们把你灵魂的一部分能
量水平送到月亮上，不管你在哪里找到这种平衡。这就是你的下场。
In the physical life, you go to go to cinema, you come out of the house, you get in the car,
you drive around the city in all roads till you get to the cinema. Now in the dimension of
the Soul, and the physicality of the Creation, we can do the same. Cinema has a energy
level balance. And that's where I tune myself to be (immediately go there). So if you go
on a diet, first learn how to feed yourself before you go on these excursions. Because
you'll find out that you arrived with the empty bag. And then they have to go all the way
back to fill it up.
在物质生活中，你去看电影，你从房子里出来，你坐进车里，你在城市的所有道路上开
车，直到你到达电影院。现在，在灵魂的维度和造物的物质性中，我们可以做同样的事
情。电影院有一个能量水平平衡。这就是我调整自己的地方（立即去那里）。因此，如果
你要节食，在你进行这些远足之前，首先要学会如何养活自己。因为你会发现你带着空袋
子来了。然后他们必须一路回去把它填满。

You know, it's very interesting. If you do it by will, we do it beautifully. If you do it by

pleasure, we still enjoy doing it. If you do it because we have to do it, when we come out
of it, we go amazingly greedy to do. You see this with Jewish fasting in Yom Kippur, and
you see this with Islamic world in the summertime, when the fasting falls in the summer. You
have only four or five hours of the sunset to the first sunrise, you have fasted for 19
hours. In that five times, it's the feast, time you eat as much as you can. But what about if
you learn when that time, 5 hours comes, I already learned to take from the energy of the
Universe, it doesn't matter if it's five hours or 15 hours in the winter. (2:16). This is what
you got to learn.
你知道，这很有趣。如果你按意愿做，我们就做得很漂亮。如果你是为了快乐而做这件
事，我们仍然喜欢这样做。如果你这样做是因为我们必须这样做，当我们走出来的时候，
我们会变得非常贪婪。你可以在犹太人的赎罪日禁食中看到这一点，你也可以在伊斯兰世
界的夏季禁食中看到这一点。从日落到第一次日出，你只有四五个小时，你已经禁食了 19
个小时。在这五个时间里，这是盛宴，你可以吃得越多越好。但如果你学会了，当 5 个小
时到来的时候，我已经学会了从宇宙中获取能量，不管是 5 个小时还是 15 个小时，在冬
天。( 2: 16).这就是你要学的。

And then you haven't eaten for 16 days, have you learned how to feed yourself through
the energies of the Universe? Or have you learned the way the Chinese done it? You
deliver the energy in the (Gans) water. If you eat distilled water, or drink water from the
well near you, which carries all combination within this, without being whatever, put in
the bottles. In our factory, there's a water well, the water we use there comes from our
own site. And water is so delicious, it's different than the water we buy in the tap. But is
the water contaminated? But because we are on top of the hill only can be from our land
more or less, what gathers on the hill and no chemicals are used. So it gives a pure.
然后你已经 16 天没吃东西了，你学会如何通过宇宙的能量来养活自己了吗？还是你学到
了中国人的做法？你在（甘斯）水中传递能量。如果你吃蒸馏水，或者喝你附近井里的
水，里面有所有的化合物，没有任何东西，把它们放进瓶子里。在我们的工厂里，有一口
水井，我们用的水来自我们自己的地方。水是如此美味，它不同于我们在水龙头里买的
水。但水被污染了吗？但因为我们在山顶上，只能或多或少地从我们的土地上收集，山上
没有使用任何化学品。所以它给出了一个纯粹的。

But is the mineral within the water of the mountain enough for what the body of the Man
needs? We need to tap into the reserves of the Universe and not into the reserves of this
planet. Or at least the energies of this planet, which are not needed and reserved. Then
you can go lifetime without eating.
但是，山中水中的矿物质是否足以满足人的身体所需？我们需要利用宇宙的储备，而不是
这个星球的储备。或者至少是这个星球的能量，这是不需要和保留的。然后你可以一辈子
不吃东西。

As I said, many Knowledge Seekers, since "dining with the Creator" have gone through a
lot of experiences and live different lives. And this is an example of it. (2:18). When we
invite you to a meeting, there is a purpose for it. It's for you to understand the ways, and
for you to comprehend what needs to be done, to be ready for the change. Many of you
who are attending all these meetings one after another. When we come to the end of it,
you will become the traveler of the Universe. You understand how to react, how to be. We are
getting out of 160 people around, attended dining with the Creator, a lot of
different emotions are feeling and ways of living.
正如我所说，自从“与造物主共进晚餐”以来，许多知识追求者经历了许多经历，过着不
同的生活。这就是一个例子。( 2: 18).当我们邀请你参加会议时，它是有目的的。这是
为了让你理解方法，让你理解需要做什么，为改变做好准备。你们中的许多人一个接一个
地参加所有这些会议。当我们走到它的尽头时，你将成为宇宙的旅行者。你知道如何反
应，如何存在。我们走出 160 人左右，与造物主共进晚餐，有很多不同的情感感受和生活
方式。

But what happened when you come on the table of the sitting with the world leaders? Some of
you are going to have the shock of your life in that meeting. And that is why we
do this? Why we invite you to sit with the world leaders? Because you come to
understand there is no leader. It's me who leads my life. But you have to learn it. It's me
who can tell the others, you're the same as me. Maybe you need me, for you to be a
leader. And then I'm the true leader, because I lead through justice, correctness.
但是当你坐在世界领导人的桌子上时，发生了什么？在那次会议上，你们中的一些人将会
受到生命的冲击。这就是我们这么做的原因？为什么我们邀请你和世界领导人坐在一起？
因为你开始明白没有领袖。是我主导我的生活。但你必须学会它。只有我才能告诉其他
人，你和我一样。也许你需要我，让你成为一个领导者。然后我是真正的领导者，因为我
通过正义和正确来领导。

And then what we did with the dinning with the what we call, Creator. You should have
realized by now that you are the Creator, because you created the condition. And the
然后我们和我们所谓的造物主共进晚餐。你现在应该已经意识到你是创造者，因为你创造
了条件。还有
process of all these meetings every month is to gradually, a large number of you, (2:20).
become the first "passengers of the Universe." Because you're going through the what we
call, learning process. But learn what you see compared to what it was before you go in,
it's what you've learned. Not accident, not coincident.
所有这些会议的过程，每个月都是逐渐的，大量的你，（2：20）。成为第一批“宇宙乘
客”。因为你正在经历我们所说的学习过程。但了解你所看到的与你进去之前相比，这是
你所学到的。不是意外，不是巧合。

Why did we ask you to come in for five days? It's for you every time to learn something
new in the dimension of the strength of your Soul. You came and took, what did you do
in the week when you came to give? What did you bring? What you enjoyed or what was
available but other ones to enjoy? I ?? don't like Chinese food, your Chinese ?? friends
should have brought pizza, because I only like pizza, the Italians didn't turn up today. When you
came on the table the second week you brought food and did you say, I
brought food, and what have you brought for me, that I enjoy? But you just brought in
because we said ?? to bring it in, and sit there.
我们为什么让你来五天？每一次都是为了让你在灵魂力量的维度上学到新的东西。你来
了，拿了，你来给的那一周你做了什么？你带了什么？你喜欢什么或什么是可用的，但其
他的享受？我？不喜欢中国菜，你的中国菜？朋友们应该带披萨来，因为我只喜欢披萨，
意大利人今天没有出现。当你第二周来到餐桌上时，你带来了食物，你有没有说，我带来
了食物，你给我带来了什么，我喜欢的？但你刚带进来是因为我们说？把它拿进来，然后
坐在那里。

A few times, in past couple of weeks you realized you're not connected. The channel is
not open. It was interesting to know how many of you tuned without the channel being
opened. Were you still there, are you were there to come in and show your ?? frock, what
I brought to everybody to eat? Or you learn to connect without? Would you share your
sweets, or whatever you brought to go to a party, if the party is not started, you're sitting
in the car with a friend, no, no, you can't have it till we go in? Or let's eat here, it's the
same as what we eat inside? (2:22). What about if you went to the wrong party? Do you
still sit in the car and starve and eat the sweetie in the box?
有几次，在过去的几周里，你意识到你没有连接。通道未打开。有趣的是，你们中有多少
人在没有打开频道的情况下进行了调谐。你还在那里吗？你在那里是为了进来展示你的
吗？弗罗克，我给大家带了什么吃的？或者你学会了没有连接？你会分享你的糖果，或者
你带去派对的任何东西吗，如果派对还没开始，你和朋友坐在车里，不，不，在我们进去
之前你不能吃？或者我们在这里吃，和我们在里面吃的一样。( 2: 22).如果你去错了派对
呢？你还坐在车里饿着肚子吃盒子里的糖果吗？

These are process, this is why we ask as many of you to turn up on the 24th. There is a
purpose for it. We don't put it in advance because then you come with the wrong image. You will
learn when you come through it. Like the way we've done with the dinning with
the Leaders or the Creator. I wonder how many more days you will last before you start
eating. Or have you learned to take from the Soul to feed, that you don't need, or you
have to learn the ？? type of conversion. But a lot of Chinese did but they didn't go to the
second phase of it. They moved from physical eating to the dimension of transferring
energy into the water and they drank the water, and they received the balance energy
what they need. Now what about changing those bottles you put outside to fill up the
energy in the cup that you drink the water, let those be the energy of the Universe. And
your body is 95% water. Come to conversion with it, without drinking it. Man has not
used to see the beauty within his own physical structure. Then, do you need to eat?
这些都是过程，这就是为什么我们要求你们尽可能多的人在 24 日出现。这是有目的的。我
们不会提前把它放进去，因为那样你就会带着错误的形象来。当你通过它的时候，你会学
到的。就像我们与领导者或创造者共进晚餐一样。我想知道在你开始吃东西之前，你还能
坚持多少天。或者你已经学会了从灵魂中获取食物，你不需要的，或者你必须学会？?转换
类型。但很多中国人去了，但他们没有去第二阶段。他们从物理进食转移到将能量转移到
水中的维度，他们喝水，他们获得了他们所需要的平衡能量。现在把你放在外面的那些瓶
子换掉，把你喝水的杯子里的能量装满，让它们成为宇宙的能量。你的身体 95%都是水。用
它来皈依，而不是喝它。人类还没有习惯于看到自己身体结构中的美。那么，你需要吃饭
吗？

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: Mr. Keshe, (2:24). some people in the flight events have mentioned they felt sort of
bloated or having other health effects, let's say. And I want to use Jefferson's (Modesto)
question as a as an example of this. So he says, good morning Mr. Keshe. I participated
in the three plasma flight events and the two weeks of plasma feeding. But I have had a
very complicated health situation since then. I don't know if this situation is related to the
effects of these experiences.
问：凯舍先生，（2：24）。飞行事件中的一些人提到他们感觉有点浮肿或有其他健康影
响，让我们说。我想用杰斐逊（莫德斯托）的问题作为一个例子。所以他说，早上好，凯
什先生。我参加了三次血浆飞行活动和两周的血浆喂养。但从那以后，我的健康状况变得
非常复杂。我不知道这种情况是否与这些经历的影响有关。
In the last two weeks my blood pressure has risen a lot. It has reached 20 by 13. I have
had great difficulty breathing. I have not been able to sleep well. I feel my abdomen is
very bloated as if the food is just sitting there and digestion was not taking place. My feet
swelled up a lot. I was forced to go to the doctor and they prescribed me medication for
the heart. I followed up with the cardiologist. I never had problems like that. I do the
protocols with the Cup of Life daily.
在过去的两周里，我的血压升高了很多。到 13 岁时已经达到 20 岁。我呼吸非常困难。我一
直睡不好。我觉得我的腹部非常臃肿，好像食物只是坐在那里，消化没有发生。我的脚肿了
很多。我被迫去看医生，他们给我开了治疗心脏的药。我跟进了心脏病专家。我从来没有遇
到过这样的问题。我每天都用生命之杯做协议。

My question is, could these effects indicate that something is changing in my physicality,
as a result of what my Soul is experiencing? Now, after the plasma flight events, how
could this evolve? Thank you very much, Mr. Keshe.
我的问题是，这些影响是否表明，由于我的灵魂正在经历的事情，我的肉体正在发生变化？
现在，在等离子体飞行事件之后，这是如何演变的？非常感谢 Keshe 先生。

K- This is expectation. This is when you feel you're generous, you give. And in fact, you
came to take, and the body has taken too much. And is a conflict between the energy field
of the Soul and STP. This is not the first time we see this, (2:26). and does not get solved
by medication. Get solved by understanding the structure of the emotion.
K-这是期望。当你觉得自己很慷慨的时候，你就会付出。而事实上，你来取，身体已经取得
太多了。是灵魂能量场和 STP 之间的冲突。这不是我们第一次看到这种情况（ 2：26）。不
能通过药物治疗解决。通过理解情绪的结构来解决问题。

When we have a father whose, the son is in conflict with, the son bloats up to show I'm
big, so I can, I exist, that I can stand the father's bullying. And we do the same thing, we
can do it overnight. We put weight on like nothing in matter of days. Because we go
through the point we can't understand. We expect to be the giver, and we actually are
takers. And we store it for the time, that we want to ?? give. We see this quite a lot with
those who feel they came to give, but they actually took. Body goes on imbalance. Try to
understand how and why. It's expectation.
当我们有一个父亲，儿子与他发生冲突时，儿子会膨胀起来，以显示我很大，所以我可以，
我存在，我可以忍受父亲的欺凌。我们做同样的事情，我们可以在一夜之间完成。我们的体
重在几天内就增加了。因为我们经历了我们不能理解的点。我们期望成为给予者，但实际上
我们是索取者。我们把它储存在我们想要的时间里？给。我们经常看到这样的情况：有些人
觉得自己是来给予的，但实际上他们是来索取的。身体继续不平衡。试着理解如何和为什
么。是期待。

Can I ask one question, if he is on the line he can write to you. Did he come to Linz, but
never attended to come inside? If he can answer that on the line. Then we understand
more.
我能问一个问题吗？如果他在线上，他可以给你写信。他是不是来过林茨，但从来没有进来
过？如果他能在线上回答的话。那我们就更明白了。

People came in as I said, you'll see a variety of interactions and responses from the
people who came to the what we call, "dining with the Creator." And the Creation and the
Creator is you. What have you created? Or is the physicality different than the emotion,
that cannot accept it? (2:28).
正如我所说，人们来到这里，你会看到各种各样的互动和回应，这些人来到我们所说的“与
造物主共进晚餐”。造物和创造者就是你。你创造了什么？还是肉体与情感不同，不能接受
它？( 2: 28).

This is why we invite you on, what you call it, on Sunday, twelve o'clock, to join us. To
understand. And a lot of you will understand this change. What you went through. And I
receive a lot of communications from the people who've been through different sessions.
这就是为什么我们邀请你，你所说的，在星期天，十二点，加入我们。去理解。你们中的很
多人会理解这种变化。你所经历的。我从参加过不同会议的人那里收到了很多信息。

How many of you will feel you are the leader when you come out of 24th? How many of
you will feel you need to be a ?? vet, because you do not really know what it means to
lead yourself to the destination? Because then you have to lead yourself to planet Zeus, or
somewhere else.
你们中有多少人在第 24 届毕业时会觉得自己是领导者？你们中有多少人会觉得自己需要成
为？兽医，因为你真的不知道把自己带到目的地意味着什么。因为你必须把自己带到宙斯星
球，或者其他地方。

There's a reason we put these sessions on, for Man to understand his work. We hear one
is not eating for 16 days. And one has a blood pressure and the rest of it. And I ask one
question, if he can answer it, did he ever come to Linz? But never came in. Then I give
you the answer why.
我们举行这些会议是有原因的，是为了让人类理解自己的工作。我们听说一个人 16 天不吃
东西。一个有血压，其余的。我问一个问题，如果他能回答，他来过林茨吗？但一直没进
来。那我就告诉你为什么。
The Keshe Foundation doctors are looking for a lot of medical conditions. Because we
would like to know what will happen to the physicality to set our system, (2:30). when
you travel from New York to Linz. Are we getting the same and the same emotion? Or
are we getting animal behavior in New York and the gentle man by change of the fields
in Linz?
Keshe 基金会的医生正在寻找大量的医疗条件。因为我们想知道要设定我们的系统，肉体
会发生什么（2：30）。当你从纽约到林茨旅行时。我们得到的情感是一样的吗？还是我
们在纽约看到了动物的行为，在林茨看到了温文尔雅的人？
They are looking for cancer patients, they are looking for all the mysterious ways the man
has abused, or emotionally abuses his physicality. Because these all will be registered in
the what we call, the encyclopedia of the travel. How do you change cancers? Or do you
teach the Soul, that the cancer is created by its not balanced with the energies of
physicality?
他们正在寻找癌症患者，他们正在寻找该男子虐待或在情感上虐待其身体的所有神秘方式。
因为这些都将被记录在我们所谓的“旅行百科全书”中。你如何改变癌症？或者你教导灵
魂，癌症是由它与肉体能量的不平衡造成的？

If you have any kind of diseases go to the Keshe Foundation website, because all these
conditions you're talking about is something for them to learn. Because then it becomes
available to the man in the Universe in the space. They're looking for all sorts of
conditions. Go through the normal channel, where we have your
health@keshe.foundation, or info@keshe.foundation and through doctors of the Keshe
Foundation, they'll get in touch with you and try to understand.
如果你有任何疾病，请访问 Keshe 基金会的网站，因为你所说的所有这些情况都是他们可
以学习的。因为这样宇宙中的人就可以在太空中使用它。他们在寻找各种条件。通过正常
的渠道，我们有你的 health@keshe.foundation，或者 info@keshe.foundation，通过
KESHE 基金会的医生，他们会与你取得联系并试图了解情况。

Some of you Knowledge Seekers have brought a big question mark to us and say, you
ask us to come in and you want us to pay. (2:32). You want us to massage the figures
and the technology like the others do? Because that does pay for it, we have to give them
what they need? Or do you pay for it, that it can be done the correct way, we learn from it
that everybody gets direct data? In this process, we're all researchers, and we pay for our
research. It's not just because it's the Foundation you asked, and I don't have to. And this
is part of the process.
你们中的一些知识寻求者给我们带来了一个大大的问号，说，你们让我们进来，你们要我们
付钱。( 2: 32).你想让我们像其他人一样处理数字和技术？因为这确实值得，我们必须给
他们所需要的。或者你为它付钱，它可以以正确的方式完成，我们从中了解到每个人都可以
获得直接的数据？在这个过程中，我们都是研究人员，我们为我们的研究付费。这不仅仅是
因为这是你要求的基础，我不需要。这是过程的一部分。

As I explained very recently to one of the Knowledge Seekers, they brought the
vaccination, and because they were paid they massaged it. The biggest crime to humanity
was done in past three years, by those who paid for those to confirm, cheated documents
and figures. This will not happen in Keshe Foundation. We don't have to report to no one,
and we don't have to massage nothing. And you pay for all our researchers, your work. Buying
products paying for research, paying for the others to help with research, it's all
part of the same system.
正如我最近向一位知识寻求者解释的那样，他们带来了疫苗，因为他们得到了报酬，所以他
们对疫苗进行了按摩。对人类最大的犯罪是在过去三年里，由那些花钱确认、欺骗文件和数
字的人犯下的。这不会发生在科舍基金会。我们不需要向任何人报告，也不需要什么都不
做。你为我们所有的研究人员和你的工作付钱。购买产品，支付研究费用，支付其他人帮助
研究的费用，这都是同一个系统的一部分。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

R: Okay, question from…

R：好的，问题来自……
K- Are you in the background? Did you come to Linz or not?
你在后台吗？你到底有没有来林茨？
R: Mark says in the last comment, you're correct. I don't know if that's specifically related
to that or not.
R：马克在最后一条评论中说，你是对的。我不知道这是否与此有关。
K- Mr. Rodrigues, am I correct? Is it the right one?
罗德里格斯先生，我说的对吗？它是正确的吗？
R: Mark says yes, it is. (2:34). And Jeferson Modesto.
R：马克说，是的，它是。( 2: 34).还有杰弗森·莫德斯托。
K- He came, but he never came in. Jefferson never came inside.
他来了，但他没进来。杰斐逊没有进来。
R: .. Oh, he says he was present by phone, but I have never gone to Linz, he says.
R：..“哦，他在电话里说他在场，但我从未去过林茨，”他说。
(Note: The question was from Jefferson Modesto, not Jefferson Rodrigues who went to
Linz but did not go inside the building).
（注意：这个问题来自杰斐逊·莫德斯托，而不是杰斐逊·罗德里格斯（他去了林茨，但没
有进入大楼）。
K- Yes. But he never came inside.
K-是的。但他从没进来过。

We bring all of you to Linz. And some of you never come in. We ask you to go to places,
but you decide where to go. As I said, a few weeks ago, we had Knowledge Seekers in
the flight system. I said, you can go to Moon. She said, no, I want .. to see my husband
who died. I don't want to fly. We've had this a few times. We open it, but you're not there
to come in.
我们把你们都带到林茨。你们中的一些人从来没有进来过。我们要求你去的地方，但你决定
去哪里。正如我所说，几周前，我们在飞行系统中有知识寻求者。我说，你可以去月球。她
说，不，我想..去看我死去的丈夫。我不想坐飞机。我们有过几次这样的经历。我们打开
它，但你不能进来。

We're doing a lot of flight tests. And in this test, I test a lot of people in what I call, to
come in, or to go out. A lot have a problem to come in, because they are not sure what
will happen when they come in. (2:36). And the fear of not sure is, can I go back to
where I came from. But if you ask them, to ask somebody else to come in, they always,
most of the time, bring them in. Can you bring your ex-husband, can you bring your cat
they'll bring it? But if you ask them, can you bring yourself in? It's always a problem of
uncertainty. I've been there, but I'm not there.
我们做了很多飞行测试。在这个测试中，我测试了很多人在我所说的，进来，或者出去。很
多人进来都有问题，因为他们不确定进来后会发生什么。( 2: 36).不确定的恐惧是，我能
回到我来的地方吗？但如果你要求他们，要求其他人进来，他们总是，大多数时候，把他们
带进来。你能带上你的前夫吗？你能带上你的猫吗？他们会带的？但如果你问他们，你能把
自己带进来吗？这始终是一个不确定性的问题。我去过那里，但我不在那里。
A huge amount of research is going in the background. And in the next maybe a couple
of weeks, next few weeks, you will see totally a new generation of EU, never seen in
public. Never seen at all, never been created. And these are as close as we get to
production, or replication of the fields of the Universe, with the present knowledge of the
Man. Till we move from the matter state into the field state. Because we came from one,
we went to the other, and we're going back to the other one we came from originally, but
in different dimensions. Because it had to be understood. Fields and the interaction of the
fields were not understood fully by our team. Now, most probably has been partially.
大量的研究正在幕后进行。在接下来的几个星期里，你会看到新一代的欧盟，从未在公众面
前出现过。从未见过，从未被创造过。根据人类目前的知识，这些是我们最接近宇宙领域的
生产或复制。直到我们从物质状态进入场状态。因为我们从一个地方来，我们去了另一个地
方，我们将回到我们最初来的另一个地方，但在不同的维度。因为它必须被理解。我们的团
队并不完全了解字段和字段之间的交互。现在，很可能已经部分。

We had to go into rays to understand it, to come back into the fields to understand the
plasma. (2:38). And when the new plasma systems comes into operation, we are ready to
transmute you. And transportation becomes extremely easy for us, should be ready in
next 2 - 3 - 4 weeks, because the production has started.
我们必须进入射线才能理解它，回到磁场中才能理解等离子体。( 2: 38).当新的等离子系
统开始运作时，我们已经准备好转化你了。运输对我们来说变得非常容易，应该在未来 2-
3-4 周内准备就绪，因为生产已经开始。

And it's controlled by you and your thoughts, then by us. It follows into the Head Units
and the Power Generation Units the same. The new spherical Power Generator Units are
an amazing things once you see them. We move the technology to a much different
ballgame, than up to now. The first basis of transmutation through thoughts. The first
backup system, the basis of it has arrived from our factory in Iran in our hands in Linz. And you
will see it, where the new generation of the, what we call, the Head Units and
Power Unit comes into operation. It's a different world, (2:40). and different ways to eat,
different ways to communicate, and they are just about to come in to production in the
second quarter.
它由你和你的思想控制，然后由我们控制。它同样进入头部单元和发电单元。新的球形发电
机组是一个惊人的东西，一旦你看到他们。到目前为止，我们将技术转移到一个完全不同的
领域。通过思想转化的第一个基础。第一个备份系统，它的基础已经从我们在伊朗的工厂运
到了我们在林茨的手中。你会看到，我们所说的新一代的头部单元和动力单元开始运行。这
是一个不同的世界（2：40）。不同的饮食方式，不同的交流方式，他们即将在第二季度投
入生产。

You understand the interaction. The fear of coming to Linz will go away, because you're
in Linz before you have the fear. Those of you who bought the Plasma Compact Units
with the Head Units will experience a new dimension in life, once you receive them. And
once you understand what the position is in respect to your Soul, nothing else. Your Soul
will think good, will act good, and will deliver the good things.
你明白互动。来林茨的恐惧会消失，因为在你有恐惧之前你就在林茨了。你们中那些购买了
带有头部单元的等离子紧凑型单元的人，一旦收到它们，将会体验到生活中的一个新维度。
一旦你明白了你的灵魂所处的位置，就没有别的了。你的灵魂会想好的，会做好的，会传递
好的东西。

And you will see the line of communication will change. A lot of you will communicate
totally in a different way when you receive the Head Units with the Power Generation. Because the
power is generated in dimension of the plasma, not in dimension of the
electric power. Your brain, your Soul is made of a plasma. So it's of the same, that's why
the change will come in that way. (2:42). In the upcoming meeting with world leaders
for the first time these Head Units will be used in a very specific way. Then you'll
understand.
你会看到沟通的方式会改变。你们中的很多人会以一种完全不同的方式进行沟通，当你们收
到发电的主机时。因为功率是在等离子体的维度上产生的，而不是在电功率的维度上产生
的。你的大脑，你的灵魂是由等离子体构成的。所以它是一样的，这就是为什么变化会以这
种方式出现。( 2: 42).在即将到来的与世界领导人的首次会议上，这些头单元将以一种非
常特殊的方式使用。然后你就会明白。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

R: Okay, I'd like to clarify with the Jefferson thing. As Rafael mentioned in the chat here
it's Jefferson Modesto, and not Jefferson Rodriguez. As Jefferson Modesto says, he never
went to Linz. Now we have Jefferson Rodriguez with a hand up here. So, perhaps he
would like to say something to clarify his position. Hello, Jefferson, would you like to go
ahead?
R：好吧，我想澄清一下杰斐逊的事。正如拉斐尔在聊天中提到的，这是杰弗逊·莫德斯
托，而不是杰弗逊·罗德里格斯。正如杰弗逊·莫德斯托所说，他从未去过林茨。现在我们
有杰弗逊·罗德里格斯在这里有一只手。所以，也许他想说些什么来澄清他的立场。你好，
杰斐逊，你想继续吗？

Q: .. Hello, everyone, it's always an honor to talk to you Mr. Keshe personally. And I was
just going to say that it feels really good. I have been through this experience, flight
experience as many as I can. And I really feel good. And I say thank you very much for
the opportunity that we be having to help and to join in this effort to enhance our
knowledge. Thanks to you.
问：..大家好，很荣幸能与您交谈，Keshe 先生。我只是想说这感觉真的很好。我有过这样
的经历，尽可能多的飞行经历。我真的感觉很好。我非常感谢你们让我们有机会帮助并加入
这一努力，以增强我们的知识。多亏了你

And yes, I'd like to say, I've been to Europe last year. And I dropped by Linz, but it was a
weekend when I arrived. And I've been to the Uno Center to know the place, to know
where the institute is, to feel the environment, to feel the air around, to feel the structure,
and to understand the energy that was around, in my humble knowledge. And I've been
through the city to spray Gans's in the river, the Danube river and some churches,
everywhere that I could. To try to bring my wish that everything could be good, could go
in the direction that should be.
是的，我想说，我去年去过欧洲。我顺便去了林茨，但我到的时候是周末。我去过 UNO 中
心，了解这个地方，了解研究所在哪里，感受环境，感受周围的空气，感受结构，了解周围
的能量，在我卑微的知识中。我走遍了整个城市，在河中喷洒甘斯，多瑙河和一些教堂，我
能去的任何地方。试着带上我的愿望，一切都可以好起来，可以朝着应该的方向走下去。

K- Did you let us know you were in Linz?

你让我们知道你在林茨了吗？
Q: Yes.
问：是的。
K- Did you ever let anyone in Linz Center know that you are in Linz?
你有没有让林茨中心的人知道你在林茨？
Q: Well, in fact, I just, I put a message out to a friend, but it would be any possibility to
问：好吧，事实上，我只是，我给一个朋友发了一条信息，但这是任何可能的
make a visit. But I did not specify who and when.
进行访问。但我没有具体说明是谁和什么时候。
K- Now, when you came to Linz, did you tell anyone that you're in Linz, of the Keshe
Foundation?
现在，当你来到林茨时，你有没有告诉别人你在林茨，是凯什基金会的？
Q: No, I didn't. I was by myself.
问：不，我没有。我一个人。

K- You were there. But I knew you were there.

你当时在场。但我知道你在那里。

Q: Yes, you know. But I was…

问：是的，你知道。但我……
K- You came with another Brazilian Knowledge Seeker, a lady, am I correct? (2:46).
你和另一位巴西求知者一起来的，一位女士，我说的对吗？( 2: 46).
Q: Yes. It was a kind of coincidence. Because she was going to take the flight experience
and she was alone. And I was in that time, I was in the city. And I met her to bring her a
kind of emotional support, because I got in connection with her. And I felt that she was
not in balance. So I met her. And we talk a lot about…
问：是的。这是一种巧合。因为她要去体验飞行，而且她是一个人。我在那个时候，我在
城市里。我认识她是为了给她带来一种情感上的支持，因为我和她建立了联系。我觉得她
失去了平衡。所以我遇见了她。我们谈论了很多关于…

K- Why didn't you come into the center?

你为什么不到中心来？
Q: Because in that day, I was leaving. I had my ticket to…
问：因为在那一天，我要离开。我有去…的票。
K- You could have told. I was never told by no one that you're in Linz, but I knew you're
你可以告诉我的。没人告诉过我你在林茨，但我知道你在
in Linz.
在林茨。
Q: I believe ….
问：我相信…….
K- What occurred to me was, why you didn't inform the Keshe Foundation, that you're in
Linz? Because we can always open the door on the weekend, if you're there for a day.
我想到的是，你为什么不通知凯什基金会，你在林茨？因为我们可以在周末开门，如果你
在那里呆一天的话。

Q: Yes, I didn't say to anybody. I was just like, kind of knowing the place. And I didn't
want to bother the experience that was coming on, that I had no appointment made. So I
didn't want to enter…
问：是的，我没对任何人说。我只是有点熟悉这个地方。我不想打扰即将到来的体验，我
没有预约。所以我不想进入…

K- You know, we had these kind of things in Nino, in Belgium. And then in the center in
Italy. Where people come a long, long distance from all over the world, and they just sit
outside and never come in. And we usually feel them. (2:48). That's what I said, I knew
you were there. And you did not come in.
你知道，我们在比利时的尼诺有这样的事情。然后在意大利的中心。人们从世界各地远道
而来，他们只是坐在外面，从不进来。我们通常能感觉到它们。( 2: 48).我就是这么说
的，我知道你在那里。你没有进来。

In Nino I walked a few times, and I could see Japanese and Koreans sitting outside on the
edge of the car park on the road. And I walked to them and said, this is the Keshe
Foundation Center. Yes, we just came to be near. And I said, why you behaved like this,
it's your home, come in. We just don't want to be disrespectful. We just came to be near. And this
followed, even in Italy.
在尼诺，我走了几次，我可以看到日本人和韩国人坐在外面的停车场边上。我走过去对他
们说，这是科舍基金会中心。是的，我们只是来到附近。我说，你为什么要这样，这是你
的家，进来吧。我们只是不想失礼。我们只是来到附近。接下来，甚至在意大利也是如
此。

And this is what I don't understand. If you travel halfway around the world. We haven't
made a temple, it's your home. And we see this kind of behavior quite a lot. When you
come to Linz or anywhere else. And you're not the only person who's done this. I'm
aware about maybe 10 - 20 people have done this in the past year.
这就是我不明白的地方。如果你环游了半个世界。我们没有建寺庙，这是你的家。我们经
常看到这种行为。当你来到林茨或其他任何地方。你不是唯一一个这么做的人。据我所
知，在过去的一年里，大概有 10-20 个人这样做了。

The center is your home. It's not just to come and go. And somehow the Keshe
Foundation team, if you're there for a day, they can always allow you to come in, they
make a time. I was very surprised. I knew you're in Linz and you will not come in. And I
felt it. In the later time, (2:50). I always ask, especially the Koreans and the Japanese
who used to come to Nino outside. And the strange thing is, was they used to come the
two days I used to be in the center, because I asked, the people around, have you seen
them? They usually come to days they know you are here.
中心就是你的家。不仅仅是来来去去。不知何故，Keshe 基金会团队，如果你在那里呆一
天，他们总是允许你进来，他们会安排时间。我感到非常惊讶。我知道你在林茨，你不会
进来的。我感觉到了。在后来的时间里，（2：50）。我总是问，特别是韩国人和日本
人，他们以前经常来尼诺。奇怪的是，我在中心的那两天，他们经常来，因为我问，周围
的人，你见过他们吗？他们通常来的日子，他们知道你在这里。

We don't create a cult. We are not a religion. We are a scientific organization and the love
of the science brings you home, it's your science. And as I said in a meeting in Belgium
years ago, .. we had a public meeting in the Nino Center. And a gentleman came to me
and said, Mr. Keshe, do I have a permission to speak with you. I said, do I have a
permission to speak to you. Why you asked this question? He says, that gentleman there
said, that I cannot speak to you without going through that gentleman. I said, I met that
guy only once, I don't know who he is. People give themselves importance by
association.
我们不会创造一个邪教。我们不是宗教。我们是一个科学组织，对科学的热爱把你带回
家，这是你的科学。正如我多年前在比利时的一次会议上所说，..我们在尼诺中心举行了
一次公开会议。一位绅士走过来对我说，凯舍先生，我可以和你说话吗？我说，我可以和
你说话吗？你为什么问这个问题？他说，那位先生说，如果不通过那位先生，我就不能和
你说话。我说，我只见过那家伙一次，我不知道他是谁。人们通过联想使自己变得重要。

In Keshe Foundation we don't have this. And when you go to any of the Keshe
Foundations if not because of the security, it's your home. It's a home of knowledge. You
should never be ashamed of it. I was talking to my bodyguard yesterday. I said, do you
know why you and your team is around me all the time, the people when we go around
they are there? He said, no. I said, 99% for people to be deterred to anything. The other
1% if they need to be. (2:52).
在 Keshe 基金会，我们没有这个。当你去任何一个 Keshe 基金会时，如果不是因为安全问
题，那就是你的家。这是一个知识之家。你永远不应该为此感到羞愧。我昨天和我的保镖
谈过了。我说，你知道为什么你和你的团队一直围着我转吗？他说，没有。我说，99%的
人对任何事情都会望而却步。剩下的 1%，如果需要的话。( 2: 52).

We made "the home of knowledge" to be for all of us. We haven't made the home of
knowledge to be exclusivity of some. If you traveled halfway around the world, you don't
pass by, you come in. And this situation with you I knew, because I've seen this before,
and in a way it's a pleasure to see, for you even to be there, and for us to see. Next time
you come to Linz, walk in, let us know. If it's possible we make an arrangements.
我们让“知识之家”成为我们所有人的家园。我们还没有让知识之家成为某些人的专属。
如果你环游了半个世界，你不会路过，你会进来。我知道你的这种情况，因为我以前见过
这种情况，在某种程度上，这是一种乐趣，即使你在那里，我们也能看到。下次你来林
茨，走进来，让我们知道。如果可能的话，我们做个安排。

Q: Thank you very much, Mr. Keshe. It'll be a pleasure and…

问：非常感谢 Keshe 先生。这将是一个愉快的…
K- It's a long way from Brazil to come in and not just cross a glass door.
从巴西到这里有很长的路要走，而不仅仅是穿过一扇玻璃门。

Q: Yes, but I will get in contact first, but I feel so much happy that…It's just like you
said, it's just like a home. And I feel like that. I feel when I was in front door feeling the
energy of the Keshe Foundation and all that can and is bringing to humanity in the
connection with the whole. It was so strong, so powerful, that I didn't felt that my person
in physicality could have this strength that I was feeling, the exchange of energy that I
felt. (2:54). Thank you very much for your invitation. I know that's always open and the
next time the time that I have the opportunity will be more than a pleasure and honor to
meet you all there in physicality. But in the Soul level, I'm sure that was incredible,
amazing experience, because I could take this energy to spread the water and Gans's
through the city, to everywhere, to feel the energy, to connect with the churches and the
bell rings everywhere. And understand the environment of the place. So it's easier for me
to get in contact when we are in this experience. Although I didn't came in. But I feel
that's amazing experience. And I just say thank you for everything. And I will be very
happy. I will be there one day. And I will come in happily.
问：是的，但我会先联系，但我觉得很高兴…就像你说的，就像一个家。我也有这种感
觉。当我在前门的时候，我感受到了凯舍基金会的能量，以及在与整体的联系中能够并正
在带给人类的一切。它是如此强大，如此有力，以至于我感觉不到我的肉体能拥有我所感
受到的这种力量，我所感受到的能量交换。( 2: 54).非常感谢你的邀请。我知道这永远
是开放的，下一次我有机会在那里与你们所有人见面将是一件非常愉快和荣幸的事。但在
灵魂层面上，我确信这是一次令人难以置信、令人惊叹的经历，因为我可以带着这种能量
将水和甘斯传播到城市的每一个地方，去感受这种能量，去与教堂连接，让钟声无处不
在。了解这个地方的环境。所以当我们在这个体验中的时候，我更容易接触。虽然我没有
进来。但我觉得这是一次奇妙的经历。我只想说谢谢你所做的一切。我会很高兴的。总有
一天我会去的。我会高高兴兴地进来。

K- You're welcome. We had the experience, I don't know if it is still going on. But we
stayed for about three weeks in a small hotel, in a suite in Italy, before we moved into a
permanent residence. And we had a few conferences in that hotel afterwards while we
were in Italy. The management of the hotel told us one day that, Mr. Keshe, we don't
know why, (2:56). but a lot of people are booking the room that you stayed in. They ask
only the room. They come into the hotel for one night or whatever. And they want to stay
in that room only. And I said, what do you mean? He said, these are the people, your
Knowledge Seekers, they want to sleep in the same bed as you slept. To feel the energy.
不-不客气。我们有过这样的经历，我不知道它是否还在继续。但我们在意大利的一家小
旅馆住了大约三个星期，住在一间套房里，然后我们搬到了一个永久住所。当我们在意大
利的时候，我们在那家酒店开了几次会议。有一天，酒店的管理人员告诉我们，Keshe 先
生，我们不知道为什么（2：56）。但是很多人都预订了你住过的房间。他们只问房间。
他们来酒店住一晚或什么的。他们只想呆在那个房间里。我说，你是什么意思？他说，这
些人，你的知识追求者，他们想和你睡在同一张床上。去感受能量。
We have not created a cult. And the guy said, we have more booking for that room than
anything else. We've got to understand that, we have to understand the essence of fields
of it. And I respect that, in the teaching of Muhammad, bless his name. In the West, you
don't understand. I spoke about this before. When the…they had to become a consent
between those who brought Christianity to Italy, through the Roman soldiers who went to
Palestine, and some witnessed the putting of the Christ on the cross. And the ones of the
leaders of the Italy, the Emperor went to Iran and became the followers of Mitra to find a
religion without a statue. And when they two came together, the Romans could not tell
the citizen of Italy, that now we worship something in the sky the way the Emperor's do
in the name of Mitra. So they made another statue, call it, the cross on the Christ.
我们没有创造一个邪教。那个人说：“那个房间的预订比其他任何东西都多。”我们必须理
解这一点，我们必须理解 IT 领域的本质。我尊重这一点，在穆罕默德的教导中，祝福他的
名字。在西方，你不明白。我以前说过这个。当.他们必须成为那些将基督教带到意大利的
人之间的共识，通过前往巴勒斯坦的罗马士兵，一些人见证了将基督钉在十字架上。意大利
的领导人，皇帝去了伊朗，成为米特拉的追随者，去寻找一个没有雕像的宗教。当他们两个
走到一起时，罗马人不能告诉意大利公民，现在我们崇拜天空中的某种东西，就像皇帝以米
特拉的名义所做的那样。所以他们做了另一座雕像，叫做“基督的十字架”。

So in a way they moved from these big statues in different locations and temples, that
you could carry now the cross on you, (2:58). with a cross on it, with a Christ on it. So,
they changed one statue with another. Muhammad saw this. And for it not to be repeated
he forbid the Muslims to ever draw his face, that he doesn't become another statue on the
cross.
所以在某种程度上，他们从这些不同地点和寺庙的大雕像中走出来，你现在可以把十字架带
在身上，（2：58）。上面有一个十字架，上面有一个基督。所以，他们把一个雕像换成了
另一个。穆罕默德看到了这个。为了不被重复，他禁止穆斯林画他的脸，他不会成为十字架
上的另一尊雕像。

This is why in the Western world, you hear they put all sort of death sentences by the
Islamic leaders on those who draw the picture of Muhammad. That was a logical
Muhammad. When I did it was to protect myself, not to bring wars to the humanity. Another statue.
Because Muhammad and his time of life lived in the places where they
worshipped statues. When he went back, when he realized the message of the Creator, he
demolished all these statues. The only statue he couldn't demolish was the black stone,
which wasn't cut yet, it was nothing to worship. The only uncut stone. And because it was
black it brought the fear. From outside it's square. It was brought in to become another
frightening statue.
这就是为什么在西方世界，你会听到伊斯兰领导人对那些画穆罕默德画像的人判处各种死
刑。这是一个合乎逻辑的穆罕默德。我这么做是为了保护自己，而不是给人类带来战争。另
一座雕像。因为穆罕默德和他的时代生活在他们崇拜雕像的地方。当他回去的时候，当他意
识到造物主的信息时，他拆毁了所有这些雕像。他唯一不能拆除的雕像是那块黑色的石头，
它还没有被切割，没有什么值得崇拜的。唯一未经切割的石头。因为它是黑色的，它带来了
恐惧。从外面看是方形的。它被带进来成为另一座令人恐惧的雕像。

And Muhammad didn't want this to happen to him and the path of the ?? he brought. So
he forbid even his pictures to be drawn. Where in Christianity you just walk from one
statue worshiping a round ？? room, to another with a cross. Now you have become
better, you could carry it (wearing the crucifix as necklace). And the Emperor's act on the
behavior of the Catholic Church. (3:00). We just gave them something else, another
statue to worship. If you're a true Christian you should never carry anything with you
(wear a crucifix), because the love of Christ has to be in your heart, not around your neck.
穆罕默德不希望这样的事情发生在他和他的道路上？他带来了。所以他甚至禁止别人画他的
画。在基督教里，你只要从一座雕像走出来，就能崇拜一轮？?房间里，另一个带着十字
架。现在你变得更好了，你可以带着它（戴着十字架项链）。以及皇帝的行为对天主教会的
行为。( 3: 00).我们只是给了他们别的东西，另一座供他们膜拜的雕像。如果你是一个真
正的基督徒，你不应该随身携带任何东西（戴十字架），因为基督的爱必须在你的心中，而
不是在你的脖子上。

And it has to be the same with the Keshe Foundation. The knowledge has to be respected,
not the man. The understanding of the line of connection to the Creator by the man
himself has to be respected, not anything else. And when you go to knowledge centers of
the Keshe Foundation around the world, respect the knowledge and be part of it, and not
be arrogant that you understood more, or think I'm not worthy to be there, because we are
all equal. Thank you very much. I knew you were in Linz. And nobody ever told me.
Keshe 基金会也是如此。知识必须得到尊重，而不是人。人自己对与造物主的连线的理解必
须得到尊重，而不是其他任何东西。当你去世界各地的 Keshe 基金会的知识中心时，尊重知
识并成为其中的一部分，不要因为你理解得更多而傲慢，或者认为我不配在那里，因为我们
都是平等的。非常感谢。我知道你在林茨。没人告诉过我。

Q: .. In the last teaching, we were given discussing it in Brazil. About the elevation of
the Soul of the leaders, the "5plus1", plus Iran negotiators. And we've been through this
connection (Intention) every day. And you pointed out that we should change something. And we
were just wondering…
问：..在上一次教学中，我们在巴西讨论了这个问题。关于领导人灵魂的提升，“ 5+1
”，加上伊朗谈判代表。我们每天都在经历这种联系（意图）。你指出我们应该改变一些东
西。我们只是想知道…
K- The 5plus1 has become successful, it's just matter of the last legs of it. There is a
prison exchange in next few days should be complete hopefully. (3:02). And the backing
of Chinese in the negotiation, as part of the main negotiations of the peace talks, 5plus1. It's the
last bits for Americans to clean up.
K-5plus1 已经取得了成功，这只是它的最后一步。在接下来的几天里有一个监狱交换，
希望能完成。( 3: 02).中国在谈判中的支持，作为和平谈判主要谈判的一部分，5+1。
这是美国人要清理的最后一部分。

Your work should not stop till this concludes, as part of what you do. But then it comes
the next step. You gathered so much energy to bring that and you're holding it, move it on
to the next step. What are you going to do when the 5plus1 to finish. Your elevation of
the Soul of the World leaders to reach consensus as a World Peace has to become the
work of your team, which you set up in Brazil. And I watch every day when Rafael post
things around all the Keshe Foundation 30 odd, what you call it, groups.
作为你工作的一部分，在这件事结束之前，你的工作不应该停止。但接下来就是下一
步。你聚集了如此多的能量来实现这一点，你正在保持它，把它移到下一步。当 5+1 完成
时，你打算做什么？你提升了世界领导人的灵魂，以达成世界和平的共识，这必须成为
你在巴西建立的团队的工作。我每天都在看拉斐尔在凯舍基金会 30 多个团体周围发布的
东西。

The 5plus1 has taken its course in a way, through the wisdom of His Excellency
President Xi of China, it will meet his target, we'll achieve it, it's matter of weeks or
months. Depends how the new situation with the Saudis and the peace talks are opening
up the embassies in Iran has changed their position. And this will give certain arrogance
to the Iranian leaders, but this should bring them humbleness that they become part of the
process.
通过中国国家主席习近平阁下的智慧，“ 5+1 ”已经走上了正轨，它将实现他的目标，
我们将实现它，这只是几周或几个月的事情。这取决于与沙特的新形势和和平谈判如何
开放，驻伊朗大使馆已经改变了他们的立场。这将给伊朗领导人带来一定的傲慢，但这
应该给他们带来谦卑，让他们成为这一进程的一部分。

It's do not stop, because that process you started, your as a Brazilian team who meets
every night is still keeping everything as it is. As part of the course to be. And once
accomplished….(3:04). It's in the process. We always said, we are 98 - 99% done, it's
just a lot of things which needs to be agreed. It's mainly financial side than anything else. And
the Iranian leadership wants, a lot of the Iranians asked to be returned back to Iran,
or freed to Iran, as long as these assets are used for the nation, not the private accounts.
不要停止，因为你开始的那个过程，作为一支每晚都见面的巴西队，你仍然保持着一
切。作为课程的一部分。一旦完成…….(3:04).正在进行中。我们总是说，我们已经完
成了 98-99%，只是还有很多事情需要达成一致。主要是财务方面，而不是其他方面。伊
朗领导人希望，许多伊朗人要求返回伊朗，或被释放到伊朗，只要这些资产用于国家，
而不是私人账户。

There was a huge problem with the ex-president of Iran with the Chinese. With the new
president all these have been sorted, and a lot of things, which the last President created
the mayhem between Iran and China is over. And in China, the Iranian new leadership
have taken a new course in the work of the peace. It will not be surprised to see the
opening of the what I call, dialogue between Israel and Iran in the coming time. The new
delegations, which we see in Emirates with the bankers and the religious leaders in the
background, and the, what we call…There's a little problem left with Israelis to be sorted
out with the new leadership.
伊朗前总统和中国人之间有很大的问题。有了新总统，所有这些问题都得到了解决，上
一任总统制造的伊朗和中国之间的混乱局面也结束了。在中国，伊朗新领导层在和平工
作中采取了新的方针。在不久的将来，以色列和伊朗之间将开启我所说的对话，这并不
令人惊讶。我们在阿联酋看到的新代表团，背景是银行家和宗教领袖，以及我们所说
的…以色列还有一个小问题需要新的领导层来解决。

The talk between Iran and Israel to come into the face of peace is already taking shape in
the background. And that needs the next support of the Brazilian group. We expect some
skirmishes by Israel towards Iran, but in general, everything is sorted to be there. The
Americans are influencing the air bases in Azerbaijan, to create a diversion, attack on
Iran by Israel, but we are fully aware of it, we know what's happening. (3:06). Decision
was done ？? 7 - 8 years. This needs the next step of attention by the what we call, nightly
meeting in Brazil. 5plus1, and then the establishment of peace across most of the places,
which is to come. With the technology we take to China, in the next few weeks will bring
an evolution in science and technology of China. And we hope that the Chinese will pass
it on to the rest of the world.
伊朗和以色列之间关于和平的会谈已经在幕后形成。这需要巴西集团的下一步支持。我
们预计以色列会与伊朗发生一些小规模冲突，但总的来说，一切都在那里。美国人正在
影响阿塞拜疆的空军基地，以转移以色列对伊朗的攻击，但我们充分意识到这一点，我
们知道发生了什么。( 3: 06).决定做好了吗？?7-8 岁。这需要我们在巴西举行的夜间会
议的下一步关注。5 加上 1，然后在大多数地方建立和平，这是即将到来的。随着我们带
到中国的技术，在未来几周内将带来中国科技的发展。我们希望中国人能把它传递给世
界其他国家。
Thank you very much for being here.
非常感谢你来到这里。

Q: Thank you, thank you Mr. Keshe. I wish you a happy new, "norus". And we keep on,
we keep on. I just thought that maybe we were doing something not wrong, but not
enforcing, or that was just a feeling that I had about this meeting.
问：谢谢你，谢谢你，Keshe 先生。祝你有一个快乐的新“诺鲁斯”。我们继续，我们继
续。我只是想，也许我们做了一些没有错的事情，但没有强制执行，或者这只是我对这次
会议的一种感觉。
K- It is part of. There is a lot of bits staying around. Just one second please.
它是的一部分。有很多碎片留在周围。请等一下。
(interruption ) Sorry about that. Somehow, it rings at the same time during the teaching.
（打断）对不起。不知何故，它在教学过程中同时响起。

But in general, we're on the target. And this meeting of the 24th will be very important
for the work of the Foundation. (3:08). a lot of the, and what you call it, expansion of
peace. Try to join as many as you can. And many of you will learn a lot about yourselves
by the time we finish with the, what we call, meeting with the world leaders. The feeding
time was for 24 hours, or what we call it, the first two weeks. Meeting with the world
leaders will be a long commitment. A long haul and a lot of work. And members of
Universal Council, not the supporters of Universal Council, are obliged to be in this
meeting. You use your own what you call it, Universal Council emails and you enter, you
don't need an invitation. With this, we'll bring the change. Because there's a lot of things
in the background getting developed and put in position for that to be achieved.
但总的来说，我们在目标上。24 日的会议对基金会的工作非常重要。(3:08).很多，你们
称之为和平的扩张。尽可能多地加入。当我们结束与世界领导人的会晤时，你们中的许多
人将对自己有更多的了解。喂食时间为 24 小时，或者我们所说的前两周。与世界领导人
的会晤将是一个长期的承诺。长途旅行和大量的工作。世界理事会的成员，而不是世界理
事会的支持者，有义务参加这次会议。你用你自己的，你所谓的，世界议会的电子邮件，
你进入，你不需要邀请。有了这个，我们将带来变化。因为在后台有很多东西正在开发和
放置，以实现这一目标。

And this time peace supported by the Chinese will bring a lot of good things. And they
need the collection, continuous support, which will join the 24th meeting with the world
leaders to the Brazilian group. In a way in the coming time.
而这一次由中国人支持的和平会带来很多好东西。他们需要收集，持续的支持，这将加入
巴西集团与世界领导人的第 24 次会议。在某种程度上，在未来的时间。

And we'll see how the thing turn up for you to understand, that you are the world leaders. (3:10).
You don't need nobody to lead you. But to be correct leaders. Because when it
comes to the Man to be in the space as a leader, as your Soul, will create his own planet
or a star, you have to lead. But you have to learn from now how that Soul will lead. That
doesn't bring, they create, the mayhem we've seen with the Soul, which created the planet
Earth. And this is part of the teaching, it's part of the understanding the process of the
Creation. Thank you very much.
我们会看到事情如何发生，让你们明白，你们是世界领袖。( 3: 10).你不需要任何人来
领导你。而是成为正确的领导者。因为当涉及到一个人在太空中作为一个领导者，作为你
的灵魂，将创造他自己的星球或恒星，你必须领导。但你必须从现在开始学习灵魂将如何
领导。这并没有带来，他们创造了，我们所看到的灵魂的混乱，它创造了地球。这是教学
的一部分，是理解创造过程的一部分。非常感谢。

Q: .. Hello, Mr. Keshe. How are you? And my question is, I was listening oldest
teachings, the number 21. And you said about the numbers of the Souls of animals and
Vertical beings is much greater than the human beings. And I was thinking about it. And
my question is, if you put the plasma technology available today, in two satellites around
the Earth, in opposite sides, would not raise the Souls of this planet very quickly? Or I
could call in a number of Keshe Foundation and ask what I need. It's what I was
thinking.
问：..你好，凯什先生。你好吗？我的问题是，我听的是最古老的教义，数字 21。你说动
物和垂直生物的灵魂数量比人类多得多。我一直在想。我的问题是，如果你把今天可用的
等离子技术，放在地球周围的两颗卫星上，放在相对的两边，不会很快提升这个星球的灵
魂吗？或者我可以打电话给一些 KESHE 基金会，询问我需要什么。我也是这么想的。

K- If we do it, we'll become magicians. (3:12). If you collectively do it, collectively you
bring the change, it becomes ingrained and becomes a habit. It's a big difference. And we
always stick to the side of not to be magicians.
如果我们做到了，我们就会成为魔术师。( 3: 12).如果你集体行动，集体带来改变，它
就会变得根深蒂固，成为一种习惯。这是很大的区别。我们总是坚持不做魔术师。
Q: But the Vertical beings are not so much more, than fishes, and insects, more than the
human beings?
问：但垂直生物并不比鱼类和昆虫多多少，也不比人类多多少。

K- I think some colonies of certain animals put together will be by number, much more
than Man. And the more. But we have to go through the process of the change. It's not
only Man who kills, the fish do, the lions do. It's elevating the Soul of Totality, because
their Souls still creates another star, It's not just the privilege of Man's Souls.
我认为某些动物的一些群体放在一起的数量会比人类多得多。而且越多。但我们必须经历
改变的过程。不仅人类会杀人，鱼也会，狮子也会。它提升了整体的灵魂，因为他们的灵
魂仍然创造了另一颗星星，这不仅仅是人类灵魂的特权。

On average you put, how many, half a billion Souls a year into the galaxy. Around a
billion Souls we put out in the Universe, or in the Unicose from this planet, on the human
side, and that's not enough. (3:14). One day I'll explain to you why we need so many
Souls in the Universe and on the Unicose. There is a need for it, there is a structure for it. Some
of it are replenishing, some of it are structuring, some of them become the
backbone of the structure.
平均每年有多少，五亿人进入银河系。我们在宇宙中放出了大约十亿个灵魂，或者在这个
星球上放出了十亿个灵魂，在人类方面，这是不够的。( 3: 14).总有一天我会向你解释
为什么我们需要这么多的灵魂在宇宙中和独角兽上。有它的需要，有它的结构。有些是补
充性的，有些是结构性的，有些成为结构的主干。

We ？? can do it with satellites. Chinese are going to launch 500 low level satellites, or
they already started part of it. And I always said, with these, we can feed the whole
Universe. Part of my discussion with the Chinese government in the upcoming time and
military is this. Placing Keshe Foundation feeding stations on each satellite.
我们？?可以用卫星来做。中国将发射 500 颗低级别卫星，或者他们已经开始发射其中的
一部分。我总是说，有了这些，我们可以养活整个宇宙。在即将到来的时间和军事上，我
与中国政府的部分讨论是这样的。在每个卫星上放置 Keshe 基础供给站。

Q: Great, great, great.

问：很好，很好，很好。

K- But we'll see what happens. Those who are close to us they know. We talk to the
people and places where it matters in different countries. We will see.
但我们会看看会发生什么。那些和我们亲近的人，他们知道。我们与不同国家重要的人和
地方交谈。我们走着瞧。

Q: I have another, only a doubt. Which parameters do you use to release the knowledge
about this plasma science? We are in the…
问：我还有一个，只有一个疑问。你用什么参数来发布关于这个等离子体科学的知识？我
们在…
K- Am I correct, you're a medical doctor?
我说的对吗，你是个医生？
Q: Yes.
问：是的。
K- Ok, ask me.
好吧，问我。

Q: .. Because you're in the 475 classes teachings, which parameter to use to go further, to
go profound? Do you see the behavior? (3:16). Do you see the energy of the planet, the
Souls?
问：..因为你在 475 课的教学中，用哪个参数走得更远，走得更深？你看到行为了吗？
( 3: 16).你看到地球的能量了吗，灵魂？

K- It is a combination. Man is a complex unit. We cannot do it. It's just what we stand
what we do. And each one of us brings our own facets and what we understand from it. You're a
medical doctor. I could never become a medical doctor. It was impossibilities. I
can't stand blood. Actually, I had a chance to become a medical doctor. In Manchester I
was given a place in Manchester medical school in 1979. Even I came from the
engineering background. Manchester medical school gave me pre-med, one year course,
because I was so, with such a high marks. They said, if you can do so good in
engineering you can become a doctor. I was given a place to do a pre-med one year to
join the medical school. And I refused. I said, I can't stand blood, how can…
这是一个组合。人是一个复杂的整体。我们做不到。这只是我们的立场和我们所做的。我
们每个人都带来了我们自己的方面和我们从中理解的东西。你是医学博士。我永远不可能
成为一名医生。这是不可能的。我受不了血。事实上，我有机会成为一名医生。1979
年，我在曼彻斯特医学院获得了一个名额。就连我也是工科出身。曼彻斯特医学院给了我
一年的医学预科课程，因为我的分数很高。他们说，如果你能在工程学上做得这么好，你
就能成为一名医生。有一年，我得到了一个去医学院读医学预科的机会。我拒绝了。我
说，我不能忍受血，怎么能…
I created technology with medicine that needs no blood, works through the energies. That's
where we are with the Keshe Foundation wellness units. You are a special
characters when you become doctors. I see blood I run.
我用药物创造了技术，不需要血液，通过能量起作用。这就是我们与 Keshe 基金会健
康部门合作的地方。当你成为医生的时候，你是一个特殊的角色。我看到血，我就
跑。

Q: That's a point that I am fascinated with your knowledge. Thank you.

问：这一点我对你的知识很感兴趣。谢谢。

K- Thank you very much. But it needs a collection of it. It's a combination of the
emotion, combination of understanding, (3:18). combination of comprehending the
process of the Creation. It's when you put them in what measure with each other, that
brings the best in the human Soul. And that's all the purpose of the teaching is. It depends
on which part you want to emphasis and which part you want, what you call, develop. And which
part you want to strengthen it. There is no set rules.
非常感谢。但它需要收集它。这是情感的结合，理解的结合，（3：18）。理解创作过程相
结合。当你把他们放在一起时，才能带来人类灵魂中最好的东西。这就是教学的全部目的。
这取决于你想要强调哪一部分，你想要哪一部分，你所谓的发展。以及你想加强哪一部分。
没有固定的规则。

K- Thank you very much. Shall we call it a day?

非常感谢。我们今天就到此为止吧？

Q: .. It is my first workshop. Could you tell us something about trauma and how it affects
the brain, and something about addiction or eating disorders? Thank you very much.
问：..这是我的第一个工作坊。你能告诉我们一些关于创伤和它如何影响大脑，以及一些关
于成瘾或饮食失调的事情吗？非常感谢。

K- Trauma .. is created between the condition of the emotion and physicality. (3:20). You do not
know which one and how they interact. We see when we clarify one, or we
strengthen one, we finish with it. Depression, eating disorder, bulimia, and all this comes
from one source of, or another, of self-abuse, or emotional abuse in respect to conditions. And that
things brings certain kind of addiction with it as well, that I stay in my world. And I don't need to
be anyone else. So what brings into that world for me to be on certain
materials be it alcohol, be it drugs, be it love, be it whatever.
K-创伤..是在情感和肉体的条件之间创造的。( 3: 20).你不知道是哪一个，也不知道它们
如何相互作用。我们看到，当我们澄清一个或加强一个时，我们就结束了。抑郁症，饮食失
调，贪食症，所有这些都来自于一种或另一种自虐，或与条件有关的情感虐待。这件事也带
来了某种上瘾，我留在我的世界里。我不需要成为别人。所以，是什么把我带到那个世界，
让我在某些材料上，无论是酒精，毒品，爱情，无论什么。

And this comes from…It actually needs a strengthening of the Soul, with interaction
with the STP. And we've seen that recently with the work of our doctors. How people
with depression, eating disorders, all sorts of conditions, gradually come to understand,
elevate their own Souls and walk away, or gradually start to understand how they've done
it to themselves. And because they understand it, it's self-healing, you don't need to do it
again. You don't need to do anything, because you sort the problem from the base.
这来自..它实际上需要加强灵魂，与 STP 互动。我们最近在医生的工作中看到了这一点。患
有抑郁症，饮食失调，各种疾病的人，如何逐渐理解，提升自己的灵魂然后走开，或者逐渐
开始理解他们是如何对待自己的。因为他们理解它，它是自我修复的，你不需要再做一次。
你不需要做任何事情，因为你从根本上解决了问题。

So when you have a trauma is where you're what I call, Spirit, or STP, cannot understand
the work of emotion. And that brings that conflict. (3:22). Once you elevate the Soul and
STP, the trauma is not there. You have to understand what causes it, what is the reason of
it. Or what has led to it.
所以当你有创伤的时候，你就是我所说的精神，或者 STP，不能理解情感的作用。这就带来
了冲突。( 3: 22).一旦你提升了灵魂和 STP，创伤就不存在了。你必须了解它是由什么引
起的，它的原因是什么。或者是什么导致了它。

We came across something very interesting. We always deny the emotion. And when we
deny the emotion and expectation of the life in the physical dimension, we call it, reward,
brings these traumas in. And some of these traumas we call, ILS (means ALS). Which
ends up with the death of the Man himself, because he cannot handle the traumas of the
emotion in the dimension of physicality.
我们遇到了一些非常有趣的事情。我们总是否认情感。当我们否认物质层面的情感和对生活
的期望时，我们称之为“奖励”，就会带来这些创伤。其中一些创伤我们称之为 ILS（意思
是 ALS）。这最终导致了他自己的死亡，因为他无法处理肉体维度中的情感创伤。

Emotionally, I want, I have to have it because I think I deserve it. But if I don't get it
physically. Demise, I bring the end of physicality because I think…It's just like a child
在感情上，我想要，我必须拥有它，因为我认为我值得拥有它。但如果我身体上得不到。死
亡，我带来了肉体的终结，因为我认为…它就像一个孩子。
having a tantrum, if you don't give me this. I'm going sit down and bang my feet and leg
on the ground till I get it. We call it, temper.
发脾气，如果你不给我这个。我要坐下来，用我的脚和腿敲打地面，直到我得到它。我们
称之为，脾气。

And in adult life expectation and emotional condition not befitting to understand the STP
or physicality, creates ALS. If it's directed to one, to a person as life, we get MS. And
when its self-inflicting, the same emotion to the STP and physicality, we call it
Parkinson. But in fact, we have to understand what trauma we created in the dimension of
emotion that led to the physical condition, psychosomatic. (3:24).
在成人生活预期和情绪状况不适合理解 STP 或身体状况时，会产生 ALS.如果它指向一个
人，指向一个人的生命，我们就会得到 MS.当它自我施加时，同样的情绪到 STP 和身体
上，我们称之为帕金森。但事实上，我们必须了解我们在情绪维度上造成了什么创伤，导
致了身体状况，心身问题。( 3: 24).

So, traumas comes when the two don't fit. The expectation of emotion with the physical
interaction of the STP with physical life. And this is where it comes in. One is the
interaction between the fields of the STP and the dimension of physical life. I'll explain
this once in the future.
所以，当两者不匹配时，创伤就来了。情感的期待与身体的互动 STP 与身体的生活。
这就是它的来源。一个是 STP 的领域和物理生命维度之间的相互作用。我以后再解释
一次。

We have through our structure of our body two structures working at the same time, in
parallel and in conjunction with each other. One is our Soul interacting with our STP,
which ?? leads stepped down to the physicality. But there is one through our neural
system which bypasses the Soul. So that creates its own physical emotion, which
interacts with the STP. And we see it when it does imbalance as trauma. It's a different…
通过我们的身体结构，我们有两个同时工作的结构，平行的和相互结合的。一个是我们的
灵魂与我们的 STP 互动，领导们退到了肉体上。但有一个通过我们的神经系统绕过了灵
魂。所以这创造了它自己的身体情感，与 STP 相互作用。当它不平衡时，我们将其视为创
伤。这是一个不同的.

We don't have traumas between the STP and the STM, but we have traumas between the
STP and what we call, we created as emotion with the physicality of the Man. And that's
the path, which we create our own demise, and we create ALS. And the world of
medicine have not understood this.
我们在 STP 和 STM 之间没有创伤，但我们在 STP 和我们所说的，我们用人的身体创造的情
感之间有创伤。这就是我们创造自己死亡的道路，我们创造了 ALS.医学界还不明白这一
点。

Once we understand this, we can solve 90% of the what we call, diseases of the Man,
psychosomatic. (3:26). In a way, it's an internal work. Where with the STM and the STP
is a universal work. It's like a family, inside a family you do whatever you like, but the
family has an interaction with the society. This is how they see this family.
一旦我们理解了这一点，我们就能解决 90%的所谓人类心身疾病。( 3: 26).在某种程度
上，这是一项内部工作。其中 STM 和 STP 是一项通用的工作。这就像一个家庭，在一个家
庭里，你想做什么就做什么，但家庭与社会有互动。这就是他们对这个家庭的看法。

And this is what we call, traumas. It's the interaction with an emotion created through the
physicality and STP. This is where it creates psychosomatic, the emotions you create
within the Soul and the STP is a different emotion, even itself can lead to psychosomatic
diseases.
这就是我们所说的创伤。这是通过身体和 STP 产生的情感互动。这就是它创造心身的地
方，你在灵魂中创造的情绪，而 STP 是一种不同的情绪，甚至它本身也会导致心身疾病。

So, when you have traumas, you have to understand why, how. And when you have an
eating disorder, what this psychosomatic condition have brought these kinds of allergies,
these kinds of things. I was talking to a very highly educated woman in past couple of
days. She has a specific disease condition, and I was talking to her a few weeks ago, and
in the past couple of days, we're talking about it. She said, Mr. Keshe you're right, I
started reading the books. She's a doctor. And she said, you were right, I created my own
problem through my own the emotion. I read other scientists, and it's what you told me. It's
exactly right. And I know how I created this. Now I understand it. I said, now it's time
you're going to bring the change, because you understood. (3:28).
所以，当你有创伤时，你必须明白为什么，如何。当你患有饮食失调症时，这种身心状况
会带来这些过敏，这些东西。在过去的几天里，我和一位受过高等教育的女士交谈。她有
一种特殊的疾病，几周前我和她谈过，在过去的几天里，我们一直在谈论它。她说，凯什
先生，你说得对，我开始读这些书。她是个医生。她说，你是对的，我通过自己的情绪制
造了自己的问题。我读过其他科学家的书，这是你告诉我的。完全正确。我知道我是怎么
创造这个的。现在我明白了。我说，现在是你做出改变的时候了，因为你明白。( 3:
28).
She is a highly educated PhD. But she did not realize getting that PhD has brought
demise of her own physicality. And that's where the trauma comes. And we see it the
same. We set it that way, then we eat the foods, which actually creates that condition,
feeds that condition. If we change our food habits, we can change the condition, because
we create different strengths of emotion. We don't have the allergies, we don't have the
other things.
她是一位受过高等教育的博士。但她没有意识到，获得博士学位已经导致了她身体的死
亡。这就是创伤的来源。我们看到的是一样的。我们把它设置成这样，然后我们吃食物，
这实际上创造了这种条件，满足了这种条件。如果我们改变我们的饮食习惯，我们可以改
变条件，因为我们创造了不同的情绪力量。我们没有过敏症，我们没有其他的东西。

There's a school of thoughts in the world of medicine that they say when you're allergic
to a food, don't avoid it, start eating bits of it, in micro feeding. Then you find out your
body gets used to it. And you overcome what was in the brain psychosomatically that
became, it shows us as allergy. And it works in many cases. If you're allergic to peanuts,
they say, don't touch peanuts. But if you actually do micro dosage, that you build up that
strength, one day you end up being able to eat a sack of peanuts with nothing.
医学界有一种观点认为，当你对一种食物过敏时，不要回避它，开始吃一点，在微量喂养
中。然后你发现你的身体已经习惯了。你克服了大脑中的心身问题，这就是我们所说的过
敏。它在很多情况下都有效。他们说，如果你对花生过敏，就不要碰花生。但如果你真的
做了微剂量，你建立了力量，有一天你最终可以什么都不吃一袋花生。

But you have to understand the process by it. What brought that allergy. Is it chemically
or psychologically? And then disorders are the same. Why do people have disorder? It's
part of the attention seeking. I don't eat this. So every time the food comes on the table,
I'm the center of attention. (3:30). She doesn't like this, she doesn't like this. And when
you elevate the Soul, that's not there.
但你必须理解它的过程。是什么引起了过敏。是化学上还是心理上？然后疾病也是一样
的。人为什么会有障碍？这是寻求关注的一部分。我不吃这个。所以每次食物上桌，我都
是众人关注的焦点。( 3: 30).她不喜欢这样，她不喜欢这样。当你提升灵魂时，它就不
存在了。

We saw this actually recently with a child. She wouldn't touch vegetables nothing, and
overnight by elevating the Soul, the mother says, she suddenly eats everything. Vegetables are no
problem anymore. Because you elevate it, there is no need to push,
kick, or shouts or crying on the table. You elevate the Soul of the child, because she gets
the attention she's looking. Then you don't have disorders. And sometimes happens in
dimension of physicality, you have to find out why and how.
我们最近在一个孩子身上看到了这个。她什么都不碰蔬菜，一夜之间，通过提升灵魂，这
位母亲说，她突然什么都吃了。蔬菜已经不是问题了。因为你抬高了它，所以没有必要在
桌子上推、踢、喊或哭。你提升了孩子的灵魂，因为她得到了她所期待的关注。那你就没
有精神障碍。有时发生在肉体的维度上，你必须找出原因和方式。

Any other question?

还有其他问题吗？

Q: .. I want to know if the gas unit can be sold individually. And to fertilize the land of 50
hectares, is it enough to use a single unit for this?
问：..我想知道气体装置是否可以单独出售。给 50 公顷的土地施肥，用一个单位就够了
吗？

K- The gas unit? What you want to do? You want to burn the place?
K-气体装置？你想做什么？你想烧了这个地方？
R: Perhaps, well, I'm not sure. But then I'm thinking like in greenhouses, they burn the
methane or propane in order to make CO2, in order to fertilize the plants?
R：也许，嗯，我不确定。但我在想，就像在温室里一样，他们燃烧甲烷或丙烷来制造二
氧化碳，给植物施肥。
K- The greenhouse indoor.
K-室内温室。
R: Yeah, indoor. So I know 50 hectares is not an indoor greenhouse.
R：是啊，室内。所以我知道 50 公顷不是室内温室。

K- No. (3:32).
K-不。( 3: 32).
R: So, perhaps is there any connection there between the gas unit, and…
R：所以，也许气体装置和……之间有什么联系吗？

K- The new technology we are developing doesn't need the gas unit for farming. It's
much more sophisticated. I was talking yesterday to our people that this year maybe the
last time we use these kind of even advanced technologies as Gans's, which we
developed. We move into the next phase, environmental fields for a specific condition.
我们正在开发的新技术不需要用于农业的气体装置。它更复杂。我昨天和我们的人说，今
年可能是我们最后一次使用我们开发的 Gans 这种先进技术。我们进入下一阶段，特定条
件下的环境领域。
Where for example, you can grow rice, and maize, and wheat on the same land at the
same time and all grow the best. They're going through a test phase now.
例如，你可以在同一块土地上同时种植水稻、玉米和小麦，而且都长得最好。他们现在
正在经历一个测试阶段。

For the first time I released to our team, the real way to make the farming Gans's. When I
make things I disguise a lot of things, (under) a lot of things. And then they say, oh, it
does that, but how come when we do it, it doesn't work. For the first time I released what
we call, the touch, which brings the harvest to 3 to 10 times more than average. And we'll
see the results of it in the coming months. As the harvest comes in. As now it's the time to
sow the seeds, as we say, and we'll see what comes next.
我第一次向我们的团队发布了制作农业甘斯的真正方法。当我做东西的时候，我伪装了很多
东西，（在）很多东西下面。然后他们说，哦，它是这样做的，但为什么当我们这样做的时
候，它不起作用。我第一次发布了我们所说的“触摸”，它带来的收获是平均水平的 3 到
10 倍。我们将在接下来的几个月里看到它的结果。随着收获的到来。正如我们所说，现在
是播种的时候了，我们会看到接下来会发生什么。

You don't need to deliver Gans's, you just need to deliver the energy in the right way.
你不需要传递甘斯，你只需要以正确的方式传递能量。

Q: .. . Hello, Mr. Keshe. After applying the pads with Knee Gans, my husband got pain in
his hip. Is it not suitable for him then? Or is there anything that can be done? There are
four milliliters in the front pad and eight milliliters of Gans in the back pad.
问：...你好，凯什先生。在用膝盖甘斯敷上护垫后，我丈夫的臀部感到疼痛。那是不是不
适合他？或者有什么可以做的吗？前垫有四毫升甘斯，后垫有八毫升甘斯。

K- There's a very old English song, it says, the knee joints connected to hip bone, and hip
bone connected, you remember that one?
有一首非常古老的英文歌，上面写着，膝关节连着髋骨，髋骨连着，你还记得这首歌吗？
R: Yes, very well.
R：是的，很好。
K- Would you like to sing it?
你想唱吗？
R: No.
R：不。

K- You fix the knee, and now knee is in the right position, or get into the right position. And when
the knee was in the wrong position, has moved the hip in the wrong position to
be. So you got used to two mistakes together, but one was showing the pain. Now you put
the knee right, the hip has moved to the right position, or is trying to move in the right
position. And this shows itself as a pain. It's not that it's moved, you have corrected a
block. And now, the top which was moved to keep the balance has moved, or trying to
move to be correct.
你修复了膝盖，现在膝盖处于正确的位置，或者进入正确的位置。当膝盖处于错误的位置
时，将髋部移动到错误的位置。所以你习惯了两个错误在一起，但其中一个表现出了痛苦。
现在你把膝盖摆正，髋部已经移动到正确的位置，或者正在试图移动到正确的位置。这本身
就是一种痛苦。不是说它移动了，你已经纠正了一个块。现在，为了保持平衡而移动的顶部
已经移动了，或者试图移动到正确的位置。

Most of you, when you get this problem with the knee, when you do this, you will see it,
the knee moves in strengthening. And now the hip has to correct for the changes done. A
lot of you, especially women. I've talked about this many times before. You love to wear
these beautiful, open, high heeled shoes, or sandals. (3:36). And in that process, a lot of
you accidentally or whatever, get your little toe, getting hit by the furniture, or by the
wall, and you get the pain in it. Just the little toe bends, or your big toe bends. Because
it's open. When you wear a close shoes, you don't have this when you have open shoes.
你们中的大多数人，当你的膝盖出现问题时，当你这样做时，你会看到，膝盖在加强中移
动。现在髋部必须纠正所做的改变。你们很多人，尤其是女人。我之前已经说过很多次了。
你喜欢穿这些美丽的，开放的，高跟鞋，或凉鞋。( 3: 36).在这个过程中，你们中的很多
人会不小心或其他什么，让你的小脚趾，被家具或墙壁击中，你会感到疼痛。只是小脚趾弯
曲，或者大脚趾弯曲。因为它是开放的。当你穿着紧闭的鞋子时，当你穿着敞开的鞋子时，
你就没有这个了。

When these toes move in the center of your foot, there is a nerve, which creates a balance
of the lower part of the body. We have two balancers, one is in our ear and one in our
foot. This goes right in the middle center. And when these toes move, this thing moves. So when
that nerve moves, the ankle has moved to adjust for it. Then the ankle moves to
adjust for that little kick you had on the corner of the table six months ago, comes to your
knee a few months later, then from your knee goes to your hip. And then they call it, you
have sciatic. And then the spine has to adjust for that little change in the toe, which you
kicked two years ago. So now you get the back pain. And then it moves on to the
当这些脚趾在你的脚的中心移动时，有一根神经，它创造了身体下部的平衡。我们有两个平
衡器，一个在耳朵里，一个在脚上。这个正好在中间。当这些脚趾移动时，这个东西也会移
动。所以当神经移动时，脚踝也会移动以适应它。然后脚踝移动以适应六个月前你在桌角的
小踢腿，几个月后到达你的膝盖，然后从你的膝盖到你的臀部。然后他们称它为坐骨神经
痛。然后脊柱必须适应你两年前踢过的脚趾的小变化。所以现在你背痛了。然后它移动到
shoulder pain, because it's going up, everything's adjusting for that little kick you had. And some
of these, if it's repeated, ends up with you, movement of this, what we call, the
spine. And then vertebra has to move and you get disc problems and you have sciatic
problems.
肩膀疼痛，因为它在上升，一切都在适应你的小踢腿。其中一些，如果它被重复，就会
随着你的运动而结束，我们称之为脊柱。然后脊椎骨必须移动，你就会有椎间盘问题，
你就会有坐骨神经问题。

But in fact, your whole problem came two years ago, three years ago, you kick the toe,
you don't remember, it was just something very small. And most of the chiropractors
don't allow us to do anything about it, because you keep on going back, they make money
out of it. If you put your toes right, gradually, all this correction, the knee pain, the hip
pain, the back pain all goes away.
但事实上，你的整个问题发生在两年前，三年前，你踢脚趾，你不记得了，那只是一些
很小的事情。大多数脊椎按摩师不允许我们做任何事情，因为你不断回去，他们从中赚
钱。如果你把你的脚趾放好，慢慢地，所有这些纠正，膝盖疼痛，臀部疼痛，背部疼痛
都消失了。

And I released a video for this using the foot of one of Knowledge Seekers, (3:38). how
to do it. And you get somebody to put your toes right, the foot right, the ankle right. And
then over next, you do 3 times a week, and after a month or two, you feel, oh the pain in
the knee is there, and then the pain in the joint moves up to the hip. And then gradually
all the pains goes, because the body now is going back the way it was born with the
correct lining.
我发布了一个视频，用一个知识寻求者的脚，（3：38）。怎么做。你找人把你的脚趾放
好，脚放好，脚踝放好。接下来，你每周做 3 次，一两个月后，你会感觉到，哦，膝盖疼
痛，然后关节疼痛转移到臀部。然后慢慢地，所有的疼痛都消失了，因为身体现在正在
回到它出生时的样子，有了正确的衬里。

You have two choices, stop wearing these funny shows with the open front, or regularly,
every few months, get somebody to put your toes in line. And I released the video for
how to do it, two or three years ago. We did it, or teaching wise for somebody, and then it
came out to be passed on.
你有两个选择，停止穿这些有趣的衣服，每隔几个月，定期找人把你的脚趾放在线上。
两三年前，我发布了如何做到这一点的视频。我们做到了，或者为某人传授智慧，然后
它就被传承了下来。

Now you use the knee what you call it, Gans, you might have a problem with the ankle or
the hip, because they moved because of the pain and the position of the knee. Now the
knee has gone the right position. They want to go back to normal, so they create their
own pain. You still can use the same position with the hip. But then the other thing is,
now you've corrected the knee, you corrected to the hip. Now the spine start moving, you
get the problems in your hand, and your arms. So you have to get it all lined. Can I use
the thing from my neck for my leg? All depends on you.
现在你使用你所说的膝盖，甘斯，你的脚踝或臀部可能有问题，因为他们因为疼痛和膝
盖的位置而移动。现在膝盖已经到了正确的位置。他们想恢复正常，所以他们制造了自
己的痛苦。你仍然可以使用相同的臀部姿势。但另一件事是，现在你已经纠正了膝盖，
你纠正了臀部。现在脊柱开始移动，你的手和手臂出现了问题。所以你必须把所有的线
都弄好。我能把脖子上的东西用在腿上吗？一切都取决于你。

But when we released this we see a lot of positive response with the people who use the
Knee Gans. And it works because in a way, strengthens. Put everything right in the
position of the Creation, the way you were created. So, the others tried to move to go
back to how they used to be, (3:40). and you see the correction brings the pain in other
ends of the knee, on the ankle or on the hip. And if you use the same, you will get that
moving.
但当我们发布这个时，我们看到了很多使用膝盖甘斯的人的积极反应。它之所以有效，
是因为在某种程度上，它加强了。把一切都放在造物的位置上，就像你被创造的那样。
所以，其他人试图回到他们过去的样子（3：40）。你可以看到，矫正会给膝盖的其他部
位带来疼痛，比如脚踝或臀部。如果你用同样的方法，你会让它动起来。

It has been one of the most effective Gans's Keshe Foundation has ever released as a
field package. And it works, extremely effective. But there is a way if you use it. We
don't release that way of application, because it goes to another dimension. If you use it
in a certain way, for years immediately corrects itself if anything happens. It creates that
condition.
这是 Gans 的 KESHE 基金会发布的最有效的现场包之一。它很有效，非常有效。但如果你
使用它，就会有办法。我们不发布那种方式的应用，因为它进入了另一个维度。如果你
以某种方式使用它，多年来，如果发生任何事情，它会立即自我纠正。它创造了这种条
件。

One of the richest man in United States, family of the richest man in the United States,
suffered with a cancer on the hip. Being a Mormon, he could not use any medicine. The
美国最富有的人之一，美国最富有的人的家庭，患有髋部癌症。作为一个摩门教徒，他
不能使用任何药物。这个
wife becomes a Knowledge Seeker, and comes to understand about the Knowledge
Seekers at the time when we got involved with the rest of Alan Sterling, got in the same
area. She got to know how he was using Keshe Foundation, and the rest. And she makes
a patch without him knowing being a Mormon, and puts it under the mattress, under the
sheet of the husband with the cancer of the hip bone, on the hip. And she's not touching
medicine, she learns how to make certain Gans's talking with some Knowledge Seekers. She makes
her own concoction, as I call it. And the guy was huge, because he was in bed,
very active, waiting more or less to die with four daughters. He's a Knowledge Seekers,
he is on the line, he will call me back says, you should not tell people what happened to
me. (3:42).
妻子成为了一个知识追求者，并开始了解知识追求者，当我们与艾伦·斯特林的其他人在同
一领域合作时。她知道了他是如何使用 KESHE 粉底的，还有其他的。她在他不知道自己是摩
门教徒的情况下做了一个补丁，把它放在床垫下，在患有髋骨癌的丈夫的床单下，在臀部
上。她不碰药，她学会了如何确保甘斯与一些知识追求者交谈。她自己调制，就像我说的这
个家伙很大，因为他躺在床上，非常活跃，或多或少地等待着和四个女儿一起死去。他是一
个知识追求者，他在线上，他会给我回电话说，你不应该告诉别人我发生了什么事。( 3:
42).
But using the Gans's the right way, the cancer has disappeared. He's back to life. He is
very active, we still talk with him. And we didn't know this, he told us. And when he
came in touch as one of the rich mans of the United States, how the technology through
his wife making patches, has helped him with a cancer of the (hip bone) . And this pain in
the hip will not allow him to walk, or do anything else. And the last time I was talking to
him, he was on the truck two o'clock in the morning going somewhere. .. He says, now
I'm living Mr. Keshe, I'm driving 8 hours, 10 hours at night, with the new satellite system
coming into operation, making sure everything is on, what you call it, GPS location,
correct for what is to come. But the change in the hip, he started changing in whole body. And the
cancer is not there. He said, I was lying in bed waiting for the death. Now I'm
running like a rabbit.
但使用甘斯的正确方法，癌症已经消失了。他复活了。他很活跃，我们仍然和他交谈。我们
不知道这一点，他告诉我们。当他作为美国的富人之一接触时，通过他的妻子制作补丁的技
术如何帮助他治疗（髋骨）癌症。髋部的疼痛使他无法行走，或做其他任何事情。我最后一
次和他说话的时候，他凌晨两点在卡车上，要去某个地方。..他说，现在我住在凯舍先生，
我开了 8 个小时的车，晚上开了 10 个小时，新的卫星系统开始运行，确保一切正常，你所
说的 GPS 定位，对即将发生的事情是正确的。但是臀部的变化，他开始改变整个身体。癌症
也不在那里。他说，我躺在床上等待死亡。现在我像兔子一样跑。

R: Mr. Keshe, for someone that's like in the case of Ute who the pain went from the knee
to the hip, would they then since there's no longer pain in the knee, there's no need for the
Knee Gans, in a way. Would they apply that Gans to the hip in that case, and chase the
pain around the body if necessary?
R：凯什先生，对于像尤特这样从膝盖到臀部都疼痛的人来说，他们会吗？既然膝盖不再疼
痛，在某种程度上就不需要膝盖了。在这种情况下，他们会把甘斯涂在髋部，并在必要时追
逐身体周围的疼痛吗？

K- In a way, you can do, but you can't use it on the spine. You can't use on the spine.
在某种程度上，你可以这样做，但你不能把它用在脊柱上。你不能用在脊椎上。

You see what happen, these are Gans's experimental trials. (3:44). And we're talking
about the fields, you are not touching it, you just cover it and use the field of it. And don't
going to touch the body. So now you have to understand, if it's been that much correction,
that the knee is corrected with the fields itself. Now the hip corrects itself. So what has
been the rest? How did the vertebra has moved to accommodate the pain in the knee? You
understand? So, it's not chasing it, you corrected up to the sixth floor, you still got
another ten floors above that are tilted, you understand? But the zero to six, or floor two
to four has been corrected. You haven't corrected the ankle yet. You understand? Once
you put the knee in position, sometimes accidentally we do damage without anything
else, but the rest most accommodate it.
你看到发生了什么，这些是甘斯的实验测试。( 3: 44).我们谈论的是场，你不能碰它，你
只是覆盖它并使用它的场。别去碰尸体。所以现在你必须明白，如果有那么多的修正，膝盖
是用磁场本身来修正的。现在髋部自我纠正。那么剩下的是什么？脊椎骨是如何移动以适应
膝盖疼痛的？你明白吗？所以，它不是在追它，你纠正到了第六层，你还有另外十层是倾斜
的，你明白吗？但是零到六，或者二到四楼已经被纠正了。你的脚踝还没有矫正。你明白
吗？一旦你把膝盖放在适当的位置，有时我们会在没有任何其他东西的情况下意外地造成损
伤，但其余的大部分都能适应它。
I spent years with this disease, with this problem. I even went back into disc operation in
2,000. I did a micro surgery to get the disc, and then I found out, that it's actually how the
system works. And since I put the system in order there is no problem.
我和这个病，和这个问题一起度过了很多年。我甚至在 2000 年回到了椎间盘手术。我做了
一个显微手术来取出椎间盘，然后我发现，这实际上是系统的工作方式。因为我把系统整理
好了，所以没有问题。
This Knee Gans is done for a specific purpose. For you has been the pain in the knee. But
what happened with the cartilage? What happened with the ligaments? Have they been
reproduced? Have you taken an MRI, before they tell you, you need a cartilage
replacement or whatever? Have your cartilage, have the ligaments have been
strengthened? It taken me 20 years to develop this Knee Gans. (3:46). It's not something
accidental. And because I've been through it, I know how it has to be done. (Mehrenez,
last years said, I had a dream you have a problem with the knee, .. I said, yes. Took me a
week, seven days to correct the knee, and it's gone. And every time ?? (goes out), it
corrects itself, I don't need to do anything with it.
这个膝盖甘斯是为了特定的目的而做的。对你来说是膝盖的疼痛。但软骨怎么了？韧带
怎么了？它们被复制了吗？你有没有做过核磁共振，在他们告诉你，你需要软骨置换或
其他什么之前？你的软骨，韧带有没有得到加强？我花了 20 年的时间来开发这个膝盖。(
3: 46).这不是偶然的。因为我经历过，所以我知道该怎么做。（Mehrenez，去年说，我
做了一个梦，你的膝盖有问题，……我说，是的。我花了一周七天的时间来矫正膝盖，
然后它就消失了。每一次？（出去），它会自我纠正，我不需要对它做任何事情。

This is what we shared with you as a, what you call it, as a knowledge sharing. It's one of
the most effective fields. If you look at it, it's like the cups we sell with the fields
replicators we call it. This Gans is the same, it's a field replicator. But instead of the Gans
water, it's your body. It's not a medicine, it's a plasma field ？?.
这就是我们与你们分享的，你们所说的知识分享。这是最有效的领域之一。如果你仔细
观察它，它就像我们卖的杯子，上面有我们称之为磁场复制器的东西。这个甘斯是一样
的，它是一个现场复制器。但不是甘斯的水，而是你的身体。这不是药，这是等离子
场。?.

R: Mr. Keshe, excuse me, if somebody have their knee surgery and replacement of the
knee actually with some sort of titanium or other metal. Would the Knee Gans not be
recommended in that case? Or is it okay?
R：凯什先生，不好意思，如果有人做了膝盖手术，用某种钛或其他金属来替换膝盖。在
这种情况下，膝盖甘斯不会被推荐吗？还是可以？

K- No, do not use it. We prefer not to. If you have a hip replacement or a knee
replacement, do not go near it. It's actually is, I think it's on the back of the bottle. We
always said.
不，不要用它。我们宁愿不要。如果你做了髋关节置换或膝关节置换，不要靠近它。它
实际上是，我想它在瓶子的背面。我们总是说。

This is a field application system, it's not a medicine. It's just create energies that works
in this way and this is a trial, so we get the feedback. (3:48). It's nice to know it got rid of
the pain, or what you got it, but this is the side effect of the injury, which was created and
now the hip is putting itself right, so it moves up to the hip.
这是一个现场应用系统，不是药品。它只是创造了以这种方式工作的能量，这是一个试
验，所以我们得到了反馈。( 3: 48).很高兴知道它消除了疼痛，或者你得到了什么，但
这是受伤的副作用，它已经产生了，现在髋部正在恢复正常，所以它向上移动到髋部。

And yesterday we were told, we can produce more of it. It is a very time consuming
production to do. Limited numbers for us is made. We might repeat it again. But it's
something you can keep for years, if ever comes, whatever is there. Be it for the wrist, be
it for the fingers, joints. It's always, then feedback to us. These feedbacks you give to us
like this confirms the correctness of the…Because we're going to use this in the systems
for the, what you call it, wellness centers. And we already, because of the results, we
already tested with other conditions, and it's correct.
昨天我们被告知，我们可以生产更多。这是一个非常耗时的生产。我们的数量有限。我
们可能会再重复一遍。但它是你可以保存多年的东西，如果有的话，不管那里有什么。
无论是手腕，手指，关节。它总是，然后反馈给我们。你给我们的这些反馈证实了…因
为我们将在你所说的健康中心的系统中使用它。我们已经，因为结果，我们已经测试了
其他条件，它是正确的。

But you get to turn this is…It's like the way when we put the glasses out. We put there
for you to test it and the feedback gave us a lot in setting up of other systems which we
developed. We produced a limited number of these, and we might produce a second
cycle. But that'll be it. It's not something…It's like these discs you take, it takes two to
three months to produce this black disks. But it's nice to know is effective, it does what it
says. (3:50).
但你要把这变成…就像我们把眼镜拿出来一样。我们把它放在那里让你测试它，反馈给
了我们很多关于我们开发的其他系统的设置。我们生产的数量有限，我们可能会生产第
二个周期。但就这样了。这不是什么……就像你拿的这些光盘，需要两到三个月才能生
产出这种黑色的光盘。但很高兴知道它是有效的，它说到做到。( 3: 50).

Any other question? Or shall we call it the day. We are nearly to one o'clock.
还有其他问题吗？或者我们今天就到此为止。我们快到一点了。
R: Yes, if you could just answer, maybe a quick answer to one or two more questions that
would be great we'll have that wrapped up. Seven star in the YouTube ask, is carbon a
difference between Mag and Grav of the same plasmas packages? Is that the reason Nano
is always graphite structured?
R：是的，如果你能回答，也许能快速回答一两个问题，那就太好了，我们会把它总结出
来。七星在 YouTube 上问，碳是相同等离子体包的 MAG 和 GRAV 之间的区别吗？这就是纳米
总是石墨结构的原因吗？

K- Can you repeat?

你能重复一遍吗？

R: Is carbon a difference between magnetic and gravitational, as the same plasma

package?
R：碳是磁性和重力之间的区别，就像同样的等离子体包一样？

K- Yes.
K-是的。
R: Is that the reason Nano is always graphite structured?
R：这就是纳米总是石墨结构的原因吗？

K- Graphite structure because is the…When we call it Nano graphite structured, it's not
actually carbon. It's the fields which they create, give that effect.
K-石墨结构，因为是…当我们称它为纳米石墨结构时，它实际上并不是碳。这是他们创造的
场，给出了这种效果。

When we speak about C14 it's the effect of the fields created by Deuterium, which creates
that condition. You have to understand how C14, we call C14 as an energy works. How
much packages is in it. It's like a bag with some little loafs of bread in it, or so many
slices of bread. It cannot be any, you cannot bring more slices out of what you already
sliced. But how it shows itself, does it gives one slice, or it gives you ten slices out to be
consumed or to be used ?? not to be ?? interacted.
当我们谈论 C14 时，它是由氘产生的场的影响，它创造了这种条件。你必须了解 C14，我们
称之为 C14 作为一种能量是如何工作的。里面有多少包裹？它就像一个袋子，里面装着一些
小面包，或者很多片面包。它不可能是任何东西，你不能从你已经切好的东西中拿出更多的
切片。但它如何显示自己，它是给你一片，还是给你十片来消费或使用？不是？互动了。

The H originally when it starts as a plasma, and then in the splitting and interaction
becomes Deuterium. Then the deuterium itself goes through the same process. (3:52). By
interaction with the fields around it, it allows it to maintain, create speed of motion,
which in that speed of motion interacts with the other fields which leads to interaction,
absorption, or creation of more fields of same strength. This is what happens in Plasma
Technology, which in balance with the rest of the fields of the Universe is about the field
of strength of the seven neutron you call it, what we call, the plasma energy.
H 最初是作为等离子体开始的，然后在分裂和相互作用中变成了氘。然后氘本身也经历了同
样的过程。( 3: 52).通过与它周围的场相互作用，它允许它保持、产生运动速度，在该运
动速度中，运动速度与其他场相互作用，这导致相互作用、吸收或产生更多相同强度的场。
这就是等离子体技术中发生的事情，它与宇宙中其他领域的平衡是关于七个中子的强度场，
我们称之为等离子体能量。

Not with the atomic number. We look at the field force factor. And that creates a
condition of C14, and the connection of the carbons. Because C14 itself comes from the
production of C12. In stepping down it becomes C12. And step backs up to C14, when it
comes to the space.
不是用原子序数。我们来看看场力因素。这创造了 C14 的条件，以及碳的连接。因为 C14 本
身来自于 C12 的生产。在退步时，它变成 C12。当涉及到空间时，退到 C14。

And this is part of the process of the Creation, creating of itself and then using itself to
create the next condition. We call it, the weight and the mass on Earth. Read the book
number one, I explained this in very detail, how we create mass, and how we create the
weight. And how come the mass is the same, but the weight is different? The weight is
interaction at the mass, which itself created from the fields of the Inertia of the Earth with
the gravitational field of the Earth. It's the third effect of interaction of the first origin. (3:54). We
call it, the weight.
这是创造过程的一部分，创造自己，然后用自己来创造下一个条件。我们称之为地球上的重
量和质量。阅读第一本书，我非常详细地解释了这一点，我们如何创造质量，以及我们如何
创造重量。为什么质量是一样的，但重量是不同的？重量是质量的相互作用，质量本身是由
地球的惯性场和地球的引力场产生的。这是第一个起源的相互作用的第三个效应。( 3:
54).我们称之为重量。
And now, the first effect which is based on the interaction of field of the Solar System,
which is base common denominator with the field of the gravity of the Moon, makes it
lighter. Because it has a different dimension of interaction, MaGrav strength interaction. Otherwise
it's the same. It's interaction of the interaction, and interaction of the original
field with the interaction of the interaction. We call it, weight.
现在，第一个效应是基于太阳系场的相互作用，这是与月球引力场的基本公分母，使它变得
更轻。因为它有不同维度的相互作用，MAGRAV 强度相互作用。否则是一样的。它是相互作
用的相互作用，原生场的相互作用与相互作用的相互作用。我们称之为重量。

I showed in the first pictures of today when I draw you the circles with the H, tritium,
helium, what you call it, and there on. Once you understand this, the world of plasma
become your oyster.
我在今天的第一张图片中展示了，当我给你们画 H，氚，氦的圆圈时，你们叫它什么，
等等。一旦你明白了这一点，等离子世界就变成了你的牡蛎。

Q: .. Mr. Keshe. It's mentioned somewhere on the Internet that MaGravs plasma energy
can charge a conventional mobile phone by requiring no conversion. Is this true?
问：..凯舍先生。在互联网上的某个地方提到，磁引力场的等离子能量可以通过不需要转换
的方式为传统手机充电。这是真的吗？

K- In some MaGrav condition fields if you can match it. But you have to understand how
to match it. And in the very near future, we release this. You can charge your phone
anywhere in the world, by your main system, which sits at home. The, what we call, the
new spherical Plasma Power Units, which now delivered to Europe from our factory from
Iran, are set to do this.
K-在某些 MAGRAV 条件字段中，如果您可以匹配它。但你必须明白如何搭配它。在不久的将
来，我们将发布这个。你可以在世界上任何地方，通过你家里的主系统给你的手机充电。我
们所说的，新的球形等离子动力装置，现在从我们的工厂从伊朗运到欧洲，准备这样做。

You can charge your car, driving anywhere in ？ ? earth. It's what Tesla did. (3:56). But
now you have to have the right connection at the other end. You have to have the right
tool to convert it back to use. I was talking to our guys this week, yesterday, day before
that…You saw the headphone in the demonstration standing on the stand, it's actually
just a stand. The headphone gets its energy from the generator on the other table. And I
said, why don't we put them, the headphone directly on the unit? Why do we need the
stand? It just bought when we bought the Head Units, they came that way. We use the
same stand, but the transmission is taken out of it. The electrical transmission. Because
we don't use it, we don't need it.
你可以给你的车充电，开到任何地方。?地球。特斯拉就是这么做的。( 3: 56).但现在
你必须在另一端有正确的连接。你必须有合适的工具才能把它转换回来使用。这周，昨
天，前天，我和我们的人谈过…你在演示中看到耳机站在支架上，它实际上只是一个支
架。耳机从另一张桌子上的发电机获得能量。我说，为什么我们不把耳机直接放在单元
上呢？我们为什么需要证人席？它只是在我们购买头部单元时购买的，它们是这样来
的。我们使用相同的支架，但变速器从支架中取出。电力传输。因为我们不使用它，所
以我们不需要它。

And I'm sure in next few months and whatever, we'll start introducing the magnetic fields
producers as an energy transfer. It'll be done. This is the gift we'll take with us to China. If you can
change the energy consumption production of China, don't forget they produce
one coal power generation a week, into operation for years. If you can, with the new
technology close two thirds of them. With physically, correctly, replacing them back with
plasma technology, we have brought China to meet its own commitment to what we call,
the carbon (foot) print.
我相信在接下来的几个月里，我们将开始引入磁场发生器作为能量转移。会完成的。这是我
们要带去中国的礼物。如果你能改变中国的能源消费和生产，别忘了他们每周生产一次煤发
电，投入运行多年。如果可以的话，用新技术接近他们的三分之二。在物理上，正确地，用
等离子技术取代他们，我们已经让中国实现了自己的承诺，我们称之为碳（足）印。

As I said to one of the world politicians in past few days, (3:58). if you give me the
material in the power lines, once you don't need the power station, because you're not
putting any more (power) grids in, I can feed the whole nation of yours. You understand? So, the
power transmission the way we have got used to it, the way Tesla brought it back
and come to where it is, now with the new technologies it's not needed.
正如我在过去几天里对一位世界政治家所说的那样（3：58）。如果你把电线里的材料给
我，一旦你不需要发电站，因为你不会再安装更多的电网，我就可以养活你的整个国家。你
明白吗？所以，我们已经习惯了电力传输的方式，特斯拉把它带回来，现在有了新技术，它
就不需要了。

We need one central station power generation, which is in the center of the Earth to feed
the whole of the Earth. We have not gained the knowledge. I have the knowledge, but
then I become a magician. We see this energy in the form of lightning and thunder. We
我们需要一个位于地球中心的中央发电站来为整个地球提供能源。我们还没有获得知识。我
有知识，但后来我变成了一个魔术师。我们看到这种能量以闪电和雷声的形式出现。我们
need to know how to tap into it. We tapped into thermal energy, we tapped into the water
energy, we tapped in solar energy. But we haven't tapped to the essence of our own
Creation on this planet, which comes from the center of the Earth. The magnetic fields,
which we call it, gravitational magnetic field. If you can tap into it, you don't need any
power stations. Every unit is a station of power for itself, be it the light, the television, the
fridge, your mobile phone.
需要知道如何利用它。我们利用热能，我们利用水能，我们利用太阳能。但我们还没有
挖掘到我们自己在这个星球上创造的本质，它来自地球的中心。磁场，我们称之为引力
磁场。如果你能利用它，你就不需要任何发电站。每个单元都是自己的能量站，无论是
电灯、电视、冰箱还是你的手机。

Geomagnetic electric power has not been tapped into by Man, and our new systems are,
they're stepped towards that way. Maybe if I get the right communication with the
Chinese authorities in the next few weeks, we'll release that technology to China. (4:00). In
respect to the GDP transfer to the Foundation for development. Which means China
does not need to import any more coal from Australia and the rest of it. We don't need to
burn a fuel to transmit cars, transportation.
地磁电力还没有被人类利用，而我们的新系统正在朝着这个方向发展。也许如果我在未
来几周内与中国当局进行正确的沟通，我们将向中国发布该技术。( 4: 00).关于国内生
产总值向发展基金会的转移。这意味着中国不需要从澳大利亚和其他国家进口更多的煤
炭。我们不需要燃烧燃料来传输汽车，运输。

Now with electric cars, what are we doing? We are putting the power production in the
background on the hills in nuclear power stations and the rest. We haven't solved the
problem. We were creating more rubbish, carbon fingerprint, than when we were running
the cars. So the only solution is to come through China, as one of the major industrial
nations. Implication, application of it will go through the International, what you call it,
cycle.
现在有了电动汽车，我们在做什么？我们把电力生产放在山上的核电站和其他地方的背
景中。我们还没有解决问题。我们制造了更多的垃圾，碳指纹，比我们开车的时候还
多。因此，唯一的解决办法是通过中国，作为一个主要的工业国。言外之意，它的应用
将经历国际，你所说的周期。

Then we don't need these, what you call, nuclear power stations and this new mayhem
and building power stations, coal power stations and the rest. If you understand, if you
ever understood by Man, what I'm doing to the Man, Man would run like a rabbit. With
this technology and the advancement it brings to humanity, transportation, transmutation,
and easiness to access to the knowledge of the Creation, I'm creating a lot of
unemployment. Which very knowledgeable unemployment, (4:02). because people all
get to know how to use, or how it is to travel ？? Soul. So this allows a massive excursion
of humans Soul into space, with the correct conduct.
那么我们就不需要这些，你所说的，核电站和这种新的混乱和建设发电站，煤电站和其
他的。如果你理解，如果你曾经理解人类，我对人类所做的一切，人类会像兔子一样逃
跑。有了这种技术和它给人类带来的进步，交通，嬗变，以及容易获得造物的知识，我
正在制造大量的失业。非常有见识的失业，（4：02）。因为人们都知道如何使用，或者
如何旅行。?灵魂。因此，这允许人类灵魂以正确的行为大规模地进入太空。

When you have everything you have, as our friend said, 16 days hasn't eaten anything. And you
have to understand these 16 days he hasn't eaten anything, the supermarket
hasn't had money from his pocket into theirs. So if 1,000 people in his area do the same,
the supermarket has no customers going in. It goes down the line to the distribution, to
the farmer, and the rest of it. So, it'll create a huge unemployment.
当你拥有你所拥有的一切，就像我们的朋友说的，16 天没有吃任何东西。你必须明白，
这 16 天他没有吃任何东西，超市没有从他的口袋里拿钱到他们的口袋里。因此，如果他
所在地区的 1000 人也这样做，超市就没有顾客了。它沿着这条线一直到分配，到农民，
以及其余的部分。所以，这会造成巨大的失业。

But when unemployment understood why, because the transport guy is himself one of
those who is not eating, and down the line, and down the line. Then it creates a Man of
peace, because we have what we need, why should we fight for it? And then allows the
Man to become "Man of the Universe" in a peaceful condition. I don't kill on Earth, why
should I.
但当失业时，我明白了为什么，因为运输工人本身就是那些不吃东西的人之一，而且一
直不吃。然后它创造了一个和平的人，因为我们有我们需要的东西，我们为什么要为它
而战？然后让这个人在和平的状态下成为“宇宙之人”。我在地球上不杀人，我为什么
要杀人？

Man has not understood what we planned for the Man. In a very nice way, my
grandmother used to say, you cut the neck with a fine silk line, you don't even feel it it's
going through you. You don't need the knife to cut man from the habit of killing. With
男人不明白我们为他计划了什么。以一种非常友好的方式，我的祖母过去常说，你用一
条细丝线割断脖子，你甚至感觉不到它正在穿过你。你不需要用刀来割断人杀人的习
惯。和
the silk of the knowledge we change the habit of the Man. This is what is on the card. And I
always achieve what I came to do. (4:04).
知识之丝我们改变了人的习惯。这是卡片上的内容。我总是能实现我想要做的事情。(
4: 04).

The next step is for us to deliver the energy technology, wellness technology, space
technology to the nation like China. And then the next will follow. Another Chinese from
import, as Trump said, China, China, China. Because China allows the right process of
the growth for any intellectual rights.
下一步我们将把能源技术、健康技术和空间技术提供给像中国这样的国家。然后下一个就
会接踵而至。另一个来自进口的中国，正如特朗普所说，中国，中国，中国。因为中国允
许任何知识产权成长的权利过程。

See you next week. Hopefully join us on (this) Sunday at 12 o'clock, dining with the
Creator. And join us on the 24th of March, sitting with the world leaders. It's an
obligation to be there, if you want to lead. Thank you very much for today, and hopefully
we meet soon.
下周见。希望在（本）周日 12 点加入我们，与造物主共进晚餐。并在 3 月 24 日加入我
们，与世界领导人坐在一起。如果你想领导，就有义务在那里。今天非常感谢大家，希望
我们能尽快见面。

R: Excellent Mr. Keshe, you made a SASI1650 cry today. They say, thank you very, the
big heart, and I cried because it touched me a lot. It is so interesting. So, thank you. That
was the newcomer to the workshops. This happens from time to time. Thank you, Mr.
Keshe.
R：太棒了，Keshe 先生，你今天把 SASI1650 弄哭了。他们说，非常感谢你，大心脏，我
哭了，因为它触动了我很多。太有趣了。所以，谢谢你。那是车间里新来的人。这种情况
时有发生。谢谢你，凯什先生。

K- Thank you very much.

非常感谢。

477 KSW March 16, 2023

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