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To sum up, therefore, one may say that all the real inquiries
(I am not speaking of casual information such as any traveller
would bring home) which Herodotus made during his journey
to the Black Sea-except those about the origin of the Scythian
people-and in the first part of his Egyptian journey, concerned
problems of general, not of special, geography, and that like-
wise all the important points he visited in these journeys are
also important for general geography.
But so far only the material side of the problem is involved.
It will perhaps be of even greater importance to analyze the
method followed by Herodotus at that time. Now it is
obvious that he criticises the general geographical system of
Hecataeus and his followers and is revolting against the whole
rationalistic and systemizing spirit of Hecatean geography
from a more empiristic point of view. Thus from the outset
the often remarked empiricism of Herodotus seems to stand
out against the rationalism of Hecataeus. But this is only
part of the truth. For not only is it true that in the inferences
which he draws when comparing the length of the Danube
with the length of the Nile, he himself indulges in a systema-
tisation which is perhaps worse than any that can be found in
the fragments of Hecataeus, but his view of the extent of
Europe to the north also is based on a generalisation no less
rash than Hecataeus' conception of a circular earth composed
of three continents of equal area. For the thought of Herodotus
seems to have been that since most of the things on earth are of
irregular and non-geometrical shape, the same would probably
apply to the earth itself. But here, as well as in his estimate
of the relative extent of the continents, the systemizing and
geometrical apriorism of Hecataeus turned out to be at least a
little nearer to the truth than the empiristic generalisations of
Herodotus.
These discordant elements in the method of Herodotus can
be observed not only in his treatment of the theory of conti-
nents or the problem of the sources of the Nile, but it has been
pointed out long ago by Bauer and Macan that throughout the
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first part of the fourth and the whole-not only the first part-
of the second book there is a very strong element of rationalism
which is not found in the other parts of the work. This has
even become one of their chief arguments for the theory that
the fourth and the second books must have been written
towards the end of the career of Herodotus. For they
thought that this fact could only be explained by the assump-
tion that Herodotus had already written all the other parts of
his work as ein naiv gldubiger Mann, to quote Bauer, when he
began to imbibe rationalism in Egypt. This assumption,
however, is inconsistent with all the results of the present
analysis of the work; and the facts on which it is based will
be explained otherwise.
But before trying to give an explanation of this kind it is
necessary to turn back to our investigation into the method of
Herodotus. It seems to have been a strange mixture of
empiricism and rationalism, an empiristic rationalism, if such a
paradoxical expression may be allowed And in its origin it
was closely connected with a special criticism of Hecatean
geography. But here a further observation can be made.
The criticism of Hecataeus himself had been merely ration-
alistic and had been directed against the sagas and legends as
well as against the poets by whom they had been told. The
second part of this characterisation however applies also to the
criticism of Herodotus. For the conception treated by him
with the utmost contempt is that of the river Ocean flowing
round a circular earth. And here he says expressly that he
thinks that this conception was an invention of Homer (ii 23).
Nor is it mere coincidence that at the beginning of his geo-
graphical treatise in the fourth book (iv 32) he also criticises
Homer and Hesiod. So this perhaps may give us a deeper
insight into his motives and a better knowledge of his starting
point.
The conception of a circular earth surrounded by the river
Okeanos is very old and a product of that very early and
primitive rationalism or apriorism which arises out of the
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yet explained why in the course of his journey to the Black Sea
he made not only very careful inquiries into the geography of
northern Europe, but also into the origin of the people of the
Scyths. But this can now also very easily be explained. The
problem of the origin of the Scythians is closely connected with
the problem of the origin of mankind; and this is a problem of
exactly the same kind as that of the shape of the earth. It has
always and everywhere been one of the chief objects of primitive
speculation; accordingly it had been dealt with by the more
speculative spirits among the early Greek poets like Hesiod and
Pherekydes of Syros. Furthermore, the account given of it by
Herodotus in the fourth book (5-10), as in the case of his
geographical criticism there, has- its analogue in a passage of
the second book (2f), where he tells the story how the Egyptian
king Psammetichos tried to find out which people was the
oldest one in the world, and by a very ingenious device came to
the conclusion that it was the Phrygians. The method of
inquiry followed by Herodotus in this case is of course a little
different from the method of which he makes use in his geo-
graphical investigations, since the problem is concerned with
the past, and therefore no testimony of personal witnesses
could possibly be available. But, apart from that, the story of
the curious experiment made by king Psammetichos reveals the
same mixture of a very naive rationalism with real or imaginary
experience as that which is the most characteristic feature of
his criticism of legendary and Hecatean geography. In a way
it comes even nearer to the rationalism of Hecataeus himself.
A similar observation can be made as to the story told by
Herodotus about the origin of the Scythian people itself. He
tells us that the Scythians considered themselves the youngest
people of all. This is very curious. For almost all nations
have a natural tendency to regard themselves as very old
Herodotus himself says that the Egyptians had been convinced
that they were the oldest people in the world until Psammetichos
found out that this could not be true-and it is not very li-kely
that the Scythians should have been so very different from all
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B. Medes
C. Intermediate epoch, when the Medes have freed themselves from the Assyrian
yoke, but the Assyrians are still ruling over the other nations of Asia.
D. Assyrians
E. Mythical forefathers
So this calculation ends almost exactly with the date of Herakles which can be
gathered from II 143 and which is also the date given by Hecataeus.
21 The figures given for Phraortas and Deiokes in I 130 have to be exchanged
in order to make them fit in with the figures given for the whole length of the
reign of the Medes in I 130. Also 53 years would be an unreasonable figure in
the case of Deiokes itself, since he is supposed to be already a rather old man
when his reign begins. But this exchange of two special figures does not affect
the result of the calculation.
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1. Kroisos 13 558-546 I 86
2. Alyattes (contemporary of Kyaxares, 57 615-558 I 25
against whom he has to defend his
realm)
3. Sadyattes 12 627-615 I 16
4. Ardys 49 676-627 I 16
5. Gyges 38 714-676 I 14
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