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Staff present:
ATTY. MENELEO A. AGUIRRE
Branch Clerk of Court
Appearances:
APP JP ANTHONY D. CUÑADA
Public Prosecutor
INTERPRETER:
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
For: Murder
COURT:
Second call.
***SECOND CALL***
COURT:
Call again case No.7.
INTERPRETER:
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
Accused is present.
COURT:
Guzman, balik ka sa witness stand.
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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INTERPRETER:
Witness on stand is the accused himself. He will be testifying under
the same oath on continuation of his direct-examination testimony.
ATTY. GEVERO:
May I proceed, Your Honor?
Q : Mr. Witness, do you remember during your last testimony that you
mentioned that together with your sister, before going home, you drop
by behind a jeepney where your father and Julie Tolones is having an
altercation, is that correct?
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Your Honor please, I think the witness, Your Honor, did not say that
the vehicle is a jeepney, Your Honor.
COURT:
Okay.
ATTY. GEVERO:
May I rephrase that, Your Honor?
COURT:
Okay. Answer. Your answer? Ang ulihi nga gin testigaran mo diri
nga ikaw, upod sang imo utod nga babayi, antes kamo nag pauli,
naghapit sa salakyan kung diin ang biktima nga si Julie Tolones kag
ang imo amay nagasu-ay, correct?
COURT:
You clarify what kind of vehicle was that.
ATTY. GEVERO:
Yes, Your Honor.
Q : Mr. Witness, do you remember what kind of vehicle was that at that
night?
COURT:
Okay.
Q : So, it was not a truck?
Q : Was it a jeepney?
COURT:
Okay. So how do we say it, Atty. Gevero?
ATTY. GEVERO:
A multi-cab.
COURT:
Q : So it was a multi-cab.
COURT:
Okay. that settles. Okay, Atty. Gigawin?
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Yes, Your Honor. Thank you, Your Honor.
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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COURT:
You continue.
ATTY. GEVERO:
Q : You testified that when you tell your father and Julie Tolones to calm
their selves, suddenly Julie Tolones got a bolo and attempted to hack
you, is that correct?
A : Yes, Sir.
Q : Now my question is, what did you do when Julie Tolones did that?
COURT:
You repeat your question.
ATTY. GEVERO:
Yes, Your Honor.
A : I told him to stop because you are already disturbing the people who
are already sleeping inside the house.
Q : After saying that, Mr. Witness, did you and your sister go home
already?
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Your Honor, the question is leading. I think the witness did not say
that he was on his way, Your Honor.
COURT:
There was a basis, Atty. Gigawin. Ang hambal sini kagaina antis
kamo nagpauli sang imo utod naghapit kamo sa likod sang salakyan
kung sa diin nagasu-ay ang biktima kag ang iya amay. May basis.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Yes, Your Honor.
ATTY. GEVERO:
What is your answer?
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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A : Yes, Sir.
COURT:
Q : Did you ever come back? Okay. Were you able to reach your house?
Q : When you reached home, did you ever go back to the place where
you left Julie Tolones and your father?
COURT:
So denial.
ATTY. GEVERO:
Q : And Mr. Witness, when you arrived home together with your sister,
what did you do next if any?
Q : And around what time, Mr. Witness, did you wake up, Mr. Witness that
morning?
COURT:
Q : Did you hear of any news about what happened to Julie Tolones in the
early morning of 25 September 2014?
Q : Of Pilar.
Q : And then you and Jovy Dela Cruz went to Salong, Balasan in the
same morning, correct?
Q : And at eleven-thirty o’clock in the morning of the same day, you were
brought back to the Pilar Municipal Police Station, correct?
COURT:
Anything else?
ATTY. GEVERO:
Q : After going to the Pilar Municipal Police Station, did they put you
inside the jail?
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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A : Yes, Sir.
Q : The next day, Mr. Witness, were you able to get out of the cell?
ATTY. GEVERO:
I have no more direct, Your Honor.
COURT:
Cross?
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
For a while, Your Honor. Yes, Your Honor, please.
A : Yes, Ma’am.
Q : On September 24, 2014, do you remember if you had a bolo with you
when you went to your work as a farmer?
ATTY. GEVERO:
Your Honor please, the witness did not testify that he went to the farm
on that day, Your Honor.
COURT:
Atty. Gigawin, let’s go to the basics, okay? What is the difference
concerning the matters on cross-examination between an ordinary
witness and the accused? If the witness being cross-examined is an
ordinary witness, meaning, not the accused, anything under the sun
which is relevant can be asked of him but if the witness to be cross-
examined is the accused, only matters taken during his direct can be
asked during cross-examination, correct? Why is that so? That is
because if the Court will allow the cross-examination to cover things
not included in the direct, that would violate the right of the accused
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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ATTY. GIGAWIN:
We submit, Your Honor.
COURT:
Only on matters taken during the direct.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Yes, Your Honor. We submit, Your Honor. May I proceed, Your Honor?
Q : When you left the wake of your Lola, Mr. Witness, you mentioned that
you passed by a group of people who are drinking, is that correct?
A : Yes, Ma’am.
Q : And you also said that you joined the people who were drinking at that
time?
COURT:
Okay.
Q : Now, the people you joined drinking, how many were they?
Q : You joined them at two-thirty and you left them also at two-thirty, is
that what you mean?
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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Q : Could you tell the Court how many shots you took?
A : A small glass.
INTERPRETER:
The witness is demonstrating the size of the glass with his left hand to
be more or less two (2) inches in height, Your Honor.
COURT:
Q : Were the shots you took filled that glass?
COURT:
Drunkenness could either be considered as an aggravating or
mitigating, correct?
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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ATTY. GEVERO:
Yes, Your Honor.
COURT:
Okay. Continue.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Thank you, Your Honor.
Q : How about the voice of your father, did you hear the voice of your
father from where you were drinking at that time?
A : No, Ma’am.
Q : And you also did not see him from where you were standing?
A : No, Ma’am.
Q : And then the person who was together with you drinking at that time, a
certain Bongbong told you that, you have to check on your father
because he is having an altercation with Julie Tolones. Do you
confirm that?
A : Yes.
Q : And then you also mentioned that you check with your father and Julie
Tolones. Did you see them in front of the multicab?
A : No, Ma’am.
COURT:
Q : Okay. But did you check on your father and Julie Tolones?
Q : You saw them when you were already going home from the store?
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Q : When you approached your father and Julie Tolones, Mr. Witness, can
you tell this Honorable Court your distance and position in relation to
the two of them?
A : Yes, Ma’am.
Q : You mentioned earlier that Julie Tolones attempted to grab his bolo to
hack you. Do you confirm that?
A : Yes, Ma’am.
Q : When you say “attempted to grab his bolo”, do you mean that Julie
Tolones was able to pull his bolo?
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
May I proceed, Your Honor?
Q : So Mr. Witness, when Julie Tolones attempted to hack you with his
bolo, you mentioned that you only told him to stop what they are doing
because are disturbing the people who are already sleeping. Do you
confirm that?
A : Yes, Ma’am.
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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Q : Don’t you remember, Mr. Witness, that during your previous direct-
examination, you mentioned that when Julie Tolones attempted to
hack you, you grabbed the bolo from his hand?
A : Yes, Ma’am.
Q : So which is correct, Mr. Witness? You grabbed the bolo from Julie
Tolones, or, you just ignored it and just told him to stop what they are
doing because they are disturbing the people who are already
sleeping?
A : I grabbed the bolo from Julie Tolones and I turned over it to my father
because he is a CVO.
COURT:
Q : And then you left?
Q : So, you and your father were living in the same house at that time?
COURT:
Atty. Gigawin.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Q : You also mentioned, Mr. Witness, that you proceeded home and then
you slept. How about your father? Did you know if your father went
home on that night?
COURT:
Q : Did you ever try to ask your father what ultimately happened between
him and Julie Tolones on that night?
Q : Even up to now?
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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COURT:
Atty. Gigawin, that’s your call whether to proceed or not to proceed.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
May I proceed, Your Honor?
ATTY. GEVERO:
Objection, Your Honor, misleading.
COURT:
No, no. Okay.
COURT:
Atty. Gigawin, are you done?
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Just a few questions, Your Honor.
Q : When Juvy Dela Cruz went to you in Brgy. Salong, Balasan, Iloilo, Mr.
Witness…..
ATTY. GEVERO:
Objection, Your Honor, misleading. The witness did not testify that
Kgwd. Dela Cruz went to him in Brgy. Salongh, Balasan.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
I think the witness testified, Your Honor.
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Okay.
Q : Who told Juvy Dela Cruz that you will surrender? Was it you, your
father, or Juvy Dela Cruz?
Q : Did Juvy Dela Cruz tell you why will you surrender?
A : He told me to surrender.
Q : Did you ask why you will surrender, and for what reason?
A : Yes, I asked him why will I surrender because I do not know what was
my fault or wrongdoing.
Q : At that time, Mr. Witness, you were not yet aware that Julie Tolones
was already dead?
A : No, Ma’am.
COURT:
Atty. Gigawin, the Court apologizes. Lantawa bala ginapaamin mo na
siya, Gina incriminate mo na siya sa imo mga pamangkot. But it
started it all when the Court asked him those questions.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
I am only asking him, Your Honor, if was there a reason for him to
surrender if he did not do any crime at all, Your Honor.
COURT:
In effect ginapaamin mo siya nga nakahimo siya malain. Amo ina ang
sense sang self-incrimination. Di bala?
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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COURT:
You go to other points.
ATTY. GIGAWIN:
We have no more questions, Your Honor.
COURT:
Any re-direct?
ATTY. GEVERO:
None, Your Honor.
COURT:
Okay. Edjohn, your testimony is over. You may now step down from
the witness stand and thank you for your time.
ATTY. GEVERO:
May I ask for one more setting, Your Honor?
INTERPRETER:
May 24.
COURT:
Okay.
ORDER
SO ORDERED.
Criminal Case No. C-205-15
PP vs. Edjohn Guzman
TSN dated 08 March 2023
Witness: Mr. Edjohn Guzman
Testimony Completed
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CERTIFICATE
I hereby certify that this is the true and correct copy of my stenographic
notes to the best of my knowledge, ability, hearing and belief.