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Showcasing some of the most potent and far-reaching spiritual works of our
times, this major new series brings together – for the first time under the
banner of a single imprint – twelve classic dialogues between modern
spiritual master Daisaku Ikeda and a distinguished roll-call of discussants,
who are uniformly thinkers of global stature and reputation. Echoes and
Reflections ranges widely across the fields of religion, politics, economics,
science and the arts, and in each instance puts a profound and searching
new perspective on some of the most pressing issues of our age. Topics
covered include: the search for worldwide social justice; the challenges
posed by climate change and diminishing natural resources; the perils of
religious misdirection; the urgent need for inner growth and harmony; the
importance of learning and education; and, above all, the significance of the
human quest for meaning and value in life.
Titles in the series:
Copyright © 1995 Laura Sandroni, Antonio Vicente Austregésilo de Athayde, Roberto Athayde,
Cícero Sandroni, Daisaku Ikeda and Hiromasa Ikeda
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Preface
by Austregésilo de Athayde
by Daisaku Ikeda
Recollections of Youth
KEDA: I feel certain that all of our readers would be interested in hearing
about your youth and family life.
ATHAYDE: I was born on 25 September 1898; in the city of Caruaru, in the
state of Pernambuco, on the horn of Brazil, which projects into the Atlantic
Ocean. My family moved there for the healthful effects of the clean air. I
am now approaching ninety-five, and my existence has been a testimony to
life in this developing country called Brazil. I hope that my children, too,
will understand Brazil and contribute to her development, as the people of
my generation have.
KEDA: My mentor Josei Toda was born on 11 February 1900. If he were still
alive, he would be almost your age. I cannot help seeing the same kind of
images in your footsteps as in my mentor’s life. I have a profound feeling to
be able to spend his birthday with you here in Rio de Janeiro.
You were born about a decade after Brazil became a federal republic.
ATHAYDE: Yes. I weighed six kilograms at birth. The midwife carried this
startling information all over town, and people hurried to our house to look
at me. My grandfather, an officer in the army and nearly two metres tall
himself, is said to have picked me up by the leg and exclaimed about my
size. If I’d been able to think at the time, I would probably have felt it was a
great birthday.
When I was a year old, we moved to Fortaleza in the state of Ceará,
where I lived in a tightly-knit, late-nineteenth-century patriarchal family
until I left home to attend the Seminary of Prainha in Fortaleza.
KEDA: What is your most enduring recollection from that part of your life?
ATHAYDE: I remember my father very well. He filled various posts as
prosecutor and judge in our region. When he was thirty-one, he was
transferred to Fortaleza to assume the duties of a high-court justice. He was
also head librarian in our local public library. He was a man of an extremely
high cultural level and spoke seven or eight languages. He took a deep
interest in the education of his children. I remember learning about the
Russo-Japanese war from him.
KEDA: The Russo-Japanese War broke out in February 1904, when you were
five. Your father’s explaining events occurring on the other side of the
world reminds me of something I once heard from Mr. Frederic Warner,
who was then British ambassador to Japan. He said he treated his children
like individuals and explained complicated international affairs to them,
even though they still could not understand them entirely. Exposing
children to information in this way broadens their views of the world.
Childhood is not all happiness for anyone. I assume you, too, had your
share of unhappiness.
ATHAYDE: Losing a loved one is a fearsome experience for very small
children. My first grief was the loss of a brother who was only four. One
day, at twilight, he was praying in front of our family chapel – in those
days, Christian homes usually had a prayer room where candles were kept
lit. My brother began playing with the candles. And, in no time, his clothing
caught fire. He suffered dreadful burns on the lower half of his body and
died twenty-four hours later.
KEDA: That must have caused you immense sorrow. As you say, the loss of a
loved one is a fearsome experience. Indeed, Buddhism counts separation
from the beloved as one of the eight kinds of universal suffering. Occurring
at an early stage in life, such loss makes an indelible impression.
ATHAYDE: I remember my grief vividly. Calling on his last reserves of
strength, my father laid my brother in a gilded coffin, which he saw lowered
into the grave. Back home after the funeral, his strength abandoned him. He
collapsed under his profound grief. Until then, I had always thought he
could preserve his composure no matter what happened. But he shut
himself up in his room, practically howling with sorrow over his son’s
tragic death.
KEDA: I understand fully how a parent who has lost a child feels. But growing
up strong and active, in a way you made up for the loss of your brother. The
sorrow you felt then was sublimated in the power of your later life.
ATHAYDE: Unfortunately, however, I had another encounter with death when I
was six or seven. In those days, I had a playmate named Edith Fortuna, who
was somewhat older than I and who always had chocolates with her. I
remember the fragrance of those chocolates still today.
Suddenly, one day, with no explanation, my mother told me I could not
play with her any more. This plunged me into unforgettable despair.
As it turned out, Edith had contracted tuberculosis, which was considered
incurable in those days. She died, and the tenderness she had given me was
lost forever. The grief I experienced then taught me that death is
irredeemable unhappiness.
KEDA: Possibly because I was sickly, as a child I thought about life and death
all the time. I, too, contracted tuberculosis at an early age – before entering
primary school. I am not sure that was altogether a bad thing because
confronting the possibility of imminent death and overcoming the insecurity
associated with it deepens a person’s insight into the meaning of life itself.
While still a youth, I encountered Buddhist philosophy and its teaching,
‘originally inherent nature of birth and death’, that life and death are two
aspects essentially inherent in the universal force of Life itself.
Josei Toda compared life to waking and death to sleep at the end of a
busy day. Restful sleep assuages weariness so that, in the morning, the
sleeper awakes ready for new activity. Similarly, when life ends, the sleep
of death replenishes and restores the energy of life. My own views on birth
and death are founded on this teaching. No doubt your tragic experiences
with loss deepened and strengthened your views on the subject, too.
ATHAYDE: Though now very distant, Edith’s last day remains fresh in my
memory. She was in a critical condition. A priest and four others from the
church came to administer the last rites and the holy Eucharist. Driven by
an inexplicable impulse, I joined them and watched the priest as he gave her
ultimate consolation.
KEDA: Did this experience influence your decision to take holy orders?
ATHAYDE: Yes, it did. I told my mother of my strong determination to become
a priest. And this became the driving force that led me to spend eight years
as a dormitory student at the Seminary of Prainha in Fortaleza.
KEDA: How old were you when you entered the seminary?
ATHAYDE: Ten. To interpret the Bible, I had to study Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin,
Greek, French, English and Sanskrit. At the same time, I amassed an
extremely large amount of information on secular as well as religious
subjects. At the age of twelve, I was already delivering addresses at
seminary literary debates. I was interested in astronomy, geometry, physics
and chemistry as well. Later I completed two teacher-training courses and
taught at two high schools.
KEDA: I have heard that you were an outstanding student.
ATHAYDE: I was first in my class in all subjects. But, often, I took delight
more in being first than in learning for its own sake. After thinking about
this a long time, I advised my own children not to study solely for the sake
of being first in class. In a sense, such an attitude makes education barren
and impedes students’ emotional development.
KEDA: Your children were probably relieved to hear you say so. What were
your extracurricular interests?
ATHAYDE: Music. Not many people know that I am an amateur musician. I am
a qualified choral conductor and have spent many hours at the organ.
KEDA: What kind of music do you play mostly?
ATHAYDE: Fugues, the president of our seminary, enjoyed my playing. I once
visited a high school in the state of Ceará. After vespers, all the priests went
to bed, leaving me alone for a while. I went to the chapel and sat down at
the organ. Suddenly I was overcome with an impulse to play some Bach.
The room was dark except for the glow of the red votive lamps. In spite of
apprehensions about disturbing the silence of the night, I started playing.
And practically all the monks in the place came to the chapel to hear me.
This satisfied my innocent pride.
KEDA: I am an amateur musician too. But sometimes I play the piano for
friends. I have written a few pieces – mostly recollections of my mother, my
home town and my mentor.
ATHAYDE: Splendid.
Mandela University
KEDA: The desire to learn is one of the things that make us human. We are so
insatiably hungry to learn that education is possible anywhere. Nelson
Mandela even converted prison into a place of learning – the Mandela
University.
ATHAYDE: Even the violence and oppression inflicted on him could not
suppress his ability to lead or stifle his desire to generate new wisdom and
novel forms of spirituality by turning prison into a learning place.
KEDA: Mahatma Gandhi did much the same thing. The mere knowledge of
his presence in the same prison put all other prisoners there – even serious
offenders – on their best behaviour. Even while incarcerated, the undaunted
Gandhi continued to lead the non-violence movement and to carry on an
extensive, spiritual correspondence with such people as Rabindranath
Tagore.
ATHAYDE: No injustice or oppression can break the courage of people with the
lofty mission of creating a noble spiritual order for the new century.
KEDA: Shōin Yoshida provides a good example of such an indomitable spirit
among nineteenth-century political reformers. He, too, was imprisoned at
one time. While in jail, he gave instructions in various disciplines to his
fellow prisoners. Perhaps revolutionaries must be educators.
I find Mandela’s prison education policies especially interesting. He set
up a system whereby prisoners educated each other in their particular fields
of expertise.
ATHAYDE: Mandela University vividly demonstrates an outstanding man’s
ability to convert a place of detention into a school providing models for the
spirit.
KEDA: Yes, Mandela resisted authority. But, insofar as it helps individuals
manifest their best abilities and characteristics, education must be a struggle
against the dehumanisation of power and authority. At the time of its
formation, Soka Gakkai was called Soka Kyōiku Gakkai (The Value-
creating Educational Society). We members of Soka Gakkai today remain
devoted to education as a good that endures for centuries.
ATHAYDE: Yes, the mission of education is to innovate in ways that advance
the cause of good.
KEDA: I hope to offer Mandela support in connection with education in South
Africa. But he is not the only South African with whom I see eye-to-eye on
many educational issues. At a meeting in June 1992, former president
Frederik W. de Klerk and I found our ideas coinciding on the importance of
exchanges in the fields of learning and education.
ATHAYDE: The unexpected resurrection of South Africa portends something
new and wonderful. Since the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the
Soviet Union, our world has changed dramatically. The foundation is now
being laid for the equality and liberty that were the blazon of the French
Revolution.
The Enlightenment
KEDA: His reasons for doing this have been interpreted from various angles. I
prefer to describe his motivation in terms of human rights. The desire to
combat and triumph over the Four Sufferings of Birth, Aging, Illness and
Death are generally given as the reason for his leaving his father’s palace to
resolve these difficulties and find true liberation. I suspect that knowledge
of the agony of the ordinary people in a time of tumultuous social change
influenced his decision. He wanted to search for the fundamental truth of
the Four Sufferings as they appeared to ordinary people.
Attachment to worldly authority, power, position, wealth and success
hampers the search for profound truth. Shakyamuni abandoned palace,
diadem and luxury, and – devoid of all possessions – plumbed the depths of
his own inner universe. Shakyamuni selected the forest as the location for
the meditation that led to a philosophy that shed the combined light of
reason and intuition on the inner universe of life itself. Interestingly,
Rabindranath Tagore said that, whereas Greek civilisation was born of clay
bricks, Indian civilisation was born in the forest.
In essence, a single human life can encompass the whole universe. The
light of wisdom that Shakyamuni refined through discipline and training
illuminates the universe contained in life. He saw compassion and trust in
its profound depths. He also observed, however, that deluded desires arising
from those same depths spawn discriminations that oppress and constrain
others. He boldly confronted and conquered those desires and the egoism
associated with them, thus becoming one with the fundamental eternal, wise
and compassionate universal Law. Various Buddhist scriptures relate his
conflict and triumph.
ATHAYDE: Nothing in other religions approaches the nobility of the life and
teachings of Shakyamuni, the beggar prince, who became the guide of
multitudes. His teachings assumed absolute authority by triumphing over
the unsettled conditions of his time.
KEDA: Inherent in all human beings to an equal degree, the fundamental
Universal Law transcends ephemeral distinction of race, ethnic group and
class. In Buddhist terms, this law is referred to as the Buddha Nature.
Shakyamuni was enlightened to the equality and freedom of each individual
on this fundamental universal level and launched his teaching mission to
battle with the evil that strives to discriminate among and enslave people.
He continued his mission, in close association with the masses, until his
death at eighty.
ATHAYDE: All of the teachings he propounded during that struggle reveal
great understanding of the spirit of compassion and justice.
KEDA: He advocated pitting justice and compassion against the evil source of
discrimination, lust for power and violence.
ATHAYDE: In the twenty-first century, we must not mistake our course.
Difficulties are sure to arise. But we can triumph over them as long as we
preserve our sense of justice and our love for a supreme being.
KEDA: Like all historical conversions, Mahatma Gandhi’s battle against
violence in the name of satyāgraha was carried out in the spirit of justice
and love. Indeed, he equated non-violence with boundless love, to which he
ascribed the power to withstand all ordeals. In his eyes, the power of love
was the power of truth.
The source of the doctrine of non-violence, or ahimsā, can be traced to
Shakyamuni’s teachings. Ahimsā means avoiding the shedding of blood and
taking of life. All Buddhist laymen are expected to do their best to abide by
the Five Precepts, the first of which is to take no life.
ATHAYDE: Buddhism teaches an ideal humanism. With splendid clarity, it sets
a model which human beings should endeavor to realise.
KEDA: Shakyamuni believed in the infinite possibilities of the ordinary
people, whom he said, in the Lotus Sutra, can be made equal to himself.1
He devoted his life to saving ordinary people by enabling them to manifest
their inherent Buddha natures and reach the state equal to the one he
himself had attained. He sympathised with their hardships. The precept
against taking life is a practical expression of his desire to help them
overcome suffering.
Gandhi’s non-violence movement evolved from Shakyamuni’s
admonition against taking life. The support he derived from spiritual wealth
and breadth of the masses enabled Gandhi to claim invincibility for non-
violence. He described himself as an incorrigibly optimistic believer in the
individual’s limitless possibilities for practising nonviolence.
Committee Three
KEDA: Perhaps for that reason, the General Assembly immediately returned
the draft to Committee Three for reconsideration. I believe Charles Malik,
from Lebanon, was chairman of this committee, on which you also served.
ATHAYDE: Yes. During our early meetings, held in Geneva, differences in
political, social and cultural backgrounds, coupled with the variance in the
levels of development of the countries they represented, caused some
conflict among the delegates. But the hope we derived from our common
universal goal enabled us to overcome those differences. We all knew that
completing the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was indispensable
to the peace-keeping work of the United Nations.
KEDA: Never before in history had representatives of diverse cultures and
traditions assembled to work for the sake of all humanity. Its very universal
nature made your task both harder and more meaningful. You are an
invaluable witness to the whole process.
ATHAYDE: The work was hard. In about three months, we held eighty-five
meetings, no longer in Geneva but in the Palais de Chaillot in Paris. More
than a thousand speeches were delivered. Revisions were proposed for
nearly two hundred points in the document.
KEDA: I understand that the local press made acid criticisms of the
committee’s leisurely pace and lack of progress. But they were perhaps not
entirely fair. After all, many different viewpoints had to be expressed and
many conflicts resolved. In spite of this, a sense of their duty as world
citizens inspired the committee members with the enthusiasm that enabled
them to achieve brilliant, praiseworthy results.
ATHAYDE: Our success in reaching essential agreement was thanks to Mrs.
Roosevelt’s efforts.
KEDA: She must have been a very energetic person. Indeed she once said that
living means movement and that, since we either go forward or we regress,
human life is interesting as long as we grow. But other women, too, played
a lively part in your committee’s work.
ATHAYDE: There were more than fifty women among the representatives in
the General Assembly. Prime Minister Nehru’s daughter was one of them.
Three of the fifteen women members of Committee Three were talkative.
The others were more reticent. All of them attended every meeting
conscientiously and always arrived early. As soon as Chairman Malik lifted
his gavel to call the meeting to order, they donned headphones and gave full
attention to every word of deliberations that lasted for three hours in the
morning and continued for three more hours in the afternoon. Mrs.
Roosevelt attended every day and made spirited comments. Whenever the
debate bogged down and the mood became oppressive, the lady from
England and the lady from the Dominican Republic restored calm with a
few soothing words. In an unusual departure, the men were noisiest at the
Palais de Chaillot.
KEDA: I can imagine how it must have been.
Philosophical Foundation
ATHAYDE: With great pleasure, I remember how work on the Declaration
allowed me to meet Eve Curie, daughter of Madame Marie Curie, the
celebrated scientist and Nobel Prize laureate. While we were working in
Paris, I called at her house and had a chat with her in her study.
Encouraging a younger, more gallant me, she compared my enthusiasm for
the Declaration with her mother’s passionate convictions. She expressed her
determination to visit Brazil at some time in the future. She kept her
promise. We did indeed meet later in Brazil. And, after she had returned, I
was honoured to learn from her daughter that she continued to speak of me
often.
KEDA: In her preface to Madame Curie, Eve Curie said that the most precious
thing about her mother had been, not her brilliant achievements, but the
ability to maintain her innocence of soul throughout everything – success,
unhappiness and adversity. You, too, have that innocent humanism of the
soul.
ATHAYDE: To recall another personal incident that I remember fondly, in
December 1948, our work over, we were getting ready to go home. Just
before her own departure for the United States, Mrs. Roosevelt invited me
to have lunch with her at the Hotel de Crillon. To my delight, she spoke
very highly of Brazil.
KEDA: I can imagine how heartwarming you must have found that. Together
with the Declaration itself, your achievements and those of Mrs. Roosevelt
and all the other people who took part in its compilation are an eternally
laudable monument to human harmony. Mrs. Roosevelt was fully justified
in speaking highly of your country. Brazil and its people are praiseworthy in
numerous connections, as others also have observed. For example, the
Austrian writer Stefan Zweig once observed in his 1941 book, Brazil: Land
of the Future, ‘And so we are no longer willing to judge a country by its
industrial, financial, and military strength, but rather by its peaceful way of
thinking and its humane attitude. In this sense, which I believe to be the
most important, Brazil seems to me one of the most worthy of emulation,
and therefore one of the most lovable countries of our world.’1
ATHAYDE: Because it is truly multiracial, Brazil can be called a world cultural
centre. With your great vision, you also have played a part in the evolution
of Brazilian culture.
KEDA: Such high praise from a person as distinguished as yourself makes me
feel very humble. Harmony in diversity is what humanity requires for the
creation of a new global civilisation. Brazil has a great role to play in this
process.
ATHAYDE: Among the various problems we of Committee Three encountered
in our discussions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, I was
most concerned with the need to promote spiritual bonds among the peoples
of the world; that is to say, the promotion of spiritual globalism. Economic
and political ties are too fragile to hold people together long. The fate of
humanity depends on our being able to create loftier, more inclusive,
stronger bonds.
KEDA: What you so skillfully define as spiritual globalism is what we of Soka
Gakkai International consistently strive for. It is what we must develop for
the sake of the twenty-first century.
But be good enough to relate some more of the controversial aspects of
the discussions on the Declaration.
ATHAYDE: As I have said, I objected to the wording of the first article, with its
atheistic or naturalistic approach, which I felt was incompatible with the
beliefs and feelings of the majority of the peoples of the world. I therefore
wanted to reflect religious beliefs and avoid the cold, agnostic stand that
rejects God because his existence is beyond human knowledge. I was
convinced that doing this would relate much more deeply to the wishes and
hopes of all peoples.
KEDA: In other words, you wanted to define the philosophical foundation for
a document intended to establish a worldwide basis for the observation of
human rights.
ATHAYDE: My proposal surprised some committee members but won the
support of all the Latin American nations except Mexico, and Belgium and
the Netherlands among the European nations. Some of the other
representatives demonstrated no interest in it all. It was attacked from the
standpoint of Marxist-Leninist materialism and atheism. The Soviet
representative, a famous scholar named Alexei Pavlov, said, ‘The Brazilian
representative advances a religious viewpoint that is as remote from
actuality as a human trip to the moon.’ Of course, at a later time, Neil
Armstrong and his comrades were indeed to take first, hesitating steps on
the surface of the moon.
KEDA: In those days, with its atheistic creed, the Soviet Union cruelly
persecuted dissident religionists. It took courage for you to stand up to the
Soviet representative by insisting on the mention of God and the
introduction of a super-national, universal humanism.
Two Currents
KEDA: In the hope of substantiating inclusion of universality and religious
views in the Declaration, let us try to trace the evolution of the idea of
human rights throughout the history of human philosophy.
ATHAYDE: Committee Three went as far back in history as the Code of
Hammurabi. From that point, we worked our way to the present, always
searching for correct substantiation for the basis of the Declaration.
In getting ready for the big night and the third General Assembly, we
examined and discussed an immense range of such reference material as
Buddhist philosophy, the Koran, and the whole Western tradition, including
Thomas Aquinas and the Scholastics. The United States Declaration of
Independence and the French Declaration des Droits de l’Homme
confirmed the value of incorporating local spiritual values in such
documents. We of the Brazilian delegation wanted to do precisely this in
order to stimulate the development of individual peoples and to maintain
international cooperation.
KEDA: The philosophical basis of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
incorporates many currents of human thought. Pre-eminent is the
rationalistic thought of the Enlightenment as embodied in the thought of
such men as Locke, Montesquieu, and Rousseau. Isolating themselves from
Medieval theology, philosophers of the Enlightenment shifted their
attention from God to Man, thereby avoiding excess emphasis on the
absolute creator transcending human knowledge. During the Middle Ages,
obedience to God was transformed into blind obedience to the Church as
God’s representative on Earth. Such subservience bred ecclesiastical
corruption and authoritarianism. In more modern times, monarchical power
outstripped clerical authority, giving rise to concepts like the divine right of
kings, justification for which God was supposed to provide. Exercising their
divine rights, autocrats sacrificed the rights of the people for the sake of
expanding royal authority.
The American and French revolutions, however, dealt a devastating blow
to autocracy. And the spiritual and physical freedoms won because of those
revolutions became the core of the great human-rights struggle waged on
the basis of post-Enlightenment philosophy.
ATHAYDE: Essential to the modern period, the Enlightenment, can be said to
have started with the science of Bacon and Newton, and with the
philosophies of such outstanding Englishmen as Hobbes and Locke. The
achievements of these men were closely related to the brilliant rationalists
like Rousseau and Voltaire and by Encyclopedists like D’Alembert and
Diderot.
Ironically, the broad perspectives of the Enlightenment led to revolutions
that brought immense suffering. The human rights movement emerged as a
consequence of that suffering.
KEDA: The Enlightenment represents the rationalist current in Western
thought. A second current examined human rights by questioning the
meaning of the Christian Cosmic Creator. Representative of this trend were
Levi Carneiro of Brazil and Jacques Maritain of France.
ATHAYDE: Yes, history records many ethical and political attempts to define
human rights and obligations, beginning with the Ten Commandments of
Moses and including such other milestones as the Magna Carta, of 1215,
and the English Bill of Rights of 1689, drawn up by Parliament on the
occasion of the accession to the throne of William III and his consort Queen
Mary.
KEDA: The Magna Carta begins with thanks for God’s grace. The English Bill
of Rights is based on Christian doctrine. These associations with divinity
imply a belief that human rights themselves are universal. As we have seen,
however, the Enlightenment aimed to liberate humanity from its medieval
subservience to God and the Church.
In the eyes of some thinkers, the influence of Enlightenment thinking
was not always laudable. Indeed, there are those who trace the horrors of
Nazism and Fascism – both led by popularly elected men who later
assumed dictatorial powers – to the Enlightenment’s dissolution of
medieval ties with God. Since the end of the Second World War, serious
reflection on this possibility has inspired a movement dedicated to
overcoming selfish interest and to promoting universal rights.
ATHAYDE: Numerous historians have pointed out the crisis modern society is
in because the bonds with God have been severed. The work of Committee
Three in connection with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights gains
added significance because of this crisis.
KEDA: I do not entirely reject the Enlightenment attempt to establish a system
of human rights without a religious basis. On the other hand, I believe a
religious element must be incorporated if observance of human rights is to
be truly universal.
Confronting Ignorance
KEDA: As we have already said, concern with human rights can be traced
back as far as the Code of Hammurabi, the oldest organised legal code to
survive to the present time.
ATHAYDE: According to tradition, Hammurabi received the stone stela on
which the code is inscribed from the sun god Samas. Of course, ancient
statesmen and legislators in most civilisations customarily reinforce the
authority of their pronouncements by assigning divine origins to them.
Nonetheless, the Code of Hammurabi represents a very ancient
concentration of immense wisdom.
KEDA: In Hammurabi’s time, society was unsettled. Debts frequently
compelled free citizens to sell themselves into slavery. Conceivably, the
king enacted his legal code to protect citizen rights and thereby to promote
social stability. From the modern viewpoint, the code is not completely fair.
For the same crime, it imposes lighter punishments on people who occupy
high rungs on the social ladder. Still, like you, I find the king’s lofty ideals
laudable.
ATHAYDE: The Mosaic Law, or the Ten Commandments, though later in time
and briefer in form than the Code of Hammurabi, is similarly founded on
lofty ideals. As a symbolic model of rights and obligations, it has exerted an
enormous influence on Western philosophy.
KEDA: For Buddhist, the Five Precepts and the Ten Good Precepts, which all
believers are expected to observe, serve the kind of basic ethical role that
the Ten Commandments serve in the Judaeo-Christian tradition. There are,
of course, significant differences between the Buddhist and the Judaeo-
Christian approach. Obedience to God consistently comes first in the Ten
Commandments. In contrast, the Buddhist Five Precepts begin with a
commandment against taking life, thus giving pre-eminence to non-violence
(ahimsā). All the remaining precepts, too, stress respect for the dignity of
life: Condemning theft – the taking of what is not given – protects property,
which supports life. Debauched relations between the sexes amount to
blasphemy against life; therefore, adultery is prohibited. Lying and drinking
are forbidden because they lead to violence and the taking of life.
The Ten Good Precepts are a more detailed code providing guidance in
respect for life.
Both codes arose from profound ethical consideration of the innermost
meanings of life and teach how to counter the basic delusions of greed,
anger and false views.
As you point out, the Ten Commandments played an important early role
in formulating Western ideas about human rights. Similarly, the Five
Precepts and the Ten Good Precepts were the origins of the same kind of
philosophy within Buddhism.
Nichiren agreed that respect for the dignity of life must come first since
life is incomparably more precious than all the treasures of the universe:
‘Life is the foremost of all treasures . . . Even the treasures that fill the
major world system are no substitute for life.’2 Throughout his life, which
was a struggle between a Buddha eager to guide humanity to happiness and
the forces of evil that lead to suffering, Nichiren battled unyieldingly with
attempts by secular and religious authorities to trample on human rights.
Life is supremely important. Buddhism personifies the forces that take
life as devils, or māra. When those forces kill, they simultaneously snuff
out the plentiful possibilities with which life is endowed. In this sense,
māra violates innate human liberties and rights. Whereas divinely imposed
Law is the source of Western thought on the subject, Buddhist ethics
defines as good those things that cultivate life’s limitless possibilities and as
evil those things that hinder them. The two approaches define Western and
Buddhist attitudes toward human rights.
ATHAYDE: Since Hammurabi’s time, people have put their trust in laws. By
eating the forbidden fruit, Eve transgressed God’s Law. Ironically, however,
her infraction stimulated human development. Expelled from paradise and
forced to make their way on their own, human beings developed self-
awareness.
KEDA: You interpret the expulsion from the Garden of Eden as the starting
point of the process whereby human beings were given a chance – therefore
the right – to live up to their best potential. Human rights, then, begin with
the expulsion?
ATHAYDE: Yes, at least in the Judaeo-Christian cultural sphere. Buddhism has
its own version of the evolution of human rights.
KEDA: That is true. As I have already pointed out, Buddhist thought has its
own philosophical foundation for human rights. The four sufferings – birth,
aging, sickness and death – symbolise the sufferings of the human
condition. The task of confronting them constitutes the origin of the
Buddhist concept of human rights. In contrast to Christian original sin, in
Buddhist thought, ignorance – mumyo in Japanese – negates the dignity
inherent in life and therefore is the source of all suffering. In different
terms, ignorance may be defined as tireless obsession with the minor self.
Shakyamuni saw ignorance as the source of desire and taught that
overcoming it is the only way to happiness. His explanation of the
operations of ignorance employs colourful expressions drawn from the
richly vital Indian natural environment. For instance, Chapter XXIV of the
Dhammapada contains the following passage, in which what I have called
obsession with the minor self is expressed as thirst:
334. The thirst of a thoughtless man grows like a creeper; he runs from life
to life, like a monkey seeking fruit in the forest.
335. Whomsoever this fierce thirst overcomes, full of poison, in this world,
his sufferings increase like the abounding Birana grass.
336. He who overcomes this fierce thirst, difficult to be conquered in this
world, sufferings fall off from him, like water-drops from a lotus leaf . . .
.
337. This salutary word I tell you, Do ye, as many as are here assembled,
dig up the root of thirst, as he who wants the sweet-scented Usira root
must dig up the Birana grass, that Mara [the tempter] may not crush you
again and again, as the stream crushes the reeds.
338. As a tree, even though it has been cut down, is firm so long as its root
is safe, and grows again, thus, unless the feeders of thirst are destroyed,
this pain [of life] will return again and again.3
Passionate Self-sacrifice
ATHAYDE: From time to time, debate grew very heated. But passion rarely
carried over into off-duty hours. One communist often condemned the evils
of capitalism, while shaking his mane of hair and pounding his desk with
his fist. Capitalists always responded with equal acerbity. But, at end of the
day, the same men who, only a few minutes earlier had seemed ready to rip
each other’s throats out, were usually to be found seated in the bar genially
laughing and chatting together.
KEDA: People are the same all over. That is why we can accomplish more
when we abandon ideological poses and meet, face to face, on the footing
of shared humanity.
ATHAYDE: That is true. Throughout the three months of our debates, time and
time again, conflicts caused what might have become irreconcilable
imbroglios. But, always, enthusiasm for our shared humanity and for the
importance of our task enabled us to pull back from the brink and resolve
our differences.
KEDA: I have heard that the speech you made to the General Assembly when
the draft was submitted for final discussion was brilliant.
ATHAYDE: Immediately before the vote, I said, ‘This Declaration does not
represent the specific viewpoint of any one nation or group of nations. It is
not an expression of any specific political creed or philosophical system. It
is the result of joint intellectual and moral work on the part of a large
number of countries . . . Here in the General Assembly, it should be passed
as proof of the common sense of all peoples.’
After my speech, Robert Schuman, French minister of foreign affairs at
the time, rose from his seat to embrace all of us Brazilian representatives.
Observing my surprise at his gesture, he said, ‘You are the most eloquent
person I have ever heard in my life.’
KEDA: I can envision the enthusiasm that must have reigned. Your eloquence,
convincing evidence of how cogent a weapon the word can be, impressed
the whole audience because it arose from your exalted spirit and your
dedication to the future of humanity.
ATHAYDE: The occasion was very exciting. I was still under the influence of
the emotions it stirred up when, that evening, I received a letter from Mrs.
Roosevelt, saying that democracy cannot survive without the pure and lofty
thought of passionate self-sacrificing people, and the words of the
representative from Brazil recalled to her mind Abraham Lincoln’s
Gettysburg Address.
To my way of thinking, you epitomise what Mrs. Roosevelt meant by
passionate, self-sacrificing people. Soka Gakkai International is a supreme
example of your philosophy of affording maximum support to the values of
the ordinary people.
KEDA: It is my hope that, on the basis of Buddhist teachings, Soka Gakkai
International can become a powerful force for global peace and prosperity.
That was what I had in mind when, in an address I gave on the occasion of
the fifteenth SGI Day (26 January, 1990), I reaffirmed the three
fundamental ideals of our organisation:
One. As good citizens, the members of Soka Gakkai International resolve
to contribute to the prosperity of their respective societies and countries,
while respecting individual cultures, customs and laws.
Two. The members of Soka Gakkai International resolve to aim for the
realisation of eternal peace and the prosperity of humanistic culture and
education, based on the Buddhism of Nichiren Daishonin, which clearly
defines the dignity of human life.
Three. The Members of Soka Gakkai International resolve to contribute
to the happiness of humankind and the prosperity of the world, while
strongly eschewing war and violence of any kind; to support the spirit of the
Charter of the United Nations; and to take positive steps toward cooperating
with its endeavors to keep world peace, with the abolition of nuclear
weapons and the realisation of a warless world as their supreme purpose.
Integrated Rights
KEDA: On that crucial day in the General Assembly, the voting turned out
eighty-four in favour and none opposed with eight abstentions from the
Soviet Union and East bloc nations. This means that the declaration was
passed without any actual opposition votes.
ATHAYDE: The Union of South Africa, as the country was called then, joined
the Soviet Union and other East bloc nations in abstaining. Afterwards, the
chairman of the General Assembly called the adoption of so important a
declaration without direct opposition an epoch-making achievement. The
Declaration resolved the conflict between materialists and idealists by
integrating classical Western political and civic rights with formerly
inconceivable economic and cultural rights.
KEDA: In other words, it integrated first and second-generation human rights.
ATHAYDE: Yes. The American and French revolutions had already won
political and civil rights. The liberty, equality, and fraternity – or
philanthropy – embodied in such historical documents as the Virginia Bill
of Rights, the Constitution of the United States and the French Declaration
des Droits de l’Homme formed the political foundation of modern
democracy.
KEDA: The first generation of human rights – mostly related to liberty and
equality – were formulated and gained wide recognition in the eighteenth
and early nineteenth century. But they were often violated because they
failed to ensure social and economic security. For instance, inhuman
working conditions for the very poor robbed life of most of its dignity. But
awareness gradually lead to activism that ultimately secured a range of
economic, social and cultural rights, including the right to labour. These
rights were found in places in the German Weimar Constitution of 1919 and
in constitutions written for nations in the Americas in the nineteenth and
early twentieth centuries. Integration of social – or second-generation –
rights with what you have called classical rights and liberties in the
Universal Declaration indicates considerable advance in human-rights
philosophies of the nations of the free world.
ATHAYDE: American and British democracy long held that the passive
liberties are irreplaceable. The vigorous and vital liberal traditions in these
countries precluded rejection of active rights like those pertaining to labour,
individual property, justice, health, culture and welfare.
KEDA: Your distinction between active and passive rights deserves comment.
Passive rights involve liberation from oppression; they are freedoms ‘from
something’. Active rights relate to active social, political and economic
participation and are therefore freedoms ‘to do something’.
Conflict and harmony are inherent in the two elements of this active-
passive dichotomy. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights was
controversial because, by ensuring both kinds of rights, it embodies both
harmony and conflict. The Western nations in the modern period have
looked on the state as a necessary evil and have jealously guarded liberties
from its interference. More concerned with social rights, the Soviet-bloc
nations have encouraged interference by the state in all aspects of life –
social and economic.
In a sense, during this century, two global conflicts have arisen because
nation states have given precedence to considerations other than the basic
rights of their citizens. Reflections on the horrors of those wars influenced
the formulation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which
therefore naturally stresses the need to protect the individual from the state.
This may in part account for the Soviet bloc’s refusal to vote in favour.
Global Influence
ATHAYDE: When the work of the Third Committee was concluded, the
representatives parted with mutual congratulations for successful and
diligent effort. I exchanged some words with both Professor René Cassin
and Mrs. Roosevelt about our optimism at beginning a new age of respect
for fundamental rights and awareness of the long, rough road ahead.
KEDA: Yes, the road is long, and it never really ends. The attainment of each
goal is the starting point for efforts targeted toward the next. This never-
ending process is illustrated by the way the Declaration has influenced
formulations of human-rights-protection structures and their inclusion in
new constitutions and bills of rights throughout Europe and Africa.
For example, the preamble of the European Convention on Human
Rights adopted in November 1950, mentions the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,
adopted by the United Nations in 1966, emphasises its first and second-
generation rights. Accords and structures of these kinds have helped orient
rights-protection efforts in Africa and the Americas. For instance, the
American Convention on Human Rights, adopted in San José, California, in
November 1969, declares the ideal of free men enjoying freedom from fear
and want, in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
The Charter of the Organisation of African Unity, adopted in Addis Ababa,
Ethiopia, in May 1963, declares as one of its goals the promotion of
international cooperation, with full respect to the United Nations Charter
and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Moreover, the Declaration
has influenced the drafting of several new constitutions, like those of
Guinea (1958) and Madagascar (1959).
ATHAYDE: Everyone today is enthusiastic about protecting basic human rights.
The Universal Declaration has succeeded because its content is broad
enough to make further additions and deletions unnecessary. There is no
room in it for change of any kind.
Human Rights in the Light of the Three Realms of Existence and the
Theory of Eshōfuni
KEDA: Over the course of historical development, support for basic human
rights has broadened and deepened. The broader, second-generation rights
constitute the foundation of the first-generation rights. And both other
generations rest on the still broader third generation. This widening of
recognition entails respect not only for the individual human being, but also
for that individual’s cultural, social and natural environments. The Buddhist
teaching of the three realms of existence explains relations between the
individual and his social and natural environments, thus providing a
philosophical basis for deepening and broadening appreciation for human
rights.
The three realms are the realm of the five components (go-on seken in
Japanese), the realm of living beings (shujō-seken) and the realm of the
environment (kokudo-seken). The five components are the five elements
composing the human being; that is, shiki, physical forms perceptible to the
eye; ju, perceptual, emotional and volitional psychological aspects; sō,
conceptualisation; gyō, the will to act and shiki, consciousness. The realm
of the five components manifests the diverse differences apparent in the
physical and psychological aspects of human life. The individual
contemplates this realm in relation to himself, not to emphasise differences,
but to detect the essential Buddha nature transcending the diversity of
phenomenal reality. Because all life is endowed with the dignity arising
from the Buddha nature, all manifestations of life are equally to be
treasured and respected. The doctrine shares much in common with the
essence of Articles One and Two of the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights.
ATHAYDE: Buddhism is the very philosophy to stimulate worldwide
observation of human rights in the coming century because it teaches how
to make equality, liberty and affection major elements in daily life. No other
teaching has ever surpassed its doctrines of faith and love.
KEDA: For very many people, religion constitutes the center of life. Indeed,
because the religious sense is an integral part of human nature, rejecting the
right to its manifestation amounts to a rejection of humanity itself.
Recognising freedom of faith and its unrestricted exercise helps us cultivate
attitudes conducive to full self-expression in activities essential to such
tasks as preserving peace and protecting the natural environment.
In the past, some socialist countries, while pretending to guarantee
freedom of faith, adhered to the philosophy that branded religion an opiate.
In spite of official disapproval, however, the religious attitude survived in
those countries to be liberated by then President Gorbachev’s perestroika
programme. And, on 1 October, 1990, still under the Gorbachev regime, a
law concerning freedom of conscience and religious organisations went into
effect.
ATHAYDE: My highly cultivated father fostered a profound interest in religious
freedom in all our family. Perhaps influenced by his teachings, during work
on the draft of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, I did all I could
to convince my fellow committee members that the freedom of religion is,
as you say, the most fundamental of all human rights.
KEDA: I believe you had something very convincing to say during the
discussion of Article 18 [sixteenth in the draft version]. The conclusion of
that article says, ‘Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience
and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private,
to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practise, worship and
observance.’
The minutes of your meetings show that Mr. Abadi, the representative
from Iraq, elaborated this text into three elements: (One) freedom of
expression expanded to embrace religious and philosophical convictions
and scientific opinions; (Two) freedom of religion, which entails relations
between human beings and ‘God’; and (Three) freedom of worship, which
deals with relations between the individual and society.
ATHAYDE: From my viewpoint, the article as set forth in the draft was in need
of no correction. Its philosophical quintessence was to be found in its stated
principles and detailed provisions. But not everyone agreed. Dr. Pavlov, the
Soviet representative, proposed including in the list only freedom of
thought and eliminating freedom of conscience and freedom of religion.
ATHAYDE: Yes, for example Mr. Peng Chun Chang of China, said, ‘In the
West, since the eighteenth century, freedom of thought has been considered
one of the indispensable human liberties. This freedom, of course, includes
freedom of religion and freedom of conscience. The Soviet delegate has
proposed that we refrain from clearly expressing these freedoms in this
declaration, which is being compiled for the majority of the population of
the world. I find his proposal incorrect.’
Prior to Mr. Chang’s remarks, the Saudi Arabia representative had said
that, during the Western colonisation of Asia during the nineteenth century,
Christian missionaries had exceeded their proper role by acting as advance
forces with political and economic aims. Mr. Chang agreed but refused to
recognise these objections as sufficient grounds for limiting freedom of
thought.
KEDA: Perhaps Mr. Chang was attempting to follow your advice by assuming
a viewpoint transcending strictly Eastern and Western opinions.
ATHAYDE: Perhaps he was. Nor was he the only delegate to disagree with Dr.
Pavlov. Other delegates, too, were in favour of a broad interpretation of
freedom of thought. Mr. Plaza of Venezuela objected that, while ostensibly
championing it, the Soviet delegate was ready to allow political authorities
to apply legal restrictions to freedom of conscience. Mr. Anze Matienzo of
Bolivia underscored the importance of Article 18 to human spirituality in
connection with credos and mutual tolerance.
KEDA: The delegate from Venezuela was hinting at the fearsome danger
always latent in legal restrictions on freedom of thought.
Regimes that impose legal restrictions on thought and action cripple
religions. Brave and faithful people oppose such oppression, as the
experiences of the first two presidents of Soka Gakkai prove. Obviously,
however, not all governments are oppressive. Some brilliant examples of
cultural and spiritual flourishing under wise and tolerant rulers are to be
found in human history. One of the most outstanding is that of King
Ashoka, whose regime was founded on the Buddhist Law, which he
understood well and applied wisely and tolerantly. As is shown in the edicts
he had carved on stone pillars throughout India, instead of authoritatively
oppressing them, he actively protected other religions. He encouraged open
and free dialogue among religious thinkers. When granted freedom of
expression, excellent religions always demonstrate their supremacy over
inferior teachings.
Nichiren, too, favoured open discussions among representatives of
different schools of thought. In his Risshō Ankoku-ron (On Establishing the
Correct Teaching for the Peace of the Land), he urged political authorities
to permit public debates with priests of other sects, like the powerful
Ninshō (Ryōkan; 1217-1303). He knew that, given a chance to hear all
arguments clearly stated, the people could choose the righteous faith for
themselves. Although his collected works contain numerous criticisms of
other sects, Nichiren always understood his opponents’ views and never
merely refuted them out of hand.
As long as people refuse to be confined within narrow sectarian views
and engage in dialogues with the true happiness of all humanity in mind,
correct conclusions are certain to be forthcoming. The ordinary people are
too wise to be fooled for long. They will spy out authoritarian oppression
and abandon teachings whose inferiority is revealed to them. Nonetheless,
we must always be on guard against mischievous official interference in
spiritual matters and must jealously maintain separation of state and
religion.
ATHAYDE: The third General Assembly of the United Nations insisted on
governmental neutrality in religious affairs.
KEDA: Now the French adopt a more flexible stance. If they wish, parents can
send their children to boarding schools where priests are assigned to the
dormitories.
While not recognising a state religion, Germany protects religious
organisations, some of which actually receive tax money. In medieval
German society, people paid taxes to their local churches. Today, in what
amounts to a relic of that system, the state collects such taxes and
distributes them to churches.
ATHAYDE: By nature, Brazilians are tolerant, and our nation is noted for a
broad-minded approach to religion. Historically, ours has been an open
society providing maximum protection for freedom of faith. Some
Brazilians, however, have abused that tolerance by screening criminal
activities behind a front of religion. Such people deserve punishment.
KEDA: Education is cultivation. The etymology of the very word expands the
metaphor of sowing knowledge in the field of the mind since cultivation
derives from the Latin infinitive cultivare, which in turn is related to cultus,
which means tilling.
Buddhist scriptures consistently proclaim the importance of planting in
the mind seeds of supreme value and indestructible happiness. For instance,
Nichiren’s ‘The Selection of the Time’ says, ‘How fortunate, how joyous, to
think that with this unworthy body I have received in my heart the seeds of
Buddhahood!’2
We must first be enlightened to the Buddha seed planted in ourselves and
thus to our own limitless potentialities. With this awareness, we are ready to
be educated to work for the good of humanity. The Universal Declaration
makes education a basic human right deserving jealous protection. In this
way, it is the pioneer in the whole process of human development.
ATHAYDE: The Declaration will manifest its true value when all human beings
are ready to serve as its champions.
KEDA: I am certain that some of those new perspectives can be found in the
philosophy of Tsunesaburo Makiguchi. In commenting on Makiguchi’s
original approach to education, Dr. Dayle M. Bethel said that he knew the
work of many educators whose achievements are likely to survive in
history. But the more he studied Makiguchi, the more he was impressed
with his determination to keep humanity at the heart of education and his
emphasis on practical action. This was the ideal education Dr. Bethel had
been looking for.
Makiguchi completed his Education for Creative Living while working
as a primary-school principal. Profoundly concerned about his pupils’
happiness, he always tried to see things from their standpoint and argued
that education isolated from daily life is unworthy of the name. The first
principle of his system is to cultivate children’s sensitivities and intuitive
powers and develop in them the ability to create value. He strove to achieve
this by refining innate creative wisdom. He wrote, ‘The aim of education is
not to transfer knowledge; it is to guide the learning process, to put the
responsibility for study into the students’ own hands. It is not the piecemeal
merchandising of information but the provision of keys that will allow
people to unlock the vault of knowledge on their own. It does not consist in
pilfering the intellectual property amassed by others through no additional
efforts of one’s own; it would rather place people on their own path of
discovery and invention.’
ATHAYDE: I agree of course; but, unfortunately, too many teachers fail to
inspire their students to experience intellectual discovery and invention.
KEDA: You go straight to the heart of the matter. In his short story, ‘Conto de
Escola’, the great Brazilian writer Joaquim Maria Machado de Assis
describes student apathy in the classroom. Pilar, the quick-witted, clever
hero of the story, is an outstanding student with a flair for creative writing.
But, in his heart, he would rather be playing in the fields and hills than
studying in class.
One day, the teacher assigns a task in original composition. Pilar quickly
polishes it off. Engrossed in the newspaper, the teacher fails to observe how
his son Raimundo, a backward pupil in the same class, offers Pilar a coin to
help him with his task. Another student, however, observes the transaction
and informs on them. The teacher punishes both culprits by caning their
hands until they are red and swollen. In this way, it was in the classroom
where Pilar first got to know about cheaters and squealers.
Teachers who neglect their duties – by, for instance, reading the
newspaper in class – do not stimulate their students’ minds and cannot hope
to keep their attention. Connecting study with daily life is perhaps the best
way to achieve both aims. To his great credit, with his value-creating
system, Makiguchi removed learning from the ivory tower and assimilated
it into the needs and deeds of everyday life. He constantly sought ways to
relate the things children learned at home and the things they were taught in
school. His concept of the kyōdo-ka, or hometown course, enabled children
to apply classroom knowledge to practical situations and to order jumbled,
fragmented items of knowledge in a way that clarified the inter-relations
among them.
It must not be thought, however, that Makiguchi’s hometown approach
was parochial in any way. His aim was to expand the natural affection
people feel for their home into devotion to the welfare of the whole planet.
In his first book Jinsei Chirigaku (A Geography of Human Life), he called
on children to realise their membership of their nation and of the worldwide
family of humanity. He hoped to educate the kind of true citizens of the
world who are indispensable to democracy.
KEDA: Jefferson’s achievements were great. John Locke set forth the rights to
life, liberty and property. Thomas Jefferson added depth and universality to
the Declaration of Independence by altering these to rights to life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness.
Happiness, the pursuit of which is a universal human right, is also the
goal of education. Tsunesaburo Makiguchi believed that, tersely put, the
goal of human life is happiness. By this he meant not mere self-gratification
that ignores the well-being of others, but happiness that, though self-
interested, is founded on the realisation that life is not happy unless the
happiness is shared with others.
ATHAYDE: That is true happiness. Education creates a foundation for
overcoming life’s difficulties and for attaining the true happiness Mr.
Makiguchi had in mind. At the same time, it must teach us to live in
harmony with society and strive for the prosperity of society at large.
KEDA: Makiguchi insisted that the goals of education and the goals of life
must be consistent with each other. A system of education that cultivates
people capable of generating great value verifiably demonstrates maximum
respect for the right to life.
ATHAYDE: The quality and scale of education provided free of charge and
indiscriminately to all levels of society determine the quality of a
democracy. John Adams, another of the American Founding Fathers,
insisted that guaranteeing education to all social classes, rich and poor alike,
is an indispensable condition to proper government and the preservation of
union. Historians generally agree in according praise to the American
government for providing high-quality education during the remarkably
brilliant period distinguished by men like Jefferson and Adams.
KEDA: Truly, the stature of a nation depends largely on the scope, depth and
fairness of its educational policies. Thomas Jefferson achieved astounding
things, including, of course, his concise expression of the American spirit in
the text of the Declaration of Independence. But I think his educational
work goes a long way to account for his greatness.
Brazilian Education
ATHAYDE: Today Brazil is a land of diverse cultural values.
KEDA: Yes. Brazil leads most of the world in harmonious relations among
races and ethnic groups. As Machado succinctly put it, racial intermixing is
Brazil’s greatest contribution to humanism and mixed blood Brazil’s
greatest asset.
ATHAYDE: The educational system that ultimately resulted in that diversity
started with the efforts and initiative of Jesuit priests in São Paulo, notably
those of Father José de Anchieta.
KEDA: The energetic work of six members of the Society of Jesus in the
middle of the sixteenth century is well known. Many European colonists
were out only to subdue and loot Brazil and its native peoples. In the words
of Stefan Zweig, ‘Instead of civilising the country, it is first of all the
colonists themselves who run wild.’4 Inspired by their religious creed,
however, the Jesuits built schools for natives and children of mixed blood,
thus helping lay the foundations for the later evolution of a single, united
Brazil.
KEDA: I agree: materialism is not the answer. That is why I should like to say
some words about the Buddhist approach to teaching. Education must lead
forth the best in a student’s potentialities. Tsunesaburo Makiguchi identified
these best potentials as the incipient ability to generate the values of profit,
good and beauty. He found the philosophical key to its evocation in the
Lotus Sutra teaching about the Buddha’s reason for appearing in this world.
As is explained in the second chapter of the Lotus Sutra, entitled
‘Expedient Means,’ one great reason (Ichidaiji Innen in Japanese) why the
Buddha appeared in this world was to evoke and develop the dignity
equally inherent in each human being. In another place in the same chapter,
this purpose is analysed into four elements: (One) to open the door to the
Buddha wisdom inherent in each sentient being; (Two) to reveal that
wisdom; (Three) to enlighten people to it; and (Four) to cause them to enter
the Buddha path in actual life. The compassionate Buddha wisdom is
equivalent to the Buddha nature, another word for precious life.
By bringing them into contact with his own wisdom and compassion, the
Buddha shows sentient beings that they manifest traits identical with his
own. Nichiren says, ‘When teacher and disciples have fully responded to
one another and the disciples have received the teaching, so that they gain
the awakening referred to where the sutra says, “I took a vow/ hoping to
make all persons/ equal to me, without any distinction between us” [chapter
two], this is what the sutra calls “causing living beings to awaken to the
Buddha wisdom.”’5 This means that living beings awaken to wisdom equal
to the Buddha’s, when mentor and disciples agree in sympathetic response.
Finally, the Buddha shows living beings how to use inherent wisdom and
compassion to pursue in daily life the way leading to perfection.
The Lotus Sutra posits the dignity of all life; its teachings are designed to
help human beings attain a happiness transcending life and death by
manifesting their dignity and abilities freely and to the maximum extent.
The same thing can be said of the goals of education. The Universal
Declaration of Human Rights, too, is a statement of the rights without
which such self-manifestation and consequent happiness are difficult to
attain.
ATHAYDE: Guaranteeing respect for rights consonant with the Buddhist
teachings you so clearly expound requires liberty and the absence of all
discrimination.
KEDA: An acute observation. Because all are equally endowed with inherent
dignity in the form of the Buddha life, all individuals are equally capable of
attaining Buddhahood. The equality between Buddha and sentient beings
set forth in the chapter ‘Expedient Means’ leaves no room for
discrimination. To further substantiate the dignity of human life, the third
chapter of the sutra, ‘Simile and Parable’, clearly refers to sentient beings as
the Buddha’s children.
Article One of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says that all
people are innately free and equal in terms of dignity and rights, that all are
endowed with reason and conscience and should act in the spirit of
brotherhood. Since the end of the Cold War, ultranationalism and racism
have trampled on human dignity in some parts of the world.
Halting this cruel trend entails the stubborn protection of the dignity and
rights of all peoples. Education is the way to reveal the nature of the
problem and point the way to its resolution.
CHAPTER 9
ATHAYDE: During his visit to Brazil in 1992, Mr. Gorbachev called at the
Brazilian Academy of Letters, where he was awarded the Order of Supreme
Honour in recognition of his achievements. I presided over the ceremony
and made a speech in which I said, ‘You have fought with peerless bravery
to promote the peace that all people of good-will long for . . . More than
fulfilling the duties of a head of state, you have restored hope to liberty-
seeking, ordinary people of our time.’
He replied, ‘Everything I have done has been, not for my own glory, but
for the sake of our children and grandchildren . . . I am grateful for
President Athayde’s splendid words. He is the conscience of Brazil. I am
more aware of my own responsibility now than ever before. Moreover, I
feel that I enjoy greater understanding and support than I have ever done in
the past.’
KEDA: Profound words. What is your evaluation of the reform carried out by
Mr. Gorbachev?
ATHAYDE: A materialisation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
his perestroika pre-supposed internationalisation as a fundamental. It
attempted to promote solidarity advantageous to all nations. The nation-
state boundaries of the past are now fading away, making it necessary for us
to devise a new international structure entailing global spiritual and material
cooperation. We must replace outmoded concepts of sovereignty with
methods conducive to greater liberty, security and love. By opening the way
for the abolition of nuclear arms, Mr. Gorbachev’s new diplomacy became
the harbinger of the dawn of a new century.
KEDA: By the time of the summit held at his initiative in November 1985,
relations between the Soviet Union and the United States had reached an
impasse. But the meeting changed everything. I was especially gratified,
since it represented the kind of step I had long urged the leaders of both
nations to take.
Two years later, the United States and the Soviet Union eliminated an
entire class of nuclear-weapons delivery systems by signing the historic
Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty. Thereafter, Mr.
Gorbachev’s persistent hard work led to the end of the Cold War that had
divided East and West for more than forty years.
ATHAYDE: His policies of glasnost and perestroika helped create a world in
which tragedies like those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are unlikely to recur.
We have learned how to combat the threats of evil with the power of
dialogue, concord, good-will, mutual understanding and solidarity. The
possibilities thus opened to us to relieve our anxieties about the future. In
my view, even more impressive than Mr. Gorbachev’s achievements is the
way you have employed the convincing powers of dialogue to alleviate the
insecurity inspired by the threat of armed conflict. You have shown us that,
far from stagnating, human life moves forward towards new discoveries in
the light of hope for peace, brotherhood and mutual understanding.
KEDA: The Gorbachev approach is similar to mine in this respect. When we
met at the Kremlin, in 1990, he proposed creating a world free of nuclear
weapons and praised the power of dialogue over force. He countered
criticism of his supposed Utopianism by pointing to the actual and
imminent results of his work. Mr. Gorbachev is proof that nuclear weapons
can be eliminated and man’s age-old dream of peace can come true. Peace
is the foundation of humanity. Once war, nuclear war in particular, breaks
out, no one’s human dignity is safe.
KEDA: We have already seen how concern for human rights has passed
through two stages – or generations – to reach a third in which interest
concentrates on preservation of the natural and social environments. The
right to live in peace, a third-generation right, subsumes all the other
constitutionally recognised ones.
In September 1957, my mentor Josei Toda presented a declaration for the
abolishment of nuclear weapons. Because he believed that all peoples on
earth have the right to live in peace, Josei Toda issued a scathing
denunciation of nuclear weapons as absolute evil and accused anyone who
would use them – no matter how high-sounding the cause they pretended to
serve – as guilty of crimes against humanity. All citizens of the world want
to live in happiness – this is an eternal wish of humankind.
ATHAYDE: As Soka Gakkai consistently and vigorously asserts, reason, not
violence, is the only way to happiness. We must oppose false values and set
lofty goals for the twenty-first century. The Universal Declaration of
Human Rights is a platform from which to begin this work.
Human Development
KEDA: The people of some poverty-stricken, developing nations, lack the
minimal food, clothing and shelter to which their very humanity entitles
them. Obviously, to provide the basics, nations must develop economically.
But such development alone is insufficient. As we gradually come to
understand, human beings require more than bare economic necessities.
Social and cultural factors, too, contribute to the creation of a way of life
worthy of our humanity. Creating the right social and cultural environment
requires full awareness of human dignity plus sound philosophical views
and an educational system encouraging people to believe in and realise their
best potentials.
ATHAYDE: Human happiness does to an extent depend on the social and
cultural milieu. The constituents of the right kind of environment may be
modest. In Anna Karenina, Tolstoy says that all happy families are alike. A
certain magazine has described this state of happiness in the following way:
life ruled by tranquillity and calm where children are born in the midst of
love and harmony and where, from the days of their births, they are
surrounded by beauty and goodness.
KEDA: In the happy family that Tolstoy implies, the happiness of the
individual contributes to the happiness of the whole group. Johan Galtung,
the originator of peace research, insists that development of any kind must
contribute to the advantage – that is, to the happiness – not only of a given
local population, but also to the whole family of humanity. He considers
national growth, or the production and distribution of material goods, only a
means toward the end of development for all of humanity. The means must
not be confused with the end. Human rights have to be considered our right
to the cultivation of the whole person for us to live happily.
ATHAYDE: The most important task of the twenty-first century will be to
create a world in which the principles of that declaration are respected. As
the frequent reports of violations issued by Amnesty International clearly
show, worldwide guarantee of human rights remains a dream that we hope
will come true in the next century. The Universal Declaration is a peak
achievement, but it is not final. The people of the twenty-first century must
see to its completion and just observance.
A Model Bodhisattva
KEDA: Manifesting the inner Buddha nature – universal dignity – opens the
path leading to happiness resulting from self-realisation, the epitome of all
the third-generation rights. As he progresses along this path, the bodhisattva
combines the interests of the self and of others. To the scorn and
maltreatment he met on all sides, the bodhisattva Never Disparaging
returned only non-violence and compassion. His attitude convinced even
his revilers to join him in working to relieve suffering. His behaviour – a
model for humanrights advocates of the future – may be summarised as
follows:
. Firm belief in absolute equality;
. Unwavering reliance on non-violent, compassionate dialogue;
3. Earnest, courageous challenge to achieving the self-realisation of oneself
and others.
Firm belief in absolute equality means to believe that all living beings are
equally endowed with buddhahood, which is universal dignity. Unwavering
reliance on non-violent, compassionate dialogue is the battle to extirpate
evils such as anger, greed and foolishness and to evoke the spirit of
compassion and justice, by means of dialogue without resorting to violent
means. Earnest, courageous challenge to realisation of oneself and others is
made possible by the boddhisattva’s courageous struggles. Oneself, from
the Buddhist perspective, is nothing but buddhahood. It is possible to build
happy lives when each person makes his or her own particular personality
bloom by bringing forth their buddhahood.
ATHAYDE: As what you say proves, your thoughts and deeds are all future-
oriented. You teach new value criteria to shake humanity from its conceited
assurance of being the lord of creation and, on the level of the faith our
humanity requires, stimulate the development of a new human history.
KEDA: Yes, and rights to happiness and self-realisation are the primary focus
of third-generation human rights and must be regarded as global,
transcending national boundaries. As human beings travel into outer space,
they will take respect for and observation of fundamental rights with them.
When this happens, ultimate reverence will be afforded to the ‘religious’
element inherent in the cosmos and, as the Buddha nature, in each
individual human life as well.
The radiance of dignity of the universe must have moved Einstein and
astronomers by something cosmic and universal. The wish of each single
individual – the small universe – for the right to live in happiness will
prompt them to awakening of the buddhahood inherent in their lives. The
radiance of human dignity will unite with the dignity of the universe, and
people will realise that universal religious elements are the source of their
radiance. In the new century of human rights, a brilliant new humanism will
emerge, rooted in universal religious elements. In memory of my own
mentor’s behest and to keep my vow to you, who make me feel as if my
mentor were still alive, I am determined to do all I can do to help this
radiant perspective unfold.
ATHAYDE: History will remember you and the deeds of the movement you
lead. I feel certain that the twenty-first century will see the historic
realisation of the new humanism you envisage.
CHAPTER 10
Paternal Images
The eldest daughter of the Athayde family, Mrs. Sandroni was born in Rio
de Janeiro in 1934. After graduating from Getúlio Vargas Foundation, she
acquired a master’s degree in Brazilian literature from the Federal
University of Rio de Janeiro. Since 1975 she has written a column on young
peoples literature for the newspaper O Globo. In addition, she is director of
the Roberto Marinho Foundation for the Promotion of Reading. A member
of the Brazil Pen Club and the Brazil Federal Cultural Policy Committee,
she is the author of such books as De Lobato a Bojunga: as reinações
renovadas (From Lobato to Bojunga: the New Generation).
Cícero Sandroni (Journalist)
Mr. Ikeda, who was born in Tokyo in 1953, graduated from the Department
of Law and the Department of Literature of Keio University and, beginning
in 1978, taught at the Kansai Soka high school, where he later became a
director. He began working at the Soka Gakkai headquarters in 1989. At
present, he is vice general director of Soka Gakkai, trustee of Soka
University, and head councilor to the Tokyo Fuji Art Museum. He is
especially active in international scholarly and cultural exchanges and
represents his father, Daisaku Ikeda, president of SGI, in many overseas
events.
Hardships in Youth
AURA: My father’s young years were spent in poverty in the back country of
the State of Ceará. In 1918, he left for a life in Rio de Janeiro that, as he
frequently told us, was hard until he finally became a journalist.
HIROMASA: My own father often calls the hardships of youth life’s greatest
treasure. But please tell us more about Mr. Athayde’s youthful struggles.
AURA: He became a journalist at about the age of twenty. Until then, he
depended on help from our grandfather Antonio Austregésilo. Father
worked from morning until night – as a private tutor in the daytime and at
the offices of the United Press in the evenings. At about that time, in São
Paulo, an armed constitutional-protection movement rose up against the
dictatorship of Getúlio Vargas.
HIROMASA: Yes, your father joined it and was imprisoned and exiled as a
result. In fact, I believe he and your mother postponed their wedding on that
account.
ROBERTO: That is right. They got engaged in 1931, the year before the
constitutional-protection movement. My father was imprisoned twice
during the following year.
AURA: He put his wedding off for three months so that he could devote
himself completely to the revolutionary struggle in São Paulo. Mother was
so worried because the two of them could not get in touch that she lost ten
kilogrammes. Father used to call this period the greatest trial he and she
ever had to endure.
In 1944, he was put in prison for about ten days – over the New Year
holiday – for writing an article critical of the Vargas regime. I have heard
that Mr. Ikeda, too, was once unjustly imprisoned.
HIROMASA: Yes, in July 1957. I was only four at the time. All I remember
about it was that my mother went to Osaka to meet him when he got out.
An election campaign the year before led up to his imprisonment. The
whole thing is related in the tenth volume of father’s novel The Human
Revolution. The volume came out in book form in 1967, just as I was
getting ready to go to the Osaka-Kyoto district to join the faculty of the
Kansai Soka Gakuen. That may be why the book impressed me strongly
with a sense of reality.
HIROMASA: Not well. I was only five when he died. I do remember that he
treated me affectionately. For instance, he always said that I must not grow
up being picky about food. Then, to make it more appetising, he would
sprinkle sugar on whatever it was that I objected to eating at the moment.
He gave me the name Hiromasa. The Hiro part means broad and
indicates breadth of study. Masa means just and upright. I am afraid I do not
live up to my name, though.
AURA: I suppose your father told you many impressive things about Mr.
Toda.
HIROMASA: Actually, my father always has Mr. Toda in his heart. On the
eleventh of February, 1993 – which would have been Mr. Toda’s ninety-
third birthday – father completed the last of the twelve volumes of his
serialised novel, The Human Revolution. On that day, as, in the presence of
Mr. Athayde, he received an honorary doctorate from the Federal
University of Brazil, he remarked that he felt as if Mr. Toda were with him
in Rio de Janeiro.
Incidentally, I hear that Mr. Athayde’s library contains forty thousand
volumes. What kinds of books did he like reading most?
AURA: He was a voracious reader in many fields. As a journalist, he was
very sensitive to information. His open personality aroused his interest in
everything. He read the works of Machado de Assis and the French classics
over and over and was very fond of Baudelaire and Victor Hugo.
HIROMASA: From his youth, my father also loved Hugo. To help preserve his
spiritual heritage for the future, he created the Victor Hugo House of
Literature in a region of France closely associated with the great writer. Did
your father recommend any particular books to you?
AURA: No. But, when I was twenty, he told me that every book in his library
was filled with human wisdom, and that I was free to read anything I liked
there.
CÍCERO: He recommended that I read Greek and Roman classics like the
Odyssey and Plato and Virgil’s Aeneid, which he considered an essential
foundation for human morality.
Unforgettable Encounters
HIROMASA: I have heard that, in the evening, Mr. Athayde often sat on a
bench in front of the Academy of Letters, under a bust of first president
Assis, and talked sociably with passers-by.
AURA: Yes, he loved conversations with ordinary people. I have known him
to spend hours talking with fishermen on the island of Itacuruçá, where he
had a weekend house. In language they could understand, he would discuss
all kinds of topics, including political issues. Sitting on the bench outside
the academy brought him into contact with citizens who respected his work
as a journalist and his academic activities.
CÍCERO: Once I sat there with him, listening as he gave advice to people who
had family troubles, to parents who had difficulties with children, and to
couples whose marriages were almost on the rocks. For him, talking with
ordinary people was a relaxing way of staying in touch with reality.
HIROMASA: He was a truly democratic leader who cheered the distressed,
encouraged the suffering and gave hope to the young. In its obituary, a
leading Rio de Janeiro newspaper said that Mr. Athayde got along well with
everyone and was everyone’s friend. It added that he treated everyone –
intellectuals, diplomats, businessmen, artists, the old, the young, the poor
and the sick – equally and without prejudice or discrimination.
ROBERTO: Being popular with non-intellectuals made him both happy and
proud.
HIROMASA: Young people seemed to have been especially attracted to him.
According to a 1990 questionnaire, he was extremely popular with women
students at São Paulo University.
AURA: He loved talking with young people, and they loved listening to
humorous and optimistic comments. And young people enjoy hearing
intelligent old people who make them laugh.
ROBERTO: Once his humorous treatment of a shrewd female finance minister
won a round of hearty applause from a young crowd. This woman had
adopted the policy of freezing all bank accounts for a year. My father told
her that, if he were younger, he would have proposed to her. Then she
would have learned both the mistake of marrying an old man and the error
of her fiscal policies.
AURA: I would be interested to know who among the many people you must
have met made the most lasting impression on you.
HIROMASA: To tell the truth, meeting Mr. Athayde made the biggest
impression. From the outset, his brimming vitality and humanity attracted
me. At our first meeting, he gave me a Portuguese dictionary and instructed
me to learn his language. He was already too old, he said, to learn Japanese.
I shall never forget the candour and friendliness with which he treated me. I
am embarrassed to say, however, that I still have made so little progress in
Portuguese that we need the services of an interpreter today.
Another person who impressed me deeply was Dr. Bishambhar Nath
Pande, vice-chairman of the Gandhi Memorial Hall and direct disciple of
Mahatma Gandhi. Although he is old enough to be my grandfather, he
talked about Gandhi with me as if I were his equal. Like Mr. Athayde, the
indomitable Dr. Pande refuses to bow to authority and has courageously
struggled to survive in the face of oppression.
AURA: You seem to understand my father very well. I am honoured.
HIROMASA: Your father continued his struggle for human rights even at the
advanced ages of eighty and even ninety. In the same way, Dr. Pande
perseveringly carries on Gandhi’s teachings. The willingness of both men to
take the initiative in actions accounts for their understanding of and
sympathy with my father and the work of SGI.
AURA: Father often told our family how greatly he respected Mr. Ikeda.
HIROMASA: Other people who have impressed me include Rosa Parks the so-
called mother of the American civil-rights movement and, in my own age
group, Fábio Magalhães, curator of the São Paulo Museum of Art, and his
friend the composer Amaral Vieira, who has composed a widely performed
symphony inspired by my father’s philosophy.
A Wholesome, Active Way of Life
HIROMASA: They say your father went fishing and camped out in a tent in
Pantanaru, in the western part of Brazil, when he was already ninety-one.
He never smoked and drank no strong spirits. Even when quite old, he
apparently lived the active life of a man in his forties.
AURA: His capacity for work was well known. He wrote six newspaper
articles daily until his last years, when he reduced the number to three. At
the end of his academy work day, at six in the evening, he almost always
had a lecture or reception to attend. He ate dinner out every day and often
went to the theatre or the movies. He was unbelievably active.
His long walks alone indicate his great vigour. Even in his seventies, he
and mother walked four kilometres to a park every day. In his bachelor
days, he and Chateaubriand often went for long swims. Later, he and
mother enjoyed swimming and swam across the straits between the
mainland and Itacuruçá Island on several occasions.
ROBERTO: For many years he refused to use a loud speaker because he was
proud of his own strong voice. Does Mr. Ikeda include a health-promoting
programme in his daily activities?
HIROMASA: Unlike Mr. Athayde, my father was far from robust in his youth.
But his health improved largely because he consistently put all his strength
into everything he did. After a hospitalisation nine years ago, he returned
his daily-life rhythm to normal by carefully following doctor’s orders.
Like Mr. Athayde, he drinks practically no alcohol. For many years, he
smoked. Mother tried to get him to stop. And finally, after his bout in the
hospital, he did break the habit completely. When at home and while
traveling, too, he regularly exercises a few minutes daily. Away from home,
he works out lightly in his hotel room or in nearby parks or plazas where
the companionship of young people has a rejuvenating effect on him. In
this, too, he is like Mr. Athayde.
CÍCERO: One of the earliest was the issue of the aboriginal populations. He
featured the Indians in the inner Amazon for the journal O Cruzeiro – the
very first attempt at publicising the problem in Brazil. In his article, he
described the disappearance of some seventy aboriginal languages as the
loss of a part of the human heritage.
He brought the problem of street children to light ten years ago, when
their numbers were still fairly small. Today Brazilian street children number
five million. My father-in-law, who said that, at the time of writing, only the
tip of the iceberg was visible, called the problem a bomb waiting to go off.
He insisted that measures on a much larger scale than mere social welfare
were essential if a solution was to be found. By this he meant a sweeping
revision of the whole educational system.
ROBERTO: In an interview, father asked Albert Einstein, ‘Is there a place in the
universe for God?’ Einstein answered that, since every effect has a cause
and since everything results from causes and effects, there must be a reason
for the existence of the universe. In this sense, according to Einstein, the
existence of God seems likely.
I think father asked the question because he sought the cause of the
universe in the concept of God.
HIROMASA: His intuitive grasp closely approximates the fundamentals of
Buddhism, which originated with the discovery of cause-and-effect
relations in all things. The Law of Cause and Effect permeates the universe
and transcends time and space.
ROBERTO: Father memorised some of the works of the famous Portuguese
poet Abilio Manuel Guerra Junqueiro. Following his example, I learned
some too. One poem can be paraphrased this way. A certain priest kept a
bird in a cage. The bird wanted to escape into the expanses of the sky. In
desperation at its imprisonment, it threw itself against the bars of the cage
and died. But its soul flew up, free, into the heavens. The message, of
course, is that though the body may be caged, nothing can imprison the
spirit – the soul.
HIROMASA: Our very humanity depends on freedom of the spirit, the
quintessential element of religious faith. Throughout his entire life, Mr.
Athayde battled those evil forces that hinder human happiness. We must
carry on his struggle and, by securing freedom of the spirit, heighten the
lustre of the meritorious heritage he left us.
Free Expression
HIROMASA: What principles guided Mr. Athayde as a reporter, columnist and
editorialist constantly doing battle with injustice?
CÍCERO: Strong convictions. From his youth he immersed himself in Greek
and Latin classics in the search for the best kind of world view. He studied
the evolution of English parliamentary democracy and the ideas that
influenced the American Revolutionary War. During his visit to the United
States in about 1930 he came into contact with many cultural leaders. As an
outcome of these experiences, he became convinced that development for
Brazil must begin with thoroughgoing protection of liberty. And, as was
rare in the constantly changing Brazil of his time, he never wavered from
this conviction.
HIROMASA: In his early years, my father, too, used journalism as a means of
championing free thought and expression. Shortly after the end of the
Second World War, when he was in his twenties, he edited a young peoples’
magazine called Boken Shonen (Adventure Boy), which was the offshoot of
another magazine called Shogakusei Nihon (Primary-school-pupils’ Japan),
founded in 1940 by Josei Toda. At the time, most magazines outdid each
other in glorifying the Sino-Japanese war. Shogakusei Nihon, however, tried
hard to help children expand their views and to grow into cultivated citizens
of the world. It did this by carrying reports on outstanding aspects of the
civilisation and industry of other nations, by including special features like
its ‘Mother of Science’ series, and by warning young people of the danger
of believing things they did not understand.
HIROMASA: Thank you. I know mother would be happy to hear that. Mother
was nineteen when she and father got married. They have been together for
forty-two years. Although perhaps I should not say it, mother had her hands
full raising us three boys. She has always been in charge of everything at
home, father, us and household affairs. She used to say, ‘Our house is full of
men. Plenty of feet, but no helping hands!’
After we boys grew up, mother began accompanying father on his trips.
Because he was not physically strong, she saw to it that he took good care
of himself. Of course, especially overseas, wives are expected to be present
at various official functions.
AURA: As a daughter, I could tell just how much support mother gave father.
When he was suggested as the Brazilian representative to the United
Nations Third Committee for debating the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights, he was not very enthusiastic. He was unwilling to neglect his
journalistic work. Then too, he did like travelling. Mr. Chateaubriand, who
was chairman of the board of directors of the newspaper company where
father worked, told him he could combine both tasks by writing articles on
Paris while he was there. And mother strongly encouraged him by agreeing
to go along. Finally he agreed. His work in Paris became one of his major
achievements. Fourteen at the time, I was enraptured at the chance of going
with them and spending three months in Paris.
HIROMASA: I, too, enjoy being in Paris. To me, the most impressive of the
many people I have met during my several visits to France is René Huyghe,
member of the Académie Française and curator of the Jacquemart-André
Museum in Paris. He and Mr. Athayde met in Rio de Janeiro on the
occasion of the completion of the Brazil Culture Center.
Mr. Huyghe praised my father’s photographs very highly as ‘poetry
composed by his eyes’ and helped arrange a showing of his ‘Dialogue with
Nature’ at the Malle museum. Many distinguished guests, including Senator
Alain Poher, attended the opening on 3 May, 1988. Mr. Huyghe himself
selected the photographs and saw to the framing, the layout and the
lighting. In spite of his advanced age, the night before the opening, he
worked right beside the people he was supervising. The sight of him doing
this touched me deeply.
ROBERTO: What are your favourites among your father’s photographs?
HIROMASA: He was the fifth of nine children. All four of his older brothers
went off to war, leaving their parents and the younger children at home for
father to look after. His oldest brother was killed in the fighting. The family
house was burned in an air raid, and my father’s state of health deteriorated
seriously. His anti-war attitudes originated from these experiences.
The twenty-first century will tell whether human rights gain full global
recognition, whether peace or war will prevail, whether happiness or
unhappiness awaits humankind.
Itself a kind of constitution, the Universal Declaration addresses these
issues straight on. A pioneering worker for the good of humanity, Mr.
Athayde contributed appreciably to its creation. It is for us now to realise
the ideals it sets forth.
Our mission, as heirs to Mr. Athayde’s spiritual heritage and
achievements, is to create a new beacon of human rights. At the conclusion
of our discussion, I am sure all of you join me in vowing to see this mission
fulfilled.
Glossary
Chapter 1
. The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, Volume II, trans. Soka Gakkai (Tokyo:
Soka Gakkai, 2006), p.844
. The Records of the Orally Transmitted Teachings, trans. Burton Watson
(Tokyo: Soka Gakkai, 2004), p.4
. The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, Volume II, p.843
Chapter 3
. The Lotus Sutra, trans. Burton Watson (New York, Columbia University
Press, 1993), p.36
. The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, trans. Soka Gakkai (Tokyo: Soka
Gakkai, 1999), p.169
Chapter 5
. Zweig, Stefan, Brazil: Land of the Future, trans. Andrew St. James (New
York: The Viking Press, 1941), p.12
. The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, trans. Soka Gakkai (Tokyo: Soka
Gakkai, 1999), p.1125
. The Dhammapada, trans. Friedrich Max Müller (from Pali) (Delhi: Motilal
Banarsidass, 1973)
. I Timothy, 6:12.
. The Majjhima Nikāya, rendered and abridged from the Pali by Bhikkuh
Silacra (London: Probsthain and Co., 1912), p.39
Chapter 6
. The Vimalakīrti Sutra, trans. Burton Watson (New York: Columbia
University Press, 1997), pp.65–66
Chapter 8
. The Book of the Kindred Sayings (Samyutta-Nikāya), trans. Rhys Davids
(London, Luzac & Company Ltd., 1971)
. The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, trans. Soka Gakkai (Tokyo: Soka
Gakkai, 1999), p.578
. Tsunesaburo Makiguchi, Chirigaku Kyoju no Hoho oyobi Naiyo no Kenkyu
(Research in the methods and content of geographical instruction), included
in The Complete Works of Tsunesaburo Makiguchi, Vol.4 (Tokyo, Daisan
bunmei-sha, 1981)
. Zweig, Stefan, Brazil—Land of the Future (New York: The Viking Press,
1941), p.35.
. The Records of the Orally Transmitted Teachings, trans. Burton Watson
(Tokyo: Soka Gakkai, 2004), p.30
Chapter 9
. The Lotus Sutra, trans. Burton Watson (New York: Columbia University
Press, 1993), pp.266–267
. The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, trans. Soka Gakkai (Tokyo: Soka
Gakkai, 1999), p.851–852
. The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, p.417
Daisaku Ikeda
President
Soka Gakkai International
Born in Tokyo on January 2, 1928, Mr. Ikeda graduated from Fuji Junior
College. He is Honorary President of Soka Gakkai and President of Soka
Gakkai International (SGI). Over a period of years, he has conducted
dialogues with outstanding thinkers from all over the world in connection
with his efforts to promote education, culture and global peace on the basis
of the Buddhist philosophy. His efforts have won him numerous awards,
including the United Nations Peace Prize and the Brazilian State Order of
the Southern Cross. His numerous literary works have been translated into
many languages.
Austregésilo de Athayde
Former President
Brazilian Academy of Letters