air foil sieve for 8010 - small grain crops

Anyone used one of these on a later model case combine? If so how'd it go...and any suggestions for setting it up on an 08 8010?
My dealer dropped one of these out this morning for us to try. He thinks it's a 'Harvest Air' model but looking on their website
it doesn't say that they make adjustable air foil sieves. So no idea what make it is. It only came with mounting instructions,
nothing else.
It came pre set with a sieve section missing every second slot (as shown in pic 1) for the first 10 odd rows - 'to blast the
straw early to help seperation' apparently. This how others are using theirs?

I might throw it in this arvo and try it tommorrow when we get going again. Currently stripping wheat which is going about
4t/ha. Think thats about 58bu/acre in US terms???

Any thoughts or suggestions on these things?

Cheers,
Ryan

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Interesting, never seen a air foil for a 8010, we run ours with standard sieves, no issues, scott.

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Air-foil sieves

I have used these sieves in the past, I think Neils Parts sell them over here.
The first time was in a 1460 which had the shorter top sieve and therefore sieve capacity was often the limiting factor in warm
conditions. So i used an air-foil sieve with every other louvre out (a plain wire replaces the louvres to stop too much long
straw from falling through) of the front section. This allowed more grain to fall through the front of the top sieve quickly,
which increased top sieve capacity and also makes the bottom sieve load up more, closer to the front, rather than half way
along. I found a significant increase in sieve capacity in warm conditions, so it was great in clean crops. However i found that
if a crop had a brome grass seed problem it couldn't be floated off the top sieve anymore.
The second time was in a 2388 and this air-foil sieve had the three section that were independantly adjustable like the factory
sieve, so i used this one with all the louvres in it and just opened the front section up further in clean crops if needed. So
no great difference noticed over the standard sieve in this situation.
I too now have an '08 model 8010 so i would be interested to hear how you get on with that sieve. The thing to watch would be
possible overloading the front of the bottom sieve as can happen if the pre-sieve is open too wide. It might be a case of
getting the combination of pre-sieve setting and the number of missing louvres in the front of the top sieve to balance with the
capacity of the bottom sieve, otherwise you might fill up your fan housing very quickly!
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Harvestaire | Catalogues
Page 29/30 has them
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Anyone on here making their own canola sieves? Make them here using melwire. Work a treat.
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whats melwire , Im about to do canola. Its going to have snails on it, would be nice to deliver without cleaning. We have a 06
model 8010 with standard seives. Any other tips would be appreciated as I have a **** load of contracts to fill before Dec 31st.
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Melwire (im pretty sure that it's either the brand or product name of the mesh) is a small diamond pattern of mesh that is
pressed / cut on a slight angle. It looks like the mesh surrounding engine air filter elements.

We make a fair few canola sieves for all makes and models of combines.
An 8010 requires a canola sieve for the pre-sieve and the top sieves. Allows only canola (and some fine STAG) to fall through to
the bottom sieve. Frame is welded up and melwire is rivited to the frame. You have to make sure the melwire is rivited on the
correct way due to the slight angle of the perforations.
Run the bottom sieve the same gap as for say wheat and barley and you'll get a clean sample.
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Melwire is also known as Expander Met or expander mesh. The sheet metal has rows of slits punched into it and then it is
stretched out (or expanded) to form the mesh. Various sizes of hole are available for different grains, i have used the mesh to
get a cleaner sample of lentils before. The style of mesh has a large % of open area for good airflow, however some grain can
bounce along the basically flat surface and increase sieve losses, as happens with any flat mesh used for a top sieve. This loss
could well be less than the losses/cost of re-cleaning however.
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Hi to all. Sorry to open up this discussion again after a few years. Got an 8230 new last year and intersted in giving expanded
mesh sieves a try in canola. What size mesh have you used in the presieve and top sieve? Is there more/less losses by using
expanded mesh?

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