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(CONFERENCE CALL INITIATED) a.m. MR. MR. MR. VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO: Good morning Steve. How are you doing Marty? A little tired but okay.

MR. fact.

TRAUTMAN: Hey, I

Yes,

I'm a lot tired

know that our folks that

talked to Mr.

Weber earlier today -VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: I was in the room. I know they

MR. MR.

Okay good.

gave you some data points that we got from Ronald Reagan. MR. MR. MR. MR. VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: Yes. We got an additional one. Okay. The ship was out, we

thought they were getting further away from port and they went up to 130 miles or from the plant, were still reading a direct gamma shine of 0.6 and I am still working on the -fact we just got an in longitude and we

millirem per hour,

the exact ship position and in

additional data point from them that is

and latitude and we are busy patching that to NARAC right now so they can update the plots for all of us

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as part of this process. MR. calculations on that dose? MR. source? MR.
MR.

VIRGILIO:

Okay.

Are you doing back-

or is

somebody doing back-calculations

TRAUTMAN:

Back-calculations

to the

VIRGILIO:
TRAUTMAN:

Yes.
Yes, we are -frankly

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the answer to that is not done it yet.

yes,

but we are not -frankly,

we have

We are not used to,

dealing with the intermediate

age here.

We have got

a reactor that has been shut down for three days and so we are having to do a little we would normally do in working that, yes.
VIRGILIO: Okay. Is there -there

bit

more math than but we are

getting to that,

MR.

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is

some central source,

(inaudible) back to IMAC

(phonetic).
MR. MCDERMOTT: IMAC does the -this is

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Brian McDermott -have exercises

yes,

IMAC does the plot.

When we

and we practice with them,

usually

our protective measures team generates the source term and provides it have in to IMAC, but whatever data you if we can provide that they should be able

terms of field data,

to our technical measures team,

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have -like

to do a back-calculation some damage assessment. MR.

I

just to at least give us

TRAUTMAN:
said,

Yes,

well they should

you already had four data today

--

points from us earlier

MR. 7 8
if you can --

MCDERMOTT: TRAUTMAN:

Okay. with different times, so

MR.

MALE PARTICIPANT: 1 communicated to us? MR. 12 13 14 15 16 17 i8 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 reactors at was let's

things.

How is

that

TRAUTMAN:

That was via the phone Weber, is

conversation with Admiral Donald and Mr. what I was told. MALE PARTICIPANT: four data points and let's got them, if

Let's go over those

just make sure we have

you have got them handy.

MR. TRAUTMAN: I do. This was a
--

this

see,

at 100 nautical miles,

I had three

We had 7.5 --

MR.

VIRGILIO:

Hey,

hang on a second

Steve.
MR. MR.
--

TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO:

Okay. Kathryn, this is naval

MS.

BROCK:

Oh,

we were just trying to

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call them. MR. VIRGILIO: Okay,

now
--

we have got three

four data points

4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 distance, go determine time. that?

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MS. MR.

BROCK:

Okay. Do you want to come up Could you go ahead

VIRGILIO:

to the table? I'm sorry Steve. and start again. MR.

At 100 nautical miles -TRAUTMAN: Hundred nautical miles we were microcuries

with a portable air sample beta gamma, reading 7.5 times 10 to the minus per milliliter. MR. MR.
th
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th

VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN:

Say the number again. 7.5 times 10 to the minus air sample. Okay.
At --

microcuries per milliliter, MR.

MR.

VIRGILIO:
TRAUTMAN:

MALE PARTICIPANT:

Do you have a time on

MR.

TRAUTMAN:

Oh

--

yes,

I have got to

--

I have a 1300 but that must be local when you passed those were Okay.

Do you remember --

those local time sir? You didn't pass that. Then at 1430,

essentially the same

we had three times to the minus nine and then again at 1700 it

microcuries per milliliter

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127 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 getting is miles? MR. TRAUTMAN: Yes. And what we were are going and then we time, 1700? MR. MR. TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO: Yes. All at 100 nautical was back up to 7.5. MR. VIRGILIO: And what was the third

our APDs

(phonetic)

did portable air samples as part of that process. 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 miles. MR. MR. VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: And the time? I don't have that. I'll additional MR. VIRGILIO: Okay, so now the

data point that we have -MR. TRAUTMAN: Was at 130 nautical

have to get you the time and I'm also another data point as well. MR. VIRGILIO: Okay,

I have got

and that was 0.6

millirem per hour? MR. TRAUTMAN: Correct, from beta gamma

shine that was actually pointing at the sky. MS. BROCK: Wait, that was the one that

was at 130 miles? MR. MS. TRAUTMAN: BROCK: Yes. Do you have a

Okay.

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128 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 have airlifted germanium counter so that you can put the air sample on that? MRz TRAUTMAN: Not on board ship. We

them to Atsugi and we are sending it in Yokosuka where there is at the a

down to our facility

germanium detector but I don't have it moment. MS. time frame is? MR. MS. MR. TRAUTMAN: BROCK: BROCK: Okay.

What do you think the

On getting that data?

Yes. I suspect we are at least at least. thank you. we will

TRAUTMAN:

six hours away from that, MS. MR. BROCK:

Okay,

TRAUTMAN:

Once we get it,

certainly pass it. MS. BROCK: (Inaudible) in case you have

any questions that you need to see a model (phonetic, inaudible) MR. of this data is TRAUTMAN: We are all dumping -all

being passed to the DOE NARAC site, they should be able to start

and so with everything,

hopefully generating some more refined plume plots for us. MS. BROCK: Okay. But we have been

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129 1 2 (inaudible) with them too, (inaudible) so we are working hand in models and sources terms

hand as far as

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and different things. MR. TRAUTMAN: Okay good. This sample is taken

MALE PARTICIPANT:

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from an airborne aircraft? MR. TRAUTMAN: No, U.S. it was taken on the

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deck of the Ronald Reagan, carrier.

Navy aircraft

MALE PARTICIPANT: above the deck? MR. from the ship. MALE PARTICIPANT: it's definitely not in MR. I don't know, This is ship. TRAUTMAN: Yes,

Okay.

Is

it

clearly

this is

not coming

Okay,

I mean,

if

--

the cloud. The answer is it -well,

TRAUTMAN:

I'm not sure what you are asking me. we do not have deposition on the

not a --

This is

coming from a cloud. Okay.

MALE PARTICIPANT: MR. TRAUTMAN:

We have nothing

measurable on the deck. MS. contaminated. MR. TRAUTMAN: Well, that's not true. We BROCK: Nobody has been

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had a --

MS. contamination? MR.

BROCK:

Oh,

there's been

TRAUTMAN:

We had an individual who the

was on a Japanese ship that was more directly in plume have some contamination on their feet, we did detect as part of the process. from the deck on the aircraft MS. Okay. BROCK: Okay, But it

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which was not

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carriers. I didn't realize that.

MR. MR. place? MR.

from us.

TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO:

Yes. Do you know if that took

TRAUTMAN:

Well,

it

wasn't coming

Frankly --

I mean I

think they did ship-to

ship connection. MR. MR.

what I --

VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN:

Good. But more importantly,

was you

what was supposed to be happening

guys were going to be connecting with METI so that

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131 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 have got it. MR. Ulses and Trapp. MR. MR. VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: in Yes. Ulses has landed in Can you tell me which TRAUTMAN: Another piece, your guys MR. VIRGILIO: Okay, we have got it. We
they knew that their -you know, they had data

points on the plume and could take some action to get those ships moved out of the way. MR. VIRGILIO: Right.

Misawa and Trapp is of those two guys is embassy? MR.

Narita.

supposed to be going to the

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VIRGILIO:

Well,

Tony is

on his way

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132 1 2 3 4 5 in Misawa, right now, we understand. MR. MR. MR. TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: Which guy is Tony Ulses. Okay. But he is the guy that?

which is MR.

north of this event. Right, but we understood there was some

VIRGILIO:

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that the plane had some problems, landing gear problems, repaired. So -MALE PARTICIPANT: back en route? MALE PARTICIPANT: Misawa to Tokyo right now. MR. MR. direction is TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO: Okay,

but that the plane had been

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So that he should be

He's on a flight from

excellent. I guess

And his,

to get with Ambassador Roos's staff. MR. TRAUTMAN: Yes, I mean, I will tell

you there is

--

I ended up talking to the DCM last

night because they were clearly trying to reach out and touch somebody, and didn't feel like they had and I -that's

anybody to lean on on this business, why we had this connection morning, is last

night and this it was going to be,

try to get whoever

connected with the Ambassador. MR. VIRGILIO: And we also have Jim.

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133 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the airport. the best. direction. MR. TRAUTMAN: Okay, so both are going Trapp, who is on the ground in TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO: Narita --

MR. MR.

Right. headed in the same

to the embassy at this point? MR. VIRGILIO: I think that's probably

Let me just stop and ask Mike Schulz.

Shall we vector them both to the embassy at this point?

MR. SCHULZ: I think Jim is -Jim is at

He is

catching a bus to his hotel and

we are trying to link him up with the people at the embassy. MR. MR. VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: Good. Okay good. Do you need

the number there for the naval attache who they ought to touch base with?

MR.
MR. MR.

SCHULZ:
TRAUTMAN: VIRGILIO:

Yes, that's correct. We have qot his cell and All right, good.

his office number. MR. TRAUTMAN:

(Inaudible) MR. TRAUTMAN: Okay.

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134 MR. VIRGILIO: All right, we have got

everything we need Steve. MR. data, TRAUTMAN:

Thank you very much. Yes, when I get more we ought to touch

which I am sure we will, if we can. VIRGILIO:

periodically,

MR. to get in

All right,

now how best

touch with you? MR. TRAUTMAN: Our ECC number here, and

this is line, is

rather than a bri dge line,

just a direct

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MR. in

VIRGILIO:

All right Steve,

we'll be

touch through the day. MR. TRAUTMAN: All right, appreciate it,

thanks Marty. MR. MR. VIRGILIO: TRAUTMAN: All righty. Take care, Bye now. bye bye.

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