You are on page 1of 14

CHAPTER 5

THE TRIAL AND DEATH OF SOCRATES

1
The Phaedo (Death Scene)
• In philosophy, reading aloud often helps us to
better understand; read slowly

• In this selection of The Phaedo, Socrates is


preparing to die (Melchert 114 – 117)

• Try to get a sense of Socrates in these last


moments of his life

2
Reading Plato
• Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, and Phaedo
• Major figure = Socrates
• As accurate a picture of the historical Socrates as we
can find
• Hint: Read through all the dialogues
– Just get a sense of the dialogues
– Then go to commentary and questions in the text as you
reread
• We will begin work on reading the Euthyphro together
and then break into smaller groups . . .
3
• Socrates claims to have a divine sign
Euthyphro (daemon)
• Socrates is eager to be Euthyphro’s
pupil
WHO: • Socrates is searching for a definition
Euthyphro and Socrates
WHAT: of “the pious” (the holy, godly).
Conversation between the two • Three requirements to satisfy
WHERE:
Near the king-archon’s court
Socrates:
WHEN: – A satisfactory answer will pick out some
Socrates is seventy; toward the feature that is the same in every pious
end of his life action.
WHY: – This feature will not be shared by any
Miletus has indicted Socrates for
impious action.
corrupting the youth of Athens
and for not believing in the gods – It will be that feature (or the lack of it)
in whom the city believes that makes an action pious (or impious).

4
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 2a-5a (Whole class)
– Q1. Why does Socrates say that Meletus is likely to be wise? (2c)

– Q2. What sort of character does S. ascribe to M. here? Is S. sincere in


his praise of M.?

– Q3. There seem to be two charges against S. Can you identify them?
(2c, 3b)

– Q4. Why is E. in court?

– Q5. What does E. claim to know?

5
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 5a-6e (Group 1)
– Q6. Why does S. say he wants E. to instruct him? Do you think he
really expects to be helped?

– Q7. Do you think this is going to be a serious inquiry? Or is S. having


some sport with E.?

– Q8. What does E. say piety is?

6
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 5a-6e (Group 1)
– Q9. What does S. focus on as the likely reason he is on trial?

– Q10. What is S.’s objection to the definition E. has proposed?

7
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 7a-9b (Group 2)
– Q11. What is E’s second answer?

– Q12. Why does S. exclaim, “Splendid?”

– Q13. What is the difference between answering “in the way” he


wanted and giving a “true” answer?

8
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 7a-9b (Group 3)
– Q14. How does S. derive the conclusion (8a) that “the same things
then are loved by the gods and hated by the gods? Is this a correct
deduction from the statements E. previously agreed to?

– Q15. What further conclusion follows? Why is that disturbing?

9
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 7a-9b (Group 3)
– Q16. What do people dispute about concerning wrongs and
penalties? And what not?

– Q17. Do you believe that S. has put E. in an untenable position


here?

10
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 9c – 11d (Group 4)
– Q18. Is this a good argument? Suppose, in response to the
question, “Why do the gods love the pious?” one were to reply,
“They just do!” Is S. assuming that there must be a reason? Is he
assuming what he needs to prove? Think about this.

– Q19. Why is S. reminded of Daedalus here?

11
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 11e – end (Group 5)
– Q20. What answer do the two settle on? Why?

– Q21. In what way are the fear/shame and odd/number distinctions


analogous?

– Q22. What are the two kinds of “care” that are distinguished? (13a-c
and 13d – e)

12
Commentary and Questions
• Euthyphro 11e – end (Group 5)
– Q23. Which kind of care is the relevant one? Why?

– Q25. What characteristic of S. do you think P. means to impress


upon us in S’ next-to-last speech?

– Q27. Has E. learned anything in the course of this discussion?

13
References

Melchert, N. (2014). The Great Conversation: A Historical Introduction


to Philosophy, 7th ed. (New York: Oxford University Press, 2014).

PHOTO CREDITS

• Martyr to Philosophy eljuegodefilosofar.blogspot.com (Cover)

14

You might also like