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By Tilda Evans
EM
• A theme throughout William’s essay is
that he uses the case of EM to support the
idea that we would not want to be
immortal.
• Elina Makropulos, who has a series of
aliases, is a character from an opera by
Janacek, who is immortal by drinking an
elixir.
• EM hates being immortal, eventually
leading her to stop taking the elixir. EM’s
state suggests three claims:
• That death is not necessarily an evil
• That death can provide an end to great
suffering
• And that it can be a good thing not to live https://simonparrismaninchair.com/
too long. 2012/05/09/met-opera-the-makropulos-
WILLIAMS BEGINS BY COMPARING
LUCRETIUS’S VIEW ON DEATH TO NAGEL’S
LUCRETIUS NAGEL
• Finds comfort in the conviction that death • Criticises Lucretius’s first argument, as it
brings the complete annihilation of life. implies that nothing can be an evil for a
• Argues that death is never an evil. man if he does not know about it. Gives
• Says that when we fear death, we are just example of a betrayal that a man doesn’t
confused, based on the idea that we shall be know about still being a betrayal.
there after death to mourn our loss of the • Death is bad because it leads to a
praemia vitae. BUT if death is an annihilation,
deprivation in experiences.
we won’t mourn this loss.
• Praemia vitae: the rewards and delights of life.
• His second argument says that if makes sense
to want to die later rather than earlier, as there
would be a shorter amount of death. This
appears to contradict the claim that death is
never an evil.
WILLIAMS BEGINS BY COMPARING
LUCRETIUS’S VIEW ON DEATH TO NAGEL’S
LUCRETIUS NAGEL
• Finds comfort in the conviction that death • Criticises Lucretius’s first argument, as it
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brings the complete annihilation of life.
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implies that nothing can be an evil for a
• Argues that death is never an evil. man if he does not know about it. Gives
in
• Says that when we fear death, we are just example of a betrayal that a man doesn’t
confused, based on the idea that we shall be know about still being a betrayal.
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there after death to repine our loss of the • Death is bad because it leads to a
praemia vitae. BUT if death is an annihilation,
deprivation in experiences.
we won’t mourn this loss.
• Praemia vitae: the rewards and delights of life.
• His second argument says that if makes sense
to want to die later rather than earlier, as there
would be a shorter amount of death. This
appears to contradict the claim that death is
never an evil.
BUT!
• ‘Some desire [that] propels him on into • More hedonistic desires, which are
the future’ (Page 86) cancelled out by our death.
• ‘Not one that operates conditionally on • They are contingent on our being alive.
him being alive’ (Page 86)
• An example of a hypothetical desire is
• Contingent fact that most people have my desire to eat cake.
categorical desires
• An example he gives of a categorical
desire is the rational desire to commit
suicide, as this desire is clearly not
contingent on the person’s alive-ness.
CRITIQUE: COULD AN IMMORTAL BEING BE
SUSTAINED BY HYPOTHETICAL DESIRES ALONE?
BOREDOM
• One might make an immortal man content just by stripping him of his
consciousness, thus unable to feel this boredom. This does not seem like a
reasonable response.
• You could occupy your existence through intense intellectual enquiry. BUT
if this is done it will not meet the second condition that it should be me
who lives forever, and that the eternal life should be in prospect of some
interest.
• The case may be different for people whose desire was always to do this,
but Williams says ‘even if it offered something for freedom of intellect, it
offers nothing for freedom of the individual’. (Page 97)
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CRITICISM: DEFINITION OF AN
IMMORTAL BEING
• I would argue that boredom is not the reason immortality is bad, as Williams suggests.
• We all experience boredom, not just immortal beings. Williams has done little to show that
boredom leads to a meaningless life.
• Rather, immortality is bad because generally we want our lives to have a total of more positive
than negative experiences. Think of the hedonic calculus. Generally, we have more control over
positive experiences than negative ones. Mostly, things like buying myself a treat, going out to
see friends, or going to watch a movie are things that bring me joy. I have made an active
decision to do all of these things. Conversely, things like the loss of a loved one, my favourite
mug breaking in a dishwasher or my bus getting cancelled bring me a greater sense of loss.
• Due to this, statistically if I were to live forever, after a while I would grow to have achieved all
of the things that I can control e.g. the positive experiences, and only be left with the negative
experiences out of my control.
QUESTIONS FOR REFLECTION
• Do you agree with Lucretius that we should not fear death? If so, what does
that mean for the case for immortality?
• If you agree that immortality is bad, do you think it is because of boredom, that
statistical chance of unhappiness, or something else? If so, what?
• Having heard the arguments, would you choose to be immortal?