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COMPARISON BETWEEN SS-41 AND SS-400 ( JIS G-3101 )

1. HISTORY SS 41 AND SS 400 ARE THE FORM OF PRODUCTS ROLLED STEEL FOR GENERAL STRUCTURE BASE ON JIS G-3101. SS 41 WAS PRODUCED UNTIL END OF DECEMBER 1990 AND AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 1991 THE PRODUCT WAS CHANGED TO SS 400. COMPARISONS PRODUCT FORM

2. 2.1.

SI UNITS

SYMBOL (REFERENCE) CUSTOMARILY UNITS SS 41

PRODUCT FORM

SS 400

STEEL PLATES & SHEET, STRIPS, FLATS, BARS AND SHAPES

2.2.

CHEMICAL COMPOSITION SYMBOL C SS 41 SS 400 CHEMICAL COMPOSITION (%) Mn P 0.50 MAX 0.50 MAX

0.50 MAX 0.50 MAX

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MECHANICAL PROPERTIES YIELD STRENGHT (N/MM2) THICKNESS OF ROLLED STEEL (MM) 16 OR OVER 16 OVER 40 UNDER UP TO 40 245 MIN 235 MIN 216 MIN TENSILE STRENGHT (N/MM2)

SYMBOL

SS 41

402 TO 510

SS 400

245 MIN

235 MIN

215 MIN

400 TO 510

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SUMMARY BASE ON THE ABOVE COMPARISONS, SS 41 AND SS 400 ARE IDENTICAL

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REFERENCE JIS HANDBOOK 1990 - FERROUS MATERIAL AND METALLURGY (ATTACHMENT)

COMPARISON BETWEEN SS-41 AND SS-400 ( JIS G-3101) AND ASTM A 36


1. HISTORY SS 41 AND SS 400 ARE THE FORM OF PRODUCTS ROLLED STEEL FOR GENERAL STRUCTURE BASE ON " JAPAN INDUSTRIAL STANDARD" ( JIS) G-3101. SS 41 WAS PRODUCED UNTIL END OF DECEMBER 1990 AND AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 1991 THE PRODUCT WAS CHANGED TO SS 400. ASTM A 36 IS THE CARBON STEEL MATERIAL IN THE FORM OF ROLLED STEEL FOR STRUCTURAL QUALITY FOR USED IN RIVETED, BOLTED, OR WELDED CONSTRUCTION OF BRIDGES AND BUILDINGS, AND FOR GENERAL STRUCTURAL PURPOSES BASE ON "AMERICAN STANDARD OF TESTING MATERIAL" STANDARD

2. 2.1.

COMPARISONS PRODUCT FORM

SYMBOL SS 400

PRODUCT FORM STEEL PLATES & SHEET, STRIPS, FLATS, BARS AND SHAPES STEEL PLATES & SHEET, STRIPS, FLATS, BARS AND SHAPES

SS 41

A 36

STEEL SHAPES, PLATES AND BARS

2.2.

CHEMICAL COMPOSITION SYMBOL C SS 41 SS 400 A 36 CHEMICAL COMPOSITION (%) Mn P 0.05 MAX 0.05 MAX 0.04

0.05 MAX 0.05 MAX 0.05

2.3

MECHANICAL PROPERTIES YIELD STRENGHT (N/MM2) THICKNESS OF ROLLED STEEL (MM) 16 OR OVER 16 OVER 40 UNDER UP TO 40 245 MIN 235 MIN 216 MIN TENSILE STRENGHT (N/MM2)

SYMBOL

SS 41

402 TO 510

SS 400

245 MIN

235 MIN

215 MIN

400 TO 510

A 36

250 MIN

250 MIN

250 MIN

400 TO 550

BASE ON THE ABOVE COMPARISONS, SS 41,SS 400 AND ASTM A 36 ARE RATHER IDENTICAL . NEED FURTHER APPROVAL FROM ENGINEERING TO DECIDE WHICH MATERIAL CAN BE USED. 3. REFERENCE JIS HANDBOOK 1990 - FERROUS MATERIAL AND METALLURGY

ASTM A 36 : VOL

BS-4360-43A

COMPARISON BETWEEN BS-4360 GRADE 43A AND BS-4360 GRADE 43 B


1. 1.1. COMPARISONS PRODUCT FORM

SYMBOL BS 4360 GRADE 43 A

PRODUCT FORM WELDABLE STRUCTURAL STEEL PLATES, STRIP, WIDE FLAT, SECTIONS, HOLLOW WELDABLE STRUCTURAL STEEL PLATES, STRIP, WIDE FLAT, SECTIONS, HOLLOW

BS 4360 GRADE 43 B

1.2.

CHEMICAL COMPOSITION SYMBOL C BS 4360 GRADE 43 A BS 4360 GRADE 43 B CHEMICAL COMPOSITION (%) Mn P 1.60 MAX 1.50 MAX 0.05 MAX 0.05 MAX

0.22 MAX 0.20 MAX

0.05 MAX 0.05 MAX

1.3

MECHANICAL PROPERTIES YIELD STRENGHT (N/MM2) THICKNESS OF ROLLED STEEL 16 OR OVER 16 OVER 40 UNDER UP TO 40 275 MIN 265 MIN 255 MIN TENSILE STRENGHT (N/MM2)

SYMBOL

BS 4360 GRADE 43 A

430 TO 580

BS 4360 GRADE 43 B

275 MIN

265 MIN

255 MIN

430 TO 580

NOTE : a. 1 N/MM2 = 1 Mpa

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REFERENCE BRITISH STANDARD : BS 4360 ; 1986 EDITION

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BS-4360-43A

E 43A

TES, STRIP,

TES, STRIP,

Si 0.05 MAX 0.05 MAX

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A36 &A283C

COMPARISON BETWEEN ASTM A 36 AND ASTM A 283 GRADE C 1. MATERIAL SCOPE (5.1) ASTM A 283 Gr C consist of four grade of material (A,B,C, & D) of Carbon Steel Plate of Structural Quality for General Application ASTM A 36 covers Carbon Steel plate, shape, and bar of Structural Quality for use in riveted, bolted or welded construction of bridges and building and for General Structural purpose From material scope, both ASTM A 36 and ASTM A 283 are the Carbon Steel of Structural Quality for General Application 2. CHEMICAL COMPOSITION Material C A 36 A283 Gr C 0.25 0.24 (Thickness up to 19 mm)

Chemical Composition (%) Mn P 0.9 0.04 0.04

S 0.05 0.04

Si 0.4 0.4

Cu 0.2 0.2

The chemical composition between ASTM A36 and ASTM A 283 Gr C differ only on Mn content, The effect of Mn and other element to the weldability can be known by Carbon Equivalen (CE) calculation The formula CE = C + Si/24 + Mn/6 + Ni/40 + Cr/5 + Mo/4 + V/4 where the element in % weigth ASTM A 36 CE = 0.25 + 0.4 / 24 = 0.266 %
(5.2)

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A36 &A283C

ASTM A 283 Gr C CE = 0.24 + 0.4/24 + 0.9/6 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 0.406 % It seem that CE of A 283 Gr C is higher than ASTM A 36. Base on this A 283 Gr C is litte bit difficult to weld compare to A 36. Refering to ASME IX the weldability of material is classified in to P-Number. Both A 283 Gr C and A 36 is group in to the same P number 1. It mean that once we make the WPS/PQR with A-36, it also valid for A 283 Gr C.(5.3) 3. MECHANICAL PROPERTIES Material Yield Strength ksi(Mpa) 36(250) Tensile Strength ksi(Mpa) 58-80 (400-550) 55-75 (380-515) Elongation Elongation 8 inch 2 inch

A 36

20

23

A 283 Gr C

30(205)

22

25

The mechanical propertiies between A 36 and A 283 Gr C are almost the same which mean the mechanical prop range are not big different. 4. CONCLUSION Base on the above explanation, it can consider that A 36 can be used to alternative substitution of A 283 Gr C.

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A36 &A283C

In order to decide A 36 as substitution of A 283 Gr C further Engineering approval is required.

5. REFERENCE 5.1. ASTM A 36 & ASTM A 283 Gr C Vol. 01.04, Edition. 1998 5.2. Introduction to the Physical Metallurgy of Welding, Kenneth Easterling, Butterworth Heinemann, 1992 5.3. ASME IX Code : Welding and Brazing Qualification, Edition 1998

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COMPARISON BETWEEN ASTM A 283 GRADE C AND JIS G-3101 SS41 1. MATERIAL SCOPE (5.1) ASTM A 283 Gr C consist of four grade of material (A,B,C, & D) of Carbon Steel Plate of Structural Quality for General Application JIS G3101 SS 41 is the material in the form of rolled steel for General Structure From material scope, both ASTM A 283 Grade C and JIS G3101 SS 41 are the Carbon Steel of Structural Quality for General Application

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CHEMICAL COMPOSITION Material C A283 Gr C SS 41 -

(Thickness up to 19 mm)

Chemical Composition (%) Mn P S 0.04 0.04

Si 0.4 -

Cu 0.2 -

0.05 max 0.05 max

The chemical composition between ASTM A 283 Gr C and JIS G3101 SS 41 differ only on Si & Cu content, P and S of ASTM A 283 Grade C is still in the range of JIS G3101 SS 41

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MECHANICAL PROPERTIES Material Yield Tensile Strength Strength ksi(Mpa) ksi(Mpa) 30(205) 55-75 (380-515) 58-74 (400-510)

A 283 Gr C SS 41

35.5(245)

The mechanical propertiies between ASTM A 283 Gr C and JIS G3101 SS 41 are almost the same which mean the mechanical properties range are not big different. 4. CONCLUSION Base on the above explanation, it can consider that JIS G3101 SS41 can be used to alternative substitution of A 283 Gr. C. In order to decide JIS G3101 SS 41 as substitution of A 283 Gr C further Engineering approval is required 5. REFERENCE 5.1. ASTM A 283 Gr C Vol. 01.04, Edition. 1998 5.2. JIS G3101 SS 41, JIS Handbook, Ferrous Material and Metallurgy II, Edition 1990

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