January 2011

Volume 35, Issue 6

American Society of Plumbing Engineers
A Non-Profit Corporation Chapters Are Not Authorized To Speak For The
Society. St. Louis Chapter www.aspe-stl.com

HAPPY NEW YEAR ! ! !

I hope everyone had the most joyous holiday season and I want to wish you
all a prosperous new year ! ! !
Thanks to everyone that attended last months meeting, we had a great
turnout, again. It was a great presentation on the Illinois Plumbing Code.
In January we will reach another milestone as we celebrate our 35th
anniversary as a chapter. Since some of our past Presidents and members spend
winter in the warmer parts of the country, we plan to do our celebration in the spring
so that they can attend. Look for that around April or May.
ASPEs 2011 Technical Symposium will take place in Orlando, FL from
October 27th thru October 30th. ASPE is currently taking submissions from individuals
who are interested in presenting technical sessions. If you are looking to share your
knowledge and design experience with others in the plumbing industry who are eager
to learn, then please contact ASPE to be considered. Send in your contact information
(including your mailing address, email address and phone number), a brief
professional biography about the person who would give the presentation and a
description of the presentation topic which would be covered and what would be
contained in the presentation. Keep in mind these presentations need to remain non-
proprietary in nature as the Symposium Education Sessions are about learningnot
selling. Each session will be a minimum of 1.5 or 3 hours in length (with breaks) so
make sure the presentations are such that they cover a topic in detail. If you have any
questions, please contact Cliff Reis at the ASPE office by phone (847) 296-0002 or via
email at: creis@aspe.org.
Also coming up later this spring are our chapter elections. Anyone interested
in seeking a position on the ASPE StL Board, please contact Bill McKanna at: (314)
692-1573; or: bmckanna@murphy-stl.com.
Our next chapter meeting will be Tuesday, January 4th, at the Engineers
Club. Please come out and join us. Hope to see you all then.
Until next time, please remember to RSVP to Mike Todd, and bring a friend
along to the meeting!

Presidents Report
By Randy A. Kleinheider, CPD, LEED

AP
President
RANDY A. KLEINHEIDER, CPD,
LEED AP
c/o Henneman Engineering
One City Place Drive, Suite 282
St. Louis, MO 63141
Office (314) 432-2113
Fax (314) 432-2176
E-mail:
rkleinheider@henneman.com

Vice President Technical
DENNIS CALLAHAN
c/o Murphy Company
1233 North Price Rd.
St. Louis, MO 63132-2303
Office (314) 692-1572
Fax (314) 692-1584
dcallaham@murphy-stl.com

Vice President Legislative
ERIC P. ROGERS, PE
c/o McClure Engineering
4545 Oleatha Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63116
Office (314) 645-6232
Fax (314) 645-4128

Vice President Membership
MIKE TODD
c/o Behrmann Company
4173 Hoffmeister Avenue
St Louis, MO 63125
Office (314) 401-5454
Fax (314) 638-5609
E-mail: miket@behrco.com

Treasurer
KEVIN PATE
c/o Gateway Representatives
572 Leffingwell Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63122
Office (314) 835-1818
Fax (314) 835-1888
E-mail: kpate@gatewayreps.net

Administrative Secretary
DON SULLIVAN
c/o J.W. Sullivan Company
628 Waterford View Court
Ballwin, MO 63021
Office (636) 386-6800
Fax: (636) 386-6801
E-mail: sully0317@earthlink.net

Corresponding Secretary
CRAIG SANDS
c/o Behrmann Company
4173 Hoffmeister Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63125-2296
Office (314) 631-4400
Fax (314) 638-5609
E-mail: craigs@behrco.com

Newsletter Editor
MIKE GIANINO
c/o Wholesale Plumbing Supply
2080 Exchange Drive
St. Charles Mo. 63303
636-916-4430
Fax 636-255-9700
E-mail mgianino@wpsco.com


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VP Technical Report
R. Dennis Callahan

January
Member Since

John Potvin 1989
Drew Heitz 2010
Mike Costello 1998
Jeff Butcher 2008
Don Behrmann, P.E. 2000
Dan Beetz 1998
Charles Batson, P.E. 2008
Dwaine Bagby 2008

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We had 42 people attend our December meeting, which was another great
turnout. I did have a few phone calls asking where the meeting was going to
be held, because we changed the location of the November meeting twice,
with the last change being the day before our meeting. Please remember, that
our meetings will normally be held at the Engineers Club and if we have to
change the location like we did in November, the Board will contact its
members with the information. Our speaker was Scott Stanley, Plumbing
Inspector for the Illinois Department of Public Health.
The current code for the State of Illinois is the 2004 Illinois Plumbing Code.
You can go on-line at www.idph.state.il.us, and choose from the following
menu: Laws and Rules, Current laws and Rules, Environmental Occupations
and Programs, Plumbing, and Illinois License Law.
Other Items of interest are: Illinois Accessibility Code (Doug Gamble Illinois
Accessibility Specialist (217)-782-8530, State of Illinois Capital Development
Board and the Illinois Attorney General Office @ cdb.state.il.us, American
Society of Sanitary Engineering (ASSE) @ www.asse-plumbing.org.
Cleanout Equivalent: Fixture Trap A fixture trap, readily removable without
disturbing concealed plumbing or requiring fixture removal, is acceptable as a
cleanout equivalent, if there is no more than one (1) 90 degree bend on the
line to be rodded. A water closet is not considered a cleanout equivalent.
Fire Sprinkler Systems: Include the Fire System Waterline and backflow
preventer into the plumbing plan instead of in the Site Plan.
Fire Safety Systems The installation of any fire safety system involving the
potable water supply system shall be protected against backflow as follows:
1. A double detector check valve or double check valve backflow preventer
assembly shall be installed at the fire safety systems point of connection to
the potable water supply when a fire safety system has no chemical
additives or non-potable connection, but has one or more fire department
hose connections (for boosting pressure and flow to the fire safety system)
that are served only by firefighting apparatus connected to a public water
supply or a fire department that does no use chemical additives or rely upon
any non-potable water supply.


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Nothing New to report this month
VP Legislative Report
Eric P. Rogers

HEINKEL SALES INC.
12969 Maurer Industrial Drive
Phone: 314-842-0057 Fax: 314-842-007
REPRESENTING
PVI Industries Chicago Faucets Symmons
Acorn Engineering Chronomite T-Drill Rectorseal
Metacaulk Fire Stop IPEX Elmdor Grundfos Just
Prier Murdock Riverside Hydronics Acorn Aqua
Acorn Safety Equipment




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As we move into early January, with snow on the ground and bitter
cold winds whipping, I would like to wish everyone a joyous and
prosperous New Year!
Our membership has slipped this past year, down to 105. I would
like to welcome our newest member Milt Loft. Please welcome Milt
to the Chapter at the next meeting.
Please continue to contact me with questions about your
membership or if you have ideas on how we could improve the
meetings or health of the Chapter.

My new contact information is:

Mike Todd

Behrmann Company

314-631-4400 (O)

314-401-5454 (C)

miket@behrco.com

VP Membership
By Mike Todd

Milton Canizares
Jeff Keifer
Milt Loft
John Muschong
Dan Donahue
Bob Krull
Mark Miller

Jan 4th, 2011
Speaker will be Mike Juhnke of Lochinvar

Sponsors!
Be Sure To Send Your
NEW Business Card To:
jmccarty@aecrepair.com
or
mgianino@wpsco.com




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ASPE General Meeting Dates for 2010-2011
Jan 4th, 2011
Speaker will be Mike Juhnke from Lochinvar.

Lunch Menu for Jan 4th 2011
Stuffed Hunters Chicken
Roasted Potatoes
Salad
Carrot Cake


Feb 1st, 2011
Joe Scott of Cannon Design
March 1st, 2011
Mike Doychak of PVI
April 5th, 2011
A speaker from Grundfos
May 3rd, 2011
Elbert McKinlay from Watts
June 7th, 2011
Golf outing, Warrenton Golf Course

Lunch meeting schedule
11:45 AM Social - 11:55 introductions- Tech Session During Lunch - Meeting
Adjourned at 1:00PM

NOTICE:
Affirmative response or self registration prior to meeting is considered a
positive reservation for food and attendance. Should a NO SHOW occur, you
will be billed for the dinner.

Location
Engineers Club of St Louis
4359 Lindell Boulevard
St Louis Mo 63108
314-533-9333

December meeting Drawing Winners

Jackpot Drawing for $10.00
JJ Nagel was present to win.

50/50 Drawing
Patrick Moynihan $13.00
Rick Bradbury $10.00
Kevin Pate $9.00

Attendance Prizes: $20 Best Buy Gift Cards
Mike Gianino
Patrick Moynihan
Craig Canatsey



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2.
fixed air gap with a break tank or other storage vessel or a reduced pressure
principle backflow preventer assembly (RPZ) shall be installed at the fire safety
systems point of connection to the potable water supply when: The fire safety
system contains additives such as antifreeze, fire retardant or other chemicals. (The
RPZ may be located at the point of connection to that section of the system
containing such additives when the systems connection to the water supply is
protected by a double detector check valve backflow preventer assembly); or Non-
Potable water flows into the fire safety system by gravity: or there is a permanent
or emergency connection whereby water can be pumped into the fire safety system
from any other non-potable source; or Fire department connections are available
that could permit water to be pumped into the fire safety system from a non-
potable source capable of serving the fire safety system. (A non-potable source of
water shall be considered capable of serving the fire safety system under the
following conditions; It must be capable of year-round use, maintained with at least
50,000 gallons of usable water, not subject to freezing, accessible to firefighting
pumper equipment, and located within 1,700 feet of the facility.)
Gasoline, oil and Flammable Liquids: Commercial vehicle repair garages, gasoline
stations with grease racks or pits, and oil change facilities shall be provided with floor



drains or trench drains connected to a gas and oil interceptor.
Provide Floor or trench drains connected to a holding tank in lieu
of a gas and oil interceptor when these drains are connected to a
private sewage disposal system. Gas and Oil Interceptors shall
be of cast iron, steel, polyethylene, polymer concrete or equally
durable fiberglass materials suitable for gas and oil. Fiberglass
interceptors shall not be used for receiving any substance other
than gas and oil. Poured concrete interceptors are prohibited.
Poured concrete trench drains are prohibited for gas and oil
discharges.
Other comments brought up during Questions portion of
presentation:
Trench drains need to be polymer concrete. They are thinking of
allowing dishwashers to discharge into the grease trap. Presently,
any 3 pot sink must discharge into the grease trap. Metering
faucets for public restrooms is no longer a requirement. On
remodeling projects, nothing over 2 feet of dead-leg will be
allowed on waste, vent and water lines. The Acorn Vacuum
System has been approved for clear waste (usually for grocery
stores).

List of Illinois Plumbing Inspectors:
Matt Popov (618)-971-2232
Bob Shaeffer (217)-836-1762
Scot Stanley (618)-889-8681
In January we will have Mike Juhnke with Lochinvar speaking on
efficiency standards that all manufacturers must test by and
adhere to and what changes are coming to the minimum
efficiencies. In February we will have our own Joe Scott from
Cannon Design speaking on the musings of a plumbing Designer
and for March we will have Mike Doychak with PVI.
I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and
please remember to bring a potential member with you to our
January 4
th
meeting and get your reservations in to Mike Todd.



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Bill McKanna Murphy Company
Bob Hastings IPEG
Bob Thomason Albert Arno
Brett Rossomanno
Carl Eichstaedt Jr CSE Consulting
Craig Canatsey Specialty Sales
Craig Sands Behrmann Company
Dave Bujnak Lochinvar
Dennis Callahan Murphy Company
Dickson Dunsworth Mission Sales
Don Behrmann Behrmann Company
Don Sullivan J.W. Sullivan
Dwaine Bagby BRIC Partnership
Eric Rogers McClure Engineering
George Paubel Kyhl Plumbing
Glenn Maijer EDM
Greg Blattel Murphy Company
J.J. Nagel Mead O'Brien
Joe Milligan
Joe Povis
John Fischer St Louis County
John Muschong 314-607-9078
Keith Mann Heideman Associates
Kelly Sulwer Industrial Process Equipment
Kevin Pate Gateway Representatives
Marty McNee Summit Sales
Matt Power Nibco
Michael Curtwright Murphy Company
Mike Costello American Sales
Mike Gianino Wholesale Plumbing Supply
Mike Todd Midwest Machine
Milt Loft Mission Sales
Patrick Moynihan Murphy Company
Paul Hellickson McClure Engineering
Randy Kleinheider Henneman Engineering
Ray Swafford Atlas
Rick Bradbury Network Piping
Ron Jansen Mead O'Brien
Tim Biscan Atlas Supply
Vince Amador Woolpert
Yan Shifrin BRIC Partnership
Steve Heitert Armstrong International

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING YOUR
ORGANIZATION
THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE ATTENDED LAST MONTH'S
LUNCH MEETING



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