Pathologist as "prognosticator" - 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma - 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL pathologist as "communicator": - A 55 year old with CLL The pathologist as A "determiner" of therapy: - A 60 year old. Pathologist's role beyond diagnosis: "an expert microscopist An adroit use of ancillary tests (IHC, ISH)
Pathologist as "prognosticator" - 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma - 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL pathologist as "communicator": - A 55 year old with CLL The pathologist as A "determiner" of therapy: - A 60 year old. Pathologist's role beyond diagnosis: "an expert microscopist An adroit use of ancillary tests (IHC, ISH)
Pathologist as "prognosticator" - 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma - 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL pathologist as "communicator": - A 55 year old with CLL The pathologist as A "determiner" of therapy: - A 60 year old. Pathologist's role beyond diagnosis: "an expert microscopist An adroit use of ancillary tests (IHC, ISH)
Spanish Society of Pathology Meeting Madrid, Spain 8 February 2013 Thomas Grogan, M.D Professor Emeritus, University of Arizona Founder, Ventana Medical Systems 1 2 Objective Explain why the pathologist is so important in patient care. Method Medical case examples. 3 4 The Pathologist as Diagnostician Medical Cases:
Cases over diagnosed as Malignant Lymphoma (ML) 9 year old said to have tonsilar ML 54 year old said to have Hodgkin L
Cases under diagnosed as ML 10 year old said to have meningitis
5 The Pathologists Role Beyond Diagnosis The pathologist as prognosticator: - 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma - 60 year old with SQ ML
The pathologist as determiner of therapy: A 55 year old with CLL
The pathologist as communicator: A 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL
Medical Cases 6 Requirements for the Proper Diagnosis of Lymphoma Correct handling of tissue A well-done H&E An expert microscopist An adroit use of ancillary tests (IHC, ISH) A complete knowledge of the WHO classification An ability to integrate all findings Sound judgment Strong communication skills
7 Patient #1 19 year old male with shortness of breath and impending airway obstruction.
8 Patient #1 Treatment: October 2006 Living-donor lung transplant Immunosuppression: Cyclosporin A
Clinical course: January 2007 Shortness of breath Impending airway obstruction Tonsillar masses
Impression: Post-transplant cancer (Lymphoma)
9 Post-Transplant Tonsilar Mass H&E 4X 60X 10 Post-Transplant Tonsilar Mass CD20 IHC 4X 60X CD3 IHC 11 Post-Transplant Tonsilar Mass Ki-67 IHC 4X 60X 12 Post-Transplant Tonsilar Mass Kappa ISH 4X 4X Lambda ISH 13 Post-Transplant Tonsilar Mass EBER ISH 4X 60X 14 Post-Transplant Tonsilar Mass 4X H&E CD20 IHC Ki-67 IHC EBER ISH Kappa ISH Lambda ISH 15 The Pathologist as Diagnostician Medical Cases:
Cases over diagnosed as Malignant Lymphoma (ML) 9 year old said to have tonsilar ML 54 year old said to have Hodgkin L
Cases under diagnosed as ML 10 year old said to have meningitis
16 Patient #2: 54-year-old patient with abdominal pain and recurrent infections 17 Bone Marrow Biopsy H&E suggests Hodgkin Lymphoma 18 CD15 Lambda Kappa Key Tissue Staining Results IHC H&E ISH 19 The Pathologist as Diagnostician Medical Cases:
Cases over diagnosed as Malignant Lymphoma (ML) 9 year old said to have tonsilar ML 54 year old said to have Hodgkin L
Cases under diagnosed as ML 10 year old said to have meningitis
20 CNS Lesion in a 16 Year Old Boy H&E Staining 21 CD 45 CNS Lesion in a 16 Year Old Boy CD 20 CD 3 22 H&E CNS Lesion in a 16 Year Old Boy CD 30 23 Primary CNS Anaplastic Large Cell Lymphoma ALK-1 CD 30 H&E CD 45 24 The Pathologists Role Beyond Diagnosis The pathologist as prognosticator: 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma 60 year old with SQ ML
The pathologist as determiner of therapy: A 55 year old with CLL
The pathologist as communicator: A 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL
Medical Cases 25 26 27 28 29 The Pathologists Role Beyond Diagnosis The pathologist as prognosticator: 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma 60 year old with SQ ML
The pathologist as determiner of therapy: A 55 year old with CLL
The pathologist as communicator: A 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL
Medical Cases 30 31 32 32 33 Blood 79:2432-2437, 1992
46 PTL: 11 (24%) NCAM Positive
Sites of Involvement: CNS (36%) Parathyroids Muscle (18%) Pituitary Nasopharynx Adrenals GI (27%)
Conclusion: NCAM plays a role in the behavior and localization of lymphomas
Neurodeterminant in Neonatal Meningitis ( 2,8 Helix)
Recognition Molecule In Fish Egg Fertilization
In Man, Mediates Neurite Fasciculation, Neuronal Migration and Neural Muscle Interaction
In Tumors May Enhance Metastasis 38 39 40 Sanctuary Site Invasion via CAM (NCAM, CD56) CNS Invasion Via Polysialated CD56 On T-Cell Lymphomas
Same Neurodeterminant As In Meningitis
Lymphoma Site Specificity Via CAM
Homophillic Binding: BBB, NMJ
CNS Scanning and Prophylaxsis
Serologic Correlate
41 The Pathologists Role Beyond Diagnosis The pathologist as prognosticator: 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma 60 year old with SQ ML
The pathologist as determiner of therapy: A 55 year old with CLL
The pathologist as communicator: A 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL
Medical Cases 42 Bone Marrow Involvement with CLL 43 Bone Marrow Involvement with CLL TP53 17P - 44 Aberration Occurrence Prognosis OS Treatments 13q ~30% Best 15-17 yrs. Monitor Trisomy 12 ~20% Intermediate 9-10 yrs. CD20 targeted agents 11q ~15% Poor 3-6 yrs. Rituximab, with alkylating agents 17p ~7% Very Poor 1-2 yrs. Novel agents/+/or allogeneic stem cell transplant Primary Genomic Aberrations Associated with CLL 45 The Pathologists Role Beyond Diagnosis The pathologist as prognosticator: 58 year old said to have follicular lymphoma 60 year old with SQ ML
The pathologist as determiner of therapy: A 55 year old with CLL
The pathologist as communicator: A 60 year old with retroperitoneal DLBCL
Medical Cases 46 Medical Needs The Patient The Lab/The MD What do I have? Diagnosis What caused it? Etiology: Infections/Genetic What explains my symptoms? Pathogenesis What are my prospects? Prognosis Has it spread? Metastasis What is my treatment? Therapeutic Targets Will I be cured? Response Prediction Will I be hurt? Toxicity Prediction How will I be followed? Monitoring Will it return? Relapse Will others in my family get it? Predisposition Screening How will you communicate the results? Medical Report 47 60 year old female (G2 P2) with persistent nausea and vomiting x 2 days.
Prior history: Allergy to Iodine Recurrent urinary tract infections x 3 Migraine headaches treated with cafergot
Clinical Impression: Post prandial cholecystitis
PATIENT HISTORY 48 * CT SCAN: PRE TREATMENT 49 CT GUIDED BIOPSY 50 * H & E: DIFFUSE LARGE CELL LYMPHOMA (DLCL) 51 CD20 TARGET FOR CD20 RITUXIMAB (R) 52 Antibody scheme to identify B-Cell Malignant Lymphoma 16 Lymphoma Types A n t i b o d i e s
53 Grogan, Candace J Grogan, Candace J 04360434 04360434 4/3/1945 4/3/1945 F F Page: 26 of 82 Page: 26 of 82 Acq no: 3 Acq no: 3 KVp: 120 KVp: 120 mA: 200 mA: 200 Tilt: 0.0 Tilt: 0.0 RD: 417.96 RD: 417.96 University Med Center University Med Center CT-ABD/PEL W/O CT-ABD/PEL W/O 10/2/2005 05:47:37 10/2/2005 05:47:37 2726123 2726123 LOC: 201.50 LOC: 201.50 THK: 5.0 THK: 5.0 FFS FFS IM: 26 SE: 3 IM: 26 SE: 3 W: 426 W: 426 C: 55 C: 55 Z: 0.67 Z: 0.67 R R L L A A P P cm cm CT POST TREATMENT 54 INSERT PHOTO HERE 55 Interpreter of biomarkers in microanatomic context
Integrator of information - Multiparameter data in context
Great Communicator - Deliverer of the integrated results - Provider of the patient-centric report
59 60 Requirements for the Proper Diagnosis of Lymphoma Correct handling of tissue A well-done H&E An expert microscopist An adroit use of ancillary tests (IHC, ISH) A complete knowledge of the WHO classification An ability to integrate all findings Sound judgment Strong communication skills
61 The Importance of Context Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosnt mttaer in what oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.
The rset can be a total mses and you can still raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. 62 The Ideal Future
Multiparameter, multiplex results with morphology, phenotype, and genotype with full definition of all therapeutic targets communicated in a same day patient report integrating pathology, radiology, surgery and oncology findings.
Results communicated by a multitasking pathologist who serves as diagnostician, lab director and information integrator. 63 We I nnovate Healthcare