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Components&Cladding
WindLoad Provisions
JohnHutton,P.E.,S.E.
MichaelStenstrom,P.E.,S.E.
ASCE710Wind
WebinarSeries
1. BasicsofWindLoadProvisions&MWFRSs
2. Components&CladdingWindLoadProvisions
Roofs&Walls
3. WindLoadsforSigns,OtherStructures,RoofTop
Structures,Equipment&OtherSpecialConditions
4. WindTunnelApplicationsforBuildings
5. WindLoadsonNonStandardBuildings
ChangesinASCE710
Completereorganizationofwindprovisions
BasicWindSpeedBasedonStrengthDesign
1.0WforLRFDloadcombinations
0.6WforASDloadcombinations
SeparateMapsforRiskCategories No
ImportanceFactors
SurfaceRoughnessDagainappliesalong
hurricanecoastline
Newsimplifiedmethodsforh<160ft
Outline C&CLoads
A.ImportantLimitations&Definitions
B.BuildingTypesandtheOrganizationof
Chapter30
C.ExampleProblems
Part1 LowRiseBuildings
Part2 LowRiseBuildings(Simplified)
Part3 Buildingswithh>60ft
Part4 Buildingswithh<=160ft(Simplified) New
ASCE7 10
Components&Cladding
WindLoads
ImportantLimitationsand
Definitions
ImportantLimitations
TousetheC&CdesignproceduresofASCE
710,thebuildingmustmeetthefollowing
conditions
Thebuildingmustbearegularshaped
building,abuildinghavingnounusual
geometricalirregularityinspatialform
Thebuildingmustnotbesubjectto
acrosswindloading,vortexshedding,
galloping,orflutter
ImportantLimitations
Thesitemustnotbesubjectto
channelingeffectsorbuffetinginthe
wakeofupwindobstructions
Thewindloadsforbuildingsfailingto
meettheselimitationsmustbe
determinedusingwindtunnel
proceduresorusingrecognizedliterature
documentingsuchwindloadeffects.
ImportantDefinitions
WhatareComponentsandCladding?
Section26.2Definitions:
C&C:Elementsofthebuildingenvelopethat
donotqualifyaspartoftheMWFRS.
MWFRS:Anassemblageofstructural
elementsassignedtoprovidesupportand
stabilitytotheoverallstructure,generally
receiveswindloadingfrommorethanone
surface.
ImportantDefinitions
Commentary:ComponentsandCladding:
Claddingreceiveswindloadsdirectly.
Componentsreceivewindloadsdirectlyor
fromcladdingandtransfertheloadtothe
MWFRS.Examplesofcomponentsinclude
fasteners,purlins,girts,studs,roofdecking,
androoftrusses.Componentscanbepartof
theMWFRSwhentheyactasshearwallsor
roofdiaphragms,buttheymayalsobeloaded
asindividualcomponents.
ImportantDefinitions
Certaincomponentsmayreceivemorethan
onetypeofwindloading,forexample,long
spanrooftrussesshouldbedesignedforloads
associatedwithMWFRSs(orC&Cbasedon
overalltributaryarea),andindividual
membersoftrussesshouldalsobedesigned
forC&Cloads(basedonmembereffective
areas).Examplesofcladdingincludewall
coverings,curtainwalls,roofcoverings,
exteriorwindows(fixedandoperable)and
doors,andoverheaddoors.
ImportantDefinitions
EffectiveWindArea theareausedto
determineGCp
C&CElements theeffectivewindareais
thespanlengthoftheelementtimesthe
spacingtothenextelement.Ifthe
spacingislessthanspanlength/3one
canusethespanlength/3whichwill
generatealargereffectivearea.
ImportantDefinitions
TributaryArea
ForC&Celementswithtributaryareaof
700squarefeetorless,usethe
provisionsofChapter30
ForC&Celementswithtributaryarea
greaterthan700squarefeet,the
provisionsforMWFRSmaybeused
ImportantDefinitions
CladdingFasteners Forcladding
fasteners,theeffectivewindareashallnot
begreaterthantheareathatistributaryto
anindividualfastener.
ImportantDefinitions
Therearetwoprimaryproceduresusedfor
determiningwindloadsonbuildings
DirectionalProcedureandEnvelope
Procedure
DirectionalProcedure Thepressure
coefficientsuseinthisprocedureare
basedonpastwindtunneltestingof
prototypicalbuildingmodelsforthe
correspondingdirectionofwind
ImportantDefinitions
EnvelopeProcedure Thepressure
coefficientsusedinthisprocedureare
basedonpastwindtunneltestingof
prototypicalbuildingmodelssuccessively
rotatedthrough360degreesunderthe
windloading.Thekeystructuralactions
(uplift,shear,overturning)aremonitored
andthemaximumeffectsofallwind
directionsareusedtocreateanenvelope
ofpseudopressurecases.
GeneralRequirements
MinimumDesignWindPressures the
designwindpressureforC&Cshallnotbe
lessthananetpressure(includinginternal
pressures)of16psfactingineither
directionnormaltothesurface
(i.e.10psfASD)
WindLoadParameters
WindLoadParameters specifiedin
Chapter26,GeneralRequirements
V=basicwindspeedfromoneofthethreeRisk
Categorywindspeedmaps,Fig26.51A,BorC,
threesecondgustspeedat33feetExposure
CategoryC
Kd=winddirectionalityfactorfromTable26.6
WindLoadParameters
ExposureCategory CategoryB,C,orD
selectedfrom26.7.3basedonsurface
roughnessfortheexposureresultinginthe
highestwindloadsforanydirectiononthesite
(ExposureDnowapplicabletohurricaneprone
coastalareas)
Kzt=topographicfactordefinedinsection26.8
toaccountforwindspeedupeffectoverhills,
ridges,andescarpments
G=Gusteffectfactorasdeterminedbysection
26.9.Forthetypicalrigidbuildingcanbetaken
as0.85
WindLoadParameters
EnclosureClassification usedindetermining
internalpressurecoefficient eitherenclosed,
partiallyenclosed,oropen
GCpi =internalpressurecoefficientincluding
gustfactorasdeterminedusingTable26.111
VelocityPressure
qz =0.00256Kz Kzt Kd V2
qz =velocitypressureevaluatedatanyheightz
qh =velocitypressureevaluatedatthemeanroofheight,
h
Kz =velocitypressureexposurecoefficientdefinedin
Section30.3.1andgiveninTable30.31evaluatedatany
heightz(onlyusedforPart3,h>60windwardpressures
andpositiveinternalpressuresforpartiallyenclosed
buildings)
Kh =velocitypressureexposurecoefficientevaluatedat
themeanroofheight,h(usedforlowrise,roof,leeward
andsimplifiedpressures,andcanbeusedforallcases)
BuildingTypes
BuildingTypes
LowRiseBuildings,h< 60
Part1 Analytical
ASEC705:Method2LowRise
Calculated
EnvelopeProcedure
EnclosedorPartiallyEnclosed
LowestPressures
Part2 Simplified
ASEC705:Method1LowRise
Tabulated
BasedonPart1
EnclosedBuildingsOnly
Flat,SingleGableorHipRoofsOnly
BuildingTypes
Buildings>60
Part3 Analytical
ASCE705:Method2AllHeights
>60
Calculated
DirectionalProcedure
EnclosedorPartiallyEnclosed
Part4 Simplified
NEW:BasedonPart3
< 160
Tabulated
EnclosedBuildingsOnly
Flat,Monoslope,Gable,Mansardor
HipRoofs&ParapetsOnly
BuildingTypes
SpecialTypes
Part5 OpenBuildings
AllHeights
Calculated
DirectionalProcedure
Monoslope,PitchedorTroughed
Roofs
Part6 Appurtenances,etc
Calculated
DirectionalProcedure
Parapets&RoofOverhangs(All
Heights)
RooftopStructures&Equipment(h
< 60)
BuildingTypes
Format
BuildingType
Description
Conditions
DesignWindPressure
Notes
StepbystepOutline
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Componentand
Cladding
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Part1:LowRiseBuildingsComponentandCladding
PerTable30.41
StepstodetermineC&CWindLoads
Forthisexercisewewillassumethefollowing:
2StoryOfficeBuilding
WoodFramed,HipRoof
30FeetMeanRoofHeight
SuburbanLocation,FlatGround
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
30 ft
100 ft
34 ft
Mean roof height 30 ft
26 ft
15 ft
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Wallstudsare15feettalland16inchesoncenter(20squarefeettributary)
use5feetwidex15feettall=75sqftforEffectiveAreaforGCp
Refertopage243DefinitionofEffectiveArea Tributarywidthneednotbe
lessthan1/3spanlength
Rooftrussesspan30feet,2feetoncenter(60squarefeettributaryarea)
use10feetwidex30feet=300sqfeetforEffectiveAreaforGCp
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Step1:DetermineRiskCategory
OfficeBuildingCategoryII
(Table1.51Chapter1,page2)
Step2:DetermineBasicWindSpeed
(Figure26.51Apage247a)
WindSpeed=115mph
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Step3:DetermineWindLoadParameters
Kd=0.85(Table26.6page250)
ExposureCategory=B(suburbanpage251)
KztTopoCategory=1(flatper26.8.2lastparagraph)
EnclosureClass=Enclosed(officebuilding)
GCpi=+ 0.18(Table26.111page258)
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Step4:DetermineVelocityPressureExposure
Kh
Kh=0.70pertable30.31page317
Step5:DetermineVelocityPressureqh
qh=0.00256KzKztKd(V)2 perequation30.31page316
qh=0.00256(0.70)(1)(.85)(115)2
qh=20.1psf
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Step6:DetermineExternalPressure
CoefficientGCp
Walls
Gcp
Perfigure30.41page335
Zone4
Zone5
+0.85+0.85
0.95 1.1
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Step7:CalculateWindpressuresperEQ30.41
p=qh((GCp) (GCpi))
Walls
p=20.1((+0.85) ( 0.18))=+13.4psf,+20.7psf zone4&5
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
30ft
100ft
a=10%ofleastdimension
30x0.10=3ftOr.4h0.4x30=12ft
Or4%oflargesthorizontaldimension
0.04x100=4ftcontrolsforadimension
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
HipRoofPerfigure30.42Bpage337
Zone1Zone2Zone3
+0.3+0.3+0.3
0.81.21.2*
*Note:perfootnote7,Zone3=Zone2
forroofslopeslessthan25o
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Overhangs Perfigure30.42B(Assume10sf)
Zone2Zone3
RoofTrussTail
2.22.5
Usetributaryareaofaffectedpiece
RoofDeck
2.2
2.2
for10sf
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Step7:CalculateWindpressuresperEQ30.41(Continued)
HipRoof RoofTrusses
Zone1,2&3
p=20.1((+0.3) (0.18))=+4.4psf,+9.7psf
Zone1
Zone2 needtoapplyatdiscontinuitiesonly
p=20.1((1.2) (0.18))=20.5psf,27.7psf
Zone3
p=20.1((2.0) (0.18))=36.4psf,43.8psf
16psfminimumgoverns
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Step7:CalculateWindpressuresperEQ30.41(Continued)
Overhangs RoofTrussTails
Zone2
p=20.1(2.2)= 44.2psfusetribareaoftail
Zone3
p=20.1(2.5)= 50.3psf
RoofDeckatOverhangs
Zone2
p=20.1(2.2)= 44.2psf
Zone3
p=20.1(3.7)= 74.4psf
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Zone2occurswhen
windblowsfrom
right
WIND
Higherwinduplift(zone2and3)occurs
whenwindcrossesroofedge
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
Rooftrussat20on
center
CodeZoneDiagram
WIND
LoadApplicationDiagram
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
30 ft
100 ft
PositivePressure(Downward)
NegativePressure(upward)
Zone2canbeapplied
onbothsidesfor
simplifyingofload
cases
TrussLoadingDiagrams
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
ShallowSlopedRoofs(MonoslopedorGable)
Gable Roofs 0 < 70 (~ 1-3/4:12 )
And Monoslope Roofs 0 < 30 (~ 3/4:12 )
Refer to figure 30.4-5A Footnote #5
Zone 3
Zone 2
Zone Zzzzzz
Zone 1
PositivePressure(Downward)
NegativePressure(upward)
Zone2canbeapplied
onbothsidesfor
simplifyingloadcases
TrussLoadingDiagrams
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
SteppedRoofs
Figure30.43page339
Zone2
Zone3
Zone1
h1
Zone3(treataszone2forGCp)
Zone2(treataszone1forGCp)
Zone1(treataszone1forGCp)
b
Whenh110ftb=1.5h1&b<100ft
(Notebiswayoutofscaleonfigure30.43,itlookslike.5h1
insteadof1.5h1)
Forareawithinbdistanceonlowroof,refertoFigure
30.43)usewallvaluesinfigure30.41forpositivevaluesof
GCp
Part1:LowRise
Buildings
KeystoRememberforPart1:
RoofZones2&3canbeappliedimmediatelyadjacenttoroof
discontinuitiesbasedonthedirectionofthewindforce
RefertoFigure30.45Aforflatroofs.Footnote#5directsuser
backtoFigure30.42Aformonoslopeslessthan30
Donotmixpositiveandnegativewindforcesoncomponentloading
Recommendusingwallpressuresforroofslopesgreaterthan450
Part1methodmaybeusedforh<90ft.iftheheight/widthratio< 1
Thismethodgenerallyyieldsthelowestwindpressures
Part2:LowRise
Buildings,h<60ft
(Simplified)
Componentsand
Cladding
Part2:LowRise
Buildings(Simplified)
Part2:LowRiseBuildings(Simplified)
ComponentandCladding
PerTable30.51
Forthisexercisewewillassumethefollowing:
2StoryOfficeBuilding
WoodFramed,HipRoof
30FeetMeanRoofHeight
SuburbanLocation,FlatGround
RoofSlopeis250
Part2:LowRise
Buildings(Simplified)
Wallstudsare15feettalland16inchesoncenter(20squarefeettributary)
use5feetwidex15feettall=75sqftforEffectiveAreaforGCp
Refertopage243DefinitionofEffectiveArea Tributarywidthneednotbe
lessthan1/3spanlength
Rooftrussesspan30feet,2feetoncenter(60squarefeettributaryarea)
use10feetwidex30feet=300sqfeetforEffectiveAreaforGCp
Part2:LowRise
Buildings(Simplified)
Part2:Buildingswithh60ftComponentsandCladding
PerTable30.51StepstodetermineC&CWindLoads
Thefirsttwostepsareexactly thesameasinPart1:
Step1:DetermineRiskCategory
OfficeBuildingCategoryII
Step2:DetermineBasicWindSpeed
WindSpeed=115mph
Step3:DetermineWindLoadParameters(Exp.Catonly)
ExposureCategory=B
(GCPi=+/0.18&Kd=0.85alreadyincorporatedintotables)
Step4:DetermineTopographicFactors
KztTopoCategory=1(flatper26.8.2lastparagraph)
Part2:LowRise
Buildings(Simplified)
UsesamebuildingasusedinPart1
30 ft
100 ft
34 ft
Mean roof height 30 ft
26 ft
15 ft
Part2:LowRise
Buildings(Simplified)
Step5&6:Enterfigure30.51todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p.
346
pnet = Kzt pnet 30
(Eq.30.51)
=1.0,adjustmentfactorforbldg heightandexposurefromfig.30.51
pnet 30 =netdesignwindpressureforExposureB,ath =30ft.
Kzt =1.0,topographicfactorasdefinedinSection26.8evaluatedat
0.33meanroofheight,0.33h
Note:Figure30.51isonpage345,346and347Allfiguresforthismethod
arecalled30.51
Part2:LowRise
Bldgs (Simplified)
Step5&6:Enterfigure30.51
todeterminepressureonwalls
androof,p.346
Part2:LowRise
Buildings(Simplified)
Step5:EnterFigure30.51todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
p=pnet30 forh=30ft,HipRoofExposureB
Zone
19.8
27.8
44.0
22.8
25.8
+16
+16
+16
+20.8
+20.8
pfromPart1
Zone
1
19.7
27.7
43.8
22.7
25.7
+16
+16
+16
+20.7
+20.7
Part3:Buildingswith
h>60ft
Componentand
Cladding
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Part3:Buildingswithh>60ftComponentandCladding
DetermineC&CWindLoadsperTable30.61Steps
Forthisexercisewewillassumethefollowing:
6StoryOfficeBuildingwith13ftfloortofloor
GlassCurtainWallsystemwithverticalmullionsat4ftoncenter
FlatRoofframedwithbarjoistsspanning50ftat68oncenter.
78FeetMeanRoofHeight
SuburbanLocation,FlatGround
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
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Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
CurtainWallmullionsare13feettalland48inchesoncenter(52squarefeet
tributary)
Refertopage243DefinitionofEffectiveArea Tributarywidthneednotbe
lessthan1/3spanlength
use44widex13feettall=56sqftforEffectiveAreaforGCp
Roofjoistsspan50feetat68oncenter(333squarefeettributaryarea)
use168widex50feet=833sqfeetforEffectiveAreaforGCp
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step1:DetermineRiskCategory
OfficeBuildingCategoryII
(Table1.51Chapter1,page2)
Step2:DetermineBasicWindSpeed
(Figure26.51Apage247b)
WindSpeed=115mph
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step3:DetermineWindLoadParameters
Kd=0.85(Table26.6page250)
ExposureCategory=B(suburbanpage251)
KztTopoCategory=1(flatper26.8.2lastparagraph)
EnclosureClass=Enclosed(officebuilding)
GCpi=+/ 0.18(Table26.111page258)
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step4:DetermineVelocityPressureExposure
KzorKh
Kh=0.92pertable30.31page317
Kz=varieswithheightfrom0.70to0.92
pertable30.31page317
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step5:DetermineVelocityPressureqhandqz
qhisdeterminedatthemeanroofheight
qh=0.00256KhKztKd(V)2 perequation30.31page316
qh=0.00256(0.92)(1)(.85)(115)2
qh=26.5psf
qzisdeterminedattheheightoftheelementbeingconsidered
qz=0.00256KzKztKd(V)2 perequation30.31page316
qz=0.00256(Kz)(1)(.85)(115)2 =(Kz)28.8psf
qh=variesfrom20.1psfinthelower15ftto26.5psfatthetop
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step6:DetermineExternalPressure
CoefficientGCp
Perfigure30.61page348
Roof
Joists
833sqft
Walls
Mullions
56sqft
Zone1Zone2Zone3Zone4Zone5
+0.8+0.8
0.9 1.6 2.3 0.85 1.55
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step7:CalculateWallMullionWindpressuresperEQ30.61
p=q(GCp)qi(GCpi)
WindwardWallsq=qzwhichvaries frombottomtotop
p=qz(+0.8) 26.5( 0.18) zone4&5
forthefollowingselectedheights(40,60,78)
@40p=21.9(+0.8) 26.5( 0.18)=22.3psf
@60p=24.5(+0.8) 26.5( 0.18)=24.4psf
@78p=26.5(+0.8) 26.5( 0.18)=26.0psf
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step7:CalculateWallMullionWindpressuresperEQ30.61
p=q(GCp)qi(GCpi)
LeewardWallsq=qhwhichisconstant frombottomtotop
p=qh(GCp) 26.5( 0.18) zone4&5
zone4
zone5
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Step7:CalculateRoofJoistWindpressuresperEQ30.61
p=q(GCp)qi(GCpi)
Roofq=qhevaluatedatmeanroofheight
p=26.5(GCp) 26.5( 0.18)
zone1,2,&3
zone1
zone2
zone3
p=16psfminimumpositivepressureallzones
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
Part3:Buildings
withh>60ft
KeystoRememberforPart3:
UseFigure30.61forwalls&flatroofs,<10degrees
ForRoofslopes>10degrees,usePart1FiguresforGCp
UseFig30.47fordomeroofs
SeeFig27.43,footnote4,forarchedroofs
Atroofperimeter,usetheexternalpressurecoefficientsin
Fig.30.42A,BandCwithbasedonspringlineslope
forremainingroofareas,useMWFRSexternalpressure
coefficientsmultipliedby0.87.
Part4:Buildingswith
h<160ft
Componentsand
Cladding
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
AssumethesamebuildingusedinPart3:Buildings>60ft
78FeetMeanRoofHeight,flatroof
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Part4:Buildingswithh>160ftComponentsandCladding
PerTable30.71StepstodetermineC&CWindLoads
Thefirsttwostepsareexactly thesameasinPart3:
Step1:DetermineRiskCategory
OfficeBuildingCategoryII
Step2:DetermineBasicWindSpeed
WindSpeed=115mph
Step3:DetermineWindLoadParameters(Exp.Catonly)
ExposureCategory=B
(GCPi=+/0.18&Kd=0.85alreadyincorporatedintotables)
Step5:DetermineTopographicFactors
KztTopoCategory=1(flatper26.8.2lastparagraph)
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Step4:EnterTable30.72todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
p=ptable (EAF)(RF)Kzt
(Eq.30.71)
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Step4:EnterTable30.72todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
p=ptable forh=78ft,FlatRoof
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Step4:EnterTable30.72todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
p=ptable forh=78ft,FlatRoof
Zone
1
54.6
NA
85.7
NA
116.8
NA
37.3
37.5
68.4
37.5
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Step4:EnterTable30.72todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
EAF=0.766(ExposureB,MeanRoofHt.=78)
UselinearinterpolationaspermittedforKz
Part4usesKhforallpressures.EAFvaluescouldbecalculated
foralternateheightsforwindwardpressures,butsinceleeward
pressuresarelargeranyway,thisisnottypicallyneeded.
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Step4:EnterTable30.72todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
RoofJoists
Curtain
Wall
EffectiveArea Effective
=833ft^2
Area=
56ft^2
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Step4:EnterTable30.72todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
RF,ReductionFactors
ForEffectiveWindAreas
RoofJoists
CurtainWall
EffectiveArea=833ft^2
EffectiveArea=56
ft^2
Sign
Pressure
Minus
Plus
NA
NA
NA
Minus
.7
.7
.7
.91
.82
.87
.87
Plus
Zone
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Step4:EnterTable30.72todeterminepressureonwallsandroof,p
CurtainWall
Zone
29.3
46.0
62.6
26.0
43.0
16.0*
16.0*
16.0*
24.9
24.9
Part3,h>60ft:p
28.6
47.2
65.7
27.3
45.8
16.0*
16.0*
16.0*
26.0
26.0
Notethatthesimplifiedmethod
isnotalwaysthemost
conservative.
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
a isnotdefinedinPart4,
however,usezone
dimensionsasinPart3:
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
Part4:Buildings
withh<160ft
KeystoRememberforPart4:
QuicksolutionforExposureC,10sfeffectivewindarea
MustbemodifiedforExposureBorD
Mustbemodifiedforeffectivewindareas>10sf
Maybeusedforallheights< 160ft
Notalwaysthemostconservativemethod lookforerrata
GeneralKeystoRememberforComponents&
Cladding:
ASCE710windloadsarestrengthmethod(0.6WforASD)
UseeffectiveareastoestablishGCp
Recommendusingwallpressuresforroofslopes>450
Mayuse0.42W(=.6*.7)forIBCdeflectionlimits(10yearwinds)
Questions