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12 BY MR. ROSCOW:
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A. Now, you were in pl-Taur ds your group, is it not?
2 A. Yes, sj-r.
3 a. what were the entities or giroups that were in pi-tau?
4 A. At the time-and this is to the best of my
5 reco]lection-it would have been Arpha Gamrna Rho; phi Kappa
6 Tau fraternity; Tau Kappa Epsilon; Delta Gamma sorority; Kappa
Kappa Gamma fraternity, which is of course a sorority; pi
8 Kappa Phi fraternity; Alpha Gamma Rho-r meant my fraternity;
9 Xi Omega sorority. There may-J-that would be my
10 recollection.
11 a. They were all fraternity houses or sorority houses
12 that you/ve just named?
't3 A.That/s correct
14 a. Did each of those fraternity or sorority houses have
15 a member who was a representative at pi-Tau?
16 A. Yes.
17 a. were each one of the representatives members of Blue
1B Key?
19 A. Yes- General-welr, pi-Kap was what/s carled tapped
"i* 20 out at one point; they.didn/t have any. members. so we would
21 have been working with whoever, you know, there-possibly
22 their president. But r don/t know if that was during this
23 ti-mef rame.
24 But generally speaking, yes, they would all have
25 members that were members of Blue Keyi that's correct.
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a. So in the-in your supergiroup of pi--Tau, to the best
2 of your knowledge, there were no members who were not members
3 of Blue Key?
4 A. Wel1, I mean, it's an odd question. Everybody-you-
5 know, everybody within a house would be considered in the-a
6 rnember of the qroup. And naturally all those people were not
7 members of Blue Key at the time.
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9 A. A house is a member; not an individual. I_r was_
10 You know, do you understand what I mean?
11 a. Yes; you were sort of a representative for a house?
12 A. That/s correct.
13 a. so what you had was a large number of fraternity and
11 sorority houses who had banded together into Pi-Tau to further
14 or advance their interests at the University of Florida?
16 A. That/s correct.
17 a. Now, si_r, were there ever other enti-ties who were
18 members of any of these groups, such as the University of
19 Florida marching band?
.*: * ?0 A. Yes, they were for a tirne period from-and I cannot
21 pinpoint whether 1t was during this inci-dent in Lg95. But the
22 band was a member of supergroup for a period of time.
23 a. And was the Black Student Union-was it a rnember of
21 the power group?
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0. And John McGovern,,who just the other day was elected
2 student body president of the University of Florida, he also
3 was an i-ndependent; was he not?
4 A. Was and is, as far as I know.
5 a. Do you know Tony Vu, who was a prior defendant in
6 this suit?
7 A. Yes.
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a. Was Tony Vu an independent?
9 A. Yes, that is correct.
10 a. Do you know Hwanq Vu who has been rnentioned in this
11 suit?
'12 A. Yes.
13 a. Was he also an independent?
14 A. Yes, he and Tony were both Alpha-Delt independents.
15 I beli-eve. I bel-ieve.
16 A. So in various power groups there were as we1l, seeing
17 as we can recount four of them just sitting here, various
1B indi-vi-duals who aren't members of any fraternity or any
':y' 19 sorority?
*:& 20 A. That is correct.
21 a. Or for that matter, dhy type entity that you've
22 described thus far?
23 A. That's correct.
?4 A. Now, who v/ere the people that got together and nade
25 this deal, to your personal knowledge, in the spring of Lg95?
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1 that point.
2 And at that point had decided, and l_et it be known,
3 that I was running for student body president in spring of
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5 a. Who was your runningr mate?
6 A. My vice-president was Bobby Dubose. My treasurer was
Brian Siemienas.
8 A. And how was your vice-president selected?
9 A. He came via Spe-Delt and the Black Student Union. He
10 was-he was a member of Spe-DeJ_t because of his fraterni-ty;
11 not because of the Black Student Union.
12 0. Did-ny question, though, is how did you-how was
13 he selected to work with you?
14 A. He was selected by that group. we worked with thern
15 just like we worked lsith Mayor/s council and Family Housj-ng
16 and other org,anizations to put together a slate to win.
17 And we had either the highest or second highest
18 percentage of votes ever, depending on how you l_ook at it.
19 a- You had not been selected by a power group before you
*., 20 announced, had you, sir?
21 A. That/s correct. I mean, f had this-f had support
22 within ny group at the time r determined r was going to run.
23 But the-I was runninq regardless, as we discussed before.
24 a. Okay. So you made the decision, and p6l-ne one in
25 any power group named you to any-anything here?
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A. For student body president, you mean?
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a. Yeah.
3 A. (No response. )
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o. The decj_sion_not some power group
making any
5 deci_sion.
6 A. Riqht.
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a' you had not been selected by a house
system before
8 you announced, had you?
9 A' No' r mean, before r._-by the
time we declared and
10 threw out the T-shirts, r had gained
the support of numerous
11 houses and individuals.
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But at the time that r made the
determination to run,
13 which was during my term as treasurer,
no.
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0. Okay. And you had not been supported
by any
15 supergroup or any of these groups
you/ve described to us
16 before you announced your selection-or
your candi.dacy?
17 A' wer-l, by the time that r announced
officially and
1B threw out the T-shirtsr w€ had-we
had support from ar_r the
19 dj-f f erent f actors of campus.
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But determined-when r determined
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to run wh11e r was
21 student body treasurer, that was
a deterrnination that r made
22 with Mr- siemi-enas and fraternity
brothers and friend and
23 people in other houses, sone of
which would have been in
24 groups and some of whi-ch wouldn/t
have been.
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a. Now, did you put together a group
or body of
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